Episode 4 Close Calls: On Camera


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A close call, a moment of danger. LOUD BANG

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-When life can hang in the balance.

-Oh, my God.

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A split second, where the outcome could go either way.

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If he's alive, it's going to be a miracle, really.

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The difference between disaster and survival.

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He was shouting, "Don't die, Mummy!"

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These are the people who have been there and lived to tell the tale.

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SPECTATORS GASP AND SHOUT

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I thought he'd broken his neck.

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Their instincts and resources coupled with

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the quick thinking of others helped to pull them through.

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We were just engulfed in flames.

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And their dramatic experiences were recorded on camera.

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I wasn't going to be coming up. It was curtains, it was over.

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It's a day they'll never forget,

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the day they had a close call.

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Today on Close Calls...

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a mother and child cling to each other on a sheer rock face.

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Adventurous nine-year-old Sam

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has climbed up more than 40 feet and got stuck.

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His desperate mum's impulsive response

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is to claw her way up to reach him.

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She has, but now she has another major problem.

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I looked down, pretty quickly, really, I'd worked out,

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that there was no way I could get Sam down the rocks.

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She said, "We can't get down, we just can't get down."

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Also today, two of the army's top parachutists

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are locked in a desperate struggle

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when a stunt goes horribly wrong at a public display.

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As I hit Wayne, one side of the parachute went round his arm

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and the other bit went round his leg

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and it collapsed that side of the parachute.

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The elite Red Devils have become entangled.

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Now one must hold on to the other as they plummet towards the ground.

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Westcombe Beach, south Devon.

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A mum cradles her terrified young son in her arms.

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They're clinging to a sheer rock face with no way down.

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Mum of two Kate has scaled the vertical rock

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to try and rescue her stranded nine-year-old son Sam.

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I knew I had to get up to him.

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I just needed to be there with him up on the cliff.

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Now they are both perched on a tiny ledge more than 40 feet up.

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This picture is taken by horrified husband and dad Rich,

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watching from below.

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She just said, "There is no way we can get down,

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"there's absolutely no chance.

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"I'm not doing it, I can't do it with Sam.

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"We need some help to get down."

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Kate and her husband Rich live with their two children in West Yorkshire.

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The whole family love the great outdoors,

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none more so than young Sam.

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Sam's always been extremely adventurous.

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He's never happier than when he's outdoors.

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Inside, he's a bit of a caged animal,

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whereas if you get him outside, he's just in his element.

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From an early age,

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both Sam and his six-year-old sister Cleo have enjoyed climbing.

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The whole family do.

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They regularly go to the local sports centre

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to use the indoor climbing wall, but Sam much prefers the open air.

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I like free climbing.

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I don't like it so much when I'm on the walls

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and I'm in a harness and I'm inside.

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He climbs trees and he climbs the bank.

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It's the summer holidays

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and the family are down in Devon for a week, visiting Kate's mum, Jenny.

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On the first day of their trip, a sunny Saturday,

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they head for a remote beach.

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We drove down to Westcombe on the coast

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and the children were really excited.

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Sam and Cleo were playing quite happily on the beach

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with their granny,

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so me and Kate just decided to go up onto one of the cliff tops.

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Sam and Cleo and Gran go for a walk too,

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but soon Sam's adventurous instincts take over.

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Our granny was looking after us

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and basically Sam wanted to explore the rocks.

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And I just went sort of ahead and then when I got to the rock,

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I was quite excited - "That looks good, I'll go and climb that."

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Far ahead of Cleo and gran Jenny, Sam has found a rock formation

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known as a stack, a column of rock rising from the ground.

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This one at Westcombe Beach towers 60 feet into the air.

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Sam can't resist climbing up.

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The rocks were very loose

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and, like, I was quite lucky that I didn't fall,

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cos I always had to find a stable place every time I stepped.

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Sam's enjoying the challenge and has no thoughts of stopping.

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But this is no climbing wall and there are no safety ropes.

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He climbs higher and higher, but he soon realises he's gone too far.

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I sort of looked down and I thought,

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"Oh, I can't get down.

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"There'll probably be another route down."

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But there isn't. The stack tapers inwards below him.

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It may have been fun to climb up,

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but it's impossible for nine-year-old Sam to climb back down safely.

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I was sort of scared of how high I was.

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Then I sort of shouted help.

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But on the isolated beach, his cries go unnoticed,

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until six-year-old Cleo and gran Jenny catch up

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and hear him calling for help.

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We looked up and up and up

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and then there he was, sitting on a ledge.

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My grandma said, "I'll go and get Mum and Dad."

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Kate and Rich are just returning to the beach from their clifftop walk.

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My mum and Cleo were sort of running back towards us

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and I knew that there was something wrong.

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I said that he was up the rock and he's shouting help and crying.

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As soon as we got round the corner,

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we were both a bit puzzled, cos it was like, "OK, well, where is he?"

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And it took me a good 30 seconds to realise

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that I basically had to look straight up to see him,

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he was so high.

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Kate is horrified to see her young son

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precariously perched on a narrow ledge.

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He's 40 feet up and absolutely petrified.

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I was worried that he might panic and fall

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and I just didn't want to see him frightened.

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Before Rich can stop her, Kate's motherly instincts take over.

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In a heartbeat, she begins scaling the rock face to try and reach Sam.

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I knew I had to get up to him.

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I just needed to be there with him up on the cliff.

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Rich tries to find a more accessible path.

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I sort of went round the base of the stack

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to see if there was a safer way up

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and that's when I realised there was no alternative.

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This was the only way to go up.

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By the time he came back round the corner,

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he realised and I realised

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that there was no way I could come down from where I was.

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To Rich's horror, his wife is now in just as much danger as Sam.

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My concern in that moment switched to Kate,

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cos I knew Sam was there on a ledge,

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but I knew she was going to try and climb up to him

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and that she wasn't safe at all.

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Compelled by the cries of her distraught son,

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Kate keeps climbing up and up.

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I got to a point where I felt like I was stuck,

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because I'd got pretty high, Sam was very close to me,

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but I couldn't quite see him, there was an overhang

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sticking out in the rock.

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And I just thought, "Where is she?" I could just see a drop.

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I hoped that she hadn't fallen.

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He got really, really upset at that point, when I got stuck.

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-He was beside himself.

-He was shouting to Mum...

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.."Don't die, Mummy!"

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And that combined with Rich and my mum and Cleo on the beach

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screaming at me not to go any higher...

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..was quite overwhelming and I think that's why I became...

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I sort of froze and became quite scared at that point.

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But it's too late to turn back.

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From where I was standing underneath,

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I could just see both her legs were just shaking,

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which is obviously very dangerous.

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If you're climbing, you have to be very sure-footed.

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She'd got no ropes on,

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so at that point, I was really starting to panic.

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I did get really frightened and I felt foolish.

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I felt like I'd made a mistake, because I've got two children

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and now I was putting my own life at risk as well.

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Although she's shaking, Kate's still desperate to reach her son.

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She looks for a way of pulling herself around an overhanging rock

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and up onto the ledge where Sam is perched.

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"Don't fall, don't fall and kill yourself."

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I just... Cos I just...

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Cos she said to me, "I'm not on a stable ledge."

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It was a bit of mind over matter. I said to Sam,

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"Sweetheart, I'm going to be OK,

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"but do you think you could be quiet for a moment

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"while Mummy concentrates on getting up the last bit to you,

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"then we'll be together and it'll be OK?"

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She had to say, "Shush, Sam, shush!"

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He was really good. He went completely quiet then.

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Kate needs to keep cool.

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One wrong move and it's a 40-foot drop onto solid rock.

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I thought, "If I get this wrong and I fall, it'll probably kill me,"

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cos I knew that it was much higher than I'd ever climbed before.

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Kate blindly feels for the rocks above with one hand,

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hoping to find something strong enough to grasp hold of.

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I managed to reach up and find some tufts of grass just over the rock

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that was sticking out and I, um...

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was testing them to see if they'd take my weight.

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Once I'd found what I thought was going to be

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the best handholds I was going to get,

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I just pulled myself round the rock and luckily...

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that grass was strong enough to take my weight

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and I did get over and round the top, then got up to him.

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Kate can finally comfort her child.

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Richard's photo from the beach shows the staggering height

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the pair have climbed.

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Kate pulls Sam in for a cuddle.

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There was enough space for us

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to sit on a ledge with our backs pushed right up against the rocks.

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Sort of clinging on,

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to know that we weren't going to fall immediately, at least,

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and I just had on overwhelming sense of relief and I was just so happy

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to be there with him after seeing him stuck up there on his own.

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Later...

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a Royal Navy team attempt to rescue Kate and Sam.

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It was immediately apparent that we needed to winch them off.

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But their hazardous location and the helicopter's downdraft

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makes their position even more precarious.

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The wind was so powerful and my mum was just holding on to me.

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Whitehaven, Cumbria.

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The British Army's parachute display team, the Red Devils,

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are performing at a local air show.

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Spectators' cameras are rolling.

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Suddenly, drama in the skies above -

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team members Mike French and Wayne Shorthouse have become entangled.

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Mike's parachute is wrapped around Wayne's body.

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They are descending much faster than they should.

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The crowd below realise the danger.

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The two paratroopers are fighting to free themselves.

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It's a race against time.

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They are 1,700 feet up, but less than a minute from the ground.

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Corporal Mike French was born with paratrooper blood.

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His father and uncle were both in a Parachute Regiment,

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so when he left school, Mike headed straight for the army.

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I joined the Parachute Regiment when I was just under 17,

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did Kosovo when I first joined the battalion at 18,

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Northern Ireland a few times, Iraq twice, Afghanistan twice.

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Mike is now a member of the Red Devils parachute display team

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and has over 1,800 jumps under his belt.

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To the average person, the thought of jumping out of a plane

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might seem terrifying, but Mike absolutely thrives on the rush.

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There's no better feeling

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than falling through the sky at that speed.

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It's more a strange excitement more than anything else.

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It's that little... It's the reason we do this job.

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Guys wouldn't do it if it was boring.

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I think we'd go find something else to do.

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Mike's pal and fellow Red Devil Corporal Wayne Shorthouse

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has served alongside him in conflict zones.

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He also loves the thrill of falling through the air.

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It's the adrenaline rush, really.

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You're jumping into different arenas, different sizes

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and it presents all these new challenges.

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Mike and Wayne are both proud of being part of the Red Devils,

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the group of 12 elite soldiers drawn from the Parachute Regiment.

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Their main goal is to promote the army and help with recruitment.

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We do up to 50 displays every year round the country

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and some abroad as well.

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There's a lot of postings we can do within the army

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and this is probably one of the most fun.

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It's a great job, absolutely love it.

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Mike and Wayne have been performing together in the Red Devils

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for the last five years.

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One of their most spectacular stunts

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is a highly skilled canopy formation called a stack.

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Two of us on top of each other

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and then we split to a formation called a bi-hand,

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where we'll be on top of each other, then both of us be side by side.

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It essentially puts our two parachutes next to each other,

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attached at the waist, so as we're flying through the sky,

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if we each pull down on our outside toggles,

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the parachutes turn away from each other

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and we'll dive towards the earth.

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Mike's role in the team is stack pilot,

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meaning he's in charge of coordinating stunts during a jump.

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Display parachuting...

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Well, skydiving in general is very dangerous, but display parachuting

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and especially the canopy formations -

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one of the most dangerous sports you can do, really.

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A lot can go wrong and sometimes it does go wrong.

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Today, the Red Devils are at Whitehaven Air Show

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in the Lake District.

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It's an overcast day,

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so the team will be jumping from below the clouds.

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Spectators round the harbour are watching and filming the display.

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The plan is for the team of six jumpers to land in the water.

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The ground crew, photographed here,

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will use red flares to help guide them in.

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2,500 feet above, the team leader is the first to leave the plane.

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Now it's Mike and Wayne's turn to jump, one after the other.

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Mike was going to be the stack pilot,

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which means he was going to be going second and I went first,

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so I exited the aircraft, then Mike exited straight after me.

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They reach speeds of 120mph as they freefall through the sky.

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Within seconds, Mike and Wayne deploy their parachutes.

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Both men also have a reserve chute in case of problems,

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but for now, everything is going according to plan.

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This spectator's footage shows the beginning of the planned stunt.

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Mike's on the left and Wayne's on the right.

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Mike flies towards Wayne.

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They're aiming for a controlled collision.

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I get a bit lower, get down to where he is

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and I hit my parachute into his back.

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I can actually grab hold of it

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and I'm going to pull myself down into his lines.

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They've done this countless times before, but this time...

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something goes drastically wrong.

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As I hit Wayne, one side of the parachute went round his arm,

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the other bit went round his leg

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and it collapsed that side of the parachute

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so then there was just one side of the parachute open.

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Then eventually that came round and wrapped round him

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and we were completely entangled.

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They've got just 55 seconds before they hit the ground.

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In the 50-year history of the Red Devils,

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there's never been a situation like this during a display.

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CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKS

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Photographer Peter King is in the crowd,

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capturing the drama above through his zoom lens.

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His pictures show the seriousness of the situation.

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Mike's parachute is wrapped around Wayne and they are falling fast.

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The guys actually caught each other in the air.

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The crowd started to notice,

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there was almost a ripple through the crowd.

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-CROWD MEMBER:

-Oh, no!

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But we could see guys with legs swinging.

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One guy was quite clearly hanging off the other.

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Also watching from below is Red Devils team member

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Lance Corporal Ian Cain, part of the ground team today.

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There is a moment where you suddenly go,

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"Oh, dear, this hasn't gone quite right.

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"How are they going to deal with it?"

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At first, the adrenaline starts to pump through your body,

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so the first thing you do is stop, take a deep breath

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and just assess what's actually going on.

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It's happening very quickly.

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They are both trying to keep a cool head.

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Wayne needs to untangle himself from the chute so it can open fully.

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If they can separate quickly,

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they've still got time to land safely in the water below.

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I actually initially saw it round his arm and thought,

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"That's all right, he'll get that off in a minute."

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Looked around and then the next time I looked up,

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it was back round him again.

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Wayne is fighting to separate them, but because of Mike's weight,

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the parachute cords are wrapped too tight across his body and he can't.

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I thought, "We'll give him a couple of hundred feet to get it off"

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and then at that point, I'm shouting out,

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"OK, Wayne, just keep hold of me."

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They have one other option.

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Mike could sever the cords of his collapsed main parachute

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using a safety knife and activate his emergency reserve chute.

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But as they plummet towards the earth, there's a huge problem.

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We couldn't precisely tell you how high we were off the ground.

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If I come away, my parachute may not have time to open.

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We thought, instead of cutting away,

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it'd be a safer option for us to land together.

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It's a game changer -

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they've gone from struggling to break apart

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to now desperately trying to stay together.

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Mike's only hope is that Wayne can hang on to him

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and bring them both down using his canopy.

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I could see the top guy, Wayne, kicking his legs

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and I could see that he was trying to catch the parachute.

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My concern was, "I hope they are locked off,

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"I hope he has got him and he's not going

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"to suddenly fall away from him, cos then things would be bad."

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But Wayne's view of the ground is obstructed by Mike's collapsed chute.

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Wayne has to steer while Mike shouts up directions.

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In just 20 seconds, they'll touch down.

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Instinct and experience kick in.

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Me and Wayne have known each other

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and worked with each other for years,

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so we know each other better than we know ourselves, really.

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Mike could actually see what was actually going on above me,

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cos my view was quite restricted.

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I'm shouting up directions

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and Wayne's pretty blindly pulling down on different toggles and risers

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to turn us into that arena.

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On the ground,

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the other Red Devils are landing in the harbour as planned.

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But photographer Peter is concerned Mike and Wayne are way off course.

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We started to get a sense of how quickly they were going past us.

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This shot shows the boys coming in some distance from the landing zone,

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the other side of the harbour wall.

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That's when I thought they would have been in trouble,

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because the harbour on the other side,

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it's got a lot more of the more industrial ships,

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a lot of masts, a lot of ropes.

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But Wayne and Mike must land in the water.

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Their rate of descent is too quick to hit the ground.

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A safety recce the day before

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had identified the far side of the harbour as an emergency alternative.

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They aim for it.

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Mike was saying to me, "We've got to steer to the left,"

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I would steer to the left,

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and we saw that we had a safer landing area,

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so we took that option.

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But landing isn't their only fear.

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When they hit the water, there's a real danger Wayne,

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still tangled in the parachute cords, could be dragged under.

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Mike might now need to rescue his mate.

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I'm covering my cut-away handle and keeping an eye on Wayne.

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As soon as I hit the water, I actually cut my main away.

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If the lines were actually wrapped around his arms, his legs,

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then he'd have gone down.

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CROWD APPLAUDS

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I swam over to him.

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I just saw his big grinning head sticking out the water.

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It was all fine. There was a boat there waiting for us,

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cos we have a boat for every parachutist in the water,

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so those guys are pretty much shadowing us as we're coming down,

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but, yeah, the crowd, I think they enjoyed the show.

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Photographer Peter and the rest of the crowd are happy to see

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the two men safe on the recovery boat.

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As they came round the corner, you could feel a little bit of relief,

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a little bit of a lift, a lot of applause, a lot of shouting.

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The guys were obviously happy and waving

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and everything seemed all right.

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Oh, well, I was relieved, I was happy,

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and I thought, "Yeah, I can't wait to see them."

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It was as close as you'd want it to be on a display.

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There's no getting away from that - it didn't go right.

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Local Cumbrian Mike has chosen the unluckiest of days

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to bring his family along to watch.

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The first thing was when we got out of the water

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and my parents were stood there.

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My mum was a little bit worried, she wasn't too keen on the idea,

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but my dad's ex-Parachute Regiment,

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my uncle's ex-Parachute Regiment, so they...

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Yeah, they just called me an idiot and had a bit of a laugh.

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Mike and Wayne have so much faith in each other that,

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for them, it's just been another day at the office

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and undeterred, just two days later, as this picture shows,

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they're up in the sky again, doing what they do best.

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A similar display, but I was on the bottom this time.

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So...it was quite nerve-racking to start with,

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but just good to get back in the air to do it again.

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Those guys are super-cool, aren't they?

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Now, we all know that boys will be boys,

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but here's one whose taste for adventure got him

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and his mum into real trouble.

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Back to Westcombe Beach, south Devon,

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where Kate has climbed more than 40 feet up a vertical rock stack

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to reach her stranded nine-year-old son Sam.

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The adventurous youngster loves to climb,

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but this time, he's gone too far.

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On the beach below, the rest of the family are holding their breath.

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I looked down and they were obviously waiting to hear

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what I had to say, so I said...

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Pretty quickly, really,

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I'd worked out that there was no way I could get Sam down the rocks.

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She said, "We can't get down. We just can't get down."

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So that's when I said to Kate's mum I'd go off inland

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and try and get some help.

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But it's no easy matter.

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There's no phone signal on the isolated beach.

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His car is parked over half a mile away

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and the nearest village is a five-minute drive.

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I started driving towards the village

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and kept stopping, kept stopping - still no signal.

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I started knocking on doors, knocked on two or three doors

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and no-one was there.

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Then I saw this man with his child in a garden and just said,

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"I need to ring the emergency services.

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"My phone's not working - can I borrow your phone?"

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That's when I rang the police, got back in the car,

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shot back down to the beach.

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Kate and Sam have now been huddled together on the rock face for an hour

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when finally, help begins to arrive.

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Fairly soon after he got back, the coastguards arrived.

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They came really quickly.

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They turn up equipped to climb,

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but once they see the pair's location,

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they call in the Royal Navy helicopter for Culdrose in Cornwall,

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60 miles away.

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Pilot Mike Luscombe and his crew are there in 30 minutes.

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We got told there were two people stuck on a cliff,

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so what we will always do is get there as quickly as we can

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and then assess the situation.

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As they arrive, Rich takes a photo of the coastguard

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guiding the helicopter in with a flare.

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Mike and his crew can't quite believe what they find.

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Our first impression as a crew was,

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"How on earth did they get up there?"

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It was just a really unusual place to find somebody.

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It was immediately apparent

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that we were going to need to winch them off.

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The trouble, of course,

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is that if we just come straight over the top, our downwash -

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there's nine tonnes or so of helicopter -

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the downwash from that could possibly have dislodged them.

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The power of the helicopter's rotor blades

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is like a gale-force wind directly downwards over Kate and Sam's heads.

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They're hanging on for dear life.

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The wind was so powerful and my mum was just holding on to me.

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It really did feel like it was going to blow us off the rock.

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Actually, that turned out to be very frightening again.

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The plan is to lower a winchman onto the rock stack

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to pluck Kate and Sam to safety.

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I stood off to the side, we put our crewman down at a similar height

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to where the people were, but around the other side of the rock stack.

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I traversed the helicopter sideways to where he needed to be,

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then he did a Spider-Man impression

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and basically scampered round the side

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and grabbed hold of them.

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Down on the beach, Rich films on his mobile phone

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as the winchman reaches his wife and son.

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Because there were two of them and because the beach was right there

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at the bottom, we decided the best and the quickest way

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of doing the rescue would be to put them both in the strop

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with our crewman still there,

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so we had all three of them on the end of the wire,

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lift them from the rock stack,

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traverse 40-50 feet, whatever it was,

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and then gently let them down onto the beach.

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Yeah, that was very emotional, that moment.

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The actual rescue, in a way,

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was more emotional than having them on the cliff,

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because I think that's when I realised

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how serious the situation had become.

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You're just seeing your wife and your child

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being rescued from a rock where they're in a huge amount of danger,

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or they could have been potentially in a massive amount of danger.

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Finally, after two and a half hours of being stuck on the tiny ledge,

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Kate and Sam are lowered onto the beach.

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We were so relieved and happy to see Cleo and my mum

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and Rich on the beach and we definitely had a big cuddle.

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But Sam was jumping about.

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He was really relieved that he'd went on a helicopter.

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Sam may have enjoyed the journey down,

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but it's the journey up that his mum and dad want to discuss with him.

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We said we needed to make some clear rules in the future.

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I said that I didn't want to stop him climbing,

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but he needed to ask every time

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and, actually, we stayed in Devon for the rest of the week

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and he was very good - every time he wanted to climb something,

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he asked me and we generally went up together.

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It's an experience the whole family will never forget.

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There could have been a very different outcome

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if Kate hadn't risked her own life to reach her son.

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With all these things, it's only with hindsight

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you realise how dangerous it is. Sam could have killed himself,

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she could have killed herself climbing up.

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And if it wasn't for her being that brave, he would have been...

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Oh, it could have been a lot, lot worse.

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She just...

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She was a hero and she climbed up.

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I felt really lucky, because everything worked out

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and I didn't fall.

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Yeah, we were very lucky

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and very glad that things worked out the way they did.

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The lengths and heights a mum will go to for their child.

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Join us next time for more close calls.

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