Fflur ac Eirian Wyn Perthyn


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Fflur ac Eirian Wyn

Bydd Trystan yn cyfarfod y gantores opera Fflur Wyn a'i thad Eirian Wyn, sy'n weinidog gyda'r Bedyddwyr. Trystan meets soprano Fflur Wyn and her father, Baptist minister, Eirian...


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-Hello!

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-I'm in Morriston near Swansea...

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-..to meet minister

-and conjuror Eirian Wyn...

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-..and his daughter,

-opera singer Fflur Wyn.

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-Welcome to Perthyn.

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-I'm the Reverend Eirian Wyn

-and I come from Brynaman.

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-I returned to the village

-25 years ago...

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-..to live in the house

-where I grew up.

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-I'm also a conjuror...

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-..and I'm chaplain

-to Swansea City AFC Academy.

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-Eirian, why did you

-become a conjuror?

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-I'm not sure if I did actually

-decide to become a conjuror.

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-It just seemed to happen.

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-I watched David Nixon on television

-when I was a child.

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-He had a coin in his hand.

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-The camera zoomed in

-really close to his hand.

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-The coin disappeared

-in front of our eyes.

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-I thought, "I want to do that!"

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-In the early 1980s, Desmond Jones,

-who owned a bus company...

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-..asked me to go to Peniel

-instead of him...

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-..to put on a children's show.

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-It went really well.

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-From then on, by word of mouth...

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-..more and more people

-heard about my magic show.

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-It took off from there.

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-How did you learn the art of magic?

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-Take something like this.

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-You pick it up,

-then you go like that...

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-..and you realize it's vanished.

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-Then I remember

-that it's behind your ear.

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-How did you do that?

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-If I find out, I'll let you know.

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-Did you try the magic tricks out

-on Helen and Fflur?

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-Yes, but they were both

-the harshest critics possible.

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-If either of them told me

-something was a good trick...

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-..I'd know

-it was ready for the public.

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-If Helen said,

-"Hmm, that was alright"...

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-..I knew the trick needed more work.

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-I paid big money for one trick.

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-I worked hard on it before

-showing it to Helen and Fflur.

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-I performed the trick for them

-and Fflur was young at the time.

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-I did the trick and it went well.

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-I felt great.

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-Helen was impressed, but Fflur said,

-"Dad, I know how you did it."

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-I thought, "Alright then,

-clever dickie, come here!"

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-I told her to do it herself,

-thinking she'd get it wrong...

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-..but she performed the trick

-perfectly.

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-Even professional conjurors...

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-..need instructions

-to perform this trick...

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-..so I asked her how she'd done it.

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-She explained how she'd done it

-and that was the correct method!

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-She'd worked it out all by herself.

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-Conjurors never reveal the secrets

-of their tricks, do they?

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-No, because we don't know

-how magic works either.

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-Really? Come on!

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-One, two...?

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-One, two...?

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-Three.

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-Count them again. One, two.

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-One, two.

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-Blow.

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-How many were there?

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-How many were there?

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-Two.

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-That's right.

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-You can't count! Blow again.

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-How many is that?

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-Where did they go?

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-As a child, I went to chapel

-three times every Sunday.

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-I decided

-that I wanted to enter the ministry.

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-I went to college in Bangor...

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-..and I'm now minister

-at Seion Newydd Chapel, Morriston.

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-Christianity is important to me

-and I continue to grow in the faith.

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-I can't say I ever heard a voice

-calling me to the faith...

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-..or to become a minister...

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-..but I have grown in the faith.

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-I think that's important.

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-Children get used to going to chapel

-with their parents...

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-..and they then grow in the faith.

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-But parents don't bring

-their children to Sunday school...

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-..or to chapel services any more.

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-Children don't get used to coming

-to chapel, more's the pity.

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-What do you enjoy most

-about the work?

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-Everything, to be honest.

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-I love delivering sermons...

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-..and it's a brilliant place

-for doing that.

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-It's also a great place to sing,

-as Fflur has done many times.

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-She says the acoustic is excellent.

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-I love meeting people and hosting

-events, especially for children.

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-I'm a firm believer in opening the

-doors of God's house to atheists...

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-..or to those

-who haven't heard about Jesus.

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-Did Fflur come here

-to listen to you preach?

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-Fflur first came to this chapel...

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-..when she was around two weeks old.

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-How does Eirian Wyn

-combine the sermons and the magic?

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-I'm utterly convinced that my talent

-for magic is God-given.

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-I'll tell you why.

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-If it weren't for magic,

-I'd be blind.

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-This is an interesting story.

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-I was putting on a show

-at a boy's birthday party...

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-..when I was 29 or 30 years old.

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-After the party, I asked his mother

-for some painkillers...

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-..because I had a headache.

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-She told me to look at a light bulb

-and tell her what I could see.

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-I told her I could see

-a rainbow around the bulb.

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-She replied, "I'm an optometrist.

-I think you have glaucoma."

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-Older people usually have glaucoma.

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-She told me to see a specialist

-and I did just that.

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-I saw a specialist at Glangwili.

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-He put drops in my eyes

-and blew air into them.

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-The drops went in and he measured

-the pressure in the eye.

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-He turned to me and said,

-"She was right."

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-"You're a lucky man.

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-"It's so high, you could have

-gone totally blind...

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-"..in a matter of days or weeks."

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-God gave me the gift of magic...

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-..to make sure

-I went to Norma Davies' house...

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-..and discover that I had glaucoma.

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-If I weren't a conjuror,

-I'd be blind.

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-I wouldn't have known

-I had glaucoma.

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-I've seen a specialist

-every six months since I was 30.

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-And I'm 35 now!

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-No, I'm 62.

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-After the summer,

-I'll start my fourth season...

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-..as chaplain

-to Swansea City AFC Academy.

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-I take care of the boys

-aged from 21 down to around ten.

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-I'm also here for the coaches

-and for some of the parents.

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-I enjoy being a chaplain and seeing

-the boys, as time passes...

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-..responding more

-to what I have to say.

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-I also see them grow

-from boys to men.

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-I'm not here to shove Christianity

-down these youngsters' throats.

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-If the boys or the coaches want to

-talk about Christianity, I'm here.

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-As it happens, a few of the boys

-are young Christians.

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-I chat to them from time to time

-and they also come to me.

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-We talk about faith in general

-and Christianity in particular.

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-This job clearly gives you

-great pleasure and enjoyment.

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-Yes, it's an unbelievable pleasure.

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-Luckily, I like football.

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-No, I actually love football.

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-I love this club.

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-The badge means almost as much

-as my faith to me.

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-Not quite as much, but nearly!

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-Over the years, you've got to know

-many of the first team players.

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-Yes.

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-To be honest,

-and I won't name names...

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-..but I'm still in touch

-with many of them.

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-If something happens or when

-congratulations are in order...

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-..I get in touch with them

-and some of them text me too.

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-I've heard an interesting story that

-one player named his son after you.

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-No, it wasn't a player.

-It was a player's sister.

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-Angel Rangel.

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-When Roberto played for us, he knew

-I spoke a little bit of Spanish.

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-I practised my Spanish on him.

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-When he returned here as manager...

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-..he brought Spaniards and Catalans

-over to play for Swansea.

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-I became good friends with Angel...

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-..and his parents, sister

-and brother-in-law.

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-A year to 18 months

-after he came here...

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-..I received a text message

-from Angel's brother-in-law...

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-..out in Catalonia.

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-He told me that Angel's sister,

-Serena, had given birth to a boy...

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-..and they'd named him...

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-..Eirian Cruz Rangel.

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-They named him after me.

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-Join me after the break,

-when I meet Fflur in London...

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-..to talk about

-her work, her life...

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-..and her special relationship

-with her father.

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-Welcome back.

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-I've already met Eirian Wyn.

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-Now, I'm in London

-to meet Fflur, his daughter.

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-She's an opera singer.

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-I've lived in London for 15 years.

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-I've been singing

-since the age of three...

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-..and I've been a professional

-opera singer for 15 years.

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-I've sung the music of Bach, Handel,

-Mozart and even some modern music.

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-Fflur, what sparked

-your interest in singing?

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-I don't think I had much choice!

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-Mam is a musician. She was a singer.

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-I was surrounded by music

-from the day I was born.

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-I sang at my father's chapel...

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-..and I sang in school concerts.

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-I never chose to sing.

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-It's something I've always done

-and something I really enjoy.

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-Opera hasn't always been

-your main passion.

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-No, I started by singing folk songs

-and cerdd dant in eisteddfodau.

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-I sang in my first musical

-when I was 14 years old...

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-..and I fell head over heels in love

-with the world of the musicals.

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-It was my ambition for many years...

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-..to sing in musicals like Les Mis,

-Phantom or Miss Saigon.

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-As I got older, my voice changed...

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-..and took on

-a more classical quality.

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-That's when

-realization dawned...

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-..that I didn't have the right voice

-for a career in the West End.

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-I now adore being an opera singer

-and going to see the musicals.

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-I think I have

-the best of both worlds.

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-You've been

-on a very successful journey.

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-What are the highlights, so far?

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-Singing in the Royal Albert Hall

-is definitely one of my highlights.

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-I was 18 at the time and I performed

-in the 1,000 Voices concert.

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-My other highlights include

-singing at La Monnaie in Brussels...

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-..one of the world's most famous

-opera houses and opera companies...

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-..and performing

-in the Concertgebouw, Amsterdam.

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-That was

-a truly thrilling experience.

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-It's a concert hall I've heard about

-since I was a child...

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-..but I never imagined

-I'd sing there.

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-Every now and then, I pinch myself

-when I realize I do this as a job!

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-It's wonderful.

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-What are you doing at the moment?

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-I've just finished

-a series of concerts...

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-..with the OAE, The Orchestra

-Of The Age Of Enlightenment.

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-We performed St Matthew Passion...

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-..five times in six days

-in three countries.

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-Next, I'll go to Italy to perform

-Beethoven's Ninth Symphony.

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-The next big thing

-I'm currently preparing for...

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-..is to sing the lead role

-in Lakme by Delibes...

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-..for Opera Holland Park in London.

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-That's my next major job.

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-That's my next major job.

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-Brilliant.

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-I'm looking forward to it

-but I'm nervous too.

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-Do you see yourself

-settling here, in London?

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-Yes, for a while.

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-I've settled down here now.

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-I'd love to move back

-to Wales one day...

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-..but it makes no difference where

-you are, as long as you're happy.

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-I could live halfway across

-the world as long as I was happy.

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-You're really close to your parents,

-especially your father.

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-Yes, I'm really close to him

-and I know I'm very lucky.

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-Many of my friends

-aren't that close to their parents.

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-They don't count them as friends.

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-I count my parents as two friends.

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-They've always raised me

-to be a mature individual.

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-They've always respected me,

-which means I respect them too.

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-I think that's why we're so close.

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-Do you miss

-your father's magic tricks?

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-No, I don't miss them!

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-Wherever we went

-when I was a child...

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-..if no magic was involved,

-there was something wrong.

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-All my friends

-asked him to do tricks.

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-I'd think, "Here we go again!"

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-He hasn't done much for a while...

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-..but, to be fair,

-he's quite good at it.

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-Don't tell him I said so!

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-Don't tell him I said so!

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-Your father is full of tricks.

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-Dresses and costumes are a big part

-of the life of an opera singer.

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-Was that part of the attraction

-of being an opera singer?

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-I should say no,

-but I'm sure it did attract me.

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-I've loved dresses

-and beautiful costumes for years...

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-..and choosing what to wear is an

-enjoyable part of giving concerts.

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-How many dresses like the ones we

-see here are there in your wardrobe?

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-Around 40, at the moment.

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-There may be one or two more

-at my parents' house.

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-Their value varies, of course...

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-..but there's great detail

-in some of them.

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-Yes. I bought this one for a concert

-at the National Eisteddfod.

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-I was singing Faure's Requiem

-and a piece by Poulenc.

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-I was sharing the stage

-with two men in black...

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-..so I wanted a dress

-which would make me stand out.

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-I found this dress

-in a shop called Lara in London.

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-I tried it on, it fitted me

-and I knew it was the one.

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-What's the story behind this one?

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-Well, it cost a fortune!

-I won't say how much.

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-I was invited to sing

-in a concert in Qatar...

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-..for the Emir,

-who is ostensibly the king of Qatar.

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-I had this made for me.

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-As you can see,

-it's quite a small dress...

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-..and it fits me like a glove.

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-As I stepped onto the stage, I saw

-two soldiers holding AK-47 rifles...

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-..ready to give me a body search

-to make sure I wasn't armed.

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-Where did they think

-I'd conceal a weapon under it?!

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-The dress on the end

-is a very striking colour.

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-Yes, and it's one of my favourites.

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-Huw Fash made this dress for me.

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-The famous Huw Fash.

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-The first time

-I went to him for a fitting...

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-..he'd created a dress for me

-from toile.

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-I hadn't sent him my measurements.

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-He'd made it on the off chance

-to see what would it be like.

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-I tried it on

-and it fitted me perfectly.

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-How many venues has this seen?

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-How many venues has this seen?

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-Only one.

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-It's just a baby.

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-I sound really sad

-calling a dress a baby!

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-This is a new dress.

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-The others are flung in a suitcase

-to travel the world...

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-..but I keep a few dresses

-for big concerts.

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-Special ones.

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-I feel very lucky

-to have my parents.

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-They gave me an amazing childhood.

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-They're not only good parents

-but they're also good friends.

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-Dad and I are really close

-and we've travelled abroad together.

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-It's great when he comes here

-to stay with me.

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-Eirian, how often

-do you visit Fflur here in London?

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-Um, well...

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-As often as I can.

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-About four times a year.

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-About four times a year.

-

-Something like that.

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-But only for a day or two.

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-Eirian, let's turn back the clock...

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-..to the years

-when Fflur competed in eisteddfodau.

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-Did you ever think

-she'd become an opera singer?

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-I knew she'd be a performer,

-of that I had no doubt.

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-I thought she'd go in the direction

-of the West End, that type of thing.

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-Once she started at the Academy,

-I noticed her voice changing.

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-She still competed

-in eisteddfodau...

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-..but she sang more classical songs.

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-I could see her changing...

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-..so it didn't surprise me...

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-..when she decided

-to become an opera singer.

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-Fflur, how do you feel when you

-listen to your father's sermons?

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-I sometimes struggle

-to follow sermons.

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-I was brought up in the chapel

-and I went to Sunday school...

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-..but I still struggle.

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-I think it's a common problem.

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-But when Dad's giving the sermon,

-I can follow every word of it.

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-Eirian and Fflur,

-you're clearly very close.

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-What's the secret

-behind creating a close bond...

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-..between father and daughter?

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-Being a daughter

-who can put up with a lot!

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-She got that in just before me!

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-You were quick off the mark, Fflur!

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-One word.

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-Just one word.

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-Love.

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-It's as simple as that.

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-If you love someone,

-the relationship is strong.

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-We argue a lot, mind you.

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-We argue a lot, mind you.

-

-Yes, we do fall out.

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-We're too similar.

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-We're too similar.

-

-Yes, far too similar.

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-But five minutes after the argument,

-it's as if nothing had happened.

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-Yes, that's true,

-when we do fall out.

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-We never have huge arguments anyway.

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-Don't we?

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-I'm not so sure!

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-As you said, it's all blown over

-five minutes later.

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-It's five minutes later with me,

-and three days later with her!

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-Eirian and Fflur,

-thank you for talking to me.

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-You're welcome.

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-You're welcome.

-

-Thank you very much.

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Bydd Trystan yn cyfarfod y gantores opera Fflur Wyn a'i thad Eirian Wyn, sy'n weinidog gyda'r Bedyddwyr. Trystan meets soprano Fflur Wyn and her father, Baptist minister, Eirian Wyn.