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Good afternoon, and welcome to Points Of View. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:12 | |
And may we say, well done for finding us. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:14 | |
I don't know if you used Sat-nav or the old-fashioned Radio Times, | 0:00:14 | 0:00:18 | |
but congratulations, you found the programme | 0:00:18 | 0:00:20 | |
far from home, here on BBC Two. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:22 | |
From comments we have had, | 0:00:22 | 0:00:24 | |
it seems that transplanting shows is not always a good idea. | 0:00:24 | 0:00:28 | |
Did you see Strictly at Wembley? | 0:00:28 | 0:00:29 | |
# Hell is gone and heaven's here | 0:00:29 | 0:00:32 | |
# There's nothing left for you to fear | 0:00:32 | 0:00:34 | |
# Shake your ass, come over here | 0:00:34 | 0:00:35 | |
# Now scream... # | 0:00:35 | 0:00:37 | |
Actually, Fran, you don't sound grumpy at all. | 0:01:00 | 0:01:02 | |
You love the programme. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:04 | |
When we filmed in the Strictly studio a couple of weeks back, | 0:01:04 | 0:01:07 | |
I did find it a more intimate space than I expected, | 0:01:07 | 0:01:10 | |
so maybe Wembley blew it. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:11 | |
So, they did raise money, | 0:01:43 | 0:01:45 | |
but they may not go back to Wembley for a while. | 0:01:45 | 0:01:47 | |
Now to the elephant in the room. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:49 | |
Last Sunday, you reviewed Life's Too Short, | 0:01:49 | 0:01:52 | |
the latest Ricky Gervais comedy show. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:54 | |
And it was a 50-50 split on those who found it funny | 0:01:54 | 0:01:57 | |
and those who did not. | 0:01:57 | 0:01:58 | |
No surprise there. | 0:01:58 | 0:02:00 | |
But now people are focusing on the key issue, | 0:02:00 | 0:02:02 | |
which is that it uses a disability to get a laugh. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:06 | |
I want to tell him how to be a dwarf, | 0:02:06 | 0:02:07 | |
how to think like a dwarf, how to feel like a dwarf. | 0:02:07 | 0:02:10 | |
Then they'll use special effects to make him small like a dwarf. | 0:02:13 | 0:02:16 | |
And should you ever do that? | 0:02:16 | 0:02:18 | |
Well, it hasn't been ignored, | 0:03:08 | 0:03:10 | |
Kristina and the many others who wrote in this week. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:13 | |
You've been heard, | 0:03:13 | 0:03:14 | |
and this is the response. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:16 | |
It wasn't just discussion around the content. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:50 | |
The many trailers for Life's Too Short also ensured | 0:03:50 | 0:03:53 | |
it had plenty of pre-publicity. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:56 | |
But hearing lots about a programme before it is broadcast | 0:03:56 | 0:03:59 | |
isn't necessarily a bonus, | 0:03:59 | 0:04:01 | |
is it, Teresa Barker? | 0:04:01 | 0:04:03 | |
Just so irritating. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:04 | |
I just...came to say... | 0:04:04 | 0:04:08 | |
-Hello! -I could stick around and... | 0:04:08 | 0:04:10 | |
-Enjoy the party. -Hello! | 0:04:10 | 0:04:12 | |
It's the BBC programme trailers, | 0:04:12 | 0:04:14 | |
those adverts telling us what is coming up on the BBC | 0:04:14 | 0:04:17 | |
slotted before and after programmes, | 0:04:17 | 0:04:19 | |
that's making many of you want to reach for your remotes. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:23 | |
I could scream, I was just so fed up. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:25 | |
And I thought the BBC, | 0:04:25 | 0:04:27 | |
with their sort of monotonous regularity | 0:04:27 | 0:04:30 | |
of pumping these things out... | 0:04:30 | 0:04:33 | |
Wednesday at 9 on... | 0:04:33 | 0:04:35 | |
Tuesday at 9 on BBC Two... | 0:04:35 | 0:04:36 | |
Starts tonight at 10:30... | 0:04:36 | 0:04:39 | |
..Continues Thursday at 9 on BBC Four. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:41 | |
I don't remember, years back, | 0:04:41 | 0:04:42 | |
being quite so inundated by the BBC's trailers, | 0:04:42 | 0:04:46 | |
and they just get so irritating, | 0:04:46 | 0:04:48 | |
because you're watching the same thing over and over and over again. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:52 | |
The trailer is the same. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:54 | |
The content doesn't really seem to vary. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:56 | |
The Pan Am one sticks in my mind particularly, | 0:04:56 | 0:05:00 | |
you know, those blue wiggling bottoms drove me nuts. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
I felt, if I see those again... | 0:05:03 | 0:05:05 | |
In actual fact, what it has done for me is, | 0:05:05 | 0:05:07 | |
I absolutely refuse to watch the programme. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
It's turned me off totally. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:12 | |
I probably won't watch Garrow's Law either. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:15 | |
The repetition of the woman | 0:05:15 | 0:05:18 | |
whose son had been stolen, abducted or whatever it was. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:21 | |
He has stolen my son! | 0:05:21 | 0:05:23 | |
With modern technology, | 0:05:24 | 0:05:26 | |
we have access to so many ways of finding out what's on television. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:29 | |
Other people have the daily newspaper, | 0:05:29 | 0:05:32 | |
most people have a copy of something like the Radio Times, | 0:05:32 | 0:05:35 | |
you know, do we need to be subjected to this all the time? | 0:05:35 | 0:05:39 | |
And a radical suggestion from Teresa | 0:05:39 | 0:05:41 | |
for those BBC staff responsible for bombarding us with trailer overload? | 0:05:41 | 0:05:47 | |
Take off, dock, about £25 per trailer shown, | 0:05:47 | 0:05:50 | |
of the channel controller's salary at the end of that week, | 0:05:50 | 0:05:54 | |
and I think they could go home with quite a lot less money. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:57 | |
So Teresa is not keen on trailers, | 0:05:57 | 0:05:59 | |
and neither, it would appear, are BBC HD viewers in Scotland. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:04 | |
The HD channel is UK-wide, | 0:06:04 | 0:06:06 | |
but there's a basic problem here. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:08 | |
It trails programmes its own viewers can't see in Scotland, | 0:06:08 | 0:06:11 | |
where they have regional opt-outs. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:13 | |
Whoops. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:14 | |
I think viewers who have seen trails | 0:06:31 | 0:06:33 | |
for programmes that are not going out on BBC One Scotland | 0:06:33 | 0:06:36 | |
may have been watching on BBC One HD, | 0:06:36 | 0:06:39 | |
where we can't rebrand the trails. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:41 | |
Programmes like The Manor Reborn, | 0:06:41 | 0:06:43 | |
which is currently being trailed on BBC One HD for 9pm on a Thursday, | 0:06:43 | 0:06:47 | |
is actually being shown on a Sunday at 10:25 on BBC One Scotland. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:52 | |
So if you're watching BBC One Scotland | 0:06:52 | 0:06:55 | |
you would see it trailed as such, | 0:06:55 | 0:06:57 | |
but if you're watching BBC One HD, you would see the network trails. | 0:06:57 | 0:07:02 | |
Towards the end of 2012, BBC One Scotland will launch in HD, | 0:07:02 | 0:07:06 | |
so hopefully that will be the end of all those problems, | 0:07:06 | 0:07:09 | |
and when you see a trail for BBC One Scotland HD, | 0:07:09 | 0:07:12 | |
it'll be what you see in your listings | 0:07:12 | 0:07:15 | |
and what you see on the HD channel as well. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:17 | |
So far, we've been hearing lots | 0:07:17 | 0:07:19 | |
about how not to make or promote a programme. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:22 | |
Don't take it out of the studio, | 0:07:22 | 0:07:23 | |
don't exploit disability for humour, | 0:07:23 | 0:07:25 | |
and don't over-trail your output. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:28 | |
Shall we be just a weeny bit more positive? | 0:07:28 | 0:07:31 | |
What about a list of how-tos? | 0:07:31 | 0:07:33 | |
And here, we could take as our inspiration | 0:07:33 | 0:07:35 | |
the programme How To Build, | 0:07:35 | 0:07:37 | |
which seems to have nailed it on all fronts. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:40 | |
At this speed, the car would normally follow this line. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:44 | |
But using brake steer | 0:07:44 | 0:07:45 | |
allows it to follow this line, | 0:07:45 | 0:07:48 | |
holding the apex of the corner | 0:07:48 | 0:07:49 | |
and killing any understeer. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:52 | |
Ah yes, not having a numpty presenter, | 0:08:10 | 0:08:13 | |
a sure-fire ingredient of success. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:16 | |
Thank you Sue and "shilkman". | 0:08:16 | 0:08:18 | |
We now know what makes programmes work and what makes them fail. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:22 | |
If channel controllers still can't get it right, | 0:08:22 | 0:08:24 | |
they can always put out a load of repeats, | 0:08:24 | 0:08:27 | |
can't they, John Taylor? | 0:08:27 | 0:08:28 | |
In choosing what to repeat, | 0:08:28 | 0:08:30 | |
I think the BBC could show a bit more imagination. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:32 | |
The BBC's got a huge archive of fantastic programmes, | 0:08:32 | 0:08:37 | |
which people would love to see, | 0:08:37 | 0:08:39 | |
which are probably hidden away in a cupboard somewhere, | 0:08:39 | 0:08:42 | |
forgotten. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:43 | |
Ah, the BBC archives stretching back into the mists of time, | 0:08:43 | 0:08:47 | |
or as John would have it, the back of a dusty cupboard. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:50 | |
But I feel a light bulb coming on, John? | 0:08:50 | 0:08:53 | |
My great idea for repeats | 0:08:54 | 0:08:56 | |
is to let the viewers decide what they'd like to see. | 0:08:56 | 0:08:59 | |
Let viewers nominate programmes from the past which they've enjoyed, | 0:08:59 | 0:09:03 | |
and bring them to the attention of other people | 0:09:03 | 0:09:06 | |
who may not have seen them. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:08 | |
They could make a programme about the archive itself, | 0:09:09 | 0:09:14 | |
and look at extracts from archive programmes. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:18 | |
When people see them, they may say, "That looks an interesting programme, | 0:09:18 | 0:09:22 | |
"I never saw it, I'd like to see that." | 0:09:22 | 0:09:24 | |
Then they could vote in, either by the internet or phone, | 0:09:24 | 0:09:27 | |
to say, "I'd like to vote for this programme." | 0:09:27 | 0:09:30 | |
Tell me about the trial. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:32 | |
I think it were real handsome of you | 0:09:32 | 0:09:34 | |
to speak up for him. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:35 | |
Many wouldn't have done it. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:37 | |
He'd have been better off if I'd stayed at home. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:42 | |
I didn't do it right. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:43 | |
I should have...flattered them more, | 0:09:43 | 0:09:46 | |
talked of us gentlemen. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:47 | |
Of course, delving into the archive can be a complicated business, | 0:09:47 | 0:09:51 | |
and it usually boils down to money. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:53 | |
Obviously there'll be problems | 0:09:53 | 0:09:56 | |
for some programmes, with repeat fees, royalties and so on, | 0:09:56 | 0:09:59 | |
but there must be some way around | 0:09:59 | 0:10:00 | |
allowing older programmes to be shown. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:03 | |
-Morning, Frank. -Morning. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:04 | |
One of the cylinders is spluttering. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:06 | |
Soot on the spark plug, I think. I had a look at it. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:09 | |
It's all right now. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:10 | |
It our BBC. We pay for it. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:15 | |
They've got programmes which a lot of us would like to see again, | 0:10:15 | 0:10:18 | |
so let the people choose what we're going to see repeated. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:21 | |
This week saw a new live studio show begin on BBC One. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:25 | |
It was called That's Britain, | 0:10:25 | 0:10:28 | |
and apparently, that's a shame. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:29 | |
On this show, your words count, | 0:10:29 | 0:10:31 | |
because this is our Word Wall. Too-doo-doo! | 0:10:31 | 0:10:34 | |
AUDIENCE COOS | 0:10:34 | 0:10:35 | |
Yes, we know it often feels as if you're talking to the wall. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:38 | |
On That's Britain, you are. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:39 | |
Money is still pouring in for Children In Need, | 0:10:59 | 0:11:02 | |
with a total edging £27 million, | 0:11:02 | 0:11:05 | |
and last week's extravaganza raised a record amount on the night. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:09 | |
A personal favourite for many | 0:11:09 | 0:11:11 | |
was when Lord Sugar entered the Dragons' Den. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:14 | |
What have you dragged me out here for, anyway? | 0:11:14 | 0:11:17 | |
Who has a business meeting | 0:11:17 | 0:11:18 | |
in a knackered old warehouse, chains everywhere? | 0:11:18 | 0:11:22 | |
Get a grip! This is not The Long Good Friday. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:25 | |
But it's Lord Sugar's current day job with Young Apprentice | 0:11:25 | 0:11:28 | |
that's going down well, with at least one young entrepreneur. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:31 | |
I believe The Apprentice is the best programme | 0:11:31 | 0:11:34 | |
the British Broadcasting Company has ever produced. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:37 | |
It's truly fantastic. Alan Sugar is absolutely amazing. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:41 | |
When it's time for the boardroom, | 0:11:41 | 0:11:42 | |
it's left me engrossed in the television, shrieking. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:45 | |
The programme has truly inspired me, and has left me... | 0:11:45 | 0:11:48 | |
..desperately wanting to fulfil my entrepreneurial dreams. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:54 | |
Even at this early stage, Jake, | 0:11:54 | 0:11:56 | |
I sense you may have caught Lord Sugar's eye. | 0:11:56 | 0:11:59 | |
To another viewer, Lex Harrison, who's done what I do, but better. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:02 | |
He sent us an e-mail headed "The Ups And Downs Of The BBC," | 0:12:02 | 0:12:06 | |
and basically summed up the whole week's postbag for us. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:09 | |
Who would have thought you could have changed so many women's lives | 0:12:32 | 0:12:35 | |
by teaching us how to sing? | 0:12:35 | 0:12:37 | |
This has been an unforgettable experience, | 0:12:37 | 0:12:40 | |
which we are all so proud to be a part of. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:42 | |
So here is our thank-you to you, and we hope you enjoy it. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:45 | |
PIANO MUSIC | 0:12:45 | 0:12:49 | |
# You're nothing special | 0:12:50 | 0:12:53 | |
# In fact you're a bit of a bore | 0:12:53 | 0:12:55 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:12:55 | 0:12:57 | |
# You're just a bit of a bore, you know | 0:12:57 | 0:13:00 | |
# When you tell a joke | 0:13:00 | 0:13:04 | |
# We've probably heard it before... # | 0:13:04 | 0:13:07 | |
Yeah, that's fair. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:09 | |
# Must have heard it before, oh, yeah... # | 0:13:09 | 0:13:11 | |
Thank you, Lex. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:13 | |
Military Wives has undoubtedly been | 0:13:13 | 0:13:15 | |
one of the most appreciated programmes this autumn. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:18 | |
Now, next week, the controller of the BBC's naughty teenager, | 0:13:18 | 0:13:22 | |
officially known as BBC Three, is in our hot seat. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:25 | |
To put questions to him or draw our attention to anything else, | 0:13:25 | 0:13:29 | |
here's the address. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:30 | |
There's also an e-mail address, | 0:13:34 | 0:13:38 | |
and you can let rip on the messageboard. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:42 | |
Or give us a ring. Calls are charged at a local rate from a landline. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:46 | |
Here is the number for you. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:47 | |
Until next week, when we're back on BBC One, goodbye. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:55 | |
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