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-The story of Welsh football -is one worth telling. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:07 | |
-Like in all good stories, -there are heroes... | 0:00:07 | 0:00:10 | |
-..and villains. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:12 | |
-There are tough, physical battles... | 0:00:13 | 0:00:17 | |
-..and emotional ones. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:20 | |
-In the series, -I'll visit village grounds... | 0:00:21 | 0:00:24 | |
-Save! | 0:00:25 | 0:00:26 | |
-..and city stadiums. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:28 | |
-I'll meet the people -who helped shape the game in Wales. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:32 | |
-Come on! | 0:00:46 | 0:00:48 | |
-Come on! | 0:00:51 | 0:00:52 | |
-Come on, Blaenau. Get at them! | 0:00:52 | 0:00:55 | |
-The national team -has done us proud as a nation. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:05 | |
-But it's the big or small teams -we support... | 0:01:05 | 0:01:08 | |
-..that occupy -our time during the season. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:12 | |
-Between August and May... | 0:01:12 | 0:01:15 | |
-..on Friday nights, -Saturdays or Sundays... | 0:01:15 | 0:01:19 | |
-..we watch our team in the ground, -the pub or on the sofa. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:23 | |
-It's that feeling -of belonging to a tribe... | 0:01:24 | 0:01:28 | |
-..that gives us our identity. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:31 | |
-But there are other tribes -all over the country... | 0:01:31 | 0:01:35 | |
-..and the relationship between them -isn't always harmonious... | 0:01:35 | 0:01:40 | |
-..especially neighbouring teams. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:43 | |
-In derbies, -geography is an important factor. | 0:01:45 | 0:01:49 | |
-There's nothing like -rubbing the noses... | 0:01:56 | 0:01:59 | |
-..of the nearest town -or village in the mud... | 0:02:00 | 0:02:03 | |
-..to give them a thrashing... | 0:02:03 | 0:02:05 | |
-..and secure the bragging rights -until the next meeting. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:11 | |
-One of the earliest -recorded derbies... | 0:02:12 | 0:02:15 | |
-..was played here, -in Newport, Pembrokeshire. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:20 | |
-It wasn't football as we know it. | 0:02:21 | 0:02:24 | |
-It was called the cnapan, rugby -football's mediaeval predecessor. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:30 | |
-There's a vivid account of a match -between Newport and Nevern... | 0:02:33 | 0:02:38 | |
-..in 1603. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:40 | |
-"It is of warlike providence. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:45 | |
-"There are oftentimes been esteemed -two thousand foot beside horsemen. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:50 | |
-"About one or two of the clock -afternoon begins the play. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:54 | |
-"The foot company thus meeting... | 0:02:54 | 0:02:57 | |
-"..there is a round ball -prepared of a reasonable quantity... | 0:02:57 | 0:02:59 | |
-"..so that a man may -hold it in his hand. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:02 | |
-"This ball is of some massy wood -and should be boiled in tallow... | 0:03:02 | 0:03:06 | |
-"..to make it slippery -and hard to hold. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:08 | |
-"This ball is called cnapan... | 0:03:08 | 0:03:10 | |
-"..and it is by one of the company -hurling bolt upright into the air. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:13 | |
-"He that catches it hurls it towards -the country he plays for. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:18 | |
-"The play is not given over until -the cnapan be so far carried... | 0:03:19 | 0:03:23 | |
-"..that there is no hope -to return it back that night." | 0:03:24 | 0:03:27 | |
-Things could turn nasty. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:30 | |
-There were even deaths. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:33 | |
-That's why the game's -resurrection was cancelled... | 0:03:33 | 0:03:37 | |
-..in Nevern in 1995. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:40 | |
-Not that anyone was killed. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:42 | |
-But the insurance company -reckoned it could happen! | 0:03:42 | 0:03:47 | |
-A series of brutal derbies -that have not ended in death... | 0:03:49 | 0:03:53 | |
-..not so far anyway, are fought -between villages in Conwy... | 0:03:53 | 0:03:57 | |
-..Llansannan, Llannefydd, -Llangernyw and Cerrigydrudion. | 0:03:58 | 0:04:02 | |
-Tonight, it's the big -Llansannan v Bro Cernyw derby. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:10 | |
-It's played -on the Llansannan ground... | 0:04:10 | 0:04:14 | |
-..known locally as the Llan Siro. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:17 | |
-Who needs de Jong and Balotelli... | 0:04:18 | 0:04:21 | |
-..when you've got Aled Pencraig -and Geraint Bodeiliog?! | 0:04:21 | 0:04:25 | |
-They're known locally -as Pencs and Bodeli. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:29 | |
-It's getting a little tasty. -The tackles are flying in. | 0:04:41 | 0:04:46 | |
-A goal will probably settle it. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:48 | |
-It's going to get messy. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:57 | |
-WHISTLE | 0:05:02 | 0:05:04 | |
-Fair play! | 0:05:04 | 0:05:07 | |
-FINAL WHISTLE | 0:05:08 | 0:05:10 | |
-Llansannan lost by 1-0. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:12 | |
-They went to the local pub -to lick their wounds. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:17 | |
-Aled is Llansannan's player/manager. -It was a hard, close game. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:22 | |
-How does it feel, -losing to the next village? | 0:05:22 | 0:05:25 | |
-It isn't very nice... | 0:05:26 | 0:05:28 | |
-..especially considering we've won -most of the recent derbies. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:31 | |
-And the cameras were there! -Gutted. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:36 | |
-You've played in a lot of derbies. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:38 | |
-Yes. I only recently moved back. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:42 | |
-The derbies go back -to the eighties and nineties. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:46 | |
-They're important. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:48 | |
-Are they as hard -as they were years ago? | 0:05:49 | 0:05:53 | |
-There were quite a lot -of punches thrown in the nineties. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:58 | |
-It's friendlier nowadays. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:02 | |
-At the end of the day... | 0:06:03 | 0:06:05 | |
-..you have a pint together. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:09 | |
-We forget the game in the pub. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:12 | |
-We all get along. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:15 | |
-Enjoy your pint. Unlucky. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:17 | |
-Enjoy your pint. Unlucky. - -Thanks! | 0:06:17 | 0:06:18 | |
-Thanks for having us. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:20 | |
-Thanks for having us. - -Great. Thanks. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:22 | |
-It's playful, -tongue-in-cheek rivalry over here. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:35 | |
-But historically, it's been -considerably more serious. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:40 | |
-There are records of incidents -dating back over a century. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:46 | |
-The National Library of Wales... | 0:06:48 | 0:06:51 | |
-..houses the FAW's -official archives. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:54 | |
-They've given me the go-ahead -to pore over their annual reports. | 0:06:55 | 0:07:00 | |
-As far back as 1878... | 0:07:00 | 0:07:02 | |
-..in a game between Wrexham -and the Druids... | 0:07:02 | 0:07:06 | |
-..the Druids' fans -attacked the Wrexham team... | 0:07:06 | 0:07:10 | |
-..with stones, sticks -and pieces of turf! | 0:07:10 | 0:07:14 | |
-This wasn't a one-off incident. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:17 | |
-These boxes contain -the FAW committee reports... | 0:07:17 | 0:07:23 | |
-..from 1893 to 1986. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:27 | |
-You'd be surprised at the number -of incidents of serious misconduct. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:33 | |
-Right. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:43 | |
-In 1905, there are reams of clubs... | 0:07:44 | 0:07:48 | |
-..who were banned or fined... | 0:07:48 | 0:07:52 | |
-..for incidents like this. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:55 | |
-"Referee rendered unconscious." | 0:07:55 | 0:07:58 | |
-From what I see... | 0:07:58 | 0:08:01 | |
-..that wasn't unusual. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:04 | |
-The following year, in 1906... | 0:08:04 | 0:08:07 | |
-..the referee in the -New Tredegar v Pontlottyn game... | 0:08:07 | 0:08:11 | |
-..was almost thrown in the river. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:15 | |
-Only the players stopped it -from happening. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:19 | |
-In Holywell, a referee was -locked in the changing room... | 0:08:19 | 0:08:23 | |
-..for his own safety. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:25 | |
-I like this one. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:28 | |
-The clubs could respond to charges. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:32 | |
-Llanfyllin FC complained about -trouble in the Llanymynech game. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:36 | |
-This is how -they answered the accusation. | 0:08:37 | 0:08:41 | |
-"A reply has been -received from Llanymynech... | 0:08:42 | 0:08:45 | |
-"..stating that if any -disturbance had taken place... | 0:08:45 | 0:08:49 | |
-"..they were unaware of it." | 0:08:49 | 0:08:51 | |
-Fair enough. I saw nothing. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:53 | |
-It wasn't confined -to the early 1900s. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:57 | |
-Half a century later, in 1948... | 0:08:57 | 0:09:00 | |
-..it was still going on, -much like before... | 0:09:00 | 0:09:04 | |
-..with scores of clubs -being penalized. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:07 | |
-Penmaenmawr, Connah's Quay, Machno. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:10 | |
-That isn't unexpected. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:13 | |
-Llechid, Nantlle Vale. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:15 | |
-That doesn't surprise me either. | 0:09:16 | 0:09:19 | |
-Shotton, Carmel, -Brecon, Aberdyfi, Llanidloes. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:23 | |
-I don't believe this one. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:26 | |
-Blaenau! | 0:09:27 | 0:09:28 | |
-In Blaenau... | 0:09:28 | 0:09:30 | |
-..the referee was struck -to the ground, twice - and kicked. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:35 | |
-Very disappointing. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:37 | |
-. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:38 | |
-Subtitles | 0:09:41 | 0:09:41 | |
-Subtitles - -Subtitles | 0:09:41 | 0:09:43 | |
-The term hooligan first -appeared in the 1890s. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:49 | |
-However, it wasn't linked -to football until the 1960s. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:55 | |
-Back then, it was more -vandalism than violence. | 0:09:55 | 0:09:59 | |
-The "football special" trains -that took them to away games... | 0:10:00 | 0:10:04 | |
-..were trashed -on more than one occasion. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:07 | |
-In the 1970s, hooliganism -was rarely out of the headlines. | 0:10:08 | 0:10:14 | |
-In 1974... | 0:10:17 | 0:10:19 | |
-..the Red Army, -Man United fans, were notorious. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:24 | |
-Between 6,000 and 10,000 -travelled to away games... | 0:10:24 | 0:10:28 | |
-..in the old Division Two. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:30 | |
-They wreaked havoc -wherever they went. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:33 | |
-They came to Cardiff in August 1974. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:36 | |
-The Bluebirds' fans weren't going -to take any of their nonsense. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:42 | |
-On Tudor Street, and nearby -streets, and the game itself... | 0:10:42 | 0:10:47 | |
-..things turned nasty. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:49 | |
-Two o'clock outside the ground. | 0:10:55 | 0:10:57 | |
-It's beginning to boil over, -an hour before the game. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:02 | |
-Some fans were bundled -into vans before kick-off. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:09 | |
-Cardiff fans were in the Grange End. -Most didn't watch the game. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:17 | |
-They were too busy taunting -the United fans. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:20 | |
-Red Army! Red Army! | 0:11:20 | 0:11:23 | |
-Two years later, in 1976, -when Wales played Yugoslavia... | 0:11:27 | 0:11:32 | |
-..Ninian Park was back -in the headlines... | 0:11:32 | 0:11:35 | |
-..for the wrong reasons again. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:37 | |
-..for the wrong reasons again. - -A sad afternoon for Wales. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:39 | |
-Yugoslavia go on. -Jerkovic has a go at a spectator. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:44 | |
-These scenes led to a two year ban -for Wales from European games. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:50 | |
-But more was needed -to deal with the problem. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:53 | |
-In the 1970s, -it was trendy to be a hooligan. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:59 | |
-Young people thought, "This is the -way to be hard and make friends." | 0:11:59 | 0:12:04 | |
-Things started to change -in the late 1980s. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:08 | |
-The new culture was Ecstasy, -nightclubs and dancing... | 0:12:08 | 0:12:12 | |
-..not fighting. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:14 | |
-It helped take hooliganism -out of football. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:17 | |
-But most importantly... | 0:12:17 | 0:12:19 | |
-..the game began to understand -how to deal with hooligans. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:23 | |
-There was more CCTV -and police in stadiums. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:27 | |
-After Hillsborough, all-seater -stadiums were introduced. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:32 | |
-They were safer, but also -helped combat hooliganism. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:36 | |
-Basically, it's much harder to cause -trouble if you're sitting down. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:41 | |
-Although all-seater stadiums -helped fight hooliganism... | 0:12:41 | 0:12:46 | |
-..many supporters -still miss the terraces. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:50 | |
-Clubs like Bangor are considering -bringing in safe terraces. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:57 | |
-They've been a success in Germany. | 0:12:57 | 0:13:00 | |
-Supporters would accept -changes like these... | 0:13:00 | 0:13:04 | |
-..but not changes that threaten -a club's history and identity. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:10 | |
-When Vincent Tan -bought Cardiff City FC... | 0:13:10 | 0:13:13 | |
-..his controversial decision -to change the kit colour to red... | 0:13:13 | 0:13:18 | |
-..drove away many -loyal club supporters. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:22 | |
-It's often the new owners -and their "different" ideas... | 0:13:23 | 0:13:26 | |
-..not to mention their debts, -that cause problems. | 0:13:27 | 0:13:30 | |
-It undermines the supporters' -feeling of ownership of the club. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:35 | |
-CHANT | 0:13:35 | 0:13:37 | |
-# We'll always be blue # | 0:13:37 | 0:13:40 | |
-But one club's story -is slightly different. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:44 | |
-The New Saints FC has undergone -quite a few metamorphoses... | 0:13:44 | 0:13:49 | |
-..over the years. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:50 | |
-I'm on English ground in Oswestry. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:55 | |
-But the club plays -in the Welsh Premier League. | 0:13:56 | 0:13:59 | |
-Their story is -an effective reflection... | 0:13:59 | 0:14:03 | |
-..of what defines -a football club's identity. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:06 | |
-Ten miles from Oswestry, -back in Wales... | 0:14:07 | 0:14:10 | |
-..there's a small village, -Llansantffraid-ym-Mechain. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:14 | |
-A football club -was founded there in 1959. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:17 | |
-In 1996, after an amazing run -in the Welsh League... | 0:14:18 | 0:14:21 | |
-..the club signed a contract... | 0:14:21 | 0:14:24 | |
-..with computer company, -Total Network Solutions. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:28 | |
-But there were conditions. | 0:14:29 | 0:14:31 | |
-It's hard to put a price on success. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:33 | |
-But it happened -in Llansantffraid-ym-Mechain. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:37 | |
-Since 1997, the team plays under -the name Total Network Solutions. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:42 | |
-But more than the name changed. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:45 | |
-The club's identity -was further threatened. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:48 | |
-When TNS and Oswestry FC -merged in 2007... | 0:14:49 | 0:14:52 | |
-..the club moved to Oswestry -because of the better facilities. | 0:14:52 | 0:14:56 | |
-Suddenly, the people -of Llansantffraid... | 0:14:57 | 0:15:00 | |
-..faced a situation they hadn't -experienced for fifty years. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:04 | |
-No football in the village. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:07 | |
-So, they decided -to start from scratch... | 0:15:07 | 0:15:10 | |
-..once more. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:12 | |
-Gwynfor Hughes supported the club... | 0:15:13 | 0:15:15 | |
-..before the arrival of Total -Network Solutions' big money. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:20 | |
-What do you remember -about the time that TNS arrived? | 0:15:20 | 0:15:24 | |
-They changed the club's name. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:26 | |
-There was bad feeling, -to be honest, because of that. | 0:15:27 | 0:15:33 | |
-But people thought, -"This is the way forward." | 0:15:33 | 0:15:37 | |
-The committee decided this was -the way, and that's what happened. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:43 | |
-What happened when TNS left -and merged with Oswestry? | 0:15:45 | 0:15:49 | |
-They moved the game from -Llansantffraid over the border. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:54 | |
-It wasn't Llansantffraid's club -any more, nor a Welsh club. | 0:15:56 | 0:16:01 | |
-There was bad feeling in Oswestry -too because of this business. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:07 | |
-It was double-edged in a way. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:10 | |
-You're back in Llansantffraid now. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:13 | |
-Are the supporters returning? -Are the players local? | 0:16:14 | 0:16:18 | |
-Do they feel the club is theirs? | 0:16:18 | 0:16:20 | |
-Few come here, to be honest. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:24 | |
-Nevertheless... | 0:16:25 | 0:16:27 | |
-..it gives local players -a chance to show what they can do. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:32 | |
-With a bit of luck, -things will improve in time. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:37 | |
-Maybe TNS has the money, -success and facilities. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:43 | |
-I suppose you're the richest, -in a historical sense. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:48 | |
-You're right. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:50 | |
-It's the village. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:53 | |
-TNS is a business. | 0:16:55 | 0:16:57 | |
-This wasn't a business. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:00 | |
-It was a football club, -a local club. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:03 | |
-And it was very successful. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:06 | |
-Now, football clubs can develop -their brand and identity online. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:12 | |
-An increasing number of clubs -see the value of social media. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:18 | |
-Bala is a leader in this respect. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:22 | |
-They have attracted supporters -from all over Wales and England... | 0:17:22 | 0:17:27 | |
-..with their online presence -and tweets. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:31 | |
-The town has 2,000 inhabitants. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:34 | |
-They have 8,000 -followers on Twitter. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:37 | |
-Before the internet, supporters -voiced their opinions in fanzines. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:42 | |
-The first was Foul, back in 1972. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:45 | |
-But it all exploded with When -Saturday Comes in the mid-1980s. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:50 | |
-It's still in circulation. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:53 | |
-Although his fingers -aren't ink-stained now... | 0:17:54 | 0:17:58 | |
-..in the early 1990s, Dylan -Llewelyn edited several fanzines. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:03 | |
-Wales has produced -many great literary works. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:07 | |
-For me, these are -the greatest treasures. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:11 | |
-Well, thanks. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:12 | |
-Thanks for the praise! | 0:18:12 | 0:18:14 | |
-It's scary, how long ago it was... | 0:18:14 | 0:18:17 | |
-..how young and idealistic I was. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:21 | |
-Listening to John Peel -was an impetus to start it. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:26 | |
-He talked about fanzines. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:29 | |
-I wrote letters -and posted money to buy fanzines. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:33 | |
-When Saturday Comes was the bible. -I have every copy. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:37 | |
-This is the first issue. -I treasure them. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:41 | |
-If the house is on fire, -these will be saved first. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:45 | |
-It's similar to punk. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:48 | |
-It's the idea that anyone can do it. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:50 | |
-It's the idea that anyone can do it. - -DIY. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:51 | |
-If you had the desire, -if you had a biro... | 0:18:51 | 0:18:54 | |
-..or typewriter, if you were posh... | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
-..you could do it. | 0:18:57 | 0:18:59 | |
-A friend and I created -a fanzine, Five To Three. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:03 | |
-In no time, we were selling -1,000 per month. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:06 | |
-A shop in London, Sportspages, -took 200 a month. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:12 | |
-We typed, cut things out -and put pieces in place. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:16 | |
-Then we photocopied -and stapled them. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:20 | |
-It's good that it's DIY -and grassroots. You're independent. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:25 | |
-You don't bow -to editorial censorship. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:28 | |
-Exactly. It was -a totally different world. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:31 | |
-Now, people respond immediately -on social websites, Twitter... | 0:19:31 | 0:19:36 | |
-..and radio programmes. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:38 | |
-There was nothing like that. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:40 | |
-Football was -the lowest of the low. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:43 | |
-It was a way to voice your opinion. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:46 | |
-Many made a political point too. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:49 | |
-Some were very political -from the start. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:53 | |
-We were part of a protest -about ID cards, many years ago. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:57 | |
-Colin Moynihan, the Sport Minister, -was bluntly told to "go away". | 0:19:58 | 0:20:03 | |
-Bluebird Jones had -a very political slant... | 0:20:04 | 0:20:07 | |
-..protesting about how the police -interfered with supporters' rights. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:13 | |
-It satirised racism and hooliganism. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:17 | |
-70's Man. What a character. | 0:20:22 | 0:20:25 | |
-What was the first -football fanzine in Wales? | 0:20:45 | 0:20:49 | |
-As far as I know, -the first fanzine in Wales... | 0:20:49 | 0:20:52 | |
-..was Five To Three, -written by my friend and I. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:56 | |
-But the first in Welsh... | 0:20:56 | 0:20:58 | |
-..was Dwy Droed Chwith. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:01 | |
-You wrote that too. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:03 | |
-It was the first and last fanzine. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:05 | |
-The sales were so amazing! | 0:21:06 | 0:21:08 | |
-Are fanzines still going now, -with their DIY aspect? | 0:21:08 | 0:21:13 | |
-To be honest? No. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:17 | |
-You won't get this. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:19 | |
-They're glossier now. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:21 | |
-They're colourful, they have photos. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:25 | |
-People have caught up -with technology. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:28 | |
-But I miss this kind of thing. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:31 | |
-There's nothing wrong -with ink coming off on your hands. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:35 | |
-# Abide With Me # | 0:21:35 | 0:21:37 | |
-Another way supporters -express identity is by singing. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:41 | |
-Wales supporters have -a long history of doing this. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:46 | |
-When Cardiff played Arsenal -in the FA Cup Final in 1927... | 0:21:46 | 0:21:51 | |
-..both teams' supporters sang -Abide With Me for the first time. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:55 | |
-The iconic song is now part -of the competition's tradition. | 0:21:56 | 0:22:00 | |
-We in Wales have -our iconic songs too. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:05 | |
-As a Wrexham supporter... | 0:22:11 | 0:22:13 | |
-..THE song is Wrexham, -sung on the melody Men Of Harlech. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:17 | |
-It's sung by Wales supporters too. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:20 | |
-It has been sung by Wrexham -supporters since the 1970s. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:24 | |
-All the supporters know the words. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:27 | |
-"Fearless in devotion, -rising to promotion" | 0:22:27 | 0:22:31 | |
-The song is still sung today... | 0:22:31 | 0:22:33 | |
-..although we aren't -talking about promotion now. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:37 | |
-But Wales supporters just sing... | 0:22:37 | 0:22:40 | |
-# Duh duh duh duh duh duh # | 0:22:40 | 0:22:42 | |
-I think it's time -Wales supporters... | 0:22:42 | 0:22:46 | |
-..followed Wrexham's lead -and learnt the words. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:49 | |
-Football is a game that quickens -the heart, sometimes to extremes... | 0:22:50 | 0:22:55 | |
-..from Ninian Park's terraces -to Llansannan's football pitch. | 0:22:56 | 0:23:01 | |
-BACKGROUND CHAT | 0:23:03 | 0:23:05 | |
-Football players and supporters... | 0:23:11 | 0:23:14 | |
-..sometimes kick lumps -out of each other. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
-It's tribal identity. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:19 | |
-But we should remember -the fraternity... | 0:23:19 | 0:23:23 | |
-..between all the game's -clubs and followers. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:27 | |
-As you hear from -the craic in the pub... | 0:23:27 | 0:23:30 | |
-..that's the essence of football. | 0:23:30 | 0:23:33 | |
-S4C Subtitles by Gwead | 0:23:49 | 0:23:51 | |
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