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Good afternoon and welcome to Points Of View, | 0:00:10 | 0:00:13 | |
your chance to review the programmes | 0:00:13 | 0:00:16 | |
you've been watching on the BBC over the past week. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:19 | |
But, unusually, we are starting this week with a programme | 0:00:19 | 0:00:22 | |
you didn't actually get to watch. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:24 | |
'..A change to the schedule, | 0:00:24 | 0:00:26 | |
'as we meet the father of modern archaeology.' | 0:00:26 | 0:00:28 | |
Jerusalem: An Archaeological Mystery Story | 0:00:28 | 0:00:32 | |
was pulled from BBC Four schedules | 0:00:32 | 0:00:34 | |
before it was due to air on Thursday last week. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:38 | |
And the scheduled repeat of the programme, | 0:00:38 | 0:00:40 | |
which should've gone out on Monday of this week, met the same fate. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:43 | |
'..A change to some billings here on BBC Four...' | 0:00:43 | 0:00:46 | |
The Jerusalem programme was billed as having new evidence | 0:00:46 | 0:00:49 | |
that would suggest the majority of Jewish people may not have been exiled | 0:00:49 | 0:00:53 | |
after the fall of Jerusalem more than 2,000 years ago in 70AD. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:58 | |
The documentary had been planned as part of an archaeology series on the channel. | 0:00:58 | 0:01:03 | |
The decision to pull the programme has created a storm. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:07 | |
Many of you who got in touch want to know why that decision was taken. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:11 | |
I belong to Pax Christi UK, | 0:01:11 | 0:01:13 | |
which is a Catholic peace organisation | 0:01:13 | 0:01:16 | |
which is involved in looking at various issues of peace and justice. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:20 | |
In this instance, looking at the issues raised | 0:01:20 | 0:01:24 | |
by the situation in Palestine and Israel. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:27 | |
We work alongside Israeli and Palestinian peace organisations. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:32 | |
I sat down to watch Jerusalem - An Archaeological Mystery Story, | 0:01:32 | 0:01:37 | |
because I was interested both in the archaeology, | 0:01:37 | 0:01:39 | |
but also in the issues that it raised. | 0:01:39 | 0:01:42 | |
So, having made sure that I was in time to sit down and watch it, | 0:01:42 | 0:01:45 | |
turned it on, and found that, without explanation, | 0:01:45 | 0:01:47 | |
a different programme was being shown. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:49 | |
The reason that the BBC gave seemed incredibly implausible, | 0:01:49 | 0:01:53 | |
because, I don't think, from a practical point of view, | 0:01:53 | 0:01:56 | |
you would, at that last minute, decide, | 0:01:56 | 0:01:58 | |
after all the planning that goes into programming, | 0:01:58 | 0:02:00 | |
that this was something that didn't fit in with the long-term plans you'd had. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:05 | |
It seemed to me more like a very last-minute knee-jerk reaction, | 0:02:05 | 0:02:10 | |
possibly to complaints about the programme being aired. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:13 | |
So, we went right to the top of the channel, | 0:02:13 | 0:02:16 | |
to the man with ultimate control | 0:02:16 | 0:02:18 | |
over what does and doesn't make it to air on BBC Four - | 0:02:18 | 0:02:21 | |
that's channel controller, Richard Klein - to request an interview. | 0:02:21 | 0:02:25 | |
And he declined. Instead, we were given this statement. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:27 | |
It seems, for now, that this one has an uncertain ending. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:03 | |
Another programme which left some wondering, "Where's it gone?" | 0:03:03 | 0:03:06 | |
was The Prisoners. Fans tuned in to BBC One on Monday evening | 0:03:06 | 0:03:10 | |
expecting to see the third | 0:03:10 | 0:03:12 | |
and final episode of the observational documentary series | 0:03:12 | 0:03:16 | |
which looks at life in two of our major prisons. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:20 | |
In the slot instead was the BBC's monthly search | 0:03:20 | 0:03:23 | |
for those not yet in jail, Crimewatch. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:25 | |
So, what happened? Where have The Prisoners gone? | 0:03:26 | 0:03:29 | |
We asked head of scheduling, Dan McGolpin. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:32 | |
The Prisoners was planned to play in three consecutive weeks, | 0:03:32 | 0:03:35 | |
but on the day that episode one was due to transmit, | 0:03:35 | 0:03:39 | |
Baroness Thatcher died, | 0:03:39 | 0:03:40 | |
and the BBC decided to show an obituary programme | 0:03:40 | 0:03:44 | |
for the life of Margaret Thatcher. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:46 | |
So, that was put on that evening instead of the first episode. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:49 | |
The series knocked back to the following week. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:52 | |
But it wasn't possible to do it for three weeks after that, | 0:03:52 | 0:03:54 | |
because in the third week, we had already booked Crimewatch | 0:03:54 | 0:03:57 | |
and Crimewatch had a studio booked, | 0:03:57 | 0:03:58 | |
police force booked and all the presenters booked. | 0:03:58 | 0:04:01 | |
So, actually, we had to have a gap in a series. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:04 | |
We put it back on the next available opportunity, which May 13th. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:07 | |
So, next Monday, the third episode of Prisoners will be on. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:09 | |
The good news is this one has not been locked up indefinitely and will now air. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:15 | |
OK, to cooking. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:17 | |
After 23 episodes, all of which went out, you'll be glad to hear, | 0:04:17 | 0:04:21 | |
MasterChef finally announced its, well, master chef for 2013. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:26 | |
It's Natalie. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:29 | |
Congratulations, Natalie. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:32 | |
You must be delighted. But viewers were less than happy with the way | 0:04:32 | 0:04:36 | |
some of the contributors were treated by the judges. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:38 | |
What you've done today, Dale, is try to go too far left-field. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:43 | |
You can't keep on reinventing the wheel, Dale. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:46 | |
OK, don't worry, mate, don't worry. You're all right. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:52 | |
And it wasn't just poor old Dale. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:02 | |
Larkin got the hairdryer treatment as well. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:04 | |
We have two different flavoured sludges. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:08 | |
I'm sorry, Larkin. But I'm not going to taste that. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:11 | |
Guest judge Marcus Wareing holding back on the taste test, | 0:05:11 | 0:05:14 | |
but not on his criticism. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:16 | |
Some food for thought there for programme-makers. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:29 | |
We like our creative dishes, but not necessarily served up with anger. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:33 | |
Now, one man who never saw the need to get angry over his specialist subject | 0:05:33 | 0:05:38 | |
was the astronomer Sir Patrick Moore, who sadly died in December. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:42 | |
But, of course, his Sky At Night programme lives on. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:44 | |
And we went behind-the-scenes for you with the team | 0:05:44 | 0:05:47 | |
to find out how they are keeping his spirit alive, | 0:05:47 | 0:05:50 | |
putting some of your questions and comments to the series producer. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:54 | |
The Sky At Night was first on air on the 24th April 1957, | 0:05:57 | 0:06:01 | |
presented by Patrick Moore... | 0:06:01 | 0:06:03 | |
-Good evening. -..who continually presented it | 0:06:03 | 0:06:07 | |
until, really, the day he died. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:09 | |
Let's begin our tour between the planets. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:12 | |
It was his baby, it was his legacy. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:15 | |
Almost anything may happen at any moment... ..Aerodynamically shaped. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:19 | |
We are never going to be able to replace Patrick. He is irreplaceable. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:25 | |
Good night. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:27 | |
I did ask him, on a couple of occasions, about what he wanted | 0:06:28 | 0:06:32 | |
to happen to the programme, after he couldn't make it any more. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:36 | |
He was absolutely adamant that he wanted the programme to go on. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:40 | |
This is just incredible! This is like the EastEnders credits. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:50 | |
We are in a strange building just outside Oxford, near Didcot. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:54 | |
This is a place for UK companies | 0:06:54 | 0:06:55 | |
and researchers who want to control satellites. | 0:06:55 | 0:06:59 | |
We've come here because we wanted to use their big screen | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
in order to film the 726th episode of The Sky At Night. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:05 | |
Action. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:07 | |
Weren't we lucky to get clear skies? Let's hope we get good weather... | 0:07:07 | 0:07:12 | |
The current team are people who Patrick more or less picked | 0:07:12 | 0:07:15 | |
and nurtured and brought on. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:17 | |
And he was quite happy that they carry on the programme | 0:07:17 | 0:07:20 | |
after he couldn't make it any more. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:22 | |
The question we keep getting is, how do we step into Patrick's shoes | 0:07:22 | 0:07:25 | |
now he's not here to guide us on The Sky At Night? | 0:07:25 | 0:07:27 | |
At the first thing I want to say is that we don't. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:30 | |
For starters, they're big shoes. They are size 13. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:32 | |
But more than that, there won't be another Patrick Moore. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:35 | |
No-one can replace that. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:37 | |
It's amazing to think what might be going on beneath these clouds. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:41 | |
'We've got to get our own trust from the audience.' | 0:07:41 | 0:07:44 | |
Suddenly to step out and know that it was going to sink or fail | 0:07:44 | 0:07:48 | |
on what WE said was daunting. But, hopefully, people are enjoying it. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:52 | |
We are now going to Hampshire... | 0:07:52 | 0:07:54 | |
That was the one. Well done, everybody. | 0:07:54 | 0:07:56 | |
We have a very dedicated audience who are searching us out | 0:07:56 | 0:07:59 | |
and find us and watch us, so what they've got to say about us | 0:07:59 | 0:08:03 | |
is something that I'm very excited to hear. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:05 | |
"With the demise of Sir Patrick, The Sky At Night last Sunday..." | 0:08:05 | 0:08:09 | |
Good night. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:19 | |
I have the Sun, which is at the centre of the solar system... | 0:08:21 | 0:08:24 | |
This is something we've used before, it isn't something new. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:35 | |
It was something that Patrick really enjoyed using. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:38 | |
He often held up the Sun and the other planets. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:41 | |
Here is a globe to represent Uranus. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:43 | |
And here's a globe to represent the Earth on the same scale. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:47 | |
It's a lemon and two hoops. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:49 | |
The lemon, as you'll immediately realise, represents the Sun. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:52 | |
We don't have a fantastic graphics budget on The Sky At Night, | 0:08:52 | 0:08:56 | |
we do have to improvise. | 0:08:56 | 0:08:57 | |
We do have to come up with interesting ways of doing it | 0:08:57 | 0:09:00 | |
which sometimes explain things better than some fancy graphic. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:05 | |
Water coming out of the watering can is the solar wind | 0:09:05 | 0:09:08 | |
being thrown out from the Sun at a million miles an hour. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:11 | |
-AS PATRICK MOORE: -Sir Patrick Moore, of course, | 0:09:24 | 0:09:27 | |
capturing the fascination of astronomy beautifully like that. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:30 | |
We do want to keep that eccentricity up, | 0:09:30 | 0:09:33 | |
I think that Jon does offer valuable input into the presenting team. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:37 | |
He's a guest on the programme, we love having him, | 0:09:37 | 0:09:40 | |
he loves being on the show, and as long as the audience loves him, | 0:09:40 | 0:09:43 | |
hopefully we'll be seeing more of Jon over the next few months. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:46 | |
In 1957, The Sky At Night began. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:49 | |
They asked me to present the show. Well, I'll do the best I can. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:52 | |
We are moving forward, without Patrick, | 0:09:52 | 0:09:54 | |
and that is incredibly difficult. We all miss him tremendously. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:59 | |
Some of the things that we do | 0:09:59 | 0:10:00 | |
are bound to need a little bit of bedding-in time, | 0:10:00 | 0:10:03 | |
just keep feeding back to us what you feel works | 0:10:03 | 0:10:05 | |
or what you feel doesn't work, and we'll keep working with it. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:10 | |
We're the longest-running show in the world! Good night. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:14 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:10:14 | 0:10:16 | |
Another one-off was the comedian Dave Allen. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:20 | |
This week, a BBC Two documentary looked back on his life and career | 0:10:20 | 0:10:24 | |
and showed us that the man whom we knew for sitting in a chair | 0:10:24 | 0:10:27 | |
and telling jokes, had lot of other strings to his bow. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:31 | |
'Welcome, Dave Allen!' APPLAUSE | 0:10:31 | 0:10:33 | |
An elephant going across a road. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:35 | |
Every time he puts his foot on it, | 0:10:35 | 0:10:36 | |
it's like - eeee! Cars. Eeeee! Cars. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:38 | |
Fellow goes up and he says, "There's a zebra crossing up there." | 0:10:38 | 0:10:41 | |
He says, "I hope he's having better luck than me." | 0:10:41 | 0:10:43 | |
Sir Patrick Moore and Dave Allen, | 0:10:57 | 0:10:59 | |
it's like a flashback to the 1970s here this week! | 0:10:59 | 0:11:02 | |
But this next one goes back far further, | 0:11:02 | 0:11:05 | |
to a time when mighty castles were scattered all over England. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:10 | |
Or is that Scotland? | 0:11:10 | 0:11:11 | |
I'm in the Northumberland National Park. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:14 | |
The area has more castles than any other county in England. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:17 | |
But Northumberland's claim to be home to more castles | 0:11:17 | 0:11:20 | |
than any other county in England is not really the point here. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:23 | |
It's that the castle Countryfile chose to represent the county | 0:11:23 | 0:11:26 | |
was, in fact, Scottish. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:29 | |
Tantallon Castle in East Lothian, definitely not English. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:33 | |
Well, we pointed out the mistake. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:56 | |
This is what the team had to say. | 0:11:56 | 0:11:58 | |
That's almost it for this week but just before I sign off, | 0:12:05 | 0:12:08 | |
we promised that we would address to your complaints over how | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
Points Of View has been moving about the schedules | 0:12:11 | 0:12:14 | |
since we returned for our new series at the start of April. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:18 | |
In just five weeks, our time slot has jumped across three hours | 0:12:18 | 0:12:22 | |
on the Sunday afternoon schedule. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:24 | |
It has been a bit of a game of hide-and-seek for our loyal viewers. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:27 | |
So, why is Points Of View not being given a fixed point | 0:12:36 | 0:12:39 | |
at which it can be viewed? | 0:12:39 | 0:12:41 | |
Here is the man who does the scheduling again. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:43 | |
There have been a couple of changes to the BBC One schedule | 0:12:43 | 0:12:46 | |
over the last year or so. EastEnders omnibus has moved | 0:12:46 | 0:12:49 | |
and we have a different Grand Prix deal now, | 0:12:49 | 0:12:52 | |
which means BBC One takes Grand Prix highlights quite often | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
around Sunday teatime. So, we are moving the schedule around a bit. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:58 | |
We've considered playing Points Of View next to The Politics Show | 0:12:58 | 0:13:02 | |
at Sunday lunchtimes which we thought would be a good thing for viewers, | 0:13:02 | 0:13:05 | |
that people would enjoy both those shows, | 0:13:05 | 0:13:07 | |
and we tried different things with this run. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:09 | |
We'll look at the end of the run, | 0:13:09 | 0:13:10 | |
see what's worked, what's worked for viewers, | 0:13:10 | 0:13:12 | |
and decide how best to schedule for the next run in the autumn. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:15 | |
It sounds like, in the short-term, | 0:13:15 | 0:13:17 | |
there won't be a fixed Points Of View slot. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:20 | |
It is changed again for next week | 0:13:20 | 0:13:22 | |
because we are on at the later time of 3.15, | 0:13:22 | 0:13:25 | |
to make way for Formula 1 coverage. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:27 | |
But one thing doesn't change - our desire to hear your views. | 0:13:27 | 0:13:31 | |
You can get them to us in the following ways. By post... | 0:13:31 | 0:13:36 | |
By phone, the number is charged as a local rate call from any landline. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:44 | |
You can join the messageboarders... | 0:13:48 | 0:13:52 | |
or finally, write an e-mail. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:55 | |
That's it from us. Goodbye. | 0:13:57 | 0:13:59 | |
Subtitles by Red Bee Media Ltd | 0:14:02 | 0:14:05 |