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Threats to boycott the TV licence if there is not more ethnic diversity on TV. | 9:03:26 | 9:03:30 | |
And who exactly is to blame for us | 9:03:30 | 9:03:32 | |
not being able to hear what is being said in some dramas - | 9:03:32 | 9:03:36 | |
the actors or sound engineers? | 9:03:36 | 9:03:39 | |
Both sides put their case. | 9:03:39 | 9:03:41 | |
Welcome to Points Of View. | 9:03:41 | 9:03:43 | |
Good afternoon. | 9:03:54 | 9:03:55 | |
For some time now, campaigners have been saying that British TV | 9:03:55 | 9:03:58 | |
doesn't properly reflect | 9:03:58 | 9:04:00 | |
our racially diverse society. | 9:04:00 | 9:04:02 | |
But this week, the campaign to get better race representation | 9:04:02 | 9:04:05 | |
on screen stepped up a gear, with a call for people to stop paying | 9:04:05 | 9:04:09 | |
their TV licence fee if the BBC doesn't tackle the issue quickly. | 9:04:09 | 9:04:15 | |
Listen, if you want to get involved with the campaign to improve | 9:04:15 | 9:04:19 | |
diversity in broadcast media, hooray! | 9:04:19 | 9:04:21 | |
Comedian and actor Lenny Henry has loaned his voice to | 9:04:21 | 9:04:25 | |
the campaign, which is calling on the culture minister Ed Vaizey | 9:04:25 | 9:04:28 | |
to force TV channels to make changes to their staff make-up. | 9:04:28 | 9:04:33 | |
Putting the case for more diversity on screen is Simone Pennant. | 9:04:33 | 9:04:37 | |
My name's Simone and I'm from London. | 9:04:37 | 9:04:39 | |
And I represent 60,000 programme makers | 9:04:39 | 9:04:42 | |
from black and Asian backgrounds working in TV. | 9:04:42 | 9:04:45 | |
I myself have worked in TV for over 15 years | 9:04:45 | 9:04:49 | |
and the issue of diversity has been going on for all that time. | 9:04:49 | 9:04:53 | |
One of the biggest frustrations that a lot of my members talk about | 9:04:53 | 9:04:56 | |
is the way that their communities are often portrayed on screen. | 9:04:56 | 9:05:00 | |
Most feel at best that these portrayals are one-dimensional and even bland. | 9:05:00 | 9:05:04 | |
And they feel that part of the reason is the lack of opportunities | 9:05:04 | 9:05:07 | |
to actually make decisions and get behind making these programmes. | 9:05:07 | 9:05:11 | |
What Lenny Henry is proposing is a real tangible way | 9:05:11 | 9:05:14 | |
to make a change and make sure that what we're watching on TV | 9:05:14 | 9:05:17 | |
is reflective and better for all of us. | 9:05:17 | 9:05:19 | |
He is asking not only for ring-fenced money for programming, | 9:05:19 | 9:05:23 | |
but also more opportunities | 9:05:23 | 9:05:25 | |
and more jobs for people from diverse backgrounds working in the industry. | 9:05:25 | 9:05:28 | |
At the end of the summer, the BBC and government officials will be | 9:05:28 | 9:05:32 | |
meeting together to discuss this very issue and we feel | 9:05:32 | 9:05:35 | |
if no tangible solution is laid out on the table, | 9:05:35 | 9:05:38 | |
we'll have no alternative but to ask members to boycott the licence fee. | 9:05:38 | 9:05:42 | |
We appreciate that this might be against the law | 9:05:42 | 9:05:45 | |
but after years and years of discussing the same issue, | 9:05:45 | 9:05:48 | |
we feel that there is no choice. | 9:05:48 | 9:05:50 | |
So we asked the BBC for their view on this and they gave us a statement. | 9:05:50 | 9:05:54 | |
We are really keen to hear what you think of this. Please do get in touch. | 9:06:22 | 9:06:26 | |
The beautiful West Wales countryside providing a fabulous backdrop | 9:06:28 | 9:06:33 | |
for BBC Four's new series Hinterland. | 9:06:33 | 9:06:35 | |
The bilingual drama proving a highly successful cultural exchange. | 9:06:36 | 9:06:41 | |
Hywel Maybury? | 9:06:41 | 9:06:43 | |
TRANSLATION FROM WELSH: | 9:06:49 | 9:06:51 | |
BBC Four's done it again. Hinterland. | 9:06:55 | 9:06:58 | |
Atmospheric drama, | 9:06:58 | 9:06:59 | |
great storyline, wonderful scenery. | 9:06:59 | 9:07:02 | |
BBC at its best. | 9:07:02 | 9:07:04 | |
Why not on BBC One? Is it because of the subtitles? | 9:07:04 | 9:07:08 | |
The cinematography used in Hinterland's first episode was beautiful. | 9:07:08 | 9:07:12 | |
The shooting of each scene | 9:07:12 | 9:07:13 | |
incorporated a great use of lighting, framing | 9:07:13 | 9:07:15 | |
and the colour schemes were superb. | 9:07:15 | 9:07:17 | |
This, along with an amazing combination of acting and camerawork, | 9:07:17 | 9:07:21 | |
made for a fantastic, enjoyable TV show | 9:07:21 | 9:07:24 | |
that I would thoroughly recommend to others. | 9:07:24 | 9:07:27 | |
Two versions of the same drama were recorded - | 9:07:27 | 9:07:29 | |
one completely in Welsh, which aired only in Wales, | 9:07:29 | 9:07:33 | |
and this bilingual version - which meant more chances to watch - | 9:07:33 | 9:07:36 | |
and some can't get enough of it. | 9:07:36 | 9:07:39 | |
Staying with drama, | 9:07:47 | 9:07:49 | |
and the fallout from the sound fiasco on Jamaica Inn rumbles on. | 9:07:49 | 9:07:54 | |
Lots of you still getting in touch to air your frustrations over not | 9:07:54 | 9:07:58 | |
being able to understand parts of the dialogue in this period drama. | 9:07:58 | 9:08:03 | |
And many people pointing out that Jamaica Inn is not alone. | 9:08:03 | 9:08:07 | |
Over the past few months, | 9:08:07 | 9:08:09 | |
the sound quality | 9:08:09 | 9:08:11 | |
on the BBC has not been as good as it used to be. | 9:08:11 | 9:08:15 | |
I feel that... | 9:08:15 | 9:08:17 | |
the actors don't really pronounce their words properly | 9:08:17 | 9:08:23 | |
and enunciate properly. | 9:08:23 | 9:08:25 | |
And that makes you think that maybe you are going slightly deaf, | 9:08:25 | 9:08:30 | |
but it just seems to be too... | 9:08:30 | 9:08:34 | |
frequent for it just to be me. | 9:08:34 | 9:08:37 | |
This has been an issue for a number of years | 9:08:37 | 9:08:40 | |
and I need someone | 9:08:40 | 9:08:43 | |
to listen and do something about it. | 9:08:43 | 9:08:46 | |
I don't want to drone on about the licence fee | 9:08:46 | 9:08:48 | |
but there is an issue here. | 9:08:48 | 9:08:50 | |
I want the BBC to listen when people say that they can't hear | 9:08:50 | 9:08:56 | |
these good programmes, which are costing a great deal of money. | 9:08:56 | 9:09:01 | |
Last week, we were told the BBC is investigating what went wrong. | 9:09:01 | 9:09:05 | |
Was it the fault of the actors or the sound recordists? | 9:09:05 | 9:09:09 | |
Well, we asked two industry professionals | 9:09:09 | 9:09:11 | |
from both sides of the debate what they thought. | 9:09:11 | 9:09:15 | |
On this occasion, I felt that the sound technicians were being | 9:09:19 | 9:09:22 | |
unfairly blamed for what was, to me, a creative decision. | 9:09:22 | 9:09:27 | |
Me and this girl, we understand each other. | 9:09:27 | 9:09:29 | |
You get her something to eat. | 9:09:33 | 9:09:35 | |
Initially, all the excitement over Jamaica Inn | 9:09:37 | 9:09:41 | |
was focused by the BBC and others as a technical sound issue. | 9:09:41 | 9:09:48 | |
That did concern me because, in my opinion - | 9:09:48 | 9:09:51 | |
my professional opinion - it wasn't a technical sound issue. | 9:09:51 | 9:09:54 | |
I eventually spoke to colleagues and discussed it with them | 9:09:54 | 9:09:58 | |
and we came to the conclusion that what | 9:09:58 | 9:10:00 | |
we were hearing is what was faithfully recorded. | 9:10:00 | 9:10:03 | |
And so it wasn't a technical sound issue - | 9:10:03 | 9:10:06 | |
it really was a creative issue. | 9:10:06 | 9:10:09 | |
A creative decision. | 9:10:09 | 9:10:10 | |
So the actors are at fault? Does RADA agree? | 9:10:10 | 9:10:15 | |
I'd say there was a combination of factors. | 9:10:15 | 9:10:18 | |
I mean, lots of people like to talk about mumbling actors | 9:10:18 | 9:10:21 | |
and they blame that. Maybe that's part of it. | 9:10:21 | 9:10:23 | |
Maybe that was an artistic choice by the director, | 9:10:23 | 9:10:25 | |
maybe it was an artistic choice by the actor. | 9:10:25 | 9:10:29 | |
Maybe there's an issue with the mix, the level of sound effects, | 9:10:29 | 9:10:33 | |
music compared to the dialogue. | 9:10:33 | 9:10:35 | |
INDISTINCT SPEECH IN BACKGROUND DROWNS DIALOGUE | 9:10:35 | 9:10:38 | |
Actors mumbling is a performance issue. That's... | 9:10:38 | 9:10:42 | |
And whatever is performed in front of camera, as a sound department, | 9:10:42 | 9:10:48 | |
that's what we're going to record. | 9:10:48 | 9:10:50 | |
Ultimately, I think an actor has to be aware of the audience. | 9:10:50 | 9:10:52 | |
They're there to tell a story, help tell a story, | 9:10:52 | 9:10:55 | |
and, you know, the dialogue is key to that | 9:10:55 | 9:10:59 | |
and making sure the dialogue is understood is key. | 9:10:59 | 9:11:02 | |
It's as much about, you know, pronunciation and articulation | 9:11:02 | 9:11:07 | |
and those factors. | 9:11:07 | 9:11:09 | |
You like my new trinket, do you? | 9:11:09 | 9:11:11 | |
I think it's great the BBC are carrying out an investigation. I think it's fantastic, | 9:11:11 | 9:11:15 | |
and RADA would welcome the opportunity to be part of that. | 9:11:15 | 9:11:18 | |
If it comes to the right conclusions and they're enacted, then it means | 9:11:18 | 9:11:22 | |
the audience is going to have a far better experience at home. | 9:11:22 | 9:11:24 | |
Come on, Mary! Come on! | 9:11:26 | 9:11:28 | |
I know there's good in you. There must be! | 9:11:29 | 9:11:34 | |
We're told the BBC are still looking into the whole issue | 9:11:36 | 9:11:39 | |
and they will have more to say on this next week. | 9:11:39 | 9:11:42 | |
We and all of you who got in touch, I'm sure, | 9:11:42 | 9:11:44 | |
look forward to hearing that. | 9:11:44 | 9:11:47 | |
Next, it is more of a problem of hearing too much | 9:11:47 | 9:11:50 | |
and some of you complaining that coverage of | 9:11:50 | 9:11:52 | |
the Snooker World Championship is being ruined by overeager commentary. | 9:11:52 | 9:11:57 | |
DENNIS TAYLOR: He was in bed early, that's for sure. | 9:11:57 | 9:12:00 | |
He did all the right things. | 9:12:00 | 9:12:01 | |
But it's amazing, Willie. | 9:12:01 | 9:12:03 | |
Sometimes you stay up a bit later and maybe just have a glass of wine | 9:12:03 | 9:12:07 | |
and you... I remember Ray Reardon saying that. | 9:12:07 | 9:12:09 | |
He came out and said he went to bed early | 9:12:09 | 9:12:12 | |
and said he couldn't pot a ball next night. | 9:12:12 | 9:12:14 | |
This was at the World Championships. Said to David Vine, | 9:12:14 | 9:12:17 | |
"Had a few gin and tonics, couldn't miss a ball." Amazing! | 9:12:17 | 9:12:20 | |
-TED LOWE: -This frame is now heading for a very thrilling climax. | 9:12:39 | 9:12:44 | |
Whispering Ted Lowe proving | 9:12:44 | 9:12:46 | |
sometimes some things are best left unsaid. | 9:12:46 | 9:12:50 | |
As quietly as possible, please. Thank you. | 9:12:50 | 9:12:52 | |
Providing a rare point of view this week, Generation War. | 9:12:56 | 9:13:00 | |
A Second World War drama series | 9:13:00 | 9:13:02 | |
telling the story from the German perspective. | 9:13:02 | 9:13:06 | |
TRANSLATION FROM GERMAN: | 9:13:06 | 9:13:08 | |
This has been a thought-provoking and, often times, | 9:13:22 | 9:13:24 | |
uncomfortable look at normal Germans | 9:13:24 | 9:13:26 | |
and the changes to their moral compasses brought about by Nazism | 9:13:26 | 9:13:30 | |
and the events of World War II. | 9:13:30 | 9:13:31 | |
It's been unflinching in its portrayal of Nazi atrocities | 9:13:31 | 9:13:34 | |
against the Jews and ethnic Germans, the role played in these atrocities by normal Germans | 9:13:34 | 9:13:38 | |
and the personal struggles they have coming to terms with their actions. | 9:13:38 | 9:13:41 | |
Tough, but thought-provoking, drama in Generation War. | 9:13:41 | 9:13:46 | |
If you were looking for something with a lighter touch this week, | 9:13:46 | 9:13:49 | |
surely Happy Valley would have delivered. | 9:13:49 | 9:13:52 | |
Wouldn't it? | 9:13:52 | 9:13:53 | |
I'm Catherine, by the way. I'm 47, I'm divorced. | 9:13:53 | 9:13:56 | |
I live with my sister, who's a recovering heroin addict. | 9:13:56 | 9:13:59 | |
I've two grown-up children - one dead, one who doesn't speak to me - | 9:13:59 | 9:14:02 | |
and a grandson, so... | 9:14:02 | 9:14:03 | |
Why? | 9:14:03 | 9:14:06 | |
-Why doesn't he speak to you? -It's complicated. Let's talk about you. | 9:14:06 | 9:14:09 | |
Sarah Lancashire stars as a Yorkshire cop | 9:14:09 | 9:14:12 | |
with plenty of troubles of her own in this not-so-happy valley. | 9:14:12 | 9:14:16 | |
Brilliantly written | 9:14:16 | 9:14:18 | |
and captivating from the start, | 9:14:18 | 9:14:21 | |
with another superb performance from Sarah Lancashire. | 9:14:21 | 9:14:24 | |
Great dialogue in Happy Valley. | 9:14:31 | 9:14:34 | |
But it's the quality of the music in the BBC Young Musician 2014 | 9:14:34 | 9:14:38 | |
that's got you talking. | 9:14:38 | 9:14:40 | |
From Elliott Gaston-Ross's percussion winning performance to | 9:14:46 | 9:14:50 | |
Friday night's woodwind final winner Sophie Westbrooke on the recorder. | 9:14:50 | 9:14:55 | |
All agree the series is a real treat. | 9:15:03 | 9:15:06 | |
I've really enjoyed watching BBC Young Musician Of The Year this year. | 9:15:06 | 9:15:10 | |
I watch it most years and it's fascinating to see | 9:15:10 | 9:15:13 | |
the repertoire that the musicians pick to play. | 9:15:13 | 9:15:16 | |
It's often very challenging for me, as an amateur musician, | 9:15:16 | 9:15:19 | |
and it's really good to broaden my horizons and listen to new pieces. | 9:15:19 | 9:15:24 | |
Thanks, Callum, for getting in touch. | 9:15:24 | 9:15:26 | |
And if you'd like to have your views aired, here are the details... | 9:15:26 | 9:15:30 | |
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You can join the message boarders. Always lively there. | 9:15:45 | 9:15:48 | |
Or you can e-mail us. Here's the address... | 9:15:50 | 9:15:53 | |
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Lots of new followers here. Are you part of the conversation? | 9:15:59 | 9:16:02 | |
# Exsultet iam angelica turba caelorum... # | 9:16:02 | 9:16:06 | |
Finally, the last in the series and, it's thought, | 9:16:08 | 9:16:10 | |
the last for some time of the sitcom Rev. | 9:16:10 | 9:16:14 | |
'Here I am surrounded by the people who believe in me. | 9:16:14 | 9:16:17 | |
'I'm going to miss them all, Lord.' | 9:16:19 | 9:16:21 | |
You've been singing its praises all series. | 9:16:21 | 9:16:24 | |
None more so than Methodist lay preacher Julie Stiddard. | 9:16:24 | 9:16:27 | |
Now, due to a technical error, | 9:16:27 | 9:16:29 | |
we broadcast Mrs Stiddard's comment out of context last week. | 9:16:29 | 9:16:33 | |
Apologies for that. So here it is now in all its glory. | 9:16:33 | 9:16:37 | |
I would like to record my appreciation to the writers | 9:16:37 | 9:16:41 | |
of the Easter programme of Rev. | 9:16:41 | 9:16:43 | |
They captured the whole message of Easter in a wonderful way, | 9:16:43 | 9:16:48 | |
which would have been recognised by Christians, | 9:16:48 | 9:16:51 | |
and certainly made the Easter message very real for me. | 9:16:51 | 9:16:55 | |
In fact, the whole series has been a delight. | 9:16:55 | 9:16:59 | |
And we say hallelujah to that. Goodbye. | 9:16:59 | 9:17:02 |