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-Over recent months, the Perthyn team

-has been researching your stories.

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-From Pembrokeshire

-to the Lleyn Peninsula...

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-..we've seen tears

-of sadness and joy.

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-We've solved mysteries

-and united families.

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-Oh, no!

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-There's a likeness.

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-There's a likeness.

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-Maybe.

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-My great-great-great-great-great

-grandfather.

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-Well, well, well.

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-Well, well, well.

-

-That's exciting.

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-Grace Williams.

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-Typhoid fever. Very sad.

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-As you see,

-she was illegitimate.

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-They're the interesting ones.

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-I know who you are.

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-I know who you are.

-

-Do you?

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-I'm learning something new

-about this family every day.

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-He's your great-great-great-great

-great-great grandfather.

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-Hywel, here's Olive.

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-I've seen how tracing your family

-tree can become an obsession.

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-Sian Rees's experience

-is a familiar story.

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-You were raised in Rhyl.

-What was it like living in Rhyl?

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-I moved to Rhyl from Cricieth

-when I was eight years old.

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-I didn't know what to expect.

-My grandfather lived there.

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-Someone told my mother,

-"Oh, you're going to live in Sodom!"

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-People talked about the fair and a

-social lower class that lived here.

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-I didn't see any of that

-when I grew up.

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-It was a lovely place. I'll

-defend Rhyl until my dying days!

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-How did your family end up in Rhyl?

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-William Jones,

-my great-great grandfather...

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-..moved from Aberdaron to Rhyl

-some time after 1851.

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-He was a Welsh speaker

-and all his family spoke Welsh.

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-Today, I'm the only Welsh speaker

-in my family.

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-An interesting name appears

-in your family tree.

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-Yes - Love.

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-It's been in the family since

-William Jones moved from Aberdaron.

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-Many family members

-have Love as their middle name.

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-Often, an event inspires people

-to research their family tree.

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-Did that happen to you?

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-As a young girl,

-I remember my father telling me...

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-..that our family was related

-to the King of Bardsey.

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-Of course, as a child, I didn't pay

-much attention to that...

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-..but it did trigger something

-deep in my imagination.

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-Since I started tracing

-my family tree...

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-..it has become, at times,

-an obsession.

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-Aberdaron and the surrounding area

-is my spiritual home.

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-My mother's side of the family

-hails from that area.

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-Now, I'm hoping to confirm

-that my father's side does too.

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-The link with Bardsey is a mystery

-I'd like to see solved...

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-..if that's possible.

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-How many of us realize that Bardsey

-had its own king at one time?

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-Love Pritchard

-was the island's last king.

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-The kingdom

-was part humorous, part serious.

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-It was established

-two centuries ago.

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-Sian wants to discover

-if she's related to Love Pritchard.

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-Sian's journey doesn't begin

-on the Lleyn Peninsula.

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-She's in Rhyl,

-the family's home for generations.

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-Sian has fond memories of the town.

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-William Jones,

-her great-great grandfather...

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-..was the first family member

-to move here.

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-She thinks he came from Aberdaron...

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-..but she has little information

-about him.

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-Sian is on her way

-to Foryd Harbour in Rhyl...

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-..to meet historian Dilwyn Williams.

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-I've been told by my family...

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-..that William Jones

-came from Aberdaron.

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-He moved to Rhyl in the 1850s.

-He worked as a corn merchant.

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-Do you have any information

-about that?

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-Corn would have been harvested

-in the Vale of Clwyd at that time.

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-That could have been a reason

-for him moving here.

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-He saw an opportunity to trade.

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-Rhyl was a town in its infancy

-but it was rapidly growing...

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-..as a seaside town

-and a holiday destination.

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-The advent of the railway in 1848

-made it more accessible.

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-It made life easier.

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-The ports of Rhuddlan and Foryd

-had been operating for generations.

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-Ships would regularly dock here

-to load cargo...

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-..back and forth, along

-the coastline, mainly to Liverpool.

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-That was probably his main reason

-for moving to Rhyl.

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-Do you know if he was successful

-in his venture?

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-Well, yes. He was.

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-The warehouse he owned is still

-here, in the town centre.

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-It's no longer a warehouse,

-it's a bank nowadays.

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-Here's his obituary

-from the Rhyl Journal.

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-"An Old Resident's Death.

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-"He at one time...

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-"..had a warehouse on the site...

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-"..of the North and South Wales

-Bank, Rhyl."

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-I'm glad to say, it's still there.

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-As well as being a successful

-corn trader in Rhyl...

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-..William Jones's obituary

-also confirms the family story...

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-..that he was originally

-from Aberdaron.

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-Throughout the Victorian age,

-Rhyl flourished.

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-It became a popular

-holiday destination.

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-The railway brought the town

-new opportunities.

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-Like every successful town,

-it needed a football club.

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-One of Sian's relatives

-played for the club...

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-..at the turn of the 20th century.

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-Sian is visiting

-Belle Vue Stadium...

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-..to meet football commentator

-Glyn Griffiths.

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-My grandmother's brother

-used to play football for Rhyl.

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-Have you found

-any further details about him?

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-John Love Jones, or

-John Lovey Jones as he was known...

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-..went on to become

-a professional player.

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-He played for Rhyl from 1903-1905.

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-In 1905, he played for Rhyl

-against Birkenhead.

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-The secretary of Stoke City

-was a spectator at that game.

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-A secretary was a club's manager

-in those days.

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-He was so pleased with

-John Love Jones's performance...

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-..he signed him for Stoke City

-before he returned home that night.

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-After playing for Stoke City, he

-went on to play for Middlesbrough.

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-He also played twice for Wales.

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-He won his first cap in 1906...

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-..an away match against Scotland

-in Edinburgh.

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-Wales won 2-0 and John Love Jones

-scored one of the goals.

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-He was at his best

-playing on the wing...

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-..where he had more room to play.

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-Most of the players

-would crowd the penalty area.

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-But tragedy soon struck.

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-At the age of 28,

-John Love Jones died of TB.

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-Lovey Jones's glittering career

-was over.

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-He would have played

-far more games for Wales.

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-As it is, he was one of the first

-Rhyl players to play for Wales.

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-He was a pioneer of his sport

-in Rhyl at the turn of the century.

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-Thank you.

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-Here's something else, Sian,

-to remind you of John Love Jones...

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-..and his association with Rhyl FC,

-where his career started...

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-..here's a Rhyl FC hat

-as a souvenir...

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-..and a Rhyl FC scarf.

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-CPD - Clwb Pel-droed Y Rhyl.

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-They'll keep you warm!

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-Great! Thank you very much.

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-Thank you.

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-Like John Love Jones,

-the footballer...

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-..corn merchant William Jones

-was one of Rhyl's famous sons.

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-Despite passing the building

-many times over the years...

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-..the site of his business

-was a mystery to Sian.

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-The obituary in the Rhyl Journal

-has filled in many gaps...

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-..and brought his character to life

-for her.

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-I didn't realize

-that he'd been so successful.

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-He ran this huge warehouse

-in the centre of Rhyl.

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-The obituary mentioned a lot

-of positive facts about him.

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-It says that he was an active member

-of Bethel Chapel, Rhyl.

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-It's the chapel I attended

-when I was growing up...

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-..and the chapel

-where I got married.

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-He was a deacon at the chapel.

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-Oh, dear me.

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-This is where he came when he moved

-from the Lleyn Peninsula.

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-He arrived as a young man...

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-..and he lived until he was 83.

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-I've been searching

-for something like this for years.

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-So it's great.

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-I can't wait to return

-to Aberdaron...

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-..to confirm, if possible...

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-..that he was related,

-as family history suggests...

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-..to Love Pritchard,

-Bardsey's last king.

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-Perthyn has confirmed

-a family story...

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-..that Sian Rees's great-great

-grandfather, William Jones...

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-..came from Aberdaron.

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-Sian's father claims the family

-is related to Bardsey's last king.

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-But who were Williams Jones's

-parents? Where did they live?

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-Were they related

-to the last king of Bardsey?

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-Sian has travelled to Aberdaron

-to unravel the mystery.

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-My father told me

-when I was a young girl...

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-..that there was a link between

-our family and the King of Bardsey.

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-The last King of Bardsey

-was Love Pritchard.

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-Love features frequently in my

-father's family names to this day.

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-I want to know if there is a link

-or was it just a family story?

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-Love Pritchard

-became King of Bardsey in 1911...

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-..the last of three kings

-appointed by the islanders.

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-It wasn't a majestic

-or an official monarchy.

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-It was a practical monarchy to

-control everyday life on the island.

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-After searching for links

-between her family and the King...

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-..it became apparent

-that it wouldn't be easy.

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-Researching a family tree

-in this area is difficult.

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-Families' surnames change

-from one record to the next...

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-..but Sian is determined to

-find out more about Love Pritchard.

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-This is the grave

-of Love Pritchard, King of Bardsey.

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-He's caused me so much trouble

-over the years...

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-..as I've tried to research

-the family's history.

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-He's been buried with his

-two sisters, Catherine and Susan.

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-Despite being buried within earshot

-of the sea in Aberdaron...

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-..it's a shame that he wasn't buried

-on the island where he lived.

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-One of the clues linking

-Sian's family to the King...

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-..is the name Love

-which is featured in both families.

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-Can Dilwyn Williams reveal more

-about the origin of the name?

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-What do you know

-about the name Love?

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-It's hard to know

-how Love Pritchard got his name...

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-..but I know it was a prominent name

-in one local family...

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-..the Madryn family.

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-The name Love in that family...

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-..dates back to the Puritan Era

-of the 17th century.

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-The original name was Lovegod.

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-I've seen references to a boy

-called Lovegod Parry in a will.

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-The Puritans tended to place

-Christian virtues on their children.

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-This boy was named Lovegod...

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-..and during his lifetime,

-his name was shortened to Love.

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-The Madryn family

-was well respected locally.

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-As a mark of respect...

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-..Love Pritchard may well have been

-named after the Madryn family.

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-When the first census

-was taken in 1841...

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-..and the state started

-registering births in 1837...

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-..family names in Wales

-were formalized for the first time.

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-Before that, surnames were merely

-personal traits.

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-It's difficult to research a family

-tree in a rural area such as this.

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-It's easier for people...

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-..who have one family surname

-that has remained for generations.

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-It changes from generation

-to generation in Wales.

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-It's not surprising that Sian

-hit a brick wall with her research.

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-Can she find more information

-on Bardsey Island?

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-OK?

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-I'm really looking forward

-to visiting Bardsey.

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-The island has a magical place

-for the Welsh nation.

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-There's the history of 20,000 saints

-buried there...

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-..and in addition,

-there's my personal connection.

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-OK? Cheerio, Sian. So long.

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-Around 100 people lived here

-during Love Pritchard's time.

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-Researching genealogy here

-should be easy...

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-..but Pritchard's family

-is a perfect example...

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-..of the complications

-that can arise.

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-Love Pritchard

-was born and raised in Ty Pella.

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-His parents

-had many different surnames.

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-On official records...

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-..they appear as Pritchard,

-Richards and Williams.

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-According to legend, they changed

-names to avoid paying taxes.

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-What of Sian's connection

-to the King?

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-After rummaging through the

-archives, she has some information.

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-Perthyn has found William Jones's

-marriage certificate.

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-It reveals his father's name

-as John Prichard.

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-Is there any more information

-about him?

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-Well,

-this is confirmation, finally...

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-..that William Jones

-lived in Bodffordd...

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-..in the parish of Aberdaron.

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-According to this,

-his father was John Prichard.

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-An even more interesting fact...

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-..is that John Prichard...

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-..had a son called Love Prichard.

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-There was a Love in the family...

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-..before the King of Bardsey

-who was born in 1843.

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-I didn't know that previously.

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-That's a huge piece of the jigsaw.

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-As has been the case

-for family tree researchers...

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-..on Bardsey and in Aberdaron...

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-..surname complexities

-have posed problems...

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-..for the Perthyn team too.

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-For Sian, the search continues.

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-Even though

-we couldn't prove conclusively...

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-..that both families were related...

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-..with Love and Prichard common

-during the same time and area...

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-..it is very likely

-that her family legend is true.

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-Sian certainly believes

-that it is true.

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-She visits the King's home

-before leaving the island.

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-Over the past 20 years...

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-..I've tried to confirm

-the family story...

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-..that Love Pritchard

-is a member of my family...

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-..on my father's side.

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-I'm beginning to think...

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-..that I may not be able to confirm

-it with one piece of paper.

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-That cornerstone will prove

-that the link is real.

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-I'll have to accept

-that the enchanted isle...

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-..will hold on to its secrets.

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-In 1925,

-with the islanders ageing...

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-..and a shortage of young men

-to row...

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-..Love Pritchard led everyone

-from Bardsey Island...

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-..to herald the end

-of the island's community.

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-Five months later, he died.

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-He was buried

-overlooking the sea in Aberdaron.

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-A large crowd gathered

-to pay their respects.

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-Love Pritchard,

-the last King of Bardsey...

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-..became part of local folklore.

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-After years of research...

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-..Sian has discovered that William

-Jones's father was John Prichard.

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-The surname complexities has been

-very apparent in her family tree.

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-It's prevented Sian

-from further research.

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-But Perthyn has found William

-Jones's address in Bodffordd.

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-Sian is visiting her old family home

-for the first time.

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-Good morning, how are you? I'm Sian.

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-I'm Mary.

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-I'm Mary.

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-It's nice to meet you.

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-I've been doing some research

-into my family tree.

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-My great-great grandfather,

-William Jones...

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-Well, he was known

-as William Jones.

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-He could have been known

-as William Prichard.

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-He was born and brought up in

-this house before moving to Rhyl...

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-..in the mid-19th century.

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-My family, on my mother's side,

-has lived here for generations.

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-We might be related

-somewhere along the line.

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-That's very interesting.

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-One family story that's bothered me

-for over 20 years...

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-..is the possible connection

-between my family...

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-..and Love Pritchard,

-the King of Bardsey.

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-Love is a prominent name

-in my family.

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-There's a Love

-on my grandmother's side.

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-She had a brother called Love

-who died at an early age.

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-She had a cousin

-called John Love Williams.

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-He lived in Holyhead.

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-Well, I'm lost for words now!

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-My grandmother would always say...

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-..that we were related

-to the King of Bardsey.

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-I don't know...

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-...why she said it

-or why she thought we were related.

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-We had nothing on paper to prove it.

-I don't know how the story existed.

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-It must have been passed down

-through the generations.

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-There must be a connection

-because of this unusual name.

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-I'm really lost for words!

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-Thank you.

0:22:160:22:17

-You're welcome. I'm glad you've

-been able to return to your roots.

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-So am I.

0:22:230:22:24

-I believe the oral tradition...

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-..and stories that are passed down

-through the generations...

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-..are as valid as any document,

-written record or registration.

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-Somewhere, somehow, I believe that

-Love Pritchard is part of my family.

0:22:410:22:46

-Genealogy and tracing family history

-can become an obsession.

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-I never thought

-I'd be one of these people...

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-..who can't stop

-once they'd started.

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-It can be frustrating,

-it can be a pleasure...

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-..it can be perplexing and exciting.

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-I've enjoyed every part of it.

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-I don't think I'll ever give up.

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-There's no such thing...

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-..as a final conclusion

-to solving family mysteries.

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