Episode 19 Points of View


Episode 19

Jeremy Vine hosts the weekly round-up of audience feedback on BBC television programmes.


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Good afternoon, and welcome to Points Of View.

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And may we say, well done for finding us.

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I don't know if you used Sat-nav or the old-fashioned Radio Times,

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but congratulations, you found the programme

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far from home, here on BBC Two.

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From comments we have had,

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it seems that transplanting shows is not always a good idea.

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Did you see Strictly at Wembley?

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# Hell is gone and heaven's here

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# There's nothing left for you to fear

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# Shake your ass, come over here

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# Now scream... #

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Actually, Fran, you don't sound grumpy at all.

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You love the programme.

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When we filmed in the Strictly studio a couple of weeks back,

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I did find it a more intimate space than I expected,

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so maybe Wembley blew it.

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So, they did raise money,

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but they may not go back to Wembley for a while.

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Now to the elephant in the room.

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Last Sunday, you reviewed Life's Too Short,

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the latest Ricky Gervais comedy show.

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And it was a 50-50 split on those who found it funny

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and those who did not.

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No surprise there.

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But now people are focusing on the key issue,

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which is that it uses a disability to get a laugh.

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I want to tell him how to be a dwarf,

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how to think like a dwarf, how to feel like a dwarf.

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Then they'll use special effects to make him small like a dwarf.

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And should you ever do that?

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Well, it hasn't been ignored,

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Kristina and the many others who wrote in this week.

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You've been heard,

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and this is the response.

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It wasn't just discussion around the content.

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The many trailers for Life's Too Short also ensured

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it had plenty of pre-publicity.

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But hearing lots about a programme before it is broadcast

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isn't necessarily a bonus,

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is it, Teresa Barker?

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Just so irritating.

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I just...came to say...

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-Hello!

-I could stick around and...

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-Enjoy the party.

-Hello!

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It's the BBC programme trailers,

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those adverts telling us what is coming up on the BBC

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slotted before and after programmes,

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that's making many of you want to reach for your remotes.

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I could scream, I was just so fed up.

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And I thought the BBC,

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with their sort of monotonous regularity

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of pumping these things out...

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Wednesday at 9 on...

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Tuesday at 9 on BBC Two...

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Starts tonight at 10:30...

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..Continues Thursday at 9 on BBC Four.

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I don't remember, years back,

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being quite so inundated by the BBC's trailers,

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and they just get so irritating,

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because you're watching the same thing over and over and over again.

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The trailer is the same.

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The content doesn't really seem to vary.

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The Pan Am one sticks in my mind particularly,

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you know, those blue wiggling bottoms drove me nuts.

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I felt, if I see those again...

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In actual fact, what it has done for me is,

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I absolutely refuse to watch the programme.

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It's turned me off totally.

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I probably won't watch Garrow's Law either.

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The repetition of the woman

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whose son had been stolen, abducted or whatever it was.

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He has stolen my son!

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With modern technology,

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we have access to so many ways of finding out what's on television.

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Other people have the daily newspaper,

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most people have a copy of something like the Radio Times,

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you know, do we need to be subjected to this all the time?

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And a radical suggestion from Teresa

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for those BBC staff responsible for bombarding us with trailer overload?

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Take off, dock, about £25 per trailer shown,

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of the channel controller's salary at the end of that week,

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and I think they could go home with quite a lot less money.

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So Teresa is not keen on trailers,

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and neither, it would appear, are BBC HD viewers in Scotland.

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The HD channel is UK-wide,

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but there's a basic problem here.

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It trails programmes its own viewers can't see in Scotland,

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where they have regional opt-outs.

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Whoops.

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I think viewers who have seen trails

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for programmes that are not going out on BBC One Scotland

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may have been watching on BBC One HD,

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where we can't rebrand the trails.

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Programmes like The Manor Reborn,

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which is currently being trailed on BBC One HD for 9pm on a Thursday,

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is actually being shown on a Sunday at 10:25 on BBC One Scotland.

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So if you're watching BBC One Scotland

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you would see it trailed as such,

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but if you're watching BBC One HD, you would see the network trails.

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Towards the end of 2012, BBC One Scotland will launch in HD,

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so hopefully that will be the end of all those problems,

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and when you see a trail for BBC One Scotland HD,

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it'll be what you see in your listings

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and what you see on the HD channel as well.

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So far, we've been hearing lots

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about how not to make or promote a programme.

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Don't take it out of the studio,

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don't exploit disability for humour,

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and don't over-trail your output.

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Shall we be just a weeny bit more positive?

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What about a list of how-tos?

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And here, we could take as our inspiration

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the programme How To Build,

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which seems to have nailed it on all fronts.

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At this speed, the car would normally follow this line.

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But using brake steer

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allows it to follow this line,

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holding the apex of the corner

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and killing any understeer.

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Ah yes, not having a numpty presenter,

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a sure-fire ingredient of success.

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Thank you Sue and "shilkman".

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We now know what makes programmes work and what makes them fail.

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If channel controllers still can't get it right,

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they can always put out a load of repeats,

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can't they, John Taylor?

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In choosing what to repeat,

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I think the BBC could show a bit more imagination.

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The BBC's got a huge archive of fantastic programmes,

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which people would love to see,

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which are probably hidden away in a cupboard somewhere,

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forgotten.

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Ah, the BBC archives stretching back into the mists of time,

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or as John would have it, the back of a dusty cupboard.

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But I feel a light bulb coming on, John?

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My great idea for repeats

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is to let the viewers decide what they'd like to see.

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Let viewers nominate programmes from the past which they've enjoyed,

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and bring them to the attention of other people

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who may not have seen them.

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They could make a programme about the archive itself,

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and look at extracts from archive programmes.

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When people see them, they may say, "That looks an interesting programme,

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"I never saw it, I'd like to see that."

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Then they could vote in, either by the internet or phone,

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to say, "I'd like to vote for this programme."

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Tell me about the trial.

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I think it were real handsome of you

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to speak up for him.

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Many wouldn't have done it.

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He'd have been better off if I'd stayed at home.

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I didn't do it right.

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I should have...flattered them more,

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talked of us gentlemen.

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Of course, delving into the archive can be a complicated business,

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and it usually boils down to money.

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Obviously there'll be problems

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for some programmes, with repeat fees, royalties and so on,

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but there must be some way around

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allowing older programmes to be shown.

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-Morning, Frank.

-Morning.

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One of the cylinders is spluttering.

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Soot on the spark plug, I think. I had a look at it.

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It's all right now.

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It our BBC. We pay for it.

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They've got programmes which a lot of us would like to see again,

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so let the people choose what we're going to see repeated.

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This week saw a new live studio show begin on BBC One.

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It was called That's Britain,

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and apparently, that's a shame.

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On this show, your words count,

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because this is our Word Wall. Too-doo-doo!

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AUDIENCE COOS

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Yes, we know it often feels as if you're talking to the wall.

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On That's Britain, you are.

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Money is still pouring in for Children In Need,

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with a total edging £27 million,

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and last week's extravaganza raised a record amount on the night.

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A personal favourite for many

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was when Lord Sugar entered the Dragons' Den.

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What have you dragged me out here for, anyway?

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Who has a business meeting

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in a knackered old warehouse, chains everywhere?

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Get a grip! This is not The Long Good Friday.

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But it's Lord Sugar's current day job with Young Apprentice

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that's going down well, with at least one young entrepreneur.

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I believe The Apprentice is the best programme

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the British Broadcasting Company has ever produced.

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It's truly fantastic. Alan Sugar is absolutely amazing.

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When it's time for the boardroom,

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it's left me engrossed in the television, shrieking.

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The programme has truly inspired me, and has left me...

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..desperately wanting to fulfil my entrepreneurial dreams.

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Even at this early stage, Jake,

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I sense you may have caught Lord Sugar's eye.

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To another viewer, Lex Harrison, who's done what I do, but better.

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He sent us an e-mail headed "The Ups And Downs Of The BBC,"

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and basically summed up the whole week's postbag for us.

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Who would have thought you could have changed so many women's lives

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by teaching us how to sing?

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This has been an unforgettable experience,

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which we are all so proud to be a part of.

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So here is our thank-you to you, and we hope you enjoy it.

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PIANO MUSIC

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# You're nothing special

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# In fact you're a bit of a bore

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LAUGHTER

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# You're just a bit of a bore, you know

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# When you tell a joke

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# We've probably heard it before... #

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Yeah, that's fair.

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# Must have heard it before, oh, yeah... #

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Thank you, Lex.

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Military Wives has undoubtedly been

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one of the most appreciated programmes this autumn.

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Now, next week, the controller of the BBC's naughty teenager,

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officially known as BBC Three, is in our hot seat.

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To put questions to him or draw our attention to anything else,

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here's the address.

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There's also an e-mail address,

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and you can let rip on the messageboard.

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Or give us a ring. Calls are charged at a local rate from a landline.

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Here is the number for you.

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Until next week, when we're back on BBC One, goodbye.

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Jeremy Vine hosts the weekly round-up of audience feedback on BBC television programmes.

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