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Hello. Jeremy Clarkson, a licence fee loophole and zombies - | 9:30:50 | 9:30:53 | |
all just part of your week on the BBC. | 9:30:53 | 9:30:56 | |
This is the show where the viewers take over the airwaves | 9:30:56 | 9:30:59 | |
and you have your say. | 9:30:59 | 9:31:01 | |
Welcome to Points Of View. | 9:31:01 | 9:31:03 | |
Good afternoon. First there was the controversy over this, | 9:31:13 | 9:31:16 | |
Top Gear's Jeremy Clarkson appearing to use a racist word - | 9:31:16 | 9:31:21 | |
and a warning that you may be offended here. | 9:31:21 | 9:31:24 | |
HE MUTTERS Eeny, meeny, miny, moe, catch a nigger by his toe... | 9:31:24 | 9:31:27 | |
Which led to him issuing this online. | 9:31:27 | 9:31:30 | |
If you listen very carefully with the sound turned right up, | 9:31:30 | 9:31:34 | |
it did appear that I'd actually used the word I was trying to obscure. | 9:31:34 | 9:31:40 | |
I was mortified by this, horrified. It is a word I loathe. | 9:31:40 | 9:31:45 | |
And I did everything in my power to make sure that that version | 9:31:45 | 9:31:48 | |
did not appear in the programme that was transmitted. | 9:31:48 | 9:31:52 | |
Please be assured, I did everything in my power to not use that word, | 9:31:52 | 9:31:58 | |
and, as I'm sitting here begging your forgiveness for the fact that | 9:31:58 | 9:32:03 | |
obviously my efforts weren't quite good enough. | 9:32:03 | 9:32:06 | |
And then, before the dust had time to settle, there was the news | 9:32:06 | 9:32:10 | |
that the motoring series is being investigated by the media regulator Ofcom for THIS remark - | 9:32:10 | 9:32:16 | |
and another warning here that the language used might offend. | 9:32:16 | 9:32:20 | |
That is a proud moment. | 9:32:24 | 9:32:27 | |
But... | 9:32:27 | 9:32:28 | |
there's a slope on it. | 9:32:28 | 9:32:30 | |
You're right. It's definitely higher on that side. | 9:32:32 | 9:32:35 | |
Now, many of you have been in touch over this - | 9:32:36 | 9:32:38 | |
some to support, some to condemn - | 9:32:38 | 9:32:41 | |
and we've got a few of your roadside views. | 9:32:41 | 9:32:44 | |
For me, Jeremy Clarkson, the programme wouldn't work without him. | 9:32:44 | 9:32:48 | |
I'll be quite honest with you, | 9:32:48 | 9:32:49 | |
the BBC, if they'd taken any form of punitive action | 9:32:49 | 9:32:54 | |
with regards to his job, I think that | 9:32:54 | 9:32:56 | |
they'd be losing an institution that is very, very well founded. | 9:32:56 | 9:33:01 | |
I don't believe he's racist. He's just making remarks. | 9:33:01 | 9:33:05 | |
He didn't actually, from what I understand, say the word, | 9:33:05 | 9:33:08 | |
and it's an old rhyme that's been around hundreds of years, and... | 9:33:08 | 9:33:12 | |
I don't know, just sometimes he says things without thinking, doesn't he? | 9:33:13 | 9:33:16 | |
I don't think the BBC's decision to let him off is a good idea, | 9:33:16 | 9:33:20 | |
because I think as a journalist he should be aware of what he's saying | 9:33:20 | 9:33:23 | |
and know that everything is on camera, and so | 9:33:23 | 9:33:27 | |
he shouldn't be saying things that he thinks or hopes that won't be heard, | 9:33:27 | 9:33:31 | |
and I think he should probably have been reprimanded more strongly, | 9:33:31 | 9:33:35 | |
because I don't think it's the first time that he's done something wrong. | 9:33:35 | 9:33:38 | |
It hasn't changed my opinion of Jeremy Clarkson at all. | 9:33:38 | 9:33:42 | |
I don't like him particularly, I think he's obnoxious, | 9:33:42 | 9:33:46 | |
but I think he's made a mistake and it's just a genuine mistake. | 9:33:46 | 9:33:50 | |
And it could happen to anyone | 9:33:50 | 9:33:51 | |
standing in front of a camera, I suppose! | 9:33:51 | 9:33:54 | |
I think it's great that he made these comments | 9:33:54 | 9:33:56 | |
because then everyone can review how we feel about racism. | 9:33:56 | 9:34:00 | |
So in a funny sort of a way I think it works out, | 9:34:00 | 9:34:03 | |
that we all can discuss how we feel about colour and everything else | 9:34:03 | 9:34:07 | |
and different cultures and what have you. So actually it's a good thing. | 9:34:07 | 9:34:10 | |
Jeremy Clarkson's a British legend. | 9:34:10 | 9:34:13 | |
I think a lot of the media give him trouble for no reason. | 9:34:13 | 9:34:16 | |
He's entitled to his opinion like the rest of the people. | 9:34:16 | 9:34:19 | |
Clarkson's Clarkson, isn't he? Proper driver. | 9:34:20 | 9:34:24 | |
Now, the view on this seems split pretty much straight down the middle. | 9:34:24 | 9:34:28 | |
For its part the BBC has said it won't be commenting on the issue | 9:34:28 | 9:34:31 | |
being investigated by Ofcom, but, on the incident where Jeremy appeared to use the N-word, | 9:34:31 | 9:34:37 | |
they gave us this statement. | 9:34:37 | 9:34:39 | |
Staying with attitudes to race - | 9:34:48 | 9:34:51 | |
and if opinions were split on Clarkson, so too have they been | 9:34:51 | 9:34:54 | |
in the debate over diversity raised on this programme last week. | 9:34:54 | 9:34:59 | |
Now, we heard from one campaigning group which is threatening to | 9:34:59 | 9:35:01 | |
boycott the TV licence if the BBC doesn't redress | 9:35:01 | 9:35:04 | |
an imbalance in the number of people from ethnic minorities it employs. | 9:35:04 | 9:35:09 | |
We appreciate that this might be against the law, | 9:35:09 | 9:35:12 | |
but after years and years of discussing the same issue, | 9:35:12 | 9:35:15 | |
we feel that there is no choice. | 9:35:15 | 9:35:17 | |
Again, lots coming in on this - and here's a sample of your views. | 9:35:17 | 9:35:21 | |
About 13% of the UK is non-white British. | 9:35:28 | 9:35:31 | |
That should therefore be a reasonable guideline | 9:35:31 | 9:35:33 | |
for the ethnic distribution of television presenters. | 9:35:33 | 9:35:36 | |
Below this and it should be rectified, | 9:35:36 | 9:35:38 | |
but if the figure is at least this, the BBC should defend its position. | 9:35:38 | 9:35:42 | |
Only a finite number of presenters are required, | 9:35:42 | 9:35:44 | |
and you have other criteria to consider, such as gender, age, | 9:35:44 | 9:35:48 | |
and national and regional representation. | 9:35:48 | 9:35:51 | |
You risk patronising some and alienating other viewers | 9:35:51 | 9:35:54 | |
if you're too anxious to please everyone. | 9:35:54 | 9:35:57 | |
Moving on, and history was made this week | 9:35:57 | 9:36:00 | |
when for the first time a complete series | 9:36:00 | 9:36:02 | |
was released on the iPlayer before being broadcast on TV. | 9:36:02 | 9:36:06 | |
If I went swimming, and a big shark came up, I could punch | 9:36:06 | 9:36:09 | |
the shark in the head and the shark would die, would just disintegrate. | 9:36:09 | 9:36:14 | |
All six episodes of the new comedy series Jonah From Tonga | 9:36:14 | 9:36:17 | |
were available to watch on the online service last weekend | 9:36:17 | 9:36:20 | |
ahead of the first episode making it onto your TVs on Thursday. | 9:36:20 | 9:36:25 | |
And this certainly is the shape of things to come, with plans | 9:36:25 | 9:36:28 | |
to move all of BBC Three's content to the iPlayer some time next year. | 9:36:28 | 9:36:33 | |
But, are people who watch solely on iPlayer being given an unfair | 9:36:33 | 9:36:37 | |
advantage, because so long as they don't watch live output, | 9:36:37 | 9:36:40 | |
they don't have to pay the licence fee? | 9:36:40 | 9:36:42 | |
Andrea Solomon certainly thinks so. | 9:36:42 | 9:36:45 | |
They give it away, free. It's ludicrous. | 9:36:45 | 9:36:48 | |
And of course it's not theirs to give away, | 9:36:48 | 9:36:51 | |
because the licence fee payer's already paid for this upfront. | 9:36:51 | 9:36:56 | |
So, erm...think again, BBC. | 9:36:56 | 9:36:58 | |
Myself and a lot of people I know don't watch TV | 9:36:58 | 9:37:01 | |
in the traditional sense any more - | 9:37:01 | 9:37:02 | |
we'll stream a show on the way to work, | 9:37:02 | 9:37:05 | |
but we won't sit down in front of a TV. | 9:37:05 | 9:37:07 | |
Now, it says on the BBC website in black and white | 9:37:07 | 9:37:10 | |
that we don't actually have to pay a TV licence for this. | 9:37:10 | 9:37:13 | |
What about if the BBC was to introduce a catch up-only licence? | 9:37:13 | 9:37:18 | |
I would happily pay it, | 9:37:18 | 9:37:20 | |
I feel like in a way it's my duty to pay it, and I feel like a lot of | 9:37:20 | 9:37:23 | |
other people should pay it as well if they're consuming BBC content. | 9:37:23 | 9:37:26 | |
Now, the top man at the BBC, Lord Tony Hall, | 9:37:26 | 9:37:29 | |
has himself spoken about this, | 9:37:29 | 9:37:31 | |
and he believes the licence fee should be modernised | 9:37:31 | 9:37:34 | |
to cover viewing of all BBC programmes, | 9:37:34 | 9:37:37 | |
whether live on TV or on demand on the iPlayer. | 9:37:37 | 9:37:40 | |
Obviously any changes to the licence fee would be decisions | 9:37:40 | 9:37:43 | |
the Government would have to make, but with growing viewing online | 9:37:43 | 9:37:47 | |
it seems that change may need to happen sooner rather than later. | 9:37:47 | 9:37:51 | |
Next up, not who pays for the TV licence | 9:37:51 | 9:37:54 | |
but what it should be used for. | 9:37:54 | 9:37:56 | |
You're always keen to tell us whether you think the licence fee is being well spent, | 9:37:56 | 9:37:59 | |
so here's one viewer who believes in the race for ratings | 9:37:59 | 9:38:02 | |
the BBC has forgotten its founding principles. | 9:38:02 | 9:38:06 | |
Hi, my name's Rich, I'm from Coventry, | 9:38:06 | 9:38:09 | |
I'm 26, and I run a software development company. | 9:38:09 | 9:38:11 | |
I personally love the BBC, | 9:38:11 | 9:38:13 | |
and I think £13 a month for the licence fee is great value for money. | 9:38:13 | 9:38:18 | |
But I don't always think the money is being spent where it should be. | 9:38:18 | 9:38:21 | |
I think the money should be spent on more innovative programmes - | 9:38:24 | 9:38:27 | |
innovative programmes like the ones that the BBC are world-famous for. | 9:38:27 | 9:38:30 | |
Play it nice and cool, son. Nice and cool, you know what I mean? | 9:38:30 | 9:38:33 | |
Only Fools And Horses, Ab Fab, Doctor Who... | 9:38:35 | 9:38:37 | |
-I never forget a face. -I know you don't. | 9:38:37 | 9:38:40 | |
..they're all programmes the BBC took a risk on. | 9:38:40 | 9:38:42 | |
By buying in formats from America like The Voice | 9:38:42 | 9:38:45 | |
they're just chasing ratings, and it ends up with BBC One looking like | 9:38:45 | 9:38:49 | |
every other broadcaster, when the BBC should be different. | 9:38:49 | 9:38:52 | |
And it really angers me to hear that BBC Three's TV channel | 9:38:54 | 9:38:57 | |
is being closed down, and its budget vastly reduced. | 9:38:57 | 9:39:01 | |
BBC Three is watched by a third of 16 to 35-year-olds currently, | 9:39:01 | 9:39:05 | |
and all of a sudden the BBC has decided that that audience | 9:39:05 | 9:39:07 | |
isn't important enough to have its own channel. | 9:39:07 | 9:39:10 | |
Instead, it would rather spend the money | 9:39:10 | 9:39:13 | |
keeping middle-aged Middle Britain glued to its TVs on a Saturday night. | 9:39:13 | 9:39:17 | |
BBC Three was not only for young people, | 9:39:17 | 9:39:18 | |
it was a launch platform for risky programmes... | 9:39:18 | 9:39:21 | |
What's occurring? | 9:39:21 | 9:39:22 | |
..like Gavin And Stacey and Little Britain. | 9:39:22 | 9:39:24 | |
Where do those risky programmes go now? | 9:39:24 | 9:39:27 | |
Vicky Pollard, stay behind. | 9:39:27 | 9:39:29 | |
-Good luck, Vicky. -Yes, thank you, Kelly. | 9:39:29 | 9:39:32 | |
I believe that over the last 90 years the BBC has done the UK proud | 9:39:32 | 9:39:35 | |
in its mission to inform, educate and entertain the nation. | 9:39:35 | 9:39:39 | |
Isn't it time that the BBC stopped spending so much of the licence fee payer's money | 9:39:46 | 9:39:49 | |
only entertaining the mainstream and chasing ratings, | 9:39:49 | 9:39:52 | |
and instead spend more of it informing and educating the wider British public? | 9:39:52 | 9:39:57 | |
Rich Bishop, expressing the anger of many over the plans to lose BBC Three off the TV schedules. | 9:39:57 | 9:40:04 | |
Now, this is one of the issues we're going to be raising with the Director of TV | 9:40:04 | 9:40:07 | |
when we interview him next month for a special Points Of View programme. | 9:40:07 | 9:40:11 | |
So if you have got a question you would like us to put to Danny Cohen, | 9:40:11 | 9:40:15 | |
please tweet it to us using @bbcpov, | 9:40:15 | 9:40:18 | |
and the hashtag "askdanny". | 9:40:18 | 9:40:21 | |
There are 3.5 million people in the UK who would not be happy at all to be up here. | 9:40:25 | 9:40:30 | |
They're the people affected by acrophobia - | 9:40:30 | 9:40:33 | |
an extreme and totally irrational fear of heights. | 9:40:33 | 9:40:37 | |
Acrophobia, the fear of heights, and the condition | 9:40:38 | 9:40:42 | |
behind an hour-long documentary titled Vertigo Road Trip on BBC One on Wednesday. Did you see it? | 9:40:42 | 9:40:48 | |
Wait a minute. VERTIGO Road Trip? | 9:40:48 | 9:40:51 | |
Well spotted, Elie - as remember, the show's presenter Mel Giedroyc pointed out... | 9:40:58 | 9:41:03 | |
Acrophobia - an extreme and totally irrational fear of heights. | 9:41:03 | 9:41:08 | |
But it wasn't just the incorrect diagnosis that got you talking on this one - | 9:41:08 | 9:41:11 | |
it was the distances the production team went to | 9:41:11 | 9:41:14 | |
to cure the fear of those taking part. | 9:41:14 | 9:41:17 | |
We've left the Alps far behind us | 9:41:17 | 9:41:19 | |
and travelled almost 3,000 miles to the United Arab Emirates. | 9:41:19 | 9:41:23 | |
Hey! How are you, boss? | 9:41:39 | 9:41:41 | |
-How are you? -I'm good. I'll just grab my stuff. | 9:41:41 | 9:41:45 | |
Another road trip, but this time a bit closer to home - | 9:41:45 | 9:41:49 | |
two likely lads took to the road for Bank Holiday Monday's | 9:41:49 | 9:41:51 | |
-When Corden Met Barlow. -Can you pop the boot? | 9:41:51 | 9:41:54 | |
What's happening? We're only going for two nights. | 9:41:54 | 9:41:56 | |
The pair of famous friends retracing pop star turned pop judge | 9:41:58 | 9:42:02 | |
Gary Barlow's rise, fall and rise again. | 9:42:02 | 9:42:07 | |
-Sorry, Gary. But I was always the talented member of the band. -CHEERING | 9:42:07 | 9:42:12 | |
Thank you very much! | 9:42:12 | 9:42:14 | |
I mean... | 9:42:16 | 9:42:17 | |
-That's all right. -It's all right NOW... -It's all right now. | 9:42:19 | 9:42:23 | |
It wasn't worse than any of the other ones, but it's just... | 9:42:23 | 9:42:30 | |
I don't want to dwell on... too much, like, "Feel sorry for me." | 9:42:30 | 9:42:34 | |
I absolutely loved When Corden Met Barlow. | 9:42:34 | 9:42:36 | |
I thought it was an amazing insight into not only Gary as a musician | 9:42:36 | 9:42:40 | |
and a songwriter, but we also got a chance to see what it was | 9:42:40 | 9:42:43 | |
really like for him during his downfall in the music industry. | 9:42:43 | 9:42:46 | |
I thought that James Corden did a brilliant job. | 9:42:46 | 9:42:49 | |
His love for Gary and Take That truly is uplifting. | 9:42:49 | 9:42:53 | |
The whole documentary was inspiring, brilliant and hilarious. | 9:42:53 | 9:42:57 | |
It was amazing to see Gary's story. | 9:42:57 | 9:43:00 | |
We all know it, but now we got to see his point | 9:43:00 | 9:43:02 | |
and how the press affected him. | 9:43:02 | 9:43:04 | |
Depression affects everyone, and it's lovely to see Gary back, | 9:43:04 | 9:43:08 | |
and back to his best. | 9:43:08 | 9:43:11 | |
-Now, have you been doing your affirmations, love? -Yep. | 9:43:11 | 9:43:13 | |
OK, do one for us now, will you? | 9:43:13 | 9:43:16 | |
I'm a Partially Deceased Syndrome sufferer, and that is not my fault. | 9:43:22 | 9:43:26 | |
In The Flesh returned for a new series, | 9:43:27 | 9:43:30 | |
with plenty of zombie action. | 9:43:30 | 9:43:33 | |
SNARLING AND GROWLING | 9:43:34 | 9:43:36 | |
Looks like that one gave you the right run-around, Gary. | 9:43:41 | 9:43:44 | |
These rabids are getting more vicious. | 9:43:44 | 9:43:46 | |
Catching rabids - that's rabids, not rabbits - | 9:43:46 | 9:43:50 | |
all in a day's work for the bounty hunters, | 9:43:50 | 9:43:52 | |
and it seems like a job well done for the In The Flesh team. | 9:43:52 | 9:43:56 | |
Thanks for your comments this week. If you'd like to have your view aired, | 9:44:03 | 9:44:06 | |
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Well, that's it. Another busy week. Until next week - goodbye. | 9:44:36 | 9:44:40 |