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Mon, 29 Feb 2016

Y tro hwn, bydd Daloni ynghanol dofednod cynhenid Cymreig yn Rhoshirwaun. Daloni learns more about Welsh poultry breeds in Rhoshirwaun and Alun meets a farmer who breeds quality...


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-Hello and a warm welcome to Ffermio.

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-A milkman used to be

-a familiar sight in our villages.

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-Over the years,

-they've all but disappeared...

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-..but this week I'm visiting

-a family that is...

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-..determined to carry on the

-tradition in the Carmarthen area.

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-Daloni will be surrounded by poultry

-of all shapes and sizes...

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-..native Welsh breeds

-of ducks, hens and geese.

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-Alun visits Alan Jones,

-an expert in training sheepdogs...

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-..who sells his dogs

-for good prices.

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-We also hear farmers' responses

-to the European referendum.

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-This pint of milk was still in the

-cow's udders at 4.00am yesterday.

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-Since then,

-the cow has been milked...

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-..and the milk processed

-and delivered to the customers.

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-There are only a small number

-of farms providing this service.

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-One of them is Cwm Farm,

-Cwmffrwd, Carmarthenshire.

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-John Phillips founded the company

-almost fifty years ago.

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-His sons Dorian and Michael

-also now work for the business.

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-I bought a small round

-in the Llancwm area...

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-..from a local man selling

-about seventeen gallons per day.

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-That was 45 years ago.

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-The clock keeps turning.

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-How difficult was it back then

-to sell milk?

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-Everyone was fighting over business

-well not fighting...

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-..but the competition was keen.

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-Doorstep delivery was strong

-back then but things have changed.

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-You've done this for almost 50

-years. Do you feel tied to the job?

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-You are tied...

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-..but if you left tomorrow's

-delivery until the next day...

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-..you'd lose your customers.

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-Hard work never killed anyone.

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-Hard work never killed anyone.

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-I'm still here!

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-The family milk 90 Holstein cows

-twice per day.

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-The milk is processed in the

-dairy facing the milking parlour.

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-It was refurbished in 2008.

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-How have you profited from selling

-directly to your customers?

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-It has helped to a certain extent...

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-..with the industry being

-in its current situation...

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-..but there are additional costs

-which we are having to bear.

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-How does the current situation

-in the milk industry affect you?

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-We're competing with Wisemans

-and the other big boys...

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-..the processors.

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-The more milk there is on the

-market, the lower the price will be.

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-Because we haven't gone down that

-route, we won't lose our customers.

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-Money talks.

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-The service you provide

-is unique these days.

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-That's right.

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-I understand there are only

-two businesses like this in Wales.

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-Sadly this service had died out.

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-I read an article in one of

-the papers a little while ago...

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-..that said there were only 900

-milkmen in the whole of Britain.

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-It's dying out.

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-This is a real family business.

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-That's right. Some days I'll only

-see my father for 30 minutes.

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-Some days

-I might not see Michael at all...

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-..but we all know the score.

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-We all understand our role.

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-Everyone knuckles down and gets on

-with the jobs that need to be done.

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-Most milk crosses

-the border to be processed...

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-..before returning to be sold

-in our local supermarkets.

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-Here on Cwm Farm,

-once the milk has been bottled...

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-..it goes straight

-to the customer.

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-When we started

-we only sold bottles...

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-..but with supermarkets

-selling four pints for 1.00...

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-..we had to change and bring in

-cartons to compete with them.

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-It's lucky that we did that.

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-We lost a lot of customers at the

-beginning but some have come back...

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-..because our milk is totally

-different to supermarket milk.

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-Our milk reaches the customers'

-doorstep within 24-36 hours.

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-It's fresh.

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-That's the difference between

-our milk and supermarket milk.

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-It has a better taste

-and hasn't travelled far.

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-There has been a huge drop...

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-..in the number of farmers that

-provide this service - why is that?

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-Big companies have taken over.

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-They squeeze the farmers

-whenever they can.

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-Farmers can't compete any more.

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-Our business has been going

-for 46 years..

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-..but the last year has been hard.

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-Do you have fun on your round?

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-We have fun.

-We make a lot of friends.

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-Our round covers a big area.

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-I keep an eye on things

-if people are away on holiday.

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-I help them if they want to move

-furniture or put the rubbish out.

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-If they support me,

-I'll support them.

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-You have good cream. It's special.

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-It's not too bad, it'll fill a coat!

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-I couldn't ask for more. Everything

-I need is brought to my door.

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-He brings my newspaper every day.

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-He spoils you.

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-That's right. He gets cake from me.

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-Perks of the job.

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-Oh, I see.

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-This is the best milk

-in the world...

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-..from his very own cows.

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-This milk is better than beer.

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-The family have worked hard

-over the years...

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-..to earn the respect

-and loyalty of their customers.

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-This fresh, local milk

-certainly hits the spot.

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-Over the years we've expanded.

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-We started with 40 cows.

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-Now we milk 90 cows

-and we have over 500 customers.

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-What has been

-your biggest challenge?

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-Supermarkets really hit us.

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-They started selling four pints of

-milk for 1.00. We had to change.

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-We moved into cartons.

-That's what most people buy.

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-Some prefer the taste of bottled

-milk but it's more expensive.

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-Is there a future

-for the small family farm?

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-We hope so.

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-The farm is here,

-the herd is over there...

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-..we don't take milk

-from anywhere else...

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-..so Cwm Farm milk

-comes from here.

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-It's from the cattle in there

-and nowhere else.

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-We could expand and buy in milk

-but it wouldn't taste the same.

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-We want to keep it fresh

-with milk from this valley.

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-Last week the NFU held their

-annual conference in Birmingham.

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-Topics discussed included

-TB and the Basic Payments Scheme.

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-Another obvious talking point

-was the European referendum.

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-1,400 farmers gathered together

-in Birmingham's ICC.

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-Some 100 of those

-were Welsh farmers.

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-A question and answer session

-had been arranged by NFU Cymru.

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-Three senior Welsh Government

-civil servants were on the panel.

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-The referendum date

-had just been announced...

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-..and a full hall listened

-to arguments between...

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-..Conservative MEP Daniel Hannan

-who supports leaving the EU...

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-..and George Lyons, a member of the

-Britain Stronger in Europe group.

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-What did Welsh farmers think

-after listening to both sides?

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-I enjoyed listening to

-the arguments.

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-They were quite skilful in the way

-they put their views across.

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-I'm not going to make

-a decision yet.

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-I want to see the arguments

-developing and hear the true facts.

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-I'm still sitting on the fence

-at the moment.

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-I'm not sure how we would profit

-by leaving.

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-Would more of us benefit

-by staying in?

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-The YFC is going to present the

-facts to young people to consider.

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-Hopefully this will make them aware

-of both sides of the issue...

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-..and then they can make

-their own decision.

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-I thought both sides

-presented their argument well.

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-It was an interesting session.

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-Before today I would have said

-I would vote to stay in...

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-..but now I'm less certain.

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-Daniel Hannan can promise the world

-to us if we vote to leave Europe.

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-He was talking about farmers

-receiving grants of 90 per acre.

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-They can say what they like. We'll

-never see payments of 90 per acre.

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-We can forget that.

-He's just trying to tempt us.

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-Unfortunately

-we have to stay in Europe...

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-..because that's where the trade is.

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-90% of our red meat exports

-go to Europe.

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-We can't afford uncertainty in the

-industry, especially at this time.

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-The unfortunate thing

-about our industry...

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-..is that we have the least say

-but we are affected the most.

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-We all know there are advantages and

-disadvantages to being in Europe.

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-We pay in more than we receive

-but it is a market for our produce.

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-Our food is secured by set rules

-and there is traceability.

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-It gives our produce its quality.

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-I think everyone is uncertain

-about the future of agriculture...

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-..if we do leave Europe.

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-We need to be given clear facts

-about what will happen.

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-We're stepping into the unknown.

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-If we don't know

-what we're voting for...

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-..there's no point

-in voting at all.

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-The NFU and the FUW will hold...

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-..a number of events...

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-..over the coming weeks...

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-..to give farmers...

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-..as much information as possible...

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-..before they vote on June 23rd.

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-That's all for part one.

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-Join us after the break

-to see Alun in his seventh heaven...

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-..when he meets the breeder of

-Wales' most expensive sheepdog.

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-We are all used to hearing...

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-..about native Welsh breeds

-of sheep and cattle.

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-A breeder in North Wales...

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-..is enthusiastic over protecting

-breeds of birds.

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-From the Welsh Harlequin ducks

-to the Brecon Buff geese.

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-Rhys Llewelyn is a teacher

-at a Bangor primary school.

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-On evenings and weekends...

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-..his world is all about the ducks,

-hens and geese in Rhoshirwaun.

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-He's had national success

-with his breeding and competing.

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-I've been to a lot of shows

-over the last year.

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-I got a first place

-with my Welsh Harlequin duck...

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-..at the National Poultry Show

-in Telford in November.

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-That was a first in Britain.

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-That was a first in Britain.

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-In that breed, yes.

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-I competed in Haverfordwest

-in January.

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-I competed with

-a trio of Harlequins.

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-I won the Trio Championship

-which I wasn't expecting.

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-What is the history

-of the Harlequin breed?

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-The breed originates

-from Criccieth.

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-In 1949, a man named Bonnet created

-the breed from Khaki Campbells.

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-People are familiar

-with Khaki Campbells.

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-They are a rare breed.

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-By now, a lot of people keep them.

-They're very striking.

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-Their colours stand out.

-I keep them because I'm from Lleyn.

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-Who's this, Rhys?

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-As you can see, this one

-is a Harlequin cockerel.

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-He won for me in Haverfordwest

-in January.

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-As you can see,

-his beak is a yellowish green.

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-The hen's beak

-is the colour of slate.

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-The male's feet are orange.

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-The female's feet are again

-a darker, slate colour.

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-It's important when you look at it

-for the lacing to be perfect...

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-..and for the feathers to match.

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-Can we see the hen?

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-Yes, of course.

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-Oh, she's pretty.

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-Hello.

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-This duck won

-in two big shows last year.

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-How old is she?

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-She's two years old,

-she'll be three this year.

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-He has another breed of ducks here.

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-They're called Magpies.

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-They are a Welsh breed.

-They come from South Wales.

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-There isn't as much information

-available about them...

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-..as there is about the Harlequin.

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-I went down to Devon

-two years ago to buy some.

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-I got some more

-elsewhere last year.

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-There are birds

-in every corner here.

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-The most noisy and possibly the most

-graceful are the geese.

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-These are the Brecon Buffs.

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-They are another Welsh breed

-from South Wales.

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-A man who shares my name...

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-A man who shares my name...

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-Really?

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-An utter coincidence!

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-Rhys Llewellyn

-created the breed in 1929.

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-I think it was down near Swansea.

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-So they're from Swansea

-but they're named for Brecon.

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-I think there's a connection

-with the two areas.

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-I'm not sure

-what the exact details were.

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-There's a nest here with two eggs.

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-I have a chick

-that hatched yesterday.

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-What will you do with these?

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-I may stick them under

-the gold tops next door.

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-They have a few eggs.

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-It's too early for the geese

-to sit on the eggs.

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-There's not much hay outside.

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-It's easier to have the chickens

-to sit on them.

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-Rhys breeds for exhibitions.

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-Hours of preparation go into

-preening and pampering the birds...

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-..to make sure

-they're at their best.

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-You clearly enjoy breeding

-Welsh poultry.

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-Yes, I've been very enthusiastic for

-the Welsh language over the years.

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-I think that's

-an important part of me.

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-Once I found out these

-breeds were Welsh...

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-..I was dying

-to get my hands on them.

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-That's why I keep them.

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-That's why I keep them.

-

-Talk about the society you started.

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-Around two and a half years ago, I

-and two ladies from South Wales...

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-..who also keep Harlequins

-came together to form a society.

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-It isn't an official society

-where people pay to be members.

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-They join through the website.

-By now, there are over 100 of us.

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-I think it's around 110 members

-from all across the world.

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-There are members in the USA, New

-Zealand and a host of other places.

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-I think there are members

-in Italy who keep Harlequins.

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-It's clear that Rhys gets great

-pleasure breeding Welsh poultry.

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-What next for you, Rhys?

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-I'm not sure.

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-I'll raise the birds.

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-Hopefully, they'll turn out

-to be what I want them to be.

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-I've got a lot of work to do

-with the Brecon Buffs and Magpies.

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-They are more recent breeds.

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-I enjoy going around Britain and

-meeting people. It's fun for me.

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-I don't take it too seriously,

-it's just a social thing.

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-I meet people

-from all walks of life.

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-It's just a nice social community.

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-We're used to hearing about rams

-and bulls selling for good prices.

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-In a recent sale near Bala...

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-..a female sheepdog sold

-for a record price in Wales.

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-Alun has been to Nasareth

-in Caernarfon to meet the breeder...

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-..to discover

-the secret behind raising good dogs.

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-Alan Jones is well known

-in sheepdog circles.

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-He's sold dogs in the Netherlands,

-Scotland and the USA.

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-Despite taking a seven-year break

-from sales...

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-..he made his mark recently...

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-..when he sold his bitch, Tess,

-for 7,560 last November.

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-First off, Alan, congratulations.

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-You broke the Welsh record. Did you

-expect that on the day in Bala?

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-No, it didn't cross my mind.

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-I knew Tess was a good dog

-and was worth a good price.

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-I never thought she'd fetch

-that much money.

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-Tess has an interesting character.

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-Yes, absolutely.

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-That was her strength, really.

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-She was a bitch with a good nature.

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-She had a natural aptitude

-for dealing with sheep.

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-She was a strong bitch,

-always a step ahead of the sheep.

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-That type of dog frequently

-struggles to listen or stop.

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-She had a good ear

-and listened well.

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-She's obedient.

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-What's Tess' lineage?

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-She was raised here.

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-She's part of a breed

-I've had now for over 20 years.

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-They suit me,

-I've been lucky in a way.

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-I've been able to breed

-the type of dogs people look for.

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-Hardy dogs with fire in their belly.

-Dogs who give as good as they get.

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-I like that type of dog.

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-That's the foundation.

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-They need the right training then.

-The first few weeks are critical.

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-There's hope after that.

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-Who was the Mr Procter who was brave

-enough to buy her for such a price?

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-He's from Cumbria,

-near Kirkby Stephen.

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-He's a mountain farmer

-and a sheep farmer.

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-He has an interest in breeding dogs.

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-He wanted to run a few trials

-but mostly, she's for work.

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-I hear you'd been selling at home

-for a few years.

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-There was something

-special about Tess.

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-I didn't really know

-what her value was.

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-That is why I decided

-to take her to market.

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-As we all know,

-a market is good for two things.

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-It's a good shop window

-and it can produce fair prices.

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-That's why I took Tess to Bala.

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-Alan keeps 650

-Welsh Mountain Sheep on 320 acres.

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-Half his flock

-is crossed with Texels.

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-He also keeps suckler cows,

-most of which are Limousin crosses.

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-The sheepdogs are Alan's delight.

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-Here they are.

-You keep them in a tidy shed.

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-I try to look after them

-as much as I can.

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-I try to make sure

-they have clean saw dust.

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-What is your favourite kind of dog?

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-You have two types of dog here.

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-You have two types of dog here.

-

-Yes, I do.

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-I like a short, smart dog.

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-I think the word

-I'd use is athletic.

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-That's the kind of dog I like.

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-Sharp, quick dogs.

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-This is Bob. He is Tess' father.

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-He was a tough dog to train.

-It took a lot of work.

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-I could see a bit of light

-at the end of the tunnel.

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-He was good enough

-that I was willing to wait.

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-It's important with harder dogs

-to give them time to learn.

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-It's also important not to take

-their spark away from them.

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-Now we come to what is essentially

-the queen, Tess's mother.

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-What's her name?

0:21:180:21:20

-What's her name?

-

-She's called Lily.

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-What's her situation? Are you going

-to breed more from her?

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-Absolutely.

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-I'm hoping she's got a litter,

-it's a bit early to say at present.

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-She's done a month, hopefully,

-she'll have a litter in March.

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-I'm hoping to get more dogs

-out of her in the long run.

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-From time to time,

-Alan buys a young bitch.

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-He uses Roxy for everyday work.

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-The blue-eyed dog works well.

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-Yes, she's a handy bitch.

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-She'll work for a few more years

-hopefully.

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-Did you buy her at a young age?

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-She was about

-five or six months old.

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-So you've taught her.

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-So you've taught her.

-

-Yes, I taught her.

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-Training dogs is an

-early morning or evening job...

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-..when farm work keeps you busy

-from day to day.

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-There's a busy period ahead

-with lambing coming up soon.

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-These all have one lamb in them.

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-Do you bring them in to a shed?

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-No, we lamb outdoors.

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-With cross-texels?

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-No, the texels are hardy enough.

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-They're Welsh cross too

-so they're hardy.

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-When do you start lambing?

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-When do you start lambing?

-

-We start in mid-March.

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-When did you start training dogs?

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-Where did you learn to do it?

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-I've been interested in it

-since I was at school.

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-After I finished school...

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-..my interest grew and I bought a

-dog from a sale at Llanerch-y-medd.

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-The dog was half taught

-by the late Huw Davies.

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-I didn't know much about dogs

-to be honest.

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-I just had an interest in them.

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-I learned a lot from that.

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-I learned as I went on,

-you can't beat experience.

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-That's it for today.

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-It's nice to see signs of spring

-filling the world.

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-We'll be back

-at the same time next week.

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-Until then, thanks for your company

-and goodnight.

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Y tro hwn, bydd Daloni ynghanol dofednod cynhenid Cymreig yn Rhoshirwaun. Daloni learns more about Welsh poultry breeds in Rhoshirwaun and Alun meets a farmer who breeds quality sheepdogs.


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