Pennod 4 Bethan Gwanas: Y Menopos a Fi


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-Yes, this is a series

-about the menopause.

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-Don't you dare change the channel!

-It affects us all.

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-Yes, men too.

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-I'm 53 now.

-I should be prepared for it.

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-But I don't have a clue

-what to expect.

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-I'm determined to learn more.

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-From women's experiences...

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-You don't need the pill

-or anything else. Just enjoy life.

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-..the treatments available...

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-Some men don't want to know.

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-They don't know

-about their wives' symptoms.

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-..and how older women

-worldwide deal with it.

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-I felt I was going nuts at times.

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-This thing,

-the change, the menopause.

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-Don't put that in!

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-Don't put that in!

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-I can't say it!

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-Whatever you call it,

-I'm going to understand it.

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-We know that

-the menopause is the time...

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-..when women's periods

-and childbearing years end.

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-We've heard about symptoms,

-like sweating and hot flushes.

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-But there's one subject

-we haven't touched yet.

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-What do we all want to know?

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-How does the menopause affect sex?

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-Sex.

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-Right!

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-That's enough, stop that.

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-The menopause can cause

-problems in our sex lives.

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-Sex is painful

-for about 80% of menopausal women.

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-But to cheer us up...

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-..after the menopause, some women

-say that sex is better than ever.

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-They don't need contraception.

-They know they're not pregnant.

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-Maybe the relief makes them

-feel they want more sex.

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-There's no physiological reason

-that makes women want more sex.

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-But the skin in the uterus

-and round the clitoris changes.

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-It's much more sensitive,

-so pleasure can be greater.

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-Maybe that drive

-and having more pleasure from sex...

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-..can increase

-women's desire for sex.

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-What about our women's experiences?

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-From my experience, maybe sex

-is better after the menopause.

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-You're free and don't have

-to worry about anything.

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-You don't need the pill or anything

-else. No trimmings, just enjoy life.

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-Once your body is back

-working as it should...

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-..it seems to go into overdrive...

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-..if you know what I mean.

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-Er...

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-..I can't say it!

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-I was going to say

-that KY jelly is out of it!

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-I look forward. I hope I find a man.

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-I'm not quite at the end yet.

-It's something to look forward to.

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-It was great before.

-I hope it'll be better afterwards.

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-It is a positive aspect.

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-We have to think

-about it positively.

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-We should look at it

-as a liberating process.

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-It does have plus points.

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-I don't think there's a difference.

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-No.

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-Maybe you lose interest a little.

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-Different.

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-Maybe different is a better word.

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-Maybe you don't feel

-sexual desire...

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-..in the same way

-you did when you were young.

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-That's natural.

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-Maybe you enjoy the experience

-in the same way...

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-..but the desire isn't there

-as it was in your youth.

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-Of course, the effect

-of the menopause on sex...

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-..is different for everyone.

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-But help is available

-for women who have bad symptoms...

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-..like painful sex, feeling

-depressed or fluctuating moods...

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-..or just don't want sex.

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-Doctors are aware of these problems.

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-The main thing is to shatter

-the taboo and not feel embarrassed.

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-It's very important

-for us women to enjoy sex.

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-Very often, people don't think

-about what is out there...

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-..that can help the enjoyment...

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-..especially when

-one is rather "dry".

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-There is a great variety

-of lubricants available.

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-They make a great difference

-to one's sex life.

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-They make sex more enjoyable...

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-..and take away the pain

-for some women.

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-So there's no need to suffer.

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-After the menopause, there can be

-some unexpected sex-related issues.

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-More older women go to sexually

-transmitted disease clinics.

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-It's very interesting

-to hear older women's stories...

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-..at sexually transmitted

-disease clinics.

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-They found themselves in situations

-where they had unprotected sex...

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-..and were shocked to hear they had

-a sexually transmitted disease.

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-Post-menopausal women aren't going

-to think about sexual disease.

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-They don't think

-about using condoms either.

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-In the STD clinics...

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-..we see more

-post-menopausal women...

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-..because they didn't think

-they were at risk.

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-They also tend to go

-with younger men...

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-..and as result, dip into the pool

-of sexually transmitted disease.

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-We've found that the risk of HIV is

-higher for post-menopausal women...

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-..because the vagina has changed.

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-The skin is thinner and the virus

-is more likely to enter the body...

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-..when practising unsafe sex.

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-But it's a fact

-that older women have sex.

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-We have to make sure

-they get the best care available.

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-Pupils are taught about

-sex and diseases in schools.

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-But should they also

-be taught about the menopause?

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-We don't do Biology

-in the Sixth Form.

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-We don't hear about it in the lower

-years. It might be important.

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-It is. Every woman will

-have it at some time in life.

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-We have to learn about these things.

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-It'd be useful to know.

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-Obviously, a mother

-or grandmother goes through it.

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-We should understand

-what's going on.

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-We should be educated

-about it at home too.

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-Maybe Mam should tell me

-about it, when I'm older.

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-Maybe it isn't as important

-for us at our age.

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-They teach things

-that are relevant to us.

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-If we were taught about it now,

-people might worry.

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-It won't happen for some time.

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-It'd be nice if it was

-on the curriculum.

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-Women could go to schools to discuss

-it and explain what happens.

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-This is what your mothers

-or grandmothers are experiencing.

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-Children could discuss it openly.

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-When teaching about the body and

-the differences between the sexes...

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-..it's important to discuss

-the changes that occur...

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-..at different ages.

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-I certainly wouldn't oppose teaching

-young people about these changes.

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-But I don't think

-they'd be very interested.

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-It isn't relevant

-to them at their age.

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-Because it's a process,

-not an event...

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-..it can be very difficult to

-discuss and give precise details...

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-..about how something will be.

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-It's an individual

-experience in many ways.

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-I can understand why the menopause

-isn't given as much attention...

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-..compared to much more

-specific events in women's lives.

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-I'd like to ask a question.

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-If we go through the menopause...

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-..do animals go through it?

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-Oh! Good question.

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-From my research,

-only three kinds of animals...

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-..go through what

-we'd recognize as the menopause.

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-We, human women...

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-..pilot whales...

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-..and orcas.

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-There might be more, of course.

-Not enough research has been done.

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-Most mammals die soon after

-losing the ability to reproduce.

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-But whales, as we do, live for

-many years after losing fertility.

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-Why?

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-No-one is sure.

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-We could dedicate

-a whole programme just to whales.

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-We'll return to the human

-race after the adverts...

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-..and discuss

-early menopause and men.

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-Most people know that men can

-produce children all their lives.

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-They create sperm all their lives.

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-But women are born

-with all the eggs in the body.

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-They can't create any more.

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-A time comes when

-there are no more eggs.

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-That is the menopause.

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-Older people get it, don't they?

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-It'll make you ill, dizzy and weak.

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-You're hot and you sweat.

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-It's gross. I suffered

-for 18 months without medication.

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-In the end, I had to have it.

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-Mam's going through it

-and she's suffering.

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-I'm dreading it.

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-You know you're getting old

-when things like that stop.

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-No more children, nothing.

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-It's scary.

-I'm frightened of being old.

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-It's never-ending.

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-I know 60-year-olds who are

-still going through the menopause.

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-When did it happen to you?

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-I was young. I was 39.

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-I knew what it was.

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-The doctors didn't believe me

-because I was so young.

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-They sent me to have a blood test,

-and that's what it was.

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-I was shocked.

-I'd never heard about it.

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-My 42-year-old daughter

-is going through it.

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-It's assumed the menopause...

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-..happens to women in their

-late forties, early fifties.

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-There are a number of reasons

-why it can happen much earlier.

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-Some women are very young...

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-..when their ovaries

-stop producing hormones.

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-There's usually no explanation.

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-Chemotherapy and radiotherapy

-can damage the ovaries...

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-..and bring on an early menopause.

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-Ovaries can heal.

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-A woman's age and

-levels of cancer treatments...

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-..can cause permanent damage.

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-A hysterectomy

-can bring on the menopause.

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-Once the ovaries are removed...

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-..the menopause will start

-regardless of how old you are.

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-You will be offered HRT

-to relieve the symptoms.

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-Young women can have menopausal

-symptoms for no apparent reason.

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-They're too young to suspect

-what's happening to them.

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-Sian Jones is 56.

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-She suffered menopausal symptoms

-in her early thirties.

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-I wasn't aware that I was

-going through the menopause.

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-There's no starting point.

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-I felt different.

-I couldn't talk to anyone about it.

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-I didn't know if it

-was the menopause...

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-..or if I had a serious illness.

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-Some people describe the menopause

-as a terrible illness.

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-I wasn't sure

-what the symptoms were.

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-I didn't understand them

-and didn't know who to turn to.

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-It started

-when I was in my thirties.

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-I desperately wanted a child.

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-The doctor said

-that due to different factors...

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-..it was unlikely I'd have a child.

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-An early menopause wasn't mentioned.

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-To be honest...

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-..all I registered

-was not being able to have children.

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-Menopausal symptoms

-were responsible.

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-It was the early menopause.

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-I felt depressed...

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-..and worthless.

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-I was alternately hot and cold.

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-I felt like crying...

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-..if someone was nice to me

-or horrible to me.

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-Everything was too much.

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-Happily, and almost miraculously...

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-..Sian became pregnant

-and gave birth to Lisa.

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-Anyone can become pregnant

-during the menopause.

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-It's only after it's over

-that a woman is infertile.

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-The symptoms returned

-quite soon for Sian.

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-After I had Lisa...

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-..I began having more symptoms.

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-It affected my eyes, too.

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-When Lisa went through school...

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-..and become a woman herself...

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-..my menopausal symptoms worsened.

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-If I wanted to put

-a cup on the table...

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-..I couldn't see where it should go.

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-I was confused.

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-I knew something serious

-was going on.

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-The last time I saw my doctor...

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-..he explained perhaps

-it was menopausal symptoms.

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-Everything was clear

-and I felt much better.

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-After years of suffering symptoms...

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-..I want to talk about it.

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-There is an end to it.

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-It gets better. There was a time

-when I felt it would never end.

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-We failed to get a single man

-to appear on the series.

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-We've chatted to a few

-on the street.

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-No-one agreed to be interviewed.

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-It affects them, too.

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-The woman, or women in their lives,

-are going through a major change.

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-Most of us carry on

-without too much trouble.

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-It doesn't affect our partners.

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-Men are not ready to discuss...

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-..women having hot flushes

-and going through the menopause...

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-..in the workplace.

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-We should be able to do that.

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-In fairness,

-my husband has been supportive.

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-He understood

-what I was going through.

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-But in general,

-men don't want to know.

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-They don't know anything about it,

-or about our symptoms.

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-I often think

-if a man had to go through this...

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-..there would be menopause clubs

-in every city and village.

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-There would be a parliamentary

-debate. Something would be done.

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-Men would get together

-to compare symptoms.

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-It would be like a cycling club

-for men in lycra.

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-These menopausal men...

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-..would have special caps...

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-...and say,

-"My hot flush lasted seven minutes!"

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-Men can't cope with pain or change.

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-If men gave birth...

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-..they'd only have one child.

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-"Seven minutes!"

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-Men don't understand the menopause.

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-Having said that...

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-..I'm sure men go through

-the menopause in their own way.

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-I often think my male colleagues

-are going through the menopause.

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-I'm sure there's a male menopause.

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-I reckon my husband went through it.

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-Men have a midlife crisis.

-Women do, too, but it's mostly men.

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-They might buy a sports car.

-Younger model and all this palaver.

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-I'm sure it's their menopause.

-But they get away with it.

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-They go out to the shed. That's

-where their menopause takes place.

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-They become fussier.

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-That's what it is. They get on my

-nerves because they fuss so much.

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-"Ah, mid-life crisis.

-He'll calm down."

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-Is there such a thing

-as the male menopause?

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-Right!

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-I don't know.

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-It's not the same.

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-Testosterone is a male hormone.

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-It lowers gradually.

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-It's later for men.

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-Men can have children

-in their seventies...

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-..for instance Charlie Chaplin.

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-It happens later...

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-..and more gradually.

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-Perhaps men feel it, and that there

-are psychological side-effects.

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-They want to buy fast cars.

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-It's more to do

-with their day to day lives...

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-..than a sudden hormonal change.

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-The testosterone level

-doesn't take a dive.

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-No.

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-Right. It's all up here.

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-Right. It's all up here.

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-For men?!

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-After middle age...

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-..physical strength

-begins to decline.

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-People have reached

-the pinnacle of their careers.

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-They see youngsters overtaking them.

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-This is the time when men

-take stock of their lives.

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-They look at their achievements...

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-..and feel

-that their time is running out.

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-It's the same sort of feeling,

-of being past one's best.

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-This can lead

-to a mid-life crisis.

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-Perhaps they'll behave in

-a manner that's out of character.

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-It's important to look

-at men's experiences...

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-..how they grow old or how

-they feel society is treating them.

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-No, it isn't the same menopause

-that women go through.

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-It's a time of reflection

-and change.

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-I've enjoyed doing the series.

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-I had no idea at first.

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-It scares me how little I knew...

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-..and how little

-everyone I met knew.

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-The main thing I'll remember is...

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-..that there's no need

-to worry about the menopause.

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-I can say with honesty...

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-..that I'm looking forward

-to life after the menopause.

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