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Thank you very much. Welcome to a unique event on BBC One. A | :00:46. | :00:50. | |
provocative argument put by a forceful speaker, with no | :00:50. | :00:55. | |
interviewer to interrupt, and an audience that, for once, listens | :00:55. | :00:59. | |
but doesn't speak. Tonight's lecture is given by a Nobel Prize | :00:59. | :01:02. | |
winner, a scientist at the top of his tree, the President of the | :01:02. | :01:08. | |
Royal Society, the world's oldest scientific academy, Sir Paul Nurse. | :01:08. | :01:14. | |
Now, Sir Paul's mission is to get all of us - politicians, teachers, | :01:14. | :01:17. | |
business people, the media - to accept the vital importance of | :01:18. | :01:26. | |
science in our lives and to do much, much more to promote it. Paul Nurse | :01:26. | :01:32. | |
is no science geek and his career ought to encourage all slow- | :01:33. | :01:37. | |
starters. He wasn't good at exams. He struggled to get a place at | :01:37. | :01:42. | |
university. Oh, and he's also a pilot, a mountain walker and he | :01:42. | :01:48. | |
rides a motorbike, a flashy one, bought with the money from his | :01:48. | :01:52. | |
Nobel Prize. LAUGHTER His next big project is the Francis Crick | :01:52. | :01:57. | |
Institute which will open in 2015. It is planned to be one of the | :01:57. | :02:01. | |
biggest biomedical laboratories in the world, with 1,500 scientists at | :02:01. | :02:06. | |
work here in London. As its director, he intends to make it, in | :02:06. | :02:13. | |
his own words, a hot house of scientific ideas. His Nobel Prize | :02:13. | :02:17. | |
for Medicine was awarded for work on the division of cells which has | :02:17. | :02:21. | |
many implications, including for the treatment of cancer, the | :02:21. | :02:26. | |
illness that killed my father when he was only 52. And his death led | :02:26. | :02:35. | |
to the creation of the charity Dimbleby Cancer Care. Richard | :02:35. | :02:41. | |
Dimbleby was the BBC's first news reporter, the first war | :02:41. | :02:45. | |
correspondent and a trailblazer in the development of television in | :02:45. | :02:51. | |
the '50s and the '60s. 40 years ago this annual lecture was set up by | :02:51. | :02:56. | |
the BBC to commemorate him. It's established a formidable reputation | :02:57. | :03:02. | |
and I have no doubt that tonight's lecture will further enhance it. | :03:02. | :03:12. | |
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Ladies and gentlemen, would you Thank you, David. The Dimbleby | :03:31. | :03:36. | |
family, ladies and gentlemen, this evening I am going to talk about my | :03:36. | :03:42. | |
passion for science. I have very personal reasons for doing so. | :03:42. | :03:47. | |
Recently, science saved my life. Let me explain. Just before | :03:47. | :03:52. | |
Christmas, I was planning a trip to the Antarctic Research station at | :03:52. | :03:57. | |
Scott Base. I was to be there at the 100th anniversary of Captain | :03:57. | :04:00. | |
Scott's expedition to the South Pole. I have wanted to visit the | :04:00. | :04:05. | |
Antarctic for years and before going, I went for a routine medical | :04:05. | :04:11. | |
check-up. But the medical turned out to be far from routine. I was | :04:11. | :04:16. | |
diagnosed with a serious heart disease, and in January I had a | :04:16. | :04:21. | |
quadruple heart bypass. The South Pole had to wait, but thanks to the | :04:21. | :04:25. | |
skill of my NHS doctors, I am delighted to say some of them are | :04:25. | :04:29. | |
in the audience tonight, and to the science which underpinned my | :04:29. | :04:35. | |
treatment, I am still alive and I am able to be here tonight. I'm | :04:35. | :04:38. | |
also passionate about science because I have been a researcher | :04:38. | :04:42. | |
for over 40 years and want to share with you the wonder of science, | :04:42. | :04:48. | |
what it is like to be a scientist, how it enhances our culture, our | :04:48. | :04:52. | |
civilisation. Science can improve our health and quality of life, | :04:52. | :04:56. | |
help solve the world's biggest problems, and support | :04:56. | :04:59. | |
sustainability. It influences nearly everything we do, from | :04:59. | :05:04. | |
heating our homes, turning on the radio, using our phone, browsing | :05:04. | :05:11. | |
the internet, the food we eat, the pill we take for our headache. And | :05:11. | :05:16. | |
science is absolutely essential to drive our economy. Science matters | :05:16. | :05:22. | |
to us all. Science not only enriches our minds, it can also | :05:23. | :05:27. | |
provide a trusted guide to tackle global problems that face us right | :05:27. | :05:32. | |
now, such as feeding the world, ensuring we have sufficient energy, | :05:32. | :05:40. | |
keeping an yoo ageing population healthy. -- an ageing population | :05:40. | :05:43. | |
healthy. I also believe that science can play an even greater | :05:43. | :05:46. | |
role in improving our economy, in protecting our jobs and incomes. I | :05:46. | :05:51. | |
want to remind you of a time when science helped make Britain an | :05:51. | :05:53. | |
economic powerhouse during the Enlightenment and Industrial | :05:53. | :05:58. | |
Revolution, and to explore how we can make science work to better | :05:58. | :06:06. | |
drive our economy today. But first, my own passion for science. It | :06:06. | :06:10. | |
began when I was a nine-year-old boy. It was 1958, the beginning of | :06:10. | :06:15. | |
the space-age. I was looking up at the London night sky and saw | :06:15. | :06:21. | |
amongst the stars one that was rapidly moving and was very bright. | :06:21. | :06:25. | |
This was Sputnik 2, the second man- made satellite to orbit the Earth, | :06:25. | :06:30. | |
and inside was a dog called Laika. I must admit I felt sorry for Laika | :06:31. | :06:37. | |
because I had a dog of my own. Watching this artificial star | :06:37. | :06:41. | |
moving in the night sky made me think about the other stars, so I | :06:41. | :06:45. | |
went to my local public library and discovered that stars were suns, | :06:45. | :06:49. | |
that there were galaxies up there, too, and some of the stars were | :06:49. | :06:54. | |
planets. I pes pered my parents for a small telescope and I found I | :06:54. | :06:59. | |
could see the crescent of Venus, the moons of Jupiter, the rings of | :06:59. | :07:04. | |
Saturn, the craters of the moon. Go out early tomorrow evening and you | :07:04. | :07:08. | |
will see Venus and Jupiter to the west, and Saturn to the south. Use | :07:08. | :07:13. | |
a telescope if you can. Seeing such marvels for yourself is much more | :07:13. | :07:19. | |
immediate and personal than looking at images on the television. The | :07:19. | :07:24. | |
natural world is fascinating, and is even more so if you are prepared | :07:24. | :07:29. | |
to observe, to experiment, to think, and to try and understand. That is | :07:30. | :07:34. | |
what scientists do, and there is a little bit of the scientist in all | :07:34. | :07:40. | |
of us, especially when we are children. I am passionate about | :07:40. | :07:45. | |
doing science and completely agree with Sir Humphry Davy, the 19th | :07:45. | :07:48. | |
Century chemist and inventor of the miners' safety lamp when he said, | :07:49. | :07:52. | |
"To me, there has never been a higher source of honour or | :07:52. | :07:57. | |
distinction than that connected with the advances in science." That | :07:57. | :08:04. | |
is why I still run a lab - it's what keeps me sane. I'm not sure my | :08:04. | :08:08. | |
lab colleagues, some of whom are here tonight, would agree on the | :08:08. | :08:13. | |
last point. So what is special about science that means we should | :08:13. | :08:19. | |
trust it? What makes it so good at generating reliable knowledge about | :08:19. | :08:24. | |
the natural world? Scientists work in a variety of ways that are not | :08:24. | :08:28. | |
unique to science. For example, they need a historian's eye for | :08:28. | :08:32. | |
detail, the mathematician's feel for logic, the philosopher's desire | :08:32. | :08:37. | |
to keep asking questions - and some would say the patience of a saint. | :08:37. | :08:41. | |
When the various ways scientists work are combined together, they | :08:41. | :08:47. | |
produce a process that is a very powerful way of creating knowledge. | :08:47. | :08:52. | |
The bedrock from which all science flows is reproducible observation | :08:52. | :08:57. | |
and experiment. This means that ultimately what is observed - the | :08:57. | :09:03. | |
data - trumps all, even the most beautiful idea. Scientists need to | :09:03. | :09:07. | |
take account of all observations and experiments and not just | :09:07. | :09:11. | |
cherry-pick data that happen to support their own ideas and | :09:11. | :09:15. | |
theories. Scientific issues are settled by the overall strength of | :09:15. | :09:21. | |
evidence. Often a particular idea drives what observations a | :09:21. | :09:25. | |
scientist makes, but sometimes scientists make observations | :09:25. | :09:30. | |
without a precise idea or hypothesis in mind. More | :09:30. | :09:34. | |
whimsically, I call this "following where nature leads you". An example | :09:34. | :09:38. | |
of this from my own research, back in the 1970s, was when I was | :09:38. | :09:42. | |
investigating what controls the division of cells, a problem of | :09:42. | :09:47. | |
great importance for the growth and reproduction of all life, and for | :09:47. | :09:51. | |
understanding cancer. I was searching for genes needed for cell | :09:51. | :09:56. | |
division, by looking for yeast mutants which could not divide. | :09:56. | :10:01. | |
Such mutant cells get bigger and bigger and can be spotted under the | :10:01. | :10:05. | |
microscope. I have been searching for these large-sized cells for | :10:05. | :10:09. | |
months when I spotted something quite different, a clump of cells | :10:09. | :10:14. | |
doing the opposite, dividing at a small size. I was not looking for | :10:14. | :10:17. | |
such cells, it was just that nature presented them to me. But as soon | :10:17. | :10:21. | |
as I saw them, I realised they meant something important. I | :10:21. | :10:28. | |
dragged everyone in the lab, and a few passers-by as well to take a | :10:28. | :10:33. | |
look. I was very excited and I am sure some people thought I had gone | :10:33. | :10:38. | |
a little mad. This clump of cells had a mutated gene which made the | :10:38. | :10:42. | |
cells divide faster than normal, so they did not have enough time to | :10:42. | :10:50. | |
grow to their proper size. discovered these smalls in | :10:50. | :10:55. | |
Edinburgh, so I called the new gene the "wee" gene. It works like the | :10:55. | :10:59. | |
accelerator in a car. An accelerator determines how fast a | :10:59. | :11:05. | |
car goes and a "wee" gene determine how fast a cell divides. Eventually, | :11:05. | :11:09. | |
this led to the discovery that "wee" genes also control cell | :11:09. | :11:14. | |
division in all of us, establishing that there is a universal mechanism | :11:14. | :11:20. | |
controlling cell division in nearly all life. It formed the basis for | :11:20. | :11:25. | |
my Nobel Prize and emphasises the role serendipity can play in | :11:25. | :11:31. | |
scientific discovery. But observations alone are not enough. | :11:31. | :11:36. | |
It is the ability to prove that something is not true which is at | :11:36. | :11:41. | |
the centre of science. This distinguishes it from beliefs based | :11:41. | :11:45. | |
on religion and ideology which place much more emphasis on faith, | :11:46. | :11:50. | |
tradition, and opinion. As a scientist, I have come up with | :11:50. | :11:55. | |
ideas that can be tested. Then I think of experiments to test the | :11:55. | :11:58. | |
idea further. If the result of the experiment does not support the | :11:58. | :12:04. | |
idea, then I reject it, or modify it, and test it again. A great | :12:04. | :12:10. | |
recent example of the importance of testing is the experiment at CERN | :12:10. | :12:13. | |
which suggested that sub-atomic particles - neutrinos - were | :12:13. | :12:16. | |
travelling faster than the speed of light. If this turned out to be | :12:17. | :12:21. | |
true, then Einstein's theory of special relatively would need to be | :12:21. | :12:25. | |
revised. As you can imagine, the scientific community was amazed and | :12:25. | :12:29. | |
sceptical but they did not shout the CERN scientists down. Instead, | :12:29. | :12:34. | |
they encouraged them to do more experiments to further test their | :12:35. | :12:39. | |
hypothesis. I have been relying on my physicist daughter, Emily, who | :12:39. | :12:43. | |
works at CERN and University College London, to keep me updated. | :12:43. | :12:48. | |
The latest is, there might be either a loose connector or a | :12:48. | :12:53. | |
faulty clock, so Einstein can probably relax, at least for the | :12:53. | :12:59. | |
moment. Implicit in this approach is that scientific knowledge | :12:59. | :13:03. | |
evolves. Early on in a scientific study, knowledge is often tentative | :13:03. | :13:07. | |
and it is only after repeated testing that it becomes | :13:07. | :13:11. | |
increasingly secure. It is this process that makes science reliable, | :13:11. | :13:15. | |
but it takes time. This can lead to problems when scientists are called | :13:15. | :13:19. | |
upon to give advice on issues when the science is not yet complete. We | :13:19. | :13:22. | |
see this every day in the newspapers - whether breast | :13:23. | :13:28. | |
implants are safe or what foods are good or bad. The public want clear | :13:28. | :13:33. | |
and simple answers but sometimes that is not possible. People need | :13:33. | :13:38. | |
to understand this and we should start in our schools. Science is | :13:38. | :13:43. | |
taught based on the great ideas that have successfully undergone | :13:43. | :13:47. | |
much testing, such as those of Newton, Darwin and Einstein, and so | :13:47. | :13:52. | |
we tend to think all science is equally secure, as if written in | :13:52. | :13:57. | |
stone. But that may not be the case, particularly at an early stage in | :13:57. | :14:00. | |
research when knowledge is more tentative. This view of science | :14:00. | :14:04. | |
should receive greater emphasis at school, because the public would be | :14:04. | :14:14. | |
better able to appreciate how It's impossible to achieve complete | :14:14. | :14:17. | |
certainty on many complex scientific problems, yet sometimes | :14:17. | :14:22. | |
we still feed to take action. The sensible course is to turn to the | :14:22. | :14:27. | |
expert science tists for their consensus view. When doctors found | :14:27. | :14:30. | |
I had blockages in the arteries round my heart, I asked for their | :14:30. | :14:36. | |
expert view as to what I should do. They recommended a bypass. I took | :14:36. | :14:42. | |
their consensus advice and here I am. That is how science works. It | :14:42. | :14:47. | |
provides a strong corrective force in the development of scientific | :14:47. | :14:53. | |
knowledge. Look at the debate about climate change. The majority of | :14:53. | :14:57. | |
expert climate scientists have reached the consensus view that | :14:57. | :15:00. | |
human activity has resulted in global warming. Though there is | :15:00. | :15:03. | |
debate about how much the temperature will rise in the future. | :15:03. | :15:07. | |
Others argue that warming is not taking place at all or that it will | :15:07. | :15:11. | |
happen in a catastrophic way. But they have failed to persuade the | :15:11. | :15:15. | |
majority of climate experts, who have judged the scientific | :15:15. | :15:19. | |
arguments made to support the more extreme views as being too weak to | :15:19. | :15:26. | |
be convincing. There are personal qualities which are important for | :15:26. | :15:31. | |
science, including a sceptical attitude, honesty and transparency, | :15:31. | :15:35. | |
courtesy in scientific dispute, humility and self-doubt help as | :15:35. | :15:40. | |
well, as the 17th century philosopher of science Francis | :15:40. | :15:44. | |
Bacon said "If a man will begin with certainties he will end in | :15:44. | :15:50. | |
doubt. If he will be content to begin with doubts, he will end in | :15:50. | :15:53. | |
certainties." Put all this together and you have a process which can | :15:53. | :15:57. | |
offer extraordinary insights into the natural world. These range from | :15:57. | :16:04. | |
the profound to the quirky. I really liked an amusing example | :16:04. | :16:08. | |
which reconstructed the song of a cricket that lived 165 million | :16:08. | :16:16. | |
years ago. But the work of science can also require courage, as it | :16:16. | :16:21. | |
sometimes strikes at the heart of accepted thinking, challenging | :16:21. | :16:24. | |
established opinion is part of science and can bring about | :16:24. | :16:28. | |
revolutionary changes, which can be very unsettling. Displacing the | :16:28. | :16:31. | |
earth from the centre of the universe first to an orbit round | :16:31. | :16:36. | |
the sun and then to the arm of a galaxy, within an infittity of | :16:36. | :16:41. | |
galaxies has had a profound effect on the position of human kind. | :16:41. | :16:46. | |
Evolution had the same dramatic impact, moving us from being | :16:46. | :16:50. | |
specially created and separate from the rest of life to being related | :16:50. | :16:54. | |
to every living organism on the planet. Charles Darwin recognised | :16:54. | :17:01. | |
this in his descent of man, man with all his qualities, with | :17:01. | :17:05. | |
sympathy, benevolence, with his godlike intellect, with all these | :17:05. | :17:09. | |
exalted powers, man still bears in his bodily frame the indelible | :17:09. | :17:16. | |
stamp of his lowly origin. These ideas about the earth and human | :17:16. | :17:21. | |
kind were once unthinkable and her etical, but are now fully accepted | :17:21. | :17:25. | |
by all those who accept knowledge an the power of reason. Science | :17:25. | :17:30. | |
continues to be revolutionary and we always have to be ready for what | :17:30. | :17:36. | |
it might reveal. Improved knowledge of human embryology and increased | :17:36. | :17:40. | |
abltd to keep the unborn child alive have major implications for | :17:40. | :17:45. | |
when life begins and ends also for intervention such as abortion. | :17:45. | :17:49. | |
Studies of the brain will reveal correlations between neural | :17:49. | :17:53. | |
activity and what we are thinking, memories and our emotional states. | :17:53. | :17:58. | |
Increasingly we are likely to be able to use chemicals to alter | :17:58. | :18:01. | |
brain function and modify behaviours. Advances will have | :18:01. | :18:07. | |
consequences for our views on free will, on justice and diversity. How | :18:07. | :18:12. | |
much choice do we really have when we make decisions? Is punishment | :18:12. | :18:15. | |
for certain criminal behaviours right, if they are strongly | :18:15. | :18:20. | |
influenced by an individual's genes? Will working neuroscience | :18:20. | :18:23. | |
influence how we educate our children? These are issues of | :18:23. | :18:28. | |
crucial significance which can only be properly addressed if we enjoy a | :18:28. | :18:32. | |
healthy relationship between science and society. Scientists | :18:32. | :18:37. | |
need to identify issues early and to encourage open debate about the | :18:37. | :18:42. | |
implications and consequences of scientific and technological | :18:42. | :18:46. | |
advances. Such debates will sometimes be difficult, but they | :18:46. | :18:51. | |
must take place. This is essential if we are to have a society that is | :18:51. | :18:57. | |
comfortable with science and that can reap the benefits it can bring. | :18:57. | :19:02. | |
And science can bring us great practical, everyday benefits. It | :19:02. | :19:07. | |
has always been a useful art, generating knowledge that when | :19:07. | :19:11. | |
properly used, leads to application through technologies and | :19:11. | :19:16. | |
engineering for the public good. Again, at the birth of modern | :19:16. | :19:20. | |
science, Francis Bacon argued that scientific knowledge gives us a | :19:20. | :19:25. | |
power to relieve man's estate. Robert Hooke of the royal society | :19:25. | :19:28. | |
emphasised how scientific discoverries on motion, light, | :19:28. | :19:33. | |
gravity, magnetism an the heavens would improve shipping, watches, | :19:33. | :19:39. | |
optics and engines for trade and carriage. Today, the world faces | :19:39. | :19:45. | |
major problems. Some uppermost in my mind are food security, climate | :19:45. | :19:51. | |
change, global health and making economy sustainable, all of which | :19:52. | :19:56. | |
need science. It is critical for our democracy to have mature | :19:56. | :20:00. | |
discussions about these issues, but these debates are sometimes | :20:00. | :20:04. | |
threatened by a misinform fd sense of balance and inappropriate | :20:04. | :20:09. | |
headlines in the media which gives credence to views not supported by | :20:09. | :20:13. | |
the science. And also by those who distort the science with ideology, | :20:13. | :20:18. | |
politics and religion. From the very beginning of science, there | :20:18. | :20:24. | |
have always been such threats. When Galileo argued that the earth | :20:24. | :20:28. | |
orbited the sun, the inquisition did not argue back with science, | :20:28. | :20:33. | |
they simply showed him the instruments of torture. It is very | :20:33. | :20:36. | |
important that we keep such influences separate from scientific | :20:37. | :20:44. | |
debate. The time for politics is after the science not before. Let's | :20:44. | :20:49. | |
lock at food security. Ensuring that the world is properly fed, | :20:49. | :20:57. | |
this is already greatly helped by science. The Green Revolution | :20:57. | :21:00. | |
increased agricultural production in the 1960s through high yielding | :21:00. | :21:05. | |
cereals, better irrigation an the use of fertilisers and pesticides, | :21:05. | :21:08. | |
developments led by the scientist Norman Borlaug. The Green | :21:08. | :21:12. | |
Revolution is often credited with saving the lives of over a billion | :21:12. | :21:17. | |
people worldwide from starvation. However, some environmentalists did | :21:17. | :21:21. | |
not support these initiatives, leaving Borlaug to respond. Some of | :21:21. | :21:24. | |
the environmental lobbyists of the Western nations are the salt of the | :21:24. | :21:29. | |
earth. But many of them are elitist. They'd never experienced the | :21:29. | :21:33. | |
physical sensation of hunger. They do their lobbying from comfortable | :21:33. | :21:37. | |
office suites in Washington or Brussels. If they lived just one | :21:37. | :21:41. | |
month amid the misery of the developing world, as I have for 50 | :21:41. | :21:44. | |
years, they'd be crying out for tractors and fertiliser and | :21:44. | :21:49. | |
irrigation canals and the outrage that fashionable elitists back home | :21:49. | :21:55. | |
were trying to deny them these things. Science is once again | :21:55. | :21:59. | |
required to improve yields, to make agriculture more sustainable and to | :21:59. | :22:04. | |
extend the range of crops that can thrive in more marginal lands. This | :22:04. | :22:08. | |
can be helped through improving the growth of crops, assisting plant | :22:08. | :22:12. | |
breeding and by the genetic modification of plants, which will | :22:13. | :22:18. | |
generate crops of high productivity and reduce pesticide use, bet | :22:18. | :22:22. | |
prortecting the environment and biodiversity. It is time to re-open | :22:22. | :22:27. | |
the debate about GM crops in the UK, but this time, based on scientific | :22:27. | :22:31. | |
facts and analysis. We need to consider what the science has to | :22:31. | :22:35. | |
say about risks and benefits, uncoloured by commercial interests | :22:35. | :22:41. | |
and ideological opinion. It is not acceptable if we deny the world's | :22:41. | :22:45. | |
poorest access to way that's could help their food security, if that | :22:45. | :22:51. | |
denial is based on fashion and ill- informed opinion rather than good | :22:51. | :22:54. | |
science. Another great challenge for the world is climate change. | :22:54. | :22:59. | |
Discussions in this area impinge on politics, commercial interests and | :22:59. | :23:03. | |
strongly-held opinions. And these influences have distorted the | :23:03. | :23:07. | |
scientific debate. Solutions needed to counter global warming are | :23:07. | :23:10. | |
likely to require more concerted world action, regulating the | :23:11. | :23:15. | |
activities of the individual of industry and of the nation state | :23:15. | :23:21. | |
and such restrictions are an a anathema to some are particular | :23:21. | :23:24. | |
political and economic view points. Equally those of an opposite | :23:24. | :23:29. | |
viewpoint may exaggerate the extent of future global warming because of | :23:29. | :23:33. | |
their afints towards greater regulation and world Government | :23:34. | :23:37. | |
this leads some polemicists to confuse the debate by mixing the | :23:37. | :23:41. | |
science with the politics. The answer here is to focus on | :23:41. | :23:47. | |
transparency and good science. There is no room for pre-conceived | :23:47. | :23:52. | |
ideas. First we need the science, then the politics. Science will be | :23:52. | :23:56. | |
required to develop new ways of producing energy that are | :23:56. | :24:00. | |
environmentally less damaging, renewables like wind, wave, tidal | :24:00. | :24:05. | |
and solar energy should be evaluated, putting vested interests | :24:05. | :24:09. | |
aside to determine what is effective. The same applies to | :24:09. | :24:13. | |
nuclear power. Science is needed to properly assess the risks and | :24:13. | :24:18. | |
benefits. It is not sensible to respond in a need-jerk way without | :24:18. | :24:21. | |
evaluation of data concerning real environmental damage and health | :24:21. | :24:27. | |
risks, as against perceived damage and risks. Improved scientific | :24:27. | :24:31. | |
knowledge has brought remarkable improvements also in life | :24:32. | :24:37. | |
expectancy. 100 years ago, average life expectancy in the UK was about | :24:37. | :24:41. | |
50 years. Now it is around 80 years. Science will continue to be needed | :24:41. | :24:47. | |
to improve the world's health in the future. Human genetics will | :24:47. | :24:51. | |
identify genes which pre-dispose us to different diseases allowing us | :24:51. | :24:54. | |
to understand how genes influence disease and how they interact with | :24:54. | :24:58. | |
lifestyle and diet, promoting new ways to treat and prevent illness. | :24:58. | :25:03. | |
There is great promise for stem cells, which can generate a range | :25:03. | :25:08. | |
of tissues in the body, potentially repairing muscle and nerve tissue, | :25:08. | :25:12. | |
damage countering the effects of degenerative disease and old age. | :25:12. | :25:16. | |
Here too, there are threats. When I worked in the United States, I | :25:16. | :25:19. | |
received regular hate mail from those who objected to stem cell | :25:19. | :25:24. | |
research based on their religious beliefs. There are those who | :25:24. | :25:27. | |
challenge good science with minority opinions based on weak | :25:27. | :25:32. | |
science. As was the case with campaigners who objected to the | :25:32. | :25:36. | |
triple MMR vaccine. As a consequence reduction in | :25:36. | :25:40. | |
vaccination led to children's lives being put in danger. I have no | :25:40. | :25:45. | |
doubt that science will continue to have a major impact on all such | :25:45. | :25:51. | |
global issues over the coming decades. But now I want to turn to | :25:51. | :25:56. | |
the issue preoccupying many of us today, the economy. Science is key | :25:56. | :26:02. | |
to creating jobs and putting money in our pockets. The Industrial | :26:02. | :26:06. | |
Revolution brought scientists, engineers, tech noljists and | :26:06. | :26:09. | |
entrepreneurs together to apply science to industry and the economy. | :26:09. | :26:14. | |
The result was the steam engine, providing power, chemistry and | :26:14. | :26:19. | |
geology improving ceramics and the use of natural resources, mechanics | :26:19. | :26:22. | |
and engineering constructing machines for transport and | :26:22. | :26:27. | |
manufacture. This era is symbolised by the Lunar Society, a group | :26:27. | :26:33. | |
including James Watt, Darwin and Josiah Wedgwood who discussed | :26:33. | :26:38. | |
science and how science leads to new technologies and inventions | :26:38. | :26:42. | |
supporting the economy. They met in the Midlands once a month under the | :26:42. | :26:46. | |
full moon, to illuminate them during their ride home after dinner. | :26:46. | :26:55. | |
And perhaps after some wine too! Where would our economy be without | :26:55. | :27:00. | |
electricity and electromagnetism, electronics, synthetic chemistry, | :27:00. | :27:04. | |
ato theic physics, molecular biology. Some say Michael Faraday | :27:04. | :27:07. | |
answered the Prime Minister of his day when asked what good his | :27:07. | :27:11. | |
inventions of the electric transformer, generator and metor | :27:11. | :27:18. | |
might be by saying, "Why Prime Minister, someday, you can tax it." | :27:18. | :27:22. | |
Although almost certainly never said by Faraday, this anecdote | :27:22. | :27:26. | |
captures the view of some politicians and business leaders | :27:26. | :27:31. | |
who failed to grasp how science can enhance industrial tapabilities and | :27:31. | :27:36. | |
create wealth. -- capabilities and create wealth. Faraday did end up | :27:36. | :27:42. | |
on the back of the 20-pound note and entrepreneur Borlaug and Watt, | :27:42. | :27:51. | |
act tects of the steam engine appear on the 50-pound note. How | :27:51. | :27:56. | |
can we make sure that science thrives in the UK and continues to | :27:56. | :28:00. | |
bring benefits to our economy? I strongly argue that the first | :28:00. | :28:05. | |
requirement is to have a high quality science base. We are very | :28:05. | :28:10. | |
good at science here and have been for centuries. Britain played a | :28:10. | :28:14. | |
major role in founding modern science and its applications for | :28:14. | :28:17. | |
the public good, through the efforts of the royal society, | :28:17. | :28:21. | |
beginning in the 17th century and the Industrial Revolution in the | :28:21. | :28:28. | |
18th and 19th centuries. Today, the UK is second only to the USA in | :28:28. | :28:31. | |
contributions to the world's science and it's probably first in | :28:31. | :28:36. | |
termed of cost efficiency. This is an amazing achievement for our | :28:36. | :28:40. | |
country. There is also an increasing respect for technology | :28:40. | :28:46. | |
and engineering in the UK, as seen with the recent founding of the �1 | :28:46. | :28:49. | |
million Queen Elizabeth Prize for Engineering, sponsored by the | :28:49. | :28:52. | |
Government and the Royal Academy of engineering. | :28:52. | :28:56. | |
We do not need to create world class science in our country, we | :28:56. | :29:02. | |
already have it. Our task is to maintain, Cherish | :29:02. | :29:05. | |
and encourage our scientific endeavour and to promote its use | :29:05. | :29:13. | |
This is an issue that can no longer be ignored. Science is one of | :29:13. | :29:16. | |
Britain's greaters resources N the future, we will not be able to | :29:16. | :29:22. | |
compete on the world stage with low labour costs or by exploiting vast | :29:23. | :29:26. | |
reserves of mineral resources. We will have to compete with our | :29:26. | :29:30. | |
brains and with our science. Many features important for good science | :29:30. | :29:36. | |
are well embedded in the UK. We have a tradition of respect for | :29:36. | :29:40. | |
empiricism, emphasising reliable observation and experiment. Most | :29:40. | :29:44. | |
importantly, science in the UK is carried out in a culture of | :29:44. | :29:50. | |
openness and freedom. This should never be underestimated. The | :29:50. | :29:54. | |
scientific endeavour is at its most successful when there is freedom of | :29:54. | :29:59. | |
thought. Scientists need to be able to freely express doubts, to be | :30:00. | :30:03. | |
sceptical about established orthodox Si, and must not be too | :30:03. | :30:09. | |
strongly directed from the top, which stifles creativity. These | :30:09. | :30:12. | |
features are characteristic of British science, but this is not | :30:12. | :30:16. | |
the case throughout the world, even amongst some countries heavily | :30:17. | :30:20. | |
investing in science. In more closed societies, it may be | :30:20. | :30:24. | |
possible to pursue a directed programme when the underpinning | :30:24. | :30:28. | |
science is already clear, like building a nuclear weapon for | :30:28. | :30:33. | |
example, but making scientific discoveries and using science in | :30:33. | :30:38. | |
innovative ways is very difficult if the society is not free. During | :30:38. | :30:41. | |
the Cold War, Russia was able to build a nuclear bomb and send the | :30:42. | :30:46. | |
first man into space, two achievements base ds on previously | :30:46. | :30:51. | |
known physics. But work on genetics and crop improvement were | :30:51. | :30:56. | |
completely destroyed because for ideological reasons, Stalin backed | :30:56. | :31:01. | |
the charlatan Lysenko who rejected Mendelian genetics, widely accepted | :31:01. | :31:04. | |
everywhere else in the world. Similarly, in Nazi Germany, Hitler | :31:04. | :31:08. | |
rejected the work of Einstein because it was "Jewish Physics". In | :31:08. | :31:14. | |
the UK, we have the freedom to do science and we need to keep it that | :31:14. | :31:20. | |
way. We have to keep our spirit of adventure, to take risks and be | :31:20. | :31:24. | |
prepared sometimes to fail, as research at the cutting-edge is not | :31:24. | :31:29. | |
always successful. This is a lesson that UK industry might learn from | :31:29. | :31:33. | |
scientists. When I ran Rockefeller University in New York, I saw how | :31:33. | :31:36. | |
American entrepreneurs, were prepared to be bold to take risks | :31:36. | :31:43. | |
to bring science to the marketplace. We need more of that here in the UK. | :31:43. | :31:48. | |
For science to flourish, a broad portfolio of research investment is | :31:48. | :31:53. | |
required. There is a continuum of research, ranging from discovery | :31:53. | :31:57. | |
science, through research aimed at translating knowledge for | :31:57. | :32:01. | |
application, on to subsequent innovation ultimately leading to | :32:01. | :32:04. | |
the development of new technologies. The temptation to invest too | :32:04. | :32:09. | |
heavily in a particular part of this spectrum should be resisted. | :32:09. | :32:13. | |
Sometimes it is argued that we should concentrate only on | :32:13. | :32:18. | |
translation and innovation and not discovery, but that is a mistake. | :32:18. | :32:22. | |
As Sir George Porter, Nobel Laureate and a previous President | :32:23. | :32:26. | |
of the Royal Society, said: "To feed applied science by starving | :32:26. | :32:30. | |
basic science is like economising on the foundations of a building so | :32:31. | :32:36. | |
it may be built higher. It is only a matter of time before the whole | :32:36. | :32:43. | |
edifice crumbles." Research needs a longer timescale than is usual with | :32:43. | :32:46. | |
the more short-term priorities of private business, or for that | :32:46. | :32:51. | |
matter of politicians elected on a five-year cycle. This causes | :32:51. | :32:55. | |
problem with longer term projects such as translating scientific | :32:55. | :32:59. | |
advances into useful applications. We have a real opportunity in the | :32:59. | :33:05. | |
UK of improving the translation of biomedical science into better | :33:05. | :33:08. | |
treatments through an innovative partnership between researchers, | :33:08. | :33:13. | |
the NHS and industry, promoted by the Academy of Medical Sciences. | :33:13. | :33:19. | |
The UK has a great advantage with a very strong life sciences research | :33:19. | :33:27. | |
base, a unified Health Service, and an active pharmaceutical industry. | :33:27. | :33:31. | |
If all three work together we can carry out research which will not | :33:31. | :33:34. | |
only bring better Health Services but also help our economy. Because | :33:34. | :33:38. | |
the NHS belongs to people, it is my view that NHS patient also be open | :33:39. | :33:42. | |
to participating in research which will bring better Health Services | :33:42. | :33:47. | |
to the nation and also help our economy. This certainly applies to | :33:47. | :33:52. | |
me. The NHS helped me and I feel responsibility to assist in | :33:52. | :33:57. | |
clinical trials, allowing what could be learned from me to improve | :33:57. | :34:04. | |
treatment of future generations. It is time to turn the NHS into a | :34:04. | :34:09. | |
healthcare producer as well as a healthcare provider. Bridging the | :34:09. | :34:17. | |
often short-term pressures from commerce and politicians with the | :34:17. | :34:22. | |
longer time required to develop dois-of-discovery research to | :34:22. | :34:26. | |
effective applications is crucial. Greater collaboration between | :34:26. | :34:29. | |
publicly-funded research and private companies can help move | :34:29. | :34:33. | |
from science to application. Great scientific research requires talent. | :34:33. | :34:37. | |
The most accomplished scientists in the world need to be trained here | :34:37. | :34:41. | |
and attracted here. The UK is known to be excellent in research and | :34:41. | :34:45. | |
scientists of the highest quality from around the world want to come | :34:45. | :34:49. | |
and work here, which can only be to the country's good. The necessity | :34:49. | :34:53. | |
to attract highly-trained scientists from abroad has to be | :34:53. | :34:59. | |
reflected in the UK's immigration policy. The Government needs to | :34:59. | :35:03. | |
show leadership by publicly emphasising that scientists are as | :35:03. | :35:08. | |
welcome asent ests, ministers of religion and sports stars to come | :35:08. | :35:11. | |
and work here. The Immigration Minister has argued that he wants | :35:11. | :35:15. | |
to encourage the brightest and best migrants to come and work here. But | :35:15. | :35:19. | |
this must not be merely rhetoric. He has to make sure that the best | :35:19. | :35:22. | |
scientists from around the world know that they are welcome in the | :35:22. | :35:30. | |
UK. Science education also needs attention. People need an education | :35:30. | :35:34. | |
that allows them to fully participate in a democracy that | :35:34. | :35:38. | |
will increasingly require engagement with scientific matters. | :35:38. | :35:42. | |
Teaching should be of a quality such that those pupils with the | :35:42. | :35:47. | |
talent and inclination to become scientists are inspired to do so. | :35:47. | :35:50. | |
This will be difficult if we continue as now, with nearly all | :35:50. | :35:54. | |
primary school teachers, over a quarter of chemistry teachers and | :35:54. | :35:58. | |
nearly a third of physics teachers, having no specialist qualifications | :35:58. | :36:04. | |
in science. There should be greater attention on practical science in | :36:04. | :36:07. | |
schools including natural history, reinforcing the fact that science | :36:07. | :36:12. | |
is built on observation and experiment. Pupils must be inspired | :36:12. | :36:18. | |
by the wonder of science, and need to understand why science generates | :36:18. | :36:22. | |
reliable knowledge. At the very least, everyone leaving school | :36:22. | :36:28. | |
should know the difference between astronomy and astrology. LAUGHTER I | :36:28. | :36:34. | |
was inspired at school by my biology teacher, Keith Neal, his | :36:34. | :36:38. | |
focus on practical science and on communicating the wonder of science | :36:38. | :36:43. | |
was critical to me becoming a scientist. We need more Keith Neals | :36:43. | :36:50. | |
in our schools. Most important for the UK is a culture shift to fully | :36:50. | :36:54. | |
recognise what science can contribute. We should reawaken the | :36:54. | :36:58. | |
spirit of the Enlightenment, a respect for science and rationality, | :36:58. | :37:03. | |
a free-sharing of ideas and thinking with people from all walks | :37:03. | :37:07. | |
of life, revive the energy of the Industrial Revolution, and have the | :37:07. | :37:12. | |
courage to take risks and be true entrepreneurs. We can learn from | :37:12. | :37:16. | |
the Lunar Society where scientists, intellectuals and entrepreneurs met | :37:16. | :37:21. | |
together. But the world is more complex now. We have become more | :37:21. | :37:26. | |
focused on specialist areas cut off from each other. Scientists are | :37:26. | :37:31. | |
insufficiently ex-polzed to other scientific disciplines. There are | :37:31. | :37:34. | |
barriers between scientists and technologists and engineering | :37:34. | :37:37. | |
blocking the exchanges needed for innovation. There are further | :37:37. | :37:40. | |
blocks between these communities and those who lead the public | :37:40. | :37:45. | |
services and industry who need the applications of science. It is | :37:45. | :37:49. | |
essential to breakdown these barriers, through increasing the | :37:49. | :37:54. | |
permeability of both ideas and people between different sectors. | :37:54. | :37:59. | |
With permeability will come more innovative ideas and greater mutual | :37:59. | :38:04. | |
respect, leading to better progress in translating science into useful | :38:04. | :38:09. | |
applications. I want to put these ideas into practice at the new | :38:10. | :38:13. | |
Francis Crick Institute being built in London next to St Pancras | :38:13. | :38:19. | |
Station. When it opens in 2015, it will house 1,500 scientists in what | :38:19. | :38:23. | |
may well be the biggest biomedical laboratory building in the world. | :38:23. | :38:27. | |
It will not just be a place for scientific experts, but also a | :38:27. | :38:33. | |
place for experimenting in the way science is done. As Director of the | :38:33. | :38:37. | |
Institute, I want to create a cultural and economic hot house of | :38:37. | :38:42. | |
scientific ideas and applications, to make exciting discoveries | :38:42. | :38:47. | |
improving our health and driving our economy. I do not want | :38:47. | :38:50. | |
scientists to stay in their labs. I want them to mix with the best | :38:50. | :38:54. | |
minds from industry, the city, the public services, the media, to | :38:54. | :39:00. | |
spark off new ideas to help science benefit us all. It will be a place | :39:00. | :39:05. | |
without departments or restricting hierarchies with scientists free to | :39:05. | :39:10. | |
pursue their own creative ideas in a highly interactive and open | :39:10. | :39:15. | |
building. If it sounds a bit like anarchy, that is because it will be | :39:15. | :39:20. | |
a bit like anarchy. It is often in mixed up and chaotic circumstances | :39:20. | :39:27. | |
that the most creative work is done. Remember Harry Lime in The Third | :39:27. | :39:33. | |
Man who said: "In Italy, for 30 years under the Borgias, they had | :39:33. | :39:39. | |
warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed, but they produced | :39:39. | :39:41. | |
Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, | :39:41. | :39:46. | |
they had brotherly love, they had 500 years of democracy and peace, | :39:46. | :39:52. | |
and what did they produce? The cuckoo clock." The Francis Crick | :39:52. | :39:56. | |
Institute is a thrilling opportunity to create the world's | :39:56. | :39:59. | |
leading biomedical research facility right here in the UK, | :39:59. | :40:04. | |
attracting the best minds from all over the world, and could also be a | :40:04. | :40:10. | |
model for getting our economy to work better. Good science needs | :40:10. | :40:13. | |
good long-term support and the UK must look at the scale and the | :40:13. | :40:18. | |
scope of the funding it provides for science, both from public and | :40:18. | :40:21. | |
private sources. The Government has protected science in the recent | :40:21. | :40:26. | |
cuts which is very welcome, but even so in real terms, support for | :40:26. | :40:31. | |
science has been reduced. The Government needs greater courage to | :40:31. | :40:35. | |
properly support its stated aspiration of harnessing science | :40:36. | :40:41. | |
and engineering to rebalance the economy towards innovation-based | :40:41. | :40:46. | |
sustainable growth. The UK spends 1.8% of GDP on research and | :40:47. | :40:54. | |
development. The Americans 2.9%. The South Koreans 3.7%. And we are | :40:54. | :40:59. | |
dropping down international league tables for the production of | :40:59. | :41:07. | |
patents. And even greater problems is spend by industry in the UK on | :41:07. | :41:11. | |
research and development, at present only 0.8% of GDP. This low | :41:11. | :41:16. | |
level of investment in science from industry means it lacks the | :41:16. | :41:20. | |
research capacity to reach out and exploit the scientific knowledge | :41:20. | :41:25. | |
being produced. There needs to be a shift in the boardroom to | :41:25. | :41:28. | |
understand and appreciate what science can bring, with more focus | :41:28. | :41:32. | |
on the longer term. Typical of the problem is what happened to the | :41:32. | :41:36. | |
utilities. In the years following privatisation, there was a collapse | :41:36. | :41:39. | |
in spend on research and development, good for short-term | :41:39. | :41:45. | |
profits maybe, but not for long- term sustainability or long-term | :41:45. | :41:49. | |
profits. I am passionate about science because it has shaped the | :41:49. | :41:54. | |
world and made it a better place, and I want to see science placed | :41:54. | :41:59. | |
more centre stage in our culture and economy. Our present economic | :41:59. | :42:04. | |
troubles have promoted a debate about the future of our economy, | :42:04. | :42:10. | |
and that future must include a major role for science. We need a | :42:10. | :42:15. | |
new Enlightenment, an Enlightenment for the 21st Century and Britain is | :42:15. | :42:25. | |
the place to do it with its h -- its history of freedom, rationality | :42:25. | :42:32. | |
and scientific achievement. We need more science in Government, the | :42:32. | :42:35. | |
boardroom and public services, we need more funding for science, we | :42:35. | :42:38. | |
need greater engagement with the public and a society comfortable | :42:38. | :42:41. | |
with science, we need to convey the wonder of science and what it | :42:41. | :42:44. | |
contributes to our civilisation. If we want science to deliver all of | :42:45. | :42:49. | |
this we must up our game, with the vision to think big, bigger than | :42:49. | :42:53. | |
our competitors and to imagine where we want to be in the future. | :42:53. | :42:58. | |
Science can help us get there, just as it did in the past. If we get it | :42:58. | :43:04. | |
right, our whole society will benefit. Science is, and always has | :43:04. | :43:08. | |
been, one of Britain's greatest assets. I am optimistic that the | :43:09. | :43:13. | |
time has come for a new deal between science and society to | :43:13. | :43:17. | |
achieve all of these things. If we are to hold our own on the world | :43:17. | :43:22. |