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-I'm following in the footsteps

-of Welsh people...

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-..who have ventured to foreign

-countries over the centuries.

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-The journeys encompass

-tragedies, scandals and wars.

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-I'll see

-what the countries are like now...

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-..records of the original journeys

-and what remains of their world.

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-From Aberystwyth to Germany

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-This story starts in Aberystwyth

-and returns here.

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-It calls in Oxford...

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-..and continues to Germany.

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-It's a story of mystery and scandal.

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-It includes the Nazis,

-Communists and real spies.

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-It's the story of Goronwy Rees,

-the son of a Methodist minister...

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-..an Aberystwyth-born Welsh speaker

-who turned his back on the language.

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-At the beginning

-of the 20th century...

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-..Goronwy was a happy child

-living in Aberystwyth.

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-His father, RJ Rees,

-was the minister of Tabernacl.

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-Goronwy's father's chapel

-has long gone.

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-It would have looked

-something like this.

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-Goronwy Rees had vivid descriptions

-of being there.

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-One was a happy portrait, sitting

-comfortably in the chapel...

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-..with the sun's rays

-shining through the window.

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-Another was full of fear seeing

-his father preaching in the pulpit.

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-The tender man

-bursting into life during a sermon.

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-One saw before one's eyes

-a man quite suddenly transformed...

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-..into a witch doctor,

-demoniac and possessed.

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-The hwyl inspired fear in me

-and a kind of shuddering...

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-..from such a bare faced...

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-..bare-breasted display

-of real or simulated emotion...

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-..and also a kind of alarm.

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-Years later, Goronwy Rees

-would compare that to Hitler...

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-..attacking people with words

-until they stopped thinking.

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-By World War I, RJ Rees encouraged

-young men to join the war effort...

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-..which upset a few people.

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-My father and his father

-were cousins and once good friends.

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-That ended during World War I.

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-He was preaching about the war

-and my father walked out.

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-There were some angry exchanges.

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-There was further anger in 1922

-over politics.

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-RJ Rees moved to live in Cardiff

-and worked in the Valleys.

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-As a result, at the age of 13...

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-..Goronwy Rees'

-Welsh-language upbringing ended.

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-He would later describe it

-as leaving paradise.

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-He detested the Welsh establishment

-for the rest of his life.

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-It's possible that Goronwy, who was

-happy as a child in Aberystwyth...

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-..felt that he was exiled from his

-old home when he moved to Cardiff.

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-That played a part

-in his mindset...

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-..and his relationship

-with Aberystwyth.

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-The move from Ceredigion to Cardiff

-was major...

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-..but the next step was greater,

-from Wales to New College, Oxford...

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-..in the autumn of 1928,

-when he was 18 years old.

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-He was a grammar school boy

-and a Welsh speaker.

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-He joined a closed community

-which was like a club...

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-..a club packed with the sons

-of great men.

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-A club packed with

-the privileged and the wealthy...

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-..a handful of women, but most

-were men from boarding schools.

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-For Goronwy Rees,

-it felt as unfamiliar as Timbuktu.

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-And as unfamiliar

-as the upper class families.

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-He was asked,

-"Do you know the Angleseys?"

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-He replied, "There's only one."

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-At the time, he supported Marxism

-and socialism...

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-..and his accent was different.

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-He decided it was time to grow up.

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-He couldn't do that through an

-old-fashioned language like Welsh.

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-Whatever Goronwy Rees said

-about not belonging...

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-..he had created a good impression

-on many people.

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-Many spoke about the good-looking,

-talented Celt, a great orator...

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-..the one who attracted the girls

-and impressed the men.

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-If he sounded like someone who spoke

-a second language at the start...

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-..by the end of his three years,

-he'd mastered the accent and style.

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-According to

-Goronwy Rees' daughter...

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-..he could adapt his life

-to fit in with every situation.

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-Strikingly, when we recall

-his greatest scandal...

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-..he saw himself as a spy.

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-The role of a spy depended on

-submerging one's identity...

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-..and achieving anonymity which

-would allow one to pass unnoticed...

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-..even in the enemy's

-most secret citadels.

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-Fitting into society is an issue

-for Oxford's Welsh students today.

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-I was thinking, "Am I going to fit

-in? Will I be able to speak Welsh?

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-"Will people think I'm odd because

-I'm not from England or London...

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-.."or I didn't attend Eton

-or wherever else they went?"

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-After a couple of days, I was happy.

-I had friends.

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-There's a stereotype of people

-with great wealth and it's not true.

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-Most people here are normal.

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-How unusual is it for someone

-of your background to attend Oxford?

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-To be a Welsh speaker...

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-..who didn't attend grammar school

-or boarding school...

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-..there aren't many.

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-Recent statistics showed

-that 44 students...

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-..gained a place in Oxford

-and Cambridge combined in one year.

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-When you tell people

-you speak Welsh...

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-..they don't think

-anyone speaks Welsh.

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-They usually ask me to pronounce

-the name of that long train station.

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-It's almost like a party trick,

-that you can speak Welsh.

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-According to one of his cousins,

-Goronwy felt that the brakes...

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-..were truly released

-when he arrived.

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-He was now a student in a different

-world with different rules.

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-He spent his time debating

-about socialism and Communism.

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-It was a sexually

-liberating world...

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-..where confident women

-and gay men were accepted.

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-Pleasure was a virtue, not a sin.

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-The actual people I met there really

-made an enormous impression on me...

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-..chiefly because

-they were so different...

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-..to anybody I'd met in Wales.

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-One thing, of course, pleasure

-was very important in their lives.

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-Now in Wales, pleasure was not

-a thing that is very important.

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-People like having a nice time

-and all that...

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-..but pleasure

-as a real object in life...

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-..is not a thing

-that flourishes in Wales.

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-The manse's son

-was making the most of his freedom.

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-The university's chaplain

-once said of him...

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-.."He is far too great a social

-success, he will never get a First."

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-Three years later...

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-..Goronwy secured a First in

-Philosophy, Politics and Economics.

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-He shone amongst the brightest,

-socially and academically.

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-Straight after graduating,

-there was a clear indication...

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-..that Oxford

-had accepted Goronwy Rees.

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-He was chosen to be

-a fellow at All Souls College.

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-It's one of the greatest honours

-Oxford University can grant.

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-In 1931, Goronwy Rees was the first

-Welshman from a common school...

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-..to receive that honour.

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-It was rather unusual to go

-straight from a degree course...

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-..to be a fellow at All Souls.

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-His old school, Cardiff High, gave

-the entire school half a day off.

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-Goronwy Rees had mixed feelings.

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-The establishment accepted him...

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-..but he couldn't accept

-being part of the establishment.

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-He was paid well for two years,

-had support for another five...

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-..no work pressure

-and plenty of privileges.

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-In 1934,

-there was one fateful night.

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-It was the night

-Goronwy Rees met Guy Burgess...

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-..a man who would become renowned

-for being a Russian spy.

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-At the time, he was Cambridge

-University's brightest student.

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-On a visit to Oxford

-after a dinner...

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-..both men returned to All Souls...

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-..to smoke, drink and talk.

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-For 20 years, they had a close

-yet strange relationship...

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-..which both strengthened

-and destroyed that bond.

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-The eventual consequence

-of that first meeting...

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-..would lead to the darkest period

-of Goronwy Rees' life.

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-Years later, he said that Burgess

-had been a great influence on him.

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-He was great company,

-a well-known homosexual...

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-..a heavy drinker and a learned man,

-from art to Communism.

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-Both shared the same ideas.

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-Burgess was a Communist

-and supported Russia.

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-During the 1930s,

-we know that Burgess told Rees...

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-..that he and another man,

-Anthony Blunt, were Russian spies.

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-What's less clear

-is Goronwy Rees' response.

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-Burgess has tried to get Rees

-into bed with him...

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-..and then turned him into a spy.

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-He refused the former, there are

-serious doubts about the latter.

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-If he had turned his back

-on Wales...

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-..Goronwy Rees also felt

-that Oxford was too restrictive.

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-Travelling had become popular.

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-Many students take gap years today.

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-The children of the privileged

-in the '20s and '30s...

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-..travelled around Europe

-to countries such as Germany...

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-..searching for opportunities,

-experiences and places to write.

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-The lost Welshman from Aberystwyth

-joined them.

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-For young fashionable people

-at the end of the '20s...

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-..Germany was the place to be.

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-The Kaiser was gone and the

-Weimar Republic had replaced him.

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-By the second half of the '20s,

-it was a golden age for Germany.

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-The economy flourished.

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-Artists, musicians

-and architects were prominent.

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-Many thought

-that this was the future.

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-Goronwy Rees

-wanted to be part of it.

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-What's often forgotten

-is the revolution in Germany...

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-..the year after

-the Russian Revolution.

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-The November Revolution of 1918...

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-..when the Kaiser abdicated

-and a republic was established.

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-This is the origin

-of a republic in Germany.

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-It was an exciting time.

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-If he yearned for excitement

-when he arrived in Germany...

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-..instead of heading to Berlin,

-he found himself in the rural east.

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-He was surrounded

-by a sea of corn fields.

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-Instead of meeting

-revolutionary socialists...

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-..he taught English

-to the son of a wealthy family.

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-A family

-that believed in race, nation...

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-..and the old Germanic way of life.

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-He describes the barons

-he meets in Silesia.

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-To him, it was a shock.

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-He didn't expect Germans

-to be like that.

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-He expected them all

-to be socialists.

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-These people didn't believe

-their country could have lost a war.

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-In the middle of the cornfields...

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-..there was fertile land

-for extremist ideas for the country.

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-Goronwy's pupil

-was a pleasant young man...

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-..filled with hateful ideas.

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-I solved this contradiction

-for myself by dismissing them...

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-..as the imaginings

-of a half-educated schoolboy.

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-I never came to suspect that,

-in various forms...

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-..they were shared by thousands

-of men and women all over Germany.

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-On his second visit to Germany,

-Goronwy Rees reached Berlin.

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-This cinema building hasn't changed

-since it was opened in 1929.

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-It gives us an idea

-of what kind of city Berlin was...

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-..when Goronwy visited

-for the first time...

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-..and why he wanted to come here.

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-The city of Marlene Dietrich, clubs,

-cabaret and Bauhaus designers.

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-The city of sexual freedom...

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-..which attracted

-fashionable English authors...

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-..and the young Oxford elite.

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-After emerging from the shadows

-of World War I...

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-..and the financial difficulties

-of its aftermath...

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-..there was

-a renewed sense of freedom here.

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-Today, it has emerged

-from the shadows...

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-..of the wall that split the city...

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-..and it attracts youngsters

-from across Europe.

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-Anwen Roberts has lived in Germany

-for the past year.

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-I really enjoy living here

-because of all the opportunities.

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-It's an adventure too, of course.

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-There's the creative world

-and the fashion world.

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-East Berlin attracts

-the younger generation...

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-..because it's cheaper

-to live there.

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-My friends

-enjoy visiting those places.

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-There's a sense of freedom here.

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-On the way here, I saw a woman

-in her 40s wearing next to nothing.

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-She was wearing colourful stockings!

-No-one batted an eyelid.

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-You can live here with freedom...

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-..but I'd say

-it was a respectable freedom.

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-You must respect

-the freedom of others.

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-Freedom was the buzz word

-at the end of the 1920s.

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-Social and political freedom

-was attractive...

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-..to a socialist student in Oxford.

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-There was a new,

-exciting political world.

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-Cultural trends were changing...

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-..Jazz had been introduced

-from America.

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-Josephine Baker was performing

-in a costume of feathers.

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-Imagine someone from Aberystwyth,

-a student in Oxford...

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-..who has very traditional

-and conservative values...

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-..reading in the newspaper about

-a half-naked black woman performing.

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-It was attractive for youngsters.

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-Goronwy spent Easter 1932 travelling

-through Germany and Austria.

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-That summer, he returned to Germany.

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-Goronwy Rees came here

-during the summer of 1932.

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-The small village of Wickersdorf,

-up in the central German hills.

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-He came here with his girlfriend.

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-They both intended to write.

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-At the time, a pioneering school

-was situated here...

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-..an early version

-of the Steiner School.

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-They thought it would be a

-suitable place to find inspiration.

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-Many of the buildings

-are still here...

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-..but today it's a centre for people

-with learning disabilities.

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-The peace and tranquillity remain.

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-It appeared that Goronwy Rees

-would become an author.

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-He published a novel,

-The Summer Flood...

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-..partly based on his own life.

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-It discussed the love

-of a man towards his cousin...

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-..and included a gay character.

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-He started writing

-for The Guardian and The Spectator.

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-A second novel was being written.

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-Writing books is the only thing

-I'm serious about...

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-..and I think mine is good.

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-The summer of 1932

-sounded almost idyllic.

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-Goronwy Rees and his girlfriend

-spent time walking in the woods.

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-They were amazed at the beauty

-of the countryside and the village.

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-There were only two shadows.

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-The bouts of depression

-Goronwy endured...

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-..and the dark political clouds

-that gathered over Germany.

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-Part of the depression stemmed from

-his mother's death a year earlier.

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-She forgave him everything

-and he adored her.

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-He wrote in a letter to a friend...

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-..that life was unbearable

-without her.

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-He was also worried about Germany.

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-The Depression

-shattered the Golden Age...

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-..and extremists were benefitting.

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-Two new names became prominent -

-Adolf Hitler and Nazism.

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-Goronwy Rees visited Berlin

-to see for himself.

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-Hitler had an army

-of 400,000 unofficial soldiers...

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-..attacking

-and even killing detractors...

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-..especially Jews and socialists.

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-The Nazis were brutal

-and unrelenting...

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-..but many German people

-welcomed them.

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-During the chaos

-that followed the Depression...

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-..they offered law and order

-and some popular policies.

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-Then came the election

-on the final day of July 1932.

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-14 million Germans

-voted for the Nazi Party.

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-It had more power

-than any other party had ever had.

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-The gloves were well and truly off.

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-How could a country

-as open as Germany in the 1920s...

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-..turn to someone like Hitler

-within three or four years?

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-That's a difficult question

-to answer.

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-Of course, you could say,...

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-..that we face similar times today.

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-What's gone wrong when someone

-like Donald Trump assumes power?

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-At the beginning of the 1930s...

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-..you had

-the Great Depression in America.

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-Germany relied on America

-for financial aid.

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-The German economy shrunk...

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-..and a lot of people

-were unemployed again.

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-At that point,

-you had the Nazi Party...

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-..a right-wing party, being elected

-to the Reichstag for the first time.

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-That was a huge shock.

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-You had a dictatorship

-to all intents...

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-..under the guise

-of a republican government...

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-..throughout the 1930s.

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-You then had

-the propaganda machine...

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-..similar to what we see

-with some people today.

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-In 1934, Goronwy Rees

-spent the winter in Berlin.

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-It was cold in many ways.

0:19:550:19:56

-Hitler's soldiers

-controlled the streets.

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-Hundreds of thousands of people

-were persecuted and imprisoned.

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-The press

-had been completely smothered.

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-As a result,

-people were apathetic...

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-..and grateful to see

-some sort of order.

0:20:120:20:15

-For Goronwy,

-it was a city of ghosts.

0:20:150:20:17

-He saw both the ghosts of the past

-and the ghosts of the future.

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-Here what seems

-a nightmare in London...

0:20:230:20:26

-..is the sober, everyday reality.

0:20:260:20:29

-No mercy, no pity, no peace, neither

-humanity, nor decency of kindness.

0:20:290:20:34

-Only madness, shouted every day on

-the wireless and in the newspapers.

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-60 million people

-proud to be governed...

0:20:390:20:41

-..by a gang of murderous animals.

0:20:420:20:44

-During that winter in Berlin

-in 1934...

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-..Goronwy Rees undertook

-secret political work.

0:20:500:20:53

-He had a socialist friend at a time

-when there were few socialists.

0:20:530:20:58

-Goronwy helped him distribute

-pamphlets and information...

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-..to Hitler's opponents

-across the city.

0:21:020:21:05

-Goronwy acknowledged that this

-was a romantic undertaking...

0:21:050:21:09

-..but his friend

-was risking his life.

0:21:090:21:12

-Goronwy Rees realised that only

-an outside force could stop Hitler.

0:21:140:21:19

-The Nazis had complete control

-of the press and information.

0:21:190:21:23

-People accepted their truth.

0:21:240:21:26

-In a Berlin rally, he heard Hitler

-brainwashing the crowd...

0:21:260:21:30

-..creating unbearable tension,

-playing on their fears...

0:21:310:21:35

-..and feeding their secret hopes.

0:21:350:21:38

-Who knows, if I had not been

-inoculated in childhood...

0:21:380:21:41

-..against the tricks of oratory,

-I might have succumbed myself.

0:21:420:21:46

-Goronwy was connected

-to the two greatest movements...

0:21:480:21:51

-..that affected Europe and the world

-during the 20th century.

0:21:510:21:55

-He saw the rise of Nazism in Germany

-and it frightened him.

0:21:550:21:59

-Then came Communism.

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-In Oxford, it was fashionable

-to dabble in socialism.

0:22:010:22:05

-During the 1930s, Goronwy

-followed the ideology of Karl Marx.

0:22:050:22:10

-His relationship with Russia

-was complex.

0:22:100:22:13

-Like the spy, Guy Burgess,

-he considered himself a socialist...

0:22:130:22:18

-..but he didn't agree

-with everything the Communists did.

0:22:180:22:22

-However, he believed that Russia

-could challenge the Nazis.

0:22:220:22:26

-Enough to spy for them?

0:22:270:22:29

-Whatever the answer, in 1939,

-Russia signed a deal with Germany...

0:22:290:22:34

-..promising not to fight.

0:22:340:22:36

-For Goronwy Rees, that was the end.

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-Goronwy Rees sensed the storms

-of World War II approaching...

0:22:480:22:53

-..on seeing Hitler in Berlin.

0:22:530:22:55

-He'd hoped to see Russia

-standing up to Nazism...

0:22:550:22:58

-..but was left disappointed.

0:22:580:23:00

-The pact between

-Hitler and Stalin in 1939...

0:23:010:23:03

-..signalled the end

-of Goronwy's flirtation with Russia.

0:23:030:23:07

-Any doubts about his attitude

-were now forgotten.

0:23:070:23:11

-After seeing Hitler in action,

-he was ready to fight.

0:23:120:23:17

-Surprisingly for some

-of his friends...

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-..months before the start

-of World War II, he decided to act.

0:23:200:23:23

-He joined the TAs,

-the territorial army...

0:23:240:23:28

-..the voluntary reserve army.

0:23:280:23:31

-Goronwy Rees described

-his division of the TAs as rabble.

0:23:330:23:37

-It was an excuse for him

-not to take it too seriously.

0:23:380:23:42

-He gave the impression that it was a

-surprise when he was commissioned...

0:23:420:23:47

-..to join the regular army as

-an officer with the Welch Fusiliers.

0:23:470:23:52

-He went to join the upper classes

-at Sandhurst Military College.

0:23:520:23:56

-In the army, Goronwy Rees

-met 19-year-old Margie Morris.

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-She drove a lorry

-as part of the war effort.

0:24:030:24:06

-She was different

-to the privileged, academic girls...

0:24:060:24:10

-..he'd been with before.

0:24:100:24:12

-His friends were wary - there was

-an age gap and they were different.

0:24:120:24:16

-Everything happened so quickly.

0:24:170:24:19

-They were married in December 1940.

0:24:190:24:22

-The great womaniser later said this.

0:24:220:24:25

-It turned out to be

-the happiest marriage...

0:24:250:24:28

-..one could possibly have had.

0:24:280:24:30

-This place was cleared

-relatively recently.

0:24:310:24:34

-It's a fort built 120 years ago

-to protect London...

0:24:340:24:38

-..following tensions with France.

0:24:390:24:41

-It was used during World War II.

0:24:410:24:43

-In the bowels of this hill,

-there's a network of tunnels...

0:24:440:24:48

-..dug by South Wales miners

0:24:480:24:50

-The tunnels lead to the war room

-of General Montgomery...

0:24:500:24:55

-..and the mansion where he lived.

0:24:560:24:59

-The tunnels are now closed and

-no-one's sure what's left behind.

0:24:590:25:03

-Like Goronwy's life,

-there's a little mystery.

0:25:030:25:06

-Montgomery was one

-of the army's heads...

0:25:090:25:12

-..responsible for defending

-South-east England.

0:25:130:25:16

-Goronwy joined him

-in Reigate, Surrey.

0:25:160:25:19

-He was chosen

-because of his sharp mind.

0:25:200:25:23

-This building, a hotel commandeered

-by the army, housed the officers.

0:25:230:25:30

-Goronwy had special duties

-and worked closely with Montgomery.

0:25:300:25:34

-Often, late at night,

-he would meet Montgomery...

0:25:340:25:39

-..while he lay in his bed

-in his flannelette pyjamas.

0:25:400:25:44

-Montgomery had chosen Goronwy

-as his link...

0:25:440:25:47

-..between himself and the leaders

-of the armed forces...

0:25:470:25:51

-..as they organised an attack...

0:25:510:25:53

-..that should have changed

-the course of the war.

0:25:530:25:56

-They planned to attack a beach

-in Northern France.

0:25:590:26:02

-Goronwy had researched

-maps and postcards...

0:26:030:26:06

-..anything available with

-information about Dieppe, Normandy.

0:26:060:26:11

-The aim was to capture the port

-for a short time...

0:26:110:26:15

-..to show that Britain was serious

-about fighting on mainland Europe.

0:26:150:26:20

-August 19, 1942, was the date.

0:26:240:26:27

-The day of Operation Jubilee.

0:26:280:26:30

-The ships sailed overnight.

0:26:310:26:33

-The aim was to attack

-at the break of dawn.

0:26:330:26:36

-By then,

-Goronwy Rees was a mere observer...

0:26:360:26:39

-..but he saw more than enough.

0:26:390:26:42

-A strange, round object in the sea.

-He realised it was a soldier's head.

0:26:420:26:47

-He saw a look of surprise

-on the face of a nearby soldier.

0:26:470:26:51

-When he fell, he realised why.

0:26:510:26:53

-A piece of metal had sliced his leg

-clear above the knee.

0:26:530:26:57

-Then there was chaos on the beaches.

0:26:580:27:01

-As much as one could see, the troops

-had failed to clear the beaches...

0:27:050:27:10

-..the tanks

-had not penetrated the town...

0:27:100:27:13

-..the men on the beaches

-were exposed to a murderous fire.

0:27:140:27:18

-This is where the carnage happened.

0:27:200:27:23

-Goronwy's ship was out

-towards the west.

0:27:230:27:26

-Every now and then, he glimpsed

-the beach through the smoke.

0:27:260:27:31

-He could see the landing vehicles

-lying here in pieces.

0:27:310:27:35

-He could see the large tanks

-stuck in the gravel...

0:27:350:27:39

-..but from his viewpoint, he

-couldn't see the hundreds of bodies.

0:27:390:27:43

-He later saw

-some of the soldiers who survived.

0:27:440:27:47

-I thought this is what

-a beaten army looks like.

0:27:480:27:52

-No army is beaten until it loses

-faith in those who command it.

0:27:520:27:56

-These men had, at that moment...

0:27:560:27:58

-..and it would be a long time

-before they recovered it again.

0:27:590:28:03

-Without a need

-to shoot skywards beforehand...

0:28:030:28:06

-..the German guns

-were all in place, fully loaded.

0:28:070:28:11

-They targeted the boats and soldiers

-as they reached the beach.

0:28:110:28:16

-1,179 soldiers were killed

-within a few hours...

0:28:180:28:21

-..an expensive price to pay

-for learning a few lessons.

0:28:210:28:25

-According to some historians,

-it did change the course of the war.

0:28:250:28:31

-It delayed the D-Day landings

-for another two years.

0:28:310:28:36

-By then, Goronwy Rees was in London

-working for the secret service.

0:28:360:28:41

-He enjoyed the company

-of old friends...

0:28:410:28:43

-..especially Guy Burgess

-who worked in the Foreign Office.

0:28:440:28:47

-He says that nights in Burgess' flat

-were like a French farce.

0:28:470:28:52

-A tide of men,

-from soldiers to civil servants...

0:28:520:28:55

-..going in and out of bedrooms

-before sharing political secrets.

0:28:560:29:00

-I felt like a tired businessman...

0:29:000:29:03

-..who had taken an evening off

-to visit a strip-tease club.

0:29:030:29:07

-He returned to Germany

-after the war...

0:29:070:29:10

-..to an area

-controlled by the British army.

0:29:110:29:14

-He was then a Lieutenant Colonel...

0:29:140:29:17

-..part of the team sharing political

-information with General Montgomery.

0:29:170:29:22

-It was a similar situation...

0:29:220:29:24

-..to the end of the recent

-Afghanistan or Iraq conflicts.

0:29:240:29:28

-A new order

-needed to be established.

0:29:280:29:31

-Goronwy's work was to understand

-the situation and offer ideas...

0:29:310:29:36

-..but he was granted complete peace

-for a week and a life of luxury.

0:29:360:29:40

-The British army had a base here...

0:29:410:29:43

-..the quiet spa town

-of Baden Oeynhausen.

0:29:440:29:47

-It hadn't been affected by the war.

0:29:470:29:50

-As Goronwy stated, it was like

-stationing an army in Llandrindod.

0:29:500:29:55

-At the end of World War I,

-Germany was split into four...

0:29:550:29:59

-..under the control

-of different countries.

0:29:590:30:02

-Britain was responsible

-for North-west Germany.

0:30:020:30:05

-Within two months

-of the end of the war...

0:30:050:30:08

-..Goronwy Rees

-was sent to gather information.

0:30:080:30:11

-I began to understand

-the man who said...

0:30:130:30:15

-..that war may be hell

-but defeat is worse.

0:30:160:30:18

-Goronwy Rees

-travelled from place to place...

0:30:200:30:23

-..talking to army officers

-to determine how the wind blew.

0:30:230:30:27

-In one place, he was given a list.

0:30:280:30:30

-Farmers' concerns about their crops

-and people's concerns about food.

0:30:300:30:35

-The biggest problem

-was the scattered population...

0:30:350:30:39

-..and the thousands of slaves the

-Nazis had forced to work for them.

0:30:390:30:44

-They were now

-wandering around the country...

0:30:440:30:47

-..without feeling

-a responsibility for anything.

0:30:470:30:51

-Germans also had their problems.

0:30:510:30:54

-Goronwy Rees saw British soldiers

-helping people...

0:30:550:30:59

-..they were trying to kill

-a few weeks earlier.

0:30:590:31:02

-The journey around Germany...

0:31:020:31:04

-..began to feel

-like an unpleasant fairy-tale.

0:31:050:31:08

-Goronwy turned to Welsh mythology

-to try and describe the experience.

0:31:080:31:13

-It was similar

-to one of the Mabinogi tales.

0:31:130:31:16

-Pryderi and Manawydan wandering

-around without seeing people...

0:31:170:31:21

-..animals or smoke rising from

-chimneys and every house empty.

0:31:210:31:26

-These buildings are rare.

0:31:340:31:36

-They are old buildings

-in the centre of Dortmund.

0:31:370:31:40

-If parts of rural Germany

-were quiet...

0:31:400:31:43

-..the situation in

-industrial areas was very different.

0:31:430:31:47

-Dortmund is in the middle of

-the Ruhr, the old coalmining area.

0:31:470:31:51

-It drove the German economy

-before World War II.

0:31:510:31:54

-When Goronwy Rees arrived here, 90%

-of the city centre was destroyed.

0:31:540:31:59

-It was a horrific example

-of what aerial bombing could do...

0:31:590:32:04

-..but he saw people returning to

-the ruins to search for their homes.

0:32:040:32:09

-Some opened shops

-in old stores and cellars.

0:32:100:32:13

-It was a small sign of how quickly

-Germany would return to its feet.

0:32:130:32:18

-One of the final stops

-on the journey was Hamburg.

0:32:200:32:23

-This is a huge military bunker,

-built by the Germans...

0:32:230:32:27

-..and captured by British soldiers.

0:32:270:32:29

-There were more. Radio Hamburg

-was located in one of them.

0:32:290:32:34

-The station broadcasted

-British propaganda across the area.

0:32:340:32:38

-When Goronwy arrived,

-that was the problem.

0:32:380:32:41

-There was only propaganda.

0:32:410:32:44

-He saw a need for music

-to entertain the people.

0:32:440:32:47

-He also wanted to see more

-newspapers and less censorship.

0:32:470:32:51

-He understood the need

-to satisfy German minds...

0:32:510:32:55

-..and let them know

-what was happening.

0:32:550:32:57

-The radio station Goronwy saw is

-now the area's broadcasting centre.

0:33:000:33:05

-One TV correspondent is grateful for

-the role of British broadcasters.

0:33:060:33:11

-They set up a new broadcasting

-system in Germany...

0:33:120:33:15

-..that exists still today.

0:33:150:33:17

-It's very, very good actually.

0:33:170:33:19

-We're grateful for that in Germany.

0:33:200:33:22

-ARD, the company I am working for,

-is completely federalistic.

0:33:220:33:26

-There is no main headquarter

-but every Bundesland...

0:33:260:33:30

-..every regional state, has its

-own branch of that kind of BBC.

0:33:300:33:34

-It was the model

-after which it was shaped.

0:33:340:33:37

-That means that politicians

-and political parties...

0:33:370:33:40

-..cannot easily influence us.

0:33:410:33:42

-Goronwy Rees had seen

-Hitler's control of the media.

0:33:430:33:47

-Today, no leader of a party can

-control them to spread propaganda.

0:33:470:33:51

-Memories of Nazism influence

-many facets of German life.

0:33:520:33:56

-The whole attitude towards Europe

-has been mainly influenced...

0:33:560:34:01

-..by the German experience of what

-we did, or they did, or we did...

0:34:010:34:05

-..in the Second World War.

0:34:060:34:07

-I mean, the way people,

-especially in West Germany...

0:34:080:34:11

-..were taught at school, like me,

-about rise of the Fascism...

0:34:110:34:15

-..and how it could happen and why

-it should never happen again...

0:34:160:34:20

-..has influenced the attitude

-of German politicians since '45.

0:34:200:34:25

-In terms of the people,

-the part of the population...

0:34:260:34:29

-..that believed in Hitler

-realised what war was.

0:34:290:34:35

-Groessenwahn is the German

-word we use.

0:34:350:34:39

-The desire to control the world -

-what had it done to their country?

0:34:400:34:44

-If the 1930s remain a shadow

-over Germany...

0:34:470:34:50

-..they would also return

-to haunt Goronwy Rees.

0:34:500:34:54

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-Straight after World War II...

0:35:100:35:12

-..Goronwy travelled

-across one part of Germany...

0:35:130:35:16

-..recounting the destruction

-and new life.

0:35:160:35:19

-He was part of the army's

-information service.

0:35:200:35:23

-At the age of 36,

-married with two daughters...

0:35:230:35:26

-..his time as a soldier

-came to an end.

0:35:270:35:29

-Soon, he was back in England...

0:35:320:35:34

-..starting a new life.

0:35:350:35:37

-Some writing and then two jobs.

0:35:370:35:40

-One helping a friend run a company

-called Pontifex...

0:35:400:35:43

-..and another

-working for the secret service...

0:35:430:35:46

-..keeping an eye

-on Germany and Russia.

0:35:470:35:49

-Pontifex in the morning,

-MI6 in the afternoon.

0:35:490:35:52

-Goronwy's manager in Pontifex

-was once asked...

0:35:540:35:58

-..why he'd been given the work.

0:35:580:36:00

-The answer - he had a bigger brain

-than anyone else...

0:36:000:36:04

-..and to hide his real job,

-working for MI6.

0:36:040:36:07

-He spoke German fluently and

-collected information about Germany.

0:36:070:36:12

-He assessed reports from spies

-and collected information on Russia.

0:36:120:36:17

-In 1951, that role came to an end.

0:36:180:36:20

-He took up a post at his

-old college, All Souls, Oxford.

0:36:200:36:23

-Bursar was the title,

-responsible for the upkeep...

0:36:240:36:27

-..of the land and farms

-of the establishment...

0:36:270:36:30

-..but there was no escaping

-Russia and Guy Burgess.

0:36:310:36:35

-In 1951, Burgess disappeared.

0:36:360:36:38

-The friend who admitted

-he was spying for Russia...

0:36:390:36:42

-..and had asked Goronwy to join him.

0:36:420:36:45

-Burgess was godfather

-to one of Goronwy's children.

0:36:450:36:48

-They also named the cat Burgess.

0:36:480:36:51

-Burgess' final phone call before

-disappearing was to his old friend.

0:36:510:36:56

-Much of Rees' story revolves around

-his relationship with Burgess.

0:36:560:37:01

-They enjoyed each other's company.

0:37:010:37:04

-They drank together

-and shared secrets.

0:37:040:37:07

-In the '30s, Goronwy Rees

-knew that Guy Burgess...

0:37:070:37:11

-..and a far more respectable man

-named Anthony Blunt...

0:37:110:37:16

-..were spies working for Russia.

0:37:160:37:19

-However, he told no-one.

0:37:190:37:21

-Later,

-he tried to explain his actions.

0:37:210:37:24

-Unless one was absolutely sure,

-friendship counted for more.

0:37:240:37:30

-You couldn't betray a friend except

-on the ground of absolute certainty.

0:37:300:37:35

-If I had been absolutely certain,

-I think I would have had no doubt.

0:37:350:37:40

-Since I was not certain, I didn't.

0:37:400:37:42

-Then again,

-according to Goronwy Rees...

0:37:450:37:49

-..when Burgess disappeared

-in 1951...

0:37:490:37:52

-..he told MI5 that Burgess and Blunt

-were both Russian spies.

0:37:520:37:56

-He was interviewed by MI5

-but nothing came of it.

0:37:560:38:01

-The shadow remained.

0:38:010:38:03

-He was successful

-back at work in Oxford.

0:38:080:38:10

-As a result, he came to the

-attention of Aberystwyth University.

0:38:100:38:15

-They were searching

-for a new principal.

0:38:150:38:17

-He received a letter inviting him

-to apply for the role...

0:38:180:38:21

-..an opportunity to return to

-the lost paradise of his childhood.

0:38:220:38:26

-Of all the mistakes he made,

-the greatest was returning here.

0:38:260:38:30

-This is Penglais mansion,

-home of the university's principal.

0:38:300:38:35

-He took up the role in 1953,

-but why?

0:38:350:38:39

-He says he wanted to give

-something back to Wales.

0:38:390:38:42

-Did he feel a sense of guilt?

0:38:430:38:44

-Was he trying to reconnect

-with that lost paradise?

0:38:450:38:48

-It would turn into a disappointment.

0:38:480:38:50

-Even though he returned home, in

-many ways, he felt like a stranger.

0:38:510:38:55

-If I had had any sense, I would

-have realised that such letters...

0:38:550:39:00

-..particularly

-if they come from Wales...

0:39:000:39:03

-..are never quite what they seem.

0:39:030:39:06

-He was different

-to the established model...

0:39:060:39:09

-..of what you'd expect

-the Aberystwyth principal to be.

0:39:090:39:13

-He was popular with students.

0:39:130:39:15

-There was a lot

-of deadwood in Aberystwyth...

0:39:150:39:19

-..and he felt it was time

-to move them on.

0:39:190:39:22

-There was disagreement

-about the college's purpose.

0:39:290:39:32

-Rees wanted a place

-where students...

0:39:330:39:35

-..could discuss ideas

-and understand the world.

0:39:350:39:38

-For others, the college's role was

-to safeguard the Welsh language...

0:39:390:39:44

-..and the moral standards

-of students.

0:39:450:39:48

-Soon, Goronwy Rees felt stifled, by

-the town and the old establishment.

0:39:480:39:54

-His wife was even less happy.

0:39:540:39:57

-She felt isolated,

-she couldn't understand Welsh...

0:39:570:40:00

-..she couldn't understand the people

-and many didn't like her.

0:40:010:40:04

-Now a mother to five children,

-Margie detested their home.

0:40:070:40:11

-At the time, it was covered in grey

-cement, the interior was lifeless.

0:40:120:40:17

-For Goronwy Rees,

-his enemies in Aberystwyth...

0:40:230:40:27

-..were Welsh nationalists

-and chapelgoers.

0:40:270:40:30

-They were too narrow-minded for him

-and they were critical of him.

0:40:310:40:35

-He'd promised to start

-speaking Welsh again but didn't.

0:40:360:40:40

-He became friends with students

-while still acting as the principal.

0:40:400:40:44

-He drank

-in the Belle Vue Royal Hotel.

0:40:450:40:47

-He wrote about homosexuality.

0:40:470:40:49

-On top of everything,

-he wore white socks!

0:40:500:40:52

-I remember more than once...

0:40:560:40:59

-..he would chair public lectures.

0:40:590:41:02

-He did so with such brilliance.

0:41:030:41:05

-I remember when Douglas Jay,

-his old friend, visited him.

0:41:050:41:10

-A grand dinner was arranged

-at the mansion.

0:41:100:41:13

-I was a student at the time.

0:41:130:41:15

-As a distant cousin,

-he invited me to join them.

0:41:150:41:19

-It was a wonderful evening.

0:41:190:41:23

-I walked down and heard his voice

-thundering all around.

0:41:230:41:28

-"I've got 32 professors

-in this place.

0:41:280:41:30

-"Do you know, half the buggers

-dead from the neck up."

0:41:310:41:34

-I told myself, "Dear me,

-I know what I'll be discussing...

0:41:340:41:38

-.."tomorrow morning

-in the senior common room."

0:41:380:41:41

-He could be impudent at times.

0:41:410:41:43

-Then the dramatic event.

0:41:450:41:47

-The spark was Guy Burgess once more.

0:41:470:41:50

-In 1956, five years

-after his disappearance...

0:41:500:41:53

-..he reappeared in Moscow.

0:41:540:41:56

-Everyone now knew that he was a spy.

0:41:560:41:58

-How many more were there?

0:41:590:42:00

-How many would be in danger

-if Guy Burgess spoke out?

0:42:010:42:05

-Anthony Blunt, certainly,

-and maybe Goronwy Rees.

0:42:050:42:09

-The principal of Aberystwyth

-University struck first...

0:42:090:42:13

-..to undermine his old friend.

0:42:130:42:15

-What put the kybosh on things

-were anonymous letters...

0:42:150:42:19

-..that appeared

-in The People Sunday newspaper.

0:42:200:42:23

-Everyone knew

-that Goronwy Rees was the author.

0:42:260:42:29

-He'd been writing memoirs

-about Guy Burgess...

0:42:290:42:32

-..showing how close they were

-and how much he knew.

0:42:330:42:36

-Rees wanted to expose Burgess

-as an unscrupulous liar.

0:42:380:42:41

-Was money the motivation

-for publishing the articles?

0:42:410:42:44

-He was paid 2,700 for the stories.

0:42:440:42:47

-Or was he trying to protect himself?

0:42:470:42:49

-Attacking Burgess in case he exposed

-Goronwy Rees' role in the 1930s.

0:42:500:42:54

-His biggest mistake was giving the

-information to a tabloid newspaper.

0:42:550:43:00

-He angered his Oxford friends for

-betraying one of the selected few.

0:43:000:43:04

-He also gave his enemies

-in Aberystwyth a target.

0:43:040:43:08

-Goronwy's explanation

-was that he wanted to defend...

0:43:100:43:13

-..the safety of the British Isles.

0:43:130:43:16

-Because I felt I knew

-a great deal about this case...

0:43:160:43:19

-..and I thought the security

-services themselves...

0:43:190:43:23

-..had handled the case

-extremely incompetently...

0:43:230:43:27

-..that had not pursued

-their inquiries far enough...

0:43:270:43:30

-..and I was determined that

-I should put it down on paper...

0:43:300:43:34

-..so that everybody could read.

0:43:350:43:37

-The 'everybody' included

-the university's authorities.

0:43:370:43:40

-University President

-Sir David Hughes Parry claimed....

0:43:410:43:44

-..that Rees offered his resignation

-but Rees denied this.

0:43:450:43:49

-After some debate on whether Rees

-had offered to resign...

0:43:490:43:52

-..there was an inquiry

-at the request of 12 professors.

0:43:530:43:56

-Years later, Rees felt the inquiry

-was a way to get rid of him...

0:43:560:44:02

-..not for the Burgess affair

-but for three other sins.

0:44:020:44:06

-One that you are a Communist,

-two that you are homosexual...

0:44:060:44:10

-..and three that you gave the

-undergraduates a glass of sherry.

0:44:100:44:15

-I never knew

-which was the worst crime.

0:44:150:44:17

-But you only plead

-guilty to the third?

0:44:180:44:20

-Within eight months, the report.

0:44:210:44:23

-There was nothing untoward

-about Goronwy Rees' work...

0:44:230:44:27

-..but the articles in The People

-were lewd and scandalous.

0:44:270:44:31

-He'd put his interests

-before those of the university.

0:44:310:44:35

-Many students supported him

-but he had no option but to resign.

0:44:350:44:39

-At the age of 45, he had

-five children but no job or home.

0:44:390:44:45

-He left Aberystwyth

-under that cloud.

0:44:510:44:54

-It's such a pity

-in so many respects.

0:44:540:44:57

-He was so different,

-so lively, so impudent.

0:44:570:45:01

-He was a man ahead of his time.

0:45:020:45:04

-The Welsh establishment

-wasn't ready for Goronwy Rees.

0:45:040:45:08

-Whether he was the third, fourth,

-fifth or sixth spy, I don't know.

0:45:080:45:13

-A magazine called Encounter

-was his salvation.

0:45:140:45:18

-It supported America

-and was highly critical of Russia.

0:45:180:45:23

-He wrote columns

-on international political subjects.

0:45:230:45:27

-It was an opportunity

-to show his writing talent.

0:45:270:45:31

-I must say,

-he wrote the most brilliant prose.

0:45:310:45:35

-..that I ever read.

0:45:350:45:38

-It appealed to me

-because he wrote about my nation...

0:45:390:45:43

-..in the most brilliant

-and attractive way.

0:45:430:45:46

-The way he wrote

-about wheat in the sunshine.

0:45:470:45:50

-Or the way he wrote

-about the excitement of Berlin.

0:45:510:45:54

-He wrote about things I understood

-in a new, brilliant way.

0:45:550:45:59

-In a room filled with portraits of

-Aberystwyth University's greatest...

0:46:030:46:08

-..there is no portrait

-of Goronwy Rees.

0:46:080:46:11

-Every former principal is there.

0:46:110:46:13

-This plaque was included

-after pressure from his family.

0:46:140:46:18

-Aberystwyth hasn't forgiven him.

0:46:180:46:20

-Goronwy Rees did get some revenge.

0:46:210:46:24

-On his deathbed, at the age of 70,

-he watched a TV news item.

0:46:240:46:28

-Margaret Thatcher was announcing

-to the House of Commons...

0:46:280:46:33

-..that Anthony Blunt, Guy Burgess'

-friend, was a Russian spy.

0:46:330:46:37

-The government had known since 1964.

0:46:380:46:40

-Goronwy Rees celebrated

-with a bottle of champagne...

0:46:400:46:44

-..and the words,

-"Got you, you swine."

0:46:440:46:47

-It's got you, Goronwy, now.

0:46:490:46:52

-In 1999, it became clear that

-Russia had a file on Goronwy Rees...

0:46:520:46:56

-..and that he had two codenames,

-Gross and Fleet.

0:46:570:47:00

-Many had their suspicions,

-now they knew.

0:47:000:47:03

-For a short period of time, Rees

-had shared information with Russia.

0:47:030:47:08

-They weren't major secrets,

-just information...

0:47:080:47:11

-..about the views of the British

-cognoscenti at All Souls, Oxford.

0:47:120:47:16

-Goronwy Rees' life raises

-many interesting questions.

0:47:170:47:21

-I want to know

-how much spying did he do and why?

0:47:210:47:24

-And what was his relationship

-with the Welsh language and culture?

0:47:250:47:29

-He travelled extensively.

0:47:300:47:32

-He left Aberystwyth

-halfway through his childhood.

0:47:320:47:36

-Later, he turned his back on

-everything Aberystwyth represented.

0:47:360:47:41

-I'd like to think that maybe,

-just maybe...

0:47:410:47:45

-..he was playing a kind

-of double agent with his own soul.

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