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-The story of Welsh football -is one worth telling. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:07 | |
-Like in all good stories, -there are heroes... | 0:00:07 | 0:00:10 | |
-..and villains. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:12 | |
-There are tough, physical battles... | 0:00:13 | 0:00:17 | |
-..and emotional ones too. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:20 | |
-In the series, -I'll visit village grounds... | 0:00:21 | 0:00:24 | |
-Save! | 0:00:25 | 0:00:26 | |
-..and city stadiums. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:28 | |
-I'll meet the people -who helped shape the game in Wales. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:32 | |
-From the start, Welsh football -has battled to overcome obstacles. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:52 | |
-These prevented the growth -of the game to such an extent... | 0:00:52 | 0:00:57 | |
-..that we were left behind, -compared to the rest of Britain. | 0:00:58 | 0:01:02 | |
-But the game is still with us... | 0:01:06 | 0:01:08 | |
-..and it's in really good shape. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:11 | |
-But as we'll see... | 0:01:12 | 0:01:14 | |
-..it's quite surprising considering -what it was up against. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:18 | |
-We'll start with the obvious one. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:21 | |
-Rugby. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:23 | |
-Our national game?! | 0:01:24 | 0:01:26 | |
-WHAT IS WALES'S NATIONAL GAME? | 0:01:30 | 0:01:33 | |
-Rugby. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:34 | |
-Rugby. - -Football. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:35 | |
-Football. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:36 | |
-Football. - -Rugby. | 0:01:36 | 0:01:37 | |
-It's more football now. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:39 | |
-It's more football now. - -No, rugby. | 0:01:39 | 0:01:41 | |
-Football. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:42 | |
-Rugby. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:43 | |
-Rugby. - -Rugby. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:44 | |
-All Welsh people like rugby. | 0:01:44 | 0:01:48 | |
-That was fairly equal. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:51 | |
-According to Wikipedia, -rugby is our national game. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:56 | |
-I'm not sure about that. | 0:01:56 | 0:01:58 | |
-If you came here -on two or three weekends... | 0:01:59 | 0:02:02 | |
-..between January and March... | 0:02:03 | 0:02:05 | |
-..to be greeted by felt daffodils -and sparkly cowboy hats... | 0:02:05 | 0:02:10 | |
-..you could well believe it. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:12 | |
-But is it true? Or is it all hype? | 0:02:13 | 0:02:16 | |
-For every rugby club in Wales, -there are four football clubs. | 0:02:18 | 0:02:22 | |
-320 rugby clubs... | 0:02:23 | 0:02:25 | |
-..but over -a thousand football clubs. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:29 | |
-How many players -are registered with the clubs? | 0:02:29 | 0:02:33 | |
-25,000 rugby players. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:35 | |
-90,000 football players. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:38 | |
-Before we argue about it, -rugby and football are siblings. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:46 | |
-That's Rugby Football -and Association Football... | 0:02:46 | 0:02:50 | |
-..to give them -their posh English names. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:53 | |
-They only parted company -150 years ago. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:57 | |
-I've come to Ruthin School -to find out more from Meilyr Emrys. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:03 | |
-His specialist field -is the game's early history. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:07 | |
-Schools have played -a part in the game's development. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:12 | |
-Ever since the Middle Ages... | 0:03:12 | 0:03:14 | |
-..some sort of football, if you -can call it that, was played... | 0:03:15 | 0:03:19 | |
-..between villages -or in public schools. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:23 | |
-In these games... | 0:03:23 | 0:03:25 | |
-..the ball was an excuse -to have an almighty brawl. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:30 | |
-This was a problem, -especially for the public schools. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:35 | |
-By the early 19th century... | 0:03:35 | 0:03:37 | |
-..schools like Eton and Harrow ... | 0:03:37 | 0:03:40 | |
-..had lost their good name -because of the way they played. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:44 | |
-By the mid-19th century... | 0:03:44 | 0:03:47 | |
-..the teachers realized... | 0:03:48 | 0:03:50 | |
-..that seeing as -the boys played football... | 0:03:50 | 0:03:54 | |
-..they should devise -rules for the game... | 0:03:54 | 0:03:57 | |
-..to control what they were doing. | 0:03:58 | 0:04:00 | |
-They used the sport -to underline values... | 0:04:00 | 0:04:04 | |
-..such as bravery, -self-discipline and teamwork. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:09 | |
-But unfortunately, every school -developed their own set of rules. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:14 | |
-How did the rules differ? | 0:04:14 | 0:04:16 | |
-Some schools allowed the pupils -to hold and run with the ball. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:22 | |
-Other schools insisted the boys -could only use their feet. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:28 | |
-The other issue was, -how dirty could they play? | 0:04:28 | 0:04:31 | |
-To some, the idea -of hacking and shinning... | 0:04:32 | 0:04:35 | |
-..was totally fair. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:37 | |
-It's only after leaving school... | 0:04:42 | 0:04:45 | |
-..that the different rules -posed a problem. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:49 | |
-The boys wanted to continue -playing football in college. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:54 | |
-No-one knew which rules to follow. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:57 | |
-It started in Cambridge, -in the late 1840s. | 0:04:57 | 0:05:01 | |
-A definitive set of rules -was devised. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:05 | |
-They're very similar -to today's rules. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:08 | |
-That's when rugby followers -decided to strike out on their own. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:13 | |
-Representatives from Rugby School -took part in the debate. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:20 | |
-They couldn't have their own way... | 0:05:21 | 0:05:23 | |
-..when it came to -ball-handling and playing dirty. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:27 | |
-They literally ran off with the ball -and concentrated on playing rugby. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:32 | |
-The two games took hold in Wales. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:36 | |
-In the early days... | 0:05:36 | 0:05:39 | |
-..the line between football -and rugby was still blurred. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:44 | |
-Believe it or not... | 0:05:45 | 0:05:47 | |
-..there's evidence of clubs -playing rugby in the first half... | 0:05:47 | 0:05:52 | |
-..and football in the second. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:54 | |
-Balls were hard to come by. | 0:05:56 | 0:05:58 | |
-In the first game -of the 1876 season... | 0:05:58 | 0:06:02 | |
-..Llanelwedd played football -against Radnorshire Wanderers. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:06 | |
-When the ball burst... | 0:06:07 | 0:06:09 | |
-..they switched to playing rugby. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:12 | |
-By the 20th century, -these inconsistencies disappeared. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:18 | |
-The clubs had decided -which game they'd play. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:23 | |
-Rugby caught on first -in many places in South Wales. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:27 | |
-By the 1890s, -football gained popularity here. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:32 | |
-What turned the tide -in favour of rugby... | 0:06:34 | 0:06:38 | |
-..and made it synonymous -with Wales in the eyes of the world? | 0:06:38 | 0:06:42 | |
-Some believe it happened -one fateful day in 1905. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:49 | |
-Wales played the All Blacks. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:53 | |
-It was New Zealand's -first tour of Britain. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:01 | |
-It was rumoured -that they were a good team. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:04 | |
-No-one appreciated quite how good. -They were incredible. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:09 | |
-They hadn't lost once. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:11 | |
-Wales had a good team. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:15 | |
-No-one gave them a chance -against the New Zealand giants. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:20 | |
-They played in Cardiff -and Wales won 3-0. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:25 | |
-They became overnight stars -and national heroes. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:30 | |
-New Zealand did the haka before -the game, as they still do today. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:35 | |
-Wales responded by singing -the national anthem. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:39 | |
-Everybody joined in the singing. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:42 | |
-It was the first time -the anthem was sung. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:46 | |
-Never before had any country -sang the anthem before a game. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:50 | |
-All the elements came together. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:52 | |
-Perhaps that's why Wales started -to think it was our national game. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:58 | |
-These days, football -is described as a religion. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:05 | |
-It has captured -people's imagination... | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
-..and plays -a central role in their lives. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:12 | |
-But it's nothing new. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:14 | |
-It troubled Welsh nonconformists -in the 19th century. | 0:08:15 | 0:08:19 | |
-Football threatened to lead Welsh -boys from the path of righteousness. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:25 | |
-In some places, -especially England... | 0:08:27 | 0:08:30 | |
-..churches saw football as a means -to lure young men into the fold. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:36 | |
-Everton was established -by Methodists... | 0:08:37 | 0:08:40 | |
-..Manchester City and Southampton -by the Church... | 0:08:40 | 0:08:44 | |
-..and Aston Villa by Wesleyans. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:47 | |
-The Welsh chapels -took a very different approach. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:52 | |
-"Kicking a football -on the Sabbath in Llanegryn!" | 0:08:53 | 0:08:57 | |
-"Worshipping football." | 0:08:59 | 0:09:01 | |
-"I find it hard to fathom -a game as barbaric as football." | 0:09:03 | 0:09:08 | |
-The game grew in popularity in -the second half of the 19th century. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:14 | |
-Angry letters appeared -in the press complaining about... | 0:09:14 | 0:09:19 | |
-.."The sinful and ancient custom -of kicking a football." | 0:09:20 | 0:09:24 | |
-They worried about -the lads' spiritual wellbeing. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:28 | |
-Their minds were filled -by something other than God. | 0:09:29 | 0:09:32 | |
-The pulpit was the ideal platform -to spread the word. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:37 | |
-It's dangerous to put -too much emphasis... | 0:09:37 | 0:09:40 | |
-..on the chapels' negative impact -on football. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:44 | |
-But the fire and brimstone preachers -had a great deal of influence. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:50 | |
-It's worth noting that the four -main nonconformist denominations... | 0:09:51 | 0:09:57 | |
-..had 350,000 members -in Wales in 1881. | 0:09:57 | 0:10:01 | |
-That shows how far they reached. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:05 | |
-Upholding the Sabbath was -very important to nonconformists. | 0:10:08 | 0:10:13 | |
-The chapels' influence -was reflected in the statute books. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:19 | |
-In 1863... | 0:10:19 | 0:10:21 | |
-..when children played football -on this Caernarfon street... | 0:10:21 | 0:10:26 | |
-..on Sunday, no less... | 0:10:26 | 0:10:28 | |
-..the police -were called to put a stop to it. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:31 | |
-After a local law -was passed in Ruthin, in 1855... | 0:10:33 | 0:10:37 | |
-..you could be arrested -for playing football. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:41 | |
-The law compared the game -to unsavoury activities... | 0:10:41 | 0:10:45 | |
-..such as -drunkenness, cleaning toilets... | 0:10:45 | 0:10:48 | |
-..and exposing yourself. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:51 | |
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-Subtitles - -Subtitles | 0:10:56 | 0:10:58 | |
-Many people remember -the end of the 1950s... | 0:11:02 | 0:11:05 | |
-..as a golden age -for Welsh football. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:08 | |
-Wales reached the World Cup finals -for the first time. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:13 | |
-Oddly, at the same time, -there was a concerted effort... | 0:11:14 | 0:11:18 | |
-..to ban football -in our grammar schools. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:22 | |
-In 1957, two young men -protested against this. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:29 | |
-You still have it! | 0:11:30 | 0:11:32 | |
-This is the school in Llandysul. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:34 | |
-How are you? | 0:11:34 | 0:11:36 | |
-How are you? - -Fine, thanks. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:37 | |
-I've come to meet -the two old rebels. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:40 | |
-Peter, Aled. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:45 | |
-You have an interesting story. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:47 | |
-This was football country. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:50 | |
-The school played football -since it was founded. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:54 | |
-But sadly for us, -when we were in the Sixth Form... | 0:11:55 | 0:11:59 | |
-..a new head teacher arrived. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:02 | |
-When school began in September... | 0:12:03 | 0:12:06 | |
-..there were -no football posts anywhere. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:09 | |
-There were only rugby posts! | 0:12:09 | 0:12:10 | |
-There were only rugby posts! - -They'd removed the goals. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:12 | |
-What on earth was this odd game? | 0:12:13 | 0:12:15 | |
-It happened overnight. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:18 | |
-Rugby was compulsory. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:21 | |
-Football, and the round ball... | 0:12:21 | 0:12:23 | |
-..weren't allowed -anywhere near the school. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:27 | |
-You decided -to take us out on strike. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:30 | |
-You contacted the local press -to tell them about the strike. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:35 | |
-You and I went to phone -Swansea's Evening Post. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:40 | |
-It had a pro-football bias. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:44 | |
-We phoned the local papers -in Carmarthen and Cardigan. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:50 | |
-There was a lot of publicity. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:53 | |
-We also deliberately lost -the first matches. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:59 | |
-I hadn't meant to mention that! | 0:13:00 | 0:13:02 | |
-There was a hill by the field. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:05 | |
-If the wingers got the ball, -they kicked it into the pine trees. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:11 | |
-The whole afternoon was spent -looking for the ball. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:15 | |
-LAUGHTER | 0:13:15 | 0:13:16 | |
-They also tried to stop us... | 0:13:18 | 0:13:21 | |
-..from playing -for our village clubs. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:25 | |
-We played rugby in the morning. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:27 | |
-We were banned from -playing for our football clubs. | 0:13:27 | 0:13:31 | |
-Even in your spare time. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:33 | |
-We took no notice of that. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:35 | |
-Just think about it, boys like us -had to give all that up for rugby. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:40 | |
-It would have been fine, -if we played both games. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:44 | |
-We could have talked about it -and learnt both games. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:49 | |
-That's what education should be. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:51 | |
-Yes, rather than -having it forced on you. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:54 | |
-In time, in the 1980s... | 0:13:55 | 0:13:57 | |
-..I became Chair of the Welsh -Schools' Football Association. | 0:13:57 | 0:14:01 | |
-I found it sad... | 0:14:02 | 0:14:03 | |
-..to see that attitude -still existing in our schools. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:08 | |
-Now, of course, it has all changed. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:10 | |
-Football in Wales -has a new structure. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:13 | |
-There are leagues in every county, -for all age groups... | 0:14:14 | 0:14:19 | |
-..and academies linked to clubs. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:22 | |
-The structure of football -has strengthened... | 0:14:22 | 0:14:26 | |
-..after moving out of the schools. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:28 | |
-We faced a lot of anger back then. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:31 | |
-Ever since the Scarlets rugby team -beat the All Blacks in 1972... | 0:14:35 | 0:14:40 | |
-..people have thought -of Llanelli as a rugby town. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:45 | |
-But there has been a football -club here too, since 1892. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:52 | |
-I've come to the club -to see how the two games coexist. | 0:14:52 | 0:14:57 | |
-The team played at five grounds... | 0:14:59 | 0:15:02 | |
-..before settling here at -Stebonheath Park Stadium, in 1922. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:06 | |
-But when European football -came to Llanelli in 2006... | 0:15:07 | 0:15:11 | |
-..UEFA required all-seater stadiums. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:14 | |
-So they had to ask -the rugby club a favour. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:17 | |
-Maybe the relationship -wasn't all bad after all. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:20 | |
-Hi. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:23 | |
-Two pounds, please. | 0:15:23 | 0:15:24 | |
-Two pounds, please. - -Thanks. Cheers. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:25 | |
-Today is the first game -of the new season. | 0:15:27 | 0:15:30 | |
-I talked to Jonathan Nicklin, one -of the club's biggest supporters. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:35 | |
-Well done, boys! | 0:15:35 | 0:15:38 | |
-Does football suffer -in a town like Llanelli? | 0:15:39 | 0:15:42 | |
-Football has always been -the town's number one sport. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:48 | |
-But for the media, -it's only the Scarlets. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:51 | |
-Six, seven or eight -thousand people watch them. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:55 | |
-As you see, -there are only about 200 here. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:59 | |
-In the 1930s and 1940s... | 0:16:00 | 0:16:01 | |
-..we had crowds of thousands. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:05 | |
-It just dwindled away. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:07 | |
-But if you go to parks -on Saturday and Sunday... | 0:16:07 | 0:16:11 | |
-..you can see how -many people play football. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:16 | |
-But for other people... | 0:16:17 | 0:16:19 | |
-..rugby is everything. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:21 | |
-The media regard rugby -as the number one sport. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:26 | |
-But it isn't. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:28 | |
-Do they hype it? | 0:16:28 | 0:16:29 | |
-Yes. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:31 | |
-It's up to us to write a report -for our local paper... | 0:16:31 | 0:16:35 | |
-..but there are five or six pages -in it, full of rugby. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:40 | |
-The council doesn't help either. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:44 | |
-Go on! | 0:16:45 | 0:16:47 | |
-Yes! | 0:16:48 | 0:16:50 | |
-Good. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:54 | |
-The club owner wanted to put signs -up for Stebonheath Park in town. | 0:16:54 | 0:17:00 | |
-The council gave us -a quote of 500 to 600 for a sign. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:07 | |
-But the Scarlets... | 0:17:08 | 0:17:10 | |
-..got 30,000... | 0:17:11 | 0:17:13 | |
-..for signs to go -to Parc Y Scarlets. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:18 | |
-We want a level playing field. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:21 | |
-We don't have it. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:24 | |
-There's a new owner -here now, isn't there? | 0:17:24 | 0:17:27 | |
-Yes, Mr Craddock has come in. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:29 | |
-He's a local businessman. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:32 | |
-He has a real affection -for the club. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:36 | |
-Locals play here. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:38 | |
-They don't come down -from Llanidloes or Cardiff any more. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:43 | |
-They all come from town... | 0:17:43 | 0:17:45 | |
-..or Swansea and Neath. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:48 | |
-That's good to see. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:49 | |
-That's good to see. - -Yes. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:50 | |
-Our aim now is to go up. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:54 | |
-Back to where you should be. | 0:17:54 | 0:17:56 | |
-To the Welsh Premier. | 0:17:57 | 0:17:58 | |
-To the Welsh Premier. - -Yes. | 0:17:58 | 0:17:59 | |
-As you can see, -the facilities are fantastic. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:03 | |
-They are. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:04 | |
-It's important to everyone. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:06 | |
-It's my life. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:08 | |
-I don't support -Man United or Liverpool. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:12 | |
-This is my club. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:14 | |
-I really hope you'll be back -in the Welsh Prem soon. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:18 | |
-That's where you belong. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:19 | |
-That's where you belong. - -Thank you. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:20 | |
-Can we have a pint in that fine -clubhouse to celebrate the victory? | 0:18:21 | 0:18:26 | |
-Definitely. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:27 | |
-Definitely. - -Champion! | 0:18:27 | 0:18:28 | |
-BACKGROUND CHAT | 0:18:29 | 0:18:30 | |
-If Llanelli AFC's fans feel unhappy -standing in the Scarlets' shadow... | 0:18:32 | 0:18:37 | |
-..think how much women's football -in Wales has suffered... | 0:18:38 | 0:18:42 | |
-..in the shadow of the men's game. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:45 | |
-Women's football first -came to Wales in the 1890s. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:51 | |
-By the Great War, there were several -women's clubs in South Wales. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:56 | |
-Some women's matches -drew thousands of spectators. | 0:18:57 | 0:19:01 | |
-But in 1935, the FAW turned -against the women's game. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:06 | |
-They were banned -from playing in Welsh grounds... | 0:19:07 | 0:19:11 | |
-..even in charity fundraisers. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:14 | |
-This hindered the growth of the game -in Wales in the following years. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:19 | |
-I've come to Cardiff City Stadium -to meet Laura McAllister. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:25 | |
-Laura played for -the city's women's team for years. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:29 | |
-In 1994, she was one -of the first women... | 0:19:29 | 0:19:32 | |
-..to play officially -for her country. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:36 | |
-Laura, you won 24 caps for Wales. -Congratulations. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:40 | |
-Growing up in Bridgend, how often -did you get to play football? | 0:19:40 | 0:19:45 | |
-It was very different in my time. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
-Women didn't have -many opportunities... | 0:19:49 | 0:19:53 | |
-..to take part in sports -like football or rugby. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:57 | |
-I just played with friends, -the boys usually. | 0:19:57 | 0:20:02 | |
-I could play quite well. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:07 | |
-There was no problem, really, -for me to play with the boys... | 0:20:08 | 0:20:13 | |
-..on the streets or in school. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:16 | |
-Laura didn't play for a team until -she went to college in London... | 0:20:17 | 0:20:22 | |
-..and joined the Millwall Lionesses. | 0:20:22 | 0:20:25 | |
-Back in Wales, -she joined Cardiff City FC. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:28 | |
-In 1992, with two of her co-players, -she went to see Alun Evans... | 0:20:29 | 0:20:33 | |
-..FAW President at the time. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:37 | |
-They asked the Association to -establish a women's national team. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:42 | |
-Alun was very supportive. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:44 | |
-I don't think many Association -council members were as supportive. | 0:20:45 | 0:20:51 | |
-They asked, -"Why give money to women?" | 0:20:51 | 0:20:55 | |
-On the other hand, -the FAW treated the women's team... | 0:20:55 | 0:21:00 | |
-..the same as the men, -from the start... | 0:21:00 | 0:21:04 | |
-..which was excellent. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:06 | |
-The work done by the Association -since founding the team... | 0:21:07 | 0:21:11 | |
-..has been pioneering, -in the British context. | 0:21:11 | 0:21:15 | |
-We've developed the game from -grassroots to international level. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:21 | |
-Now, there's a pathway for women, -from community games... | 0:21:21 | 0:21:25 | |
-..to regional teams, then national -teams under 14 and under 16... | 0:21:26 | 0:21:32 | |
-..then the senior squad. | 0:21:33 | 0:21:35 | |
-Wales will be playing Austria -in a few days' time. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:41 | |
-I noticed that only three girls -play for Welsh clubs... | 0:21:41 | 0:21:46 | |
-..all in Cardiff, as it happens. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:48 | |
-Will that change? | 0:21:49 | 0:21:50 | |
-I'm thinking of clubs -like Cardiff, Swansea or Cwmbran. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:54 | |
-Are other clubs -establishing women's teams? | 0:21:54 | 0:21:58 | |
-Many clubs are now... | 0:21:58 | 0:22:00 | |
-..especially after launching -the Women's Welsh Premier League. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:05 | |
-But at the moment... | 0:22:05 | 0:22:07 | |
-..the club standard is much -higher in England than Wales. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:12 | |
-The best players -go over the bridge... | 0:22:13 | 0:22:16 | |
-..to play for teams -like Bristol and Manchester City. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:21 | |
-Players like Tash Harding and Jess -Fishlock have gone to the USA. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:27 | |
-But I think the league -is developing. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:33 | |
-When the league is stronger, I hope -many more players stay in Wales. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:40 | |
-Welsh football is prospering now. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:47 | |
-It seems to have overcome -the historical problems. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:51 | |
-The pulpit has embraced football. | 0:22:52 | 0:22:54 | |
-Women's teams get -the support they deserve. | 0:22:54 | 0:22:58 | |
-Even the media have started -to wake up to the fact... | 0:22:59 | 0:23:03 | |
-..that football has won -its place in the national psyche. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:07 | |
-Rugby, too, plays an important -part in our communities. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:11 | |
-Despite the old differences, -there is plenty of collaboration... | 0:23:11 | 0:23:16 | |
-..and plenty of people -who support both games. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:20 | |
-As Gary Speed said... | 0:23:20 | 0:23:21 | |
-"..I want Wales to win... | 0:23:22 | 0:23:23 | |
-"..at football, -rugby or tiddlywinks." | 0:23:24 | 0:23:26 | |
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