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-Welcome to Ffermio

-and a warm welcome to Llandudno...

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-..the queen of Welsh resorts.

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-I'm not here for a paddle.

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-I've come to meet the farmer...

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-..who has been chosen to manage

-this land for a rent of 1...

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-..that's right, 1 per year.

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-Alun also meets Sarah Vaughan

-Williams from Brithdir...

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-..who is about to start work

-as a land agent...

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-..and Meinir

-meets a family that has ventured...

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-..into the organic dairy industry.

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-After an international campaign

-by the National Trust...

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-..to find tenants for Parc Farm

-on the Great Orme at Llandudno...

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-..the successful farmer

-and his family have just moved in.

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-From where do they hail?

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-They've travelled

-all the way from Anglesey.

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-2,500 people

-from all over of the world...

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-..expressed an interest

-in this farm.

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-Dan and Ceri Jones and their son

-Efan were the successful family.

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-They've given up farming

-in Llangristiolus...

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-..to come to this

-150-acre farm in Llandudno.

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-Their rent is just 1 per year.

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-My phone rang non-stop

-early one morning.

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-People were tagging me

-on social media.

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-They wanted to tell me

-that a farm was coming up...

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-..that would be perfect for me.

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-I looked into it

-and I showed it to Ceri.

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-We came over to see the place

-and put in an application.

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-Finally, we've ended up here.

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-You've left Anglesey

-to come and live in Llandudno.

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-It wasn't easy to leave Anglesey.

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-We believe we've done

-the right thing for ourselves.

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-For me, it means a greater chance...

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-..to work with sheep

-and sheepdogs every day.

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-I'll still be running my own farm.

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-There are also more opportunities

-for Ceri and Efan, our son...

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-..growing up in Llandudno.

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-And the rent is different.

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-It's a bit less

-than what we were paying before.

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-The rent is 1 per year,

-but alongside that...

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-..there are many things

-the National Trust expects me to do.

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-I have to farm

-the way they want me to farm.

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-I can't farm

-the same way I did on Anglesey.

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-I have to manage the flock

-in a different way.

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-A lot of work

-comes with the low rent.

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-It's wonderful, living on the

-mountain and looking at the sea.

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-It's so peaceful.

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-It's fantastic.

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-Once everything has settled...

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-..I can work with the dogs

-and sheep every day...

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-..and start looking forward

-to living here.

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-For decades, the number of sheep

-grazing on the Great Orme...

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-..has been falling sharply...

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-..but Dan will change things

-to benefit the land.

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-We'll have two flocks here.

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-One will be on the farm.

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-The other flock will be

-outside the farm walls.

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-They'll be native sheep.

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-Within the farm walls,

-you have almost 150 acres...

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-..with just one flock there.

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-They'll be commercial sheep,

-producing fattened lambs.

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-Is the rest common land?

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-I believe it's common land.

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-That's where much of the grazing

-and shepherding will happen.

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-These are the sheep

-that will live there.

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-You've chosen Lleyn sheep.

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-It's a local Welsh breed, of course.

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-These sheep have been bred

-on the Lleyn Peninsula.

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-They're at home in this terrain.

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-They're at home in this terrain.

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-They're used to the wind.

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-That's why they've been chosen.

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-How much grazing land is there

-outside the farm?

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-Over 700 acres,

-so there's plenty of room to graze.

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-All on the Great Orme?

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-Yes, from Llandudno all the way up.

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-How are you going to manage them?

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-Hopefully,

-we will tend them every day...

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-..and target various areas...

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-..to put them to graze where the

-grass is growing out of control.

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-Who has bought the 400 sheep?

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-They've been bought

-by the charity Plantlife.

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-They wanted to help in some way,

-so they bought the sheep.

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-They had an input

-into where the sheep will graze...

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-..in order to protect rare plants.

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-At the moment,

-the grass is out of control...

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-..and it's smothering them.

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-We'll manage the flock and see how

-much they graze in different spots.

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-Will you keep the profit

-from the lambs?

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-That's the idea.

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-We farm the sheep,

-Plantlife owns them...

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-..and they lease them to me.

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-In a way, everybody profits.

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-You manage the land

-but also get an income.

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-That's the aim.

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-The National Trust owns this farm.

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-Along with Plantlife...

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-..an organization that helps

-safeguard and sustain rare plants...

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-..they are keen for Parc Farm

-to develop into a working farm...

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-..and a haven for wildlife.

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-The reason we've let the land

-to Dan and his wife...

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-..is that this farm is unique.

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-There is wildlife here that doesn't

-exist anywhere else in the world.

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-We needed people

-with the skills to look after it.

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-Dan and Ceri are ideal.

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-Dan has experience

-of working on Snowdon.

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-He'll know what to do.

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-What is the biggest challenge

-of farming here?

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-The grazing rights

-cover 700 acres of the Great Orme.

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-There are no fences, and many people

-come here for a walk.

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-600,000 people

-come up the Great Orme every year.

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-The challenge is managing a flock

-among those people on open terrain.

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-How do you hope to develop the farm

-and the surrounding land?

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-Do you hope they will develop

-not only farming but also tourism?

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-That's part of the job...

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-..but our primary objective

-is to look after the wildlife here.

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-Offering the tenancy for 1

-gives Dan scope to work...

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-..and find alternative ways

-to make it a success.

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-We'd like to make the best

-of the visitors...

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-..and teach them about farming

-and where food comes from.

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-There is obviously plenty

-of important work to be done here.

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-Bearing in mind

-that the Great Orme...

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-..attracts 600,000 visitors

-every year...

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-..what are the hopes

-for the next decade?

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-We all know

-where we want to go...

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-..but we'll have to see

-how far we get.

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-We want to show visitors,

-especially those from urban areas...

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-..where lamb comes from.

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-Hopefully, in the future,

-we can sell our produce to them.

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-We want to develop shepherd's huts

-where people can stay.

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-We have lots of ideas.

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-Are you looking forward to it?

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-I've been looking forward to it.

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-Now, I just want to get the sheep

-on the Great Orme...

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-..and try to make a difference.

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-I want to meet as many people

-as I can and enjoy being here.

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-For many graduates...

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-..finding the perfect job

-can be a bit of a challenge.

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-Alun has been to meet someone

-who has been very lucky.

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-Sarah Vaughan Williams...

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-..is a 23-year-old farmer's daughter

-from Brithdir near Dolgellau.

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-After spending four years

-at Harper Adams University...

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-..studying land management

-and rural enterprise...

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-..she's now a trainee land agent

-for Jones Peckover.

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-I wanted a job

-connected with agriculture.

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-I looked through

-the Harper Adams prospectus.

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-I saw the course

-and decided to apply for it.

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-How long is the course at Harpers?

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-How long is the course at Harpers?

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-Four years.

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-You also do

-a year's work experience.

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-What happened there?

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-I was lucky enough

-to get a job with Jones Peckover.

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-I worked with them for a year

-across North Wales.

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-What was the year like?

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-What was the year like?

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-It was hectic.

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-They put me to work straight away.

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-It was interesting work.

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-I wanted to work for them

-because they cover a wide area.

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-They have four offices...

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-..and operate

-from the Lleyn Peninsula...

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-..right up to the border

-with Cheshire and Shropshire.

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-Sarah's work includes valuing,

-selling and letting land...

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-..dealing with tenants

-and landowners...

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-..and dealing

-with the Basic Payment Scheme.

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-Today, we're on land

-in Llanfaethlu on Anglesey.

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-What are you working on here?

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-The road to Wylfa

-will be crossing this farmland.

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-After an archaeological survey

-has been completed...

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-..I'm here to collect information

-for a claim against Horizon...

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-..in respect of damage

-done to the land.

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-We'll do the heads of claim

-within the claim...

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-..for loss of grazing and loss

-of future yields and profits...

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-..and also disturbance -

-how it has affected our clients.

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-How does someone get compensation,

-and how much should they get?

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-They say they should be

-no better and no worse off...

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-..than in a no-scheme world.

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-They try to mitigate the effect

-it has on the landowner.

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-In some places,

-they will build tunnels or bridges.

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-If that isn't possible,

-they have to meet a monetary value.

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-Looking at the wider situation

-regarding land values...

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-..there's a lot of uncertainty

-in the agricultural sector...

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-..following the vote

-to leave Europe.

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-Is that having an effect

-on land values?

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-It hasn't so far, to be honest.

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-Perhaps it's too early to tell.

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-Perhaps it's too early to tell.

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-Fair enough.

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-Another factor is the change

-from the Single Payment Scheme...

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-..to the Basic Payment Scheme.

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-We'll have to wait and see

-with that.

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-Some farmers

-will be better off by 2019...

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-..so many people remain confident.

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-Also, people outside agriculture

-buy land for its investment value.

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-Recently, I was at an auction

-selling land in Denbigh.

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-The land made up to 11,000 an acre.

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-The land made up to 11,000 an acre.

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-Wow.

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-Sarah's home is Caerynwch Farm.

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-She lives here with parents Richard

-and Gwenan and brother Evan.

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-They keep over 800 sheep

-and 50 cattle.

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-Whenever she gets the chance,

-she's at home helping out.

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-It must be great to be home

-after a hard day's work.

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-Tell us a bit about Caerynwch.

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-It's a famous name.

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-For those who aren't familiar

-with it, what makes it special?

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-We keep Welsh Mountain sheep

-and pedigree Welsh Black cattle.

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-We think it's important

-to keep these native breeds.

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-They suit the farm and the land.

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-I mainly link

-the name Caerynwch with cattle.

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-Welsh Blacks, as you said.

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-Which do you prefer,

-cattle or sheep?

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-It's hard to say.

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-I have a lot of interest

-in the sheep...

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-..and it's more exciting

-at the sales...

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-..but nothing beats

-a Welsh Black cow.

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-I must admit

-I love Welsh Black cattle.

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-How long will you keep these calves

-before selling them?

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-We'll sell them at the pedigree sale

-in Dolgellau in January.

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-It's unusual to sell them so young.

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-It's unusual to sell them so young.

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-We sell them at 6-7 months old.

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-That way, they don't cost much.

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-We sell them

-straight off the mother.

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-There are no feed costs, just hay.

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-That's hassle-free.

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-It's living off

-what the farm provides.

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-Well, well, well.

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-It's been a very entertaining tour.

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-I've got a very clear picture

-of your life.

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-You get up in this little heaven.

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-Then you go off

-to a job that you enjoy...

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-..where you try your best

-to solve other people's problems...

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-..and come back here

-when you're done.

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-It's a great life

-for a 23-year-old.

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-And now the biggest question of all.

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-If a perfect little farm

-became available somewhere...

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-..would you buy it?

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-That's what I'd like.

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-That's all for this part.

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-After the break...

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-..Meinir visits a farm

-that's moved into dairy farming...

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-..and there's one last chance

-to hear the competition questions.

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-See you in a minute.

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-Welcome back.

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-Six years ago, Ffermio visited

-the Downes family in Ceredigion.

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-They were beef and sheep farmers.

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-But they'd also opened a restaurant

-on the land called Sgubor Teile.

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-They are now diversifying again.

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-Meinir has the story.

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-Over the last few months

-on Cilcert Uchaf Farm, Llangeitho...

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-..there have been big changes.

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-Sheep, beef and the restaurant

-remain vital parts of the business.

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-But Richard, the youngest son,

-has emulated his ancestors...

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-..by taking up dairy farming.

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-I was dragged into it.

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-I had no choice!

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-I spent a month at Harper Adams...

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-..but I wasn't enjoying it there.

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-I came home and we decided more

-diversification was called for...

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-..to generate a wage for me at home.

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-Is it a good time to be buying

-equipment for dairy farming?

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-Yes, it is.

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-We were lucky enough to pick up

-a milking parlour locally.

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-We had to do some work on it.

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-It's much improved

-on what it was when it arrived.

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-We've changed

-a lot of things on it.

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-But we've been fairly lucky

-as regards our investment.

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-We could have been forced

-to spend a lot more.

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-You were lucky enough

-to have the pick of contracts too.

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-Yes, we've got three contracts.

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-People really want organic milk

-right now.

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-How do you get on

-with Rachel's Organic?

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-Very well.

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-It's a very simple contract.

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-I think they have

-twelve direct producers like us...

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-..from St David's up to here.

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-That works really well.

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-Producing organic milk

-gets you a bonus.

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-Yes, we get a bonus.

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-Organic milk is currently

-at 39 pence a litre...

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-..whereas conventional milk

-is at 25 pence a litre.

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-Even that

-seems to be going up slowly.

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-What is your system?

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-We try to get the cows

-to calve in the autumn.

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-They'll be turned to the bull

-within the next two weeks.

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-It's an easier system

-because it all comes together.

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-They go to the bull

-at the same time...

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-..they calve at the same time...

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-..and we wean the calves

-before lambing time.

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-It'll be a challenge this year,

-milking and lambing as well.

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-It'll be a lot of work

-for my parents!

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-I'm just the milking boy.

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-The family has only been milking

-since October.

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-After an initial period, they have

-readjusted to the new pattern.

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-How hard was adapting the farm

-to dairy from beef rearing?

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-It took a period

-of around five months of adjusting.

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-It was a lot of work every day.

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-We added this part of the shed

-during the summer.

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-We installed a slurry channel

-direct to the slurry pit.

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-We then had to install

-the feed passage and the cubicles.

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-All the cubicles are second-hand

-but they took an age to install...

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-..and, finally, the parlour up top.

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-Was already being an organic farm

-an important consideration?

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-Yes. If we weren't already organic,

-we'd never have considered it.

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-We looked at a couple

-of other diversification options.

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-Because we were organic,

-this was the best option for us.

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-Have you had any regrets?

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-Not yet!

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-We all enjoy our own roles here.

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-We all enjoy our own roles here.

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-Who does what?

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-Mam deals with the calves

-morning and night while I milk.

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-Dad does the feeding

-and the scraping of the cubicles.

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-There's enough time to go at it.

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-We all take the same amount of time

-to do our own jobs.

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-We're quite lucky

-to have Daniel, Sara and Sian.

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-If one of us wants to go somewhere,

-there's someone here to help.

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-It's clear this family

-aren't afraid to try things.

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-Their hard work down the years...

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-..has allowed them to move

-in a new direction as required.

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-Is now the time to go into milking?

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-Is now the time to go into milking?

-

-Yes, I think so.

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-When we looked into it

-a year ago...

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-..there was no mention

-of Brexit or Trump.

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-It's totally different now.

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-But beef and lamb

-weren't looking special last year.

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-There isn't much security there.

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-Of course, there's no quota now.

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-You don't have to buy a quota.

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-You can go straight into dairy

-at a lower cost.

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-Cattle prices have fallen too...

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-..because they've been so hard

-on the conventionals.

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-There are a lot of cattle around.

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-It's getting better day by day.

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-We've got 70 cattle now.

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-We can see the cattle

-are producing more milk every day.

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-That's very good.

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-Do you enjoy it?

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-Yes, when the cattle behave.

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-You've only just started.

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-You've only just started.

-

-Yes.

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-No, I really enjoy it.

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-Now, a chance to win

-an early Christmas present.

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-It's competition time.

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-First prize is the HB506 Horsebox.

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-Second prize is the P8G trailer.

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-Third prize is the P7E trailer.

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-Worth over 7,000 in all...

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-..and are kindly donated

-by Ifor Williams Trailers.

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-For a chance to win, you need

-to answer five simple questions.

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-When rearranged...

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-..the first letter of each answer

-spell out a five letter word.

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-You need to send us that word

-by 23 November.

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-If you missed a few questions,

-here they all are for you.

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-Heart, lungs and kidneys

-are examples of what?

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-A mechanical farmhand

-in the milking parlour.

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-A Welsh wizard

-connected with Carmarthen.

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-Where horses live

-and Jesus was born.

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-The surname of the

-president-elect of the USA.

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-If you think you know

-what this five letter word is...

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-..send the answer plus your name,

-full address and phone number to...

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-..Ffermio Competition, Telesgop...

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-..Bay Studio, Fabian Way,

-Swansea, SA1 8QB.

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-You can also compete

-by filling in a form online.

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-You must be over 18 to compete.

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-We'll have to receive your entries

-by 23 October.

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-If you're lucky enough

-to win one of the prizes...

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-..you'll need to collect the trailer

-on Tuesday at the Winter Fair.

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-Good luck to you all.

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-That's it for this programme.

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-Good luck to Dan and his family

-here on the Great Orme.

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-I get the feeling

-that this land is in good hands.

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-There's no Ffermio next week

-due to the Winter Fair.

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-Alun, Meinir and myself

-will return the following week.

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-Thanks very much for your company.

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-Until next time, goodbye.

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