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Good afternoon and welcome to Points Of View. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:13 | |
Saturday nights have now settled in for the winter | 0:00:13 | 0:00:16 | |
with the fireside pairing of Strictly Come Dancing and Merlin. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:20 | |
But their appearance has meant the departure of Doctor Who, | 0:00:20 | 0:00:23 | |
a confusingly early departure for some. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:26 | |
With many listings magazines | 0:01:04 | 0:01:07 | |
describing Doctor Who's swift September outing | 0:01:07 | 0:01:11 | |
as episode one to five of 13, | 0:01:11 | 0:01:13 | |
some fans were hoodwinked into thinking the Doctor would be making | 0:01:13 | 0:01:16 | |
weekly house calls right up until the end of November. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:19 | |
But the Doctor has actually caught the Americanism | 0:01:19 | 0:01:22 | |
of arriving in seasons. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:25 | |
So while this block of stories was made in one go, | 0:01:25 | 0:01:27 | |
it is being shown in short bursts. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:29 | |
The current run saw plots centre on Amy, angels, cowboys, | 0:01:29 | 0:01:34 | |
-cubes, Daleks and dinosaurs. -Ooh! | 0:01:34 | 0:01:38 | |
So that's A to D covered. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:41 | |
And it would appear to be a case of, | 0:01:41 | 0:01:42 | |
"Stay tuned for the rest of the alphabet." | 0:01:42 | 0:01:44 | |
The Doctor's absence, though irritating, is only temporary. | 0:01:44 | 0:01:49 | |
But total confusion surrounded the launch of Merlin. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:52 | |
A dramatic trailer had the desired effect, | 0:01:52 | 0:01:55 | |
leading many viewers to make a date in their diary, | 0:01:55 | 0:01:57 | |
except there wasn't a date. | 0:01:57 | 0:01:58 | |
Merlin, starts Saturday the 8th of October on BBC One and BBC One HD. | 0:01:58 | 0:02:03 | |
There is no Saturday the 8th of October until 2016. | 0:02:03 | 0:02:07 | |
Yesterday was Saturday the 6th of October. | 0:02:07 | 0:02:10 | |
And we thought the fictional stuff was limited to the programme! | 0:02:10 | 0:02:13 | |
So it would appear there is somebody at the BBC whose job is to type | 0:02:13 | 0:02:16 | |
the correct date over the top of a clip from Merlin and they didn't manage it. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:20 | |
Luckily, the cast and crew have been paying more attention to detail. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:25 | |
CASTS SPELL IN OLD ENGLISH | 0:02:30 | 0:02:36 | |
What happened? | 0:02:42 | 0:02:45 | |
I think those people were definitely rearing their heads in the beginning | 0:03:06 | 0:03:09 | |
and saying, "This is not how it's supposed to be." | 0:03:09 | 0:03:13 | |
But then, I think, having given them time to watch the series | 0:03:13 | 0:03:17 | |
and see what we've done with it, | 0:03:17 | 0:03:19 | |
I think they actually quite like it now, | 0:03:19 | 0:03:21 | |
and they've accepted that it's not trying to be historically accurate. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:24 | |
And after all, it is just a story. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:27 | |
It's a tale about magic and all that kind of stuff, and sorcery and dragons. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:33 | |
And so, in a way, I think there is scope to change it up a bit | 0:03:33 | 0:03:36 | |
and make it more a bit more kind of appeal to a modern audience. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:40 | |
A lot's changed. Obviously I'm Queen now, which is quite exciting! | 0:03:45 | 0:03:48 | |
And, yes, some really exciting stories. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:51 | |
# No-one's going to take me alive... # | 0:03:51 | 0:03:56 | |
I'll have some fond memories of the show when we finish. And that's... | 0:04:26 | 0:04:29 | |
I can be proud of them. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:30 | |
Who? | 0:04:30 | 0:04:31 | |
We need to rest. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:34 | |
The challenge is to not let it go stale. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:38 | |
I think as soon as it does that, you've got to stop. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:41 | |
So that was history, if a rather whimsical version. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:52 | |
And next it is double chemistry for you. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:54 | |
As with many complex academic studies, | 0:04:54 | 0:04:57 | |
Bluffer's Guides have been issued to help those struggling. | 0:04:57 | 0:05:00 | |
And Top Gear team-mate James May is delivering the TV equivalent | 0:05:00 | 0:05:04 | |
of the Bluffer's Guide with his Things You Need To Know series. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:08 | |
But, sadly, the chemistry episode did not earn him a gold star. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:13 | |
As a chemistry teacher, I was looking forward to | 0:05:13 | 0:05:15 | |
James May's Things You Need To Know About Chemistry. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:17 | |
I was extremely disappointed, however, | 0:05:17 | 0:05:19 | |
to see a completely incorrect structure for ethanoic acid | 0:05:19 | 0:05:21 | |
shown in a graphic more than once. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:23 | |
Carbon should only have four bonds, whereas this clearly shows five. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:26 | |
The correct structure should be this. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:28 | |
Errors in chemical formulae were featured throughout the programme. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:31 | |
In an animation of the periodic table, | 0:05:31 | 0:05:33 | |
the terms mass number and atomic number were completely confused. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
These are not the same thing. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:38 | |
Chemistry is an area students find very difficult. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:40 | |
I feel this programme fed many misconceptions | 0:05:40 | 0:05:42 | |
that exist in the subject. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:44 | |
It was absolutely chock-full of errors. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:46 | |
In the first two minutes I counted at least five, | 0:05:46 | 0:05:49 | |
the worst of which was probably the structure of vinegar, | 0:05:49 | 0:05:52 | |
or actually acetic acid, that was shown, | 0:05:52 | 0:05:54 | |
which appeared to have a carbon with five bonds coming off it. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:57 | |
Now, this may seem like nitpicking, but any A-level chemistry student | 0:05:57 | 0:06:01 | |
should know that carbons always have four bonds. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:04 | |
It's really a fundamental error. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:06 | |
It's is rather like getting the date of the Battle of Hastings wrong | 0:06:06 | 0:06:09 | |
in a history programme. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:11 | |
It's just not acceptable. Really, this could have all been overcome | 0:06:11 | 0:06:14 | |
if someone had just fact-checked the programme correctly. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:17 | |
Mark and Kate, you have both got a future in film making | 0:06:17 | 0:06:21 | |
if the chemistry career evaporates. But what of this carbon clanger? | 0:06:21 | 0:06:26 | |
We had a consultant who was a chemistry professor, | 0:06:26 | 0:06:29 | |
who was going over all of the scripts | 0:06:29 | 0:06:31 | |
and also supplied those formulas and those visuals to the animators. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:35 | |
But as you suggested, the animators themselves | 0:06:35 | 0:06:37 | |
didn't quite concentrate as hard as they should have done | 0:06:37 | 0:06:40 | |
on absolutely rendering accurately the images that they'd been given. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:43 | |
And what we didn't do is we didn't get the consultant | 0:06:43 | 0:06:45 | |
to double-check the pictures once the programme had been completed. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:49 | |
A real mistake, and something we'll make sure doesn't happen again. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:52 | |
But I should say that in that context, it's really important for us | 0:06:52 | 0:06:55 | |
to be getting things right. But on the other hand, it might sound odd, | 0:06:55 | 0:06:59 | |
but actually we're really grateful | 0:06:59 | 0:07:00 | |
to all of the people who wrote in and pointed out the errors to us, | 0:07:00 | 0:07:03 | |
because we're always wanting to get things right | 0:07:03 | 0:07:06 | |
and we always welcome everything that the audience as to say. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:08 | |
If they've got any comments or criticisms, | 0:07:08 | 0:07:10 | |
they should really understand that we're listening and we'll do | 0:07:10 | 0:07:13 | |
whatever we can to correct anything that comes up. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:15 | |
So don't use James May's carbon emissions | 0:07:15 | 0:07:17 | |
to bluff your way in chemistry - they might blow up in your face. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:20 | |
Oh, and regarding fact-checking, | 0:07:20 | 0:07:22 | |
the shop floor costume drama The Paradise | 0:07:22 | 0:07:26 | |
has given one of our viewers a very un-heavenly feeling. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:29 | |
Watch closely here | 0:07:29 | 0:07:31 | |
and see if you can guess what the complaint is about. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:34 | |
Oh, so many temptations. I can't make up my mind. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:41 | |
Miss Audrey, where's the girl who helped me last time I was here? | 0:07:41 | 0:07:44 | |
Ah, Denise. Denise, make yourself visible. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:47 | |
-You MUST have her, Jocelyn. She is quite something. -How may I help you, ladies? | 0:07:47 | 0:07:52 | |
I feel I could purchase everything I lay my eyes on. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:54 | |
Isn't it wonderful? | 0:07:54 | 0:07:57 | |
That's a very good spot, Dee, | 0:08:16 | 0:08:18 | |
but perhaps it's a more understandable oversight | 0:08:18 | 0:08:20 | |
than the chemistry clanger. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:22 | |
Unless, of course, you are a professional archivist | 0:08:22 | 0:08:25 | |
or genealogist, like the experts on Who Do You Think You Are? | 0:08:25 | 0:08:29 | |
They stand accused of working part-time this series | 0:08:29 | 0:08:33 | |
and only researching back for one generation. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:35 | |
So have the Who Do team thrown away their really big long shovels | 0:08:57 | 0:09:01 | |
and swapped them with tiny trowels? Are they not digging deep enough? | 0:09:01 | 0:09:05 | |
It's unfortunate that both stories | 0:09:07 | 0:09:08 | |
that featured World War II | 0:09:08 | 0:09:10 | |
were transmitted fairly close together in this series, | 0:09:10 | 0:09:13 | |
but what you'll find is for the rest of the run, | 0:09:13 | 0:09:16 | |
we've got stories that go back three or four, five generations into the 19th century | 0:09:16 | 0:09:20 | |
and, in fact, one story set virtually in the 17th century. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:24 | |
What we try and do is pick the most compelling and interesting stories to tell | 0:09:24 | 0:09:28 | |
from that person's family tree. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:29 | |
So Who Do You Think You Are will be investigating family trees | 0:09:29 | 0:09:33 | |
beyond the World Wars in future, then. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:35 | |
But it seems much of the rest of the BBC is still caught up | 0:09:35 | 0:09:38 | |
in something of a wartime obsession. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:41 | |
That was a comprehensive list, Jack, | 0:10:04 | 0:10:05 | |
but you've actually missed out BBC Four's offerings - | 0:10:05 | 0:10:08 | |
The Nazis: A Warning From History and Surviving Hitler. | 0:10:08 | 0:10:11 | |
Still, I take your point. | 0:10:11 | 0:10:13 | |
Some subjects are revisited time and again by programme makers. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:18 | |
Not only that, viewers often tell us | 0:10:18 | 0:10:20 | |
they see the same faces presenting those programs time and again | 0:10:20 | 0:10:24 | |
and maybe there could be some fresh thinking there? | 0:10:24 | 0:10:26 | |
I was out with my friend and we were thinking about presenting, | 0:10:26 | 0:10:30 | |
both radio and TV, | 0:10:30 | 0:10:32 | |
and we were asking why we don't see new people on | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
and we wondered whether that was pay or whether it was experience, | 0:10:35 | 0:10:38 | |
or whether the audience didn't know them, | 0:10:38 | 0:10:40 | |
and we wanted to find out if there was something that could be done about that. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:44 | |
Our strategy in Knowledge is to maintain a really vibrant mix | 0:10:44 | 0:10:50 | |
of established and new talent all the time. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:54 | |
What we try and do is deliver to audiences | 0:10:54 | 0:10:57 | |
people that they love and know and respect and have cherished, | 0:10:57 | 0:11:01 | |
but also introduce new takes, new insights, | 0:11:01 | 0:11:06 | |
new knowledge, I suppose. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:08 | |
There was a recent BBC Four programme over the summer | 0:11:08 | 0:11:11 | |
and it included a man called Dr James Fox, | 0:11:11 | 0:11:14 | |
who gave a presentation about blue, white and gold in terms of art | 0:11:14 | 0:11:18 | |
and he was really enthusiastic, | 0:11:18 | 0:11:20 | |
clearly very knowledgeable, and it was a great programme. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:24 | |
The unique thing about blue is that it is all around us | 0:11:24 | 0:11:29 | |
and yet somehow it feels for ever out of reach. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:33 | |
He first came to our notice through his students, actually. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:38 | |
He's a Cambridge art historian and his students wrote in and said | 0:11:38 | 0:11:42 | |
what a fabulous TV presenter they thought he would be. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:44 | |
So you can really understand why people loved this substance so much. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:48 | |
I do recognise that not every expert is particularly good in front of the camera. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:53 | |
Licence fee payers' money should be used on bringing on new talent, | 0:11:53 | 0:11:56 | |
it shouldn't be about exorbitantly paying people | 0:11:56 | 0:11:59 | |
who think they're famous enough to charge for it or demand it. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:02 | |
It's really easy for budding presenters to send us | 0:12:02 | 0:12:05 | |
a bit of tape or go on to the commissioning website | 0:12:05 | 0:12:09 | |
and send us a link with something they've shot themselves. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:12 | |
It's quite a big ask, being good at being both passionate | 0:12:12 | 0:12:17 | |
and having something genuinely new and different to say, | 0:12:17 | 0:12:22 | |
and so I think combining that approach, which we're very open to, | 0:12:22 | 0:12:26 | |
with some of the more expert views held here in Knowledge Commissioning | 0:12:26 | 0:12:32 | |
about what works in terms of television presenting, | 0:12:32 | 0:12:34 | |
I think that probably provides quite a good balance for the audience. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:38 | |
And active hunt for new presenters in some programme areas, then. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:42 | |
Get your show reels in! | 0:12:42 | 0:12:43 | |
But if you'd rather it was just your comments that appear on the air, write to us. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:47 | |
You're also more than welcome to email. Here's the address for that. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:55 | |
Or you can jump on the message board, which is at... | 0:12:57 | 0:13:02 | |
And you could phone us too. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:03 | |
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Now, many of you wrote some weeks ago at the news of the death | 0:13:10 | 0:13:14 | |
of the antiques expert David Barby from Bargain Hunt, | 0:13:14 | 0:13:17 | |
complaining that the BBC hadn't really aired any form of tribute programme | 0:13:17 | 0:13:21 | |
and contacted us again this week when your calls were heard | 0:13:21 | 0:13:26 | |
and a touching celebration of his work was broadcast. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:30 | |
David Barby, no longer with us but still loved. Goodbye. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:45 | |
Subtitles by Red Bee Media Ltd | 0:13:45 | 0:13:48 |