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Good afternoon, and welcome to Points Of View. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:13 | |
What a busy week inside the BBC. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:15 | |
Budgets slashed, whole departments moved - | 0:00:15 | 0:00:18 | |
you will tell us if it shows on screen. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:21 | |
Now, can a presenter ever be too excitable? Isn't it good to be keen? | 0:00:21 | 0:00:25 | |
Apparently not - Zoe Ball has taken over from Claudia Winkleman, | 0:00:25 | 0:00:29 | |
she of the excitable nature and long fringe, on Strictly - It Takes Two. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:33 | |
And there is a resounding cry of "Calm down, dear!" from some. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:38 | |
However, Zoe has dancing experience. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:53 | |
Yes, unlike some of my other colleagues on Radio 2, she can move. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:57 | |
And that, you tell us, helps with pertinent questions - | 0:00:57 | 0:01:00 | |
which are better than impertinent ones. | 0:01:00 | 0:01:03 | |
SHIRLEY BASSEY: # Get this party started! # | 0:01:03 | 0:01:07 | |
So, I think all things considered Zoe is getting a "Se-ven!" so far. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:22 | |
Now on to Strictly's Saturday night dance partner Merlin, | 0:01:22 | 0:01:25 | |
which waltzed back onto our screens last week. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:28 | |
That'll be 50p, please. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:29 | |
We know where we wish to go. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:42 | |
Was it? Wouldn't it be great if it was? | 0:01:42 | 0:01:45 | |
We THINK it is actually a groat, or something similar, | 0:01:45 | 0:01:49 | |
and not the howler you'd so hoped for. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:51 | |
We would be hard-pressed to beat the Merlin lager cans of yesteryear, | 0:01:51 | 0:01:55 | |
but we'll give it a go this series. | 0:01:55 | 0:01:58 | |
Remember, do report your howlers via the website: | 0:01:58 | 0:02:04 | |
But what of the rest of Merlin's return? | 0:02:04 | 0:02:07 | |
Sounds as if plenty of the Doctor Who crowd have been successfully | 0:02:23 | 0:02:26 | |
weaned across to Merlin, until they get their Christmas fix. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:30 | |
But actually, they're not entirely happy. | 0:02:30 | 0:02:32 | |
The decision to drop Doctor Who Confidential, | 0:02:32 | 0:02:36 | |
BBC Three's sneak behind the scenes, | 0:02:36 | 0:02:38 | |
has caused a cry of outrage from behind the sofa. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:42 | |
I would like to put in a plea to the BBC not to axe | 0:02:46 | 0:02:48 | |
Doctor Who Confidential. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:50 | |
It's been a very important programme for both myself | 0:02:50 | 0:02:53 | |
and my 11-year-old son, because it's given such a terrific insight for him | 0:02:53 | 0:02:57 | |
into what goes on in a production of this sort. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:00 | |
Yes, other dimensions are very important for anyone | 0:03:12 | 0:03:14 | |
with knowledge of the good Doctor, so why don't we head to ours, | 0:03:14 | 0:03:18 | |
BBC Three - to see what they are saying about all this. | 0:03:18 | 0:03:22 | |
Now, you won't have to put up with a disembodied voice | 0:03:32 | 0:03:35 | |
when BBC Three comes up in the future - I hope - | 0:03:35 | 0:03:37 | |
because the controller Zai Bennett will be here on the show in person, | 0:03:37 | 0:03:42 | |
and do make a note of that Doctor Who Confidential annoyance, | 0:03:42 | 0:03:45 | |
because we need as many like that as we can, to put to him. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:49 | |
Now, Bang Goes The Theory. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:51 | |
This BBC One pop science show has come in for stick in the past | 0:03:51 | 0:03:55 | |
for dumbing down, and we're back with excitable presenting - | 0:03:55 | 0:03:58 | |
on this programme, they make Zoe Ball look like a librarian. | 0:03:58 | 0:04:02 | |
However, much praise for this week's episode on nuclear power. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:06 | |
My hunch is it's going to be less than car crashes... | 0:04:06 | 0:04:09 | |
You're quite right, it is less than car crashes. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:12 | |
-I think this is going to be a surprise to you. -Wow, OK... | 0:04:12 | 0:04:15 | |
So, that is "tick, VG" for them, then. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:37 | |
But just before you reach for the gold stars, Theory team, wait - | 0:04:37 | 0:04:40 | |
because there is another queue of viewers who would like a word. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:44 | |
There are some serious charges about misuse of statistics there, | 0:05:05 | 0:05:08 | |
and we're speaking to the commissioner of BBC science programmes, | 0:05:08 | 0:05:12 | |
Kim Shillinglaw, in our interview special in a couple of weeks' time. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:15 | |
We'll certainly put those points to her, | 0:05:15 | 0:05:17 | |
and any others you would care to fire our way. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:20 | |
Sticking with statistics, our viewer Sue Johnson | 0:05:20 | 0:05:23 | |
has been keeping score of Who Do You Think You Are? | 0:05:23 | 0:05:25 | |
and is wondering who exactly the programme makers think THEY are, | 0:05:25 | 0:05:29 | |
by following so few celebrities from ethnic minorities. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:33 | |
MUSIC: Theme from "Who Do You Think You Are?" | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
I'm a real fan of Who Do You Think You Are? | 0:05:40 | 0:05:42 | |
and I think some previous series have been very interesting. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:45 | |
I'm saddened by this series, because I think this programme | 0:05:45 | 0:05:49 | |
could represent that very rich mix of people that live in Britain, | 0:05:49 | 0:05:53 | |
and not just feature, as it has done this season, | 0:05:53 | 0:05:56 | |
just white, mainly male, mainly middle-class, | 0:05:56 | 0:05:59 | |
mainly middle-aged people. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:01 | |
Sue has a point, of course - | 0:06:02 | 0:06:04 | |
but how do the makers arrive at their chosen subjects? | 0:06:04 | 0:06:07 | |
Certainly in the past, there's been some interesting people featured - | 0:06:26 | 0:06:30 | |
Julia Sawalha, whose father was a well-known actor | 0:06:30 | 0:06:33 | |
who came from the Middle East, and had got a fascinating background. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:37 | |
Instead of answering your question, | 0:06:37 | 0:06:39 | |
she asks us if you want to drink some goat milk... | 0:06:39 | 0:06:42 | |
-JULIA LAUGHS -Ahhh! Nice(!) | 0:06:42 | 0:06:45 | |
And I just feel that those people in this society | 0:06:45 | 0:06:48 | |
are not necessarily...would not consider themselves to be white, | 0:06:48 | 0:06:51 | |
they would consider themselves to be other races, | 0:06:51 | 0:06:54 | |
and I think that should be reflected. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:56 | |
I think the thing that hurt me most of all was | 0:06:56 | 0:06:59 | |
George getting his four-year-old son | 0:06:59 | 0:07:01 | |
giving him the money to buy slaves from him. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:04 | |
That's just awful. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:06 | |
It is so far removed from me | 0:07:06 | 0:07:07 | |
in every way possible. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:10 | |
This series has featured some interesting people - | 0:07:11 | 0:07:15 | |
but it's about the programme, | 0:07:15 | 0:07:17 | |
I think, being lazy, and not selecting | 0:07:17 | 0:07:20 | |
from a broader pool of people | 0:07:20 | 0:07:24 | |
that make up the society and the population of Britain. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:28 | |
Possibly the most famous TV excavation into someone's past - | 0:08:08 | 0:08:11 | |
with historic consequences - was when David Frost got Richard Nixon | 0:08:11 | 0:08:15 | |
to admit to and apologise for the Watergate affair. | 0:08:15 | 0:08:19 | |
And as it is 40 years since the scandal was uncovered, | 0:08:19 | 0:08:22 | |
BBC Two devoted four hours of programming to the issue on Sunday night. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:26 | |
This is the climactic moment when you stay silent. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:31 | |
I just can't stand seeing somebody else cry. And that ended it for me. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:40 | |
And then I blurted it out, | 0:08:40 | 0:08:43 | |
and I said, "I'm sorry." | 0:08:43 | 0:08:47 | |
To add "gate" to the end of a word has become common parlance | 0:08:47 | 0:08:50 | |
for suggesting there is a scandal or conspiracy involved. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:55 | |
And as it is 40 years since Watergate, | 0:08:55 | 0:08:58 | |
theoretically there's a whole generation, if not two, | 0:08:58 | 0:09:01 | |
of people who may not fully understand the connection. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:03 | |
So, viewer Michael Walsh thinks the habit should be dropped. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:07 | |
Dear Points Of View, don't you think the suffix "gate" is overworked, | 0:09:07 | 0:09:12 | |
obsolete and unintelligible to the majority of people born after 1972? | 0:09:12 | 0:09:17 | |
Now we have Hackgate. The Wikipedia lists 132 usages of "gate". | 0:09:18 | 0:09:24 | |
I doubt these are considered uses of the suffix. I find it irritating | 0:09:24 | 0:09:27 | |
because I listen to the BBC to avoid sloppy or sensation journalism. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:32 | |
So, BBC, please stop using the suffix "gate". | 0:09:32 | 0:09:36 | |
Thank you for that. What was the most recent one? Catgate, was it? | 0:09:36 | 0:09:40 | |
If Michael gets his way, all the gates will go. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:43 | |
Will we need a replacement word, though? Now, who's for a sing-song? | 0:09:43 | 0:09:47 | |
Not Songs Of Praise, by all accounts. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:49 | |
Or, at least, not the rousing, traditional hymn-singing | 0:09:49 | 0:09:52 | |
the Sunday night stalwart is famed for. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:55 | |
We've touched on this issue before - | 0:09:55 | 0:09:56 | |
long-term fans of the show being disgruntled | 0:09:56 | 0:09:59 | |
that it's focusing more on celebrities than congregations, | 0:09:59 | 0:10:02 | |
and pop songs instead of Psalms. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:05 | |
Last week's 50th birthday show appears to have confirmed | 0:10:05 | 0:10:08 | |
that the modern Songs Of Praise has strayed a long way from its roots. | 0:10:08 | 0:10:12 | |
They're getting rowdy in the pews. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
Editor David Taviner, please make your way to the lectern, | 0:10:35 | 0:10:38 | |
and speak to us. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:39 | |
Let me reassure viewers | 0:10:39 | 0:10:41 | |
that hymn singing and inspirational songs, sacred music, worship songs, | 0:10:41 | 0:10:45 | |
are the absolute backbone of Songs Of Praise, | 0:10:45 | 0:10:48 | |
and always will be. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:50 | |
It began for us in 1961 and, in that programme, 50 years ago, | 0:10:50 | 0:10:54 | |
Heather Harper - a leading soprano of her day - sang in the programme. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:58 | |
She was a celebrity of the time, if you like. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
So, in some respects, times haven't changed that much. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:03 | |
And another form of singing is causing consternation | 0:11:03 | 0:11:07 | |
amongst younger viewers. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:08 | |
# It's the end of a lovely day | 0:11:08 | 0:11:12 | |
# The time has come to say good night | 0:11:12 | 0:11:17 | |
# To say sleep tight till the morning light... # | 0:11:17 | 0:11:20 | |
We very much liked the older version of the CBeebies tune, didn't we? | 0:11:20 | 0:11:25 | |
What we liked about it was it was very calming. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:30 | |
We used to watch it at the end of the day, | 0:11:30 | 0:11:32 | |
and they'd switch off the lights and then it was time to go to bed. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:36 | |
But now it's gone all a bit funked-up. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:38 | |
UPBEAT: # The time has come... # | 0:11:38 | 0:11:40 | |
Yeah, preferred the older one. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:42 | |
I used to think it was like a classic of children's television | 0:11:42 | 0:11:45 | |
because I just thought the presenters | 0:11:45 | 0:11:48 | |
were just so tender and lovely in the old version. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:52 | |
# Now it's time to say good night | 0:11:52 | 0:11:55 | |
# At the end of a lovely day. # | 0:11:55 | 0:11:59 | |
# We've had so much fun today | 0:12:02 | 0:12:06 | |
# Tomorrow's just a dream away... # | 0:12:06 | 0:12:09 | |
'Spot the difference? Little Mo and his mum and dad certainly have. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:13 | |
'And Dad is an expert.' | 0:12:13 | 0:12:15 | |
HE PLAYS THE TUNE | 0:12:15 | 0:12:20 | |
And so on. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:21 | |
So this is the new version, and you'll find it's a fifth higher, | 0:12:21 | 0:12:25 | |
which is actually half an octave higher than the original. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:29 | |
PLAYS NEW VERSION | 0:12:29 | 0:12:33 | |
# La, dah-dah-dah, ya dah dah... # It's more operatic. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:36 | |
It feels actually as if I'm having to force it out. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:40 | |
Whereas the original version, that's the pitch that you'd choose | 0:12:40 | 0:12:43 | |
because it's very gentle. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:45 | |
So, what have CBeebies got to say for themselves? | 0:12:45 | 0:12:48 | |
Result - you asked, they listened and I think we should bring you | 0:13:10 | 0:13:13 | |
first air play of the new musical arrangement when we get it! | 0:13:13 | 0:13:17 | |
Good night! | 0:13:17 | 0:13:19 | |
At risk of disturbing the slumber you've now drifted into, | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
I would just like to say, you can write to us. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:25 | |
You're also more than welcome to e-mail. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:31 | |
Or jump onto the message board - it's always lively. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:37 | |
And you can phone us. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:41 | |
The number is charged as a local-rate call from a landline. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:45 | |
Goodbye. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:50 | |
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