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-From art...

-To antiques.

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Ceramics to signs.

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-Taxidermy...

-To toys.

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-From the common...

-To the curious.

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We're a nation of collectors.

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Follow me, Mel Giedroyc.

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And me, antiques expert and lifelong collector, Mark Hill.

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As we go behind closed doors

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to uncover Britain's secret collections.

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And reveal what they're really worth, with surprising results.

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-Collecting and curating.

-Selling and displaying.

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-For collectaholics everywhere.

-We're here to help.

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Oh, good God!

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'On Collectaholics, we'll be delving into the extraordinary

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'collections that have taken over people's lives.'

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I've never seen so many signs.

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'Swallowing up their space and using up their income.'

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-What's the most expensive piece you've bought?

-It'd be sort of £8,000 to £10,000.

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'And pushing their relationships to the very edge.'

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It's this room and that's it.

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'I'll be helping our collectors deal with their collections in crisis.'

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-Could I possibly call it an obsession?

-It is bordering on that.

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'And I'll be finding out what drives them to buy and buy and buy.'

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Do you think this is what your collection's all about, Shirley, that one original doll?

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'This week, the man whose buying habit is so extreme,

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'he had to buy the property next door to house it all.'

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I know very quickly whether I like a piece or not.

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'But he still needs more room.'

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A lot of the artwork is not more than sort of 2cm apart.

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-Argh! It goes on for ever!

-Where?

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'The Star Wars fanatic with a 35,000-piece collection

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'that's taken over his entire house.'

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I've threatened him with skips before.

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One day he will push me too far if he doesn't change.

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It has gotten out of hand.

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They literally are everywhere, Shirley.

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'And the woman who shares her home with a family of 300.'

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I just like to take care of them.

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'And we'll be blown away to discover what they're all worth.'

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-Oh, my days.

-You're joking? Really?

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Our first stop is Cambridgeshire,

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to meet 57-year-old music teacher Graham.

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So, Mark, an exciting day. We've got the sun

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and we've got modern prints.

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We have indeed.

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In the past, Graham's excessive buying has forced him to take drastic action.

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To house his expanding collection, he bought the house next door.

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I think collecting has become an obsession.

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It's a very pleasant obsession.

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It's a hobby in the most compelling

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and possibly compulsive way of looking at it.

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But, despite all those extra walls,

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every inch of space is covered by his 350-piece collection.

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If he's going to live for another 20, 30 or 40 more years collecting,

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not quite sure how we're going to fit everything in.

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It's almost like an addiction.

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Graham's obsession is with modern original prints.

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They're hugely popular and I love them so I can't wait to see inside.

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-Hi, are you Graham?

-Come in, yes.

-Hi, I'm Mel and this is Mark.

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-Hello, Graham, nice to meet you.

-Hi, Mark. Please come in.

-Thank you very much, thank you.

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Right, please come through.

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-Whoa...

-Oh, God.

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Is it a house or is it a gallery?

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-It goes on.

-It's both.

-It's a cornucopia of colour.

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And it literally... It moves everywhere in the house.

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The whole of Graham's house,

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every single room, every nook and cranny,

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has got some part of his art collection in it.

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(There are so many.)

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It's absolutely everywhere.

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'With so many different pieces, it's totally overwhelming.'

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It does look slightly as if you are running out of wall space.

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Now Graham's 40-year compulsion has left him facing a crisis.

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Graham, you're not going to stop collecting,

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you have a finite amount of space.

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-How are you going to deal with that?

-Er, probably buy ever smaller pieces,

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or move it even closer together,

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although even that's becoming a bit of a challenge.

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'Buying another house isn't an option,

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'so we need to find a solution.'

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'Graham thinks he's spent more than £50,000 feeding his passion for art.

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'So we'll also be getting a valuation to find out how much it's all worth.'

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'Has he got a good eye?

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'It's impossible to tell with this wallpaper of art.

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'Time to take a closer inspection.'

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I haven't got a huge amount of abstract act,

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but Bridget Riley's vibrant colours and lines are fascinating to me.

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Now, this is very familiar. It's a Kandinsky?

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-It is a Kandinsky, yes.

-Oh, you're getting good!

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I've often bought artwork as a sort of souvenir.

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Artwork has been acquired because I wanted a record of something

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that affected my life at that particular moment.

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How long has it taken you to collect all of these?

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Well, I can remember exactly when I collected my first piece.

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It was 1975 in the church where I was organist.

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I was a student in Manchester. And it cost me £18.

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It seems to me, Graham, as if a lot of different styles kind of draw you in.

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I know very quickly whether I like a piece or not.

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-How do you know?

-It's a gut reaction.

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It's an emotional impulse.

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But as the collection becomes more serious,

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then you do start looking for more specific examples of pieces,

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either the same artist or a completely different artist,

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that will actually go with the collection as it exists.

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This one looks interesting. Who's this by?

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Paula Rego. Her work has become very desirable

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and, not surprisingly, also very expensive.

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So I was very pleased to get an early print of hers.

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'Rego's work often uses folk tales from her native Portugal

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'to create images with a dark and sometimes political edge.

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'A prolific artist, her precise and linear drawing lends itself

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'to the techniques of printing.'

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How do prints actually work?

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Print is an actual art form in its own right.

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A number of artists are actually exclusively printmakers,

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and prints can start from what's called a mono-print

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where there is only one,

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and of course they are comparatively expensive,

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through to limited-edition runs.

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'Known in the art world as original prints,

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'they're not reproductions of existing art work.

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'They are the art themselves, always conceived as a print.'

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And what did you pay for this, Graham?

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Well, I managed to get... buy that for under £400.

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So, Graham, I know that you think you might have spent about £50,000 on the collection?

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-As far as I can even begin to get my mind round...

-OK.

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..30-plus years of collecting, nearly 40 years of collecting.

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OK. Mark, would that seem like a...

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I think...I think a little bit of an underestimate there.

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When it comes to the value of the collection, what do you reckon?

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Well, if I can't even work out how much I've paid for it,

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the chances of working out what it's worth are even more unlikely!

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We'll be valuing his collection to find out if he's spent wisely.

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And with not an inch of wall space left, action is desperately needed

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to find a way for Graham to continue collecting.

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Limited-edition prints exploded in popularity

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after the Second World War, in the '50s,

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largely because people had money to spare for the first time in decades.

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They'd recovered from the effects of the war and wanted to buy status,

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and prints were an affordable way to put big-name artists on your wall.

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Director of the London Original Print Fair Helen Rosslyn has come

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to meet me at an art gallery to explain the magic of print-making.

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I think what's so lovely is that some of the real iconic images

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that we recognise are prints.

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Swimming pool, it's got to be Hockney. Am I right?

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-It's Hockney, you're right.

-Come on.

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Do certain artists lend themselves

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better to the print-making process, do you think?

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Well, I think certain artists lend themselves to

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certain techniques, yes.

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-These are absolutely massive.

-Aren't they?

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And that's what's so spectacular, because these Bacon lithographs...

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-Francis Bacon?

-Yes, Francis Bacon.

-And they're actual prints?

-Yes.

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You would think being this size that they're paintings, but they're not, they're prints.

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And this one's a great illustration of the fact that print-making's not

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-just contemporary prints, cos this is Picasso.

-Picasso, wow.

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Yes, and he, again, was a master of the techniques of print-making.

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This is an etching,

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-and you can see actually because etching is done on copper plate...

-Right.

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..and you can see the indentation

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where the plate sits on the paper, what's called a plate-mark.

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They're cheaper, aren't they, than buying, obviously, a Picasso oil painting?

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They're cheaper. It's often called a democratic art form,

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and I think that's a reason why a lot of artists do make prints.

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'Although this print would still set you back more than £50,000.'

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Prints by big names like Picasso can fetch eye-watering prices.

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His weeping woman recently sold at Christie's

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for a staggering 5.1 million.

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'Prints are big business.

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'Helen's brought me to meet printmaker Bob Sachse

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'at a graphic studio to see the process in action.'

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The interesting thing about prints is there are probably really

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five main printing techniques, of which this is one,

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screen printing, and screen printing, really, is the most modern of the processes.

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-(I used a potato print to get into Glastonbury festival once.)

-Did you?

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Potato print, boom, on the hand. Straight in.

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'Most American artists from the Pop Art era of the '60s,

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'such as Andy Warhol and Roy Lichtenstein,

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'favoured the screen-printing method,

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'and Bob here has been making prints with established artists

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'for 45 years.'

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What I'm doing here at the moment is I'm just putting another colour

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on this Basil Beattie edition that we've been working on recently,

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and the process is basically a colour at a time,

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a sheet of paper at a time.

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Bob, it strikes me that you are the man doing the kind of...

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the donkey work. Not the donkey work, but you're doing

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ALL the work, essentially.

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It's more of a collaboration really. The artist is the key factor,

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as far as it's their image and how they do it.

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What we do is just try and facilitate the best way of producing that image.

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-But don't underplay your role.

-Exactly.

-It's the technical know-how.

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If you look over there, you can see a list.

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This looks to me as if it's all the stages of the printing

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-you've already done, on this...

-Yes.

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-There are 23 steps here, Bob.

-23 steps, yeah.

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-And is that going to be from start to finish on Basil's picture?

-Yes. Yeah.

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-So that's incredibly laborious, though, isn't it?

-Exactly.

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'Bob uses a sheet of acetate

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'to ensure every print is placed perfectly.

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'Each print in this run of 75 is placed under the screen

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'in exactly the same place, before a layer of paint is added.'

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So, there we go, that's the first layer of the blue.

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That is so cool.

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What's amazing about it, though, is the actual quality.

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It looks as if it's been drawn.

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Because it's a layering process, a lot of artists are always

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-looking for thickness and texture and weight of colour.

-Right.

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And that's something that the screen process can give.

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-Now you've seen the whole process, I really want you to see...

-Ooh.

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..the final print and how it's going to be.

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-Look at that. Isn't it beautiful?

-(Oh, wow.)

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'So there we have it, an original print.'

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Isn't that beautiful? So the penny is slightly dropping.

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Each of those 75 prints have been through the 23 steps.

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-That's correct, yeah.

-Which makes each an original artwork,

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-essentially, doesn't it?

-Yes.

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They look the same but each has gone through the process and the work.

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Exactly, which is why we call them original prints.

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Our next stop is London, where an ordinary family house

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is hiding a very extraordinary collection.

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Star Wars is the ultimate story of good versus evil

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and good overcoming evil.

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It's the ultimate film for people of my generation.

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But 41-year-old father-of-three James has taken it to the extreme.

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This is James's collection, an estimated 35,000 Star Wars pieces,

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all hidden inside piles of brown boxes.

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It's a bit of a shock to the system when anyone walks in

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and sees how much collection he's actually got.

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Wife Sarah and their three children, Daniel, Yoni and Miriam

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are literally living in a Star Wars storage facility.

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The only rooms which it's really not in

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are the bathrooms and the kitchen.

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-There are a lot of figures.

-Star Wars Lego.

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-There are lightsabers.

-About 10 or 12 of those.

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-Gentle giant busts.

-Signed pieces.

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-Life-size props.

-Got R2KT in Miriam's room.

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And it's like an Aladdin's Cave.

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It is so chock-a-block.

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It's like Moscow at rush hour.

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We're very much a Star Wars family. I just wish he didn't have so much of it.

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'As a collector myself, I can sympathise with the temptation

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'to buy and buy and buy, but James's collection is out of control.'

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'So, Mark and I are coming to help James and Sarah find a way to live

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'WITH the collection rather than under it.'

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-Hey there.

-Hello.

-Hello. Are you James?

-Yes.

-Hi, I'm Mel.

-Hi, nice to meet you.

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Hello, James, good to meet you. Go forth!

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Oh...my...days.

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-Do you actually know what's in there?

-Yes.

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-Every single thing?

-Pretty much.

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I don't believe you. You can't possibly...

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How long did it take to fill this room?

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'Despite two extensions built to house it all,

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'the 35,000-piece collection has still engulfed the family home.'

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-Argh! It goes on for ever.

-Where?

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Mark, come and have a look, get your head round.

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-How can you get to the stuff that's in here?

-I can't. Obviously.

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So, why? What's it all doing there?

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'And, worryingly, the boxes don't stop here.'

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-B-bedroom. Is it a bed...?

-There's a bed in here?!

-Does somebody sleep in it?

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'The kids' bedrooms are under siege as well.'

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-Right, OK. Who...who lives here?

-Daniel, my eldest.

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There's more Star Wars than Daniel.

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This takes over the whole space, this takes over THEM.

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-I mean, this is their bedroom. My bedroom was my lair, it was my cave, it was my home.

-Yeah.

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You know, and all of a sudden, there's Dad's stuff!

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'I can honestly say I've never seen anything like this.

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'Sarah must be a saint.

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'Or she's just not putting her foot down.'

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Is it difficult to see the collection taking over your children's lives as well?

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They're going to be Star Wars fans. They didn't really have a choice in that.

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It was inevitable!

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But I do worry about the impact it has because they...they don't have normal bedrooms.

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They have boxes of Star Wars stuff and it's not normal,

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and I do worry about the effect.

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'This is amassing, not collecting.'

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-Ooh!

-Now, what I've got in this room, at the back there is a replica

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of that, and it's signed, it's got a plaque that's signed by Mark Hamill.

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-And that, you can't even get to?

-I can't get to it.

-James, that's ridiculous.

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That's a key piece of memorabilia, that should be on display somewhere.

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'So, how did it get so bad?

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'James first began collecting when he was just seven years old,

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'but as a teenager, his collection didn't survive.'

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My parents got divorced in '86,

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and...unfortunately my dad destroyed all of my Star Wars collection.

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I'm sure he had his reasons because he was clearing out the house

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and it was just one of those things.

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I'm really sort of quite intrigued by what happened.

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I mean, your father threw away your collection?

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Extensibly, yes, so when I got our stuff back, it wasn't there,

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and I didn't speak to my father for a few years.

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'They've since made up but it was a difficult time for 16-year-old James.'

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It was obviously a very, very painful experience, um...

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that still is, you know... still hurts me today.

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Um...but that's life. You get on with it, pick yourself up,

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dust yourself off and carry on as best you can.

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Do you think this is part of the reason why you're just amassing everything?

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They're your items, it's your collection, you've got the control of it all.

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There's obviously something like that that's harking me back.

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'James didn't begin collecting again for another ten years.'

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I was in Southgate and there was an antique shop there which had some vintage figures in the window,

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and I went and bought him an Ewok, and it was just one Ewok.

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That sort of re-sparked

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something that was laying dormant for many years.

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I don't know how much he's spent. I don't want to ask.

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So, how would you like the house to change?

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What would you like to see happening to your house?

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I would like one room, which would house his collection.

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I do appreciate the fact that it has gotten out of hand.

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I need there to be some commitment from him that...

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when we get the house in order, and it has to be a when, not an if,

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cos I've threatened him with skips before and, it, you know...

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One day he will push me too far. This is a family home not a museum.

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If he keeps it all in boxes, he might as well just throw it

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all away cos it's just sitting there and doing nothing.

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'There's more at stake here than just the collection

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'and something needs to change.'

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You're not playing with it, you're not opening it up, you're not handling the actual goods inside.

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And, aesthetically,

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-you're not really getting a lot out of it either.

-No.

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So kind of on both fronts it seems as if...

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It's a waste at the moment.

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-It's a waste.

-Oh, James, that seems too harsh, though.

-We need to do something better.

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Well...at the moment it's a pile of boxes and it's not really a lot more.

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Your home is a storage facility with boxes piled up into it.

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You need to turn it back into a home.

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'Unable to see it, this collection is pointless.

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'Not least because James has hit upon one of the world's most popular collectibles.

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'Star Wars merchandise is not only big business,

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'it's also earned its very own place in history.'

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Whether you're a Luke Skywalker, Han Solo or Princess Leia fan,

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there are hardly any of us that haven't seen a Star Wars film.

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It's one of the most famous film franchises of all time.

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However, it's not just the movies that made big bucks.

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'Since their first appearance in 1977,

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'the films have revolutionised the toy industry.'

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Movie tie-ins had been around since the very earliest days of cinema.

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As stars of the silver screen gained popularity and notoriety,

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theatres could purchase items such as pillow cases with

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photographs of the stars to give away to or sell to the public.

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And then, of course, there was Walt Disney and his big star, Mickey Mouse.

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'But by the time Star Wars came along in the late '70s,

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'the big toy companies had all but given up on movie memorabilia

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'and simply weren't interested in making Star Wars toys.'

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Even the distributors 20th Century Fox had no faith

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in the virtues of merchandising, or even in the films themselves.

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'In one of Hollywood's most famous deals,

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'George Lucas agreed to a reduced salary in exchange

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'for 40% of box office takings and all the merchandising rights.

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'Lucas joined forces with toy manufacturers Kenner

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to produce a range of Star Wars figures.

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'It was a partnership that would prove to be an enormous success.'

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The marketing team initially

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had thought about producing a 12-inch figure,

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so very much like GI Joe in America an Action Man over here in the UK.

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However they very quickly realised that a 12-inch Han Solo

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would require a five-foot Millennium Falcon.

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They then turned to the president of Kenner, Bernie Loomis.

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His response was this -

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three and three quarter inches.

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It was the new size of figure which kept manufacturing costs down,

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and that meant everybody could afford a little piece of Star Wars.

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And that was important for children and, of course, their parents,

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because, as well as aiming to collect the entire set,

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you could let your imagination run wild as you acted out

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your favourite scenes from the films.

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It was a whole new way to play, and today

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the three-and-three-quarter-inch figure is very much the industry standard.

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Lucas and his friends had surprised everyone

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and surpassed all expectation.

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The marketing strategy and production of such a vast range

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of toys turned many a young boy into a collector.

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Driven by nostalgia, prices for these early vintage

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Star Wars pieces can be stratospheric.

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A set of the 12 original figures,

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mint on card and in exceptional condition,

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recently sold at auction for over £12,000.

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As of 2012, the Star Wars films have generated an estimated

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4.4 billion in ticket sales, but that's compared

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to an estimated 20 billion worth of merchandising sales.

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Star Wars didn't just tell us about the exploits of an empire,

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it created an empire.

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And our next collector has created her very own empire.

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We've come to meet a woman who's worried about the future

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of her collection and has no idea of its true value.

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KNOCKING

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-Hello.

-Hello, pleased to meet you.

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-Are you Shirley?

-Yes.

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'And for grandma Shirley it's a very large collection.'

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Wow.

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They literally are everywhere, Shirley.

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Goodness me! How many have you got?

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I've got 73 prams and I've got approximately 300 dolls.

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-73 prams.

-Prams.

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Where are the other...65?

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-You'll see them in a minute.

-Right, OK.

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Shirley can't stop buying dolls, and has done so since her childhood.

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They now fill six rooms of her home.

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I don't smoke, I don't drink and I don't go out with men.

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SHE LAUGHS

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So that's my hobby.

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There's something very odd going on with the eyelids on this one.

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Yeah, she moves, her eyes move.

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I just like to take care of them,

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I always feel sorry for a doll if it's battered about.

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I feel like I want to take it home and look after it.

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Hello, little ones.

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You look very at home there, I do have to say.

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THEY LAUGH

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'But now 69-year-old Shirley is facing a problem

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'all collectors will have to deal with at some point.

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'What happens to your collection after you've gone?'

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I am concerned about the future.

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If I sort of kick the bucket and go, like,

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what's going to happen to them?

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Who's going to look after them and do the necessary?

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'This is Shirley's life's work and passion.

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'She wants to pass the dolls on to her grandchildren

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'but they have no idea

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'what to do with them or even what they're worth.'

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How much do you think you've spent in your 50 years as a collector?

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-I don't know.

-Ah-ha.

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Look at this little cluster!

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'This is a collection that demands an extensive valuation.

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'Until we know what it's all worth,

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'we can't help Shirley decide what its future should be.'

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'50s dolls, hard plastic dolls,

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-are really coming into their own at the moment.

-Oh, really?

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And I think perhaps that's partly to do with nostalgia.

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-I think we like to collect toys that we had as children.

-Yes.

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And maybe it's a generation now collecting the dolls

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-of the '50s that they had when they were younger.

-Ah.

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You could be talking sort of up to a couple of hundred pounds.

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-Really?

-But it needs a little bit more work on that.

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'What I really want to know, though, is how do you go from buying

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'a few dolls to owning a collection of more than 300?'

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Did you have one specific doll as a child

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that you were very attached to?

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My first doll I ever had, my mum bought me,

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and I idolised that doll.

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I came home from school one day and she'd gone,

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and my mum told me that she'd given it to a family

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who lived over the road who had about seven or eight children,

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and a few days later I saw the doll

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and it was just smashed to bits in the garden.

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-Oh, Shirley, no!

-Shirley, stop it.

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Yeah, I know.

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Do you think this is what your collection's all about, Shirley?

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It's the search to find that one original doll

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-that was taken away from you?

-Maybe subconsciously.

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-Shirley, onwards. I can't bear this.

-Absolutely.

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-Onwards, please.

-Show us some more.

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Oh...my...days.

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You sleep in this room with the dolls?

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-This is my bedroom.

-This is your bedroom.

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This is like a car park of..

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-A pram park.

-Isn't it?

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'I have to say, I'm blown away and, if I'm being honest,

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'(a little bit spooked.)'

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Sorry, one of them is actually staring at me quite intensely.

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-No, I can't look at him!

-Now look what you've started.

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Shirley, be my buffer, please be my buffer.

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'Shirley is a collectaholic in every sense of the word.

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'As her grandchildren, Lucia and James, know only too well.'

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How does it work in reality?

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Every time she goes to an antiques fair

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she will say to me on the phone, "I am not buying no prams,

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"I'm not buying no dolls, I'm going to look."

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You ring her up that evening, "Nan, what did you buy?"

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"I bought two dolls and a pram."

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-Ah. Oh, no!

-SHE LAUGHS

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I remember going to these fairs with her

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and putting the back seats down, trying to fit the pram in the back.

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Put three prams in the back and... SHIRLEY GIGGLES

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Yeah, with all the dolls and...

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If I say, "James, there's an antique fair coming soon."

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"No, no, I'm not coming, don't ask me." THEY LAUGH

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'When the time comes, Shirley's grandchildren

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'have no idea what to do with the collection.'

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They did say when I kick the bucket

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that they're going to stick 'em on eBay.

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Are you daunted by the prospect

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that you're going to have this huge collection to deal with?

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I wouldn't know where to start.

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-Really?

-Really.

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Internet.

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-Internet?

-Online auctions.

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-I'm joking.

-Listen, she doesn't want that.

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No, I know, she wants them to go to loving homes and...

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I think she'd haunt me if I done that.

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That was the first doll like that that my mum bought for me.

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'I mean, I think it is fair to say that it's something

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'that seems to worry Shirley a bit isn't, it?

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'If you collect something,'

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if you've got a passion for something and you love something so much

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then obviously you're not going to want that thing

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to get damaged or hurt,

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so obviously that's when her feelings come into play.

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It would be nice in a way to kind of find

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some options for her, wouldn't it?

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Yeah, keep her mind at rest.

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It would be nice to have, like, a plan so it all goes smoothly.

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Well, hopefully we can help.

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-Yeah, sounds brilliant.

-Yeah, good.

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'Getting everything valued is the first step to giving Shirley

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'the peace of mind she's longing for.'

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'And it's becoming clear that Shirley has no idea

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'just how much it's all worth.'

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-She's probably worth £150, £250 I would think.

-Yeah?

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Art collector Graham is facing a crisis -

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how to keep collecting when he's run out of wall space.

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We've brought him to London to a very special house indeed.

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This was once the home of 19th century architect Sir John Soane.

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Something of a collector himself, Soane created this house,

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with its picturesque and poetic interiors, to inspire amateurs

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and students in architecture, painting and sculpture.

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It was his gift to the nation.

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Welcome to Sir John Soane's picture room.

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Wow. Good heavens. Absolutely astonishing.

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John Soane built this room in 1824, when he was 71,

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to house his enormous and growing collection of pictures.

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This room is not all that it seems Graham,

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-there's a bit of an optical illusion in here.

-Right.

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Cos he had a lot more pictures to deal with than

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the ones you can just see hanging up.

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'Soane was immensely proud of his use of large moveable planes

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'to maximise hanging options.'

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Good heavens, yes, this is the perfect solution,

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I shall have one of these constructed as soon as I get home.

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-More of them?

-Yep.

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In fact, the whole room has doors that open up to hold more pictures.

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How clever.

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It's like a sort of gigantic advent calendar.

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THEY LAUGH

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'The effect was such that this 13 by 12 foot space

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'is actually capable of displaying as many pictures

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'as a gallery of 20 by 45 feet.'

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It's just absolutely amazing,

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just how you can show everything off quite so easily.

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I think it's ingenious.

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Housing works by great artists such as Canaletto,

0:28:480:28:51

Turner and Hogarth, it's said that Soane used more

0:28:510:28:55

than 704 books of gold leaf to gild their frames.

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Do you feel a sort of connection across the centuries

0:29:000:29:03

with this extraordinary collector?

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Yes, I think there are...

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There's a strange vibe about all this,

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because you can see the same single-mindedness

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and the same joy of collecting and the same pleasure,

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to get it on the wall so that others can enjoy it, as well.

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Can you see yourself, Graham, doing something similar?

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-It is food for thought, isn't it?

-And for the eyes.

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It's going to happen.

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-It's going to happen, Graham.

-It'd be a feast.

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'Recreating Sir John Soane's picture room is a touch ambitious,

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'but I think it's perfect inspiration

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'for a collection as jam-packed as Graham's.

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'So I've brought in builder Stewart to see what's possible.'

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What areas are we looking at?

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Well, Graham, what do you think?

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Well, it's where you can actually hinge some of these partitions

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on which you can then hang additional pieces.

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We can certainly do something within here.

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Just looking at it, perhaps a sliding door there,

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so you could hang art this side and from that side.

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-Right.

-As well as, you know, making the most of that wall.

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What were you thinking, Graham, in terms of

0:30:100:30:12

where it will be in the house?

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Well, I'm still trying to get my mind around the concept in any shape.

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'It's a lot for Graham to take on board.'

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How many pictures would you want to put on?

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We're looking at one, two, three...

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About half a dozen on either side,

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so you're looking at another dozen pictures.

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-That's...that's pretty amazing.

-It's achievable.

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How about perhaps doing something here to form a screen

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-so you separate the room.

-Double doors!

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-That meet to form a single wall.

-Which we can slide.

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Graham. And you can emerge through the wall to your guests.

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This does have mileage, doesn't it? Which I don't have.

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24 pictures, Graham. 24.

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'Sounds promising, and I'm hoping there'll be more good news

0:30:480:30:51

'when it comes to the valuation.'

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-It's remarkable, isn't it?

-It is rather.

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He's choosing art which is technically very complex.

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'Alex Hayter from Bloomsbury Auctions

0:30:580:31:00

'has come to give me the lowdown.'

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At the end of the corridor here we've got a number of pieces

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that are almost sort of like a roll call of contemporary artist's names.

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Bridget Riley, for example, two pieces.

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Very much so, and they're great works.

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She's one of the most important British artists

0:31:130:31:16

of the 20th century, and it's very sought-after.

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So what's that worth today, for example?

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She's a fashionable artist, isn't she?

0:31:200:31:22

Well, two years ago, probably £1,500.

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-Now, £3,500, £4,000.

-That's an enormous rise!

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It is, but she's very in vogue.

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'Whilst some have increased, others aren't what they seem.'

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This series was...

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It's one of the most important series of prints

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by Hockney from the mid-1960s.

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This was part of a book.

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It was a book of 13 etchings,

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and it's effectively been taken out of the book.

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It's still an etching by David Hockney,

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there's no question of that, but it's been taken out of a book.

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'And so it's only worth about £100.

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'But Graham's got a great eye for emerging talent.

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They're by a relatively unknown artist called Colin Wiggins.

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He's made these...these portraits of other artists,

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and other artists have produced a portrait of him.

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They're beautiful things,

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they're really brilliantly crafted, clever etchings.

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-And they're from tiny editions.

-Minuscule, minuscule.

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These are incredibly rare things. I've seen this once.

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'And that can only be a good thing.'

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'There are some big-value pieces here,

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'and whilst Graham has bought straight from the galleries

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'at the highest prices,

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'there are plenty of artists whose careers are still maturing.'

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'With 350 separate pieces, this might take some time.

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'You're not going to tell me anything, are you, Mark?

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'Nope. Not yet anyway.'

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'Star Wars fanatic James's

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'35,000-piece collection can't be enjoyed.

0:32:510:32:54

'It's piled up in boxes and has completely overrun

0:32:540:32:57

'his children's bedrooms.

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'He knows it's out of control, but he's ready to make a change

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'and convert the entire attic into a purpose-built showroom.

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'So, I'm taking James and wife Sarah to meet a fellow collector

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'to see how a large collection can be balanced with a family home.'

0:33:100:33:13

-Hi.

-Hello.

-Hello, Debbie.

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-Yes.

-Good to see you.

-Hi, come on in.

-Hi.

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'Peter's die-cast van collection spans 22,000 items.'

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It's really beautiful, Peter.

0:33:220:33:24

A whole new collecting experience for you, James.

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Yes, unbelievable.

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-It's like an art gallery.

-Yeah.

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'But wife Debbie has put her foot down.

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'The collection stops on the stairs to the attic and comes no lower.'

0:33:330:33:37

-Just a few bits.

-22,000, James.

-22,000, OK.

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So, James, what do you think?

0:33:450:33:48

It's amazing.

0:33:480:33:50

-It's very organised.

-It's a bit of a collection.

0:33:500:33:52

It is, but it's all so well displayed.

0:33:520:33:55

It needs displaying.

0:33:550:33:56

-You need to see it, you need to be aware of what you've got.

-Yes.

0:33:560:33:59

'You said it. This is the total opposite to James's.

0:33:590:34:03

'The collection can be enjoyed

0:34:030:34:04

'and every available space has been used - even the sloping ceilings.'

0:34:040:34:09

For me to have the collection out on show is something that,

0:34:090:34:12

-you know, I want to do.

-It's great, isn't it?

0:34:120:34:15

So much pleasure.

0:34:150:34:16

-And I think I'll enjoy it a lot more.

-You will.

0:34:160:34:19

'Peter's love of vans began

0:34:190:34:20

'when he bought a life-size one more than 40 years ago.'

0:34:200:34:24

And I went to Spain and lived in the back of one

0:34:240:34:27

-for 13 months as a hippy...

-I'm loving that.

0:34:270:34:30

..on a strawberry farm. You were there.

0:34:300:34:33

Not actually, in Spain but you were of the '70s ilk, you know..

0:34:330:34:37

-Well, yeah, kind of, mainly '80s...

-Yeah, but we...

0:34:370:34:41

Is this all taking you back then to those hippy days

0:34:410:34:44

-living in the back of a van?

-Part of it, yeah, yeah.

0:34:440:34:46

Is that what it's about?

0:34:460:34:47

Everyone underestimates the vanning movement.

0:34:470:34:51

How much do you reckon you've spent in total?

0:34:510:34:54

What a question that is. I don't know.

0:34:540:34:56

You can't put a value on it.

0:34:560:34:58

-You can't put a balance sheet on enjoyment.

-Yeah.

0:34:580:35:01

'We're leaving the boys to it.'

0:35:010:35:02

Is there a board behind there?

0:35:020:35:04

So obviously you're not going directly into the...

0:35:040:35:06

-I've double plaster-boarded that.

-Right, OK, fine.

0:35:060:35:08

'I want Sarah to see how the collection

0:35:080:35:10

'doesn't have to take over the whole house.'

0:35:100:35:12

How did you manage to kind of mark out this territory so clearly?

0:35:120:35:16

-I just said, "I just don't want it everywhere in the house."

-Yeah.

0:35:160:35:20

You know, I just want some areas that I can call my own really, so...

0:35:200:35:23

This is the mistake I've made.

0:35:230:35:25

I clearly haven't been strict enough with that.

0:35:250:35:27

-Do you think that's what it is? About being strict?

-It really is.

0:35:270:35:30

I tell you, give them an inch, that's it.

0:35:300:35:32

How does it feel meeting a fellow collector's wife?

0:35:320:35:35

Good luck!

0:35:350:35:37

SHE LAUGHS

0:35:370:35:38

Aww.

0:35:380:35:40

It's great.

0:35:400:35:41

I'm very pleased that I can see how it could be at the other end.

0:35:410:35:46

'Whilst Mel's been finding out how they can display the collection,

0:35:470:35:50

'I've been trying to work out exactly what's here.'

0:35:500:35:53

'Most of the collection is from the late 1990s onwards.

0:35:540:35:57

'With many of his items produced in huge quantities,

0:35:580:36:01

'they don't command nearly as much value as the older late 1970s ones.'

0:36:010:36:05

'But James has kept all his modern figures mint on card,

0:36:070:36:11

'pristine and preserved in their original packaging.

0:36:110:36:15

'And, with duplicates and triplicates everywhere,

0:36:150:36:17

'selling them could bring in several thousand pounds.

0:36:170:36:21

'And he does have some star items that should be out on display.'

0:36:210:36:25

'But finding them all is impossible with the collection in this state.'

0:36:270:36:30

Well, that's all about to change as we're taking drastic action.

0:36:320:36:36

To get the attic converted into James's Star Wars haven,

0:36:360:36:40

everything's going to be packed up and shipped out

0:36:400:36:42

to a huge storage facility.

0:36:420:36:45

No matter how much wall space you've got, you'll need more.

0:36:450:36:48

Yeah.

0:36:480:36:49

'At last James can see beyond the boxes,

0:36:490:36:51

'and Sarah can see life without the boxes.'

0:36:510:36:54

So what do you reckon?

0:36:540:36:56

It's amazing, absolutely amazing collection.

0:36:560:36:58

-Beautifully displayed.

-It looks cool, doesn't it?

0:36:580:37:00

-Really cool.

-But I really, really like some of the ideas.

0:37:000:37:03

I like the shelf in the middle. Really good food for thought,

0:37:030:37:06

I'm getting a bit excited now.

0:37:060:37:08

'Moving everything is going to be a huge job for us,

0:37:080:37:11

'but for James it's finally time to relinquish control.'

0:37:110:37:15

'We're back with Shirley,

0:37:210:37:24

'who doesn't know what to do with the dolls she's hoping will be

0:37:240:37:27

'an important nest egg for her grandchildren.'

0:37:270:37:29

I think they need help, you know what I mean?

0:37:290:37:32

I mean, I could kick the bucket tomorrow,

0:37:320:37:33

I might live another 20 years, we don't know yet,

0:37:330:37:36

but I think they would need help and advice from somebody.

0:37:360:37:39

-Mark is your man.

-Absolutely. I'll do my best.

0:37:390:37:41

'Inheriting a collection is hard.

0:37:430:37:45

'Inheriting a collection this big is terrifying.

0:37:450:37:48

'And valuing it all is an intensive process.'

0:37:480:37:51

Could I have a look at those two?

0:37:520:37:54

-I can sort of see value there already.

-Can you?

-Absolutely, yes.

0:37:540:37:57

'When it comes to valuing dolls,

0:37:570:37:58

'you've got to know what you're looking for,

0:37:580:38:00

'and Mark knows where to start.'

0:38:000:38:02

-What are you doing? Winding the doll?

-THEY LAUGH

0:38:020:38:05

What I'm doing is looking at the back of the head

0:38:050:38:08

because, as Shirley well knows... Can you see here?

0:38:080:38:10

-What does it say? Oh, Germany!

-All the clues here on the back.

0:38:100:38:13

On the back of the neck.

0:38:130:38:14

And these marks will often give you clues as to

0:38:140:38:16

-when the doll was made and who made it.

-Ah.

0:38:160:38:19

And look at that. Nice little bit of detail up there.

0:38:200:38:23

Her eyelashes are intact.

0:38:230:38:24

-If we turn her over, let's see who made her.

-Germany.

0:38:240:38:27

-There we go, but AM here stands for Armand Marseille.

-Marseille.

0:38:270:38:31

Who are one of the most prolific doll makers.

0:38:310:38:34

'German manufacturer Armand Marseille

0:38:340:38:36

'was so popular that in the early 20th century their factory

0:38:360:38:40

'was producing up to 1,000 porcelain doll heads per day.

0:38:400:38:44

'These were affordable, but well-made dolls

0:38:440:38:47

'and they're just as popular now as they were back then.'

0:38:470:38:50

And with the clothing I could see a dealer

0:38:500:38:52

easily selling her for £250 or so.

0:38:520:38:55

'It's not just the dolls.

0:38:550:38:56

'Shirley's got 73 prams.

0:38:560:38:58

'And with prams it's the maker that's all important.'

0:38:580:39:02

-This is Silver Cross, isn't it?

-Silver Cross Princess.

0:39:020:39:04

-But this is the Rolls-Royce of prams...

-Yeah.

0:39:040:39:07

-I mean, my goodness me.

-Yeah, definitely.

0:39:070:39:09

'For me, dolls are just a childhood memory of playing mum,

0:39:090:39:13

'but that's not what the collector market sees,

0:39:130:39:15

'and it's a huge market.

0:39:150:39:17

'I've come to the Museum of Childhood in London

0:39:170:39:20

'to meet an expert who knows all about the value

0:39:200:39:23

'and history of dolls.

0:39:230:39:25

'Rachel Gotch has been a doll valuer

0:39:250:39:27

'at a specialist auction house for 15 years.'

0:39:270:39:30

Dolls, I believe, go back to as early as the Egyptian times,

0:39:310:39:35

but the dolls that we consider as collectible now,

0:39:350:39:38

the first commercial dolls, if you like,

0:39:380:39:41

-are William and Mary period, so about 1680s.

-Right.

0:39:410:39:45

'We're being given a very special treat -

0:39:470:39:49

'a private look inside the museum vaults.'

0:39:490:39:52

-Oh, my word, look at this, Rachel.

-Is this solid doll world?

0:39:520:39:57

-Absolutely.

-Floor to ceiling.

0:39:570:39:58

-This is the heart of the museum.

-I want to open all the boxes!

0:39:580:40:02

I know, but you'd be here all day, I'm afraid.

0:40:020:40:04

'The museum has over 4,000 dolls in their collection

0:40:040:40:07

'with everything from modern day Barbies to early wooden dolls.'

0:40:070:40:11

-She would date from about 1750, 1760.

-That old?

0:40:120:40:15

Oh, look! She's got a little...

0:40:150:40:17

-It's like a little watch.

-I love her clothes.

0:40:170:40:19

That's her little pocket watch to keep the time.

0:40:190:40:21

They think that these were made possibly by travelling

0:40:210:40:23

furniture makers, and they would do this as a sideline.

0:40:230:40:26

So the popularity of dolls would be literally word of mouth

0:40:260:40:29

or people seeing one and thinking, "I'd like one of those."

0:40:290:40:31

Yes, I think a sign of prosperity within the family

0:40:310:40:34

because they would have cost quite a lot at the time to be made,

0:40:340:40:37

and I think probably passed around after dinner parties to talk about.

0:40:370:40:40

It was a trinket.

0:40:400:40:41

So not given to your six-year-old to have a good old...?

0:40:410:40:44

No, I don't believe so. They're very rare.

0:40:440:40:47

We have quite recently sold an extremely rare example,

0:40:470:40:51

a little earlier than this one here, and she actually achieved £58,500.

0:40:510:40:56

-Wow.

-Yes.

0:40:560:40:58

'The 19th century Industrial Revolution

0:40:590:41:02

'led to the mass production of dolls.'

0:41:020:41:04

Ooh, it's like Christmas!

0:41:040:41:06

'A growing demand from the emerging wealthier population was fed

0:41:060:41:10

'by an increasing number of factories

0:41:100:41:12

'based primarily on the Continent.'

0:41:120:41:14

Ooh, wow. Oh, look.

0:41:140:41:17

'And one of the most popular materials they used was bisque,

0:41:170:41:20

'which was faster and easier to produce than wood.'

0:41:200:41:24

It's like a china material, it's fired, then it's painted by hand

0:41:240:41:28

and it's not glazed, so it doesn't have the shine of china.

0:41:280:41:32

'A number of factories in France became renowned

0:41:320:41:35

'for their fine quality, artistry and beauty.

0:41:350:41:39

'Jumeau, who made this Emile doll, were one of the best.'

0:41:390:41:42

These would have been extremely expensive in their day,

0:41:420:41:45

perhaps as much as a week's wages.

0:41:450:41:47

And today, presumably, she's much sought after, a doll like this?

0:41:470:41:50

Jumeaus are one of our most popular dolls with collectors.

0:41:500:41:54

They can achieve anywhere between sort of £3,000 and more.

0:41:540:41:58

She's got more outfits than Cheryl Cole, this one.

0:41:580:42:02

'By the 1930s bisque had become too expensive to make,

0:42:020:42:05

'so a cheap and simple alternative was found -

0:42:050:42:08

'composition.'

0:42:080:42:10

A bit like papier-mache, it's sort of sawdust,

0:42:100:42:12

I think perhaps a bit of chalk,

0:42:120:42:14

and it's all mushed together and moulded into shape.

0:42:140:42:17

And, yes, they would be much more affordable.

0:42:170:42:20

'Composition dolls are still very popular

0:42:200:42:22

'and collectors can pick up the most common for as little as £15 or £20.'

0:42:220:42:28

I rather like her, actually.

0:42:280:42:29

'Shirley's collection is predominantly

0:42:350:42:38

'composition and bisque.'

0:42:380:42:39

'But the dolls range in size, variety and, therefore, value.'

0:42:430:42:47

How much do you reckon you have spent on amassing the collection?

0:42:510:42:55

The most I've ever spent on a doll was £300,

0:42:550:42:58

but that was just a one-off, and some I've only paid £20, £10.

0:42:580:43:02

Yeah.

0:43:020:43:03

How much do you reckon the collection is worth?

0:43:050:43:08

Could be hundreds, I don't think it goes into thousands,

0:43:080:43:11

but it could be hundreds.

0:43:110:43:13

It would be interesting just to see

0:43:130:43:15

-if they have increased in value or gone down.

-Yes.

0:43:150:43:18

'So, just what secrets does Shirley's collection hold?

0:43:190:43:23

'And what kind of nest egg has she built for her grandchildren?'

0:43:230:43:25

'In London it's removal day at James and Sarah's house.'

0:43:310:43:35

-It is huge!

-Massive.

0:43:350:43:37

It needs to be big.

0:43:370:43:38

It does need to be big, Sarah, exactly.

0:43:380:43:40

'Everything must go so the building work in the attic can begin

0:43:400:43:43

'and the collection can be valued.'

0:43:430:43:46

-Until now the flow has been in, one way only.

-Yes.

0:43:460:43:51

We're about to reverse that and move everything out.

0:43:510:43:54

-I'm so excited.

-I've got a bad feeling about this.

0:43:540:43:58

Why?

0:43:580:43:59

No, it's just, you know, nervous, anxiety, you know.

0:43:590:44:01

It is positive.

0:44:010:44:03

'But, with so many boxes, it's going to be a huge task.'

0:44:040:44:08

What do you think about this, guys?

0:44:080:44:10

It's the first time I've ever seen anything quite like it, to be honest with you.

0:44:100:44:13

'And a huge upheaval for James.'

0:44:130:44:15

There was a loose figure that just went on the top.

0:44:150:44:17

Just be careful with the bubbles.

0:44:170:44:19

Dad's been threatening to cancel.

0:44:190:44:21

-Knowing him...

-He feels a bit nervous.

0:44:210:44:22

Your collection is in safe hands, James.

0:44:220:44:24

-Yes, exactly, exactly.

-Don't worry, it's in safe hands.

0:44:240:44:27

-Deep breaths.

-Yep, I'm absolutely fine!

0:44:270:44:29

Are you really?

0:44:310:44:32

Um...

0:44:320:44:34

Valium would be quite good right now. A valium or a drink.

0:44:340:44:37

I notice your voice has gone up a few octaves there.

0:44:370:44:40

I think we'll leave it at that for the moment.

0:44:410:44:44

'No time to dwell, James, it's all happening today.

0:44:440:44:48

'Builder Stewart has arrived to work out how to get the collection

0:44:480:44:51

'out of boxes and on display.'

0:44:510:44:53

The first challenge is space, of course. What are you thinking?

0:44:530:44:56

Bearing in mind...

0:44:560:44:57

-This as well as what we've just seen?

-It is, yes.

0:44:570:44:59

Wow, OK. You may have to get rid of some of it.

0:44:590:45:03

'The plan is to renovate the attic into a purpose-built showroom

0:45:030:45:06

'combined with storage units.'

0:45:060:45:08

And I know you had some concerns about lighting, Mark.

0:45:080:45:11

-I think we could either go for LED for halogen.

-Yep.

0:45:110:45:13

-And I believe it's LED that doesn't generate heat.

-That's right.

0:45:130:45:16

And I think with plastic figures you don't really want

0:45:160:45:18

to introduce them to a lot of heat.

0:45:180:45:20

And, most importantly, Sarah is putting her foot down.

0:45:200:45:24

This is it, isn't it?

0:45:240:45:25

James has his boundaries set for the Star Wars collection.

0:45:250:45:28

It's this room and outside on the landing, and going

0:45:280:45:30

down the stairs, up to Miriam's door and above her door, and that's it.

0:45:300:45:35

'The boxes are gone, everything's out

0:45:370:45:39

'and now it's time for everyone to see the transformation.'

0:45:390:45:42

-Ooh.

-Wow!

0:45:420:45:44

-Wow!

-This is so good.

-It's so good!

0:45:460:45:48

-Night, Dad.

-Look at this space!

0:45:480:45:51

Last time I think I probably touched the back wall,

0:45:510:45:54

I think...six years ago, when I was four?

0:45:540:45:58

-What do you think of the space?

-It's amazing.

0:45:580:46:00

It's a really good use of the space.

0:46:000:46:02

-Miriam's enjoying the space down there.

-SHE GIGGLES

0:46:020:46:05

'The Star Wars collection has all been moved

0:46:080:46:11

'to a 2,400 square foot storage space.'

0:46:110:46:14

'And I want to show James

0:46:170:46:19

'and Sarah just how much stuff was stuffed into their home.

0:46:190:46:22

'I think they're in for a surprise.'

0:46:220:46:24

OK.

0:46:330:46:35

Welcome to your collection.

0:46:360:46:38

That's mad. It's absolutely mad.

0:46:380:46:41

Ridiculous!

0:46:420:46:43

It sort of questions why you need to do this, doesn't it?

0:46:430:46:46

When you see a collection like this, why you need to have so much.

0:46:460:46:49

You don't need to have so much.

0:46:490:46:51

You need to choose what you want to collect and stick to that.

0:46:510:46:53

-Oh, 100%, 100%.

-That's what you need to do.

0:46:530:46:55

'It's a positive step.

0:46:550:46:56

'James is starting to realise he doesn't need to have it all.'

0:46:560:47:00

SHE LAUGHS

0:47:000:47:02

The hysteria really has set in, hasn't it, now?

0:47:020:47:05

The shock of it all.

0:47:050:47:07

We made our house bigger

0:47:080:47:09

and squeezed the children into smaller and smaller spaces.

0:47:090:47:12

-This is obscene.

-Do you feel a bit ashamed of it, as well?

0:47:120:47:15

Um...

0:47:170:47:18

I think I'm ashamed that I've let it get this far

0:47:220:47:25

without stepping back and doing something about it.

0:47:250:47:27

Self control is something you're going to have to

0:47:270:47:30

-exercise from now on.

-100%, 100%.

0:47:300:47:31

See this?

0:47:310:47:32

-BANG

-I'm putting my foot down.

0:47:320:47:34

That's fine. That's absolutely fine.

0:47:340:47:36

'An eye-opening experience all round, but there are signs James

0:47:360:47:40

'is becoming more of a collector and less of a hoarder.

0:47:400:47:43

'I can't wait to see everything displayed in all its glory.

0:47:430:47:46

'And, of course, find out how much it's all worth.'

0:47:460:47:50

'Like any collector, Shirley has invested time,

0:47:530:47:56

'money and emotion into her tribe of dolls.'

0:47:560:47:58

'After 50 years of collecting,

0:48:000:48:02

'it's time to reveal how much it's all worth.

0:48:020:48:05

'This will help Shirley's grandchildren make an informed

0:48:050:48:08

'decision on what they should do with the collection

0:48:080:48:10

'when they inherit it.'

0:48:100:48:13

Do you have figures in your head?

0:48:130:48:15

Not a couple of grand, but in the grand, I'd say.

0:48:150:48:17

-You'd say in the thousands?

-Yeah.

0:48:170:48:19

-James?

-Four grand?

0:48:190:48:20

Shirley, you said to me that you thought the collection

0:48:200:48:24

-was worth maybe the late hundreds, £800, £900.

-Yeah, maybe.

0:48:240:48:28

OK. I'm desperate. Mark, please.

0:48:280:48:30

Come on, four eager faces.

0:48:300:48:32

Your collection of dolls, Shirley, and prams...

0:48:320:48:36

..if sold on today's market...

0:48:380:48:40

..would be worth in the region...

0:48:410:48:44

..of £27,000.

0:48:470:48:50

You're joking?

0:48:510:48:53

Oh, my days.

0:48:530:48:55

You're joking. Really?

0:48:550:48:57

£27,000.

0:48:570:48:59

£27,000.

0:48:590:49:01

Do I spot a little tear in your eye?

0:49:020:49:05

Well, it's shock, isn't it?

0:49:050:49:06

We need another of your cups of tea, I think, Shirley.

0:49:060:49:09

-I think we do, a nice strong brew.

-A massively strong brew.

0:49:090:49:12

I never thought it'd be that much.

0:49:120:49:14

'Nor me, but Shirley's made some great investments.'

0:49:140:49:18

'Indeed.

0:49:180:49:19

'The prams alone are worth around £200 each,

0:49:190:49:23

'making up a staggering £14,000 of the total valuation.'

0:49:230:49:27

What did you pay for her Shirley?

0:49:280:49:30

Er, £16.

0:49:300:49:32

She's worth about £150 today.

0:49:320:49:34

I bought five of them like that.

0:49:340:49:36

'Shirley's intuition for buying dolls has paid off.

0:49:360:49:39

'When it does come time to sell the dolls,

0:49:390:49:41

'Shirley and the grandchildren have a number of options.

0:49:410:49:45

'There are auction houses, but they can carry heavy fees.

0:49:450:49:48

'Online auctions have lower fees, but can be time consuming.

0:49:480:49:52

'As Shirley wants her dolls to go to good homes,

0:49:530:49:56

'we're recommending a specialist dealer.

0:49:560:49:59

'They'll still charge a fee

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'but they'll be able to find the best homes for the best prices.'

0:50:000:50:04

Shirley, I should imagine this will appeal to you.

0:50:040:50:06

They'll make sure they go to good homes.

0:50:060:50:09

-So it's less hassle.

-Yeah.

0:50:090:50:10

And then you know you're getting your money's worth, as well.

0:50:100:50:13

'Hang on, though. Shirley's got other ideas.'

0:50:130:50:16

-I'm just not going anywhere.

-Shirley!

-I'm staying for ever.

0:50:160:50:19

We'll just get a big enough coffin to put them all in.

0:50:190:50:22

Actually the old Kings of Lithuania used to be buried

0:50:220:50:26

with all their horses buried around them.

0:50:260:50:28

I'm going to have a pyramid built, there we are.

0:50:280:50:31

I love this idea,

0:50:310:50:32

an enormous great mausoleum full of dolls watching you.

0:50:320:50:35

I'll get my own pyramid built.

0:50:350:50:37

Could you do something just with that space? A little cupboardy...

0:50:400:50:43

Yeah, we could do for smaller artworks, you know,

0:50:430:50:46

like you say, little bi-fold doors that concertina against each other.

0:50:460:50:49

'To show off his ever-expanding collection of 350 prints,

0:50:490:50:53

'Graham took drastic steps,

0:50:530:50:55

'buying the house next door and knocking through.'

0:50:550:50:57

'But to solve his display problems,

0:50:590:51:01

'we've come up with a rather unusual solution -

0:51:010:51:03

'put the walls back up.'

0:51:030:51:05

Think I preferred the sliding panels.

0:51:050:51:08

Certainly it's worth considering in a way

0:51:080:51:10

that I would have even remotely thought of it before today.

0:51:100:51:14

'That's great news, and it means he can buy more prints.'

0:51:140:51:18

'Only if they're worth it.

0:51:180:51:20

'Graham thought he'd spent £50,000 plus on his collection.'

0:51:200:51:24

Graham, I'm in the dark.

0:51:240:51:26

So, Mark, come on spill the old financial beans.

0:51:260:51:28

If you were to sell your whole collection on the open market

0:51:280:51:33

at auction, we feel that it would fetch in the region

0:51:330:51:37

of £85,000.

0:51:370:51:39

Mm-hm.

0:51:400:51:42

Well, that's nice to know,

0:51:420:51:43

and nice to know it's moved in that direction, I must say.

0:51:430:51:47

'Our valuer identified 48 key prints that make up

0:51:480:51:53

'more than 50% of the total value.'

0:51:530:51:55

'There's a Paula Rego piece from her hugely popular

0:51:550:51:58

'Peter Pan series from the early '90s.

0:51:580:52:01

'At nearly £2,000, it's more than double what Graham paid for it.

0:52:010:52:05

'And, of course, the quartet of Colin Wiggins collaborations

0:52:070:52:11

'that are so rare.'

0:52:110:52:13

Do you know how much you paid for them?

0:52:130:52:15

Yes, £600 each.

0:52:150:52:17

Your £600 each has turned into, for the full set,

0:52:170:52:23

around £6,500.

0:52:230:52:25

MEL WHISTLES Wow.

0:52:250:52:28

That's, er, produced a rosy glow.

0:52:280:52:30

This was certainly one of my better judgments.

0:52:300:52:32

'It certainly was.

0:52:320:52:34

'Graham's clearly got a great eye,

0:52:340:52:36

'and if he takes Sir John Soane's lead,

0:52:360:52:38

'he should have plenty of room for more purchases.'

0:52:380:52:41

-Tempted to sell it?

-No.

0:52:410:52:44

Not for anything?

0:52:440:52:45

No, it's part of me,

0:52:450:52:46

and it's been part of nearly 40 years of collecting,

0:52:460:52:49

and if we get the sliding partitions done

0:52:490:52:51

we might even have a few more pieces.

0:52:510:52:54

24 pictures, Graham. 24 pictures on two doors.

0:52:540:52:57

-Well...

-Quite exciting, eh?

0:52:570:52:59

Yes, and I wonder how long I can spin that out for.

0:52:590:53:02

There's one more person to see.

0:53:040:53:06

It's been six weeks since James's 35,000-piece collection

0:53:070:53:11

was removed from his house and the attic conversion began.

0:53:110:53:14

Seeing all of those boxes laid out was just an unbelievable moment.

0:53:190:53:25

It has changed my whole outlook on collecting.

0:53:250:53:28

I didn't have the control before over what was coming

0:53:280:53:31

into the house and how it was being displayed, and...

0:53:310:53:34

And now I have that control back, and it's not going to take over

0:53:340:53:38

the rest of the house again.

0:53:380:53:40

Cos I won't let it.

0:53:400:53:42

Well, it looks the same from the outside.

0:53:420:53:46

It does indeed.

0:53:460:53:47

'It's finally time for us to see the renovations

0:53:470:53:49

'and reveal just how much James's collection is worth.'

0:53:490:53:52

-Hello.

-Hello.

0:53:520:53:53

-How are you?

-Good to see you, James.

0:53:530:53:55

'The empire begins on the staircase.'

0:53:570:54:00

Oh, my lord, I can see it.

0:54:020:54:04

Oh!

0:54:040:54:06

'James's mint on card figures line the walls

0:54:060:54:09

'like a piece of postmodern abstract artwork.'

0:54:090:54:12

-You can actually see the stuff.

-Yes.

0:54:120:54:15

So is that the kind of invisible barrier there?

0:54:150:54:18

Yes, just here and also above Miriam's door.

0:54:180:54:21

I think they look absolutely extraordinary.

0:54:210:54:24

What do you think guys?

0:54:240:54:25

I think it's great. I think it's absolutely brilliant. Sarah?

0:54:250:54:27

It's worked out so much better than we could ever have imagined.

0:54:270:54:31

'But it's in the attic where the real change has taken place.'

0:54:310:54:35

That is beautiful. Look at it!

0:54:370:54:40

Oh, my goodness, it feels so big!

0:54:400:54:43

This is the room where the bunk beds were, isn't it?

0:54:430:54:46

-Yep.

-Yeah.

0:54:460:54:48

'Gone are the bunk beds and boxes,

0:54:480:54:50

'and in their places LED lighting,

0:54:500:54:52

'glass shelves and plenty of storage.'

0:54:520:54:54

-Slightly freaked out by the Vader head.

-THEY LAUGH

0:54:540:54:57

'Even the sloping ceilings have been put to use.'

0:54:570:55:01

Look at all these amazing things.

0:55:010:55:03

They all look as if they're doing

0:55:030:55:04

the thing that they were meant to do.

0:55:040:55:06

They were made for display, not for storing in a box

0:55:060:55:09

-in a big pile in the corner of a room.

-100%, 100%.

0:55:090:55:11

Whilst we're here, do you want to handle a lightsaber?

0:55:110:55:14

So when did you actually last handle these?

0:55:140:55:16

Some of them had never been opened.

0:55:160:55:18

How on earth could you leave it that long?

0:55:180:55:20

They were in a box, he couldn't get at them.

0:55:200:55:23

-Says it all, doesn't it, really?

-It does, it does.

0:55:230:55:25

'It's an amazing contrast and a whole new attitude to collecting.'

0:55:250:55:29

This whole process will change what I buy moving forward and how I buy.

0:55:290:55:32

Instead of buying five or six, you know, just buy one thing

0:55:320:55:35

because I actually like it.

0:55:350:55:36

Do you think you've turned into a different type of collector?

0:55:360:55:39

-Yeah, definitely.

-And would you see that as a progression?

0:55:390:55:42

-Yes, yes.

-In what way?

-It's growing up.

0:55:420:55:43

-Are you proud of him?

-I'm really proud of him.

0:55:430:55:46

He's saying things that I never thought I'd hear him say.

0:55:460:55:48

So if it was like this, would you mind it growing a little more?

0:55:480:55:51

As long as it grows in the room. The line has been drawn.

0:55:510:55:54

'James finally has the collection under control

0:55:560:55:58

'and Sarah and the kids have their house back.

0:55:580:56:01

'And, even better, James is showing a commitment to keep it that way,

0:56:010:56:05

'as he's agreed to sell 29 boxes off at auction.'

0:56:050:56:08

'So, come on Mark, tell us what the whole collection's worth.

0:56:080:56:12

'James thinks he's spent between £25,000

0:56:120:56:14

'and £30,000 on his Star Wars stuff.'

0:56:140:56:16

We've had a specialist go through your collection,

0:56:170:56:20

and we feel that if we were to put it into auction

0:56:200:56:23

it would fetch somewhere in the region

0:56:230:56:26

of £45,000 to £55,000.

0:56:260:56:29

-OK.

-That's...

0:56:300:56:31

That's a good thing.

0:56:310:56:33

-It's nice to know that it hasn't gone down. That's really nice.

-Yes.

0:56:330:56:36

Does that make you happy, James?

0:56:360:56:38

I don't know what it makes me, to be honest, because I'm not...

0:56:380:56:42

I genuinely am not really bothered about the money side of it.

0:56:420:56:44

I'm doing it because I enjoy it.

0:56:440:56:47

'James has nearly doubled the money he spent,

0:56:470:56:50

'and the star item is his much-loved Clone Trooper.'

0:56:500:56:53

He's incredibly scarce. What is it - five of these were made?

0:56:530:56:57

-Yes, that's right.

-Only five?

-Only five.

0:56:570:56:59

'Our valuer thinks James could expect around £1,000,

0:56:590:57:03

'but with no previous sales as a benchmark

0:57:030:57:06

'it could fetch far, far more.'

0:57:060:57:08

There will always be more than five people

0:57:080:57:11

who'll want to collect this.

0:57:110:57:13

-I mean, if two people get behind it, 3, 4, £5,000.

-Yep.

0:57:130:57:16

They've never been seen for sale before on the open market.

0:57:160:57:20

But it's plastic bricks!

0:57:200:57:22

But the hands are moveable, slightly.

0:57:220:57:24

-Ooh!

-SHE LAUGHS

0:57:260:57:28

'Luckily for me, the money doesn't mean that much to James and Sarah.'

0:57:280:57:32

'They've got their house back

0:57:320:57:34

'and a wonderful collection they can now enjoy.'

0:57:340:57:37

I don't think either of us

0:57:370:57:39

had any control over what was being collected.

0:57:390:57:42

Now I know that we've got the control back.

0:57:420:57:44

James has control, I have control - it's a better situation to be in.

0:57:440:57:47

I'm very happy that I've given the family their home back.

0:57:470:57:50

I think that was very, very important.

0:57:500:57:52

It was obviously selfish of me for what I was doing

0:57:520:57:55

and I think I needed a kick to break that cycle.

0:57:550:57:58

I can't remember the last time it was a proper family home,

0:58:010:58:06

and now it's a proper family home again.

0:58:060:58:09

Our work here is done.

0:58:090:58:10

Oh! There we go.

0:58:180:58:19

It's turned out nice again, hasn't it?

0:58:210:58:23

-Mmm, it has, actually.

-Very clement.

0:58:230:58:26

DEEP BREATHING

0:58:260:58:28

SHE COUGHS

0:58:280:58:30

'Excuse me.'

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