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-Hello! | 0:00:22 | 0:00:23 | |
-I'm in Morriston near Swansea... | 0:00:24 | 0:00:26 | |
-..to meet minister -and conjuror Eirian Wyn... | 0:00:26 | 0:00:30 | |
-..and his daughter, -opera singer Fflur Wyn. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:34 | |
-Welcome to Perthyn. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:36 | |
-I'm the Reverend Eirian Wyn -and I come from Brynaman. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:44 | |
-I returned to the village -25 years ago... | 0:00:44 | 0:00:48 | |
-..to live in the house -where I grew up. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:51 | |
-I'm also a conjuror... | 0:00:54 | 0:00:56 | |
-..and I'm chaplain -to Swansea City AFC Academy. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:04 | |
-Eirian, why did you -become a conjuror? | 0:01:11 | 0:01:14 | |
-I'm not sure if I did actually -decide to become a conjuror. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:18 | |
-It just seemed to happen. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:20 | |
-I watched David Nixon on television -when I was a child. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:25 | |
-He had a coin in his hand. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:28 | |
-The camera zoomed in -really close to his hand. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:33 | |
-The coin disappeared -in front of our eyes. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:36 | |
-I thought, "I want to do that!" | 0:01:36 | 0:01:38 | |
-In the early 1980s, Desmond Jones, -who owned a bus company... | 0:01:49 | 0:01:54 | |
-..asked me to go to Peniel -instead of him... | 0:01:54 | 0:01:58 | |
-..to put on a children's show. | 0:01:58 | 0:02:00 | |
-It went really well. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:02 | |
-From then on, by word of mouth... | 0:02:03 | 0:02:05 | |
-..more and more people -heard about my magic show. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:09 | |
-It took off from there. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:12 | |
-How did you learn the art of magic? | 0:02:15 | 0:02:18 | |
-Take something like this. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:21 | |
-You pick it up, -then you go like that... | 0:02:22 | 0:02:25 | |
-..and you realize it's vanished. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:28 | |
-Then I remember -that it's behind your ear. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:32 | |
-How did you do that? | 0:02:32 | 0:02:34 | |
-If I find out, I'll let you know. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:36 | |
-Did you try the magic tricks out -on Helen and Fflur? | 0:02:46 | 0:02:51 | |
-Yes, but they were both -the harshest critics possible. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:57 | |
-If either of them told me -something was a good trick... | 0:02:57 | 0:03:01 | |
-..I'd know -it was ready for the public. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:04 | |
-If Helen said, -"Hmm, that was alright"... | 0:03:04 | 0:03:07 | |
-..I knew the trick needed more work. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:10 | |
-I paid big money for one trick. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:13 | |
-I worked hard on it before -showing it to Helen and Fflur. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:18 | |
-I performed the trick for them -and Fflur was young at the time. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:23 | |
-I did the trick and it went well. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:26 | |
-I felt great. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:27 | |
-Helen was impressed, but Fflur said, -"Dad, I know how you did it." | 0:03:28 | 0:03:32 | |
-I thought, "Alright then, -clever dickie, come here!" | 0:03:33 | 0:03:36 | |
-I told her to do it herself, -thinking she'd get it wrong... | 0:03:37 | 0:03:41 | |
-..but she performed the trick -perfectly. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:44 | |
-Even professional conjurors... | 0:03:44 | 0:03:47 | |
-..need instructions -to perform this trick... | 0:03:47 | 0:03:50 | |
-..so I asked her how she'd done it. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:54 | |
-She explained how she'd done it -and that was the correct method! | 0:03:54 | 0:03:59 | |
-She'd worked it out all by herself. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:02 | |
-Conjurors never reveal the secrets -of their tricks, do they? | 0:04:03 | 0:04:07 | |
-No, because we don't know -how magic works either. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:11 | |
-Really? Come on! | 0:04:11 | 0:04:13 | |
-One, two...? | 0:04:14 | 0:04:15 | |
-One, two...? - -Three. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:17 | |
-Count them again. One, two. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:19 | |
-One, two. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:21 | |
-Blow. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:22 | |
-How many were there? | 0:04:23 | 0:04:24 | |
-How many were there? - -Two. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:25 | |
-That's right. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:27 | |
-You can't count! Blow again. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:29 | |
-How many is that? | 0:04:31 | 0:04:32 | |
-Where did they go? | 0:04:39 | 0:04:40 | |
-As a child, I went to chapel -three times every Sunday. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:48 | |
-I decided -that I wanted to enter the ministry. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:56 | |
-I went to college in Bangor... | 0:04:58 | 0:05:00 | |
-..and I'm now minister -at Seion Newydd Chapel, Morriston. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:05 | |
-Christianity is important to me -and I continue to grow in the faith. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:10 | |
-I can't say I ever heard a voice -calling me to the faith... | 0:05:16 | 0:05:21 | |
-..or to become a minister... | 0:05:21 | 0:05:23 | |
-..but I have grown in the faith. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:26 | |
-I think that's important. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:28 | |
-Children get used to going to chapel -with their parents... | 0:05:29 | 0:05:33 | |
-..and they then grow in the faith. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:36 | |
-But parents don't bring -their children to Sunday school... | 0:05:36 | 0:05:41 | |
-..or to chapel services any more. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:43 | |
-Children don't get used to coming -to chapel, more's the pity. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:49 | |
-What do you enjoy most -about the work? | 0:05:49 | 0:05:51 | |
-Everything, to be honest. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:54 | |
-I love delivering sermons... | 0:05:54 | 0:05:56 | |
-..and it's a brilliant place -for doing that. | 0:05:56 | 0:06:00 | |
-It's also a great place to sing, -as Fflur has done many times. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:05 | |
-She says the acoustic is excellent. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:08 | |
-I love meeting people and hosting -events, especially for children. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:15 | |
-I'm a firm believer in opening the -doors of God's house to atheists... | 0:06:16 | 0:06:21 | |
-..or to those -who haven't heard about Jesus. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:25 | |
-Did Fflur come here -to listen to you preach? | 0:06:25 | 0:06:29 | |
-Fflur first came to this chapel... | 0:06:29 | 0:06:33 | |
-..when she was around two weeks old. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:37 | |
-How does Eirian Wyn -combine the sermons and the magic? | 0:06:39 | 0:06:44 | |
-I'm utterly convinced that my talent -for magic is God-given. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:50 | |
-I'll tell you why. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:52 | |
-If it weren't for magic, -I'd be blind. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:54 | |
-This is an interesting story. | 0:06:55 | 0:06:57 | |
-I was putting on a show -at a boy's birthday party... | 0:06:57 | 0:07:01 | |
-..when I was 29 or 30 years old. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:04 | |
-After the party, I asked his mother -for some painkillers... | 0:07:05 | 0:07:10 | |
-..because I had a headache. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:12 | |
-She told me to look at a light bulb -and tell her what I could see. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:17 | |
-I told her I could see -a rainbow around the bulb. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:21 | |
-She replied, "I'm an optometrist. -I think you have glaucoma." | 0:07:21 | 0:07:25 | |
-Older people usually have glaucoma. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:28 | |
-She told me to see a specialist -and I did just that. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:32 | |
-I saw a specialist at Glangwili. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:34 | |
-He put drops in my eyes -and blew air into them. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:38 | |
-The drops went in and he measured -the pressure in the eye. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:42 | |
-He turned to me and said, -"She was right." | 0:07:42 | 0:07:45 | |
-"You're a lucky man. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:47 | |
-"It's so high, you could have -gone totally blind... | 0:07:48 | 0:07:51 | |
-"..in a matter of days or weeks." | 0:07:52 | 0:07:54 | |
-God gave me the gift of magic... | 0:07:54 | 0:07:56 | |
-..to make sure -I went to Norma Davies' house... | 0:07:56 | 0:08:00 | |
-..and discover that I had glaucoma. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:02 | |
-If I weren't a conjuror, -I'd be blind. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:05 | |
-I wouldn't have known -I had glaucoma. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:08 | |
-I've seen a specialist -every six months since I was 30. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:12 | |
-And I'm 35 now! | 0:08:12 | 0:08:15 | |
-No, I'm 62. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:18 | |
-After the summer, -I'll start my fourth season... | 0:08:21 | 0:08:26 | |
-..as chaplain -to Swansea City AFC Academy. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:31 | |
-I take care of the boys -aged from 21 down to around ten. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:35 | |
-I'm also here for the coaches -and for some of the parents. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:40 | |
-I enjoy being a chaplain and seeing -the boys, as time passes... | 0:08:42 | 0:08:47 | |
-..responding more -to what I have to say. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:51 | |
-I also see them grow -from boys to men. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:55 | |
-I'm not here to shove Christianity -down these youngsters' throats. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:05 | |
-If the boys or the coaches want to -talk about Christianity, I'm here. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:11 | |
-As it happens, a few of the boys -are young Christians. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:15 | |
-I chat to them from time to time -and they also come to me. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:20 | |
-We talk about faith in general -and Christianity in particular. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:25 | |
-This job clearly gives you -great pleasure and enjoyment. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:31 | |
-Yes, it's an unbelievable pleasure. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:35 | |
-Luckily, I like football. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:37 | |
-No, I actually love football. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:40 | |
-I love this club. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:42 | |
-The badge means almost as much -as my faith to me. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:48 | |
-Not quite as much, but nearly! | 0:09:48 | 0:09:51 | |
-Over the years, you've got to know -many of the first team players. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:57 | |
-Yes. | 0:09:57 | 0:09:58 | |
-To be honest, -and I won't name names... | 0:09:59 | 0:10:03 | |
-..but I'm still in touch -with many of them. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:06 | |
-If something happens or when -congratulations are in order... | 0:10:06 | 0:10:10 | |
-..I get in touch with them -and some of them text me too. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:14 | |
-I've heard an interesting story that -one player named his son after you. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:19 | |
-No, it wasn't a player. -It was a player's sister. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:23 | |
-Angel Rangel. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:26 | |
-When Roberto played for us, he knew -I spoke a little bit of Spanish. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:33 | |
-I practised my Spanish on him. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:35 | |
-When he returned here as manager... | 0:10:36 | 0:10:38 | |
-..he brought Spaniards and Catalans -over to play for Swansea. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:43 | |
-I became good friends with Angel... | 0:10:43 | 0:10:46 | |
-..and his parents, sister -and brother-in-law. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:51 | |
-A year to 18 months -after he came here... | 0:10:51 | 0:10:57 | |
-..I received a text message -from Angel's brother-in-law... | 0:10:57 | 0:11:02 | |
-..out in Catalonia. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:04 | |
-He told me that Angel's sister, -Serena, had given birth to a boy... | 0:11:04 | 0:11:08 | |
-..and they'd named him... | 0:11:09 | 0:11:10 | |
-..Eirian Cruz Rangel. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:14 | |
-They named him after me. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:16 | |
-Join me after the break, -when I meet Fflur in London... | 0:11:32 | 0:11:36 | |
-..to talk about -her work, her life... | 0:11:36 | 0:11:39 | |
-..and her special relationship -with her father. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:43 | |
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-Welcome back. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:00 | |
-I've already met Eirian Wyn. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:02 | |
-Now, I'm in London -to meet Fflur, his daughter. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:05 | |
-She's an opera singer. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:07 | |
-I've lived in London for 15 years. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:25 | |
-I've been singing -since the age of three... | 0:12:25 | 0:12:28 | |
-..and I've been a professional -opera singer for 15 years. | 0:12:28 | 0:12:32 | |
-I've sung the music of Bach, Handel, -Mozart and even some modern music. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:38 | |
-Fflur, what sparked -your interest in singing? | 0:12:38 | 0:12:42 | |
-I don't think I had much choice! | 0:12:43 | 0:12:45 | |
-Mam is a musician. She was a singer. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:48 | |
-I was surrounded by music -from the day I was born. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:53 | |
-I sang at my father's chapel... | 0:12:54 | 0:12:56 | |
-..and I sang in school concerts. | 0:12:57 | 0:12:59 | |
-I never chose to sing. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:02 | |
-It's something I've always done -and something I really enjoy. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:06 | |
-Opera hasn't always been -your main passion. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:12 | |
-No, I started by singing folk songs -and cerdd dant in eisteddfodau. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:17 | |
-I sang in my first musical -when I was 14 years old... | 0:13:18 | 0:13:21 | |
-..and I fell head over heels in love -with the world of the musicals. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:26 | |
-It was my ambition for many years... | 0:13:26 | 0:13:29 | |
-..to sing in musicals like Les Mis, -Phantom or Miss Saigon. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:34 | |
-As I got older, my voice changed... | 0:13:35 | 0:13:38 | |
-..and took on -a more classical quality. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:41 | |
-That's when -realization dawned... | 0:13:42 | 0:13:45 | |
-..that I didn't have the right voice -for a career in the West End. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:49 | |
-I now adore being an opera singer -and going to see the musicals. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:54 | |
-I think I have -the best of both worlds. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:57 | |
-You've been -on a very successful journey. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:12 | |
-What are the highlights, so far? | 0:14:12 | 0:14:15 | |
-Singing in the Royal Albert Hall -is definitely one of my highlights. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:21 | |
-I was 18 at the time and I performed -in the 1,000 Voices concert. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:27 | |
-My other highlights include -singing at La Monnaie in Brussels... | 0:14:27 | 0:14:32 | |
-..one of the world's most famous -opera houses and opera companies... | 0:14:32 | 0:14:37 | |
-..and performing -in the Concertgebouw, Amsterdam. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:40 | |
-That was -a truly thrilling experience. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:44 | |
-It's a concert hall I've heard about -since I was a child... | 0:14:44 | 0:14:49 | |
-..but I never imagined -I'd sing there. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:52 | |
-Every now and then, I pinch myself -when I realize I do this as a job! | 0:14:52 | 0:14:58 | |
-It's wonderful. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:00 | |
-What are you doing at the moment? | 0:15:00 | 0:15:02 | |
-I've just finished -a series of concerts... | 0:15:03 | 0:15:06 | |
-..with the OAE, The Orchestra -Of The Age Of Enlightenment. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:10 | |
-We performed St Matthew Passion... | 0:15:10 | 0:15:13 | |
-..five times in six days -in three countries. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:17 | |
-Next, I'll go to Italy to perform -Beethoven's Ninth Symphony. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:22 | |
-The next big thing -I'm currently preparing for... | 0:15:22 | 0:15:28 | |
-..is to sing the lead role -in Lakme by Delibes... | 0:15:28 | 0:15:32 | |
-..for Opera Holland Park in London. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:35 | |
-That's my next major job. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:36 | |
-That's my next major job. - -Brilliant. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:38 | |
-I'm looking forward to it -but I'm nervous too. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:41 | |
-Do you see yourself -settling here, in London? | 0:15:46 | 0:15:52 | |
-Yes, for a while. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:54 | |
-I've settled down here now. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:57 | |
-I'd love to move back -to Wales one day... | 0:15:58 | 0:16:01 | |
-..but it makes no difference where -you are, as long as you're happy. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:06 | |
-I could live halfway across -the world as long as I was happy. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:11 | |
-You're really close to your parents, -especially your father. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:19 | |
-Yes, I'm really close to him -and I know I'm very lucky. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:23 | |
-Many of my friends -aren't that close to their parents. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:27 | |
-They don't count them as friends. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:30 | |
-I count my parents as two friends. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:32 | |
-They've always raised me -to be a mature individual. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:37 | |
-They've always respected me, -which means I respect them too. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:43 | |
-I think that's why we're so close. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:46 | |
-Do you miss -your father's magic tricks? | 0:16:46 | 0:16:50 | |
-No, I don't miss them! | 0:16:50 | 0:16:52 | |
-Wherever we went -when I was a child... | 0:16:52 | 0:16:55 | |
-..if no magic was involved, -there was something wrong. | 0:16:56 | 0:16:59 | |
-All my friends -asked him to do tricks. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:02 | |
-I'd think, "Here we go again!" | 0:17:03 | 0:17:05 | |
-He hasn't done much for a while... | 0:17:05 | 0:17:08 | |
-..but, to be fair, -he's quite good at it. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:11 | |
-Don't tell him I said so! | 0:17:12 | 0:17:13 | |
-Don't tell him I said so! - -Your father is full of tricks. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:15 | |
-Dresses and costumes are a big part -of the life of an opera singer. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:35 | |
-Was that part of the attraction -of being an opera singer? | 0:17:35 | 0:17:39 | |
-I should say no, -but I'm sure it did attract me. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:44 | |
-I've loved dresses -and beautiful costumes for years... | 0:17:44 | 0:17:48 | |
-..and choosing what to wear is an -enjoyable part of giving concerts. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:54 | |
-How many dresses like the ones we -see here are there in your wardrobe? | 0:17:55 | 0:18:00 | |
-Around 40, at the moment. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:04 | |
-There may be one or two more -at my parents' house. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:08 | |
-Their value varies, of course... | 0:18:08 | 0:18:11 | |
-..but there's great detail -in some of them. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:15 | |
-Yes. I bought this one for a concert -at the National Eisteddfod. | 0:18:15 | 0:18:20 | |
-I was singing Faure's Requiem -and a piece by Poulenc. | 0:18:20 | 0:18:24 | |
-I was sharing the stage -with two men in black... | 0:18:25 | 0:18:29 | |
-..so I wanted a dress -which would make me stand out. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:33 | |
-I found this dress -in a shop called Lara in London. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:36 | |
-I tried it on, it fitted me -and I knew it was the one. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:40 | |
-What's the story behind this one? | 0:18:41 | 0:18:43 | |
-Well, it cost a fortune! -I won't say how much. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:47 | |
-I was invited to sing -in a concert in Qatar... | 0:18:47 | 0:18:52 | |
-..for the Emir, -who is ostensibly the king of Qatar. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:56 | |
-I had this made for me. | 0:18:56 | 0:18:59 | |
-As you can see, -it's quite a small dress... | 0:19:00 | 0:19:03 | |
-..and it fits me like a glove. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:06 | |
-As I stepped onto the stage, I saw -two soldiers holding AK-47 rifles... | 0:19:07 | 0:19:12 | |
-..ready to give me a body search -to make sure I wasn't armed. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:17 | |
-Where did they think -I'd conceal a weapon under it?! | 0:19:17 | 0:19:21 | |
-The dress on the end -is a very striking colour. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:25 | |
-Yes, and it's one of my favourites. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:28 | |
-Huw Fash made this dress for me. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:32 | |
-The famous Huw Fash. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:35 | |
-The first time -I went to him for a fitting... | 0:19:35 | 0:19:38 | |
-..he'd created a dress for me -from toile. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:42 | |
-I hadn't sent him my measurements. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:45 | |
-He'd made it on the off chance -to see what would it be like. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:49 | |
-I tried it on -and it fitted me perfectly. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:52 | |
-How many venues has this seen? | 0:19:52 | 0:19:54 | |
-How many venues has this seen? - -Only one. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:55 | |
-It's just a baby. | 0:19:55 | 0:19:57 | |
-I sound really sad -calling a dress a baby! | 0:19:57 | 0:20:00 | |
-This is a new dress. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:02 | |
-The others are flung in a suitcase -to travel the world... | 0:20:02 | 0:20:06 | |
-..but I keep a few dresses -for big concerts. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:09 | |
-Special ones. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:11 | |
-I feel very lucky -to have my parents. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:19 | |
-They gave me an amazing childhood. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:22 | |
-They're not only good parents -but they're also good friends. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:29 | |
-Dad and I are really close -and we've travelled abroad together. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:34 | |
-It's great when he comes here -to stay with me. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:37 | |
-Eirian, how often -do you visit Fflur here in London? | 0:20:39 | 0:20:43 | |
-Um, well... | 0:20:43 | 0:20:45 | |
-As often as I can. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:48 | |
-About four times a year. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:52 | |
-About four times a year. - -Something like that. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:53 | |
-But only for a day or two. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:56 | |
-Eirian, let's turn back the clock... | 0:20:57 | 0:20:59 | |
-..to the years -when Fflur competed in eisteddfodau. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:03 | |
-Did you ever think -she'd become an opera singer? | 0:21:03 | 0:21:07 | |
-I knew she'd be a performer, -of that I had no doubt. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:12 | |
-I thought she'd go in the direction -of the West End, that type of thing. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:20 | |
-Once she started at the Academy, -I noticed her voice changing. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:26 | |
-She still competed -in eisteddfodau... | 0:21:26 | 0:21:30 | |
-..but she sang more classical songs. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:33 | |
-I could see her changing... | 0:21:34 | 0:21:37 | |
-..so it didn't surprise me... | 0:21:37 | 0:21:39 | |
-..when she decided -to become an opera singer. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:44 | |
-Fflur, how do you feel when you -listen to your father's sermons? | 0:21:44 | 0:21:48 | |
-I sometimes struggle -to follow sermons. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:52 | |
-I was brought up in the chapel -and I went to Sunday school... | 0:21:52 | 0:21:56 | |
-..but I still struggle. | 0:21:57 | 0:21:58 | |
-I think it's a common problem. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:00 | |
-But when Dad's giving the sermon, -I can follow every word of it. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:05 | |
-Eirian and Fflur, -you're clearly very close. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:09 | |
-What's the secret -behind creating a close bond... | 0:22:10 | 0:22:13 | |
-..between father and daughter? | 0:22:14 | 0:22:16 | |
-Being a daughter -who can put up with a lot! | 0:22:17 | 0:22:20 | |
-She got that in just before me! | 0:22:21 | 0:22:23 | |
-You were quick off the mark, Fflur! | 0:22:24 | 0:22:26 | |
-One word. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:29 | |
-Just one word. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:31 | |
-Love. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:32 | |
-It's as simple as that. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:34 | |
-If you love someone, -the relationship is strong. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:38 | |
-We argue a lot, mind you. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:40 | |
-We argue a lot, mind you. - -Yes, we do fall out. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:41 | |
-We're too similar. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:43 | |
-We're too similar. - -Yes, far too similar. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:44 | |
-But five minutes after the argument, -it's as if nothing had happened. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:51 | |
-Yes, that's true, -when we do fall out. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:53 | |
-We never have huge arguments anyway. | 0:22:54 | 0:22:56 | |
-Don't we? | 0:22:57 | 0:22:58 | |
-I'm not so sure! | 0:22:59 | 0:23:01 | |
-As you said, it's all blown over -five minutes later. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:05 | |
-It's five minutes later with me, -and three days later with her! | 0:23:05 | 0:23:09 | |
-Eirian and Fflur, -thank you for talking to me. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:13 | |
-You're welcome. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:14 | |
-You're welcome. - -Thank you very much. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:16 | |
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