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-I'm Trystan Ellis-Morris.

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-Today, I've come to Denbigh

-to meet two very special sisters.

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-Welcome to Perthyn.

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-Angharad and Megan Phillips

-are twins...

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-..and they've made a name for

-themselves as table tennis players.

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-I'm Angharad.

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-I'm Angharad.

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-And I'm Megan.

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-We're both 21 years old, but I'm

-older than Angharad by one minute.

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-We got a table tennis table as a

-Christmas present when we were ten.

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-We now play for Wales.

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-We represented our country in the

-2010 Commonwealth Games in India...

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-..and in the

-2014 Commonwealth Games in Glasgow.

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-Angharad and Megan,

-you're university students.

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-Where do you study?

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-We're in our first year at Durham

-studying Sociology.

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-Do you live together?

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-We live in the same college, but

-there are 200 people in one college.

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-We see each other a lot...

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-..but it's not as if

-we live in a house together.

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-How often do you see each other?

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-We're doing the same course, so we

-see each other at every lecture...

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-..but we have a different group

-of friends and that's a good thing.

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-It's nice

-to spend a bit of time apart.

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-How much training do you do

-for your table tennis?

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-Before we went to university,

-we played all the time.

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-We played twice a day

-and we went to the gym too.

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-Now that we're studying too,

-we try to train whenever we can.

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-What sort of thing do you do

-in training?

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-We usually train at the table,

-so we work on different shots.

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-We also go to the gym

-to work on our fitness...

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-..and on our strength.

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-How popular is table tennis?

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-Not many Welsh people play...

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-..but table tennis is the second

-most popular sport in the world...

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-..because so many Asians play it.

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-Hopefully, a lot more British people

-will play one day.

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-How exactly do the rankings work?

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-It depends who you beat

-in competitions.

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-The points you gain depend

-on your opponent's world ranking.

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-At the moment, Megan is ranked

-slightly higher than me...

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-..and that's no fun at all!

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-I can work on that.

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-What are your current rankings?

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-I'm ranked number three in Wales

-and Angharad is number four. Sorry!

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-Ooh!

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-I'm not sure

-what my world ranking is...

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-..but it's around 400 or 500.

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-Megan is a minute older than me,

-but I don't see her as a big sister.

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-I don't let her boss me around.

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-I see her more as a friend.

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-I like spending time with Megan

-because she's funny...

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-..and she's kind, most of the time!

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-Megan, I'm sure you and Angharad

-are always interviewed as a pair.

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-Is it sometimes nice to find some

-peace and quiet in your bedroom?

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-Yes, it's nice to find some peace.

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-We do a lot together, but I do enjoy

-being alone sometimes.

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-Tell me about your hobbies.

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-What do you enjoy doing beside

-studying and playing table tennis?

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-I like several different sports

-such as netball and hockey.

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-The two of us like football too.

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-I watch a lot of sport on TV

-and I like watching films.

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-I also enjoy

-socializing with my friends.

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-You celebrated your 21st birthday

-a few months ago.

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-Yes, and it was nice

-to celebrate with the family.

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-Mam and Dad organized

-an amazing trip for us...

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-..to watch Italy

-play Wales at rugby.

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-That was an amazing trip.

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-Are you as keen on rugby

-as those other sports?

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-We both really like rugby

-and we love to watch Wales playing.

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-The little teddy up there...

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-..bears the legend

-2001 National Eisteddfod.

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-Does that mean

-you competed in eisteddfodau?

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-Yes, especially

-when we were at junior school.

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-We were part of a recitation group

-and we competed in gymnastics too.

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-You've been used to competing

-from a young age.

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-Yes. We had the same interests and

-we're naturally competitive people.

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-We competed as a pair too.

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-Is one of you

-more competitive than the other?

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-No, I'd say that

-we're both extremely competitive.

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-You both want to win

-and that's the way it should be.

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-You're similar in many ways...

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-..but your taste in music and films

-is quite different.

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-Yes, we're very different

-when it comes to music.

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-I like a lot of rock music...

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-..but Angharad

-likes 1980s and 1970s music.

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-Do you argue about music

-when you travel to and from Durham?

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-Yes. We never want to listen

-to each other's music.

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-It can be a bit awkward!

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-Other than your taste in music...

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-..is there anything else

-which really sets you apart?

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-Is there a really big difference

-between you?

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-I'm more laid-back than Angharad...

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-..but she wouldn't be happy

-to hear me say that!

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-Maybe that's the main difference.

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-I'm a bit more laid-back.

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-Megan says

-she's more laid-back than you.

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-Oh!

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-Is that true?

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-Is that true?

-

-I don't know. Maybe.

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-If I'm being honest...

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-..she copes better than me

-in a crisis.

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-I get in more of a panic

-than she does, unfortunately.

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-Our personalities

-are pretty similar.

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-I may be slightly more sarcastic

-than her at times.

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-Table tennis took up most of

-our time when we were growing up...

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-..but now we're at university,

-we have time to do different things.

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-Meg has done more sports,

-like netball and hockey...

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-..and I've taken an interest

-in drama.

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-It's strange to see how we've

-developed different interests...

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-..even though we shared the same

-experiences when we were growing up.

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-What aspect of drama attracts you?

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-Acting and performing?

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-In a sense, you have to perform

-when you play table tennis.

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-Yes, it's similar in a way.

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-I've played table tennis

-in front of hundreds of people...

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-..at the Commonwealth Games.

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-I also enjoy being on stage

-in front of lots of people.

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-Do the people in your drama classes

-know about your background?

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-Do they know about your huge success

-in the table tennis world?

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-They found out in dribs and drabs.

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-They had no idea when I joined...

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-..and it was nice to do

-something different with new people.

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-The best thing

-about going to university...

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-..is being able to try new things.

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-This is where you train

-when you're at home.

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-This room could tell some stories!

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-Yes, this is where I took

-my first-ever table tennis shot.

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-I thought you had to serve

-like you do in tennis...

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-..so the ball shot across the room!

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-You'd never have imagined

-I'd end up playing for Wales!

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-We've spent a lot of time

-training here.

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-If your parents hadn't bought this

-table for you all those years ago...

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-..what sport do you think

-you'd have taken up?

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-I wanted to be an athlete

-when I was little.

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-I saw Kelly Holmes win two golds in

-Athens and I wanted to emulate her.

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-I think I could have ended up

-doing any sport.

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-I really wanted to go to the

-Commonwealth Games doing anything.

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-It's lucky we got into table tennis.

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-It's lucky we got into table tennis.

-

-Yes, and your dream came true.

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-This table has an important job

-over Christmas, doesn't it?

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-Yes - that's where we eat.

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-You sit around that table?

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-A lot of people can sit around it,

-so it's done a good job for us.

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-The girls told me the story

-about the table coming to the house.

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-What made you buy

-a table tennis table?

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-We'd made the decision...

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-..to turn

-what we called the flat...

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-..into a games room.

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-We tried to

-come up with something...

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-..that the girls

-didn't have an opportunity to try.

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-They played netball and hockey

-at school.

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-We wanted an indoor sport which

-would be fun for us as a family.

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-It wasn't just for the girls -

-it was for Mam and Dad too!

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-That's how

-we reached the decision...

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-..and we found someone

-who sold table tennis tables.

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-Have they always been sporty?

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-Yes, absolutely.

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-We're both keen on sports

-and we've always supported them.

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-They've done athletics,

-swimming, gymnastics and skiing.

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-They did really well

-at many of those.

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-Are the rest of the family sporty?

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-Yes. It runs in the family.

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-It started with my grandfather.

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-He represented Wales at athletics...

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-..and he played rugby for Llanelli.

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-My brother

-competed in the triple jump...

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-..at the Edmonton Commonwealth Games

-in 1978.

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-I played football for Wales and

-my cousin played rugby for Wales.

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-There's something in the genes.

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-Did you ever imagine they'd go

-so far in the table tennis world?

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-Definitely not.

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-We just gave them the opportunity.

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-When they first took it up,

-I played against them...

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-..and I always beat them

-during the first year.

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-I remember the day Angharad beat Dad

-for the very first time.

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-She ran upstairs when she won!

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-It became obvious that they had

-a real passion for the sport.

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-Once they had that passion, it was

-clear they'd be very successful.

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-Someone from the local club

-saw them playing after school.

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-They were just having a knockabout.

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-This person turned to me and said...

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-.."Do you realize

-your children have a real talent?"

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-Six months later,

-they were playing for Wales.

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-They'd only had the table

-for around 18 months at that stage.

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-We realized very suddenly

-that they have a special talent.

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-Join me after the break

-back here in Denbigh...

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-..when I may show off

-my table tennis skills!

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-Subtitles

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-Subtitles

-

-Subtitles

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-Welcome back to Denbigh,

-where I'm spending time...

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-..with table tennis twins

-Angharad and Megan Phillips.

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-Where are we now, ladies?

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-This is one of our favourite places

-in Denbigh.

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-This chocolate shop is the

-perfect place to come and relax...

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-..after a training camp

-or a competition.

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-You've both ordered a mammoth drink.

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-You've both ordered a mammoth drink.

-

-Yes. It's called The Full Monty.

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-It's hot chocolate topped with

-marshmallows, a Flake and cream.

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-This isn't part of your normal diet!

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-No, it's a treat because

-we eat healthily most of the time.

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-It's important to treat yourself!

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-That's the drink,

-so what do you have to eat here?

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-We love to eat chocolate pizza

-when we're here.

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-Chocolate pizza?

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-Thank you, Nia.

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-Thank you, Nia.

-

-You're welcome.

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-Wow!

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-Wow!

-

-It's definitely a treat!

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-This is a dream come true

-for a chocoholic like me!

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-What's the best thing

-about being twins?

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-We always have a friend.

-We never feel lonely.

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-What's the worst thing?

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-What's the worst thing?

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-When people treat us as one person.

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-We may be similar,

-but we're also individuals.

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-There isn't much I dislike

-about being a twin.

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-They say that twins

-finish each other's sentences...

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-..and feel the same emotions.

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-Is that true about you?

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-When it comes to finishing

-each other's sentences...

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-..we're likely to do that sometimes.

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-But we don't share each other's

-emotions and we're not telepathic.

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-Really?

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-Really?

-

-Unfortunately not.

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-Well, as it happens...

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-..I have a cup here

-that's full of words.

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-I'll take a word out of the cup...

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-..and you write down

-the first thing that comes to mind.

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-You can write a word

-or draw a picture.

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-Here comes the first word.

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-Anifail - animal.

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-Neither of you are artists!

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-You won't be able to work out

-what this is!

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-Finished?

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-Show your pictures to the camera.

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-Angharad, what's that?

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-Angharad, what's that?

-

-A cat, but it may not look like one!

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-Megan?

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-Megan?

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-A lion.

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-A big cat.

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-A big cat.

-

-The same family.

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-Yours is better than mine!

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-Here comes the next word.

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-Dinbych - Denbigh.

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-Ooh!

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-Ready?

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-This is rubbish!

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-Turn your papers around now.

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-You've both drawn similar castles.

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-That is a bit weird.

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-Let's move on.

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-I enjoy being a quizmaster!

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-Bwyd - food.

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-This is really spooky.

-Show your pictures.

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-You don't even like pizza!

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-I think that definitely

-proves something.

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-Here comes the next word.

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-Dillad - clothes.

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-Ready?

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-Show your pictures.

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-They're almost identical.

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-They're almost identical.

-

-It made me drop my pen!

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-That's spooky.

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-Yes. You both left a gap

-and neither of you drew a head.

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-You see?

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-You see?

-

-We are telepathic!

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-We appreciate Mam and Dad's support.

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-They've travelled everywhere with us

-and they're always behind us.

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-Yes. Mam and Dad

-have been very supportive.

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-It would have been hard

-to succeed without them.

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-We really appreciate them.

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-They're on a long

-and very expensive journey.

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-You're their taxi

-and the extra equipment costs money.

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-Yes, that's definitely true.

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-The sports system

-in Wales and Britain...

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-..relies really heavily on parents.

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-Children need supportive parents...

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-..who also have the means

-to support their children.

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-It's really unfair, in some ways.

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-Many children who played with our

-daughters when they started out...

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-..fell by the wayside because their

-parents just couldn't support them.

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-It is unfair, but we're fortunate

-enough to be able to support them.

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-We've been to some incredible places

-along the way.

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-Places we would never have visited.

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-We've been to China and India and

-to several countries around Europe.

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-We've also been to Halifax,

-Barnsley and Accrington!

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-Would you be happy to see one

-of the girls turn professional...

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-..after they've graduated?

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-If one of them says they

-want to turn professional...

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-..we'd support her to the hilt.

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-One problem for British

-table tennis players...

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-..is that players don't earn

-much money in this country.

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-You couldn't live

-on simply playing table tennis.

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-Not if you stayed in Britain.

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-I usually feel nervous and excited

-before I play a match.

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-I try not to think

-about my opponent...

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-..and just focus

-on what I'm going to do.

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-I definitely have an adrenaline rush

-before a match.

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-My heart starts to race.

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-I have to control those feelings

-or I'll become really nervous.

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-At the same time, it just shows me

-that I'm excited about the match.

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-Angharad and Megan,

-can you give me a quick lesson?

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-I'm not sure how much I'll learn!

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-I'm not sure how much I'll learn!

-

-We'll try.

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-Great.

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-How should I hold this bat, Megan?

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-Most hold it

-as if you're shaking hands...

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-..with one finger

-going down the bat.

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-Hello! How are you?

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-Exactly.

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-You start with a serve,

-just like tennis.

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-Yes. Throw the ball up around

-six inches in a straight line.

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-A backhand serve looks like this.

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-It has to bounce on this side

-then on the other side.

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-That's it - perfect.

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-That's it - perfect.

-

-Really?

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-Yes.

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-What's the longest rally you've had?

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-What's the longest rally you've had?

-

-I don't know.

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-We once did a 300-stroke rally

-for Children In Need.

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-What?

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-The world record is eight hours.

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-The world record is eight hours.

-

-Non-stop?

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-Yes.

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-Whoa! That's a lot of hitting.

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-I don't think

-we'll try to break that record.

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-What's next for you two?

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-A competition in Luxembourg

-next week.

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-We'll travel there

-with the Wales team...

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-..to play people from across Europe.

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-It will be our biggest competition

-for a long time.

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-Megan, you're off to China.

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-Yes, I'm competing

-in the World Championships.

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-How long will you be in China?

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-For just over a week...

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-..then it's straight back

-to university to sit my exams.

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-You're getting better.

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-I spoke too soon!

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-How long will you continue

-to play table tennis?

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-We definitely want to carry on

-until the next Commonwealth Games.

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-We'll do three years at university

-and the Games will be a year away.

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-Our hope is to train hard

-and be selected again.

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-After that, I'm not sure.

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-We'll have to see how it goes.

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-You must hear this pinging noise

-in your sleep!

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-Oh, no!

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-What advice would you offer

-to a young person...

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-..who wants to take up table tennis,

-or any other sport?

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-Find a sport you really enjoy.

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-If you enjoy it, training is easy.

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-You have to put a lot of hours in...

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-..but if you make it fun,

-it doesn't feel like hard work.

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-Angharad and Megan,

-thank you for the welcome...

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-..and for the great tips.

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-Good luck in Luxembourg

-and in China.

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-Thank you.

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