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Good afternoon and welcome to Points Of View

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on this, our fiftieth anniversary.

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Yes, the Points Of View programme in its various guises,

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has been broadcasting YOUR feedback

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on the BBC's TV output for 50 years.

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What a wealth of output that has been and it's stored here,

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in this state-of-the-art archive.

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Priceless first appearances from some of the world's greatest actors...

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Yes, that is the coolest James Bond looking very uncool,

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and unique documentary footage from historic international events

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are preserved for all time.

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Recordings ranging from the first test broadcasts,

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transmitted to those rich and reckless souls

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who invested in prototype 1930s televisions,

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to groundbreaking footage of the natural world

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and, indeed, the solar system, are all here,

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in climate-controlled custody.

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In a specially extended show today,

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we'll be looking back at five decades of Points Of View,

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reflecting TV's highs and lows

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and hearing how the audience reacted to the television gems

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stored in the vaults here.

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But what about the stuff that we're broadcasting today?

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Shelf space is tight in a place like this.

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Will the current crop deserve to be stored forever?

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Doctor Who, for example, still going strong,

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although it is two years younger than us.

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Amelia Pond.

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Spooks is finishing after its tenth year. Is it going out on a high?

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-Martha.

-Andre.

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-There you are. We need to talk.

-It'll have to wait.

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The Body Farm is a spin-off from Waking The Dead,

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which was laid to rest in the spring.

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Mate, don't ignore me.

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I swear, if I have to come out there, Robbie.

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I'm actually really rather busy. I'm working with Old Tom.

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Well, Old Tom can wait. We need you in the lab.

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-We?

-Yeah, he's coming in with a body.

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Bad scripts and bad acting -

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you really are reading us the riot act on The Body Farm.

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Now, this chilled and air-filtered inner sanctum

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holds precious tapes from the 1960s.

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Unlike today's correspondents,

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letter-writers in the '60s were more measured in their feedback.

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A stoic, post-war grin and bear it attitude prevailed,

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as viewers just couldn't overcome that famous British reserve

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and stiff upper lip and let rip.

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It could be that audiences didn't quite believe

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that the empire-wide monolith

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that was the 1960s British Broadcasting Corporation

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would really welcome criticism.

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The early Points Of View was anchored by the late, great Robert Robinson

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and it called for criticism, but in practice,

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the show seemed a little too cosy with the BBC's programme makers,

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so you sensed the audience maybe doubting

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that complaints would go anywhere.

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The swinging '60s.

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Huge events - England won the World Cup...

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They think it's all over, it is now.

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..men arrived on the moon...

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That's one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind.

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..and Points Of View was launched into a slightly less dramatic orbit.

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Good evening. Every Monday, at this time,

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I'm going to read you your own letters.

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I do hope they're going to be highly critical and frightfully disobedient

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and so help save television from one of its besetting sins - complacency.

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The world was shaken by a sexual revolution.

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JFK was in the White House.

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There was nudity, psychedelia.

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Points Of View, however, seemed to be on a different planet.

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TAB of London, SE4, says...

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Depends what they write or phone to say.

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Perhaps, as the '60s swung, there was a sense that all of this

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was going just a bit too fast for some people.

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Who you going to call? Points Of View, of course.

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We got the counter-revolution. Complaints, for example,

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about this shocking informality.

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A letter from someone who signs herself

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"A Little Bit Of Victoriana from Worksop."

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I wonder if other viewers have noticed and been annoyed

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by those people interviewed on Tonight and similar programmes who,

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although as far as we know,

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have had no previous acquaintance with the interviewer,

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insist upon addressing him by his first name.

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Don't they realise how impolite this is?

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We don't get so many complaints about first names, now,

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but one theme that started then is still going strong -

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the disgraceful appearance of presenters.

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Mr JF Smith of North Shields has gone broody

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on the subject of Kenneth Allsop's hairstyle.

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Who does Kenneth Allsop think he is with his flash haircut - Adam Faith?

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A serious charge.

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Mr Allsop's personal hairdresser, Mr Stanley Alwyn,

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has come from Soho to answer it.

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A flash haircut? No, definitely not.

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This hairstyle has been designed for the smart, modern man.

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I call it the classic cut.

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Its outstanding features are one, it's very easy to handle,

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two, needs very little dressing and three, it is always neat and tidy.

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Grows on him as natural as ivy.

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And if it wasn't flash haircuts,

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other issues provoked outrage.

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Last Saturday, Stubby Kaye appeared on Juke Box Jury.

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Stand by for blasting, Mr Kaye.

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Tonight's Juke Box Jury was spoiled by Stubby Kaye.

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He was disgusting. Betty Wilkinson, Sale.

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What did he do? Use filthy language?

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I was disgusted and horrified

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at the bad manners of Stubby Kaye last Saturday.

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Ann Tallerton, Blackpool.

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Did he have some buttons undone?

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We were having a meal whilst watching Juke Box Jury

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and it made us sick to see him. E Hancock, Selling.

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Did he belch, perhaps?

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What a revolting spectacle Juke Box Jury presented

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to the viewers watching Saturday's programme. Mrs Cox, Sheerness.

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For those of you who didn't see Juke Box on Saturday,

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we won't keep you in suspense any longer.

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Stubby Kaye was chewing bubble gum and blowing great, lathery bubbles.

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All that build up and no clip?

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What a tease!

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But in the '60s spirit of the authoritarian BBC,

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that didn't seem to be a priority.

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However, a certain sports broadcast, with a clip to illustrate,

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had the viewers spitting.

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Is it absolutely necessary for the cameras

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to show a boxer's corner between rounds

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and give the viewer an uninterrupted view of gargling, spitting,

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nose-blowing and nose-wiping in the facial towel?

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It isn't pretty. It isn't important.

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But don't you find it illuminating to see how a man spits and gargles?

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To see him doing something as intimate, as unrehearsed as that?

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And one viewer was up in arms about a rather racy reference.

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Finally, an arresting communication from a joker in Kent.

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Last night on BBC television, during a peak viewing hour,

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the word "armpit" was used, quite openly and blatantly,

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at a time when millions of children, not to mention grown adults,

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must have been watching.

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Heaven knows there's enough pornography masquerading as art,

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but surely this is going too far.

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If he sent that in for a bet, he won. Good night.

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Robert died this year. What a professional.

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A brilliant writer who's missed.

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We've all heard the outcries from fans

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over crucial TV firsts lost forever because tapes were wiped

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and the excitement when long-lost footage turns up at a jumble sale.

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Sadly, there was a scandalous lack of foresight by early BBC producers,

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saving storage space and the recycling of tapes

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was thought to be more important than the priceless content being made.

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But now, when TV gold is unearthed in the most unlikely of places,

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it is sent here, where it's restored and transferred

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onto broadcastable formats for mass viewing once more.

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So, what have we got here?

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Well, this particular film was sent in by a private collector.

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It's from 1964

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and it's called Kipling

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and the reason we're so thrilled to get it back

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is the fact that it stars one of our most famous actors

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in his first credited screen appearance.

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I can recognise him - Ian McKellen.

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-And that was that.

-And how big was it?

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Oh, I'd say 11 feet.

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It's a painstaking process

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but it is worth the effort for such iconic content.

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Is TV better than it was?

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Unfair to compare a week now with a decade then,

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but you do wonder if what we're watching these days

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will be remembered so fondly. Masterchef, for example.

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We have made our decision.

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The first person leaving the competition...

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..is Margi. Sorry, Margi.

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And this one's misnamed.

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The Queen's Palaces could, by all accounts,

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be the Fiona Bruce Show.

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Inside, Mary would have found the chateau lavish...

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..with every surface decorated.

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Dinosaurs and digital graphics are a sure-fire winner. Aren't they?

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The most common plant eater in this region

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is the highly social Edmontosaurus.

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They're the largest duck-billed dinosaur in North America...

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..and they are the perfect prey for a very different type of predator.

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You wouldn't think ten years could make such a difference

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to a subject that's been around for millennia.

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But now, let's rewind three decades.

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Behind this high security, climate-controlled portal

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are gems from the 1970s -

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the era when the woefully non-PC sitcom abounded.

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Such blatant sexism, homophobia and cliched hatred of mother-in-laws

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triggers a sharp intake of breath these days.

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But they were guaranteed ratings winners then.

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Right, fairycake!

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Oh!

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Thick people like her next door can't even light a fire for you

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or make a cup of tea or wash a few dishes even!

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Unfortunately, this chink couldn't speak a word of their language, now.

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It's about Mother, Reggie.

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Oh, yes.

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Some excerpts from David Croft's work there, who died this week.

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What was Points Of View up to in this decade?

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Well, after bouncing around the schedules as a filler in the 1960s,

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POV was rested altogether in 1971.

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Mind you, Mary Whitehouse was doing the job for us,

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ensuring enough news bulletin space was devoted to TV standards

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to keep them in the public eye.

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After the eight year break, in 1979,

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Barry Took launched a brand new POV.

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This was the punk era

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and whilst Barry did dispense with the '60s stuffed shirt

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and took himself a little less seriously than his forebears,

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missives from the Points Of View studio

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still seem pretty at odds with life on the streets.

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Despite this, those who did write in were no longer shy to voice opinions.

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They demanded their rights to quality programming

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and reflected the 1980s obsessions with working women,

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sex, power and money.

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The '80s - they were all about individual empowerment.

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People with very large phones calling other people.

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Did you see that on the TV?

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It was the perfect time for us to be back on your screens.

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And there were television moments you just wouldn't see now.

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Who would ever approve this?

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Like millions of women,

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she's a regular shopper at Marks And Spencer.

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-Do you love their underclothes like the rest of Britain?

-Yes. Who doesn't?

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Through their choice of prime minister,

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the voters had made a powerful statement about female equality,

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but TV was yet to catch up.

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We start with this.

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Mr GP Simpson of Crewe also makes a feminist protest about...

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Cricket commentators referring to scoreless overs as MAIDEN overs.

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This is anti-feminine with the sexist inference

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that the batsman has failed to SCORE.

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Get it?

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Thank heavens there's more to television than smut. There's...

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Actually there were some epoch-changing events in the world of charity

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taken by television live to the whole world.

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There are people dying now, so give me the money.

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One thing you do notice from back then, complaints got tougher

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and your presenter occasionally bit back.

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What's the point of Points Of View?

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Mrs Alders, under the impression that I am part of the BBC management team,

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I am not, I am a freelance writer and broadcaster, asks...

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For now, let me say for the last time,

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that Points Of View is here to express opinions, ANY opinions.

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For the last time, I love that.

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Hey, new titles, the programme became informal in the '80s.

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Viewers took no prisoners

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and the presenter didn't take himself too seriously,

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especially between takes.

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OK. Wonderful, it's going to creep in, dear. It's going to creep in.

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If it plunges in, we shall be impervious, we wait till it creeps.

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(Sorry.)

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Imitation is apparently the sincerest form of flattery

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and dear old POV has proved fair game

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to impressionists and comedians alike over the years.

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The temptation to parody has proved just too hard to resist.

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The next topic is...

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Why, oh why, oh why,

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is the structure of my chromosomes.

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Dear BBC, I can't help noticing

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that whenever Terry receives a letter from a woman

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he doesn't seem to take it seriously. As a woman...

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Blah-di-blah.

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And she continues in that vein for 2 1/2 pages.

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Hello, I'm Anne Robinson.

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Welcome to another edition of Pointless Views.

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Right, lads,

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and welcome to another of your old favourite Points Of View.

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Or as it's better-known to the thousands of you

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who've just turned your television on this Sunday afternoon,

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-BLEEP

-it, I've missed the EastEnders omnibus again.

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Dear Points Of View, I would like to complain about

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the weird voice you are reading out my letter in.

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Again it makes you compare comedians then and now.

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Were the old ones built to last better,

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or are the new ones sharper, cuter, more original?

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I am currently seeing a hypnotist to cure me

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of my compulsion to visit hypnotists.

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There's always been terrorism. When I was growing up was the Irish.

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The Irish?

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Well...

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Are you sure? The Irish?

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People like Graham Norton and Jedward?

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Hello, welcome. Yes, my name is Rhod Gilbert.

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My job is to answer the questions that keep us all awake at night.

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The 1990s saw the spotlight focus firmly on the viewers.

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Not only were they now replacing professional presenters

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as the new swathe of docusoaps were launched -

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yes, Maureen and co were born -

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but the consumer voice of the angry viewer finally reached full volume.

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The '90s recession had forced us all to chase value,

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and now there was a growing consumer awareness that yes,

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you could return a product and ask for your money back.

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With Anne Robinson at the helm the voice of the viewer

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was finally heard both on and off camera.

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The economic boom of the '80s gave way to recession gloom in the '90s.

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But the launch of the National Lottery gave us all a glimmer of hope

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and helped to spice up our lives.

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And in TV terms the people had the power.

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Normal people rather than celebrities

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were well and truly in the driving seat.

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HORN BEEPS

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Oh, dear.

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We followed drama on the tarmac with the likes of Jeremy Spake in Airport.

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I'm prepared to give you a discount on your excess baggage.

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And a humble Yorkshire lass turned nation's sweetheart

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with The Cruise's Jane McDonald.

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It's another corridor. But this is absolutely beautiful.

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Well, actually being in control of animals made for popular viewing back in the '90s.

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Let us briefly return to Trude, the Norwegian student vet

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whose link with getting the hang of things

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was tenuous to say the least

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in Vet School.

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Oh, I'm doing it again!

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'I started to wonder whether I should actually let the BBC use it.

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'I just trust and hope everybody knows that all vets have to train.'

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It happens all the time but I happened to be put on camera doing it.

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And the viewer voyeurism continued with the dawn of the makeover show.

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Dimmock curve around here, or curves.

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I don't know whether to be flattered or not.

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I'll make the curves bigger then!

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The tackier the result, the better the viewing.

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Wow!

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I hate it. I hate skins and prints and things like that.

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It is overtacky, it'll have to go straightaway.

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Makeover TV became such a '90s phenomenon,

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even national headlines gave their points of view.

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As they say in newspapers, correspondence on this is now closed.

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Good night.

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Which brings us to the noughties

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and the reign of someone far naughtier than me,

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my Radio 2 colleague, Sir Terry Wogan.

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Terry won't even answer his mobile phone

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although come to think of it maybe he's got me on call barred.

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But despite his aversion to modern technology

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he was the custodian of POV when we all went digital.

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With the launch of BBC Three and BBC Four

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he had double the territory to patrol.

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In 2006 HD gave him the great big

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as well as the very little pixel debate to police.

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And what with iPlayer, red button, programme websites

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and the march of the digital switchover, his inbox was bulging.

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But let's not go there just yet.

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The digital age... more or less landed on my lap.

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And it couldn't have landed on a more receptive lap than mine.

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Because, as is well known,

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even in my declining years,

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I, in fact, am right there on the cutting edge.

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And I knew absolutely nothing about what was going on.

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The BBC started to sprout.

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We were there for the beginning of Three and Four.

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Heard about the six new BBC channels?

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Haven't got a telly.

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And, naturally, the public, initially,

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enthusiastic...thinking we have got a bit more variety here,

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a bit more choice, quickly changed their mind.

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And all I can say is Torchwood.

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Yes, all right, quite enough of that.

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As those trails hit fever pitch,

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the Points Of View phone went into meltdown.

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You can never do right for doing wrong.

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The British public pay a licence fee.

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And they know that they are entitled to the best.

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Television was like a moody teenager

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going through incredible changes and shouting at everyone.

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Points Of View copped the flak.

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And with so many new channels, they all needed identifying.

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But on-screen graphics did not go down well with the viewers.

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Why do TV channels insist on putting static logos on our TV screens

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while we are watching?

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When HD started, the British public leapt at it

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and said this is terrific, great definition,

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we can see everything as clear as a bell,

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and oh my god, just look at Terry Wogan's complexion.

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I would like to ask the BBC what criteria they use

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to decide which programmes to record and broadcast in HD, and which not?

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I think they should probably get out more.

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Then came the red button.

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I had to make it clear to the great viewing public

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that it was the other red button,

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because people kept switching the television off.

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The red button is the one that gives you alternative viewing.

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After solving the confusion over the launch of interactive services,

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he found another use for the red button.

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Loud background music has long been a bugbear,

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and Terry got viewers the option to turn it off.

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BIRDSONG

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The red button option to switch off the music.

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So if a lot of peak-time BBC One TV

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handed over for you to control is not Points Of View people power,

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I don't know what is.

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Another breakthrough was the iPlayer.

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And frankly I still don't use the iPlayer because I don't know how.

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But I mean, you're talking about an old geezer,

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who is right there on the cutting edge.

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But...it has become enormous.

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The only incident Points Of View was unable to get an apology for

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was a wardrobe malfunction in 2007

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which we won't trouble you with again.

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Well, OK, blink and you miss it.

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Good afternoon. There's one thing you can't accuse Points Of View of -

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overkill.

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It was a trick of the light.

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A trick of the light.

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And people claim they saw something that simply wasn't there.

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I know.

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I know.

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But is that must-watch good, or must-watch bad?

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Don't ask me how it happened or why, you know!

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Although it was enormously flattering, of course.

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So, 50 years of Points Of View

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and I am sure that was the quickest TV tour imaginable.

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There is some great television output these days, of course there is,

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but the complaints are getting louder.

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The BBC gets busier,

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and those with something to say say it with more assurance than ever.

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Hey, that's good business for us.

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We are back to normal next week.

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We'd love your views on the BBC's newest programmes.

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We'll be talking about Merlin's magical reappearance

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and Strictly of course, glitter balls and Zoe Balls.

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Do get in touch. You can write to us at this address.

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You are also more than welcome to e-mail. Here is the address for you.

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Or jump on the message board.

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Or phone us. The number is charged as a local rate call from a landline.

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Here it is.

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Now over the 50 years some other presenters occasionally stood in,

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don't want to miss them out, so goodbye from them and from me.

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-I'll bid you farewell.

-Bye-bye.

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Me, I'm off to buy myself a silk blouse, good night.

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-Good night.

-End of story.

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-It's goodbye from them, and from me.

-Good night.

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