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-From art... -To antiques. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
Ceramics to signs. | 0:00:04 | 0:00:06 | |
-Taxidermy... -To toys. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:08 | |
-From the common... -To the curious. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:11 | |
We're a nation of collectors. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:14 | |
Follow me, Mel Giedroyc... | 0:00:15 | 0:00:17 | |
And me, antiques expert and lifelong collector, Mark Hill... | 0:00:17 | 0:00:21 | |
..As we go behind closed doors to uncover Britain's secret collections. | 0:00:21 | 0:00:26 | |
And reveal what they're really worth, with surprising results. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:31 | |
Collecting and curating. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:33 | |
Selling and displaying. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:35 | |
-For collectaholics everywhere... -We're here to help. | 0:00:35 | 0:00:38 | |
-Oh, good God! -'On Collectaholics, | 0:00:49 | 0:00:51 | |
'we'll be delving into the extraordinary collections that have taken over people's lives.' | 0:00:51 | 0:00:56 | |
I've never seen so many signs. | 0:00:56 | 0:00:59 | |
'Swallowing up their space and using up their income.' | 0:00:59 | 0:01:02 | |
-What's the most expensive piece you've bought? -It'd be sort of £8,000 to £10,000. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:06 | |
'And pushing their relationships to the very edge.' | 0:01:06 | 0:01:09 | |
I've threatened him with skips before. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:11 | |
'I'll be helping our collectors deal with their collections in crisis.' | 0:01:11 | 0:01:14 | |
Could I possibly call it an obsession? | 0:01:14 | 0:01:16 | |
It is bordering on that. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:18 | |
'And I'll be finding out what drives them to buy and buy and buy.' | 0:01:18 | 0:01:21 | |
Ah! It goes on forever! | 0:01:21 | 0:01:23 | |
-'This week...' -Ruff! -Ah! | 0:01:26 | 0:01:28 | |
'..we meet the man who's stuffed his house with over 500 dead animals.' | 0:01:28 | 0:01:32 | |
-It just goes on. -The scale of your collection is unbelievable. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:35 | |
'And the wife who's trying to tame him.' | 0:01:35 | 0:01:37 | |
I'd like to talk about the giraffe. | 0:01:37 | 0:01:39 | |
No, we're not having one of those, | 0:01:39 | 0:01:41 | |
but he just keeps smiling at me and he knows I'll give in. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:44 | |
The thousand-piece antique pottery collection | 0:01:44 | 0:01:46 | |
and the owner who fears it's crashed in value. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:49 | |
Absolutely gutted, that's not selling them, | 0:01:49 | 0:01:51 | |
that's giving them away. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:53 | |
And the competitive collectors vying for the spotlight. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:56 | |
My collection is the highbrow collection and Francis's is the lowbrow. | 0:01:56 | 0:01:59 | |
And there's a breathtaking revelation for one of them. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:03 | |
No! | 0:02:03 | 0:02:05 | |
We're in the heart of the British countryside to meet animal lovers Nigel and his wife Janice. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:15 | |
Gobble, gobble, gobble! | 0:02:15 | 0:02:17 | |
But Nigel's passion isn't just for the living. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:19 | |
TURKEYS GOBBLE | 0:02:20 | 0:02:23 | |
I collect taxidermy and curios linked to natural history. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:25 | |
As a result, his house is full to bursting with stuffed animals. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:32 | |
I've always liked it, I don't know why, even when I was quite young. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:34 | |
I can remember distinctly, in a stately home somewhere, | 0:02:34 | 0:02:37 | |
looking up and seeing all these huge deer heads and thinking, "I wonder | 0:02:37 | 0:02:41 | |
"if I'll ever be able to live in a house that will be able to have any | 0:02:41 | 0:02:44 | |
"of these on the wall," and I think that's really what fired it up. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:48 | |
Estate agent Nigel's passion for taxidermy was reignited by a little bird. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:55 | |
It was actually Jan who bought me a case many, many years ago with a hoopoe in it, which is a bird. | 0:02:56 | 0:03:01 | |
It was around about Nigel's birthday and I saw him | 0:03:01 | 0:03:05 | |
looking at this little bird and I said, | 0:03:05 | 0:03:06 | |
"Have that if you want it for your birthday, I'll buy you that." | 0:03:06 | 0:03:10 | |
And that really got me back into it in earnest | 0:03:10 | 0:03:12 | |
and she quite often says it was the worst thing she ever did, | 0:03:12 | 0:03:15 | |
and I always said it was the best thing she ever did. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:17 | |
In an era of animal conservation, | 0:03:17 | 0:03:19 | |
Nigel's collection might seem offensive, but the majority | 0:03:19 | 0:03:22 | |
of animals here died a long, long time ago, and are in fact antiques. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:27 | |
What I try and do is make sure that everything that I've got here | 0:03:27 | 0:03:30 | |
is either Victorian or died of natural causes. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:33 | |
The only place Nigel hunts big game is on the internet | 0:03:33 | 0:03:37 | |
and he deliberately avoids controversial items | 0:03:37 | 0:03:40 | |
like rhino horn or turtle shells, instead going for fakes. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:44 | |
I'd always felt that these things unfortunately have to die to | 0:03:44 | 0:03:47 | |
be stuffed, quite clearly, but once that's happened and I think it | 0:03:47 | 0:03:50 | |
does need to be looked after and cherished for future generations to enjoy. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:54 | |
Nigel's looking after so many animals, he's converted | 0:03:54 | 0:03:57 | |
the six-car garage into a trophy room, | 0:03:57 | 0:04:00 | |
turned the swimming pool into a diorama, | 0:04:00 | 0:04:03 | |
filled the bar, library and the billiard room. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:08 | |
I never dreamt in our lifetime that we'd run out of space here | 0:04:08 | 0:04:11 | |
because it looked so huge when we moved in. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:13 | |
Unbelievably, Nigel STILL wants more. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:17 | |
I trawl through auction catalogues, on the internet. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:20 | |
I go to boot sales, a lot of antique fairs, flea markets. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:23 | |
I never imagined that we'd end up with all this lot, no. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:25 | |
I swapped a dog head for a rhino foot the other day. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:30 | |
People say I'm very tolerant. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:32 | |
I say I don't know whether I'm tolerant or stupid! | 0:04:32 | 0:04:35 | |
'With this home completely overrun, | 0:04:35 | 0:04:37 | |
'and Nigel still on the hunt for more, | 0:04:37 | 0:04:39 | |
'can we help this couple find a way to live at one with these animals?' | 0:04:39 | 0:04:43 | |
Please, Mark, tell me that that is not a real rhino? | 0:04:43 | 0:04:46 | |
Definitely not. He looks like he's made of metal to me. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:49 | |
But he's got a bit of an evil glint in his eye, I think, there. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:52 | |
'But first I have to get my head around dealing with dead creatures.' | 0:04:52 | 0:04:55 | |
-Morning, hello, I'm Nigel. -Wow. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:01 | |
-Hello, I'm Mark. -Pleased to meet you. -Good lord, and who's that on top of you? | 0:05:01 | 0:05:04 | |
-Is it a squirrel? -Yes, that beats your hat, doesn't it? | 0:05:04 | 0:05:06 | |
-It certainly does. -You've only got one feather in yours. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:09 | |
-I don't know what to say. -Come on in. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:11 | |
Lovely to meet you, are you Janice? | 0:05:11 | 0:05:13 | |
-You too. I am, yes. -Hello. I'm Mel. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:14 | |
-Hello, I'm Mark, good to meet you, Janice. -Hello. -It's a great... Wow! | 0:05:14 | 0:05:18 | |
-But it's integrated. -They're all around us. -It's a cheetah, | 0:05:18 | 0:05:21 | |
-a polar bear, along with a grandfather clock. -Exactly, yes. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:23 | |
-Can we explore, Nigel? -Yes, certainly, come on through | 0:05:23 | 0:05:26 | |
-and then take you on a full tour. -We'll see you in a bit, Janice. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:28 | |
'But the hallway is just the tip of the iceberg.' | 0:05:28 | 0:05:31 | |
-OK. -There's a huge polar bear there. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:38 | |
Yep. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:41 | |
I have to say congratulations. I mean, that is spectacular. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:45 | |
-Yep. They don't come better, I don't think, do they? -No. It's amazing. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:48 | |
Look at these, they're everywhere. Pig, bison, huge... | 0:05:48 | 0:05:51 | |
-Tamworth... -Yep, Tamworth Red. -There's a spaniel! | 0:05:51 | 0:05:54 | |
That's quite cute. The spaniel is quite cute. You must admit. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:57 | |
Look. Aww. | 0:05:57 | 0:05:59 | |
Nigel, this is extraordinary. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:02 | |
Dogs, ah! I don't like them. It's the eyes. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:05 | |
You feel, they're ever so sharp, you feel the teeth. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:08 | |
-What is it? -Ruff! -Ahh! | 0:06:08 | 0:06:10 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:06:10 | 0:06:11 | |
That was pretty good. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:13 | |
MARK LAUGHS | 0:06:13 | 0:06:15 | |
It may seem unusual today, but during the mid to late 1800s, | 0:06:15 | 0:06:18 | |
hunting was so popular that there was reputed to be | 0:06:18 | 0:06:21 | |
a taxidermist in every town in Britain. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:24 | |
I just want to ask what Nigel.. Why do you do it? Wouldn't you rather just visit a zoo? | 0:06:24 | 0:06:28 | |
-You can't touchy-feely, can you? -No. Well, some - petting zoo? | 0:06:28 | 0:06:33 | |
I don't know whether you can pet a polar bear or a tiger or a lion or a... | 0:06:33 | 0:06:36 | |
Well, the little lambs and... | 0:06:38 | 0:06:40 | |
-Oh, I've got one of those as well. -Stuffed? -Yeah. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:43 | |
Over the past two decades Nigel has managed to amass | 0:06:43 | 0:06:46 | |
over 500 animals of every shape and size. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:50 | |
-Wow. -It just goes on. -I feel like I'm on safari. -He looks quite sozzled. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:54 | |
Yes, he does. He's fallen off his plinth. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:59 | |
In the collection are nine lions... | 0:06:59 | 0:07:01 | |
13 bears. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:02 | |
54 foxes. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:04 | |
44 fish. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:06 | |
And 264 birds. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:09 | |
Just go right... More big game. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:12 | |
-Hairy, hairy. It just goes on. -The scale of your collection is unbelievable. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:18 | |
The house just goes on and on and on. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:19 | |
-You know that the animals are kind of creeping in. -They are, really, aren't they? | 0:07:19 | 0:07:23 | |
Yeah, I do keep saying, "No, we're... | 0:07:23 | 0:07:26 | |
"we're not having one of those," but he just keeps smiling at me and he knows I'll give in. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:30 | |
That's because wily old Nigel's ambitions for his collection are reaching new heights. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:36 | |
If you could do one thing to improve your collection, what would it be? | 0:07:36 | 0:07:40 | |
I'd love a giraffe. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:41 | |
Not a full one, because they're a bit tall, | 0:07:42 | 0:07:44 | |
but you can get very nice head, neck and shoulder mounts. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:47 | |
And how does Jan feel about this? | 0:07:47 | 0:07:50 | |
It's going to be a bit of a negotiation. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:53 | |
I'd like to talk about the giraffe. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:55 | |
Oh. I have got mixed feelings about that, because the only place | 0:07:55 | 0:07:59 | |
it can go is in the hallway and its head on the landing will be | 0:07:59 | 0:08:02 | |
the first thing I see when I get out of bed in the morning. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:05 | |
I'm sure she'll warm up and come round a bit with a... | 0:08:05 | 0:08:07 | |
you know, I might have to treat her to a few frocks or something. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:10 | |
I'm not sure I'm keen on that, to be honest. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:14 | |
Perhaps Janice will be happier knowing Nigel's prepared to do some horse-trading to get his giraffe. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:19 | |
What needs to happen for you to...? | 0:08:19 | 0:08:21 | |
We've probably got to raise £5,000, £6,000, £7,000. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:27 | |
-Wow. By selling off...other bits. -Bits and pieces, yeah. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:32 | |
Nigel's prepared to spend thousands on a high quality giraffe head, | 0:08:32 | 0:08:36 | |
because realism is priced above all else | 0:08:36 | 0:08:39 | |
and with taxidermy, you get what you pay for. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:41 | |
I'm quite intrigued by what they do with the internal | 0:08:41 | 0:08:44 | |
bits like the tongue, and the eyes of course, what...? | 0:08:44 | 0:08:47 | |
They're acrylic or...the older ones are glass, these are acrylic. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:50 | |
Early taxidermy techniques were quite crude. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:53 | |
The animal was skinned and the hide preserved using salt or arsenic. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:57 | |
The skin was then pulled over a wooden frame | 0:08:57 | 0:08:59 | |
and stuffed with straw or fine wood shavings known as woodwool, | 0:08:59 | 0:09:03 | |
before finally being sewn up. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:04 | |
-And the nose. The nose is plastic? -The nose is real, probably, yeah. -The nose is real? | 0:09:04 | 0:09:08 | |
Yeah, they can do that. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:09 | |
By the mid to late 1800s, the best taxidermists were sculpting | 0:09:09 | 0:09:13 | |
highly detailed clay manikins of the animal, which the skin would then be stretched over. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:18 | |
This became known as mounting, as opposed to stuffing. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:22 | |
-The taxidermists are perfectionists, it's got to look exactly lifelike. -Absolutely. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:26 | |
There's some good ones and bad ones probably still today, | 0:09:26 | 0:09:29 | |
but in the olden days, there was quite a few poor ones, | 0:09:29 | 0:09:31 | |
and if you look over by the fireplace | 0:09:31 | 0:09:33 | |
there's a huge cape buffalo in the middle | 0:09:33 | 0:09:35 | |
and then the two animals to either side are exactly the same animal. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:39 | |
-You wouldn't guess it, would you? -No. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:43 | |
I see what he means. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:44 | |
Some of the animals here look less Life On Earth and a bit Basil Brush. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:47 | |
These less impressive animals are the ones Nigel is willing to sell. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:53 | |
When a run-of-the-mill fox head goes for around £80, | 0:09:53 | 0:09:57 | |
you start to realise he'll have to sell quite a lot of smaller items to raise enough for a giraffe. | 0:09:57 | 0:10:01 | |
At least Janice will be pleased. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:06 | |
Do you think it's an addiction? | 0:10:06 | 0:10:07 | |
I think of it... I think it's an illness. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:09 | |
Where do you draw the line? | 0:10:09 | 0:10:11 | |
How big are you going to go? | 0:10:11 | 0:10:13 | |
I'm hoping the giraffe will be the last big thing. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:16 | |
We can kill two birds with one stone here. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:19 | |
Help Janice by thinning the collection | 0:10:19 | 0:10:21 | |
and help Nigel get his giraffe. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:23 | |
But to sell enough taxidermy, we're going to need a cunning plan. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:28 | |
Somebody who also needs their fortune transforming | 0:10:36 | 0:10:39 | |
is retired bus driver Bob, who downsized his life to fit into this caravan. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:44 | |
Every room of his new home is packed floor to ceiling with | 0:10:44 | 0:10:48 | |
antique Ironstone china made by British company Mason's. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:52 | |
Next to the dogs, it's probably the second most important thing in my life. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:55 | |
I think when you collect Mason's Ironstone, | 0:10:55 | 0:10:58 | |
you are not a collector, you are an addict. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:00 | |
There's no halfway stage, I think, with Mason's, | 0:11:00 | 0:11:03 | |
you either absolutely love it or you think it's horrible. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:06 | |
It has really just sort of taken over my life. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:09 | |
Mason's were one of the pioneers of British ceramics. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:12 | |
They created crockery with bold, oriental style patterns | 0:11:12 | 0:11:16 | |
that were extremely popular with the burgeoning middle classes of the early 1800s, | 0:11:16 | 0:11:21 | |
but the unmistakable style has divided opinion ever since. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:24 | |
It's so beautiful that I wouldn't want to collect it | 0:11:24 | 0:11:27 | |
if it had to be in a box underneath the caravan. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:29 | |
It has to be displayed. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:30 | |
But due to lack of space, that's sadly what Bob's been forced to do. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:36 | |
Underneath the caravan, he has ten boxes of his much-loved | 0:11:36 | 0:11:39 | |
Mason's ceramics, some of which are more than 200 years old. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:44 | |
There's no way I'm ever going to be able to display them | 0:11:44 | 0:11:47 | |
and I don't want to just, you know, own them | 0:11:47 | 0:11:49 | |
just to say, "I've got that", but I don't want it sitting in boxes under | 0:11:49 | 0:11:52 | |
the caravan, I'd much rather sell it and let somebody else enjoy it. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:56 | |
Maybe we can find a way to keep Mason's as the foundation of Bob's life and not his caravan. | 0:11:56 | 0:12:02 | |
-Hello, are you Bob? -Hello. I'm Bob, yes, please come in. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:07 | |
-Hello, Bob, lovely to see you, how are you? -And you. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:11 | |
-Every single flat surface. -Wow. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:15 | |
Look above, above our heads, literally, that is... | 0:12:15 | 0:12:19 | |
Bob, this is extraordinary. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:21 | |
How long have you been amassing this for, Bob? | 0:12:21 | 0:12:23 | |
Probably started in about '84. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:26 | |
Mother got into Mason's and I thought, "Ooh, lovely colours, lovely patterns," | 0:12:26 | 0:12:30 | |
and so it started off very slowly, probably didn't get serious until probably the late '80s. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:36 | |
-It's been a long time. -Yeah. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:38 | |
-And it's not just in this room, is it? It's in... -Every room. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:41 | |
-Other areas. -There's more. -Every room. -Shall we? Go this way. -Please, yes. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:45 | |
Come through here. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:49 | |
Even more. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:51 | |
Do people sleep in here, Bob? | 0:12:51 | 0:12:53 | |
Well, they would have done before I put two Welsh dressers in, yes. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:56 | |
-I was going to say. -It did have two single beds in. | 0:12:56 | 0:12:59 | |
You'd be scared of moving. I'm not going in any further, not with this coat on. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:03 | |
No. They liked to decorate things didn't they, in those days? | 0:13:03 | 0:13:06 | |
-Oh, yes. -It's quite.... | 0:13:06 | 0:13:08 | |
-Very busy. -It's busy, it's busy, it's not restful china, is it? | 0:13:08 | 0:13:13 | |
-No. -It's busy old china. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:14 | |
The decorative style of Mason's is definitely not everyone's cup of tea. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:20 | |
Its popularity has fluctuated over the decades | 0:13:20 | 0:13:22 | |
until production ceased in 1998. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:25 | |
My first wife wasn't keen on me collecting Mason's at all. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:30 | |
She basically looked at it as a waste of money, | 0:13:30 | 0:13:33 | |
because she didn't actually like it. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:35 | |
Ah, the master bedroom. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:38 | |
There's just so much to take in. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:41 | |
-Bob, you sleep amongst your collection. -Oh, yes! | 0:13:41 | 0:13:45 | |
My second wife had more of an adventurous nature | 0:13:45 | 0:13:48 | |
and found some pieces that she liked and duly started collecting, and I | 0:13:48 | 0:13:51 | |
think had we not split up, she would have probably been a serious rival. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:56 | |
Space wise, well, there's... there's this. | 0:13:56 | 0:14:00 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:14:00 | 0:14:01 | |
So how many pieces do you have in total? | 0:14:01 | 0:14:03 | |
-There are thousands, by the looks of it. -Thousands. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:06 | |
No, probably down to a few hundred now. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:08 | |
-Sorry, sorry, down to a few hundred? -Mmm. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:11 | |
-Have you sold off some? -I've sold probably about 10 or so boxes | 0:14:11 | 0:14:16 | |
and I've probably got about another 10 or 12 underneath the van. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:20 | |
Do you worry about the collection being under the caravan? | 0:14:20 | 0:14:24 | |
-It's locked, but we don't get any problems here anyway. -No. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:27 | |
The only thing that I don't like is just having it doing nothing. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:30 | |
To me, it's not owning it, | 0:14:30 | 0:14:34 | |
you want to display it. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:35 | |
You've got to put it on display, otherwise there's no point in having it. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:38 | |
You can't have the memories that are associated with it too. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:40 | |
I would rather sell it and let somebody else have the pleasure of being able to see it. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:45 | |
The market for antiques moves in cycles of popularity | 0:14:46 | 0:14:49 | |
and unfortunately for Bob, the 1990s saw the start of a trend for modern, minimalist interiors. | 0:14:49 | 0:14:56 | |
People were encouraged to chuck out their chintz, and | 0:14:56 | 0:14:59 | |
since then much Mason's has become unfashionable and difficult to sell. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:03 | |
And you've talked about collecting the Mason's as a sort of addiction. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:09 | |
-Yes, yes. -How much are you spending in the height of your addiction? | 0:15:09 | 0:15:16 | |
I could quite easily spend £5,000, £6,000, £7,000 a year, | 0:15:16 | 0:15:21 | |
which meant an awful lot of overtime to pay for it all. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:24 | |
-Oh, Bob. -But it was worth it. I don't regret it. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:27 | |
I mean, I used to work seven days a week to earn the money to | 0:15:27 | 0:15:31 | |
pay off the overdraft and go to the next Newark Antique Fair and buy some more. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:36 | |
But, you know, given the choice I would go back and do it again. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:38 | |
So what's the most amount of money you've spent on a piece? | 0:15:38 | 0:15:41 | |
I think that would be the bowpot there, | 0:15:41 | 0:15:43 | |
and I think from memory, that was about £1,700 or £1,800. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:46 | |
The really bad news is just how much the market has collapsed. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:51 | |
20 years ago, a soup terrine in good condition could have fetched around £2,000. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:58 | |
Today the value of the same item is likely to be half what it once was. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:02 | |
The last auction I went to, I put some pieces in, had five cups and saucers, | 0:16:04 | 0:16:08 | |
which I thought probably £20 a piece, and one lot sold for £5. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:13 | |
-No reserve, and you think, "Well, that's not selling items, that's giving them away." -Yeah. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:17 | |
But the pieces that we're standing on top of, there's very little point in that, is there? | 0:16:17 | 0:16:21 | |
They really do need to be sold, | 0:16:21 | 0:16:23 | |
but at the moment it's just a matter of getting a price that you're happy with for those items. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:29 | |
'Sounds like it's tough to find anybody who's willing to pay Bob's asking price for his Mason's.' | 0:16:30 | 0:16:36 | |
That's true, but this isn't the first time Mason's has gone in and out of popularity. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:40 | |
To understand more about the turbulent 200 year history of Mason's, I'm heading back in time. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:48 | |
This period house is kept as a recreation of a home at the turn of the 19th century. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:57 | |
It was a time when owning the finest ceramics indicated wealth and status. | 0:16:57 | 0:17:03 | |
Miles Mason was a dealer in expensive and delicate Chinese porcelain, | 0:17:04 | 0:17:09 | |
but seeing a gap in the market, he began producing his own British-made china. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:14 | |
With his son Charles, he also experimented with different types of clay mixtures, | 0:17:14 | 0:17:19 | |
in order to produce something more economical and durable. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:22 | |
In 1813, Mason's cracked it, | 0:17:22 | 0:17:25 | |
they patented a game-changing new ceramic and named it Ironstone china. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:30 | |
Decorated with colours and patterns found on desirable oriental porcelains, | 0:17:31 | 0:17:36 | |
Mason's patent Ironstone china captured the public's imagination. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:40 | |
Ironstone china was refined enough to entertain the gentry | 0:17:41 | 0:17:44 | |
and tough enough to be entrusted to clumsy servants. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:48 | |
It sold by the bucket-load. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:50 | |
But the good times didn't last. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:53 | |
Miles died in 1822 and Charles was over-eager to modernise | 0:17:53 | 0:17:57 | |
the manufacturing process, but not the design. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:01 | |
Mason's flooded the market with products of an inferior quality. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:05 | |
Sales plummeted and in 1848 Charles Mason was declared bankrupt. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:10 | |
He died a few years later, having lost all he and his father had worked for. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:15 | |
A chain of different owners continued using the name Mason's | 0:18:16 | 0:18:20 | |
until the company finally closed for good. | 0:18:20 | 0:18:22 | |
For collectors like Bob, the Mason's ceramics made in those early years, between 1800 and 1825 | 0:18:28 | 0:18:34 | |
are the most valuable and sought after. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:37 | |
But the problem is, while rare or desirable pieces in excellent condition | 0:18:37 | 0:18:42 | |
are still doing well, in the current market, | 0:18:42 | 0:18:44 | |
run-of-the-mill common items, like many of the cups and saucers and plates under the caravan, | 0:18:44 | 0:18:49 | |
are hard to sell. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:50 | |
As from last year, I've stopped putting anything in auction | 0:18:52 | 0:18:55 | |
and hopefully the prices will pick up again. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:58 | |
Bob needs to sell, but it's going to take some radical thinking to buck | 0:18:58 | 0:19:02 | |
the downward trend of the Mason's market. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:04 | |
Dealing with one collection is tough enough. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:10 | |
But behind the door of this ordinary looking house is not one but two highly competitive collectors | 0:19:10 | 0:19:15 | |
tussling for the same space. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:17 | |
I collect decorative art from | 0:19:19 | 0:19:21 | |
the early part of the 20th century - | 0:19:21 | 0:19:22 | |
ceramics, furniture, carpets, lamps, rugs, pictures. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:27 | |
David had filled almost the whole house | 0:19:27 | 0:19:29 | |
with work by the Bloomsbury Group, | 0:19:29 | 0:19:32 | |
a historically significant collective of British artists | 0:19:32 | 0:19:35 | |
and intellectuals who changed the face of British art and design. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:39 | |
This is one of my favourite pieces | 0:19:39 | 0:19:40 | |
and it's a chair that was designed in 1913 by a man called | 0:19:40 | 0:19:44 | |
Roger Fry, and I love my collecting because it's about research | 0:19:44 | 0:19:48 | |
and about searching for things and finding stuff. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:51 | |
It's a search, it's a discovery, and I love that. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:53 | |
David uses his research to spot bargains, and after nine years | 0:19:53 | 0:19:57 | |
of collecting, he's eager to find out if his keen eye has paid off. | 0:19:57 | 0:20:01 | |
I'd like a valuation, it might frighten me a bit, | 0:20:01 | 0:20:04 | |
because I have no idea what things are worth. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:07 | |
But I would like a valuation, yeah. Be interesting, very interesting. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:10 | |
Tucked away in the corner of this room, there's another collection that belongs to David's partner, Francis. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:16 | |
I collect salt and pepper shakers. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:18 | |
I've been collecting them for well over 15 years. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:22 | |
It's a whole bunch of objects that make me very happy. | 0:20:22 | 0:20:25 | |
People, animals, fruit, vegetables. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:29 | |
When I'm really feeling low, I can look at my collection and it sort of brightens me up. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:33 | |
Despite having almost 2,000 sets of ceramic shakers, | 0:20:33 | 0:20:37 | |
this collection is confined to just two cupboards in the house. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:40 | |
My collection is small, manageable, easy to store, and David's is big. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:49 | |
My collection is much more, um, decorative and eclectic | 0:20:49 | 0:20:53 | |
and a whole mixture, but he just collects one thing, salt and peppers. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:57 | |
You could put either one painting in the space or you could | 0:20:57 | 0:21:00 | |
put 20 salt and pepper shakers in that space. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:04 | |
So, Mark, something a little bit different today. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:07 | |
Have you ever lived with another collector? | 0:21:07 | 0:21:09 | |
No. I'm not entirely sure I'd have the space. | 0:21:09 | 0:21:12 | |
-Oh, really? -The town ain't big enough. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:14 | |
Interesting. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:15 | |
DOORBELL RINGS | 0:21:15 | 0:21:17 | |
-Hello. -Hello. -Come on in. | 0:21:19 | 0:21:20 | |
It's not Avon calling. Hello, good to see you. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:23 | |
-Hello, I'm Mark, nice to meet you. -Hi, there. You must be Francis. -Welcome to our home. -This is Mark. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:27 | |
-Hello, Francis. Thank you very much for having us. -Thank you. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:30 | |
-Oh, my goodness gracious me! -Whoa. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:33 | |
Well, you can't miss David's collection, it's everywhere you look. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:39 | |
Wow! | 0:21:41 | 0:21:42 | |
It's only when you look harder, you notice the second collection in here. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:46 | |
-Those are all salt and pepper shakers? -Yes. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:49 | |
-There's every single shape under the sun. -Oh, yes. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:52 | |
But how does this work? | 0:21:52 | 0:21:53 | |
You've got sort of art pottery from the 1920s and '30s, | 0:21:53 | 0:21:56 | |
and 1910s even, and then salt and pepper shakers. | 0:21:56 | 0:21:59 | |
It's an interesting combination. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:01 | |
-Yeah. -They don't cross. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:02 | |
Well, I would say, tongue-in-cheek, that my collection is the highbrow collection | 0:22:02 | 0:22:07 | |
-and Francis's middle to lowbrow. -Ooh. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:09 | |
-Which he hates, but he knows that, he knows that I kind of say that. -He's smiling, he's smiling. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:13 | |
I wouldn't say mine is lowbrow in the sense it's... it's less important. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:17 | |
Mine is just as valuable and important, | 0:22:17 | 0:22:19 | |
but the difference is mine is more accessible, | 0:22:19 | 0:22:21 | |
and it's my role in life is to not make it just a country cousin. | 0:22:21 | 0:22:25 | |
-I'm sensing there's quite a lot of competition going on between these two. -I agree. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:31 | |
David's collection is dominating this house | 0:22:31 | 0:22:34 | |
and maybe Francis has a bit of collection envy? | 0:22:34 | 0:22:38 | |
We need to find out more about their individual passions, but where do we start? | 0:22:38 | 0:22:42 | |
How about a nice cup of tea? | 0:22:43 | 0:22:45 | |
-Well, you sit there. -Ah, thank you. So elegant. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:49 | |
'This house looks deceptively like it's just tastefully decorated, | 0:22:49 | 0:22:54 | |
'but everything here is connected to the Bloomsbury Group.' | 0:22:54 | 0:22:57 | |
Whilst authors Virginia Woolf and E M Forster are the most famous | 0:22:57 | 0:23:01 | |
of the Bloomsbury Group, David is passionate about the art works of | 0:23:01 | 0:23:06 | |
Duncan Grant, Roger Fry and Virginia Woolf's sister, Vanessa Bell. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:11 | |
For them, any surface was a canvas for self-expression. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:15 | |
This decorative style was channelled into bold new ceramics | 0:23:15 | 0:23:19 | |
and furniture that defied the conventions of the time. | 0:23:19 | 0:23:22 | |
It's incredible. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:24 | |
I want to have a little weep, it's just, for me, beautiful objects. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:28 | |
-A good weep or a bad weep? -Oh, no, a good weep. -A good weep. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:31 | |
-Tears of joy, without a doubt, it's stunning. -Oh, good. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:34 | |
-The colours, just the feeling. -Yeah. -Don't you think? | 0:23:34 | 0:23:38 | |
Yeah, it's absolutely gorgeous. | 0:23:38 | 0:23:40 | |
We're sitting on it... and even eating off it, too. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:45 | |
Is this very valuable? I feel bad now. Is this? | 0:23:46 | 0:23:49 | |
Probably, and it's the funny thing about ceramics is that you can | 0:23:49 | 0:23:53 | |
drop it and they're broken and it's gone and I love the thrill of it. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:56 | |
It almost increases the thrill of use... | 0:23:56 | 0:23:58 | |
the use, because it can just... | 0:23:58 | 0:23:59 | |
-Because it could go so quickly. -..be gone. Yeah. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:01 | |
So, David, what is it you get out of your collection? | 0:24:01 | 0:24:04 | |
It's the displaying of it. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:05 | |
I love displaying it, that I live with the collection and that I use it. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:09 | |
-And I also do open days for people, like, the Decorative Art Society come and... -Mm-hm. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:12 | |
We'll do an open day and have tea in the garden. I love sharing my collection. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:16 | |
The collection might have gained appreciation from Bloomsbury aficionados, | 0:24:16 | 0:24:20 | |
but what David really wants to find out is, has it matured in value? | 0:24:20 | 0:24:24 | |
I've been able to buy more pictures than I could hang on the wall, | 0:24:24 | 0:24:27 | |
so they're upstairs in the attic, and as a justification | 0:24:27 | 0:24:30 | |
for buying those paintings, I call it my pension fund. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:32 | |
-Justification. I love it. -Yeah. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:36 | |
I don't think David realises the potential value of what he's sitting on, so I've asked if I can take | 0:24:37 | 0:24:42 | |
a closer look at his investment. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:44 | |
Right, this is my little office, the place where I sit and look things | 0:24:46 | 0:24:49 | |
a while and decide where they're going to go, upstairs in the attic | 0:24:49 | 0:24:52 | |
to my pension fund pile up there or whether I'm going to hang them... | 0:24:52 | 0:24:55 | |
I notice, this is something I haven't seen before, a fan. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:58 | |
No, I know. It's really incredible. | 0:24:58 | 0:24:59 | |
This is almost sort of Matisse or Picasso-like in its strange... | 0:24:59 | 0:25:03 | |
There's another one similar in the Victoria and Albert Museum, | 0:25:03 | 0:25:05 | |
but they're the only two that I know of. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:07 | |
So if there are only a couple of those known, that must be worth, what, £2,000 or £3,000? | 0:25:07 | 0:25:11 | |
I should think so, something like that, yeah. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:13 | |
Although the Bloomsbury Group were named after their base in London, the best place to find out | 0:25:15 | 0:25:19 | |
more about them is here, at their country retreat in Sussex. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:23 | |
Wow. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:27 | |
'Wendy Hitchmough is curator here at Charleston House.' | 0:25:27 | 0:25:31 | |
There's so much art, isn't there? Everywhere you look there's a piece of art, whether it be a chair or a | 0:25:31 | 0:25:36 | |
piece of ceramics or a lampshade or a cushion or a table or tiles or... | 0:25:36 | 0:25:41 | |
It's amazing. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:43 | |
As a conscientious objector to World War I, the artist | 0:25:43 | 0:25:46 | |
Duncan Grant faced prison unless he was working on the land. | 0:25:46 | 0:25:51 | |
So in 1916, he and Vanessa Bell moved to this farmhouse. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:55 | |
It quickly became the place where the Bloomsbury Group pursued their unconventional lives. | 0:25:55 | 0:26:00 | |
For lots of people it was a kind of... it was a retreat, | 0:26:00 | 0:26:03 | |
it was a place where they could be themselves, let rip a bit. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:06 | |
It was a place where they could come and focus on their work, | 0:26:06 | 0:26:09 | |
and a great deal of work was produced at Charleston. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:11 | |
After breakfast in the dining room, the writers would go back to their bedrooms and write | 0:26:11 | 0:26:16 | |
and the artists would come to the studio and they would paint. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:19 | |
Influenced by the Post-Impressionist style of Cezanne, Van Gogh | 0:26:19 | 0:26:22 | |
and Gauguin, Bloomsbury work also embraced more modern approaches, such as Cubism. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:28 | |
For collectors like David, the story behind these artworks is part of the attraction too. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:34 | |
I also spotted this little drawing down here. This is by who? | 0:26:34 | 0:26:39 | |
It's by Duncan Grant, addressed to who at the time was his lover, | 0:26:39 | 0:26:42 | |
called David Garnett. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:45 | |
Who in turn ended up marrying Duncan's daughter, | 0:26:45 | 0:26:50 | |
so it was quite an incestuous arrangement. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:52 | |
But that's true of so much of the Bloomsbury Group themselves, | 0:26:52 | 0:26:54 | |
everybody said there was complicated love triangles, they would say. | 0:26:54 | 0:26:58 | |
Very complicated, and he did this in 1914. | 0:26:58 | 0:26:59 | |
So he was presumably working with whatever he could find, and in this case... | 0:26:59 | 0:27:03 | |
-Absolutely. -..an envelope. -Yeah. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:04 | |
And what did you pay for this? | 0:27:04 | 0:27:07 | |
Not a great deal, amount, I don't think, about £300. | 0:27:07 | 0:27:10 | |
But I think it's quite important and quite interesting, and I did loan it to an exhibition. | 0:27:10 | 0:27:14 | |
And that sort of thing can help increase the value as well as research if it's shown publicly | 0:27:14 | 0:27:18 | |
and put into catalogues, that's a good thing. | 0:27:18 | 0:27:20 | |
-It was photographed and put on exhibition, so... -So this is part of the pension fund? | 0:27:20 | 0:27:24 | |
That's part of the pension fund and I think the value's gone up because of that. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:27 | |
It's quite a wonderful thing. | 0:27:27 | 0:27:30 | |
Along with the paintings, David has eye-catching ceramics and furniture made in the Omega Workshops, | 0:27:30 | 0:27:36 | |
a venture started by Bloomsbury artist Roger Fry in 1913. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:40 | |
It's a wonderful Omega Workshops famous turquoise glazed bowl. | 0:27:42 | 0:27:46 | |
It's an enormous piece of pottery. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:47 | |
It's really enormous, and there's the Omega stamp on the bottom. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:50 | |
The idea behind the workshops was to pay the most progressive | 0:27:52 | 0:27:56 | |
young artists a day rate so that they could design for Omega | 0:27:56 | 0:28:00 | |
and earn enough money to live on and then produce | 0:28:00 | 0:28:03 | |
the sorts of paintings that they wanted to produce without | 0:28:03 | 0:28:06 | |
having to worry about selling their paintings. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:08 | |
The workshops designed furniture, textiles, everything for the home. | 0:28:08 | 0:28:13 | |
And, Wendy, have a lot of the Omega pieces survived, | 0:28:13 | 0:28:16 | |
or are they very rare and hard to find? | 0:28:16 | 0:28:19 | |
No, they are very rare and hard to find, the Omega Workshops was | 0:28:19 | 0:28:22 | |
only in existence for six years. | 0:28:22 | 0:28:24 | |
That must make David's collection of Omega pieces really very extraordinary and pretty special. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:31 | |
Yes, David's collection and Charleston's collection are two | 0:28:31 | 0:28:35 | |
of the best Omega collections in the world. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:40 | |
'David's collection certainly has a pedigree, | 0:28:40 | 0:28:43 | |
'but he wants to know if his choices have also been good investments.' | 0:28:43 | 0:28:47 | |
Omega Workshops' pottery and furniture rarely comes onto the market. | 0:28:47 | 0:28:51 | |
So to accumulate so much, David obviously knows a thing or two. | 0:28:51 | 0:28:56 | |
The question is, will it all add up to more or less than | 0:28:56 | 0:28:59 | |
the £60,000 that he estimates he's already spent on the collection? | 0:28:59 | 0:29:03 | |
Having been dazzled by David's artworks, I think we've been | 0:29:05 | 0:29:08 | |
neglecting the other collector in the house. | 0:29:08 | 0:29:11 | |
I fear THAT might be something Francis feels quite often, and it needs to be rectified. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:16 | |
For taxidermy-obsessed Nigel, there's one animal that will | 0:29:22 | 0:29:25 | |
elevate his collection to new heights. | 0:29:25 | 0:29:28 | |
I'd really like a giraffe neck and head, | 0:29:28 | 0:29:31 | |
but, I mean, you're talking many, many thousands of pounds. | 0:29:31 | 0:29:35 | |
But in order to fulfil his lofty ambitions, Nigel's going to | 0:29:35 | 0:29:38 | |
have to sell quite a lot of his less impressive specimens. | 0:29:38 | 0:29:42 | |
At least thinning out the collection will keep his wife Janice happy. | 0:29:42 | 0:29:46 | |
The problem is just the space, that we're running out of space now, so. | 0:29:46 | 0:29:51 | |
Improving his menagerie is a lifelong project for Nigel. | 0:29:51 | 0:29:56 | |
It might be out of the ordinary today, but once upon a time, | 0:29:56 | 0:29:59 | |
collecting taxidermy was considered a highly noble pursuit. | 0:29:59 | 0:30:03 | |
Quex Park in Kent was once home to one of the country's greatest | 0:30:07 | 0:30:11 | |
collectors of taxidermy, and a man after Nigel's heart. | 0:30:11 | 0:30:16 | |
Major Percy Horace Gordon Powell-Cotton opened this museum in the grounds of Quex in 1896. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:23 | |
But unlike Nigel, he acquired his animals directly from the wild. | 0:30:23 | 0:30:28 | |
For those of means, taxidermy represented | 0:30:28 | 0:30:30 | |
a thirst for knowledge and education, but it was also | 0:30:30 | 0:30:34 | |
a status symbol that said, "Look how successful, rich and clever I am." | 0:30:34 | 0:30:40 | |
Major Powell-Cotton collected more than 500 animals from Africa and Asia, | 0:30:40 | 0:30:45 | |
including six specimens of Nigel's coveted giraffe. | 0:30:45 | 0:30:49 | |
All his exhibits were created for the Major by the finest taxidermists of the period. | 0:30:50 | 0:30:56 | |
Taxidermy had come of age. | 0:30:57 | 0:30:59 | |
The most realistic animals and dramatic settings were | 0:30:59 | 0:31:02 | |
celebrated and prized, and their creators lauded as artists, | 0:31:02 | 0:31:06 | |
sculptors and biologists, and of them none were more famous and successful | 0:31:06 | 0:31:11 | |
than London's Rowland Ward. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:14 | |
Provincial taxidermists would invariably never see the animal | 0:31:15 | 0:31:18 | |
they were recreating and often only had a preserved pelt to work with. | 0:31:18 | 0:31:22 | |
Ward ensured that hunters quickly and accurately measured | 0:31:24 | 0:31:27 | |
the dimensions of the dead animal before skinning, allowing him | 0:31:27 | 0:31:31 | |
to create taxidermy with precise physical realism. | 0:31:31 | 0:31:35 | |
He developed a number of new and advanced techniques, | 0:31:35 | 0:31:38 | |
one of which was the use of clay under the skin, | 0:31:38 | 0:31:41 | |
in addition to the traditional woodwool stuffing. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:44 | |
This allowed him to create accurate muscle definition and dramatic facial expressions. | 0:31:44 | 0:31:49 | |
This ferocious lion attacked and mauled the Major in 1906. | 0:31:52 | 0:31:56 | |
He commissioned Ward to immortalise the scene with the Major represented by the buffalo. | 0:31:56 | 0:32:02 | |
Ward exceeded all expectation, creating something that was hailed as his greatest achievement. | 0:32:02 | 0:32:09 | |
The display captured the deadly beast with such a sense of drama | 0:32:09 | 0:32:13 | |
and accuracy that when it was exhibited in Ward's Piccadilly showroom, | 0:32:13 | 0:32:17 | |
it reputedly brought London traffic to a standstill. | 0:32:17 | 0:32:20 | |
After the Second World War, tastes changed - | 0:32:27 | 0:32:30 | |
as hunting gave way to conservation, taxidermy became | 0:32:30 | 0:32:33 | |
seen as an inappropriate way of treating our natural heritage. | 0:32:33 | 0:32:37 | |
Museums began hiding and even discarding collections that had once taken pride of place. | 0:32:37 | 0:32:44 | |
In one extreme example, Saffron Walden Museum spent three days | 0:32:44 | 0:32:48 | |
burning an entire collection of antique animals. | 0:32:48 | 0:32:52 | |
Partly because many collections have been lost, | 0:32:52 | 0:32:55 | |
Ward's work is now hugely sought after and fetches high prices. | 0:32:55 | 0:33:00 | |
Today, one of these full size Ward giraffes would cost as much as | 0:33:00 | 0:33:04 | |
£10,000, but something as unique as this could fetch more than £100,000. | 0:33:04 | 0:33:11 | |
Nigel might not have a collection to rival Major Powell-Cotton | 0:33:18 | 0:33:21 | |
quite yet, but he does have some items of real interest. | 0:33:21 | 0:33:25 | |
Taxidermy is enjoying a revival, so the potential for it | 0:33:27 | 0:33:30 | |
increasing in value is there, but only if he has bought wisely. | 0:33:30 | 0:33:34 | |
Looking at how much it's all worth. | 0:33:34 | 0:33:36 | |
Since I've started, I've probably spent £70,000 to £80,000 on the collection. | 0:33:36 | 0:33:40 | |
If it is a little nest egg, then perhaps Janice will be more | 0:33:40 | 0:33:44 | |
tolerant of Nigel's obsession with the animal afterlife. | 0:33:44 | 0:33:48 | |
But for the time being she's more preoccupied with his quest for a giraffe. | 0:33:48 | 0:33:52 | |
I have waved the white flag at giraffe in the hallway. | 0:33:52 | 0:33:56 | |
-Fortunately, it's becoming hard to locate one. -SHE CHUCKLES | 0:33:56 | 0:33:59 | |
At the house with two rival collections... | 0:34:01 | 0:34:05 | |
We've already taken an in-depth look at David's museum calibre artworks. | 0:34:05 | 0:34:10 | |
And now it's the turn of the overlooked salt and pepper collection belonging to Francis. | 0:34:10 | 0:34:15 | |
-Wow, there's a lot of them. -And now many are in there? | 0:34:15 | 0:34:19 | |
-It would be about 800. -But this is not the extent of it? | 0:34:19 | 0:34:21 | |
-This is not the extent of my collection. The full collection is over 2,000 sets. -Good Lord! | 0:34:21 | 0:34:26 | |
Francis has salt and pepper shakers from every decade, going back to the 1920s. | 0:34:26 | 0:34:30 | |
Like these, by renowned German manufacturer Goebel. | 0:34:32 | 0:34:36 | |
They're very sweet, the facial expressions. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:39 | |
-They're very similar to Hummel figurines. -Yes, yes. | 0:34:39 | 0:34:41 | |
Which are very sought after, | 0:34:41 | 0:34:43 | |
and they've just got that fantastic '20s and '30s look, haven't they? | 0:34:43 | 0:34:46 | |
With that hair and those colours. | 0:34:46 | 0:34:49 | |
Salt and pepper shakers only really came to prominence in the early 20th century | 0:34:49 | 0:34:53 | |
when the invention of iodised table salt meant free-flowing, fine grains that wouldn't clog. | 0:34:53 | 0:34:59 | |
It's what we call in the salt and pepper world, is a holder. | 0:34:59 | 0:35:02 | |
That is adorable, she's got two hatboxes. | 0:35:02 | 0:35:05 | |
So she's holding two hatboxes and there's the bottom. | 0:35:05 | 0:35:07 | |
-Oh! That is so cute. -The cork. | 0:35:07 | 0:35:13 | |
She's also so much in the style of the day. | 0:35:13 | 0:35:14 | |
You've got this stepped back, typical of the Art Deco movement. | 0:35:14 | 0:35:17 | |
-Yes, Art Deco movement, yes. -And look at her hair and her hat and her clothes. -I love this. | 0:35:17 | 0:35:22 | |
It was around the time of the Great Depression that novelty shakers took off globally. | 0:35:22 | 0:35:27 | |
Ceramics manufacturers spotted a hole in the market for small, | 0:35:27 | 0:35:30 | |
affordable ornaments to brighten up the home. | 0:35:30 | 0:35:33 | |
So, Francis, what is it that you actually get out of your collection? | 0:35:33 | 0:35:37 | |
I enjoy the look and the feel and the sense of happiness. | 0:35:37 | 0:35:42 | |
For example, this one here. Look at her. | 0:35:42 | 0:35:46 | |
So how much would you say that was worth? | 0:35:46 | 0:35:48 | |
Today it would be worth maybe £20. | 0:35:48 | 0:35:51 | |
How much have you spent on the whole collection, do you think? | 0:35:51 | 0:35:54 | |
There's quite a lot of £20, but I'm pretty sure that most of them are worth more than that. | 0:35:54 | 0:35:58 | |
I would say maybe £4,000. | 0:35:58 | 0:36:00 | |
I'm starting to understand that there's much more to salt and pepper shakers than I first thought. | 0:36:00 | 0:36:05 | |
-That's... -Very happy bride and groom. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:07 | |
'No wonder Francis is sensitive about David's take on his shakers.' | 0:36:07 | 0:36:12 | |
The word "novelty" offends him | 0:36:12 | 0:36:14 | |
when I say his salt and pepper shakers are novelties. | 0:36:14 | 0:36:16 | |
He really wants them to be taken much more seriously than that. | 0:36:16 | 0:36:19 | |
My ambition for my collection is to put it out in the open more, | 0:36:19 | 0:36:22 | |
about that it's more than just an everyday, functional item. | 0:36:22 | 0:36:25 | |
Perhaps by taking a closer look at the world of salt and pepper shakers, | 0:36:25 | 0:36:29 | |
I can find a way to help Francis achieve his ambition. | 0:36:29 | 0:36:32 | |
-My eye is drawn to the edible. -To the chocolates. Oh, yes. | 0:36:32 | 0:36:37 | |
Look at those little chocolates. So sweet, look at that. | 0:36:37 | 0:36:40 | |
These chocolates might look good enough to eat, | 0:36:40 | 0:36:43 | |
but they will never contain salt or pepper. | 0:36:43 | 0:36:46 | |
I'm not allowed to use them, or the guests aren't allowed to use them, | 0:36:46 | 0:36:50 | |
-they're just there for decorative purposes. -Why is that? -If only I knew. | 0:36:50 | 0:36:54 | |
No, he won't have salt in them, as he sees salt as corrosive on them, yeah. | 0:36:54 | 0:36:58 | |
-So they're strictly not to be used. Display only. -Display only. | 0:36:59 | 0:37:03 | |
-This is a holder, so you have one who holds the other. -Holding the other. | 0:37:03 | 0:37:09 | |
-And this one here... -Yes. | 0:37:09 | 0:37:10 | |
Is what's called the hanger. You can touch it. | 0:37:10 | 0:37:14 | |
I can't believe the amount of subsets in the salt and pepper shaker world. | 0:37:16 | 0:37:21 | |
Yes, but that sort of hydrant and dog has been around for a long time, but that posture... | 0:37:21 | 0:37:27 | |
So that is a subsection all of its own, the leg-lifter? | 0:37:27 | 0:37:30 | |
That could be, yes, yes, the leg-lifter, yes. | 0:37:30 | 0:37:32 | |
-Yeah. Now, this is a nestler. -A nestler, a hanger and a holder. -Yes. | 0:37:32 | 0:37:36 | |
People, when they come to the house, are always drawn to his collection, | 0:37:37 | 0:37:40 | |
cos they're funny and novel, but he's never actually... | 0:37:40 | 0:37:43 | |
cos the salt and peppers have never been the centre of attention. | 0:37:43 | 0:37:46 | |
I've loaned some of my pieces to museums and things for exhibitions | 0:37:46 | 0:37:49 | |
and that's never happened to him, but I really secretly think that he'd like to do that, he'd love | 0:37:49 | 0:37:53 | |
a museum to come along and borrow one of his salt and pepper shakers. | 0:37:53 | 0:37:57 | |
I mean, when people go to museums now and see old Egyptian artefacts, | 0:37:57 | 0:38:01 | |
then people find it fascinating, and why can't they find these things as fascinating? | 0:38:01 | 0:38:06 | |
This is what you want to do, though, Francis, isn't it? | 0:38:06 | 0:38:09 | |
-You want to spread the word of salt and pepper shakers to the outside world. -Yes, yes, hmm. | 0:38:09 | 0:38:14 | |
'I don't know if we're going to get them in a museum, but we've got | 0:38:14 | 0:38:17 | |
'to help Francis get the recognition that he craves for his collection.' | 0:38:17 | 0:38:22 | |
I'll start racking my brains for a solution. | 0:38:22 | 0:38:24 | |
-Can't stop looking at them, can you, Francis? -No, sorry. -That's OK. | 0:38:24 | 0:38:28 | |
Getting recognition for his collection is also something that Bob would welcome. | 0:38:30 | 0:38:35 | |
His 1,500 pieces of Mason's pottery have fallen out of fashion in recent years. | 0:38:35 | 0:38:40 | |
Getting in on the act, are you? Hmm? | 0:38:40 | 0:38:43 | |
And Bob has struggled to get a good price for his excess of treasures | 0:38:43 | 0:38:46 | |
that have been kept under his caravan home. | 0:38:46 | 0:38:49 | |
I was absolutely gutted, I thought, you know, | 0:38:50 | 0:38:52 | |
that's not selling them, that's giving them away. | 0:38:52 | 0:38:55 | |
Bob has given up hope of moving them on, but we think there's a way | 0:38:55 | 0:38:58 | |
he can beat the trend and fight the cause for his collection. | 0:38:58 | 0:39:02 | |
-Today's the day, Bob, I feel it. -Good. -I feel it in my bones. | 0:39:02 | 0:39:05 | |
We have a plan, Bob, we have a plan, yes. | 0:39:05 | 0:39:08 | |
A cunning plan, Bob. | 0:39:08 | 0:39:10 | |
We're not just going to help Bob sell his crockery, | 0:39:10 | 0:39:13 | |
we're on a mission to start a mini revival in Mason's that will | 0:39:13 | 0:39:16 | |
hopefully help the long term prospects for Bob's lifelong love. | 0:39:16 | 0:39:20 | |
Off we go, Bob. | 0:39:20 | 0:39:21 | |
Mason's may be out of fashion, but vintage is very much in vogue. | 0:39:24 | 0:39:29 | |
We've got a feeling that this might twist your melon, as they say. | 0:39:29 | 0:39:34 | |
My goodness. What do you think? | 0:39:35 | 0:39:38 | |
Oh, lovely. Oh, beautiful, yes. | 0:39:38 | 0:39:40 | |
Bob's eyes are literally scouring... scouring...scouring the place. Bob, this is Vicky. | 0:39:40 | 0:39:45 | |
-Hi, Vicky. -Hi, Bob, lovely to meet you. -And you. -Thank you. | 0:39:45 | 0:39:49 | |
Vicky rents out and sells vintage tableware, | 0:39:49 | 0:39:52 | |
and this has became much more popular over the past few years. | 0:39:52 | 0:39:55 | |
Really, really fashionable at the moment, very fashionable, especially with weddings, yeah. | 0:39:55 | 0:39:59 | |
Vicky and her vintage-loving customers are exactly | 0:39:59 | 0:40:02 | |
the sort of people who could appreciate Mason's. | 0:40:02 | 0:40:04 | |
I just love the colours. | 0:40:04 | 0:40:08 | |
But she's never even so much as glanced at Mason's before. | 0:40:08 | 0:40:12 | |
Vicky, immediate reactions? | 0:40:12 | 0:40:14 | |
Wow, absolutely beautiful. The colours are stunning, yeah. Great. | 0:40:14 | 0:40:20 | |
-That's a new fan of Mason's to welcome to the fold... -Thank you. -Great. | 0:40:20 | 0:40:24 | |
..and the possibility of some future business. | 0:40:24 | 0:40:26 | |
Next, we're heading to an antiques centre to meet another potential Mason's convert. | 0:40:29 | 0:40:34 | |
We've brought you to meet Sarah, who runs this rather marvellous cafe. | 0:40:34 | 0:40:38 | |
-It is, yes. -Is it fair to call it a cafe? | 0:40:38 | 0:40:40 | |
-Tea rooms. -Tea rooms. -Vintage. Vintage tea rooms. -Yeah. | 0:40:40 | 0:40:44 | |
'Sarah's part of a growing trend in tea rooms where the big | 0:40:44 | 0:40:47 | |
'selling point is that tea tastes better in vintage china.' | 0:40:47 | 0:40:51 | |
Bob, that's something to bear in mind, your stuff will | 0:40:51 | 0:40:53 | |
actually reach a new audience and also be used and enjoyed. | 0:40:53 | 0:40:57 | |
And it's a shame for them to be in a box really, isn't it, not being appreciated. | 0:40:57 | 0:41:01 | |
It is. Exactly. Exactly, yeah. I must admit, I never thought of that. | 0:41:01 | 0:41:04 | |
-So, over 200 years of history. -Yeah. -Is it something that appeals to you? | 0:41:04 | 0:41:08 | |
-Very much so, thank you. -This could be the start of something big. | 0:41:08 | 0:41:11 | |
-Lots and lots of ceramics to sell. -That would be nice. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:14 | |
Not only has Bob tapped into a new market, but his Mason's will be | 0:41:14 | 0:41:18 | |
exposed to Sarah's vintage-loving customers too. | 0:41:18 | 0:41:20 | |
We might not have sold all of Bob's boxes, | 0:41:22 | 0:41:24 | |
but the comeback for Mason's starts here. | 0:41:24 | 0:41:27 | |
So, how do you feel, Bob? | 0:41:27 | 0:41:28 | |
Been a good day overall, I think. | 0:41:28 | 0:41:30 | |
It's certainly opened my mind to the new possibilities you've come up with. | 0:41:30 | 0:41:35 | |
I think it's a way forward, yeah. | 0:41:35 | 0:41:37 | |
Last order of the day is to let Bob know what the collection is worth on today's market. | 0:41:38 | 0:41:43 | |
-Home sweet home, Bob. -Yes, gorgeous. | 0:41:45 | 0:41:47 | |
-There they are, the dogs. -Ah, there, the doggies. -Hello, dogs. | 0:41:47 | 0:41:50 | |
The majority of Bob's collection | 0:41:52 | 0:41:54 | |
is from the desirable era of Mason's - 1800 to 1825. | 0:41:54 | 0:41:58 | |
In years gone by, even restored items in a rare pattern could fetch | 0:41:59 | 0:42:03 | |
a good price, but that's no longer the case. | 0:42:03 | 0:42:07 | |
Now only rare and desirable patterns and shapes in pristine condition | 0:42:07 | 0:42:11 | |
have kept their value, and in fact, some have increased. | 0:42:11 | 0:42:14 | |
Now, Bob, in these four books, what have we got? | 0:42:17 | 0:42:21 | |
All the information of my collection. | 0:42:21 | 0:42:24 | |
-This is your Mason's life? -It is indeed, yes. -Amazing. -Yeah. | 0:42:24 | 0:42:28 | |
But we counted through the number of pieces here | 0:42:28 | 0:42:30 | |
and we know that you've got about 1,500 pieces in your collection. | 0:42:30 | 0:42:34 | |
-Crikey. -Yep. -I would never have thought there was 1,500. | 0:42:34 | 0:42:38 | |
What Bob hasn't logged is how much the collection has cost him, | 0:42:38 | 0:42:41 | |
but he conservatively estimates he's spent around £40,000 | 0:42:41 | 0:42:46 | |
and he's preparing for the worst. | 0:42:46 | 0:42:48 | |
As you know, we had a valuer work through your collection | 0:42:48 | 0:42:51 | |
in detail, using your excellent record books as a source. | 0:42:51 | 0:42:55 | |
His opinion was that the collection would fetch, at auction, | 0:42:55 | 0:42:59 | |
somewhere in the region of £10,000 to £12,000. | 0:42:59 | 0:43:04 | |
Mm. That doesn't surprise me, yeah. It doesn't surprise me. | 0:43:04 | 0:43:10 | |
All is not lost. | 0:43:12 | 0:43:14 | |
Fortunately for Bob, auction isn't the only way to sell. | 0:43:14 | 0:43:18 | |
Our expect valuer found that Bob has collected some very rare items | 0:43:18 | 0:43:22 | |
that are fetching much better prices elsewhere. | 0:43:22 | 0:43:26 | |
Bob, we valued your collection at auction at around £10,000 to £12,000. | 0:43:26 | 0:43:30 | |
If you were to sell it in a retail environment, | 0:43:30 | 0:43:34 | |
we believe that it would fetch in the region of £28,000. | 0:43:34 | 0:43:38 | |
Crikeys! | 0:43:38 | 0:43:39 | |
That's a bit more like it. | 0:43:42 | 0:43:43 | |
Yes, that makes me feel much happier. | 0:43:43 | 0:43:45 | |
Bob has invested in some stand-out items and his pride and joy is this incredibly rare bowpot. | 0:43:47 | 0:43:53 | |
-You look very fondly upon it. -BOB LAUGHS | 0:43:54 | 0:43:58 | |
Although he paid £1,800 for it, it's kept its value because only five are known to exist. | 0:43:58 | 0:44:05 | |
I mean, that really is wonderful. | 0:44:05 | 0:44:06 | |
'We leave Bob hopefully feeling more optimistic about the future for his Mason's.' | 0:44:06 | 0:44:11 | |
-It's been a pleasure, Mel. -It's been so great. | 0:44:11 | 0:44:13 | |
-Yeah, lovely to see you. -Yeah, and good luck with it. | 0:44:13 | 0:44:15 | |
Thank you for my new-found appreciation of all things Mason's. | 0:44:15 | 0:44:18 | |
-Thank you, Bob, I'll remember that. -Yeah. -Thank you, yes. | 0:44:18 | 0:44:21 | |
I think Mark and Mel have helped with the lateral thinking. | 0:44:21 | 0:44:24 | |
I would never have thought of going to those two places, | 0:44:24 | 0:44:28 | |
thinking that they would be remotely interested in Mason's Ironstone. | 0:44:28 | 0:44:32 | |
So, hopefully, they could well have opened up another little market for me. | 0:44:32 | 0:44:36 | |
I'm heading back to the house with two rival collections in an attempt to restore harmony. | 0:44:41 | 0:44:48 | |
I need to get David on board to help me make | 0:44:48 | 0:44:50 | |
Francis's salt and pepper shakers the highlight of the house for once. | 0:44:50 | 0:44:54 | |
It would be great if David would allow us | 0:44:56 | 0:44:58 | |
to maybe pack away the pottery on the mantelpiece, if we could | 0:44:58 | 0:45:02 | |
-maybe move the television, he said redesigning your living room. -Yep. | 0:45:02 | 0:45:05 | |
David regularly organises an open house, | 0:45:07 | 0:45:09 | |
inviting Bloomsbury Group aficionados to get a closer look | 0:45:09 | 0:45:13 | |
at the collection that dominates every room. | 0:45:13 | 0:45:16 | |
Oh, you're putting them outside, you're banishing them. | 0:45:16 | 0:45:20 | |
Tonight I want the other collection in the house to have the same type of attention. | 0:45:20 | 0:45:25 | |
We have space, Francis. | 0:45:25 | 0:45:26 | |
Well, next is the extraction of the salt and pepper shakers. | 0:45:29 | 0:45:33 | |
In order to increase the profile and value of Francis's collection, it's his turn to have an open house. | 0:45:33 | 0:45:39 | |
Right, fruit and veg - over there by the dinner ware. | 0:45:39 | 0:45:43 | |
I've invited a select group of antiques experts, | 0:45:43 | 0:45:46 | |
food historians and ceramicists to take a look at the salt and peppers. | 0:45:46 | 0:45:52 | |
Francis will get such a thrill out of having his pieces all over the house, but I just... | 0:45:52 | 0:45:56 | |
I just wonder at the end whether he'll let me move them, put them back. | 0:45:56 | 0:45:59 | |
So you think the salt and pepper shakers might be there to stay for some time? | 0:45:59 | 0:46:04 | |
-I'm slightly worried, yeah. -How worried? -Slightly. | 0:46:04 | 0:46:06 | |
For our guests to understand the importance of these everyday objects, they need to understand | 0:46:07 | 0:46:13 | |
more about the historical significance. | 0:46:13 | 0:46:16 | |
Can you see that little crown mark there? | 0:46:16 | 0:46:18 | |
-Yes, yeah. -With the WG? That's early Goebel, so that's pre-war Goebel. | 0:46:18 | 0:46:22 | |
The 20th century saw a global market emerge in salt and pepper shakers. | 0:46:23 | 0:46:28 | |
Collectible manufacturers include German company Goebel, | 0:46:28 | 0:46:32 | |
the intricate designs by '50s Australian potter Jean Darbyshire, | 0:46:32 | 0:46:36 | |
and cutesy animals created by '60s American company Fitz and Floyd. | 0:46:36 | 0:46:42 | |
They look like they're huggers, but they're not. The ones with their hands put out. | 0:46:42 | 0:46:46 | |
-So they literally sort of interlock into each other? -Yeah. | 0:46:46 | 0:46:48 | |
Popular culture dominated designs in the second half of the century, but these were often made unlicensed | 0:46:48 | 0:46:54 | |
and as a result, many characters could look sometimes slightly odd. | 0:46:54 | 0:46:58 | |
-Oh, it is good to see them back out again. -Yeah? You feel excited about this? | 0:47:00 | 0:47:04 | |
Makes me feel very excited. Go on put it out. | 0:47:04 | 0:47:06 | |
The finishing touch is our research, displayed to inform our guests about the stories | 0:47:07 | 0:47:12 | |
behind these little works of art. | 0:47:12 | 0:47:14 | |
-Brilliant. -How do you think it looks? | 0:47:14 | 0:47:17 | |
I'm anxious about people coming over, because I'm afraid something might break. | 0:47:17 | 0:47:20 | |
But I'm... That's all right, that's fine, I want people to touch it, | 0:47:20 | 0:47:23 | |
I want people to handle it. Yes, that's fine. | 0:47:23 | 0:47:25 | |
The salt and pepper shakers are out, finally, in their categories. | 0:47:27 | 0:47:31 | |
I hope when people come look at it, it excites some interest. | 0:47:31 | 0:47:35 | |
It's show time and our guests are beginning to arrive. | 0:47:39 | 0:47:43 | |
These are the people who could influence the value and notoriety of Francis's collection. | 0:47:43 | 0:47:48 | |
Welcome to Francis's collection. | 0:47:50 | 0:47:53 | |
I must introduce you to Beth and Beverley, who are two of the most notable ceramics dealers in London | 0:47:53 | 0:47:59 | |
and very good friends of mine. | 0:47:59 | 0:48:00 | |
This is Helen Johannessen, who's a ceramics designer for Yoyo Ceramics. | 0:48:00 | 0:48:04 | |
This is Madeleine Marsh, who's a food historian and antiques expert. | 0:48:04 | 0:48:08 | |
How long has it taken to do this? | 0:48:08 | 0:48:11 | |
About ten years, maybe. | 0:48:12 | 0:48:13 | |
I'm really impressed that Francis is embracing this opportunity to show off his knowledge. | 0:48:14 | 0:48:20 | |
This is the '30s, up until the '80s, '90s. | 0:48:20 | 0:48:22 | |
The majority of these were made in Germany and Japan in the early and mid 20th century. | 0:48:23 | 0:48:29 | |
We hope creative minds will be stimulated by the imaginative craftsmanship. | 0:48:29 | 0:48:34 | |
So this is what's called a hanger because you have one that hangs on the other. | 0:48:34 | 0:48:37 | |
In the last ten years of designing tableware, | 0:48:37 | 0:48:39 | |
I haven't designed a salt and pepper shaker! | 0:48:39 | 0:48:41 | |
I actually feel quite inspired to perhaps go and make something. | 0:48:41 | 0:48:46 | |
But after a couple of hours, have they been won over? | 0:48:46 | 0:48:50 | |
It's the best collection I've seen for a long, long time. | 0:48:50 | 0:48:53 | |
This is such a fantastic collection. They've got such joie de vivre. | 0:48:53 | 0:48:57 | |
You have a broad smile, Francis. Are you enjoying this evening? | 0:48:59 | 0:49:02 | |
Very much so. It's just so fascinating to get feedback. | 0:49:02 | 0:49:05 | |
-So do you think this will encourage you to do more with your collection? -Oh, yes, yes. | 0:49:05 | 0:49:09 | |
I love the signs that say "The Francis Collection", | 0:49:09 | 0:49:11 | |
cos I never thought of it like that before. | 0:49:11 | 0:49:13 | |
I think... It's been great, it's fantastic. | 0:49:13 | 0:49:15 | |
The house is transformed. | 0:49:15 | 0:49:17 | |
-Do you think now that your collection is sort of more equal? -Equal. | 0:49:17 | 0:49:22 | |
It's the fact no-one mentioned anything about David's collection to me. | 0:49:22 | 0:49:25 | |
-We've changed it. -Yes, most definitely you've changed it. And thanks for that. | 0:49:25 | 0:49:31 | |
The night has been a success, and although it might be a while before salt and pepper shakers | 0:49:31 | 0:49:36 | |
are fetching record prices, there is some good news about their value. | 0:49:36 | 0:49:41 | |
I think any collector would be lying if they didn't say that there's | 0:49:41 | 0:49:45 | |
just a little bit of interest in the financial value in an item. | 0:49:45 | 0:49:49 | |
-Absolutely. -Yes, mm-hm. | 0:49:49 | 0:49:50 | |
Francis thinks he's paid around £4,000 in total for the whole collection. | 0:49:50 | 0:49:56 | |
We believe that if it was sold in an online auction environment, | 0:49:56 | 0:49:59 | |
it would fetch something in the region of £8,000 to £10,000. | 0:49:59 | 0:50:04 | |
That's quite good. I never expected it would be that much. | 0:50:06 | 0:50:10 | |
'Now it's the moment that art collector David has been waiting for.' | 0:50:10 | 0:50:14 | |
The collection of Bloomsbury Group art pottery and furniture has cost David around £60,000. | 0:50:14 | 0:50:21 | |
We've had two independent valuers look at the pension fund and they've come up with a price. | 0:50:21 | 0:50:26 | |
We believe that your collection, | 0:50:28 | 0:50:30 | |
if offered on the open market at auction, | 0:50:30 | 0:50:33 | |
would fetch around £150,000. | 0:50:33 | 0:50:36 | |
No, that... | 0:50:37 | 0:50:39 | |
No. God. | 0:50:39 | 0:50:42 | |
And our valuer has said the top end of the estimate, | 0:50:42 | 0:50:44 | |
so if they sold absolutely at their best prices, | 0:50:44 | 0:50:48 | |
you'd be looking at a value of £176,000. | 0:50:48 | 0:50:50 | |
Can I swear? | 0:50:52 | 0:50:54 | |
That's a real shock. That is a real shock. | 0:50:54 | 0:50:56 | |
Oh. Yeah. I mean, it's brilliant. | 0:50:56 | 0:50:59 | |
It's brilliant, but it is quite scary, isn't it? | 0:50:59 | 0:51:02 | |
Well, collecting is great, isn't it? | 0:51:02 | 0:51:04 | |
-Clearly. -I love it. I love it. | 0:51:04 | 0:51:07 | |
I love it. It's fantastic. | 0:51:07 | 0:51:09 | |
David has collected extremely rare items, like this Duncan Grant fan, which he says he paid £1,000 for. | 0:51:09 | 0:51:16 | |
Thought to be one of only two in the world, it could fetch up to £2,500. | 0:51:16 | 0:51:20 | |
David paid £6,000 at auction for this set of Omega Workshop chairs that he uses every day. | 0:51:21 | 0:51:27 | |
Now they're worth up to an astonishing £30,000. | 0:51:27 | 0:51:31 | |
-Thank you very much, bye-bye. -Bye-bye. | 0:51:31 | 0:51:34 | |
I think it's brought us closer as collectors somehow. | 0:51:34 | 0:51:36 | |
I even understand my collection better, but I certainly understand yours as well. | 0:51:36 | 0:51:41 | |
I can understand the value behind your collection. That's a trip to Italy. | 0:51:41 | 0:51:45 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:51:45 | 0:51:47 | |
It's not. | 0:51:47 | 0:51:49 | |
Taxidermy collector Nigel wants to crown his huge collection with a stuffed giraffe. | 0:51:51 | 0:51:57 | |
But with a home bursting at the seams with deceased beasts | 0:51:57 | 0:52:00 | |
and with wife Janice at the end of her tether, | 0:52:00 | 0:52:02 | |
Nigel must sell before he buys. | 0:52:02 | 0:52:06 | |
And the heat is on, because we now have a deadline. | 0:52:06 | 0:52:09 | |
Have you found one? | 0:52:09 | 0:52:10 | |
Yes, I have and it's reserved, subject to how well we do today. | 0:52:10 | 0:52:14 | |
And is it the whole giraffe? | 0:52:14 | 0:52:15 | |
No, it's shoulder, neck and head, because that's 9' 6" high. | 0:52:15 | 0:52:18 | |
So, Janice, this is... this is good, isn't it? | 0:52:18 | 0:52:20 | |
-I mean, this could thin out. -Well, yes, yes, it's going in the right direction. | 0:52:20 | 0:52:24 | |
Well, we haven't sold it all yet. | 0:52:24 | 0:52:25 | |
We might be lucky and take some home. | 0:52:25 | 0:52:28 | |
-Busy day ahead. -Yes, hope so anyway. -We hope so. | 0:52:28 | 0:52:31 | |
We need to sell £6,000 worth of taxidermy fast, | 0:52:33 | 0:52:37 | |
and I think we're in the perfect place. | 0:52:37 | 0:52:39 | |
We're here at Spitalfields Market, which I feel is | 0:52:39 | 0:52:42 | |
a sort of fantastic area for selling to a new buyer for taxidermy, a sort | 0:52:42 | 0:52:46 | |
of younger buyer in many instances, who are using these pieces.. | 0:52:46 | 0:52:49 | |
-Yeah, trendy. It is now, isn't it? Trendy. -That's it. | 0:52:49 | 0:52:51 | |
I don't want to be trendy, I've never been trendy in my life. | 0:52:51 | 0:52:54 | |
Nigel, you are the epicentre of trendy. | 0:52:54 | 0:52:56 | |
-No, I'm not, no, no, no. -With that hat, come on. -No. | 0:52:56 | 0:52:58 | |
HORN BLOWS | 0:53:00 | 0:53:02 | |
-Open for business. Sale on. -BLOWS HORN | 0:53:02 | 0:53:04 | |
The artistic types that frequent this part of town don't | 0:53:04 | 0:53:07 | |
follow trends, they set them, and taxidermy is in vogue. | 0:53:07 | 0:53:11 | |
I love the Bambi. Fell in love with it. | 0:53:11 | 0:53:15 | |
And, it seems, not just for the home. | 0:53:15 | 0:53:17 | |
You're going to sew it on the back of a coat? | 0:53:17 | 0:53:19 | |
-Yeah, potentially, I don't know whether it's too heavy. -Today is a two-pronged attack. | 0:53:19 | 0:53:24 | |
While Janice and I man the stall... £125. | 0:53:24 | 0:53:27 | |
Nigel and I are off to the pub to see two men about a dog, | 0:53:28 | 0:53:31 | |
a cockerel, a ram's head and a crocodile. Here we go. Hello. | 0:53:31 | 0:53:35 | |
-Hello, hello. -Nice to see you. This is Nigel. -Hello. | 0:53:35 | 0:53:38 | |
Kevin and Fraser are owners of this trendy gastropub. | 0:53:38 | 0:53:42 | |
It's just one of a growing number that are using | 0:53:42 | 0:53:44 | |
taxidermy as an eye-catching ploy to pull in the punters. | 0:53:44 | 0:53:47 | |
Wow, Nigel, this is pretty amazing, isn't it? | 0:53:49 | 0:53:53 | |
Wow, I've got some competition. | 0:53:53 | 0:53:55 | |
Can I just ask you, two lovely young chaps as you are... | 0:53:55 | 0:53:59 | |
-Why, thank you. -What got you into taxidermy? | 0:53:59 | 0:54:01 | |
It started off by picking up furniture for the pubs, | 0:54:01 | 0:54:03 | |
because a lot of the furniture is relatively old. | 0:54:03 | 0:54:06 | |
So we bought pieces | 0:54:06 | 0:54:08 | |
and then the same people who sell that had the odd piece of taxidermy. | 0:54:08 | 0:54:12 | |
-Yes, but it's interesting, isn't it, the aesthetic of a pub is sort of leather, wood... -Yeah. | 0:54:12 | 0:54:16 | |
-And...and... -Yeah. -Fits in with the area, doesn't it? | 0:54:16 | 0:54:19 | |
-Taxidermy seems to fit in with it, doesn't it? -Yeah. | 0:54:19 | 0:54:21 | |
It's become a much more popular thing for pubs to do. | 0:54:21 | 0:54:24 | |
Jays always come in pairs and I've got a jay. | 0:54:25 | 0:54:28 | |
-So this would make up your pair. -Yeah. | 0:54:28 | 0:54:30 | |
-Do they look like they might get on? -Maybe. | 0:54:30 | 0:54:32 | |
-How much are they? -£125. | 0:54:32 | 0:54:36 | |
-Look at that. -That's a head. | 0:54:36 | 0:54:39 | |
Every single piece, of course, is unique. | 0:54:39 | 0:54:43 | |
-Wow, they're real. -They're real, exactly, this is the real deal. | 0:54:43 | 0:54:46 | |
-Last piece. Ram's head. -A ram's head. | 0:54:46 | 0:54:49 | |
-Lovely. -Are they speaking to you? | 0:54:49 | 0:54:51 | |
-They're staring at me. -Yeah, that one is! -Every single one. | 0:54:51 | 0:54:54 | |
-Will you do them for £80? -So what are we looking at? | 0:54:54 | 0:54:57 | |
The fighting cock I was hoping for sort of £600 to £650. | 0:54:57 | 0:55:00 | |
Well, that about £500, | 0:55:00 | 0:55:02 | |
that £295 and that, I think, is an absolute steal at £250. | 0:55:02 | 0:55:05 | |
-£100. -OK. Yeah, fine. -Yeah? OK. | 0:55:05 | 0:55:09 | |
If we said £1,500 for the lot? | 0:55:09 | 0:55:11 | |
I think in this pocket I might only have about £1,250. | 0:55:11 | 0:55:15 | |
What time does the pub open? Because we can wait for you to take some money. | 0:55:15 | 0:55:18 | |
I want to take care of Bambino. | 0:55:18 | 0:55:21 | |
-Excellent. -Great. | 0:55:21 | 0:55:23 | |
-I'll shake hands at £1,450. -He's merciless. | 0:55:23 | 0:55:25 | |
We haven't brought rubbish, we've brought good stuff. | 0:55:25 | 0:55:28 | |
-Yeah, you have a deal. Thank you very much. -Thank you very much. Lovely. | 0:55:28 | 0:55:31 | |
-£110 cash. -OK, that's brilliant. Thank you very much. | 0:55:31 | 0:55:34 | |
-That's fine, all right. -£50 it is. | 0:55:34 | 0:55:36 | |
-Thank you, I wish you all the best with the... -Excellent work. | 0:55:36 | 0:55:39 | |
-Hope they keep your business going well. -I hope it keeps you nice and warm. -Yeah, I guess so. | 0:55:39 | 0:55:43 | |
I'd like to see him when he's finished it. | 0:55:43 | 0:55:45 | |
-Perhaps he'll send us a photograph. -Cutlass in hand. -Yes. | 0:55:45 | 0:55:48 | |
We need to have a little tot-up. You two first. | 0:55:52 | 0:55:55 | |
-£1,450. -£1,450 for the four. -Yeah. -OK, Janice, how did we do? | 0:55:55 | 0:55:59 | |
We're up to £450. | 0:55:59 | 0:56:01 | |
-So that's.. -£1,900. -Just shy of two grand. | 0:56:01 | 0:56:03 | |
-Good day out. -Come on. -Yeah. | 0:56:03 | 0:56:05 | |
-That's a third of the giraffe. -Good day out. -It is, yeah. -That's legs, tail and left flank. | 0:56:05 | 0:56:09 | |
-Yeah, that's right, yeah. -Other than that it's a head and shoulder mount. | 0:56:09 | 0:56:12 | |
-That's pretty good though, isn't it? -It's brilliant. -That's exciting. | 0:56:12 | 0:56:15 | |
-We had a good day out and we have taken some money. -Yeah. | 0:56:15 | 0:56:18 | |
After a hard day selling, we might not have raised enough | 0:56:21 | 0:56:24 | |
for Nigel's giraffe, but perhaps we can still give him | 0:56:24 | 0:56:27 | |
some good news with the valuation of his collection. | 0:56:27 | 0:56:30 | |
Can you remind us how much you paid for your collection? | 0:56:30 | 0:56:33 | |
£100,000. | 0:56:33 | 0:56:35 | |
-£100,000. £100,000? -Mm. | 0:56:35 | 0:56:38 | |
Our valuers put a price on the head of each of his 500-plus animals | 0:56:38 | 0:56:43 | |
and it's time to share the tally with Nigel. | 0:56:43 | 0:56:46 | |
Your collection of taxidermy is worth around £175,000. | 0:56:46 | 0:56:51 | |
-LAUGHS -Well done. -Lovely. -Brilliant stuff. | 0:56:51 | 0:56:56 | |
There's more news than that. | 0:56:56 | 0:56:58 | |
Our valuer feels that if you are able to sell them | 0:56:58 | 0:57:00 | |
at the height of their market, the top end of the estimate range he gave us was just over £210,000. | 0:57:00 | 0:57:06 | |
Oh, blimey! | 0:57:07 | 0:57:08 | |
Amongst Nigel's collection are some ferociously good investments. | 0:57:11 | 0:57:15 | |
This sought after Rowland Ward leopard posing on a branch was bought for £2,000. | 0:57:15 | 0:57:20 | |
It's now worth up to £5,000. | 0:57:21 | 0:57:24 | |
And Nigel's unforgettable centrepiece, one of only a handful in the country, | 0:57:24 | 0:57:28 | |
the nine foot standing polar bear. | 0:57:28 | 0:57:31 | |
It originally cost £6,000 but could now fetch a cool £15,000. | 0:57:31 | 0:57:36 | |
I'm delighted with the result, | 0:57:36 | 0:57:37 | |
but it's actually the future that's the most exciting aspect to me. | 0:57:37 | 0:57:41 | |
These things are just beginning to be appreciated by a new audience. | 0:57:41 | 0:57:45 | |
-Chosen well, Nigel, haven't you? -Hmm, it's been worthwhile then, hasn't it? -You've bought well. | 0:57:45 | 0:57:49 | |
-Excellent. -So, Nigel, Janice, thank you so much for letting us loose on your collection. | 0:57:49 | 0:57:55 | |
'Having left Dr Doolittle with less animals that do little, | 0:57:56 | 0:58:00 | |
'we've also helped his wife Janice win back part of her home. | 0:58:00 | 0:58:03 | |
'Not bad for a day's work.' | 0:58:03 | 0:58:05 | |
-Mark. Do you realise you've got a skunk on your head? -Where? | 0:58:05 | 0:58:10 | |
Next week, the man who's had to buy the house next door to house his collection, but still has no room. | 0:58:12 | 0:58:18 | |
Not more than 2cm apart. | 0:58:18 | 0:58:20 | |
-Ah, it goes on forever. -Where? | 0:58:20 | 0:58:22 | |
The Star Wars fanatic with the 35,000 piece collection. | 0:58:22 | 0:58:25 | |
-I've threatened him with skips before. -It has gotten out of hand. | 0:58:25 | 0:58:28 | |
And the woman who will be blown away by the value. | 0:58:28 | 0:58:31 | |
You're joking? Really? | 0:58:31 | 0:58:32 |