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-Secrets... | 0:00:09 | 0:00:10 | |
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-..deceit... | 0:00:14 | 0:00:15 | |
-..violence. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:17 | |
-Every criminal case is a distinct -challenge for the detective. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:21 | |
-To discover the truth, they need -patience and curiosity. | 0:00:24 | 0:00:29 | |
-Tonight, I go back to the 1990s... | 0:00:39 | 0:00:41 | |
-..to investigate the murder -of a woman in Carmarthenshire. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:45 | |
-We knew straightaway that a serious -crime had been committed... | 0:00:47 | 0:00:51 | |
-..and that a woman had been killed. | 0:00:52 | 0:00:54 | |
-Dyfed Powys police detectives -raced to catch the killer... | 0:00:55 | 0:00:59 | |
-..who was at large -in a close-knit community. | 0:01:00 | 0:01:03 | |
-Everyone was stunned to discover -that a local person was responsible. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:08 | |
-Bancyfelin, near Carmarthen. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:36 | |
-On Thursday, 21 June 1990... | 0:01:37 | 0:01:40 | |
-..a local farmer -made a shocking discovery. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:45 | |
-Bill Davies, a farmer -from the Bancyfelin area... | 0:01:50 | 0:01:53 | |
-..was out in his Land Rover checking -on his cattle and sheep. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:56 | |
-Just before 10.00pm last night... | 0:01:57 | 0:01:59 | |
-..he came across a red Metro -parked in a lane... | 0:01:59 | 0:02:02 | |
-..about a quarter of a mile -down this road. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:05 | |
-Uncle Bill used to check -on the stock late at night. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:12 | |
-He used to go into the top field -and drive through the fields... | 0:02:13 | 0:02:18 | |
-..and come out -at the bottom of the valley. | 0:02:18 | 0:02:21 | |
-When he got to the lane at the -bottom, a car was parked there. | 0:02:21 | 0:02:25 | |
-When he looked inside the car, -there was someone in there. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:29 | |
-A woman was lying -on the back seat of the car. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:36 | |
-She was dead. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:39 | |
-The farmer went to a nearby house -to telephone the police. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:53 | |
-It was a surprise to everyone. -It was quite frightening. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:00 | |
-This is a quiet, rural area. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:02 | |
-A detective from Dyfed Powys Police -was called in to inspect the scene. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:12 | |
-There was a woman's body -in the back of the Metro. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:22 | |
-She had sustained very serious -head injuries. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:25 | |
-It was also very likely that -she had been sexually assaulted. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:30 | |
-It was a very unusual occurrence -for this area. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:35 | |
-It's a very quiet area -with a very low crime rate. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:38 | |
-We knew straightaway that a serious -crime had been committed... | 0:03:38 | 0:03:43 | |
-..and that a woman had been killed. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:45 | |
-At around the same time -as the farmer's 999 call... | 0:03:51 | 0:03:54 | |
-..police received another call -from the village. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:57 | |
-We received a call from Dr Alan Simm -who said that his wife... | 0:03:59 | 0:04:03 | |
-..had gone to Cardiff in the morning -at about 7.30am... | 0:04:03 | 0:04:06 | |
-..and had not returned home. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:08 | |
-When he told us her car registration -number, we quickly realized that... | 0:04:08 | 0:04:13 | |
-..the person in the car -was his wife, Jane Simm. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:16 | |
-Jane Amanda Simm was 29 years old... | 0:04:19 | 0:04:22 | |
-..and was married to biochemist, -Dr Alan Simm. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:26 | |
-The couple lived at Brynderi Farm -on the outskirts of Bancyfelin... | 0:04:31 | 0:04:36 | |
-..a quarter of a mile from -where Jane's body was found. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:40 | |
-The couple had moved from -Hertfordshire to Carmarthenshire... | 0:04:44 | 0:04:49 | |
-..in September 1988. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:51 | |
-Alan was a Biology tutor -to local students... | 0:04:51 | 0:04:54 | |
-..at his own laboratory -on the farm. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:56 | |
-Jane was a horse riding instructor -in St Clears. | 0:04:57 | 0:05:01 | |
-Alan Simm was in shock and said -that he had moved to the country... | 0:05:03 | 0:05:07 | |
-..in order to live a quiet life. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
-According to Dr Simm, the last time -he saw his wife was that morning... | 0:05:13 | 0:05:18 | |
-..when she left the farm -to go shopping in Cardiff. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:22 | |
-He was shocked at losing his wife... | 0:05:24 | 0:05:27 | |
-..especially under such -difficult circumstances. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:31 | |
-He couldn't believe -that someone like his wife... | 0:05:31 | 0:05:36 | |
-..had lost her life -in such circumstances. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:39 | |
-Friday. The morning after -the body was found. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:54 | |
-A forensic team and police dogs -began searching for clues. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:59 | |
-Police officers and dogs -are here again today... | 0:06:09 | 0:06:12 | |
-..searching the fields and hedges... | 0:06:12 | 0:06:15 | |
-..for the weapon used -to kill Mrs Simm. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:18 | |
-The red Metro was also examined -for any evidence of the attack. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:26 | |
-There was damage -to the front of the car. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:34 | |
-It had a roof rack -and the number is D849 WFL. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:40 | |
-Detectives needed to find out -Jane's last movements... | 0:06:50 | 0:06:54 | |
-..after she left the farm. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:56 | |
-They needed witnesses -who might have seen her. | 0:06:56 | 0:06:59 | |
-So, the team began making enquiries -in the nearby villages. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:05 | |
-The following morning, -the priority was... | 0:07:11 | 0:07:14 | |
-..to carry out -house-to-house enquiries. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:18 | |
-We needed to find out her movements -and whether anyone had seen her. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:25 | |
-For example, if her husband said -she'd set off for Cardiff... | 0:07:26 | 0:07:29 | |
-..had the police seen the car -or stopped her and spoken to her. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:34 | |
-But they were unsuccessful. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:38 | |
-No-one had seen Jane Simm that day. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:42 | |
-Instinct told the detectives -that something wasn't right. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:46 | |
-People in rural areas tend to notice -and remember what goes on. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:56 | |
-That was one of Dyfed Powys' -strengths. | 0:07:56 | 0:07:58 | |
-We gained so much information from -the house-to-house enquiries. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:04 | |
-Jane Simm had not been seen -in public since 5.30pm... | 0:08:05 | 0:08:08 | |
-..on the day before she disappeared. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:11 | |
-The police turned to the press -to appeal for information. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:16 | |
-It's very important that we appeal -to the public... | 0:08:16 | 0:08:20 | |
-..and ask them to think back -to last Thursday... | 0:08:20 | 0:08:23 | |
-..because we have no idea where Mrs -Simm went after leaving the house... | 0:08:24 | 0:08:28 | |
-..at 7.30am, until her body was -found on the Thursday evening. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:33 | |
-They recreated her final movements. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:36 | |
-She was wearing clothes similar -to those exhibited this morning... | 0:08:38 | 0:08:42 | |
-..by police officer, Ann Lewis - -sunglasses, green wellingtons... | 0:08:42 | 0:08:46 | |
-..and dark blue clothing -with the words... | 0:08:47 | 0:08:49 | |
-..Hallingbury Hall Equestrian Centre -on her sweatshirt. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:53 | |
-Police are keen to talk to anyone -who saw Mrs Simm... | 0:08:53 | 0:08:56 | |
-..or her car last Thursday. | 0:08:56 | 0:08:59 | |
-A poster campaign was launched -to appeal for information. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:06 | |
-While the detectives were looking -for witnesses... | 0:09:16 | 0:09:20 | |
-..more evidence was forthcoming -from the pathologist. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:24 | |
-Jane Simm had suffered internal -and external injuries... | 0:09:24 | 0:09:28 | |
-..including a fractured skull, after -being beaten with a heavy weapon. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:33 | |
-But, although her body had been -found in the car half naked... | 0:09:33 | 0:09:37 | |
-..there was no evidence -of a sexual assault. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:40 | |
-They now suspected that someone had -deliberately undressed her. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:45 | |
-It looked like it had been staged, -from very early on. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:49 | |
-Neither was there any evidence that -Jane had left the farm that day. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:55 | |
-Although her husband said that -she'd gone shopping in Cardiff. | 0:09:56 | 0:10:00 | |
-It was very difficult to believe. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:07 | |
-It wasn't something she usually did. | 0:10:08 | 0:10:10 | |
-She hardly ever left her home. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:13 | |
-She loved looking after her horses. -She didn't go shopping very often. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:18 | |
-At the start, we didn't believe it. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:21 | |
-The biggest challenge was to try -and prove it. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:24 | |
-They began to question -her husband's story. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:27 | |
-Detectives suspected that the answer -lay closer to home. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:31 | |
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-In June, 1990... | 0:10:55 | 0:10:56 | |
-..after Jane Simm's body was -discovered in Carmarthenshire... | 0:10:56 | 0:11:01 | |
-..the police were desperately -searching for her killer. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:06 | |
-Detectives decided to look more -closely at the married couple... | 0:11:08 | 0:11:12 | |
-..and delve into their backgrounds. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:15 | |
-Jane and Alan Simm married -in May 1989... | 0:11:15 | 0:11:18 | |
-..in the village of Sawbridgeworth -in Hertfordshire. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:22 | |
-She was extremely happy. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:24 | |
-She thought the world -of her husband. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:28 | |
-Three weeks before Jane's -disappearance... | 0:11:30 | 0:11:33 | |
-..the couple had celebrated their -first wedding anniversary... | 0:11:33 | 0:11:38 | |
-..at the Fox and Hounds pub -in Bancyfelin. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:42 | |
-Dr and Mrs Simm came in for a meal -one Friday evening. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:45 | |
-Dr Simm asked to book a table -for the Sunday evening. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:49 | |
-It was their anniversary. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:51 | |
-He specifically wanted a table in -the corner, quite a romantic table. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:56 | |
-He was most insistent -on having that table. | 0:11:56 | 0:11:59 | |
-Julie Davies still remembers that -bank holiday evening... | 0:12:02 | 0:12:06 | |
-..and the booking of a specific -table by the fire. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:09 | |
-It was a Saturday. It was going to -be a very busy evening for us. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:14 | |
-It was a table that sat six... | 0:12:14 | 0:12:16 | |
-..so my husband was a bit reluctant -to give up this table... | 0:12:17 | 0:12:20 | |
-..for just two people -for the whole evening. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:24 | |
-But Dr Simm was so adamant -that he wanted that table... | 0:12:24 | 0:12:28 | |
-..and he was prepared -to pay extra for it. | 0:12:28 | 0:12:32 | |
-In the end, they were regular -customers... | 0:12:32 | 0:12:35 | |
-..so Mike gave them the table -for the evening. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:38 | |
-We didn't know who had murdered her. -It could have been anybody. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:45 | |
-It was quite scary. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:47 | |
-People were quite nervous -and shocked... | 0:12:47 | 0:12:50 | |
-..that something like that -could happen... | 0:12:50 | 0:12:54 | |
-..in our sleepy little Bancyfelin, -our lovely little community. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:59 | |
-Dr Alan Simm offered Biology lessons -from home. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:05 | |
-On the day of his wife's -disappearance... | 0:13:05 | 0:13:08 | |
-..three school pupils had been there -for hours for a practical tutorial. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:13 | |
-To the detectives, -they were now witnesses. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:17 | |
-He was a very knowledgeable person. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:21 | |
-He was quite formal. Perhaps not -a person you'd share a joke with. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:26 | |
-He could be quite intense at times. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:29 | |
-I knew that he wanted me -to do well in my exams. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:34 | |
-He was always pushing me -to work hard... | 0:13:36 | 0:13:40 | |
-..to make sure I did well. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:42 | |
-That morning, -Dr Simm had telephoned Eurgain... | 0:13:44 | 0:13:48 | |
-..to ask her to come over later than -they had originally arranged. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:52 | |
-When she arrived, there was nothing -out of place at the farm... | 0:13:52 | 0:13:56 | |
-..and her tutor appeared as usual. | 0:13:56 | 0:13:59 | |
-But, he disappeared for a while -at lunchtime. | 0:13:59 | 0:14:02 | |
-He went to make us a glass -of squash. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:11 | |
-We thought he'd just gone -to the house to make it... | 0:14:11 | 0:14:15 | |
-..and he'd be back -in about five minutes... | 0:14:15 | 0:14:18 | |
-..but I remember that he was gone -for quite a long time. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:21 | |
-We wondered what he was doing. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:23 | |
-Detectives began to suspect -the husband's story. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:28 | |
-As they probed further... | 0:14:31 | 0:14:32 | |
-..the came across something they -thought was a motive for murder. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:37 | |
-After investigating the couple's -financial affairs... | 0:14:41 | 0:14:44 | |
-..detectives discovered -that they had large debts... | 0:14:44 | 0:14:48 | |
-..and that Jane Simm had a life -insurance policy worth 100,000. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:52 | |
-When they conducted a detailed -examination of the house... | 0:14:53 | 0:14:57 | |
-..they discovered suspicious notes -in Alan Simm's handwriting. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:02 | |
-It was written in code. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:03 | |
-It seemed to be arrangements -for giving her drugs. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:09 | |
-The notes included the words -'the final plan'. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:14 | |
-It also included the letters JDCD. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:19 | |
-Police believed that it may have -stood for Jane Deceased. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:23 | |
-There was a reference to -an anaesthetic drug called ether... | 0:15:25 | 0:15:28 | |
-..and the symbol for the chemical, -potassium chloride, KCL. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:33 | |
-The detectives were confident... | 0:15:33 | 0:15:35 | |
-..that this showed that Alan Simm -had planned to kill his wife. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:39 | |
-In addition, we found clothes -and other things... | 0:15:40 | 0:15:45 | |
-..that had been burned -in the garden. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:47 | |
-On the clothes that had been burned, -we found blood. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:51 | |
-We were focusing more and more -on the possibility... | 0:15:51 | 0:15:55 | |
-..that her husband was part of it. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:58 | |
-On June 27, six days after Jane Simm -was found... | 0:15:59 | 0:16:03 | |
-..her husband was arrested -and charged with her murder. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:07 | |
-A crowd of about 300 people gathered -in the main square in Carmarthen... | 0:16:13 | 0:16:18 | |
-..to see Dr Alan Simm, -a bearded man with glasses... | 0:16:18 | 0:16:21 | |
-..arrive in handcuffs -at the court hearing. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:24 | |
-He denied killing his wife. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:29 | |
-But, on his way to court -one morning... | 0:16:30 | 0:16:33 | |
-..Dr Simm made -an astounding confession... | 0:16:33 | 0:16:36 | |
-..to the warden escorting him there. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:39 | |
-The warden asked him -what he had done. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:42 | |
-He said he'd killed his wife, but -that the police didn't know that... | 0:16:42 | 0:16:46 | |
-..and that they weren't going -to find out... | 0:16:46 | 0:16:49 | |
-..because they didn't have -enough evidence. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:52 | |
-I think he thought that the warden -wouldn't say anything to the police. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:57 | |
-But the confession -became key evidence... | 0:16:57 | 0:17:00 | |
-..when the trial began in May 1991. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:03 | |
-Alan Simm pleaded not guilty to -murder, but guilty to manslaughter. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:12 | |
-He told the court... | 0:17:12 | 0:17:14 | |
-..that his relationship -with his wife was under pressure... | 0:17:14 | 0:17:18 | |
-..and that he'd lost control that -morning after a blazing row. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:22 | |
-He'd struck her head -against a stone wall. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:24 | |
-During his three days in the dock... | 0:17:28 | 0:17:30 | |
-..Alan Simm said he was at the end -of his tether with the marriage... | 0:17:30 | 0:17:34 | |
-..and that he'd intended to leave -his wife that day... | 0:17:35 | 0:17:38 | |
-..to start a new life. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:40 | |
-He insisted that her death -was an accident. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:48 | |
-But the prosecution argued -that his wife's injuries... | 0:17:52 | 0:17:56 | |
-..proved that it was his clear -intention to kill her. | 0:17:56 | 0:17:59 | |
-If he'd hit her once -and she'd fallen... | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
-..that's possible -in the heat of the moment. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:09 | |
-But he carried on. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:11 | |
-He could have called the police -and told them... | 0:18:13 | 0:18:16 | |
-..that he'd rowed with his wife, -that he'd hit her and she'd died. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:20 | |
-That he hadn't meant to do it. -But that wasn't what he did. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:24 | |
-The prosecution also alleged that -he'd had a plan to kill her... | 0:18:29 | 0:18:33 | |
-..before that morning. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:35 | |
-He was questioned about the notes -that had been found in his house... | 0:18:36 | 0:18:40 | |
-..referring to the chemicals, -ether and potassium chloride. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:45 | |
-Simm admitted that he'd intended -drugging his wife... | 0:18:50 | 0:18:54 | |
-..in order to stop her heart, -as his notes showed. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
-But, although he had the chemicals -ready in his laboratory... | 0:18:57 | 0:19:02 | |
-..he changed his mind. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:03 | |
-These were his words to the court. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:06 | |
-"I was shocked and confused -that I couldn't do it." | 0:19:06 | 0:19:09 | |
-"I hadn't been expecting that." | 0:19:09 | 0:19:12 | |
-After hearing eight days -of evidence... | 0:19:18 | 0:19:21 | |
-..the jury had to make a decision. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:24 | |
-Was this manslaughter or murder? | 0:19:27 | 0:19:31 | |
-The jury delivered its verdict. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:41 | |
-It was unanimous. | 0:19:41 | 0:19:43 | |
-They had decided that Alan Simm was -guilty of murdering his wife... | 0:19:43 | 0:19:48 | |
-..and the judge jailed him for life. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:50 | |
-The murder of Jane Simm shook the -people in the neighbouring villages. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:14 | |
-It was a terrible shock. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:21 | |
-To think that people didn't know -what had been going on. | 0:20:22 | 0:20:26 | |
-Then to find out that she'd been -murdered by her own husband! | 0:20:26 | 0:20:30 | |
-An intelligent, knowledgeable man -like Dr Simm. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:34 | |
-He was a very able man. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:37 | |
-It was quite a shock. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:39 | |
-The landlord of the village pub -was also in shock. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:44 | |
-He felt that Alan Simm had deceived -him the whole time. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:49 | |
-We were a bit shell-shocked -and upset... | 0:20:49 | 0:20:53 | |
-..to think that we'd been part -of his charade. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:57 | |
-Part of this front -that he was portraying... | 0:20:59 | 0:21:02 | |
-..of being the wonderful, -loyal, devoted husband. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:05 | |
-And that we'd been taken in by that. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:10 | |
-As a 17-year-old pupil, Eurgain had -been having a lesson at Brynderi... | 0:21:13 | 0:21:18 | |
-..hours after Dr Simm murdered -his wife. | 0:21:19 | 0:21:21 | |
-She may even have been there while -he was getting rid of the evidence. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:27 | |
-It didn't sink in at the time, -what exactly had happened. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:32 | |
-I couldn't quite work out... | 0:21:34 | 0:21:36 | |
-..how someone like that -could have done such a thing. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:42 | |
-On the outside, the couple's life -seemed perfect. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:51 | |
-But there was a hidden side -to their relationship. | 0:21:52 | 0:21:55 | |
-According to detectives... | 0:21:57 | 0:21:59 | |
-..the majority of murders take place -within a marriage or relationship. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:04 | |
-It's very unusual -to have a murder... | 0:22:10 | 0:22:12 | |
-..between people -who don't know each other. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:15 | |
-At the start of an investigation... | 0:22:15 | 0:22:18 | |
-..you have to look carefully at the -people closest to the murder victim. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:23 | |
-Dr Alan Simm was an able man. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:26 | |
-He thought that he could hide -his diabolical crime. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:30 | |
-The way he'd hidden the body, -moved the car... | 0:22:32 | 0:22:35 | |
-..and the story he'd given out -about her going to Cardiff. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:39 | |
-But, bit by bit, Dyfed Powys -detectives unpicked his plan... | 0:22:42 | 0:22:47 | |
-..and revealed the truth. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:50 | |
-S4C Subtitles by Testun Cyf. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:18 | |
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