Episode 5 Out of the Blue

Episode 5

Live magazine show reporting on Northern Ireland's cultural scene. The story of the 70s gig which changed Northern Irish music. And a performance from Rams Pocket Radio.

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Welcome to Out Of The Blue. Wur we're live with Graham Little and


Joanne Salley. They wowed the crowd at Glastonbury, now they are here,


Rams Pocket Radio get the chance to do the same in their very own back


yard. He has raised a few eyebrows for


mixing religious imagery with Amy Winehouse and Paris Hilton, we have


a 60-minute masterpiece for us. We will tell you how you could own


a Sparky piece of Starkie later on. Rioting, bigotry, sectarian


division, and paramilitaries on steroids. He has laughed at the lot,


the funnyist man in Northern Ireland with ginger hair, it is


Jake O'Kane. A special thanks, it was supposed to be Larry Lamb, but


he as aund doctors orders not to fly, he hopes to join us soon. And


Jake has stepped in, and a great stand-up. You are on two with the


Teargas Tour, how difficult is it to get a laugh out of something


like The Troubles? It is the backdrop of the Trouble, growing up


in t it is just talking about how we lived and survived it. You are


attracting more than a local audience? The Internet has changed


everything. It came out on DVD, I got an e-mail from a student in


Brussels, some girl had clicked on Dara O'Brien, clicked on Colin


Murphy, and clicked on me, and she bought my DVD. You are going to be


a pin-up? Not with this head. power of the internet, we will chat


more to Jake later and find out what made him turn to comedy.


Jones told the public last week he will perform songs by the Clash for


the first time in more than 30 years. It is to raise money for the


Hillsborough Justice Campaign, to support families and victims of the


Hillsborough football disaster. The Clash were one of the few to


play in Belfast in the 170s, as Michael Bradley finds out t nearly


didn't happen. Before 1977 there was this...#


your hands on your hips. And a lot of this:


Then, this happened...# We're so pretty


# I'm so pretty The punk revolution had started.


Here in Northern Ireland, a very different form of rebellion was


happening. The 70s saw some of the worst


atrocities of the Troubles. On the 20tf October, 1977, these


two worlds collided. In 1977, I was 18 years old, our band, the


Undertones, were a punk band. We bought punk rock records, we read


about punk rock bands, The Sex Pistols, the Clash, the Dammed. We


never saw them live, bands like that, they didn't come here. Then


in October, 177, we heard the news, that the Clash were coming to


Belfast. Clash, Clash, Clash. # London's calling


# The far away town Part of the original punk rock wave,


the clash were the only -- Clash were the only band that mattered.


They came one a line that summed it up "no Elvis beet Beatles or


Rolling Stones in 177 ". The fact they were hoping in the Ulster Hall,


was massive news. But punk's rebellious image was to be the


big's downfall. On the day of the show, the Clash were having their


photos taken. Meanwhile, trouble was brewing down in Bedford Street.


As fans gathered outside the Ulster Hall, a few windows got broken.


With punk's reputation, the insurers felt the gig had to be


cancelled. I was here, October 1977, 5.30. We


were all sitting on the front steps waiting for the Clash to turn up.


We were the only punk band in Belfast at the time. We were


playing gigs in our own I can't remember, in east Belfast. All of a


sudden there were hundreds of other people we had never seen before.


People were talking about starting bands and fan zeens. People were


sitting in the middle of the road and blocking the traffic. They were


really annoyed the gig had been pulled, and nobody told anyone what


was happening. Once the police arrested people, everyone ran round


to the Europe pa Hotel, where the Clash were staying. It was a big


thing for the clash to come and play Belfast. At that time we


hadn't been getting a lot of bands. It wasn't like the 60s with we got


the Beatles and Stones, people weren't coming to Northern Ireland.


That was fantastic gig, for it to be cancelled and the kids po


geosing in the -- pogoing in the streets. But the story didn't end


there, two months later it was announced the Clash would return to


Belfast, this time playing in the Queen's Students Union. Five days


before Christmas, Belfast's young puanks, who had realised -- punks,


who had realised that they were not alone, converged on Queen's


Students' Union. I arrived down with my brothers, and other


associated outcast members, in a wee gang. We arrived in to a heavy


bouncer presence outside, where every single person in that queue


had to stand there and be striped of their studded armbands, neck


chain, toilet chains, safety pins. From the moment Joe Strumer punched


a Christmas balloon over his head, the crowd went wild. References to


Northern Ireland pep earth the set. People got on to the stage for the


last song, and then out to the police on the avenue. It was mind-


blowing. It is the first time you were meeting guys from the Shankill,


and the Falls, guys you didn't know were puanks in Belfast. As a band


we only played a couple of gigs, and then you realised, punks could


give you a chance to be a band. if the police thought the punks


were going to cause trouble, they were wrong. With their heads full


of it, their future was punk. I have to ask, have you been ever


tempted to wear the leather trou serbs the dog colour, the safety


pin? I was the sqareest man in Northern Ireland. Tweed and brogues,


punk was not for me! If you are so sqare, where did all the comedy


come, a lot of laughter in the house growing up, observing and


watching it? Just watching the lunacy around you. You didn't think


about doing it in those days, no Empire Laughs Back in those days.


You fell into it, it was good enough for Graham Norton, good


enough for you. You were a barman for a bit s that right? For most of


my career. It was very exotic, north Belfast bars are very exotic.


Were you entertaining all the customers there? No, actually. I


tried to get into the Empire Laughs Back, I couldn't get in, it was


packed as usual. Someone said if you do an open spot you will get in,


guaranteed, that is why I did it, to get in. Another comedy club


opened up after, that I started compereing there. You must have


made an impression, it was the following week, you did the open


spot and then Compering. It was Paddy, I chanced my arm, I did an


open spot, and he asked me if I had done compering before, and I said,


loads of it, chancing my arm, and lucky enough got the gig. Who was


inspiring you then, who were the comedy heros? Billy Connelly. But


there was local guys breaking through then, in the circuit in


London, Eoin O'Neil, and Kevin McElear, over doing the circuit in


London at the time. They were the guys you aimed for. You obviously


dealt with a few heckler, maybe in London, the comedy might not have


sparked their interest? The best hecklers in the world is here. You


don't get heckled in London, they all sit, terribly nice, very funny,


ginger chapy. In Belfast they will rip your throat out. What is the


worst you can tell us about at this time? The generic one in Belfast


and it means nothing, "you're ma", you get that from nowhere. Yes, I


met her, she was a lovely lady. moments of silence and they will


kill you. You are back with The Blame Game, another series, why do


people love it? It is local and talking about what is happening the


day before or that day, it is current, we try to keep it as


current as possible. The original team are back, so it is myself,


Colin Murphy, Neil and Tim. It is great fun. It certainly is great


money. There is the unmistakable sound of John Coltrane, time for


another self-curated exhibition of My Favourite Things. This week it


is the turn of one of our best loved actresss to pick the four


pieces of art that mean the most to her.


I'm looking at one of the most beautiful paintings in the world.


It is of a really, really beautiful place. We're talking about Straig


htkilly, in Caren Loch, by a very important painter, Sam McLarnon. He


has such knowledge of county Antrim and down the Antrim coast. Just


where there is a beautiful little sunspot on the painting is where my


husband and I had a caravan. It still means as much to me now as it


did then. I hope that you all get the same pleasure from this picture,


as I have done. A book, oh, it is a wonderful book


and a glorious story about a beautiful young girl, who falls in


love with a very handsome wonderful boy, and I'm speaking, of course,


of Lorna Doone, by RD Black mld more. I read this book whenever I


was -- RD Blackmore, I read this book when I was a child, I imagined


myself as Lorna, I was beautiful and all those sorts of things. Then


again, I read it later on whenever I got the real meaning. Another


very interesting thing, it is written through the eyes of the man,


and there aren't very many romantic stories written that way. They go


through so much, but what's the age-old story, love will overcome.


Oh! It's my favourite, oh, I absolutely love this. My life just


isn't complete without this. It's a wonderful place, and a wonderful


time, and everybody's so romantic. I'm watching Downton Abbey, created


by Julian Fellows. What a fabulous show. It really is, and it's based


in history, 1914-1918 war, where everything just changed and all


these people who were living this very luxurious life, it was very


much a two-tiered system, you were either upstairs or downstairs. I'm


so envious of Maggie Smith's performance. She's an amazing woman,


she can just give a look and you're away. But I love watching T it is


just he is -- it is such escape. Just escape into it all and enjoy.


Oh. This is my very, very favourite and personal piece of music. I just


love it, because it is My Bill is the title of the piece. My late


husband was called Bill, it obviously has very personal, just


feelings for me. It's from the show Show Boat. It takes place on a


river boat. Down the Mississippi, and it is just a lovely, very


cloufl show, lots of marvellous dancing -- colourful show,


marvellous dancing, it goes through every emotion, heart break, love. A


lovely escape. Thank you very much. This has been such a wonderful


experience of walking through my life. I have loved it.


Back in the studio, meanwhile, done national -- Domnall is still hard


at work on his masterpiece. Jake, if money was no object, what work


of art would you like on your wall? A wee Van Gogh, I would survive


with that, a guy called Marky Robinson, he lived and painted here


all his life. I imagined to save up and buy one of his, a lot cheaper


than a Van Gogh. Could you even buy one? Could you steal one, but I


know a guy who will get you one, a few quid. Is the Tear gas Tour,


autobiograical. The backdrop is growing up here, wee anecdotes and


stories weaved into it. I'm sure you played a variety of venues


throughout your career a small show or big show do you prefer? Big is


easier, more people may laugh! So the smaller show you have less


opportunity, you know, if they don't like it they don't like it.


There is so many venues now in the north, there is beautiful wee


theatre, the Courthouse in Antrim, small and intimate, perfect for


stand-up. Next March St pad trick's day, the Opera House, big, big,


venue. You have played all the big name clubs, do you find audiences


away from home difficult to play to? What surprised me, the heckling,


the first time I played London, I was shouting. They were all sort of


sitting three nice, and why is he shouting at us, I say Daphne, why


is he shouting. They are very respectful and they listen. You had


to tone it down, I remember Jackie Hamilton gave me the best piece of


advice I have ever had, when I was starting off, speak slower. Once


you get outside Northern Ireland, you realise we speak at a different


speed. You can see them looking at you, it is English, but I don't


understand what he's saying. Have you made anyone cry? No, I have


tried hard. It is badge of honour for you guys, any tips for


comedians watching? Get up there, give it a Government the Empire


Comedy Club has an open spot, that is why I came through. I have two


guys on my tour with me, kicking off their careers, Rory Ward and


Nicky Bartlett. Two cracking blokes, you have a whole new slot culling


through. That is what it should be. Don't -- lot coming through. That


is what it should be. Not too fast, but coming through!


We have always had a thing here about animals in these islands, for


generations they have turned up in our literature, from the Jungle


Book, the Fantastic Mr Fox, and the Lion, The Witch and the Ward Robe,


conceived down the road here by CS Lewis. Carrie Neely has found that


getting stuffed is hot stuff in the art world! It is an age since


taxidermy was all the raiblg. The Victorians loved it -- rage. The


Victorians loved it. What they thought as elegant and respectful,


they thought as nailed on vulgar. But fashions change, and the full


mounted is back in vogue. Celebrities like Courtney Love and


Kate Moss are new fans of this art. And artists are shamelessly


showcaseing road kill, taxidermy is back from the dead. Most of us will


admit to having a morbid fascination of observing something


that once had light. That is not enough to make, is it? David Irwin


thinks it is less about art form than life form. He has given


immortality to everything from stags to pheasants, crocodiles to


foxes. So, this all looks pretty morbid and gruesome, is it really


art? Yeah, absolutely. It would be more gruesome from an outsider's


point of view, but saying that, it is an art farm. Obviously you are


taking a dead bird or animal, and make it looks a it was when it was


alive. It is like sculpt theing. Once the -- sculpting. The animal


is stuffed and wired up to give it form. Get the wings into shape.


is coming to life now. It is something to be proud of when you


put something back the way it was when it was alive. This Lord of the


skies with cost �150 to be put back on a perch. It could set you back


�3,500 to stuff one of these "deer" friends. What about a two-foot


crocodile. One that died in a pet shop. I have never done one before,


I'm looking forward to see how it turns out.


European taxidermy goes back to the 1600s, two centuries later, our


greatest naturalist, Charles Darwin, was a fan of extending the shelf


life of his creatures. Now, modern day artist, such as Polly Morgan,


are breathing new life into this dead art form. Is using dead


animals really art? It depends what you do with your material. I think


that dead animals can be art just as much as a lump of play clai can


be art, once fashioned by the artist using it. People make the


mistake of thinking my work is morbid and I'm dwelling shrol


solely on death. My work is about triumph over death, and something


dies and something else is born. Your animals are normally road kill


or have been found dead. Is it true you have eaten some of your work?


tried some once, I tried a bit of fox once. How did the fox taste?


Kind of like a very greasey, chewy steak w a not particularly pleasant


aftertaste. Courtney skaf love and Kate Moss


love your work, why has it made the leap to cool? Before you used to


mimic the habitat, I put them in less conventional settings, to line


them with contemporary art. That awakens an interest in people that


wasn't there before. Polyraised more than a few eyebrows in


Northern Ireland, when she brought her tour of dead birds to the Boyd


Gallery in Londonderry. reaction was generally pretty good,


most people liked t not everyone did. Really? It does divide opinion.


People either love or hate taxi determiney, I think. If you mis--


Taxidermy, I think. If you missed the tour, take a look around the


4,000 plus specimens at the Ulster Museum. It's not really my cup of


tea, but from one artist to the next, Domnall Starkie has been


under pressure to create a work of art in just 60 minutes. What on


earth is this all about? Basically the painting is auld, I Would Have


Died If I didn't Get That Bag. It is play on the way people say ne


would die if they don't get this, and they don't understand how


flipant it is, it is about the consumer-driven society, and the


stark contrast, people with nothing. So the bag is the real key piece in


this? Why would a starving child have a designer bag or want one. It


is making fun of the obsession with designer goods or the top of the


range stuff. It means nothing, really. It is really great. You


were a graphic designer for ten years, I can see the influence why


your work, has that helped you? don't know if it has helped me. It


is kind of like, I think it is just naturally happened, that I would


paint in that way. I suppose it has affected the way I paint. It is


lending itself to clothes. What this old thing! Me and my partner


are starting up a business called Smart Swag, we paint on anything.


Literally anything that we can paint on, we do clothes and


repurpose furniture and turn it into pieces of art, one-offs that


people can wear. We will look out for those. All you have to do is


sign it. If you would like Domnall's work, all the work is


being auctioned off with the proceeds going to Children in Need.


Log on to the website. Go to the Northern Ireland section for more


information. From art to music now, performing


live for us tonight are Rams Pocket Radio, described recently on BBC 6


music no less as a positive threat to every other piano-based band


around. That is a big thing to live up. Peter McCauley is here to talk


to us. A great accolade, pressure now? It is great to hearing things


like, that but there is pressure. You can see why people are saying,


that you have had a brilliant time of late? Lots happening, touring


about, had a busy summer doing a few different festivals. We got to


play Glastonbury, and supported Snow Patrol. And he get drgd up on


stage on the EM As. They are trying to steal her, they are not getting


her. You are an architect, or you have studied architecture before


coming back to music. You went to Worthing, hardly the rock and roll


capital? I was trying to pursue the rock and roll dream before I went


to uni. We thought let's go to London? Brighton? Too expensive,


let's go to the place near Brighton that is cheaper. The name has


nothing to do with lisence Bonn, where does Rams Pocket Radio come


from? It is named after a designer called Dieter Rams, it was stuff in


the 50s, it was influential in stuff like the iPod and apple. I


aspire to make music that has the same longevity. We are back, 7.30


next Monday, with a story of the intense rivalry between two men


determined to leave their stamp forever on the Belfast skyline. And


Niamh Perry learns how choirs are changing their tune. And music from


The Wonder Villains. Now we have Rams Pocket Radio and Dogs Running


In Packs. # Let me tell you about this


# Two reasons to # Word could say


# Let me tell you about # Distance


# Why you gotta go # It's in your head


# That things are said # Burning so


# Now you were told # They got you with the backhand


# Know what you're thinking # Stab you in the back


# Got me in the back # Making tracks


# Feeling it a little # Like I'm in a vice


# Dogs run in packs # So tell me about your FA see,


# You need to change # Doesn't make it price


# If you try from the fact # You're stuck in that crowd


# I tell you now # Got you in the back


# Running with the pack # What your athinking


# Stab you in the back # Got you in the back


Graham Little and Joanne Salley present the live show putting a surprising twist on what's happening in Northern Ireland's cultural scene.

Michael Bradley reveals the story of the 70s gig which changed the face of Northern Irish music. Carrie Neely discovers why taxidermy is now hot stuff, and Rams Pocket Radio perform live.

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