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Had hair good morning from the centre of Belfast and welcome to

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our coverage hot the Twelfth. The spectators have been gathering

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along a strip for the past couple of powers and perhaps you'll get

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the chance to speak to some of them later. We are alive for the next

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hour and a quarter to mark what is the 322nd anniversary of the Battle

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of the Boyne. We will have lots more from the parade in Belfast in

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just a moment but let us hear over to Carrickfergus to join up with

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Ralph McLean. I am in Carrickfergus for one of the big flagship

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demonstrations and this is working William arrived in 1690 and in June

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of that year he made his way to the boy and so it is significant. The

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town is playing host to the east Antrim combine with something like

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60 bands from across the UK. The parade will be led by King William

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himself with a troop of pikemen in full costume. That will be with us

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at the castle in 45 minutes but for now, back to the City Hall in

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Belfast and David O'Reilly... The grounds of the City Hall open to

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the public for a range of family friendly activities with food

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stalls showcasing local produce, cookery demonstrations and street

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theatre from the Festival of Fools and the shops are open from noon. I

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will be here later on the show but now it's time to handover to our

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commentator this morning, Walter Love... Good morning from the

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commentary position on the corner of Ormeau Avenue as the parade

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makes its way along Bedford Street, en route to the field at Barnett's

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Demesne. There are demonstrations across the province today but in

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Belfast, nine districts are taking place, something like 60 it banned.

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Of which, 23 are from Scotland. -- 68 band us. Very colourful. --

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bands. The parade is going down Clifton Street and Donegall Street

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into Royal Avenue, Donegall Place and past the City Hall, the

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Cenotaph, up the Dublin Road, into the Lisburn Road all the way to

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Balmoral Avenue, turning left and then to the field at Barnett's

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Demesne. As Helen said, the streets are packed with people who have

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been here for a couple of hours on a very good sunny morning. Despite

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the terrible summer we have had, today is a very good day, not much

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wind, good sunshine and not much of a breeze. I am joined this morning

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by Professor David Fitzpatrick from Trinity College Dublin, who has

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written extensively about the Orange Order and is working on a

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book on its history. How far back as the Belfast parade go?

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Incredibly, we have records from 7097 onwards, 250 years ago. In the

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newsletter, there was a report after Twelfth July about Orangemen

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assembling early in the morning, going through the streets with

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music playing and drums and colours flying. Different devices such as a

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painting of King William on horseback and an numerous body of

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people along Linenhall Street. It was nobbled to have numerous groups

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of girls arranged and walking in procession, many of whom have come

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from different parts of the country. Even then, there was a hint of

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Orange festival spirit. It goes back in history. It is interesting

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how things have changed. You have come from Dublin to join us and the

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Orange Order has been down to Dublin recently? The Secretary had

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the opportunity to address this an end and given an -- an excellent

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address. -- the Seanad. Even opposition parties have recognised

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the Orange Order has been something cultural from the North and South.

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Here we are, the Shankill Road loyal Orange Lodge. Passing by at

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the moment. Flanked by the Ulster and the Union flag. This is the

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oldest lodge in the district. First It is always an amazing spectacle

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with all the colour and the sounds of the bands, one giving way to the

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next and some very big bands in the parade. The music is essential.

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has always been a major part of the processions right from the start of

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the The style changes and unsafe. There would have been some side

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drums and the Fife in the earlier days and later on, pipe bands,

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accordion bands and the like. Today, mainly flute bands. As what you

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mentioned, there is a large proportion from Scotland today.

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Many of those bands were not be composed of Orangemen but people

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from a much broader function than merely playing on the Twelfth. Part

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of what is sometimes called the broader Unionist family. 1963. Just

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passing us by. And bringing to an end, distant number nine and then

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back to district number one. Medium-sized. 15 Lodges with seven

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bands today. District number one is led by the District Master Robert

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Gardner and the Deputy Master, This is always a very popular place

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to watch the parades. Orangemen of all ages take part in the parades.

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He and it is, a very distinguished writer, he has commented on the

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past been saying -- seeing his first parade? -- Louis MacNeice. He

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spoke of this as one of the most extraordinary sights and the world

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and he said he was going to Belfast to broadcast. One of the most

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extraordinary sights in the world. In Carrickfergus. When he reported

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on that procession, he said it was crazy, banners depicting Sanson

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fighting the Lion, the storming, Lord back and say it, lots of local

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work and so it continues. -- Beconsfield. Today, still, very

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much the colour and spectacle he would have witnessed. In Bedford

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Street, in the crowds, we have Helen... Grant Dillon, tell me

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about yourself and what particular Orange Lodge do you represent?

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6, East Belfast. Maya Lodge, it is quite unusual with the white

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collarette and the crimson. We were formed in the 1930s from survivors

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of World War One. Why do have such different colours? We originally

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had the traditional collarette and because of the World War One

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connection, with the Battle of the Somme, we had a prominent remembers

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with the white collarette and the crimson. It is quite unique.

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have been urging for many years. Somebody said 30? Not possibly

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that? Probably more than 30, when I was in the junior Orange Lodge. 30

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years of pounding the streets of Belfast, yes. You must have gone

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through a lot of shoe leather. You will have seen a lot of changes?

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The biggest change would have been the types of band that parade,

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there is the demise of pipe bands very colourful and enjoyable day.

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Europe and is at the back of the parades are you can still stand and

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watch as they go by and then catch up? -- you're banned. -- your band

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is. Along with another large, we have a band from Scotland. It is a

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very enjoyable day. It is a great family day and it gets more and

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more enjoyable. Do enjoy it. We welcome back to you. There are

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still here with district number one. Very smartly turned out. And many

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of them in military style clothing? The roots of Orangeism was that

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connection with the militia back in 7097. And there has been that

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Bellucci influence but interestingly, modified and

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Orangemen Spiegel going for a walk and not marching and they do not

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follow formal protocol. -- Orangemen speak of. Although they

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would carry swords, they are not for military purposes but they're

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decorative. The umbrellas have replaced so words? There they

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probably replaced walking sticks around 1912 to show respectability.

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That was the year of the bowling had and the walking stick.

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Replacing the more military influences from the past. This

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gives us a lovely view right down the length of Bedford Street. With

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a mixture of the buildings from the past and present. On the right-hand

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side, the Ulster Hall. What was it that, the old you its building. --

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Ewarts. And then the Linenhall Library. Again, we are still with

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district number one. Lots of families come to watch the parade

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here in this part of Belfast. The law would stock Ulster Scots

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band.. -- Lower Stockman.s. It is a good distance right up to the field,

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Barnett's Demesne. Officially, they say five miles. Then, of course,

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after the demonstration at the field, there is the walk back.

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Which is often more difficult than walking down. In the past,

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Orangemen would have to go at least seven miles out of town, sometimes

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in the pouring rain, to have their entertainment in the field. Orange

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lilies. Traditional. The date back to a very early period when the

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decorations were less obvious than today. They had those costumes

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which many spectators wear and the Union flags. Rosettes and poppies.

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I am told that these types of lily which are in use, they're different

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from today. Very smart turn out on Now, we're going to take you

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further away from here to the City I am going to do my best. There is

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a break in the music so I can talk to Andrew Irvine. Tell the people

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about the festivities at city hall? City centre management has been

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working with the Chamber of Commerce to open up the city centre

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once the parade passes at 12pm. The elements of that this year is the

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food market which is just in front of me in the grounds of City Hall.

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Also Festival of Fools are out entertaining all afternoon. Really

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family focused entertainment. Fantastic. How does the preparation

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of for an event like this differ from other things that happen in

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the grounds of City Hall during the year? The major issue is food for.

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This is the largest, singles at four event for the city centre on

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any day of the year. I have always been keen that the shops do not

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keep their shutters down. Retail should take advantage of this. For

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the vast majority of retailers, it is a fairly normal day of the

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calendar. We are lucky at the moment because people are watching

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the parade, but the food hall will get very busy since. Who is the key

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target? This is about opening up the event, not only to tourists,

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who we need to provide for, but also for the people of Belfast. A

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good proportion of our population want nothing to do with the parade,

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but as a city we need to have a neutral space. So the activities in

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the afternoon, the food market, the street performers, I want to appeal

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to everybody across Belfast no matter what your background. This

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place is a neutral city and very This logic was originally formed in

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It is harder, I suppose, to say just how many Orangemen are on the

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street today. There must be many thousands. There would have been

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far more in the distant past. There were up to 20,000 members in

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Belfast and probably 300 lodges. This was at the peak of the

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organisation after the Great War. Falls Road Methodist Lodge. Then

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Belfast Harbour Lodge. It goes back to 1896. And that points to the

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fact that so many Orange lodges are associated with particular churches.

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Also particular trades. Particular walks in life. We're coming to the

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end of the district number ones. It is a day for young and old.

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Plenty of enthusiasm and energy. is certainly a time for action, it

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is all noise and movement. We are moving to district number two. It

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has ten lodges in the parade today, accompanied by three bands. Ronald

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Walker, it is his first year as The strong Scottish presence in the

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plans is very interesting. It points to the strength of Orangeism

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in Scotland. In many parts of the world it has become a much smaller

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movement. We are going over to Helen Mark again who has more

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visitors to talk to. Such a grand array of bans going pastas at the

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moment. Let me introduce the Reverend Mervyn Gibson. We meet on

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this corner every year. People will begin to talk! How are you feeling

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now that the parade is underway? is great. Lovely weather, at a

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great crowd, a good days so far. You are watching the bans as they

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go past. You must recognise a lot of faces. We have over 23 bands

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from Scotland. There will be 62 bans in this parade from Belfast

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alone. Let me introduce Sean Collins, he is the former mayor of

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Drogheda. The Rev and invites you to come along every year? That is

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right. And it is an enjoyable way of celebrating what happened.

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heard that for many years, you have been inviting Orange men down to

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the Boyne and doing what down there? Basically taking them of --

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on a tour on historical sites. When William and James decided to fight

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their, they made it one of the most historic areas in the island of

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Ireland. Since 1978 I had been meeting with groups at the boy in

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the summer all traditions. -- at the Boyne. How do they respond to

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being there and you taking them round? I always suggest to them I

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can tell them whichever version that they want, the Catholic

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version, the Protestant religion or the truth! As your own famous

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comedian once said, you won the battle, but we got the River! And

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we are holding on to it. The it is lovely to have you with us. I hope

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you both enjoy the rest of the day. It always interests me how a parade

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like this is organised because we sometimes expect to see the head of

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the parade here at 10:30am, but I am sure they have a tight schedule

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to fit two. It all looks so very smoothly through the streets,

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occasionally there is a momentary pause and then they move on again.

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It is moving very smoothly this morning. Perfect conditions. Some

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very colourful spectators to enjoy the spectacle. Everybody seems to

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be having a good time at the moment. At times the songs can seem

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overwhelming. But as you say, there is order through it all. At this

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point, it District number-two is giving way to district number three

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which has 14 lodges. And there will be four bands and one ladies

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district as well. This district has the 36th Ulster Division large. The

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flags were made by the Royal School of needlework in 1937, dedicated to

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the memory of the men from their There is the colour for the days.

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There is a much more casual approach, but it is still very

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smart. It is quite a change from the demure clothing of the past.

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will hand you back now to the grounds of the city hall.

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We are out on the street outside the city hall. Jonathan Bell and

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former Lord Mayor Jim Rogers joined me. You have walked down here?

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have come all the way from East Belfast. It is a great day, people

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are here from all over the world. How much of what is going on here

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is a first for the city centre? shops have been open for a number

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of years. It brings so much to Northern Ireland. There are

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thousands of people here, people come from all over the world. The

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festival, and the additional entertainment puts us on the world

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map. It is one of the greatest festivals in the world. Is this

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more about appealing to people already here or attracting a new

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audience? We would like to see a brand new audience as well as an

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existing ones. People are here from all walks of life. As I walk

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through the streets this morning, it was interesting to see members

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from the Roman Catholic community that I know personally. That is

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what we want to see. This is a day for everybody. We want to see

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Northern Ireland going from strength to strength and all of us

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except in each other's religion, culture and political views rather

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than having all this fighting. It is not in the interest of any one

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to have a fights in the street. We want people to really enjoy

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themselves. It is great to have the shops opening for its fourth year.

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We have the food hall for the first time in the grounds of the city

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hall. This should go on and on. know you gentlemen will be joining

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the parade very soon. We prayed in to St Anne's Cathedral and joined

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the main parade. Now you can see here something rather interesting.

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There are not usually many floats in this period, but in recent years

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there has been one. There is certainly this year. Afloat

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celebrating the centenary of the Ulster Covenant. This is a

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significant part of the commemoration. Yes, the Orange

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Order was a major player in arranging the Coddenham. -- the

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Continent. I think I saw Lord Laird at their. There is one of these

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temporary pauses in the parade, this does happens. It has got a

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little bit to go. One of the oldest lodges in the district is one for

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five, Royal York. -- 145. Here we go. The float is now making its way,

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commemorating the centenary of the signing of the Covenant. We have

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managed to persuade it Lord Laird to get down off the float and talk

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to me for a moment. We do not see many floats in the parade, but this

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was a special opportunity to have a theme on the float. This is the 100

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per anniversary of the covenant. We have a float about it and I am

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dressed of that someone -- as someone from 1912. It is very

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dapper. I think you rather enjoy getting dressed up like this.

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always enjoy the 12th. It is a great family day out! There are

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many bands going past. Are you marching days over? We love it. It

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is great to see so many people out, so many families, to us, it is a

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great day for assault. Why do you want to have a float in the parade

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when we are so used to the bans. We like to give people something to

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think about. We want to remind people about the 100 anniversary of

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the signing of the Covenant. He is a very important thing. I will need

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to let you go because you have to catch up with the float before it

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The Shankill potters and boys food band, one of the biggest in the

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parade with something like 100 There is a ladies' district here.

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What about Orange women? There is evidence of Lodges for women from

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1801. There was a large-scale organisation until 1912. But for

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the last century, there has been a significant number involved in the

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sister organisation, the Orange women. Coming up now, the Aneglo

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Davidson Lodge. And the Queen Victoria temperance Lodge. It

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changed its name to the present one following the death of Queen

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Victoria. There were many banners for Queen Victoria. On the moment

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of her death, that image could appear on a banner. We have not

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into Carrickfergus for a little while and we will now go over to

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Ralph McLean... The sun is beating down in Carrickfergus and I'm in

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danger of getting tanned. Who would have thought? The people are

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gathered in the streets. It is a very big day. This is a massive

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day? The fantastic. We have the weather and the crowds. It is a

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great location. I mentioned the East Antrim Combine, a here for the

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first time in one decade. Where are people coming from? A approximately

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80 Lodges and the first this too would be from Randalstown. And then

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Carrickfergus itself. And the area surrounded. Quite an extensive area,

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very large Orange community in this area. And the fantastic parade,

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usually. A great mix of dance. know better setting. Here with the

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noise in the background as people get ready but there is a real party

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atmosphere and it is great to welcome loads of people to the town

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on a day like this? I was walking round and there are a lot of

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Scottish accents and lots of people from the local area also. Fantastic

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numbers and it is a very historic venue with King William coming here

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in June 1690. All the special than the Orange Order Costa

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Carrickfergus. It is always about welcoming people, there is a chance

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to welcome people from all over to celebrate what is a real festival

:33:23.:33:29.

on a day like this? Yes, this is one of the flagship areas, along

:33:29.:33:33.

with Ballynahinch and Enniskillen. We have Flagship hosts giving out

:33:33.:33:37.

leaflets and talking to people and welcoming visitors and I have seen

:33:37.:33:41.

then an operation and an delighted that we have trained them in other

:33:41.:33:44.

venues. Carrickfergus has a fantastic team of people out and

:33:44.:33:49.

about to welcome everybody. The atmosphere is fantastic. We are

:33:49.:33:52.

looking forward to a very big day and you are looking forward to it

:33:52.:33:57.

and the sun shining. Absolutely, it is fantastic and I am looking

:33:57.:34:03.

forward to today. Whenever my lodge comes down. Brilliant. Thank you

:34:03.:34:10.

very much and enjoy the day. Let's go back to Belfast... Thank you. He

:34:10.:34:15.

is basking in sunshine. The Sun has disappeared a little bit over here.

:34:15.:34:20.

But it is a perfect day. Looking down the street, this is a wind

:34:20.:34:25.

tunnel between the tall buildings. It can be very breezy and I am sure

:34:25.:34:30.

very difficult to control the banners? Not too bad today. The

:34:30.:34:35.

perfect day, really. In the past, the banners would have been even

:34:36.:34:41.

larger than today and you not only had two people carrying them but up

:34:41.:34:47.

to six boys trying to control the movement. The banner we are looking

:34:47.:34:56.

at was William on the horse. The Prince of Orange. It is best known

:34:56.:35:00.

as the Prince by its members and they are originally from Donegal

:35:00.:35:08.

Road, Sandy Row. This was one of many temperance Lodges and at one

:35:08.:35:13.

time two-fifths of all Belfast Orangemen were either from

:35:13.:35:17.

temperance or total abstinence lodges. Not too many of those left.

:35:17.:35:22.

Members have to take the pledge. The Temperance is one when they do

:35:22.:35:29.

not drink in the Lodge hall. District number four. One of the

:35:29.:35:39.
:35:39.:35:41.

smaller districts. Nine Lodges and four bands. And the head of

:35:41.:35:51.
:35:51.:35:56.

district number four... Elgin lodge. Named after the Lord vice

:35:56.:36:02.

Chancellor of England? For the Conservatives. This lodge used to

:36:02.:36:06.

be a political powerhouse of the Orange Order in Northern Ireland.

:36:06.:36:11.

And a great many politicians in the past, Sir James Craig, Brian

:36:11.:36:14.

Faulkner, they belonged to it as well a senior members of the

:36:14.:36:19.

judiciary. At one time they chose not to take part in the procession

:36:19.:36:29.
:36:29.:36:33.

but to go separately. With his own tent. And as to look again up

:36:33.:36:40.

towards Bedford Street, Helen is still in the crowd? It is

:36:40.:36:43.

tremendous to welcome international visitors to come and see the

:36:43.:36:53.
:36:53.:36:54.

parades in the streets. Please introduce yourselves... IM from

:36:54.:37:02.

Bangladesh and this is my wife. On holiday? Yes. One holiday. It is

:37:02.:37:07.

very hard to here sometimes with this great noise of the bands

:37:07.:37:13.

create. What is your impression of the parade as it goes past? It is a

:37:13.:37:20.

wonderful festival. The best one I have seen in my life. I have never

:37:20.:37:27.

had this experience in my life. But so people say, take part. It is

:37:27.:37:34.

amazing. It is lovely to hear this being called a festival. Patricia.

:37:34.:37:44.
:37:44.:37:44.

You have invited her boyfriend bus- top had used in the parades before?

:37:44.:37:48.

I have not seen them live. I have just seen the bad press coverage

:37:48.:37:52.

that this sometimes gets so I decided to come down and see it for

:37:52.:37:58.

myself. One our impressions? thoroughly enjoyed myself. I had

:37:58.:38:03.

heard about the parades but I had never seen one live. I heard things

:38:03.:38:07.

about them back in England so I did not know what to expect. Everybody

:38:07.:38:11.

is having fun, young and old and everybody is having a great time.

:38:11.:38:15.

Are you going to propose to Patricia in the midst of the

:38:15.:38:19.

parade? Live on television? I think we believe that one for another

:38:19.:38:27.

day! I am sorry if I embarrass you. Thanks very much! Back to Walter

:38:27.:38:31.

Love... Thank you. We can do certain things on this programme

:38:31.:38:39.

but not others! A very nice you looking down at the junction of

:38:39.:38:45.

Ormeau Avenue and Bedford Street. Young enthusiasts. I like those

:38:45.:38:53.

sunglasses are! Very colourful Indeed. Lots of energy. Others are

:38:53.:39:03.
:39:03.:39:06.

simply happier to just spectate from the sidewalk. There are quite

:39:06.:39:16.
:39:16.:39:16.

a few changes in the style of sash. What determines the difference?

:39:17.:39:24.

the Sash is much larger. It goes sideways across the shoulders. It

:39:24.:39:28.

is said that the shortage of silk during the Great War was

:39:28.:39:32.

responsible for popularising the smaller, cheaper collarette. Just

:39:32.:39:39.

as that led to the smaller banners being secured. We have seen one or

:39:39.:39:47.

two lodges, including Lord Laird's Lodge wearing the sashes. Today, it

:39:47.:39:53.

is usually the correct that my father wore! -- collarette.

:39:53.:39:58.

great colour, as has been said, people have commented on that. It

:39:58.:40:05.

is a very colourful spectacle. in the past, processions like this

:40:05.:40:12.

could have been seen, Masonic processions, Hibernian, who and

:40:12.:40:17.

similar banners would have been on display. As with trade unions and

:40:17.:40:24.

gilts. This is one of the few surviving spectacles of that kind.

:40:24.:40:29.

A and we can now go back down the street and to David O'Reilly at the

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City Hall... I have been broadcasting for 40 minutes and I

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have demanded an meal break and were better than this food stall

:40:39.:40:42.

outside the city hall. Michelle Shirlow, tell us what you have

:40:42.:40:47.

going on? What's going on, local food for people visiting Belfast

:40:47.:40:51.

and the tourists and one special thing at the then it is the Titanic

:40:51.:40:55.

menu because we have found that tourists are very interested in

:40:55.:40:59.

Belfast's heritage around Titanic and we're doing something different,

:40:59.:41:04.

not just first class but second class and third class. If people

:41:04.:41:08.

want to come and have a sample and find out how people ate on the

:41:08.:41:13.

Titanic, we can teach them about that. And today is a very Northern

:41:13.:41:17.

Irish day. What are the local foods that you are proud of telling

:41:17.:41:22.

people about? We are very proud to have things like Armagh Bramley

:41:22.:41:26.

apples, which has been turned into this Waldorf pudding. And the

:41:26.:41:30.

Bramley apple has special European status as well, just like the

:41:30.:41:34.

Comber potatoes and Lough Neagh deals. Food culture in Northern

:41:34.:41:38.

Ireland is taking off. And porridge oats all the way from Armagh. That

:41:38.:41:43.

is a very healthy alternative and that was served to all classes. But

:41:43.:41:50.

there are trainers around here with local B. Some people selling salmon

:41:50.:41:56.

and that is from Glenarm. There is a great variety of local food and

:41:56.:41:59.

lovely deserts and traditional trade bakes. It would not be

:41:59.:42:03.

Northern Ireland if there was no sweet stuff at the end. People are

:42:03.:42:07.

usually used to burgers and ice- cream. It is very nice to see some

:42:07.:42:11.

vegetarian options and all sorts of other staff at the food stall. I

:42:11.:42:16.

will try some of this wine jelly. On the job but we will keep that

:42:16.:42:21.

quiet. Back to Walter Love... I am glad to know that the food stalls

:42:21.:42:24.

will be staying open later and we will have an opportunity to go to

:42:24.:42:33.

that. We are moving into one of the biggest distance. No. 5. That is

:42:34.:42:40.

Sandy Row. And it has 28 Lodges. 15 plants. And there is a ladies'

:42:40.:42:50.
:42:50.:42:50.

Apology for the loss of subtitles for 40 seconds

:42:50.:43:30.

Tied to just sit back and relax and It certainly creates a great deal

:43:30.:43:35.

of atmosphere? The Mesic is an essential ingredient. And there is

:43:35.:43:42.

a very famous couple in the crowd! There is something odd about the

:43:42.:43:47.

music. Although all of those people involved normally know the words to

:43:47.:43:53.

most of the tunes, they hardly ever sing. That is something to explore,

:43:53.:44:00.

maybe? But the music... It must be very energising to people. I'm sure

:44:00.:44:07.

a lot of people who are not used to walking for five miles, perhaps?

:44:07.:44:11.

The bands have always been essential in the military world and

:44:11.:44:18.

very important in religion as well. The Salvation Army. Always as a way

:44:18.:44:23.

of getting people to move together. To combine. Music is that it's

:44:23.:44:32.

essential ingredient. The district five, they have that a banner read.

:44:32.:44:38.

And Sandy Row, of course, has an honoured place in Orangeism. The

:44:39.:44:44.

first purpose-built Orange Hall was built in Belfast in 1868. And it

:44:44.:44:49.

was replaced in 1910 and one of those very famous sights, the site

:44:49.:44:52.

where it is said that King William's troops reportedly camped

:44:52.:45:02.
:45:02.:45:09.

Everything would suggest the history of the Boyne, and William's

:45:09.:45:19.
:45:19.:45:22.

arrival was part of orange folklore. I hesitate to say that they are

:45:22.:45:29.

treated like the relics of saints. Sandy Row Orange ladies district

:45:29.:45:36.

number one was founded in 1912 by the member of a very well known

:45:36.:45:46.
:45:46.:45:53.

Sandy Row family. This year marks the centenary of their founding.

:45:53.:45:57.

The family responsible for a great proportion of the banners in the

:45:57.:46:06.

past, they no longer exist. We are going back again to Helen Mark.

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am sure you will recognise my next guest, Mark Wilson he is a great

:46:11.:46:16.

drummer and percussionist and a presenter of an Ulster Scots

:46:16.:46:24.

programme. Welcome. Tell me, what are your thoughts about the music

:46:25.:46:30.

in the parade this year? There seems to be a lot of people really

:46:30.:46:36.

enjoying their music. For me, that is the most important thing. The

:46:36.:46:42.

musical standard is really high. One or two may need a little more

:46:42.:46:49.

practice. I think there has been an improvement over the years. There

:46:49.:46:53.

has. The improvement in the marching standard of that bands and

:46:53.:47:03.
:47:03.:47:05.

the appearance have helped that bands look a lot better. Deportment

:47:05.:47:10.

has improved immeasurably. But the musical standard as well, I would

:47:10.:47:15.

like to see it improve even more. What about the tunes they are

:47:15.:47:20.

playing? I was really surprised earlier on tour here a band playing

:47:20.:47:30.
:47:30.:47:39.

a pop tune. -- to hear a band. I heard another band playing at

:47:39.:47:44.

Yankee doodle Dandy. All sorts of music, all sorts of tunes being

:47:44.:47:50.

incorporated. It is quite hard surely, you're in your band, you

:47:50.:47:57.

have to keep your mind on the you tune. That is the thing that the

:47:57.:48:03.

good bands would be able to do. You need to focus on how the whole band

:48:03.:48:10.

sounds, not just be a little island by yourself. You need to think as a

:48:10.:48:18.

band, and the bands who do that, signed the best. More young

:48:18.:48:25.

defenders, excellent. The best band I had seen today. You must have

:48:25.:48:30.

recognised a few faces going past, you did a lot of drum up tutoring

:48:30.:48:38.

over the years. Bided to To a lot of the guys here today. -- I

:48:38.:48:45.

tutored a lot of the guys here today. I know you take your

:48:45.:48:51.

drumming skills all over Europe, never forget to come back to

:48:51.:49:01.

Belfast and get our dramas surrounding their best. Quite an

:49:01.:49:07.

achievement, being able to carry on a conversation with such an

:49:07.:49:17.
:49:17.:49:20.

incredibly strong musical I think it is true to say that the

:49:20.:49:28.

bans are smarter than ever this year. -- at the bands. They seemed

:49:28.:49:33.

in good order even though the 11th Night has not long past. I am not

:49:33.:49:38.

sure how you can keep that sort of energy up all the way to the field

:49:38.:49:48.
:49:48.:50:06.

and back again. I hope they manage I suspect that as we have said this

:50:06.:50:12.

morning, that the military style of bands is possibly even more popular

:50:12.:50:22.
:50:22.:50:23.

these days. Despite the changing character of that bands, it has

:50:23.:50:28.

survived and shown continuity from 1799 onwards. But what has changed

:50:28.:50:35.

is that bands over the last century had become more professional, not

:50:35.:50:40.

exactly professional, but much more organised and it has led to a

:50:40.:50:45.

higher standard of performance. What always strikes me is the size

:50:45.:50:50.

of the band. One Banda was up to 100 members, quite an achievement

:50:50.:51:00.
:51:00.:51:21.

I would imagine the cost of equipping a band with instruments

:51:21.:51:27.

and uniform it is quite considerable today. It was always a

:51:27.:51:34.

major cost. Ind times when many Orangemen were not well-off, it was

:51:34.:51:44.
:51:44.:52:03.

very difficult for it particular This is the view as we look along

:52:03.:52:13.
:52:13.:52:14.

the Dublin Road. Then they have got a long run up the Lisburn Road.

:52:14.:52:21.

They will then end up at the field. At the field there is a religious

:52:21.:52:27.

service. There are a number of speeches and a religious service.

:52:27.:52:32.

Not often very well attended, and that has been reported from the

:52:32.:52:38.

earliest times. People came to relax in the field, and only a few

:52:38.:52:41.

hundred would actually listen to the speech. But there was still

:52:41.:52:45.

something comforting about the speeches, much the same year after

:52:46.:52:54.

year, delivered by clergy or sometimes a distinguished speaker.

:52:54.:53:04.
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That is quite an impressive band in A game, the occasional pause as

:53:25.:53:29.

they make their way. Inevitable with so many people involved. So

:53:29.:53:39.
:53:39.:53:42.

many bans for -- so many bands, so many people. Very often those cars

:53:42.:53:49.

will have a special number plate. Interesting point, on many of the

:53:49.:53:54.

banners which have a portrait of King William, he is on a white

:53:54.:54:01.

charger. That is not historically correct, is it? We do not really

:54:01.:54:06.

know what the colour of his horse was. We know some early Flemish

:54:06.:54:13.

paintings that often it was depicted as a grey charger. The

:54:13.:54:19.

notion, with all its religious connotations of purity and a virtue,

:54:19.:54:24.

of a white horse was popularised in the late eighteenth-century. That

:54:24.:54:33.

has become iconic for Orange men. Most of the banners we see of King

:54:33.:54:41.

William at the Boyne, they are renditions of Benjamin West. Things

:54:41.:54:50.

take place a little bit later in Carrickfergus. Things are moving

:54:50.:54:55.

ahead. You can see the parade coming towards us. I am joined by

:54:55.:55:00.

the man who knows all about it, the district master Jim a clerk. You

:55:01.:55:09.

must be proud today? I'm am. This is a fantastic day. Great party

:55:09.:55:14.

atmosphere. This is something you were very proud of? This is

:55:14.:55:19.

something that the Orange Institution has done over the last

:55:19.:55:23.

five years. We have tried to encourage people to come and enjoy

:55:23.:55:28.

themselves. We see all the stalls around us, there are people playing

:55:28.:55:34.

games, there is a festival atmosphere. What is happening here

:55:34.:55:37.

tomorrow in this harbour? This is the place where King William

:55:37.:55:42.

arrived on his way to the Boyne. Tomorrow it will be the place to

:55:42.:55:47.

be? Tomorrow we will have a re- enactment of the siege of the

:55:47.:55:52.

castle and the landing of King William. On Saturday we have a

:55:52.:55:57.

walking tour of the town. We have a continental market here until

:55:57.:56:03.

Saturday as well. The celebrations for or the Twelfth do not stock

:56:03.:56:10.

today, they carry on until Sunday. We have had six weeks of events and

:56:10.:56:16.

it would like to assign all the organisers. Today will be a massive

:56:16.:56:25.

day. This is the first time in ten years that we have had it here.

:56:26.:56:35.

I am only too glad to be district master to welcome all my friends.

:56:35.:56:41.

We have bands from Scotland and further afield. People are here to

:56:41.:56:48.

enjoy themselves today. Along day for you today? I will probably be

:56:48.:56:53.

free about midnight tonight. But I love it, I would not be anywhere

:56:53.:56:59.

else. You said earlier on about King William landing here, it is

:56:59.:57:06.

just like that wealth has come back to where it belongs. -- that the

:57:06.:57:14.

Twelfth. 2012 is a special year for one than

:57:14.:57:24.
:57:24.:57:36.

taking part in the Carrickfergus When we think about the music of

:57:36.:57:46.
:57:46.:58:06.

the Orange Order, flutes and drums We are a silver band. We have got

:58:06.:58:11.

more orchestral brass instruments than the most are familiar with.

:58:11.:58:21.
:58:21.:58:23.

Not your normal fruits or accordion is. -- flutes. It takes quite a bit

:58:23.:58:27.

to learn how to play the instruments and then put that into

:58:27.:58:33.

practice and play together as a group. You have a wide range of

:58:33.:58:40.

ages here? We do. Primary school children, right through to people

:58:40.:58:48.

young at heart. There are a few silver bands around, but not many

:58:48.:58:58.
:58:58.:59:08.

that parade. Not in this area Founded in 1882, they're

:59:08.:59:15.

celebrating their 130 of the anniversary this year. The band

:59:15.:59:21.

started in 1882. The lodge members got together and decided they would

:59:21.:59:29.

like to form a band took the lead in the local parades. It is a big

:59:29.:59:36.

day, the Twelfth, what does it mean to you? It is a great day, a day

:59:36.:59:41.

where we get everybody together for the whole day. We meet here early

:59:41.:59:51.
:59:51.:59:52.

in the morning, have breakfast, and then we are off. We join the rest

:59:52.:59:57.

of the lodges and head to the main demonstration in Carrickfergus.

:59:57.:00:03.

long would it take a novelist like me to get up to the right level to

:00:03.:00:13.
:00:13.:00:20.

plate in the band? We will give you And as a prep takes a break, we can

:00:20.:00:25.

look at pictures recorded earlier of the ceremony at the Cenotaph in

:00:25.:00:32.

the grounds of the City Hall. And they were laid by the county master

:00:32.:00:42.
:00:42.:00:42.

Apology for the loss of subtitles for 40 seconds

:00:42.:01:37.

That was the service at the Cenotaph earlier this morning with

:01:37.:01:43.

the Last Post being played by George Spence. We can see the

:01:43.:01:45.

banners throughout the morning depicting a wide range of people

:01:45.:01:50.

and events. But if you wondered how much work goes into making one of

:01:50.:02:00.
:02:00.:02:08.

This is Garvagh, Nestle and it is famous amongst Orange men and women

:02:08.:02:16.

as the site of the Battle of Garvagh, on 26th July 1813. Today,

:02:16.:02:20.

it is a place of peace and tranquillity and home to a man who

:02:20.:02:30.
:02:30.:02:32.

has a unique place within the Orange Order. I am a traditional

:02:32.:02:35.

Banner artist and I paint the banners for all the traditional

:02:35.:02:41.

Lodges. What is the process involved in painting and banner?

:02:41.:02:45.

have to decide and what colour of silk. And then we work on the

:02:45.:02:50.

picture and what lettering. Every banner is different. How long does

:02:50.:02:59.

it take to finish? About two weeks. I would usually work 18 hours a day.

:02:59.:03:04.

I have been painting since I was a very young boy, I have always loved

:03:04.:03:08.

sign writing and never thought I would paint banners. I started off

:03:08.:03:14.

writing signs. That was before Banner pictures. I thought I would

:03:14.:03:19.

try one and just rolled from there. I had to give up sign writing to

:03:19.:03:25.

start painting banners. 18 years. Everyone tells a story. This year

:03:25.:03:30.

the trend was the signing of the Covenant and it is nice to see the

:03:30.:03:36.

young ones, asking, what does that mean? That gives an opportunity to

:03:36.:03:41.

give some history. Tell them about their culture. Tell them about what

:03:41.:03:46.

the culture really means. The at the end of the day, what makes for

:03:46.:03:50.

a good banner? The best thing is to make the picture as dramatic as

:03:50.:03:54.

possible so it is like an advertising sign, it has to shoot

:03:54.:04:00.

out at you and says, this is what we stand for. We are two years

:04:00.:04:09.

ahead of ourselves so we have plenty to look forward to. There is

:04:10.:04:12.

a good chance that you'll see a banner painted by William going

:04:12.:04:19.

past. The best part is putting the letters on because that is the end!

:04:19.:04:29.
:04:29.:04:33.

That is where you start? That is Helen finding all about the art of

:04:33.:04:39.

making banners. And then Carrickfergus again, Ralph McLean...

:04:39.:04:42.

Yes, it is all happening and the parade is in full flow. It is

:04:42.:04:46.

sounding good, the weather is fantastic. The sun is beating down.

:04:46.:04:56.
:04:56.:04:56.

These two ladies must be sweltering. You are the Welcome Host? We greet

:04:56.:05:01.

people and take the visitors around, show them were the toilets are and

:05:01.:05:04.

what they can get something to eat and hope that they enjoy their day.

:05:04.:05:09.

What sort of people have to be meeting? From all over? Plenty of

:05:10.:05:14.

people, from Scotland, England, we had one Canadian and several

:05:14.:05:19.

Australians. It has been great. There is a good atmosphere on the

:05:19.:05:24.

streets and everybody seems to be in party mood? A it is great, it is

:05:24.:05:28.

a brilliant day and the weather is good and this is all free. If a new

:05:28.:05:33.

have family members? You were waiting to turn his people? I have.

:05:33.:05:38.

My young son and my husband are both in the pipe band leading the

:05:38.:05:44.

parade so that is great to see them out. In terms of a day like this,

:05:45.:05:48.

it is a chance to celebrate and have fun in this beautiful town and

:05:48.:05:53.

you are both from the town so this must mean a lot? It is lovely to

:05:53.:05:57.

see Carrickfergus with so many people and the sun shining and to

:05:57.:06:01.

see the castle at its best and have everybody enjoyed themselves.

:06:01.:06:08.

will let you go back to do a job. Fantastic. Back to Belfast. A thank

:06:08.:06:14.

you. We can now take a troop back in time, courtesy of the BBC

:06:14.:06:24.
:06:24.:06:27.

archive, to look at the Twelfth The first thing apart from that

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fact that this is and black and white, this is 1950s in Donegall

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Square, and this is more formal? The black-and-white just extent to

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which the general difference. The greater formality, the seriousness

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with which Orangemen and their spectators took the ceremony. At

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the height of Northern Ireland's existence. A this takes us up into

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Bedford Street. And then... 1969. We moved to Bedford Street and then

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to the Lisburn Road. The Windsor Avenue. We're at the moment still

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an Donegall Square. We are now moving to the Lisburn Road. Windsor

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:07:23.:07:23.

Avenue. And lots of people on the pavement? Yes. Any of the banners.

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They probably have the same designs as the ones we have been looking at

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today. But they would not be the same banners in most cases since

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the life of the banner is only a couple of decades. That was 1969.

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We can now move to 1971 in colour. And from the City Hall... The

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camera looks forward, through Royal Avenue. And then on to Donegall

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Place. Again, very smart in those days. 1971? Troubled times but you

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would not guess that. And quite a range of silver band. And accordion

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band. The -- bands. And we are now pretty firmly on Lisburn Road.

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Because in 1971, the field was at Finaghy. So the cameras are taking

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us up the Lisburn Road. That long walk. And then we can see them

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turning off. Turning right. Down towards the field at Finaghy. Very

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smart. Very well disciplined. Helicopter shot. Moving down

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towards the field. From the crowds in Finaghy all those years ago to

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the streets of Belfast today. Well, I have had such a good time today.

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I have met so many people. And here are three very special young women.

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My name is Raquel. You are from different parts of Spain. We are on

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a course that we are doing. The three of us are English teachers.

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And we are just learning. learning about the culture. What a

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perfect occasion. What is the impression? It has been very

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contagious, with the music. Obviously, we learn a little bit

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about what is happening. But the colours and the music, it is very

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exciting for us to see. There will be a lot of cultural parades across

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Spain. What religion and very his historic events? Yes, in fact we

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have a lot of traditional religious marching bands. And lots of

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traditional Streetdance as well. Lots of music. Many not for

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political reasons, I guess. Something different but similar in

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a way. The drums are striking behind us. What do you feel

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whenever you hear those drums? You just enjoy it? Lovely to meet you.

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Thanks. Back to Walter Love... Thank you. As you can see, this is

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the Boyne when the parade comes to a halt. But there is some informal

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entertainment going on. Quite a bit of activity. That is quite a nice

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scene? It is indeed. Still no rain. It has been a very good day. And

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the prospects for this afternoon, because we must remember that

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everybody here, when they get to the field, they have to walk five

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miles again to come back again. Very colourful, very relaxed scene

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in Bedford Street. At the centre of Belfast. That is all we have time

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for. But remember, you can watch this programme on the BBC iPlayer

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