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Chelsea without Titchmarsh, MasterChef music choices, | 0:01:26 | 0:01:29 | |
and Paxman's awkward question. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:31 | |
Just some of the issues that have got you talking this week. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:34 | |
Welcome to Points Of View. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:36 | |
Good afternoon. The annual Chelsea Flower Show returned this week | 0:01:47 | 0:01:52 | |
with all the usual colour and excitement. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:54 | |
But this year, one hardy annual has been missing. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:57 | |
After three decades broadcasting from the show, Alan Titchmarsh | 0:01:57 | 0:02:01 | |
has been replaced by fellow gardening presenter Monty Don. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:05 | |
What on earth possessed you to replace an articulate, accomplished | 0:02:05 | 0:02:09 | |
and personable presenter, like Adam Titchmarsh, with Monty Don? | 0:02:09 | 0:02:13 | |
A nice enough bloke, I'm sure, but he seemed completely | 0:02:13 | 0:02:16 | |
out of his depth and uncomfortable in almost every situation. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:20 | |
Well done, BBC, for your coverage of the Chelsea Flower Show. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:23 | |
However, I do feel that Monty Don was out of his depth | 0:02:24 | 0:02:28 | |
as an interviewer. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:30 | |
Not to mention how shabbily he was dressed. | 0:02:30 | 0:02:34 | |
As the Chelsea Flower Show was in London, | 0:02:34 | 0:02:37 | |
it was a shame that no-one from the BBC could take him | 0:02:37 | 0:02:40 | |
down to Savile Row and buy him a decent suit, shirt and tie. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:45 | |
We joined the queue outside the show to get | 0:02:46 | 0:02:48 | |
the reaction of the Chelsea set. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:51 | |
We asked them the all-important question. Who is your favourite? | 0:02:51 | 0:02:55 | |
Monty or Alan? | 0:02:55 | 0:02:57 | |
My favourite is Alan. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:02 | |
My favourite's Monty. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:04 | |
I prefer Alan Titchmarsh because I followed him all through | 0:03:04 | 0:03:07 | |
Gardeners' World, and he was my first endeavour into the gardening world. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:10 | |
It's a small garden. Most of us are faced with tiny plots. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:13 | |
And this one's only 15 feet wide. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:15 | |
I actually prefer Monty. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:17 | |
I like the gritty way he gets down to do things in the garden. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:21 | |
He's a firm favourite of mine. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:23 | |
Now, I just use the side of my hand to make a furrow. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:26 | |
-Alan. -It's got to be Alan. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:30 | |
Definitely Alan. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:32 | |
And, in my view, we've come to trust him because of his very deep | 0:03:32 | 0:03:36 | |
knowledge of not just horticulture, which Monty has, | 0:03:36 | 0:03:39 | |
but also his deep knowledge of the Chelsea Flower Show. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:42 | |
-Alan? -Welcome to my beach hut. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:44 | |
I think the way Alan's presented the show over the years is unique. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:47 | |
When I started watching this year, it really did feel different. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:50 | |
It felt like something was missing. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:51 | |
Good evening. It's been a day of high excitement | 0:03:51 | 0:03:54 | |
and anticipation here at RHS Chelsea Flower Show. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:57 | |
I'm an absolutely huge fan of Monty Don. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:00 | |
I'm really, really glad that he's now the presenter | 0:04:00 | 0:04:03 | |
of the Chelsea Flower Show. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:04 | |
He brings his passion and he describes things in a way | 0:04:04 | 0:04:08 | |
that even simple things | 0:04:08 | 0:04:10 | |
you suddenly realise, "If only I'd done it like that." | 0:04:10 | 0:04:13 | |
I'll tell you what, I'm going to take some clothes off. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:17 | |
To be honest, I would have to do this and stand between them | 0:04:17 | 0:04:20 | |
and say, I love them both! | 0:04:20 | 0:04:22 | |
A mixed reaction from the green-fingered fans, then. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:26 | |
For his part, Alan Titchmarsh is on the record as saying that | 0:04:26 | 0:04:29 | |
the BBC had made him an offer he COULD refuse. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:32 | |
So, did the powers that be put him out to seed? | 0:04:32 | 0:04:35 | |
Here is a statement from headquarters. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:38 | |
Our MasterChef champion... | 0:05:04 | 0:05:06 | |
..is Ping. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:09 | |
MUSIC: "I'm Every Woman" by Chaka Khan | 0:05:09 | 0:05:11 | |
Ping Coombes is crowned MasterChef Champion 2014, | 0:05:11 | 0:05:14 | |
her East Asian dishes proving a very popular choice. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:18 | |
But we wish we could say the same for the music, | 0:05:18 | 0:05:20 | |
chosen by the production team. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:23 | |
# I'm every woman | 0:05:23 | 0:05:26 | |
# It's all in me... # | 0:05:26 | 0:05:28 | |
I've just finished watching the final episodes of MasterChef. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:31 | |
What a brilliant series! | 0:05:31 | 0:05:33 | |
The highs, the lows, the whole piece in Barcelona, | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
the three fabulous contestants, | 0:05:36 | 0:05:38 | |
culminating in a thrilling win for Ping. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:40 | |
Why, oh, why, oh, why did we end up then having to listen to | 0:05:40 | 0:05:43 | |
Chaka Khan's I'm Every Woman played over the last part? | 0:05:43 | 0:05:46 | |
It really ruined a quite brilliant series. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:49 | |
And it wasn't just MasterChef being accused of sexism this week. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:11 | |
The former Italian Prime Minister faced his own accusations | 0:06:11 | 0:06:15 | |
from Newsnight's Jeremy Paxman on Tuesday night. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:18 | |
Do have a particular problem with Angela Merkel? | 0:06:18 | 0:06:20 | |
Is it true you called her... | 0:06:20 | 0:06:22 | |
Now, for reasons of taste and decency and, | 0:06:22 | 0:06:25 | |
given the hour of the day, I will paraphrase for you here. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:29 | |
The question posed asked | 0:06:29 | 0:06:30 | |
if Mr Berlusconi had called the German Prime Minister | 0:06:30 | 0:06:33 | |
an unalluring woman with a posterior made of pork fat. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:39 | |
-TRANSLATION: -No, I have never had any problems with Angela Merkel. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:43 | |
In 20 years of politics, I've never insulted anyone. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:47 | |
And this has been made up by someone who wanted to turn | 0:06:47 | 0:06:51 | |
Angela against me. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:53 | |
Silvio Berlusconi denying that he would ever have said such | 0:06:53 | 0:06:56 | |
a thing about his then European counterpart. | 0:06:56 | 0:06:59 | |
Although the remark was very cruel, many of you believed Paxman | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
was right to have put it direct to his interviewee. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:06 | |
It comes down to the intent and purpose of him doing so. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:10 | |
Was it out to intimidate or abuse Berlusconi or Merkel? | 0:07:10 | 0:07:14 | |
No, it was to get across a point of what was actually said. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:18 | |
And what was actually meant by it from Berlusconi's perspective. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:23 | |
All too often, we shy away from using terminology because somebody | 0:07:23 | 0:07:27 | |
finds it offensive and we cannot go on as a society in that way. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:32 | |
Still causing trouble after all these years, the great Paxo. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:37 | |
Now, moving on. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:38 | |
A couple of weeks ago, you may remember viewer Rich Bishop | 0:07:38 | 0:07:41 | |
called on the BBC to step out of the ratings war. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:45 | |
Isn't it time the BBC stopped spending | 0:07:45 | 0:07:47 | |
so much of the licence fee payers' money only entertaining | 0:07:47 | 0:07:51 | |
the mainstream and chasing the ratings and, instead, | 0:07:51 | 0:07:53 | |
spent more of it informing and educating the wider British public? | 0:07:53 | 0:07:57 | |
Well, this week, two industry professionals tell us | 0:07:57 | 0:08:00 | |
why ratings do, and should, matter at the BBC. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:03 | |
Ratings are the currency for broadcasters, | 0:08:03 | 0:08:06 | |
so they are absolutely vitally important. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:08 | |
At around about 9:33am, | 0:08:08 | 0:08:11 | |
the ratings come through, and everybody has a look at them. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:14 | |
The viewing figures we produce every day are vital. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:17 | |
Firstly, for broadcasters so that they can be reassured | 0:08:17 | 0:08:21 | |
that they're investing in the right programming. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:24 | |
And, secondly, for the commercial broadcasters, they need to be | 0:08:24 | 0:08:28 | |
able to set the right rates for the cost of advertising. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:32 | |
The BBC has always chased ratings. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:37 | |
Always has done, always will, because they want to demonstrate value | 0:08:37 | 0:08:41 | |
and range for the licence fee payer. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:43 | |
So, it's important for the BBC to get audiences to programmes | 0:08:43 | 0:08:47 | |
such as Panorama, Strictly Come Dancing, EastEnders, | 0:08:47 | 0:08:52 | |
via Call The Midwife and Imagine, for range and value across all genres | 0:08:52 | 0:08:58 | |
for the licence fee payer. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:00 | |
We know that there's a lot of interest in the numbers | 0:09:00 | 0:09:02 | |
we produce, particularly when you have a show such as The X Factor | 0:09:02 | 0:09:07 | |
up against Strictly Come Dancing in the Saturday evening ratings battle. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:11 | |
The ratings battle between ITV and BBC One, especially, is very fierce. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:16 | |
They're the two biggest broadcasters. | 0:09:16 | 0:09:18 | |
And when you're at ITV, as I was, | 0:09:18 | 0:09:20 | |
what you care about more than anything is what BBC One are up to. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:24 | |
And when I was at BBC, which I was beforehand, | 0:09:24 | 0:09:26 | |
you care more than anything about what ITV are up to. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:29 | |
It's the two biggest channels slugging it out | 0:09:29 | 0:09:32 | |
for the biggest ratings share. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:34 | |
It's so good tonight. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:36 | |
And it's highly competitive, and it generates good ideas | 0:09:36 | 0:09:38 | |
and good programming because each one wants to beat the other. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:42 | |
Now, did you see this? | 0:09:42 | 0:09:44 | |
The story of how polio was beaten, which was told | 0:09:44 | 0:09:48 | |
in Stephanie Flanders' very personal account on Monday night. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:52 | |
I know about polio because my own dad | 0:09:52 | 0:09:55 | |
caught the disease in the Navy during the war. | 0:09:55 | 0:09:58 | |
Polio put him in a wheelchair from the age of 21. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:02 | |
The former BBC economics editor's troubling memories | 0:10:03 | 0:10:07 | |
of the impact of the disease being shared by some. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:10 | |
It was Michael Flanders' presence in the early stages | 0:10:10 | 0:10:13 | |
of the battle to beat polio which initially drew me in. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:15 | |
But, after that, I was hooked. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:17 | |
His daughter's presentation style is extremely natural and relaxed, | 0:10:17 | 0:10:21 | |
and the programme was, as a result, absolutely captivating. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:24 | |
It would have been very easy for her to turn it into | 0:10:24 | 0:10:27 | |
an overly personal documentary. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:30 | |
But, instead, it was handled with tact and with care. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:32 | |
It was compelling, fascinating, and, occasionally, | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
absolutely heartbreaking. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:37 | |
And praise, too, for BBC Two's very raw drama about the final days | 0:10:37 | 0:10:42 | |
of the Welsh poet Dylan Thomas. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:44 | |
Oh, Caitlin, Cat, my beautiful, my love. What am I doing here? | 0:10:49 | 0:10:54 | |
I don't want to be in this nightmare any more where no-one understands me | 0:10:55 | 0:10:59 | |
but everyone wants to bite little bits off me and swallow them. | 0:10:59 | 0:11:03 | |
I want to be home in Laugharne and live quietly with you and Colm. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:08 | |
Tom Hollander - yup, that's him off Rev - starred as Dylan Thomas. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:13 | |
A story, a sad portrayal of the great poet's demise. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:17 | |
Tom Hollander gave an absolutely cracking performance as | 0:11:17 | 0:11:21 | |
Dylan Thomas in A Poet In New York. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:23 | |
It seemed he didn't use imitation or mimicry, but he became Dylan Thomas. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:29 | |
It's like he embodied the essence of Thomas. And it was amazing. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:34 | |
And the way he read his works I thought were absolutely fantastic. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:37 | |
Brilliant. An award-winning performance, in my book. Absolutely. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:42 | |
Next, not so much art lovers but art collectors. | 0:11:56 | 0:11:59 | |
In fact, collectors of anything that'll make a few quid. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:02 | |
It's the start of the new series called Del Boys And Dealers. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:06 | |
All over Britain, a unique breed of entrepreneur is on the make. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:11 | |
It's just become 100 years old, so it's just become an antique. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:14 | |
The flames are beautiful. This will be so easy to sell. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:19 | |
For these real-life Del Boys, everything and anything is for sale. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:24 | |
Lot 53. Two bags of various biscuits - | 0:12:24 | 0:12:27 | |
Jaffa Cakes, etc - and a box of Nurofen. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:29 | |
Three more of these in the series to come. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:43 | |
Let's see if our real-life Trotters do make their fortune after all. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:48 | |
Now, next up, pronunciation. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:49 | |
Always a real bugbear here at Points Of View, as you know. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:54 | |
This week, not one but two presenters | 0:12:54 | 0:12:56 | |
apparently missing the mark. | 0:12:56 | 0:12:58 | |
They're great on the barbecues, these aw-bergines. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:08 | |
This has got the aw-bergines. The smoked aw-bergines are very simple. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:11 | |
The Obella family have just started growing these... | 0:13:11 | 0:13:15 | |
aw-bergines. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:16 | |
This is aw-bergine that you're preparing. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:18 | |
But aw-bergines are close to the Italian heart. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:21 | |
Countryfile's Matt Baker and James Martin from Saturday Kitchen | 0:13:21 | 0:13:24 | |
incorrectly pronouncing "aubergine", | 0:13:24 | 0:13:27 | |
which is oh-ber-gine, or even oh-ber-jean, | 0:13:27 | 0:13:30 | |
but never aw-ber-jean, according to our official sources. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:35 | |
Don't get started on whether it's a fruit or a vegetable. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:38 | |
That will surely open the floodgates. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:40 | |
Thanks for all your comments this week. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:42 | |
If you'd like to have your view aired, we made getting | 0:13:42 | 0:13:44 | |
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From now on, you'll be able to click the link on our programme page | 0:13:47 | 0:13:51 | |
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There are full instructions on how to do this on the link. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:02 | |
But we haven't done away with all the usual ways of getting in touch. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:05 | |
You can do so by writing to us. Here is the address. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:08 | |
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Or join the message boarders. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:25 | |
There's always e-mail, too. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:30 | |
Plus, there's Twitter... | 0:14:33 | 0:14:36 | |
Before we go, many of you enjoying the celebrations of 50 years | 0:14:36 | 0:14:40 | |
of comedy on BBC Two this weekend. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:42 | |
Those celebrations continue tonight with Harry Enfield | 0:14:42 | 0:14:46 | |
and Paul Whitehouse's irreverent, not always entirely accurate, | 0:14:46 | 0:14:49 | |
look at the history of the channel. | 0:14:49 | 0:14:52 | |
And we leave you with a sneak preview of that show. | 0:14:52 | 0:14:55 | |
Until next week, goodbye. | 0:14:55 | 0:14:57 | |
This cathedral of programme making brought joy to the great unwashed. | 0:14:57 | 0:15:03 | |
-I like television, I like Bruce Forsyth. -I like Doctor Who. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:06 | |
I like Coronation Street. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:08 | |
How different television looks today. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:11 | |
-I like Bruce Forsyth. -I like Doctor Who. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:15 | |
I like Coronation Street. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:17 |