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-Hello, welcome to Ffermio...	0:00:18	0:00:20
-..and to Meat Promotion Wales' -annual conference...	0:00:20	0:00:23
-..at the Metropole Hotel -in Llandrindod.	0:00:23	0:00:26
-By lucky coincidence perhaps...	0:00:26	0:00:28
-..lamb prices have risen by 12p -a kilo on the previous week.	0:00:29	0:00:32
-The future of the red meat industry -is under discussion here.	0:00:32	0:00:35
-More about that later.	0:00:36	0:00:38
-Also on the programme, -with Christmas approaching...	0:00:38	0:00:41
-..Daloni will be -in Sarn Mellteyrn...	0:00:42	0:00:44
-..at a market -which sells local produce.	0:00:45	0:00:47
-We also announce the final question -in our competition.	0:00:47	0:00:52
-Every year, Meat Promotion Wales -presents a scholarship...	0:00:52	0:00:56
-..to applicants -who are employed full-time...	0:00:56	0:00:59
-..in the red meat industry in Wales.	0:01:00	0:01:02
-Today, the scholars of 2014...	0:01:02	0:01:04
-..will be sharing the results -of their research.	0:01:05	0:01:08
-Over the past weeks, Meinir and I -have visited them on their farms.	0:01:08	0:01:12
-This year, -there are three scholars...	0:01:14	0:01:16
-..James Powell, Carwyn James -and Dr Eleri Price.	0:01:16	0:01:19
-All three did some of their research -in New Zealand.	0:01:19	0:01:23
-James and his family live on Dol -y Garn farm in Llanbadarn Fynydd.	0:01:24	0:01:28
-They farm 50 cattle -and over 1,000 sheep.	0:01:28	0:01:32
-He chose to study how to improve -the quality of pasture...	0:01:32	0:01:36
-..and the use of marginal land.	0:01:37	0:01:39
-He travelled to New Zealand -and to Ireland.	0:01:39	0:01:42
-I knew New Zealand was intensifying -all the hill development.	0:01:43	0:01:47
-They were doing a low-cost structure -on how to develop the hills.	0:01:49	0:01:54
-It's a situation we have here.	0:01:54	0:01:56
-These hills were developed -back in the '60s and '70s.	0:01:56	0:01:59
-They became fenced-in hills.	0:01:59	0:02:01
-They're basically doing -what we've done.	0:02:01	0:02:04
-They're applying a science to it.	0:02:04	0:02:06
-That's what we've got to do.	0:02:07	0:02:09
-Making more from less.	0:02:10	0:02:11
-They're going further up -into the hills.	0:02:11	0:02:14
-It's challenging terrain, -topography and climate.	0:02:14	0:02:17
-In New Zealand, -the average flock size...	0:02:18	0:02:20
-..would be something like three -or four thousand sheep per man...	0:02:20	0:02:24
-..whereas Ireland is 100 or 200 ewes -per farm, a smaller scale.	0:02:25	0:02:30
-Basically, they've intensified -every blade of grass.	0:02:31	0:02:34
-One who has looked closely -at the research is Gwawr Parry...	0:02:34	0:02:38
-..Industry Development Officer -at Meat Promotion Wales.	0:02:38	0:02:42
-Gwawr, on behalf -of Meat Production Wales...	0:02:43	0:02:46
-..what did you think of James' ideas -in his projects?	0:02:46	0:02:49
-I thought they were very interesting -and different.	0:02:49	0:02:53
-He set out to find different ways -of utilizing his land at home.	0:02:53	0:02:59
-What he has already.	0:02:59	0:03:01
-Using methods that other Welsh -farmers would not have considered.	0:03:01	0:03:05
-They can be used in Wales despite -originating in foreign lands.	0:03:05	0:03:09
-His main points are to make the most -of his land at home...	0:03:09	0:03:13
-..by using methods -from New Zealand and Ireland...	0:03:13	0:03:17
-..to maximize marginal land.	0:03:18	0:03:20
-Land that wouldn't normally be used, -or at least not profitably.	0:03:20	0:03:25
-Maybe it can't be used -to graze animals.	0:03:26	0:03:28
-I'm sure he's mentioned two ways -of making a profit.	0:03:28	0:03:32
-Either increasing income -or cutting costs.	0:03:32	0:03:35
-Does he prefer one -more than the other?	0:03:35	0:03:37
-He concentrates on both...	0:03:37	0:03:39
-..but the main points -of his presentation...	0:03:40	0:03:42
-..highlighted cutting costs.	0:03:42	0:03:44
-Using different methods which were -cheaper than ploughing, for example.	0:03:44	0:03:50
-Using methods like planting turnips -rather than ploughing the land.	0:03:50	0:03:55
-After his travels, James -has improved the land at home...	0:04:00	0:04:04
-..by planting a new crop -he saw in New Zealand.	0:04:04	0:04:07
-A mixture of plantain and clover.	0:04:07	0:04:10
-He's put up an electric fence -to control grazing.	0:04:10	0:04:14
-I've learnt that you start -with the soil fertility...	0:04:14	0:04:18
-..then you learn about the plant.	0:04:18	0:04:20
-Then you get the sheep right. -It follows in that order.	0:04:20	0:04:23
-James has clearly benefitted -from his experience.	0:04:24	0:04:27
-Next, Meinir visits another scholar, -this time in Pembrokeshire.	0:04:27	0:04:31
-It's very difficult -to start farming these days...	0:04:33	0:04:36
-..unless you're likely -to inherit a farm.	0:04:37	0:04:39
-That's why one of the scholars...	0:04:39	0:04:42
-..decided to travel -to the other side of the world...	0:04:42	0:04:45
-..to research -into collaborative farming.	0:04:46	0:04:48
-Carwyn James -from Bwlchclawdd Bach, Crymych...	0:04:49	0:04:52
-..now works as a nutritionist -for ForFarmers.	0:04:52	0:04:55
-He also farms 150 Hereford cattle -and 300 breeding ewes.	0:04:56	0:05:00
-As part of the scholarship...	0:05:00	0:05:03
-..Carwyn opted to spend time -in New Zealand and Australia...	0:05:03	0:05:06
-..where collaborative farming -is very common.	0:05:06	0:05:09
-To be honest, -I've always felt that farmers...	0:05:10	0:05:12
-..could work together -a lot more than they tend to do.	0:05:13	0:05:16
-It was a natural subject -for me to study.	0:05:16	0:05:19
-We've seen a lot of collaboration -in the dairy sector.	0:05:21	0:05:24
-I think that the beef -and lamb sector could benefit...	0:05:25	0:05:29
-..from the methods and business -structures used by dairy farmers.	0:05:29	0:05:34
-What did you learn about working -together in the two countries?	0:05:34	0:05:40
-I saw that the mentality of farmers -in New Zealand and Australia...	0:05:40	0:05:45
-..is very different to the mentality -of farmers in Wales.	0:05:45	0:05:49
-In this country, we tend to consider -every farmer as an individual.	0:05:49	0:05:55
-We see our neighbours as competitors -more than anything else.	0:05:55	0:05:59
-The mentality -was completely different.	0:06:00	0:06:03
-The way of doing business -was also different.	0:06:03	0:06:06
-Family businesses -were totally focused...	0:06:07	0:06:11
-..on making a profit -and being successful.	0:06:11	0:06:15
-People worked together -more efficiently.	0:06:15	0:06:19
-They farmed in order to live...	0:06:22	0:06:24
-..rather than allowing the farm -to dictate their lives.	0:06:24	0:06:29
-By improving structures...	0:06:30	0:06:32
-..it would be possible to bring more -young farmers into the industry...	0:06:32	0:06:37
-..through collaborative working -and offering more realistic rents.	0:06:37	0:06:43
-Landowners could profit...	0:06:44	0:06:47
-..from that investment in the land.	0:06:47	0:06:51
-Farmers would profit -from farming the land.	0:06:51	0:06:56
-As Carwyn comes to the end -of his research period...	0:06:57	0:07:00
-..and reflects back on the work...	0:07:00	0:07:02
-..what does he think -is the way forward for the industry?	0:07:02	0:07:06
-My research highlighted those people -who were willing to work together.	0:07:06	0:07:12
-Those businesses -which collaborated...	0:07:12	0:07:16
-..were usually the ones -able to overcome volatility.	0:07:16	0:07:21
-That was the main lesson I learnt.	0:07:22	0:07:26
-It's one which we should learn -in this country.	0:07:26	0:07:29
-Market prices -are very unpredictable.	0:07:30	0:07:32
-We must learn to deal with that.	0:07:32	0:07:35
-On a personal level...	0:07:36	0:07:38
-..it's made me think about -and analyse our business a lot more.	0:07:38	0:07:42
-I've returned with ideas...	0:07:43	0:07:45
-..on how we can work -with other farmers more efficiently.	0:07:45	0:07:49
-We are considering the possibility -of some kind of contract rearing...	0:07:51	0:07:56
-..which would give farmers -a secure future.	0:07:57	0:08:01
-It would give us more security -to move forward.	0:08:01	0:08:05
-The crucial thing -about collaborative farming...	0:08:06	0:08:11
-..is that every party taking part -is benefitting.	0:08:11	0:08:17
-There are plenty of possibilities -out there.	0:08:17	0:08:20
-It's about choosing the right one -for us as a family and as a farm.	0:08:20	0:08:24
-The next scholar...	0:08:26	0:08:27
-..comes from the heart -of the Brecon Beacons National Park.	0:08:27	0:08:31
-She is Dr Eleri Price.	0:08:31	0:08:33
-In her day job. she is -a project coordinator with IBERS.	0:08:33	0:08:36
-Although she now lives -in Aberystwyth...	0:08:37	0:08:40
-..she returns to the family farm, -Beiligwern in Cray, at weekends.	0:08:40	0:08:45
-She researched genetic selection -for lamb meat yield and quality.	0:08:45	0:08:50
-She did her research -in New Zealand and Australia.	0:08:50	0:08:54
-There are similarities in what -they're breeding for meat yield.	0:08:55	0:08:58
-They are looking at growth, -muscle depth and fat depth...	0:08:59	0:09:03
-..similar to what we are doing.	0:09:03	0:09:05
-They're ahead of us -in terms of meat quality.	0:09:05	0:09:07
-Are we thinking about -what the customer wants here?	0:09:08	0:09:10
-Yes. In Australia, they've done -a lot of consumer taste panels.	0:09:11	0:09:15
-They're using that data, on-farm -data and abattoir data as well.	0:09:16	0:09:20
-They combine that information -to get a system...	0:09:21	0:09:23
-..where they can guarantee -meat quality for the shopper.	0:09:24	0:09:27
-The shopper can pay for a 4-star -or 5-star quality product.	0:09:27	0:09:31
-That payment structure -should also come back to the farmer.	0:09:32	0:09:36
-It's very impressive.	0:09:36	0:09:37
-Everybody wins in a way.	0:09:37	0:09:39
-Everybody wins in a way. - -Yes, the whole supply chain.	0:09:39	0:09:41
-Gwawr, what exactly was -Dr Eleri Price's field of research?	0:09:42	0:09:45
-Eleri looked at genetic selection -for meat yield and quality.	0:09:46	0:09:51
-Improving the genetics of the animal -to improve meat quality...	0:09:52	0:09:55
-..according -to the market's requirements.	0:09:56	0:09:58
-This is mostly done by measurement -in New Zealand and Australia.	0:09:58	0:10:02
-The same steps -could be taken in this country...	0:10:03	0:10:08
-..to try to improve genetics.	0:10:08	0:10:12
-Do farmers not give enough thought -to the consumer in this country?	0:10:12	0:10:16
-Is that something -you want to convince us to do?	0:10:16	0:10:19
-I'm sure it's difficult to think -of your lamb's final destination...	0:10:19	0:10:23
-..when you're busy lambing -in winter.	0:10:23	0:10:26
-But it's important to think about -the final product at that time...	0:10:26	0:10:30
-..or even when you introduce the ram -to the sheep.	0:10:31	0:10:34
-Were there any similarities -between these countries and Wales?	0:10:35	0:10:39
-Maybe we could look -at meat quality in the future.	0:10:40	0:10:43
-What have we got here in Wales -and what can we do in future?	0:10:43	0:10:47
-We need to look -at what our customers want.	0:10:47	0:10:50
-At farm level, we're already -using the ID in this country.	0:10:50	0:10:54
-We need to be looking -at what measurements...	0:10:54	0:10:57
-..we can be recording on-farm...	0:10:57	0:10:59
-..and making more efficient use -of the data on-farm.	0:10:59	0:11:02
-We also need to look -at buying recorded rams.	0:11:03	0:11:06
-That's quite important -to improve genetics.	0:11:06	0:11:09
-It's a permanent thing on-farm...	0:11:09	0:11:11
-..you can gain -for meat yield and quality.	0:11:11	0:11:14
-Congratulations to all of them.	0:11:15	0:11:17
-They're all contributing to -the theme of today's conference...	0:11:17	0:11:21
-..which is -Engage! Gaining Ground Together.	0:11:21	0:11:24
-The lamb sector -has had a terrible year.	0:11:24	0:11:27
-Everyone is looking forward to some -positive messages from the scholars.	0:11:27	0:11:31
-Over 150 people from all parts -of the industry are here today.	0:11:33	0:11:37
-There are five guest speakers, -all with different expertise.	0:11:37	0:11:42
-One of them is Prys Morgan, Head of -Operations at Meat Promotion Wales.	0:11:42	0:11:46
-I think it's important -that everyone works together.	0:11:46	0:11:50
-It's important in all parts -of the supply chain...	0:11:51	0:11:54
-..from producers on farms, -to processors...	0:11:55	0:11:58
-..and to customers who give support -by buying the product.	0:11:58	0:12:03
-We are food producers.	0:12:03	0:12:05
-It's very good -to use the landscape we have...	0:12:05	0:12:08
-..and the way farmers -produce those lambs.	0:12:08	0:12:11
-I think markets are very important.	0:12:12	0:12:14
-Having said that, -the elements we can influence...	0:12:14	0:12:17
-..are production costs, how we -produce and our target markets.	0:12:17	0:12:21
-Those are things we can change.	0:12:21	0:12:23
-We'll take a short break now.	0:12:25	0:12:27
-Join us in a few minutes for more -from the conference in Llandrindod.	0:12:28	0:12:32
-Daloni will also visit a new market -on the Lleyn Peninsula.	0:12:32	0:12:37
-See you shortly.	0:12:37	0:12:39
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-Welcome back to -the Meat Promotion Wales conference.	0:12:48	0:12:51
-Many issues are being discussed, -from exports to marketing.	0:12:51	0:12:55
-There are lots -of interesting workshops too.	0:12:55	0:12:58
-One of these focuses on butchering, -with Elwen Roberts and Rob Rattray.	0:13:00	0:13:04
-They want to show how supermarkets -choose cuts of meat to sell.	0:13:05	0:13:10
-It's mostly producers -that are here today.	0:13:10	0:13:13
-They're thinking about -their own situation on their farms.	0:13:13	0:13:18
-We're trying to give them -the customers' perspective here.	0:13:18	0:13:24
-Rob could talk about -what customers ask him in his shop.	0:13:24	0:13:29
-He's a farmer too, so that was good.	0:13:29	0:13:31
-It was a chance -for Meat Promotion Wales to learn.	0:13:32	0:13:35
-We could see what we need to do -to help farmers even more...	0:13:35	0:13:39
-..to develop their produce -and so on.	0:13:39	0:13:42
-With all the information available -today, what are the farmers' views?	0:13:44	0:13:50
-Everything has been fantastic. We've -seen both ends of the food chain.	0:13:51	0:13:56
-We've just seen Rob Rattray.	0:13:56	0:13:59
-It's nice to hear -what a butcher looks for.	0:13:59	0:14:02
-He knows first-hand -what a customer wants.	0:14:02	0:14:05
-It's been interesting -to hear talks...	0:14:07	0:14:09
-..by young people -who've been to other countries.	0:14:09	0:14:12
-I enjoyed that very much.	0:14:13	0:14:15
-There was plenty of information -on where there have been problems.	0:14:15	0:14:20
-They're not in this country, -they're worldwide.	0:14:20	0:14:25
-Welsh lamb has been up against it -this year.	0:14:25	0:14:28
-It's my first time at -the Meat Promotion Wales conference.	0:14:29	0:14:32
-It's a shop window for the industry.	0:14:32	0:14:35
-It's nice to learn -from the speakers here today...	0:14:35	0:14:39
-..what goes on behind the scenes.	0:14:39	0:14:42
-With Christmas nearing, there's -more interest in local markets...	0:14:45	0:14:49
-..in terms of offering ideas -for original presents.	0:14:49	0:14:52
-Recently, Daloni went to -Sarn Mellteyrn Memorial Hall...	0:14:52	0:14:56
-..to see the best produce -from the Lleyn Peninsula.	0:14:56	0:15:00
-Local produce markets -are very popular at the moment.	0:15:00	0:15:04
-On the first Saturday -of every month...	0:15:04	0:15:06
-..one is held here -at Sarn Mellteyrn Hall.	0:15:07	0:15:09
-I've come to find out who comes here -to buy, who's selling...	0:15:09	0:15:13
-..and what they're selling.	0:15:13	0:15:15
-The market only began this Easter.	0:15:19	0:15:22
-There were just six stalls here -initially...	0:15:22	0:15:25
-..and it was intended -to be held in the summer only.	0:15:25	0:15:29
-The number of stalls -has now doubled...	0:15:29	0:15:32
-..and the market continues to grow.	0:15:32	0:15:34
-This market has followed on...	0:15:35	0:15:37
-..from the development kitchen -we have at Ysgol Botwnnog.	0:15:37	0:15:41
-We wanted to offer a platform -for local produce.	0:15:41	0:15:44
-Businesses were given the chance -to sell their produce locally.	0:15:44	0:15:48
-Who sells here?	0:15:48	0:15:50
-Who sells here? - -There are lots of stallholders.	0:15:50	0:15:52
-We have food and craft stalls.	0:15:53	0:15:55
-There are vegetables, bread, bacon.	0:15:55	0:15:58
-All sorts.	0:15:58	0:15:59
-Crafts, bracelets, wool products.	0:16:00	0:16:03
-Everything you can think of!	0:16:04	0:16:06
-It's busy here, Nia.	0:16:07	0:16:08
-How have you -got the market on its feet?	0:16:08	0:16:11
-We've brought together -a good group of stallholders.	0:16:11	0:16:14
-They told us they wanted -to set up a market of local produce.	0:16:15	0:16:19
-They've been leading from the start.	0:16:19	0:16:22
-Have you had any financial support?	0:16:22	0:16:24
-We're very glad -to have received funding...	0:16:25	0:16:27
-..from the Lleyn AONB -Sustainable Development Fund.	0:16:28	0:16:31
-It was valuable in getting us on our -feet and will help us going forward.	0:16:32	0:16:36
-Sharon Jones -is one of the stallholders.	0:16:37	0:16:40
-She runs Moch Llyn, -from Penarfynydd farm, Rhiw.	0:16:40	0:16:44
-Sharon is the ambassador -of the Wales pork industry.	0:16:45	0:16:48
-I think -that markets like this one...	0:16:49	0:16:52
-..are very important -to the industry on Lleyn.	0:16:52	0:16:56
-Customers can come to us, -see our produce...	0:16:56	0:17:01
-..we're there to help them...	0:17:01	0:17:04
-..and it also raises their awareness -of local producers.	0:17:04	0:17:09
-As ambassador, -I'd like it if the public...	0:17:10	0:17:15
-..bought more pork products -from producers.	0:17:15	0:17:20
-They'd get to know -the meat's provenance...	0:17:20	0:17:23
-..and they'd realize -that it's completely different...	0:17:23	0:17:27
-..to meat that's processed and sold -in some of the supermarkets.	0:17:27	0:17:32
-As well as all the tasty foods...	0:17:33	0:17:36
-..there are various stalls -which sell hand-made products.	0:17:36	0:17:40
-What's the story -behind Gair ar Bwyth?	0:17:46	0:17:48
-It started two years ago -as a hobby.	0:17:48	0:17:51
-Something to do in the evenings.	0:17:52	0:17:54
-Instead of buying the kits, -I thought I'd make one.	0:17:54	0:17:59
-Design it myself.	0:17:59	0:18:01
-Welsh words, sayings and hymns. -That's how it started.	0:18:01	0:18:06
-It gives you pleasure.	0:18:06	0:18:08
-It gives you pleasure. - -Yes.	0:18:08	0:18:09
-Pleser Pur started in a cafe.	0:18:10	0:18:15
-Chutneys and jams -were being made in the cafe.	0:18:15	0:18:20
-Someone asked us -if we could sell a product...	0:18:21	0:18:25
-..as they wanted it -as a Christmas present.	0:18:25	0:18:29
-That's how it started.	0:18:30	0:18:32
-At the start of the year, you could -try for a Great Taste award.	0:18:32	0:18:38
-We've been lucky -to have been awarded two stars.	0:18:38	0:18:42
-We're very proud of that.	0:18:42	0:18:44
-You have some cakes here, Geraint.	0:18:49	0:18:52
-We've ran out -of one thing you'd like.	0:18:52	0:18:54
-The sausage rolls have all gone.	0:18:54	0:18:55
-The sausage rolls have all gone. - -They've all gone!	0:18:55	0:18:57
-Drat! I was going -to have some for lunch.	0:18:57	0:18:59
-You're Islyn Bakery.	0:19:00	0:19:02
-How important is this market -for a small business?	0:19:02	0:19:06
-Very important.	0:19:06	0:19:08
-It's a very cheap advert for us.	0:19:08	0:19:10
-We're based in Aberdaron, -the so-called end of the world.	0:19:11	0:19:16
-It helps for us to leave there...	0:19:16	0:19:19
-..and for people in Sarn and nearby -to see us.	0:19:19	0:19:23
-Cegin Grug produce.	0:19:24	0:19:25
-It's a little different.	0:19:26	0:19:28
-Baklava.	0:19:28	0:19:30
-That's not Welsh.	0:19:30	0:19:31
-No!	0:19:31	0:19:33
-There are stalls here -which make bara brith.	0:19:33	0:19:37
-I thought -we'd bring different foods.	0:19:37	0:19:41
-Cegin Grug does buffets -and outside catering.	0:19:41	0:19:44
-People like a different twist, -such as Mediterranean food.	0:19:45	0:19:51
-What are those chocolate -truffle cookies over there?	0:19:51	0:19:55
-They're a bit naughty -as they contain amaretto.	0:19:55	0:19:59
-I feel a bit naughty -and I like amaretto.	0:19:59	0:20:03
-OK. Great.	0:20:03	0:20:04
-This basket is heavy now!	0:20:05	0:20:06
-Thank you very much.	0:20:07	0:20:08
-Thank you very much. - -Lovely.	0:20:08	0:20:09
-One who's encouraged producers -and shoppers to come here...	0:20:11	0:20:15
-..is the marketing officer, -Lowri Rees Roberts.	0:20:15	0:20:18
-It started -with the development kitchen...	0:20:18	0:20:21
-..and then the natural step -was to set up this market.	0:20:21	0:20:25
-I've been working with Sian and Nia -to get the market on its feet.	0:20:25	0:20:29
-How busy -is the development kitchen now?	0:20:29	0:20:33
-It's busy.	0:20:33	0:20:34
-A lot of people -at the market today...	0:20:35	0:20:37
-..developed their produce -in that kitchen.	0:20:37	0:20:40
-That produce is here today, -which is fantastic.	0:20:40	0:20:44
-I'm going home -with an overflowing basket.	0:20:50	0:20:53
-I have plenty for Sunday lunch.	0:20:53	0:20:56
-This, as you can see...	0:20:57	0:20:58
-..is proof that Lleyn produce market -is successful.	0:20:58	0:21:03
-What a day and what a conference.	0:21:07	0:21:09
-Now, a chance -for you to win a trailer.	0:21:09	0:21:11
-The final question -in our competition.	0:21:12	0:21:14
-The first prize -is the 10-foot TA5G trailer.	0:21:17	0:21:21
-The second prize -is the LM85G trailer.	0:21:21	0:21:24
-The third prize is the Q5e trailer.	0:21:25	0:21:29
-Together, they are worth -over 7,000...	0:21:29	0:21:31
-..and have been kindly donated -by Ifor Williams Trailers.	0:21:32	0:21:35
-To win one of them, you'll need -to answer seven simple questions.	0:21:36	0:21:40
-The first letter of each answer...	0:21:41	0:21:43
-..will be an anagram -of a seven-letter word.	0:21:43	0:21:46
-You'll have to send us that word -by 25 November.	0:21:47	0:21:52
-Here's the final question.	0:21:54	0:21:57
-A vehicle which travels on tracks.	0:21:58	0:22:03
-That's it, all the questions -have been asked.	0:22:03	0:22:06
-If you think you know -the seven-letter word...	0:22:06	0:22:10
-..send your answer, name, -full address and telephone number...	0:22:10	0:22:16
-..to Ffermio Competition, Telesgop, -Bay Studios, Fabian Way...	0:22:16	0:22:22
-..Swansea, SA1 8QB.	0:22:23	0:22:29
-Or you can enter by submitting -the form on our website.	0:22:29	0:22:32
-You must be 18 years or over -to take part...	0:22:33	0:22:36
-..and we must receive your entry -by 25 November.	0:22:36	0:22:41
-If you're one -of the lucky winners...	0:22:42	0:22:45
-..you'll have to collect the trailer -on the Tuesday at the Winter Fair.	0:22:45	0:22:49
-Good luck to you all.	0:22:50	0:22:51
-That's it for this programme.	0:22:53	0:22:55
-It's been an interesting day...	0:22:55	0:22:57
-..of exchanging ideas on the -future direction of the industry.	0:22:57	0:23:02
-Our income from the market -may be lower this year...	0:23:02	0:23:05
-..but maybe -our financial management is better.	0:23:06	0:23:09
-It's important that those of us here -go home, look at our businesses...	0:23:09	0:23:13
-..and decide what suits us -from what we've heard today.	0:23:13	0:23:17
-From me and the Ffermio crew, -thanks for joining us.	0:23:17	0:23:20
-Goodbye.	0:23:21	0:23:22
-S4C Subtitles by Testun Cyf.	0:23:36	0:23:38
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