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Thank you very much. Welcome to a unique event on BBC One. A

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provocative argument put by a forceful speaker, with no

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interviewer to interrupt, and an audience that, for once, listens

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but doesn't speak. Tonight's lecture is given by a Nobel Prize

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winner, a scientist at the top of his tree, the President of the

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Royal Society, the world's oldest scientific academy, Sir Paul Nurse.

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Now, Sir Paul's mission is to get all of us - politicians, teachers,

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business people, the media - to accept the vital importance of

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science in our lives and to do much, much more to promote it. Paul Nurse

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is no science geek and his career ought to encourage all slow-

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starters. He wasn't good at exams. He struggled to get a place at

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university. Oh, and he's also a pilot, a mountain walker and he

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rides a motorbike, a flashy one, bought with the money from his

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Nobel Prize. LAUGHTER His next big project is the Francis Crick

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Institute which will open in 2015. It is planned to be one of the

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biggest biomedical laboratories in the world, with 1,500 scientists at

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work here in London. As its director, he intends to make it, in

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his own words, a hot house of scientific ideas. His Nobel Prize

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for Medicine was awarded for work on the division of cells which has

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many implications, including for the treatment of cancer, the

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illness that killed my father when he was only 52. And his death led

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to the creation of the charity Dimbleby Cancer Care. Richard

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Dimbleby was the BBC's first news reporter, the first war

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correspondent and a trailblazer in the development of television in

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the '50s and the '60s. 40 years ago this annual lecture was set up by

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the BBC to commemorate him. It's established a formidable reputation

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and I have no doubt that tonight's lecture will further enhance it.

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Ladies and gentlemen, would you Thank you, David. The Dimbleby

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family, ladies and gentlemen, this evening I am going to talk about my

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passion for science. I have very personal reasons for doing so.

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Recently, science saved my life. Let me explain. Just before

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Christmas, I was planning a trip to the Antarctic Research station at

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Scott Base. I was to be there at the 100th anniversary of Captain

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Scott's expedition to the South Pole. I have wanted to visit the

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Antarctic for years and before going, I went for a routine medical

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check-up. But the medical turned out to be far from routine. I was

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diagnosed with a serious heart disease, and in January I had a

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quadruple heart bypass. The South Pole had to wait, but thanks to the

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skill of my NHS doctors, I am delighted to say some of them are

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in the audience tonight, and to the science which underpinned my

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treatment, I am still alive and I am able to be here tonight. I'm

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also passionate about science because I have been a researcher

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for over 40 years and want to share with you the wonder of science,

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what it is like to be a scientist, how it enhances our culture, our

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civilisation. Science can improve our health and quality of life,

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help solve the world's biggest problems, and support

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sustainability. It influences nearly everything we do, from

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heating our homes, turning on the radio, using our phone, browsing

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the internet, the food we eat, the pill we take for our headache. And

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science is absolutely essential to drive our economy. Science matters

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to us all. Science not only enriches our minds, it can also

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provide a trusted guide to tackle global problems that face us right

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now, such as feeding the world, ensuring we have sufficient energy,

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keeping an yoo ageing population healthy. -- an ageing population

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healthy. I also believe that science can play an even greater

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role in improving our economy, in protecting our jobs and incomes. I

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want to remind you of a time when science helped make Britain an

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economic powerhouse during the Enlightenment and Industrial

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Revolution, and to explore how we can make science work to better

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drive our economy today. But first, my own passion for science. It

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began when I was a nine-year-old boy. It was 1958, the beginning of

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the space-age. I was looking up at the London night sky and saw

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amongst the stars one that was rapidly moving and was very bright.

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This was Sputnik 2, the second man- made satellite to orbit the Earth,

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and inside was a dog called Laika. I must admit I felt sorry for Laika

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because I had a dog of my own. Watching this artificial star

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moving in the night sky made me think about the other stars, so I

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went to my local public library and discovered that stars were suns,

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that there were galaxies up there, too, and some of the stars were

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planets. I pes pered my parents for a small telescope and I found I

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could see the crescent of Venus, the moons of Jupiter, the rings of

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Saturn, the craters of the moon. Go out early tomorrow evening and you

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will see Venus and Jupiter to the west, and Saturn to the south. Use

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a telescope if you can. Seeing such marvels for yourself is much more

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immediate and personal than looking at images on the television. The

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natural world is fascinating, and is even more so if you are prepared

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to observe, to experiment, to think, and to try and understand. That is

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what scientists do, and there is a little bit of the scientist in all

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of us, especially when we are children. I am passionate about

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doing science and completely agree with Sir Humphry Davy, the 19th

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Century chemist and inventor of the miners' safety lamp when he said,

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"To me, there has never been a higher source of honour or

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distinction than that connected with the advances in science." That

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is why I still run a lab - it's what keeps me sane. I'm not sure my

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lab colleagues, some of whom are here tonight, would agree on the

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last point. So what is special about science that means we should

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trust it? What makes it so good at generating reliable knowledge about

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the natural world? Scientists work in a variety of ways that are not

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unique to science. For example, they need a historian's eye for

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detail, the mathematician's feel for logic, the philosopher's desire

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to keep asking questions - and some would say the patience of a saint.

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When the various ways scientists work are combined together, they

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produce a process that is a very powerful way of creating knowledge.

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The bedrock from which all science flows is reproducible observation

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and experiment. This means that ultimately what is observed - the

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data - trumps all, even the most beautiful idea. Scientists need to

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take account of all observations and experiments and not just

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cherry-pick data that happen to support their own ideas and

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theories. Scientific issues are settled by the overall strength of

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evidence. Often a particular idea drives what observations a

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scientist makes, but sometimes scientists make observations

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without a precise idea or hypothesis in mind. More

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whimsically, I call this "following where nature leads you". An example

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of this from my own research, back in the 1970s, was when I was

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investigating what controls the division of cells, a problem of

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great importance for the growth and reproduction of all life, and for

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understanding cancer. I was searching for genes needed for cell

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division, by looking for yeast mutants which could not divide.

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Such mutant cells get bigger and bigger and can be spotted under the

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microscope. I have been searching for these large-sized cells for

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months when I spotted something quite different, a clump of cells

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doing the opposite, dividing at a small size. I was not looking for

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such cells, it was just that nature presented them to me. But as soon

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as I saw them, I realised they meant something important. I

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dragged everyone in the lab, and a few passers-by as well to take a

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look. I was very excited and I am sure some people thought I had gone

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a little mad. This clump of cells had a mutated gene which made the

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cells divide faster than normal, so they did not have enough time to

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grow to their proper size. discovered these smalls in

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Edinburgh, so I called the new gene the "wee" gene. It works like the

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accelerator in a car. An accelerator determines how fast a

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car goes and a "wee" gene determine how fast a cell divides. Eventually,

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this led to the discovery that "wee" genes also control cell

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division in all of us, establishing that there is a universal mechanism

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controlling cell division in nearly all life. It formed the basis for

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my Nobel Prize and emphasises the role serendipity can play in

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scientific discovery. But observations alone are not enough.

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It is the ability to prove that something is not true which is at

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the centre of science. This distinguishes it from beliefs based

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on religion and ideology which place much more emphasis on faith,

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tradition, and opinion. As a scientist, I have come up with

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ideas that can be tested. Then I think of experiments to test the

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idea further. If the result of the experiment does not support the

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idea, then I reject it, or modify it, and test it again. A great

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recent example of the importance of testing is the experiment at CERN

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which suggested that sub-atomic particles - neutrinos - were

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travelling faster than the speed of light. If this turned out to be

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true, then Einstein's theory of special relatively would need to be

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revised. As you can imagine, the scientific community was amazed and

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sceptical but they did not shout the CERN scientists down. Instead,

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they encouraged them to do more experiments to further test their

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hypothesis. I have been relying on my physicist daughter, Emily, who

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works at CERN and University College London, to keep me updated.

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The latest is, there might be either a loose connector or a

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faulty clock, so Einstein can probably relax, at least for the

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moment. Implicit in this approach is that scientific knowledge

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evolves. Early on in a scientific study, knowledge is often tentative

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and it is only after repeated testing that it becomes

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increasingly secure. It is this process that makes science reliable,

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but it takes time. This can lead to problems when scientists are called

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upon to give advice on issues when the science is not yet complete. We

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see this every day in the newspapers - whether breast

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implants are safe or what foods are good or bad. The public want clear

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and simple answers but sometimes that is not possible. People need

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to understand this and we should start in our schools. Science is

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taught based on the great ideas that have successfully undergone

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much testing, such as those of Newton, Darwin and Einstein, and so

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we tend to think all science is equally secure, as if written in

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stone. But that may not be the case, particularly at an early stage in

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research when knowledge is more tentative. This view of science

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should receive greater emphasis at school, because the public would be

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better able to appreciate how It's impossible to achieve complete

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certainty on many complex scientific problems, yet sometimes

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we still feed to take action. The sensible course is to turn to the

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expert science tists for their consensus view. When doctors found

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I had blockages in the arteries round my heart, I asked for their

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expert view as to what I should do. They recommended a bypass. I took

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their consensus advice and here I am. That is how science works. It

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provides a strong corrective force in the development of scientific

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knowledge. Look at the debate about climate change. The majority of

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expert climate scientists have reached the consensus view that

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human activity has resulted in global warming. Though there is

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debate about how much the temperature will rise in the future.

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Others argue that warming is not taking place at all or that it will

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happen in a catastrophic way. But they have failed to persuade the

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majority of climate experts, who have judged the scientific

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arguments made to support the more extreme views as being too weak to

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be convincing. There are personal qualities which are important for

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science, including a sceptical attitude, honesty and transparency,

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courtesy in scientific dispute, humility and self-doubt help as

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well, as the 17th century philosopher of science Francis

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Bacon said "If a man will begin with certainties he will end in

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doubt. If he will be content to begin with doubts, he will end in

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certainties." Put all this together and you have a process which can

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offer extraordinary insights into the natural world. These range from

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the profound to the quirky. I really liked an amusing example

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which reconstructed the song of a cricket that lived 165 million

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years ago. But the work of science can also require courage, as it

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sometimes strikes at the heart of accepted thinking, challenging

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established opinion is part of science and can bring about

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revolutionary changes, which can be very unsettling. Displacing the

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earth from the centre of the universe first to an orbit round

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the sun and then to the arm of a galaxy, within an infittity of

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galaxies has had a profound effect on the position of human kind.

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Evolution had the same dramatic impact, moving us from being

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specially created and separate from the rest of life to being related

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to every living organism on the planet. Charles Darwin recognised

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this in his descent of man, man with all his qualities, with

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sympathy, benevolence, with his godlike intellect, with all these

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exalted powers, man still bears in his bodily frame the indelible

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stamp of his lowly origin. These ideas about the earth and human

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kind were once unthinkable and her etical, but are now fully accepted

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by all those who accept knowledge an the power of reason. Science

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continues to be revolutionary and we always have to be ready for what

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it might reveal. Improved knowledge of human embryology and increased

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abltd to keep the unborn child alive have major implications for

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when life begins and ends also for intervention such as abortion.

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Studies of the brain will reveal correlations between neural

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activity and what we are thinking, memories and our emotional states.

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Increasingly we are likely to be able to use chemicals to alter

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brain function and modify behaviours. Advances will have

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consequences for our views on free will, on justice and diversity. How

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much choice do we really have when we make decisions? Is punishment

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for certain criminal behaviours right, if they are strongly

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influenced by an individual's genes? Will working neuroscience

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influence how we educate our children? These are issues of

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crucial significance which can only be properly addressed if we enjoy a

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healthy relationship between science and society. Scientists

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need to identify issues early and to encourage open debate about the

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implications and consequences of scientific and technological

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advances. Such debates will sometimes be difficult, but they

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must take place. This is essential if we are to have a society that is

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comfortable with science and that can reap the benefits it can bring.

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And science can bring us great practical, everyday benefits. It

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has always been a useful art, generating knowledge that when

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properly used, leads to application through technologies and

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engineering for the public good. Again, at the birth of modern

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science, Francis Bacon argued that scientific knowledge gives us a

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power to relieve man's estate. Robert Hooke of the royal society

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emphasised how scientific discoverries on motion, light,

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gravity, magnetism an the heavens would improve shipping, watches,

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optics and engines for trade and carriage. Today, the world faces

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major problems. Some uppermost in my mind are food security, climate

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change, global health and making economy sustainable, all of which

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need science. It is critical for our democracy to have mature

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discussions about these issues, but these debates are sometimes

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threatened by a misinform fd sense of balance and inappropriate

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headlines in the media which gives credence to views not supported by

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the science. And also by those who distort the science with ideology,

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politics and religion. From the very beginning of science, there

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have always been such threats. When Galileo argued that the earth

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orbited the sun, the inquisition did not argue back with science,

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they simply showed him the instruments of torture. It is very

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important that we keep such influences separate from scientific

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debate. The time for politics is after the science not before. Let's

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lock at food security. Ensuring that the world is properly fed,

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this is already greatly helped by science. The Green Revolution

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increased agricultural production in the 1960s through high yielding

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cereals, better irrigation an the use of fertilisers and pesticides,

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developments led by the scientist Norman Borlaug. The Green

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Revolution is often credited with saving the lives of over a billion

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people worldwide from starvation. However, some environmentalists did

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not support these initiatives, leaving Borlaug to respond. Some of

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the environmental lobbyists of the Western nations are the salt of the

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earth. But many of them are elitist. They'd never experienced the

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physical sensation of hunger. They do their lobbying from comfortable

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office suites in Washington or Brussels. If they lived just one

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month amid the misery of the developing world, as I have for 50

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years, they'd be crying out for tractors and fertiliser and

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irrigation canals and the outrage that fashionable elitists back home

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were trying to deny them these things. Science is once again

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required to improve yields, to make agriculture more sustainable and to

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extend the range of crops that can thrive in more marginal lands. This

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can be helped through improving the growth of crops, assisting plant

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breeding and by the genetic modification of plants, which will

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generate crops of high productivity and reduce pesticide use, bet

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prortecting the environment and biodiversity. It is time to re-open

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the debate about GM crops in the UK, but this time, based on scientific

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facts and analysis. We need to consider what the science has to

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say about risks and benefits, uncoloured by commercial interests

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and ideological opinion. It is not acceptable if we deny the world's

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poorest access to way that's could help their food security, if that

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denial is based on fashion and ill- informed opinion rather than good

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science. Another great challenge for the world is climate change.

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Discussions in this area impinge on politics, commercial interests and

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strongly-held opinions. And these influences have distorted the

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scientific debate. Solutions needed to counter global warming are

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likely to require more concerted world action, regulating the

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activities of the individual of industry and of the nation state

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and such restrictions are an a anathema to some are particular

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political and economic view points. Equally those of an opposite

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viewpoint may exaggerate the extent of future global warming because of

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their afints towards greater regulation and world Government

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this leads some polemicists to confuse the debate by mixing the

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science with the politics. The answer here is to focus on

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transparency and good science. There is no room for pre-conceived

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ideas. First we need the science, then the politics. Science will be

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required to develop new ways of producing energy that are

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environmentally less damaging, renewables like wind, wave, tidal

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and solar energy should be evaluated, putting vested interests

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aside to determine what is effective. The same applies to

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nuclear power. Science is needed to properly assess the risks and

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benefits. It is not sensible to respond in a need-jerk way without

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evaluation of data concerning real environmental damage and health

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risks, as against perceived damage and risks. Improved scientific

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knowledge has brought remarkable improvements also in life

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expectancy. 100 years ago, average life expectancy in the UK was about

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50 years. Now it is around 80 years. Science will continue to be needed

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to improve the world's health in the future. Human genetics will

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identify genes which pre-dispose us to different diseases allowing us

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to understand how genes influence disease and how they interact with

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lifestyle and diet, promoting new ways to treat and prevent illness.

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There is great promise for stem cells, which can generate a range

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of tissues in the body, potentially repairing muscle and nerve tissue,

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damage countering the effects of degenerative disease and old age.

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Here too, there are threats. When I worked in the United States, I

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received regular hate mail from those who objected to stem cell

:25:19.:25:24.

research based on their religious beliefs. There are those who

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challenge good science with minority opinions based on weak

:25:27.:25:32.

science. As was the case with campaigners who objected to the

:25:32.:25:36.

triple MMR vaccine. As a consequence reduction in

:25:36.:25:40.

vaccination led to children's lives being put in danger. I have no

:25:40.:25:45.

doubt that science will continue to have a major impact on all such

:25:45.:25:51.

global issues over the coming decades. But now I want to turn to

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the issue preoccupying many of us today, the economy. Science is key

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to creating jobs and putting money in our pockets. The Industrial

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Revolution brought scientists, engineers, tech noljists and

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entrepreneurs together to apply science to industry and the economy.

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The result was the steam engine, providing power, chemistry and

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geology improving ceramics and the use of natural resources, mechanics

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and engineering constructing machines for transport and

:26:22.:26:27.

manufacture. This era is symbolised by the Lunar Society, a group

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including James Watt, Darwin and Josiah Wedgwood who discussed

:26:33.:26:38.

science and how science leads to new technologies and inventions

:26:38.:26:42.

supporting the economy. They met in the Midlands once a month under the

:26:42.:26:46.

full moon, to illuminate them during their ride home after dinner.

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And perhaps after some wine too! Where would our economy be without

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electricity and electromagnetism, electronics, synthetic chemistry,

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ato theic physics, molecular biology. Some say Michael Faraday

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answered the Prime Minister of his day when asked what good his

:27:07.:27:11.

inventions of the electric transformer, generator and metor

:27:11.:27:18.

might be by saying, "Why Prime Minister, someday, you can tax it."

:27:18.:27:22.

Although almost certainly never said by Faraday, this anecdote

:27:22.:27:26.

captures the view of some politicians and business leaders

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who failed to grasp how science can enhance industrial tapabilities and

:27:31.:27:36.

create wealth. -- capabilities and create wealth. Faraday did end up

:27:36.:27:42.

on the back of the 20-pound note and entrepreneur Borlaug and Watt,

:27:42.:27:51.

act tects of the steam engine appear on the 50-pound note. How

:27:51.:27:56.

can we make sure that science thrives in the UK and continues to

:27:56.:28:00.

bring benefits to our economy? I strongly argue that the first

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requirement is to have a high quality science base. We are very

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good at science here and have been for centuries. Britain played a

:28:10.:28:14.

major role in founding modern science and its applications for

:28:14.:28:17.

the public good, through the efforts of the royal society,

:28:17.:28:21.

beginning in the 17th century and the Industrial Revolution in the

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18th and 19th centuries. Today, the UK is second only to the USA in

:28:28.:28:31.

contributions to the world's science and it's probably first in

:28:31.:28:36.

termed of cost efficiency. This is an amazing achievement for our

:28:36.:28:40.

country. There is also an increasing respect for technology

:28:40.:28:46.

and engineering in the UK, as seen with the recent founding of the �1

:28:46.:28:49.

million Queen Elizabeth Prize for Engineering, sponsored by the

:28:49.:28:52.

Government and the Royal Academy of engineering.

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We do not need to create world class science in our country, we

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already have it. Our task is to maintain, Cherish

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and encourage our scientific endeavour and to promote its use

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This is an issue that can no longer be ignored. Science is one of

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Britain's greaters resources N the future, we will not be able to

:29:16.:29:22.

compete on the world stage with low labour costs or by exploiting vast

:29:23.:29:26.

reserves of mineral resources. We will have to compete with our

:29:26.:29:30.

brains and with our science. Many features important for good science

:29:30.:29:36.

are well embedded in the UK. We have a tradition of respect for

:29:36.:29:40.

empiricism, emphasising reliable observation and experiment. Most

:29:40.:29:44.

importantly, science in the UK is carried out in a culture of

:29:44.:29:50.

openness and freedom. This should never be underestimated. The

:29:50.:29:54.

scientific endeavour is at its most successful when there is freedom of

:29:54.:29:59.

thought. Scientists need to be able to freely express doubts, to be

:30:00.:30:03.

sceptical about established orthodox Si, and must not be too

:30:03.:30:09.

strongly directed from the top, which stifles creativity. These

:30:09.:30:12.

features are characteristic of British science, but this is not

:30:12.:30:16.

the case throughout the world, even amongst some countries heavily

:30:17.:30:20.

investing in science. In more closed societies, it may be

:30:20.:30:24.

possible to pursue a directed programme when the underpinning

:30:24.:30:28.

science is already clear, like building a nuclear weapon for

:30:28.:30:33.

example, but making scientific discoveries and using science in

:30:33.:30:38.

innovative ways is very difficult if the society is not free. During

:30:38.:30:41.

the Cold War, Russia was able to build a nuclear bomb and send the

:30:42.:30:46.

first man into space, two achievements base ds on previously

:30:46.:30:51.

known physics. But work on genetics and crop improvement were

:30:51.:30:56.

completely destroyed because for ideological reasons, Stalin backed

:30:56.:31:01.

the charlatan Lysenko who rejected Mendelian genetics, widely accepted

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everywhere else in the world. Similarly, in Nazi Germany, Hitler

:31:04.:31:08.

rejected the work of Einstein because it was "Jewish Physics". In

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the UK, we have the freedom to do science and we need to keep it that

:31:14.:31:20.

way. We have to keep our spirit of adventure, to take risks and be

:31:20.:31:24.

prepared sometimes to fail, as research at the cutting-edge is not

:31:24.:31:29.

always successful. This is a lesson that UK industry might learn from

:31:29.:31:33.

scientists. When I ran Rockefeller University in New York, I saw how

:31:33.:31:36.

American entrepreneurs, were prepared to be bold to take risks

:31:36.:31:43.

to bring science to the marketplace. We need more of that here in the UK.

:31:43.:31:48.

For science to flourish, a broad portfolio of research investment is

:31:48.:31:53.

required. There is a continuum of research, ranging from discovery

:31:53.:31:57.

science, through research aimed at translating knowledge for

:31:57.:32:01.

application, on to subsequent innovation ultimately leading to

:32:01.:32:04.

the development of new technologies. The temptation to invest too

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heavily in a particular part of this spectrum should be resisted.

:32:09.:32:13.

Sometimes it is argued that we should concentrate only on

:32:13.:32:18.

translation and innovation and not discovery, but that is a mistake.

:32:18.:32:22.

As Sir George Porter, Nobel Laureate and a previous President

:32:23.:32:26.

of the Royal Society, said: "To feed applied science by starving

:32:26.:32:30.

basic science is like economising on the foundations of a building so

:32:31.:32:36.

it may be built higher. It is only a matter of time before the whole

:32:36.:32:43.

edifice crumbles." Research needs a longer timescale than is usual with

:32:43.:32:46.

the more short-term priorities of private business, or for that

:32:46.:32:51.

matter of politicians elected on a five-year cycle. This causes

:32:51.:32:55.

problem with longer term projects such as translating scientific

:32:55.:32:59.

advances into useful applications. We have a real opportunity in the

:32:59.:33:05.

UK of improving the translation of biomedical science into better

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treatments through an innovative partnership between researchers,

:33:08.:33:13.

the NHS and industry, promoted by the Academy of Medical Sciences.

:33:13.:33:19.

The UK has a great advantage with a very strong life sciences research

:33:19.:33:27.

base, a unified Health Service, and an active pharmaceutical industry.

:33:27.:33:31.

If all three work together we can carry out research which will not

:33:31.:33:34.

only bring better Health Services but also help our economy. Because

:33:34.:33:38.

the NHS belongs to people, it is my view that NHS patient also be open

:33:39.:33:42.

to participating in research which will bring better Health Services

:33:42.:33:47.

to the nation and also help our economy. This certainly applies to

:33:47.:33:52.

me. The NHS helped me and I feel responsibility to assist in

:33:52.:33:57.

clinical trials, allowing what could be learned from me to improve

:33:57.:34:04.

treatment of future generations. It is time to turn the NHS into a

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healthcare producer as well as a healthcare provider. Bridging the

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often short-term pressures from commerce and politicians with the

:34:17.:34:22.

longer time required to develop dois-of-discovery research to

:34:22.:34:26.

effective applications is crucial. Greater collaboration between

:34:26.:34:29.

publicly-funded research and private companies can help move

:34:29.:34:33.

from science to application. Great scientific research requires talent.

:34:33.:34:37.

The most accomplished scientists in the world need to be trained here

:34:37.:34:41.

and attracted here. The UK is known to be excellent in research and

:34:41.:34:45.

scientists of the highest quality from around the world want to come

:34:45.:34:49.

and work here, which can only be to the country's good. The necessity

:34:49.:34:53.

to attract highly-trained scientists from abroad has to be

:34:53.:34:59.

reflected in the UK's immigration policy. The Government needs to

:34:59.:35:03.

show leadership by publicly emphasising that scientists are as

:35:03.:35:08.

welcome asent ests, ministers of religion and sports stars to come

:35:08.:35:11.

and work here. The Immigration Minister has argued that he wants

:35:11.:35:15.

to encourage the brightest and best migrants to come and work here. But

:35:15.:35:19.

this must not be merely rhetoric. He has to make sure that the best

:35:19.:35:22.

scientists from around the world know that they are welcome in the

:35:22.:35:30.

UK. Science education also needs attention. People need an education

:35:30.:35:34.

that allows them to fully participate in a democracy that

:35:34.:35:38.

will increasingly require engagement with scientific matters.

:35:38.:35:42.

Teaching should be of a quality such that those pupils with the

:35:42.:35:47.

talent and inclination to become scientists are inspired to do so.

:35:47.:35:50.

This will be difficult if we continue as now, with nearly all

:35:50.:35:54.

primary school teachers, over a quarter of chemistry teachers and

:35:54.:35:58.

nearly a third of physics teachers, having no specialist qualifications

:35:58.:36:04.

in science. There should be greater attention on practical science in

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schools including natural history, reinforcing the fact that science

:36:07.:36:12.

is built on observation and experiment. Pupils must be inspired

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by the wonder of science, and need to understand why science generates

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reliable knowledge. At the very least, everyone leaving school

:36:22.:36:28.

should know the difference between astronomy and astrology. LAUGHTER I

:36:28.:36:34.

was inspired at school by my biology teacher, Keith Neal, his

:36:34.:36:38.

focus on practical science and on communicating the wonder of science

:36:38.:36:43.

was critical to me becoming a scientist. We need more Keith Neals

:36:43.:36:50.

in our schools. Most important for the UK is a culture shift to fully

:36:50.:36:54.

recognise what science can contribute. We should reawaken the

:36:54.:36:58.

spirit of the Enlightenment, a respect for science and rationality,

:36:58.:37:03.

a free-sharing of ideas and thinking with people from all walks

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of life, revive the energy of the Industrial Revolution, and have the

:37:07.:37:12.

courage to take risks and be true entrepreneurs. We can learn from

:37:12.:37:16.

the Lunar Society where scientists, intellectuals and entrepreneurs met

:37:16.:37:21.

together. But the world is more complex now. We have become more

:37:21.:37:26.

focused on specialist areas cut off from each other. Scientists are

:37:26.:37:31.

insufficiently ex-polzed to other scientific disciplines. There are

:37:31.:37:34.

barriers between scientists and technologists and engineering

:37:34.:37:37.

blocking the exchanges needed for innovation. There are further

:37:37.:37:40.

blocks between these communities and those who lead the public

:37:40.:37:45.

services and industry who need the applications of science. It is

:37:45.:37:49.

essential to breakdown these barriers, through increasing the

:37:49.:37:54.

permeability of both ideas and people between different sectors.

:37:54.:37:59.

With permeability will come more innovative ideas and greater mutual

:37:59.:38:04.

respect, leading to better progress in translating science into useful

:38:04.:38:09.

applications. I want to put these ideas into practice at the new

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Francis Crick Institute being built in London next to St Pancras

:38:13.:38:19.

Station. When it opens in 2015, it will house 1,500 scientists in what

:38:19.:38:23.

may well be the biggest biomedical laboratory building in the world.

:38:23.:38:27.

It will not just be a place for scientific experts, but also a

:38:27.:38:33.

place for experimenting in the way science is done. As Director of the

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Institute, I want to create a cultural and economic hot house of

:38:37.:38:42.

scientific ideas and applications, to make exciting discoveries

:38:42.:38:47.

improving our health and driving our economy. I do not want

:38:47.:38:50.

scientists to stay in their labs. I want them to mix with the best

:38:50.:38:54.

minds from industry, the city, the public services, the media, to

:38:54.:39:00.

spark off new ideas to help science benefit us all. It will be a place

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without departments or restricting hierarchies with scientists free to

:39:05.:39:10.

pursue their own creative ideas in a highly interactive and open

:39:10.:39:15.

building. If it sounds a bit like anarchy, that is because it will be

:39:15.:39:20.

a bit like anarchy. It is often in mixed up and chaotic circumstances

:39:20.:39:27.

that the most creative work is done. Remember Harry Lime in The Third

:39:27.:39:33.

Man who said: "In Italy, for 30 years under the Borgias, they had

:39:33.:39:39.

warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed, but they produced

:39:39.:39:41.

Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland,

:39:41.:39:46.

they had brotherly love, they had 500 years of democracy and peace,

:39:46.:39:52.

and what did they produce? The cuckoo clock." The Francis Crick

:39:52.:39:56.

Institute is a thrilling opportunity to create the world's

:39:56.:39:59.

leading biomedical research facility right here in the UK,

:39:59.:40:04.

attracting the best minds from all over the world, and could also be a

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model for getting our economy to work better. Good science needs

:40:10.:40:13.

good long-term support and the UK must look at the scale and the

:40:13.:40:18.

scope of the funding it provides for science, both from public and

:40:18.:40:21.

private sources. The Government has protected science in the recent

:40:21.:40:26.

cuts which is very welcome, but even so in real terms, support for

:40:26.:40:31.

science has been reduced. The Government needs greater courage to

:40:31.:40:35.

properly support its stated aspiration of harnessing science

:40:36.:40:41.

and engineering to rebalance the economy towards innovation-based

:40:41.:40:46.

sustainable growth. The UK spends 1.8% of GDP on research and

:40:47.:40:54.

development. The Americans 2.9%. The South Koreans 3.7%. And we are

:40:54.:40:59.

dropping down international league tables for the production of

:40:59.:41:07.

patents. And even greater problems is spend by industry in the UK on

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research and development, at present only 0.8% of GDP. This low

:41:11.:41:16.

level of investment in science from industry means it lacks the

:41:16.:41:20.

research capacity to reach out and exploit the scientific knowledge

:41:20.:41:25.

being produced. There needs to be a shift in the boardroom to

:41:25.:41:28.

understand and appreciate what science can bring, with more focus

:41:28.:41:32.

on the longer term. Typical of the problem is what happened to the

:41:32.:41:36.

utilities. In the years following privatisation, there was a collapse

:41:36.:41:39.

in spend on research and development, good for short-term

:41:39.:41:45.

profits maybe, but not for long- term sustainability or long-term

:41:45.:41:49.

profits. I am passionate about science because it has shaped the

:41:49.:41:54.

world and made it a better place, and I want to see science placed

:41:54.:41:59.

more centre stage in our culture and economy. Our present economic

:41:59.:42:04.

troubles have promoted a debate about the future of our economy,

:42:04.:42:10.

and that future must include a major role for science. We need a

:42:10.:42:15.

new Enlightenment, an Enlightenment for the 21st Century and Britain is

:42:15.:42:25.

the place to do it with its h -- its history of freedom, rationality

:42:25.:42:32.

and scientific achievement. We need more science in Government, the

:42:32.:42:35.

boardroom and public services, we need more funding for science, we

:42:35.:42:38.

need greater engagement with the public and a society comfortable

:42:38.:42:41.

with science, we need to convey the wonder of science and what it

:42:41.:42:44.

contributes to our civilisation. If we want science to deliver all of

:42:45.:42:49.

this we must up our game, with the vision to think big, bigger than

:42:49.:42:53.

our competitors and to imagine where we want to be in the future.

:42:53.:42:58.

Science can help us get there, just as it did in the past. If we get it

:42:58.:43:04.

right, our whole society will benefit. Science is, and always has

:43:04.:43:08.

been, one of Britain's greatest assets. I am optimistic that the

:43:09.:43:13.

time has come for a new deal between science and society to

:43:13.:43:17.

achieve all of these things. If we are to hold our own on the world

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