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-From art... -To antiques. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:03 | |
Ceramics to signs. | 0:00:03 | 0:00:06 | |
-Taxidermy... -To toys. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:08 | |
-From the common... -To the curious. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:11 | |
We're a nation of collectors. | 0:00:11 | 0:00:14 | |
Follow me, Mel Giedroyc. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:16 | |
And me, antiques expert and lifelong collector, Mark Hill. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:20 | |
As we go behind closed doors | 0:00:20 | 0:00:23 | |
to uncover Britain's secret collections. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:26 | |
And reveal what they're really worth, with surprising results. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:31 | |
-Collecting and curating. -Selling and displaying. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:35 | |
-For collectaholics everywhere. -We're here to help. | 0:00:35 | 0:00:38 | |
Oh, good God! | 0:00:48 | 0:00:50 | |
'On Collectaholics, we'll be delving into the extraordinary | 0:00:50 | 0:00:53 | |
'collections that have taken over people's lives.' | 0:00:53 | 0:00:56 | |
I've never seen so many signs. | 0:00:56 | 0:00:59 | |
'Swallowing up their space and using up their income.' | 0:00:59 | 0:01:02 | |
-What's the most expensive piece you've bought? -It'd be sort of £8,000 to £10,000. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:06 | |
'And pushing their relationships to the very edge.' | 0:01:06 | 0:01:08 | |
It's this room and that's it. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:11 | |
'I'll be helping our collectors deal with their collections in crisis.' | 0:01:11 | 0:01:14 | |
-Could I possibly call it an obsession? -It is bordering on that. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:17 | |
'And I'll be finding out what drives them to buy and buy and buy.' | 0:01:17 | 0:01:21 | |
Do you think this is what your collection's all about, Shirley, that one original doll? | 0:01:21 | 0:01:25 | |
'This week, the man whose buying habit is so extreme, | 0:01:25 | 0:01:28 | |
'he had to buy the property next door to house it all.' | 0:01:28 | 0:01:32 | |
I know very quickly whether I like a piece or not. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:34 | |
'But he still needs more room.' | 0:01:34 | 0:01:36 | |
A lot of the artwork is not more than sort of 2cm apart. | 0:01:36 | 0:01:40 | |
-Argh! It goes on for ever! -Where? | 0:01:40 | 0:01:43 | |
'The Star Wars fanatic with a 35,000-piece collection | 0:01:43 | 0:01:46 | |
'that's taken over his entire house.' | 0:01:46 | 0:01:49 | |
I've threatened him with skips before. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:50 | |
One day he will push me too far if he doesn't change. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:53 | |
It has gotten out of hand. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:55 | |
They literally are everywhere, Shirley. | 0:01:55 | 0:01:57 | |
'And the woman who shares her home with a family of 300.' | 0:01:57 | 0:02:00 | |
I just like to take care of them. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:01 | |
'And we'll be blown away to discover what they're all worth.' | 0:02:01 | 0:02:04 | |
-Oh, my days. -You're joking? Really? | 0:02:04 | 0:02:08 | |
Our first stop is Cambridgeshire, | 0:02:13 | 0:02:15 | |
to meet 57-year-old music teacher Graham. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:18 | |
So, Mark, an exciting day. We've got the sun | 0:02:19 | 0:02:22 | |
and we've got modern prints. | 0:02:22 | 0:02:25 | |
We have indeed. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:26 | |
In the past, Graham's excessive buying has forced him to take drastic action. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:31 | |
To house his expanding collection, he bought the house next door. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:35 | |
I think collecting has become an obsession. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:38 | |
It's a very pleasant obsession. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:39 | |
It's a hobby in the most compelling | 0:02:39 | 0:02:43 | |
and possibly compulsive way of looking at it. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:47 | |
But, despite all those extra walls, | 0:02:47 | 0:02:49 | |
every inch of space is covered by his 350-piece collection. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:53 | |
If he's going to live for another 20, 30 or 40 more years collecting, | 0:02:53 | 0:02:57 | |
not quite sure how we're going to fit everything in. | 0:02:57 | 0:02:59 | |
It's almost like an addiction. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:01 | |
Graham's obsession is with modern original prints. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:04 | |
They're hugely popular and I love them so I can't wait to see inside. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:08 | |
-Hi, are you Graham? -Come in, yes. -Hi, I'm Mel and this is Mark. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:11 | |
-Hello, Graham, nice to meet you. -Hi, Mark. Please come in. -Thank you very much, thank you. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:15 | |
Right, please come through. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:17 | |
-Whoa... -Oh, God. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:20 | |
Is it a house or is it a gallery? | 0:03:20 | 0:03:22 | |
-It goes on. -It's both. -It's a cornucopia of colour. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:25 | |
And it literally... It moves everywhere in the house. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:28 | |
The whole of Graham's house, | 0:03:28 | 0:03:30 | |
every single room, every nook and cranny, | 0:03:30 | 0:03:32 | |
has got some part of his art collection in it. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:35 | |
(There are so many.) | 0:03:35 | 0:03:36 | |
It's absolutely everywhere. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:39 | |
'With so many different pieces, it's totally overwhelming.' | 0:03:39 | 0:03:43 | |
It does look slightly as if you are running out of wall space. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:47 | |
Now Graham's 40-year compulsion has left him facing a crisis. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:51 | |
Graham, you're not going to stop collecting, | 0:03:51 | 0:03:53 | |
you have a finite amount of space. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:56 | |
-How are you going to deal with that? -Er, probably buy ever smaller pieces, | 0:03:56 | 0:04:00 | |
or move it even closer together, | 0:04:00 | 0:04:02 | |
although even that's becoming a bit of a challenge. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:04 | |
'Buying another house isn't an option, | 0:04:04 | 0:04:06 | |
'so we need to find a solution.' | 0:04:06 | 0:04:09 | |
'Graham thinks he's spent more than £50,000 feeding his passion for art. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:14 | |
'So we'll also be getting a valuation to find out how much it's all worth.' | 0:04:14 | 0:04:19 | |
'Has he got a good eye? | 0:04:19 | 0:04:22 | |
'It's impossible to tell with this wallpaper of art. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:25 | |
'Time to take a closer inspection.' | 0:04:25 | 0:04:27 | |
I haven't got a huge amount of abstract act, | 0:04:27 | 0:04:29 | |
but Bridget Riley's vibrant colours and lines are fascinating to me. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:35 | |
Now, this is very familiar. It's a Kandinsky? | 0:04:35 | 0:04:37 | |
-It is a Kandinsky, yes. -Oh, you're getting good! | 0:04:37 | 0:04:40 | |
I've often bought artwork as a sort of souvenir. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:44 | |
Artwork has been acquired because I wanted a record of something | 0:04:44 | 0:04:50 | |
that affected my life at that particular moment. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:53 | |
How long has it taken you to collect all of these? | 0:04:53 | 0:04:56 | |
Well, I can remember exactly when I collected my first piece. | 0:04:56 | 0:04:58 | |
It was 1975 in the church where I was organist. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:02 | |
I was a student in Manchester. And it cost me £18. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:06 | |
It seems to me, Graham, as if a lot of different styles kind of draw you in. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:10 | |
I know very quickly whether I like a piece or not. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:13 | |
-How do you know? -It's a gut reaction. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:15 | |
It's an emotional impulse. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:17 | |
But as the collection becomes more serious, | 0:05:17 | 0:05:19 | |
then you do start looking for more specific examples of pieces, | 0:05:19 | 0:05:24 | |
either the same artist or a completely different artist, | 0:05:24 | 0:05:27 | |
that will actually go with the collection as it exists. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:31 | |
This one looks interesting. Who's this by? | 0:05:31 | 0:05:33 | |
Paula Rego. Her work has become very desirable | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
and, not surprisingly, also very expensive. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:39 | |
So I was very pleased to get an early print of hers. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:44 | |
'Rego's work often uses folk tales from her native Portugal | 0:05:44 | 0:05:47 | |
'to create images with a dark and sometimes political edge. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:51 | |
'A prolific artist, her precise and linear drawing lends itself | 0:05:51 | 0:05:55 | |
'to the techniques of printing.' | 0:05:55 | 0:05:57 | |
How do prints actually work? | 0:05:57 | 0:05:59 | |
Print is an actual art form in its own right. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:02 | |
A number of artists are actually exclusively printmakers, | 0:06:02 | 0:06:05 | |
and prints can start from what's called a mono-print | 0:06:05 | 0:06:07 | |
where there is only one, | 0:06:07 | 0:06:09 | |
and of course they are comparatively expensive, | 0:06:09 | 0:06:11 | |
through to limited-edition runs. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:14 | |
'Known in the art world as original prints, | 0:06:14 | 0:06:16 | |
'they're not reproductions of existing art work. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:19 | |
'They are the art themselves, always conceived as a print.' | 0:06:19 | 0:06:24 | |
And what did you pay for this, Graham? | 0:06:24 | 0:06:26 | |
Well, I managed to get... buy that for under £400. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:29 | |
So, Graham, I know that you think you might have spent about £50,000 on the collection? | 0:06:32 | 0:06:38 | |
-As far as I can even begin to get my mind round... -OK. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:43 | |
..30-plus years of collecting, nearly 40 years of collecting. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:47 | |
OK. Mark, would that seem like a... | 0:06:47 | 0:06:50 | |
I think...I think a little bit of an underestimate there. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:53 | |
When it comes to the value of the collection, what do you reckon? | 0:06:53 | 0:06:58 | |
Well, if I can't even work out how much I've paid for it, | 0:06:58 | 0:07:01 | |
the chances of working out what it's worth are even more unlikely! | 0:07:01 | 0:07:05 | |
We'll be valuing his collection to find out if he's spent wisely. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:10 | |
And with not an inch of wall space left, action is desperately needed | 0:07:10 | 0:07:14 | |
to find a way for Graham to continue collecting. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:17 | |
Limited-edition prints exploded in popularity | 0:07:23 | 0:07:27 | |
after the Second World War, in the '50s, | 0:07:27 | 0:07:29 | |
largely because people had money to spare for the first time in decades. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:34 | |
They'd recovered from the effects of the war and wanted to buy status, | 0:07:34 | 0:07:38 | |
and prints were an affordable way to put big-name artists on your wall. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:43 | |
Director of the London Original Print Fair Helen Rosslyn has come | 0:07:45 | 0:07:49 | |
to meet me at an art gallery to explain the magic of print-making. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:52 | |
I think what's so lovely is that some of the real iconic images | 0:07:52 | 0:07:56 | |
that we recognise are prints. | 0:07:56 | 0:07:58 | |
Swimming pool, it's got to be Hockney. Am I right? | 0:07:58 | 0:08:00 | |
-It's Hockney, you're right. -Come on. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:02 | |
Do certain artists lend themselves | 0:08:02 | 0:08:04 | |
better to the print-making process, do you think? | 0:08:04 | 0:08:07 | |
Well, I think certain artists lend themselves to | 0:08:07 | 0:08:09 | |
certain techniques, yes. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:12 | |
-These are absolutely massive. -Aren't they? | 0:08:14 | 0:08:16 | |
And that's what's so spectacular, because these Bacon lithographs... | 0:08:16 | 0:08:20 | |
-Francis Bacon? -Yes, Francis Bacon. -And they're actual prints? -Yes. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:23 | |
You would think being this size that they're paintings, but they're not, they're prints. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:27 | |
And this one's a great illustration of the fact that print-making's not | 0:08:31 | 0:08:34 | |
-just contemporary prints, cos this is Picasso. -Picasso, wow. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:37 | |
Yes, and he, again, was a master of the techniques of print-making. | 0:08:37 | 0:08:41 | |
This is an etching, | 0:08:41 | 0:08:43 | |
-and you can see actually because etching is done on copper plate... -Right. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:47 | |
..and you can see the indentation | 0:08:47 | 0:08:49 | |
where the plate sits on the paper, what's called a plate-mark. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:53 | |
They're cheaper, aren't they, than buying, obviously, a Picasso oil painting? | 0:08:53 | 0:08:56 | |
They're cheaper. It's often called a democratic art form, | 0:08:56 | 0:08:59 | |
and I think that's a reason why a lot of artists do make prints. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:02 | |
'Although this print would still set you back more than £50,000.' | 0:09:02 | 0:09:07 | |
Prints by big names like Picasso can fetch eye-watering prices. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:13 | |
His weeping woman recently sold at Christie's | 0:09:13 | 0:09:15 | |
for a staggering 5.1 million. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:19 | |
'Prints are big business. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:21 | |
'Helen's brought me to meet printmaker Bob Sachse | 0:09:21 | 0:09:24 | |
'at a graphic studio to see the process in action.' | 0:09:24 | 0:09:27 | |
The interesting thing about prints is there are probably really | 0:09:27 | 0:09:30 | |
five main printing techniques, of which this is one, | 0:09:30 | 0:09:33 | |
screen printing, and screen printing, really, is the most modern of the processes. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:37 | |
-(I used a potato print to get into Glastonbury festival once.) -Did you? | 0:09:37 | 0:09:42 | |
Potato print, boom, on the hand. Straight in. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:45 | |
'Most American artists from the Pop Art era of the '60s, | 0:09:45 | 0:09:50 | |
'such as Andy Warhol and Roy Lichtenstein, | 0:09:50 | 0:09:52 | |
'favoured the screen-printing method, | 0:09:52 | 0:09:54 | |
'and Bob here has been making prints with established artists | 0:09:54 | 0:09:57 | |
'for 45 years.' | 0:09:57 | 0:09:59 | |
What I'm doing here at the moment is I'm just putting another colour | 0:09:59 | 0:10:03 | |
on this Basil Beattie edition that we've been working on recently, | 0:10:03 | 0:10:07 | |
and the process is basically a colour at a time, | 0:10:07 | 0:10:11 | |
a sheet of paper at a time. | 0:10:11 | 0:10:12 | |
Bob, it strikes me that you are the man doing the kind of... | 0:10:12 | 0:10:17 | |
the donkey work. Not the donkey work, but you're doing | 0:10:17 | 0:10:19 | |
ALL the work, essentially. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:21 | |
It's more of a collaboration really. The artist is the key factor, | 0:10:21 | 0:10:24 | |
as far as it's their image and how they do it. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:27 | |
What we do is just try and facilitate the best way of producing that image. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:31 | |
-But don't underplay your role. -Exactly. -It's the technical know-how. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:34 | |
If you look over there, you can see a list. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:36 | |
This looks to me as if it's all the stages of the printing | 0:10:36 | 0:10:39 | |
-you've already done, on this... -Yes. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:41 | |
-There are 23 steps here, Bob. -23 steps, yeah. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:44 | |
-And is that going to be from start to finish on Basil's picture? -Yes. Yeah. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:49 | |
-So that's incredibly laborious, though, isn't it? -Exactly. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:52 | |
'Bob uses a sheet of acetate | 0:10:52 | 0:10:54 | |
'to ensure every print is placed perfectly. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:57 | |
'Each print in this run of 75 is placed under the screen | 0:10:59 | 0:11:02 | |
'in exactly the same place, before a layer of paint is added.' | 0:11:02 | 0:11:06 | |
So, there we go, that's the first layer of the blue. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:12 | |
That is so cool. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:14 | |
What's amazing about it, though, is the actual quality. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:16 | |
It looks as if it's been drawn. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:18 | |
Because it's a layering process, a lot of artists are always | 0:11:18 | 0:11:22 | |
-looking for thickness and texture and weight of colour. -Right. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:25 | |
And that's something that the screen process can give. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:28 | |
-Now you've seen the whole process, I really want you to see... -Ooh. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:32 | |
..the final print and how it's going to be. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:35 | |
-Look at that. Isn't it beautiful? -(Oh, wow.) | 0:11:35 | 0:11:38 | |
'So there we have it, an original print.' | 0:11:38 | 0:11:41 | |
Isn't that beautiful? So the penny is slightly dropping. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:45 | |
Each of those 75 prints have been through the 23 steps. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:49 | |
-That's correct, yeah. -Which makes each an original artwork, | 0:11:49 | 0:11:53 | |
-essentially, doesn't it? -Yes. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:55 | |
They look the same but each has gone through the process and the work. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:59 | |
Exactly, which is why we call them original prints. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:03 | |
Our next stop is London, where an ordinary family house | 0:12:09 | 0:12:12 | |
is hiding a very extraordinary collection. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:15 | |
Star Wars is the ultimate story of good versus evil | 0:12:16 | 0:12:20 | |
and good overcoming evil. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:22 | |
It's the ultimate film for people of my generation. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:24 | |
But 41-year-old father-of-three James has taken it to the extreme. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:30 | |
This is James's collection, an estimated 35,000 Star Wars pieces, | 0:12:31 | 0:12:36 | |
all hidden inside piles of brown boxes. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:40 | |
It's a bit of a shock to the system when anyone walks in | 0:12:40 | 0:12:43 | |
and sees how much collection he's actually got. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:45 | |
Wife Sarah and their three children, Daniel, Yoni and Miriam | 0:12:45 | 0:12:49 | |
are literally living in a Star Wars storage facility. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:52 | |
The only rooms which it's really not in | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
are the bathrooms and the kitchen. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:57 | |
-There are a lot of figures. -Star Wars Lego. | 0:12:57 | 0:12:59 | |
-There are lightsabers. -About 10 or 12 of those. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:01 | |
-Gentle giant busts. -Signed pieces. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:04 | |
-Life-size props. -Got R2KT in Miriam's room. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:07 | |
And it's like an Aladdin's Cave. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:08 | |
It is so chock-a-block. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:11 | |
It's like Moscow at rush hour. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:13 | |
We're very much a Star Wars family. I just wish he didn't have so much of it. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:17 | |
'As a collector myself, I can sympathise with the temptation | 0:13:17 | 0:13:21 | |
'to buy and buy and buy, but James's collection is out of control.' | 0:13:21 | 0:13:26 | |
'So, Mark and I are coming to help James and Sarah find a way to live | 0:13:26 | 0:13:29 | |
'WITH the collection rather than under it.' | 0:13:29 | 0:13:32 | |
-Hey there. -Hello. -Hello. Are you James? -Yes. -Hi, I'm Mel. -Hi, nice to meet you. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:37 | |
Hello, James, good to meet you. Go forth! | 0:13:37 | 0:13:40 | |
Oh...my...days. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:44 | |
-Do you actually know what's in there? -Yes. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:47 | |
-Every single thing? -Pretty much. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:49 | |
I don't believe you. You can't possibly... | 0:13:49 | 0:13:51 | |
How long did it take to fill this room? | 0:13:51 | 0:13:53 | |
'Despite two extensions built to house it all, | 0:13:53 | 0:13:57 | |
'the 35,000-piece collection has still engulfed the family home.' | 0:13:57 | 0:14:01 | |
-Argh! It goes on for ever. -Where? | 0:14:03 | 0:14:05 | |
Mark, come and have a look, get your head round. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:08 | |
-How can you get to the stuff that's in here? -I can't. Obviously. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:12 | |
So, why? What's it all doing there? | 0:14:12 | 0:14:15 | |
'And, worryingly, the boxes don't stop here.' | 0:14:15 | 0:14:18 | |
-B-bedroom. Is it a bed...? -There's a bed in here?! -Does somebody sleep in it? | 0:14:18 | 0:14:23 | |
'The kids' bedrooms are under siege as well.' | 0:14:23 | 0:14:26 | |
-Right, OK. Who...who lives here? -Daniel, my eldest. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:32 | |
There's more Star Wars than Daniel. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:34 | |
This takes over the whole space, this takes over THEM. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:37 | |
-I mean, this is their bedroom. My bedroom was my lair, it was my cave, it was my home. -Yeah. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:42 | |
You know, and all of a sudden, there's Dad's stuff! | 0:14:42 | 0:14:45 | |
'I can honestly say I've never seen anything like this. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:48 | |
'Sarah must be a saint. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:50 | |
'Or she's just not putting her foot down.' | 0:14:50 | 0:14:52 | |
Is it difficult to see the collection taking over your children's lives as well? | 0:14:52 | 0:14:56 | |
They're going to be Star Wars fans. They didn't really have a choice in that. | 0:14:56 | 0:15:00 | |
It was inevitable! | 0:15:00 | 0:15:02 | |
But I do worry about the impact it has because they...they don't have normal bedrooms. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:06 | |
They have boxes of Star Wars stuff and it's not normal, | 0:15:06 | 0:15:09 | |
and I do worry about the effect. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:11 | |
'This is amassing, not collecting.' | 0:15:11 | 0:15:14 | |
-Ooh! -Now, what I've got in this room, at the back there is a replica | 0:15:14 | 0:15:17 | |
of that, and it's signed, it's got a plaque that's signed by Mark Hamill. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:21 | |
-And that, you can't even get to? -I can't get to it. -James, that's ridiculous. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:24 | |
That's a key piece of memorabilia, that should be on display somewhere. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:28 | |
'So, how did it get so bad? | 0:15:28 | 0:15:30 | |
'James first began collecting when he was just seven years old, | 0:15:30 | 0:15:34 | |
'but as a teenager, his collection didn't survive.' | 0:15:34 | 0:15:37 | |
My parents got divorced in '86, | 0:15:37 | 0:15:39 | |
and...unfortunately my dad destroyed all of my Star Wars collection. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:44 | |
I'm sure he had his reasons because he was clearing out the house | 0:15:44 | 0:15:47 | |
and it was just one of those things. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:48 | |
I'm really sort of quite intrigued by what happened. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:51 | |
I mean, your father threw away your collection? | 0:15:51 | 0:15:53 | |
Extensibly, yes, so when I got our stuff back, it wasn't there, | 0:15:53 | 0:15:58 | |
and I didn't speak to my father for a few years. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:00 | |
'They've since made up but it was a difficult time for 16-year-old James.' | 0:16:00 | 0:16:05 | |
It was obviously a very, very painful experience, um... | 0:16:05 | 0:16:08 | |
that still is, you know... still hurts me today. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:13 | |
Um...but that's life. You get on with it, pick yourself up, | 0:16:13 | 0:16:16 | |
dust yourself off and carry on as best you can. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:19 | |
Do you think this is part of the reason why you're just amassing everything? | 0:16:19 | 0:16:24 | |
They're your items, it's your collection, you've got the control of it all. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:28 | |
There's obviously something like that that's harking me back. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:31 | |
'James didn't begin collecting again for another ten years.' | 0:16:31 | 0:16:35 | |
I was in Southgate and there was an antique shop there which had some vintage figures in the window, | 0:16:35 | 0:16:40 | |
and I went and bought him an Ewok, and it was just one Ewok. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:44 | |
That sort of re-sparked | 0:16:44 | 0:16:46 | |
something that was laying dormant for many years. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:49 | |
I don't know how much he's spent. I don't want to ask. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:53 | |
So, how would you like the house to change? | 0:16:55 | 0:16:58 | |
What would you like to see happening to your house? | 0:16:58 | 0:17:00 | |
I would like one room, which would house his collection. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:05 | |
I do appreciate the fact that it has gotten out of hand. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:09 | |
I need there to be some commitment from him that... | 0:17:09 | 0:17:14 | |
when we get the house in order, and it has to be a when, not an if, | 0:17:14 | 0:17:17 | |
cos I've threatened him with skips before and, it, you know... | 0:17:17 | 0:17:21 | |
One day he will push me too far. This is a family home not a museum. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:25 | |
If he keeps it all in boxes, he might as well just throw it | 0:17:25 | 0:17:28 | |
all away cos it's just sitting there and doing nothing. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:31 | |
'There's more at stake here than just the collection | 0:17:31 | 0:17:33 | |
'and something needs to change.' | 0:17:33 | 0:17:36 | |
You're not playing with it, you're not opening it up, you're not handling the actual goods inside. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:40 | |
And, aesthetically, | 0:17:40 | 0:17:42 | |
-you're not really getting a lot out of it either. -No. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:46 | |
So kind of on both fronts it seems as if... | 0:17:46 | 0:17:48 | |
It's a waste at the moment. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:51 | |
-It's a waste. -Oh, James, that seems too harsh, though. -We need to do something better. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:55 | |
Well...at the moment it's a pile of boxes and it's not really a lot more. | 0:17:55 | 0:17:59 | |
Your home is a storage facility with boxes piled up into it. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:02 | |
You need to turn it back into a home. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:05 | |
'Unable to see it, this collection is pointless. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:08 | |
'Not least because James has hit upon one of the world's most popular collectibles. | 0:18:09 | 0:18:14 | |
'Star Wars merchandise is not only big business, | 0:18:14 | 0:18:17 | |
'it's also earned its very own place in history.' | 0:18:17 | 0:18:21 | |
Whether you're a Luke Skywalker, Han Solo or Princess Leia fan, | 0:18:21 | 0:18:24 | |
there are hardly any of us that haven't seen a Star Wars film. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:28 | |
It's one of the most famous film franchises of all time. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:31 | |
However, it's not just the movies that made big bucks. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:34 | |
'Since their first appearance in 1977, | 0:18:37 | 0:18:41 | |
'the films have revolutionised the toy industry.' | 0:18:41 | 0:18:44 | |
Movie tie-ins had been around since the very earliest days of cinema. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:51 | |
As stars of the silver screen gained popularity and notoriety, | 0:18:51 | 0:18:55 | |
theatres could purchase items such as pillow cases with | 0:18:55 | 0:18:58 | |
photographs of the stars to give away to or sell to the public. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:01 | |
And then, of course, there was Walt Disney and his big star, Mickey Mouse. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:06 | |
'But by the time Star Wars came along in the late '70s, | 0:19:06 | 0:19:09 | |
'the big toy companies had all but given up on movie memorabilia | 0:19:09 | 0:19:13 | |
'and simply weren't interested in making Star Wars toys.' | 0:19:13 | 0:19:17 | |
Even the distributors 20th Century Fox had no faith | 0:19:17 | 0:19:20 | |
in the virtues of merchandising, or even in the films themselves. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:24 | |
'In one of Hollywood's most famous deals, | 0:19:25 | 0:19:28 | |
'George Lucas agreed to a reduced salary in exchange | 0:19:28 | 0:19:31 | |
'for 40% of box office takings and all the merchandising rights. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:36 | |
'Lucas joined forces with toy manufacturers Kenner | 0:19:36 | 0:19:39 | |
to produce a range of Star Wars figures. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:42 | |
'It was a partnership that would prove to be an enormous success.' | 0:19:42 | 0:19:46 | |
The marketing team initially | 0:19:47 | 0:19:49 | |
had thought about producing a 12-inch figure, | 0:19:49 | 0:19:51 | |
so very much like GI Joe in America an Action Man over here in the UK. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:55 | |
However they very quickly realised that a 12-inch Han Solo | 0:19:55 | 0:19:59 | |
would require a five-foot Millennium Falcon. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:01 | |
They then turned to the president of Kenner, Bernie Loomis. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:06 | |
His response was this - | 0:20:06 | 0:20:08 | |
three and three quarter inches. | 0:20:08 | 0:20:10 | |
It was the new size of figure which kept manufacturing costs down, | 0:20:11 | 0:20:15 | |
and that meant everybody could afford a little piece of Star Wars. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:19 | |
And that was important for children and, of course, their parents, | 0:20:19 | 0:20:23 | |
because, as well as aiming to collect the entire set, | 0:20:23 | 0:20:26 | |
you could let your imagination run wild as you acted out | 0:20:26 | 0:20:29 | |
your favourite scenes from the films. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:31 | |
It was a whole new way to play, and today | 0:20:31 | 0:20:34 | |
the three-and-three-quarter-inch figure is very much the industry standard. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:37 | |
Lucas and his friends had surprised everyone | 0:20:39 | 0:20:41 | |
and surpassed all expectation. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:44 | |
The marketing strategy and production of such a vast range | 0:20:44 | 0:20:47 | |
of toys turned many a young boy into a collector. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:50 | |
Driven by nostalgia, prices for these early vintage | 0:20:50 | 0:20:53 | |
Star Wars pieces can be stratospheric. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:56 | |
A set of the 12 original figures, | 0:20:56 | 0:20:58 | |
mint on card and in exceptional condition, | 0:20:58 | 0:21:01 | |
recently sold at auction for over £12,000. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:04 | |
As of 2012, the Star Wars films have generated an estimated | 0:21:04 | 0:21:08 | |
4.4 billion in ticket sales, but that's compared | 0:21:08 | 0:21:13 | |
to an estimated 20 billion worth of merchandising sales. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:18 | |
Star Wars didn't just tell us about the exploits of an empire, | 0:21:18 | 0:21:21 | |
it created an empire. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:23 | |
And our next collector has created her very own empire. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:31 | |
We've come to meet a woman who's worried about the future | 0:21:31 | 0:21:34 | |
of her collection and has no idea of its true value. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:37 | |
KNOCKING | 0:21:38 | 0:21:40 | |
-Hello. -Hello, pleased to meet you. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:42 | |
-Are you Shirley? -Yes. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:43 | |
'And for grandma Shirley it's a very large collection.' | 0:21:43 | 0:21:47 | |
Wow. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:51 | |
They literally are everywhere, Shirley. | 0:21:52 | 0:21:55 | |
Goodness me! How many have you got? | 0:21:55 | 0:21:57 | |
I've got 73 prams and I've got approximately 300 dolls. | 0:21:57 | 0:22:01 | |
-73 prams. -Prams. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:04 | |
Where are the other...65? | 0:22:04 | 0:22:07 | |
-You'll see them in a minute. -Right, OK. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:09 | |
Shirley can't stop buying dolls, and has done so since her childhood. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:15 | |
They now fill six rooms of her home. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:17 | |
I don't smoke, I don't drink and I don't go out with men. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:22 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:22:22 | 0:22:25 | |
So that's my hobby. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:27 | |
There's something very odd going on with the eyelids on this one. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:30 | |
Yeah, she moves, her eyes move. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:32 | |
I just like to take care of them, | 0:22:32 | 0:22:33 | |
I always feel sorry for a doll if it's battered about. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:37 | |
I feel like I want to take it home and look after it. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:40 | |
Hello, little ones. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:42 | |
You look very at home there, I do have to say. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:45 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:22:45 | 0:22:46 | |
'But now 69-year-old Shirley is facing a problem | 0:22:47 | 0:22:50 | |
'all collectors will have to deal with at some point. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:53 | |
'What happens to your collection after you've gone?' | 0:22:53 | 0:22:56 | |
I am concerned about the future. | 0:22:57 | 0:22:59 | |
If I sort of kick the bucket and go, like, | 0:22:59 | 0:23:01 | |
what's going to happen to them? | 0:23:01 | 0:23:03 | |
Who's going to look after them and do the necessary? | 0:23:03 | 0:23:06 | |
'This is Shirley's life's work and passion. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:10 | |
'She wants to pass the dolls on to her grandchildren | 0:23:10 | 0:23:13 | |
'but they have no idea | 0:23:13 | 0:23:14 | |
'what to do with them or even what they're worth.' | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
How much do you think you've spent in your 50 years as a collector? | 0:23:17 | 0:23:22 | |
-I don't know. -Ah-ha. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:25 | |
Look at this little cluster! | 0:23:25 | 0:23:26 | |
'This is a collection that demands an extensive valuation. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:30 | |
'Until we know what it's all worth, | 0:23:30 | 0:23:32 | |
'we can't help Shirley decide what its future should be.' | 0:23:32 | 0:23:35 | |
'50s dolls, hard plastic dolls, | 0:23:35 | 0:23:37 | |
-are really coming into their own at the moment. -Oh, really? | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
And I think perhaps that's partly to do with nostalgia. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:42 | |
-I think we like to collect toys that we had as children. -Yes. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:45 | |
And maybe it's a generation now collecting the dolls | 0:23:45 | 0:23:47 | |
-of the '50s that they had when they were younger. -Ah. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:50 | |
You could be talking sort of up to a couple of hundred pounds. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:53 | |
-Really? -But it needs a little bit more work on that. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:55 | |
'What I really want to know, though, is how do you go from buying | 0:23:55 | 0:23:58 | |
'a few dolls to owning a collection of more than 300?' | 0:23:58 | 0:24:01 | |
Did you have one specific doll as a child | 0:24:03 | 0:24:05 | |
that you were very attached to? | 0:24:05 | 0:24:06 | |
My first doll I ever had, my mum bought me, | 0:24:06 | 0:24:09 | |
and I idolised that doll. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:11 | |
I came home from school one day and she'd gone, | 0:24:11 | 0:24:14 | |
and my mum told me that she'd given it to a family | 0:24:14 | 0:24:18 | |
who lived over the road who had about seven or eight children, | 0:24:18 | 0:24:21 | |
and a few days later I saw the doll | 0:24:21 | 0:24:23 | |
and it was just smashed to bits in the garden. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:25 | |
-Oh, Shirley, no! -Shirley, stop it. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:27 | |
Yeah, I know. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:29 | |
Do you think this is what your collection's all about, Shirley? | 0:24:29 | 0:24:32 | |
It's the search to find that one original doll | 0:24:32 | 0:24:34 | |
-that was taken away from you? -Maybe subconsciously. | 0:24:34 | 0:24:37 | |
-Shirley, onwards. I can't bear this. -Absolutely. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:39 | |
-Onwards, please. -Show us some more. | 0:24:39 | 0:24:41 | |
Oh...my...days. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:43 | |
You sleep in this room with the dolls? | 0:24:43 | 0:24:45 | |
-This is my bedroom. -This is your bedroom. | 0:24:45 | 0:24:47 | |
This is like a car park of.. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:49 | |
-A pram park. -Isn't it? | 0:24:49 | 0:24:51 | |
'I have to say, I'm blown away and, if I'm being honest, | 0:24:54 | 0:24:58 | |
'(a little bit spooked.)' | 0:24:58 | 0:24:59 | |
Sorry, one of them is actually staring at me quite intensely. | 0:25:00 | 0:25:04 | |
-No, I can't look at him! -Now look what you've started. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:08 | |
Shirley, be my buffer, please be my buffer. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:10 | |
'Shirley is a collectaholic in every sense of the word. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:13 | |
'As her grandchildren, Lucia and James, know only too well.' | 0:25:13 | 0:25:17 | |
How does it work in reality? | 0:25:17 | 0:25:18 | |
Every time she goes to an antiques fair | 0:25:18 | 0:25:20 | |
she will say to me on the phone, "I am not buying no prams, | 0:25:20 | 0:25:22 | |
"I'm not buying no dolls, I'm going to look." | 0:25:22 | 0:25:24 | |
You ring her up that evening, "Nan, what did you buy?" | 0:25:24 | 0:25:27 | |
"I bought two dolls and a pram." | 0:25:27 | 0:25:28 | |
-Ah. Oh, no! -SHE LAUGHS | 0:25:28 | 0:25:31 | |
I remember going to these fairs with her | 0:25:31 | 0:25:33 | |
and putting the back seats down, trying to fit the pram in the back. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:36 | |
Put three prams in the back and... SHIRLEY GIGGLES | 0:25:36 | 0:25:38 | |
Yeah, with all the dolls and... | 0:25:38 | 0:25:40 | |
If I say, "James, there's an antique fair coming soon." | 0:25:40 | 0:25:42 | |
"No, no, I'm not coming, don't ask me." THEY LAUGH | 0:25:42 | 0:25:45 | |
'When the time comes, Shirley's grandchildren | 0:25:45 | 0:25:48 | |
'have no idea what to do with the collection.' | 0:25:48 | 0:25:51 | |
They did say when I kick the bucket | 0:25:51 | 0:25:53 | |
that they're going to stick 'em on eBay. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:56 | |
Are you daunted by the prospect | 0:25:57 | 0:26:00 | |
that you're going to have this huge collection to deal with? | 0:26:00 | 0:26:05 | |
I wouldn't know where to start. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:06 | |
-Really? -Really. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:08 | |
Internet. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:09 | |
-Internet? -Online auctions. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:11 | |
-I'm joking. -Listen, she doesn't want that. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:14 | |
No, I know, she wants them to go to loving homes and... | 0:26:14 | 0:26:16 | |
I think she'd haunt me if I done that. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:18 | |
That was the first doll like that that my mum bought for me. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:21 | |
'I mean, I think it is fair to say that it's something | 0:26:21 | 0:26:24 | |
'that seems to worry Shirley a bit isn't, it? | 0:26:24 | 0:26:26 | |
'If you collect something,' | 0:26:26 | 0:26:28 | |
if you've got a passion for something and you love something so much | 0:26:28 | 0:26:31 | |
then obviously you're not going to want that thing | 0:26:31 | 0:26:33 | |
to get damaged or hurt, | 0:26:33 | 0:26:34 | |
so obviously that's when her feelings come into play. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:37 | |
It would be nice in a way to kind of find | 0:26:37 | 0:26:39 | |
some options for her, wouldn't it? | 0:26:39 | 0:26:41 | |
Yeah, keep her mind at rest. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:43 | |
It would be nice to have, like, a plan so it all goes smoothly. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:46 | |
Well, hopefully we can help. | 0:26:46 | 0:26:48 | |
-Yeah, sounds brilliant. -Yeah, good. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:50 | |
'Getting everything valued is the first step to giving Shirley | 0:26:50 | 0:26:53 | |
'the peace of mind she's longing for.' | 0:26:53 | 0:26:55 | |
'And it's becoming clear that Shirley has no idea | 0:26:55 | 0:26:58 | |
'just how much it's all worth.' | 0:26:58 | 0:27:00 | |
-She's probably worth £150, £250 I would think. -Yeah? | 0:27:00 | 0:27:03 | |
Art collector Graham is facing a crisis - | 0:27:09 | 0:27:11 | |
how to keep collecting when he's run out of wall space. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:16 | |
We've brought him to London to a very special house indeed. | 0:27:16 | 0:27:19 | |
This was once the home of 19th century architect Sir John Soane. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:25 | |
Something of a collector himself, Soane created this house, | 0:27:25 | 0:27:28 | |
with its picturesque and poetic interiors, to inspire amateurs | 0:27:28 | 0:27:32 | |
and students in architecture, painting and sculpture. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:36 | |
It was his gift to the nation. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:38 | |
Welcome to Sir John Soane's picture room. | 0:27:40 | 0:27:43 | |
Wow. Good heavens. Absolutely astonishing. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:47 | |
John Soane built this room in 1824, when he was 71, | 0:27:47 | 0:27:51 | |
to house his enormous and growing collection of pictures. | 0:27:51 | 0:27:55 | |
This room is not all that it seems Graham, | 0:27:55 | 0:27:58 | |
-there's a bit of an optical illusion in here. -Right. | 0:27:58 | 0:28:01 | |
Cos he had a lot more pictures to deal with than | 0:28:01 | 0:28:03 | |
the ones you can just see hanging up. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:06 | |
'Soane was immensely proud of his use of large moveable planes | 0:28:06 | 0:28:10 | |
'to maximise hanging options.' | 0:28:10 | 0:28:12 | |
Good heavens, yes, this is the perfect solution, | 0:28:13 | 0:28:15 | |
I shall have one of these constructed as soon as I get home. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:18 | |
-More of them? -Yep. | 0:28:18 | 0:28:20 | |
In fact, the whole room has doors that open up to hold more pictures. | 0:28:20 | 0:28:24 | |
How clever. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:26 | |
It's like a sort of gigantic advent calendar. | 0:28:26 | 0:28:28 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:28:28 | 0:28:29 | |
'The effect was such that this 13 by 12 foot space | 0:28:29 | 0:28:33 | |
'is actually capable of displaying as many pictures | 0:28:33 | 0:28:36 | |
'as a gallery of 20 by 45 feet.' | 0:28:36 | 0:28:39 | |
It's just absolutely amazing, | 0:28:39 | 0:28:40 | |
just how you can show everything off quite so easily. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:44 | |
I think it's ingenious. | 0:28:45 | 0:28:46 | |
Housing works by great artists such as Canaletto, | 0:28:48 | 0:28:51 | |
Turner and Hogarth, it's said that Soane used more | 0:28:51 | 0:28:55 | |
than 704 books of gold leaf to gild their frames. | 0:28:55 | 0:28:59 | |
Do you feel a sort of connection across the centuries | 0:29:00 | 0:29:03 | |
with this extraordinary collector? | 0:29:03 | 0:29:06 | |
Yes, I think there are... | 0:29:06 | 0:29:07 | |
There's a strange vibe about all this, | 0:29:07 | 0:29:09 | |
because you can see the same single-mindedness | 0:29:09 | 0:29:13 | |
and the same joy of collecting and the same pleasure, | 0:29:13 | 0:29:17 | |
to get it on the wall so that others can enjoy it, as well. | 0:29:17 | 0:29:20 | |
Can you see yourself, Graham, doing something similar? | 0:29:22 | 0:29:26 | |
-It is food for thought, isn't it? -And for the eyes. | 0:29:26 | 0:29:28 | |
It's going to happen. | 0:29:28 | 0:29:29 | |
-It's going to happen, Graham. -It'd be a feast. | 0:29:29 | 0:29:31 | |
'Recreating Sir John Soane's picture room is a touch ambitious, | 0:29:35 | 0:29:40 | |
'but I think it's perfect inspiration | 0:29:40 | 0:29:42 | |
'for a collection as jam-packed as Graham's. | 0:29:42 | 0:29:45 | |
'So I've brought in builder Stewart to see what's possible.' | 0:29:45 | 0:29:48 | |
What areas are we looking at? | 0:29:48 | 0:29:50 | |
Well, Graham, what do you think? | 0:29:50 | 0:29:52 | |
Well, it's where you can actually hinge some of these partitions | 0:29:52 | 0:29:56 | |
on which you can then hang additional pieces. | 0:29:56 | 0:29:58 | |
We can certainly do something within here. | 0:29:58 | 0:30:01 | |
Just looking at it, perhaps a sliding door there, | 0:30:01 | 0:30:04 | |
so you could hang art this side and from that side. | 0:30:04 | 0:30:07 | |
-Right. -As well as, you know, making the most of that wall. | 0:30:07 | 0:30:10 | |
What were you thinking, Graham, in terms of | 0:30:10 | 0:30:12 | |
where it will be in the house? | 0:30:12 | 0:30:13 | |
Well, I'm still trying to get my mind around the concept in any shape. | 0:30:13 | 0:30:17 | |
'It's a lot for Graham to take on board.' | 0:30:17 | 0:30:19 | |
How many pictures would you want to put on? | 0:30:19 | 0:30:21 | |
We're looking at one, two, three... | 0:30:21 | 0:30:23 | |
About half a dozen on either side, | 0:30:23 | 0:30:25 | |
so you're looking at another dozen pictures. | 0:30:25 | 0:30:27 | |
-That's...that's pretty amazing. -It's achievable. | 0:30:27 | 0:30:30 | |
How about perhaps doing something here to form a screen | 0:30:30 | 0:30:33 | |
-so you separate the room. -Double doors! | 0:30:33 | 0:30:35 | |
-That meet to form a single wall. -Which we can slide. | 0:30:35 | 0:30:38 | |
Graham. And you can emerge through the wall to your guests. | 0:30:38 | 0:30:42 | |
This does have mileage, doesn't it? Which I don't have. | 0:30:42 | 0:30:46 | |
24 pictures, Graham. 24. | 0:30:46 | 0:30:48 | |
'Sounds promising, and I'm hoping there'll be more good news | 0:30:48 | 0:30:51 | |
'when it comes to the valuation.' | 0:30:51 | 0:30:53 | |
-It's remarkable, isn't it? -It is rather. | 0:30:53 | 0:30:55 | |
He's choosing art which is technically very complex. | 0:30:55 | 0:30:58 | |
'Alex Hayter from Bloomsbury Auctions | 0:30:58 | 0:31:00 | |
'has come to give me the lowdown.' | 0:31:00 | 0:31:02 | |
At the end of the corridor here we've got a number of pieces | 0:31:02 | 0:31:06 | |
that are almost sort of like a roll call of contemporary artist's names. | 0:31:06 | 0:31:09 | |
Bridget Riley, for example, two pieces. | 0:31:09 | 0:31:11 | |
Very much so, and they're great works. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:13 | |
She's one of the most important British artists | 0:31:13 | 0:31:16 | |
of the 20th century, and it's very sought-after. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:18 | |
So what's that worth today, for example? | 0:31:18 | 0:31:20 | |
She's a fashionable artist, isn't she? | 0:31:20 | 0:31:22 | |
Well, two years ago, probably £1,500. | 0:31:22 | 0:31:24 | |
-Now, £3,500, £4,000. -That's an enormous rise! | 0:31:24 | 0:31:27 | |
It is, but she's very in vogue. | 0:31:27 | 0:31:28 | |
'Whilst some have increased, others aren't what they seem.' | 0:31:28 | 0:31:32 | |
This series was... | 0:31:32 | 0:31:33 | |
It's one of the most important series of prints | 0:31:33 | 0:31:35 | |
by Hockney from the mid-1960s. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:37 | |
This was part of a book. | 0:31:37 | 0:31:40 | |
It was a book of 13 etchings, | 0:31:40 | 0:31:42 | |
and it's effectively been taken out of the book. | 0:31:42 | 0:31:45 | |
It's still an etching by David Hockney, | 0:31:45 | 0:31:48 | |
there's no question of that, but it's been taken out of a book. | 0:31:48 | 0:31:51 | |
'And so it's only worth about £100. | 0:31:51 | 0:31:54 | |
'But Graham's got a great eye for emerging talent. | 0:31:54 | 0:31:57 | |
They're by a relatively unknown artist called Colin Wiggins. | 0:31:57 | 0:32:01 | |
He's made these...these portraits of other artists, | 0:32:01 | 0:32:05 | |
and other artists have produced a portrait of him. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:07 | |
They're beautiful things, | 0:32:07 | 0:32:08 | |
they're really brilliantly crafted, clever etchings. | 0:32:08 | 0:32:11 | |
-And they're from tiny editions. -Minuscule, minuscule. | 0:32:11 | 0:32:14 | |
These are incredibly rare things. I've seen this once. | 0:32:14 | 0:32:17 | |
'And that can only be a good thing.' | 0:32:17 | 0:32:19 | |
'There are some big-value pieces here, | 0:32:21 | 0:32:24 | |
'and whilst Graham has bought straight from the galleries | 0:32:24 | 0:32:27 | |
'at the highest prices, | 0:32:27 | 0:32:28 | |
'there are plenty of artists whose careers are still maturing.' | 0:32:28 | 0:32:32 | |
'With 350 separate pieces, this might take some time. | 0:32:35 | 0:32:40 | |
'You're not going to tell me anything, are you, Mark? | 0:32:40 | 0:32:43 | |
'Nope. Not yet anyway.' | 0:32:43 | 0:32:45 | |
'Star Wars fanatic James's | 0:32:49 | 0:32:51 | |
'35,000-piece collection can't be enjoyed. | 0:32:51 | 0:32:54 | |
'It's piled up in boxes and has completely overrun | 0:32:54 | 0:32:57 | |
'his children's bedrooms. | 0:32:57 | 0:32:59 | |
'He knows it's out of control, but he's ready to make a change | 0:32:59 | 0:33:02 | |
'and convert the entire attic into a purpose-built showroom. | 0:33:02 | 0:33:06 | |
'So, I'm taking James and wife Sarah to meet a fellow collector | 0:33:06 | 0:33:10 | |
'to see how a large collection can be balanced with a family home.' | 0:33:10 | 0:33:13 | |
-Hi. -Hello. -Hello, Debbie. | 0:33:13 | 0:33:15 | |
-Yes. -Good to see you. -Hi, come on in. -Hi. | 0:33:15 | 0:33:18 | |
'Peter's die-cast van collection spans 22,000 items.' | 0:33:18 | 0:33:22 | |
It's really beautiful, Peter. | 0:33:22 | 0:33:24 | |
A whole new collecting experience for you, James. | 0:33:24 | 0:33:27 | |
Yes, unbelievable. | 0:33:27 | 0:33:28 | |
-It's like an art gallery. -Yeah. | 0:33:28 | 0:33:30 | |
'But wife Debbie has put her foot down. | 0:33:30 | 0:33:33 | |
'The collection stops on the stairs to the attic and comes no lower.' | 0:33:33 | 0:33:37 | |
-Just a few bits. -22,000, James. -22,000, OK. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:43 | |
So, James, what do you think? | 0:33:45 | 0:33:48 | |
It's amazing. | 0:33:48 | 0:33:50 | |
-It's very organised. -It's a bit of a collection. | 0:33:50 | 0:33:52 | |
It is, but it's all so well displayed. | 0:33:52 | 0:33:55 | |
It needs displaying. | 0:33:55 | 0:33:56 | |
-You need to see it, you need to be aware of what you've got. -Yes. | 0:33:56 | 0:33:59 | |
'You said it. This is the total opposite to James's. | 0:33:59 | 0:34:03 | |
'The collection can be enjoyed | 0:34:03 | 0:34:04 | |
'and every available space has been used - even the sloping ceilings.' | 0:34:04 | 0:34:09 | |
For me to have the collection out on show is something that, | 0:34:09 | 0:34:12 | |
-you know, I want to do. -It's great, isn't it? | 0:34:12 | 0:34:15 | |
So much pleasure. | 0:34:15 | 0:34:16 | |
-And I think I'll enjoy it a lot more. -You will. | 0:34:16 | 0:34:19 | |
'Peter's love of vans began | 0:34:19 | 0:34:20 | |
'when he bought a life-size one more than 40 years ago.' | 0:34:20 | 0:34:24 | |
And I went to Spain and lived in the back of one | 0:34:24 | 0:34:27 | |
-for 13 months as a hippy... -I'm loving that. | 0:34:27 | 0:34:30 | |
..on a strawberry farm. You were there. | 0:34:30 | 0:34:33 | |
Not actually, in Spain but you were of the '70s ilk, you know.. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:37 | |
-Well, yeah, kind of, mainly '80s... -Yeah, but we... | 0:34:37 | 0:34:41 | |
Is this all taking you back then to those hippy days | 0:34:41 | 0:34:44 | |
-living in the back of a van? -Part of it, yeah, yeah. | 0:34:44 | 0:34:46 | |
Is that what it's about? | 0:34:46 | 0:34:47 | |
Everyone underestimates the vanning movement. | 0:34:47 | 0:34:51 | |
How much do you reckon you've spent in total? | 0:34:51 | 0:34:54 | |
What a question that is. I don't know. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:56 | |
You can't put a value on it. | 0:34:56 | 0:34:58 | |
-You can't put a balance sheet on enjoyment. -Yeah. | 0:34:58 | 0:35:01 | |
'We're leaving the boys to it.' | 0:35:01 | 0:35:02 | |
Is there a board behind there? | 0:35:02 | 0:35:04 | |
So obviously you're not going directly into the... | 0:35:04 | 0:35:06 | |
-I've double plaster-boarded that. -Right, OK, fine. | 0:35:06 | 0:35:08 | |
'I want Sarah to see how the collection | 0:35:08 | 0:35:10 | |
'doesn't have to take over the whole house.' | 0:35:10 | 0:35:12 | |
How did you manage to kind of mark out this territory so clearly? | 0:35:12 | 0:35:16 | |
-I just said, "I just don't want it everywhere in the house." -Yeah. | 0:35:16 | 0:35:20 | |
You know, I just want some areas that I can call my own really, so... | 0:35:20 | 0:35:23 | |
This is the mistake I've made. | 0:35:23 | 0:35:25 | |
I clearly haven't been strict enough with that. | 0:35:25 | 0:35:27 | |
-Do you think that's what it is? About being strict? -It really is. | 0:35:27 | 0:35:30 | |
I tell you, give them an inch, that's it. | 0:35:30 | 0:35:32 | |
How does it feel meeting a fellow collector's wife? | 0:35:32 | 0:35:35 | |
Good luck! | 0:35:35 | 0:35:37 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:35:37 | 0:35:38 | |
Aww. | 0:35:38 | 0:35:40 | |
It's great. | 0:35:40 | 0:35:41 | |
I'm very pleased that I can see how it could be at the other end. | 0:35:41 | 0:35:46 | |
'Whilst Mel's been finding out how they can display the collection, | 0:35:47 | 0:35:50 | |
'I've been trying to work out exactly what's here.' | 0:35:50 | 0:35:53 | |
'Most of the collection is from the late 1990s onwards. | 0:35:54 | 0:35:57 | |
'With many of his items produced in huge quantities, | 0:35:58 | 0:36:01 | |
'they don't command nearly as much value as the older late 1970s ones.' | 0:36:01 | 0:36:05 | |
'But James has kept all his modern figures mint on card, | 0:36:07 | 0:36:11 | |
'pristine and preserved in their original packaging. | 0:36:11 | 0:36:15 | |
'And, with duplicates and triplicates everywhere, | 0:36:15 | 0:36:17 | |
'selling them could bring in several thousand pounds. | 0:36:17 | 0:36:21 | |
'And he does have some star items that should be out on display.' | 0:36:21 | 0:36:25 | |
'But finding them all is impossible with the collection in this state.' | 0:36:27 | 0:36:30 | |
Well, that's all about to change as we're taking drastic action. | 0:36:32 | 0:36:36 | |
To get the attic converted into James's Star Wars haven, | 0:36:36 | 0:36:40 | |
everything's going to be packed up and shipped out | 0:36:40 | 0:36:42 | |
to a huge storage facility. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:45 | |
No matter how much wall space you've got, you'll need more. | 0:36:45 | 0:36:48 | |
Yeah. | 0:36:48 | 0:36:49 | |
'At last James can see beyond the boxes, | 0:36:49 | 0:36:51 | |
'and Sarah can see life without the boxes.' | 0:36:51 | 0:36:54 | |
So what do you reckon? | 0:36:54 | 0:36:56 | |
It's amazing, absolutely amazing collection. | 0:36:56 | 0:36:58 | |
-Beautifully displayed. -It looks cool, doesn't it? | 0:36:58 | 0:37:00 | |
-Really cool. -But I really, really like some of the ideas. | 0:37:00 | 0:37:03 | |
I like the shelf in the middle. Really good food for thought, | 0:37:03 | 0:37:06 | |
I'm getting a bit excited now. | 0:37:06 | 0:37:08 | |
'Moving everything is going to be a huge job for us, | 0:37:08 | 0:37:11 | |
'but for James it's finally time to relinquish control.' | 0:37:11 | 0:37:15 | |
'We're back with Shirley, | 0:37:21 | 0:37:24 | |
'who doesn't know what to do with the dolls she's hoping will be | 0:37:24 | 0:37:27 | |
'an important nest egg for her grandchildren.' | 0:37:27 | 0:37:29 | |
I think they need help, you know what I mean? | 0:37:29 | 0:37:32 | |
I mean, I could kick the bucket tomorrow, | 0:37:32 | 0:37:33 | |
I might live another 20 years, we don't know yet, | 0:37:33 | 0:37:36 | |
but I think they would need help and advice from somebody. | 0:37:36 | 0:37:39 | |
-Mark is your man. -Absolutely. I'll do my best. | 0:37:39 | 0:37:41 | |
'Inheriting a collection is hard. | 0:37:43 | 0:37:45 | |
'Inheriting a collection this big is terrifying. | 0:37:45 | 0:37:48 | |
'And valuing it all is an intensive process.' | 0:37:48 | 0:37:51 | |
Could I have a look at those two? | 0:37:52 | 0:37:54 | |
-I can sort of see value there already. -Can you? -Absolutely, yes. | 0:37:54 | 0:37:57 | |
'When it comes to valuing dolls, | 0:37:57 | 0:37:58 | |
'you've got to know what you're looking for, | 0:37:58 | 0:38:00 | |
'and Mark knows where to start.' | 0:38:00 | 0:38:02 | |
-What are you doing? Winding the doll? -THEY LAUGH | 0:38:02 | 0:38:05 | |
What I'm doing is looking at the back of the head | 0:38:05 | 0:38:08 | |
because, as Shirley well knows... Can you see here? | 0:38:08 | 0:38:10 | |
-What does it say? Oh, Germany! -All the clues here on the back. | 0:38:10 | 0:38:13 | |
On the back of the neck. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:14 | |
And these marks will often give you clues as to | 0:38:14 | 0:38:16 | |
-when the doll was made and who made it. -Ah. | 0:38:16 | 0:38:19 | |
And look at that. Nice little bit of detail up there. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:23 | |
Her eyelashes are intact. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:24 | |
-If we turn her over, let's see who made her. -Germany. | 0:38:24 | 0:38:27 | |
-There we go, but AM here stands for Armand Marseille. -Marseille. | 0:38:27 | 0:38:31 | |
Who are one of the most prolific doll makers. | 0:38:31 | 0:38:34 | |
'German manufacturer Armand Marseille | 0:38:34 | 0:38:36 | |
'was so popular that in the early 20th century their factory | 0:38:36 | 0:38:40 | |
'was producing up to 1,000 porcelain doll heads per day. | 0:38:40 | 0:38:44 | |
'These were affordable, but well-made dolls | 0:38:44 | 0:38:47 | |
'and they're just as popular now as they were back then.' | 0:38:47 | 0:38:50 | |
And with the clothing I could see a dealer | 0:38:50 | 0:38:52 | |
easily selling her for £250 or so. | 0:38:52 | 0:38:55 | |
'It's not just the dolls. | 0:38:55 | 0:38:56 | |
'Shirley's got 73 prams. | 0:38:56 | 0:38:58 | |
'And with prams it's the maker that's all important.' | 0:38:58 | 0:39:02 | |
-This is Silver Cross, isn't it? -Silver Cross Princess. | 0:39:02 | 0:39:04 | |
-But this is the Rolls-Royce of prams... -Yeah. | 0:39:04 | 0:39:07 | |
-I mean, my goodness me. -Yeah, definitely. | 0:39:07 | 0:39:09 | |
'For me, dolls are just a childhood memory of playing mum, | 0:39:09 | 0:39:13 | |
'but that's not what the collector market sees, | 0:39:13 | 0:39:15 | |
'and it's a huge market. | 0:39:15 | 0:39:17 | |
'I've come to the Museum of Childhood in London | 0:39:17 | 0:39:20 | |
'to meet an expert who knows all about the value | 0:39:20 | 0:39:23 | |
'and history of dolls. | 0:39:23 | 0:39:25 | |
'Rachel Gotch has been a doll valuer | 0:39:25 | 0:39:27 | |
'at a specialist auction house for 15 years.' | 0:39:27 | 0:39:30 | |
Dolls, I believe, go back to as early as the Egyptian times, | 0:39:31 | 0:39:35 | |
but the dolls that we consider as collectible now, | 0:39:35 | 0:39:38 | |
the first commercial dolls, if you like, | 0:39:38 | 0:39:41 | |
-are William and Mary period, so about 1680s. -Right. | 0:39:41 | 0:39:45 | |
'We're being given a very special treat - | 0:39:47 | 0:39:49 | |
'a private look inside the museum vaults.' | 0:39:49 | 0:39:52 | |
-Oh, my word, look at this, Rachel. -Is this solid doll world? | 0:39:52 | 0:39:57 | |
-Absolutely. -Floor to ceiling. | 0:39:57 | 0:39:58 | |
-This is the heart of the museum. -I want to open all the boxes! | 0:39:58 | 0:40:02 | |
I know, but you'd be here all day, I'm afraid. | 0:40:02 | 0:40:04 | |
'The museum has over 4,000 dolls in their collection | 0:40:04 | 0:40:07 | |
'with everything from modern day Barbies to early wooden dolls.' | 0:40:07 | 0:40:11 | |
-She would date from about 1750, 1760. -That old? | 0:40:12 | 0:40:15 | |
Oh, look! She's got a little... | 0:40:15 | 0:40:17 | |
-It's like a little watch. -I love her clothes. | 0:40:17 | 0:40:19 | |
That's her little pocket watch to keep the time. | 0:40:19 | 0:40:21 | |
They think that these were made possibly by travelling | 0:40:21 | 0:40:23 | |
furniture makers, and they would do this as a sideline. | 0:40:23 | 0:40:26 | |
So the popularity of dolls would be literally word of mouth | 0:40:26 | 0:40:29 | |
or people seeing one and thinking, "I'd like one of those." | 0:40:29 | 0:40:31 | |
Yes, I think a sign of prosperity within the family | 0:40:31 | 0:40:34 | |
because they would have cost quite a lot at the time to be made, | 0:40:34 | 0:40:37 | |
and I think probably passed around after dinner parties to talk about. | 0:40:37 | 0:40:40 | |
It was a trinket. | 0:40:40 | 0:40:41 | |
So not given to your six-year-old to have a good old...? | 0:40:41 | 0:40:44 | |
No, I don't believe so. They're very rare. | 0:40:44 | 0:40:47 | |
We have quite recently sold an extremely rare example, | 0:40:47 | 0:40:51 | |
a little earlier than this one here, and she actually achieved £58,500. | 0:40:51 | 0:40:56 | |
-Wow. -Yes. | 0:40:56 | 0:40:58 | |
'The 19th century Industrial Revolution | 0:40:59 | 0:41:02 | |
'led to the mass production of dolls.' | 0:41:02 | 0:41:04 | |
Ooh, it's like Christmas! | 0:41:04 | 0:41:06 | |
'A growing demand from the emerging wealthier population was fed | 0:41:06 | 0:41:10 | |
'by an increasing number of factories | 0:41:10 | 0:41:12 | |
'based primarily on the Continent.' | 0:41:12 | 0:41:14 | |
Ooh, wow. Oh, look. | 0:41:14 | 0:41:17 | |
'And one of the most popular materials they used was bisque, | 0:41:17 | 0:41:20 | |
'which was faster and easier to produce than wood.' | 0:41:20 | 0:41:24 | |
It's like a china material, it's fired, then it's painted by hand | 0:41:24 | 0:41:28 | |
and it's not glazed, so it doesn't have the shine of china. | 0:41:28 | 0:41:32 | |
'A number of factories in France became renowned | 0:41:32 | 0:41:35 | |
'for their fine quality, artistry and beauty. | 0:41:35 | 0:41:39 | |
'Jumeau, who made this Emile doll, were one of the best.' | 0:41:39 | 0:41:42 | |
These would have been extremely expensive in their day, | 0:41:42 | 0:41:45 | |
perhaps as much as a week's wages. | 0:41:45 | 0:41:47 | |
And today, presumably, she's much sought after, a doll like this? | 0:41:47 | 0:41:50 | |
Jumeaus are one of our most popular dolls with collectors. | 0:41:50 | 0:41:54 | |
They can achieve anywhere between sort of £3,000 and more. | 0:41:54 | 0:41:58 | |
She's got more outfits than Cheryl Cole, this one. | 0:41:58 | 0:42:02 | |
'By the 1930s bisque had become too expensive to make, | 0:42:02 | 0:42:05 | |
'so a cheap and simple alternative was found - | 0:42:05 | 0:42:08 | |
'composition.' | 0:42:08 | 0:42:10 | |
A bit like papier-mache, it's sort of sawdust, | 0:42:10 | 0:42:12 | |
I think perhaps a bit of chalk, | 0:42:12 | 0:42:14 | |
and it's all mushed together and moulded into shape. | 0:42:14 | 0:42:17 | |
And, yes, they would be much more affordable. | 0:42:17 | 0:42:20 | |
'Composition dolls are still very popular | 0:42:20 | 0:42:22 | |
'and collectors can pick up the most common for as little as £15 or £20.' | 0:42:22 | 0:42:28 | |
I rather like her, actually. | 0:42:28 | 0:42:29 | |
'Shirley's collection is predominantly | 0:42:35 | 0:42:38 | |
'composition and bisque.' | 0:42:38 | 0:42:39 | |
'But the dolls range in size, variety and, therefore, value.' | 0:42:43 | 0:42:47 | |
How much do you reckon you have spent on amassing the collection? | 0:42:51 | 0:42:55 | |
The most I've ever spent on a doll was £300, | 0:42:55 | 0:42:58 | |
but that was just a one-off, and some I've only paid £20, £10. | 0:42:58 | 0:43:02 | |
Yeah. | 0:43:02 | 0:43:03 | |
How much do you reckon the collection is worth? | 0:43:05 | 0:43:08 | |
Could be hundreds, I don't think it goes into thousands, | 0:43:08 | 0:43:11 | |
but it could be hundreds. | 0:43:11 | 0:43:13 | |
It would be interesting just to see | 0:43:13 | 0:43:15 | |
-if they have increased in value or gone down. -Yes. | 0:43:15 | 0:43:18 | |
'So, just what secrets does Shirley's collection hold? | 0:43:19 | 0:43:23 | |
'And what kind of nest egg has she built for her grandchildren?' | 0:43:23 | 0:43:25 | |
'In London it's removal day at James and Sarah's house.' | 0:43:31 | 0:43:35 | |
-It is huge! -Massive. | 0:43:35 | 0:43:37 | |
It needs to be big. | 0:43:37 | 0:43:38 | |
It does need to be big, Sarah, exactly. | 0:43:38 | 0:43:40 | |
'Everything must go so the building work in the attic can begin | 0:43:40 | 0:43:43 | |
'and the collection can be valued.' | 0:43:43 | 0:43:46 | |
-Until now the flow has been in, one way only. -Yes. | 0:43:46 | 0:43:51 | |
We're about to reverse that and move everything out. | 0:43:51 | 0:43:54 | |
-I'm so excited. -I've got a bad feeling about this. | 0:43:54 | 0:43:58 | |
Why? | 0:43:58 | 0:43:59 | |
No, it's just, you know, nervous, anxiety, you know. | 0:43:59 | 0:44:01 | |
It is positive. | 0:44:01 | 0:44:03 | |
'But, with so many boxes, it's going to be a huge task.' | 0:44:04 | 0:44:08 | |
What do you think about this, guys? | 0:44:08 | 0:44:10 | |
It's the first time I've ever seen anything quite like it, to be honest with you. | 0:44:10 | 0:44:13 | |
'And a huge upheaval for James.' | 0:44:13 | 0:44:15 | |
There was a loose figure that just went on the top. | 0:44:15 | 0:44:17 | |
Just be careful with the bubbles. | 0:44:17 | 0:44:19 | |
Dad's been threatening to cancel. | 0:44:19 | 0:44:21 | |
-Knowing him... -He feels a bit nervous. | 0:44:21 | 0:44:22 | |
Your collection is in safe hands, James. | 0:44:22 | 0:44:24 | |
-Yes, exactly, exactly. -Don't worry, it's in safe hands. | 0:44:24 | 0:44:27 | |
-Deep breaths. -Yep, I'm absolutely fine! | 0:44:27 | 0:44:29 | |
Are you really? | 0:44:31 | 0:44:32 | |
Um... | 0:44:32 | 0:44:34 | |
Valium would be quite good right now. A valium or a drink. | 0:44:34 | 0:44:37 | |
I notice your voice has gone up a few octaves there. | 0:44:37 | 0:44:40 | |
I think we'll leave it at that for the moment. | 0:44:41 | 0:44:44 | |
'No time to dwell, James, it's all happening today. | 0:44:44 | 0:44:48 | |
'Builder Stewart has arrived to work out how to get the collection | 0:44:48 | 0:44:51 | |
'out of boxes and on display.' | 0:44:51 | 0:44:53 | |
The first challenge is space, of course. What are you thinking? | 0:44:53 | 0:44:56 | |
Bearing in mind... | 0:44:56 | 0:44:57 | |
-This as well as what we've just seen? -It is, yes. | 0:44:57 | 0:44:59 | |
Wow, OK. You may have to get rid of some of it. | 0:44:59 | 0:45:03 | |
'The plan is to renovate the attic into a purpose-built showroom | 0:45:03 | 0:45:06 | |
'combined with storage units.' | 0:45:06 | 0:45:08 | |
And I know you had some concerns about lighting, Mark. | 0:45:08 | 0:45:11 | |
-I think we could either go for LED for halogen. -Yep. | 0:45:11 | 0:45:13 | |
-And I believe it's LED that doesn't generate heat. -That's right. | 0:45:13 | 0:45:16 | |
And I think with plastic figures you don't really want | 0:45:16 | 0:45:18 | |
to introduce them to a lot of heat. | 0:45:18 | 0:45:20 | |
And, most importantly, Sarah is putting her foot down. | 0:45:20 | 0:45:24 | |
This is it, isn't it? | 0:45:24 | 0:45:25 | |
James has his boundaries set for the Star Wars collection. | 0:45:25 | 0:45:28 | |
It's this room and outside on the landing, and going | 0:45:28 | 0:45:30 | |
down the stairs, up to Miriam's door and above her door, and that's it. | 0:45:30 | 0:45:35 | |
'The boxes are gone, everything's out | 0:45:37 | 0:45:39 | |
'and now it's time for everyone to see the transformation.' | 0:45:39 | 0:45:42 | |
-Ooh. -Wow! | 0:45:42 | 0:45:44 | |
-Wow! -This is so good. -It's so good! | 0:45:46 | 0:45:48 | |
-Night, Dad. -Look at this space! | 0:45:48 | 0:45:51 | |
Last time I think I probably touched the back wall, | 0:45:51 | 0:45:54 | |
I think...six years ago, when I was four? | 0:45:54 | 0:45:58 | |
-What do you think of the space? -It's amazing. | 0:45:58 | 0:46:00 | |
It's a really good use of the space. | 0:46:00 | 0:46:02 | |
-Miriam's enjoying the space down there. -SHE GIGGLES | 0:46:02 | 0:46:05 | |
'The Star Wars collection has all been moved | 0:46:08 | 0:46:11 | |
'to a 2,400 square foot storage space.' | 0:46:11 | 0:46:14 | |
'And I want to show James | 0:46:17 | 0:46:19 | |
'and Sarah just how much stuff was stuffed into their home. | 0:46:19 | 0:46:22 | |
'I think they're in for a surprise.' | 0:46:22 | 0:46:24 | |
OK. | 0:46:33 | 0:46:35 | |
Welcome to your collection. | 0:46:36 | 0:46:38 | |
That's mad. It's absolutely mad. | 0:46:38 | 0:46:41 | |
Ridiculous! | 0:46:42 | 0:46:43 | |
It sort of questions why you need to do this, doesn't it? | 0:46:43 | 0:46:46 | |
When you see a collection like this, why you need to have so much. | 0:46:46 | 0:46:49 | |
You don't need to have so much. | 0:46:49 | 0:46:51 | |
You need to choose what you want to collect and stick to that. | 0:46:51 | 0:46:53 | |
-Oh, 100%, 100%. -That's what you need to do. | 0:46:53 | 0:46:55 | |
'It's a positive step. | 0:46:55 | 0:46:56 | |
'James is starting to realise he doesn't need to have it all.' | 0:46:56 | 0:47:00 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:47:00 | 0:47:02 | |
The hysteria really has set in, hasn't it, now? | 0:47:02 | 0:47:05 | |
The shock of it all. | 0:47:05 | 0:47:07 | |
We made our house bigger | 0:47:08 | 0:47:09 | |
and squeezed the children into smaller and smaller spaces. | 0:47:09 | 0:47:12 | |
-This is obscene. -Do you feel a bit ashamed of it, as well? | 0:47:12 | 0:47:15 | |
Um... | 0:47:17 | 0:47:18 | |
I think I'm ashamed that I've let it get this far | 0:47:22 | 0:47:25 | |
without stepping back and doing something about it. | 0:47:25 | 0:47:27 | |
Self control is something you're going to have to | 0:47:27 | 0:47:30 | |
-exercise from now on. -100%, 100%. | 0:47:30 | 0:47:31 | |
See this? | 0:47:31 | 0:47:32 | |
-BANG -I'm putting my foot down. | 0:47:32 | 0:47:34 | |
That's fine. That's absolutely fine. | 0:47:34 | 0:47:36 | |
'An eye-opening experience all round, but there are signs James | 0:47:36 | 0:47:40 | |
'is becoming more of a collector and less of a hoarder. | 0:47:40 | 0:47:43 | |
'I can't wait to see everything displayed in all its glory. | 0:47:43 | 0:47:46 | |
'And, of course, find out how much it's all worth.' | 0:47:46 | 0:47:50 | |
'Like any collector, Shirley has invested time, | 0:47:53 | 0:47:56 | |
'money and emotion into her tribe of dolls.' | 0:47:56 | 0:47:58 | |
'After 50 years of collecting, | 0:48:00 | 0:48:02 | |
'it's time to reveal how much it's all worth. | 0:48:02 | 0:48:05 | |
'This will help Shirley's grandchildren make an informed | 0:48:05 | 0:48:08 | |
'decision on what they should do with the collection | 0:48:08 | 0:48:10 | |
'when they inherit it.' | 0:48:10 | 0:48:13 | |
Do you have figures in your head? | 0:48:13 | 0:48:15 | |
Not a couple of grand, but in the grand, I'd say. | 0:48:15 | 0:48:17 | |
-You'd say in the thousands? -Yeah. | 0:48:17 | 0:48:19 | |
-James? -Four grand? | 0:48:19 | 0:48:20 | |
Shirley, you said to me that you thought the collection | 0:48:20 | 0:48:24 | |
-was worth maybe the late hundreds, £800, £900. -Yeah, maybe. | 0:48:24 | 0:48:28 | |
OK. I'm desperate. Mark, please. | 0:48:28 | 0:48:30 | |
Come on, four eager faces. | 0:48:30 | 0:48:32 | |
Your collection of dolls, Shirley, and prams... | 0:48:32 | 0:48:36 | |
..if sold on today's market... | 0:48:38 | 0:48:40 | |
..would be worth in the region... | 0:48:41 | 0:48:44 | |
..of £27,000. | 0:48:47 | 0:48:50 | |
You're joking? | 0:48:51 | 0:48:53 | |
Oh, my days. | 0:48:53 | 0:48:55 | |
You're joking. Really? | 0:48:55 | 0:48:57 | |
£27,000. | 0:48:57 | 0:48:59 | |
£27,000. | 0:48:59 | 0:49:01 | |
Do I spot a little tear in your eye? | 0:49:02 | 0:49:05 | |
Well, it's shock, isn't it? | 0:49:05 | 0:49:06 | |
We need another of your cups of tea, I think, Shirley. | 0:49:06 | 0:49:09 | |
-I think we do, a nice strong brew. -A massively strong brew. | 0:49:09 | 0:49:12 | |
I never thought it'd be that much. | 0:49:12 | 0:49:14 | |
'Nor me, but Shirley's made some great investments.' | 0:49:14 | 0:49:18 | |
'Indeed. | 0:49:18 | 0:49:19 | |
'The prams alone are worth around £200 each, | 0:49:19 | 0:49:23 | |
'making up a staggering £14,000 of the total valuation.' | 0:49:23 | 0:49:27 | |
What did you pay for her Shirley? | 0:49:28 | 0:49:30 | |
Er, £16. | 0:49:30 | 0:49:32 | |
She's worth about £150 today. | 0:49:32 | 0:49:34 | |
I bought five of them like that. | 0:49:34 | 0:49:36 | |
'Shirley's intuition for buying dolls has paid off. | 0:49:36 | 0:49:39 | |
'When it does come time to sell the dolls, | 0:49:39 | 0:49:41 | |
'Shirley and the grandchildren have a number of options. | 0:49:41 | 0:49:45 | |
'There are auction houses, but they can carry heavy fees. | 0:49:45 | 0:49:48 | |
'Online auctions have lower fees, but can be time consuming. | 0:49:48 | 0:49:52 | |
'As Shirley wants her dolls to go to good homes, | 0:49:53 | 0:49:56 | |
'we're recommending a specialist dealer. | 0:49:56 | 0:49:59 | |
'They'll still charge a fee | 0:49:59 | 0:50:00 | |
'but they'll be able to find the best homes for the best prices.' | 0:50:00 | 0:50:04 | |
Shirley, I should imagine this will appeal to you. | 0:50:04 | 0:50:06 | |
They'll make sure they go to good homes. | 0:50:06 | 0:50:09 | |
-So it's less hassle. -Yeah. | 0:50:09 | 0:50:10 | |
And then you know you're getting your money's worth, as well. | 0:50:10 | 0:50:13 | |
'Hang on, though. Shirley's got other ideas.' | 0:50:13 | 0:50:16 | |
-I'm just not going anywhere. -Shirley! -I'm staying for ever. | 0:50:16 | 0:50:19 | |
We'll just get a big enough coffin to put them all in. | 0:50:19 | 0:50:22 | |
Actually the old Kings of Lithuania used to be buried | 0:50:22 | 0:50:26 | |
with all their horses buried around them. | 0:50:26 | 0:50:28 | |
I'm going to have a pyramid built, there we are. | 0:50:28 | 0:50:31 | |
I love this idea, | 0:50:31 | 0:50:32 | |
an enormous great mausoleum full of dolls watching you. | 0:50:32 | 0:50:35 | |
I'll get my own pyramid built. | 0:50:35 | 0:50:37 | |
Could you do something just with that space? A little cupboardy... | 0:50:40 | 0:50:43 | |
Yeah, we could do for smaller artworks, you know, | 0:50:43 | 0:50:46 | |
like you say, little bi-fold doors that concertina against each other. | 0:50:46 | 0:50:49 | |
'To show off his ever-expanding collection of 350 prints, | 0:50:49 | 0:50:53 | |
'Graham took drastic steps, | 0:50:53 | 0:50:55 | |
'buying the house next door and knocking through.' | 0:50:55 | 0:50:57 | |
'But to solve his display problems, | 0:50:59 | 0:51:01 | |
'we've come up with a rather unusual solution - | 0:51:01 | 0:51:03 | |
'put the walls back up.' | 0:51:03 | 0:51:05 | |
Think I preferred the sliding panels. | 0:51:05 | 0:51:08 | |
Certainly it's worth considering in a way | 0:51:08 | 0:51:10 | |
that I would have even remotely thought of it before today. | 0:51:10 | 0:51:14 | |
'That's great news, and it means he can buy more prints.' | 0:51:14 | 0:51:18 | |
'Only if they're worth it. | 0:51:18 | 0:51:20 | |
'Graham thought he'd spent £50,000 plus on his collection.' | 0:51:20 | 0:51:24 | |
Graham, I'm in the dark. | 0:51:24 | 0:51:26 | |
So, Mark, come on spill the old financial beans. | 0:51:26 | 0:51:28 | |
If you were to sell your whole collection on the open market | 0:51:28 | 0:51:33 | |
at auction, we feel that it would fetch in the region | 0:51:33 | 0:51:37 | |
of £85,000. | 0:51:37 | 0:51:39 | |
Mm-hm. | 0:51:40 | 0:51:42 | |
Well, that's nice to know, | 0:51:42 | 0:51:43 | |
and nice to know it's moved in that direction, I must say. | 0:51:43 | 0:51:47 | |
'Our valuer identified 48 key prints that make up | 0:51:48 | 0:51:53 | |
'more than 50% of the total value.' | 0:51:53 | 0:51:55 | |
'There's a Paula Rego piece from her hugely popular | 0:51:55 | 0:51:58 | |
'Peter Pan series from the early '90s. | 0:51:58 | 0:52:01 | |
'At nearly £2,000, it's more than double what Graham paid for it. | 0:52:01 | 0:52:05 | |
'And, of course, the quartet of Colin Wiggins collaborations | 0:52:07 | 0:52:11 | |
'that are so rare.' | 0:52:11 | 0:52:13 | |
Do you know how much you paid for them? | 0:52:13 | 0:52:15 | |
Yes, £600 each. | 0:52:15 | 0:52:17 | |
Your £600 each has turned into, for the full set, | 0:52:17 | 0:52:23 | |
around £6,500. | 0:52:23 | 0:52:25 | |
MEL WHISTLES Wow. | 0:52:25 | 0:52:28 | |
That's, er, produced a rosy glow. | 0:52:28 | 0:52:30 | |
This was certainly one of my better judgments. | 0:52:30 | 0:52:32 | |
'It certainly was. | 0:52:32 | 0:52:34 | |
'Graham's clearly got a great eye, | 0:52:34 | 0:52:36 | |
'and if he takes Sir John Soane's lead, | 0:52:36 | 0:52:38 | |
'he should have plenty of room for more purchases.' | 0:52:38 | 0:52:41 | |
-Tempted to sell it? -No. | 0:52:41 | 0:52:44 | |
Not for anything? | 0:52:44 | 0:52:45 | |
No, it's part of me, | 0:52:45 | 0:52:46 | |
and it's been part of nearly 40 years of collecting, | 0:52:46 | 0:52:49 | |
and if we get the sliding partitions done | 0:52:49 | 0:52:51 | |
we might even have a few more pieces. | 0:52:51 | 0:52:54 | |
24 pictures, Graham. 24 pictures on two doors. | 0:52:54 | 0:52:57 | |
-Well... -Quite exciting, eh? | 0:52:57 | 0:52:59 | |
Yes, and I wonder how long I can spin that out for. | 0:52:59 | 0:53:02 | |
There's one more person to see. | 0:53:04 | 0:53:06 | |
It's been six weeks since James's 35,000-piece collection | 0:53:07 | 0:53:11 | |
was removed from his house and the attic conversion began. | 0:53:11 | 0:53:14 | |
Seeing all of those boxes laid out was just an unbelievable moment. | 0:53:19 | 0:53:25 | |
It has changed my whole outlook on collecting. | 0:53:25 | 0:53:28 | |
I didn't have the control before over what was coming | 0:53:28 | 0:53:31 | |
into the house and how it was being displayed, and... | 0:53:31 | 0:53:34 | |
And now I have that control back, and it's not going to take over | 0:53:34 | 0:53:38 | |
the rest of the house again. | 0:53:38 | 0:53:40 | |
Cos I won't let it. | 0:53:40 | 0:53:42 | |
Well, it looks the same from the outside. | 0:53:42 | 0:53:46 | |
It does indeed. | 0:53:46 | 0:53:47 | |
'It's finally time for us to see the renovations | 0:53:47 | 0:53:49 | |
'and reveal just how much James's collection is worth.' | 0:53:49 | 0:53:52 | |
-Hello. -Hello. | 0:53:52 | 0:53:53 | |
-How are you? -Good to see you, James. | 0:53:53 | 0:53:55 | |
'The empire begins on the staircase.' | 0:53:57 | 0:54:00 | |
Oh, my lord, I can see it. | 0:54:02 | 0:54:04 | |
Oh! | 0:54:04 | 0:54:06 | |
'James's mint on card figures line the walls | 0:54:06 | 0:54:09 | |
'like a piece of postmodern abstract artwork.' | 0:54:09 | 0:54:12 | |
-You can actually see the stuff. -Yes. | 0:54:12 | 0:54:15 | |
So is that the kind of invisible barrier there? | 0:54:15 | 0:54:18 | |
Yes, just here and also above Miriam's door. | 0:54:18 | 0:54:21 | |
I think they look absolutely extraordinary. | 0:54:21 | 0:54:24 | |
What do you think guys? | 0:54:24 | 0:54:25 | |
I think it's great. I think it's absolutely brilliant. Sarah? | 0:54:25 | 0:54:27 | |
It's worked out so much better than we could ever have imagined. | 0:54:27 | 0:54:31 | |
'But it's in the attic where the real change has taken place.' | 0:54:31 | 0:54:35 | |
That is beautiful. Look at it! | 0:54:37 | 0:54:40 | |
Oh, my goodness, it feels so big! | 0:54:40 | 0:54:43 | |
This is the room where the bunk beds were, isn't it? | 0:54:43 | 0:54:46 | |
-Yep. -Yeah. | 0:54:46 | 0:54:48 | |
'Gone are the bunk beds and boxes, | 0:54:48 | 0:54:50 | |
'and in their places LED lighting, | 0:54:50 | 0:54:52 | |
'glass shelves and plenty of storage.' | 0:54:52 | 0:54:54 | |
-Slightly freaked out by the Vader head. -THEY LAUGH | 0:54:54 | 0:54:57 | |
'Even the sloping ceilings have been put to use.' | 0:54:57 | 0:55:01 | |
Look at all these amazing things. | 0:55:01 | 0:55:03 | |
They all look as if they're doing | 0:55:03 | 0:55:04 | |
the thing that they were meant to do. | 0:55:04 | 0:55:06 | |
They were made for display, not for storing in a box | 0:55:06 | 0:55:09 | |
-in a big pile in the corner of a room. -100%, 100%. | 0:55:09 | 0:55:11 | |
Whilst we're here, do you want to handle a lightsaber? | 0:55:11 | 0:55:14 | |
So when did you actually last handle these? | 0:55:14 | 0:55:16 | |
Some of them had never been opened. | 0:55:16 | 0:55:18 | |
How on earth could you leave it that long? | 0:55:18 | 0:55:20 | |
They were in a box, he couldn't get at them. | 0:55:20 | 0:55:23 | |
-Says it all, doesn't it, really? -It does, it does. | 0:55:23 | 0:55:25 | |
'It's an amazing contrast and a whole new attitude to collecting.' | 0:55:25 | 0:55:29 | |
This whole process will change what I buy moving forward and how I buy. | 0:55:29 | 0:55:32 | |
Instead of buying five or six, you know, just buy one thing | 0:55:32 | 0:55:35 | |
because I actually like it. | 0:55:35 | 0:55:36 | |
Do you think you've turned into a different type of collector? | 0:55:36 | 0:55:39 | |
-Yeah, definitely. -And would you see that as a progression? | 0:55:39 | 0:55:42 | |
-Yes, yes. -In what way? -It's growing up. | 0:55:42 | 0:55:43 | |
-Are you proud of him? -I'm really proud of him. | 0:55:43 | 0:55:46 | |
He's saying things that I never thought I'd hear him say. | 0:55:46 | 0:55:48 | |
So if it was like this, would you mind it growing a little more? | 0:55:48 | 0:55:51 | |
As long as it grows in the room. The line has been drawn. | 0:55:51 | 0:55:54 | |
'James finally has the collection under control | 0:55:56 | 0:55:58 | |
'and Sarah and the kids have their house back. | 0:55:58 | 0:56:01 | |
'And, even better, James is showing a commitment to keep it that way, | 0:56:01 | 0:56:05 | |
'as he's agreed to sell 29 boxes off at auction.' | 0:56:05 | 0:56:08 | |
'So, come on Mark, tell us what the whole collection's worth. | 0:56:08 | 0:56:12 | |
'James thinks he's spent between £25,000 | 0:56:12 | 0:56:14 | |
'and £30,000 on his Star Wars stuff.' | 0:56:14 | 0:56:16 | |
We've had a specialist go through your collection, | 0:56:17 | 0:56:20 | |
and we feel that if we were to put it into auction | 0:56:20 | 0:56:23 | |
it would fetch somewhere in the region | 0:56:23 | 0:56:26 | |
of £45,000 to £55,000. | 0:56:26 | 0:56:29 | |
-OK. -That's... | 0:56:30 | 0:56:31 | |
That's a good thing. | 0:56:31 | 0:56:33 | |
-It's nice to know that it hasn't gone down. That's really nice. -Yes. | 0:56:33 | 0:56:36 | |
Does that make you happy, James? | 0:56:36 | 0:56:38 | |
I don't know what it makes me, to be honest, because I'm not... | 0:56:38 | 0:56:42 | |
I genuinely am not really bothered about the money side of it. | 0:56:42 | 0:56:44 | |
I'm doing it because I enjoy it. | 0:56:44 | 0:56:47 | |
'James has nearly doubled the money he spent, | 0:56:47 | 0:56:50 | |
'and the star item is his much-loved Clone Trooper.' | 0:56:50 | 0:56:53 | |
He's incredibly scarce. What is it - five of these were made? | 0:56:53 | 0:56:57 | |
-Yes, that's right. -Only five? -Only five. | 0:56:57 | 0:56:59 | |
'Our valuer thinks James could expect around £1,000, | 0:56:59 | 0:57:03 | |
'but with no previous sales as a benchmark | 0:57:03 | 0:57:06 | |
'it could fetch far, far more.' | 0:57:06 | 0:57:08 | |
There will always be more than five people | 0:57:08 | 0:57:11 | |
who'll want to collect this. | 0:57:11 | 0:57:13 | |
-I mean, if two people get behind it, 3, 4, £5,000. -Yep. | 0:57:13 | 0:57:16 | |
They've never been seen for sale before on the open market. | 0:57:16 | 0:57:20 | |
But it's plastic bricks! | 0:57:20 | 0:57:22 | |
But the hands are moveable, slightly. | 0:57:22 | 0:57:24 | |
-Ooh! -SHE LAUGHS | 0:57:26 | 0:57:28 | |
'Luckily for me, the money doesn't mean that much to James and Sarah.' | 0:57:28 | 0:57:32 | |
'They've got their house back | 0:57:32 | 0:57:34 | |
'and a wonderful collection they can now enjoy.' | 0:57:34 | 0:57:37 | |
I don't think either of us | 0:57:37 | 0:57:39 | |
had any control over what was being collected. | 0:57:39 | 0:57:42 | |
Now I know that we've got the control back. | 0:57:42 | 0:57:44 | |
James has control, I have control - it's a better situation to be in. | 0:57:44 | 0:57:47 | |
I'm very happy that I've given the family their home back. | 0:57:47 | 0:57:50 | |
I think that was very, very important. | 0:57:50 | 0:57:52 | |
It was obviously selfish of me for what I was doing | 0:57:52 | 0:57:55 | |
and I think I needed a kick to break that cycle. | 0:57:55 | 0:57:58 | |
I can't remember the last time it was a proper family home, | 0:58:01 | 0:58:06 | |
and now it's a proper family home again. | 0:58:06 | 0:58:09 | |
Our work here is done. | 0:58:09 | 0:58:10 | |
Oh! There we go. | 0:58:18 | 0:58:19 | |
It's turned out nice again, hasn't it? | 0:58:21 | 0:58:23 | |
-Mmm, it has, actually. -Very clement. | 0:58:23 | 0:58:26 | |
DEEP BREATHING | 0:58:26 | 0:58:28 | |
SHE COUGHS | 0:58:28 | 0:58:30 | |
'Excuse me.' | 0:58:30 | 0:58:31 |