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-Secrets... | 0:00:07 | 0:00:10 | |
-..lies... | 0:00:10 | 0:00:12 | |
-..deceit... | 0:00:12 | 0:00:13 | |
-..violence. | 0:00:14 | 0:00:15 | |
-Every criminal case is a distinct -challenge for the detective. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:21 | |
-To discover the truth, -they need patience and curiosity. | 0:00:24 | 0:00:29 | |
-Tonight, North Wales Police open -the doors of a special unit... | 0:00:39 | 0:00:43 | |
-..that targets offenders who abuse -and corrupt children online. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:48 | |
-We arrest them at every opportunity -and put them in prison. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:52 | |
-We'll learn how one covert -investigation caught a London man... | 0:00:55 | 0:00:59 | |
-..who was on his way to North Wales -to meet a thirteen-year-old girl. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:03 | |
-We watched him drive down the A55. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:06 | |
-And how did they catch a North Wales -offender who was paying... | 0:01:07 | 0:01:11 | |
-..to watch boys -being sexually abused... | 0:01:11 | 0:01:14 | |
-..on the other side of the world? | 0:01:15 | 0:01:17 | |
-We're talking about children being -raped in the Philippines... | 0:01:18 | 0:01:22 | |
-..while he's sitting in his bedroom -livestreaming it. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:26 | |
-Cases of online child sex abuse -are on the rise in Britain. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:57 | |
-Catching sex abusers who target -and exploit children online... | 0:01:57 | 0:02:01 | |
-..is a huge challenge -for the police. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:04 | |
-In St Asaph, North Wales Police have -a special unit called POLIT. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:25 | |
-It carries out investigations -to catch sex offenders. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:30 | |
-It was set up in October 2015... | 0:02:32 | 0:02:34 | |
-..because of the rise in offences. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:37 | |
-It was important for us, as a force, -to bring our skills together... | 0:02:37 | 0:02:42 | |
-..so that we could deal -with these new cases. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:45 | |
-We have experts with skills -in digital forensics... | 0:02:46 | 0:02:49 | |
-..and also researchers -with a detective background. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:53 | |
-We also have a team specialising -in cyber crime. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:57 | |
-It's a newly established team. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:00 | |
-One of the first things they do -with a suspect... | 0:03:01 | 0:03:04 | |
-..is examine any digital devices -in their possession. | 0:03:05 | 0:03:08 | |
-On this side, we have people -examining mobile phones and tablets. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:16 | |
-This work is increasing too. They've -replaced desktops and laptops. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:21 | |
-This is where the work starts. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:25 | |
-The jobs comes into the unit here... | 0:03:25 | 0:03:28 | |
-..and the technical people strip -down laptops and computers. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:32 | |
-With the rise in Internet use, -the team face an enormous challenge. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:37 | |
-The rise in the use of social media -has brought new dangers... | 0:03:37 | 0:03:41 | |
-..especially for children. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:43 | |
-We can't afford to not understand -the Internet anymore. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:48 | |
-We all have to understand it and -know what we're doing with it. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:52 | |
-If you give a 12-year-old -a new phone... | 0:03:53 | 0:03:55 | |
-..you have to know what apps -they're going to use. | 0:03:56 | 0:03:59 | |
-It's important that parents and -families understand the threat... | 0:04:00 | 0:04:04 | |
-..so that they can avoid -becoming victims. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:10 | |
-Tonight, the team shares -a recent case file with us. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:30 | |
-In August 2016, a London man began -communicating online... | 0:04:31 | 0:04:36 | |
-..with a thirteen-year-old girl -from North Wales. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:42 | |
-The man's name was James Shand. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:45 | |
-The pair began chatting via an app -called Kik Messenger. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:51 | |
-The girl made it very clear -that she was thirteen years old. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:55 | |
-But he wasn't as honest with her. | 0:04:56 | 0:04:58 | |
-On his Facebook profile, he called -himself a dynamic boy... | 0:05:01 | 0:05:05 | |
-..and said that he was 23 years old. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:08 | |
-But James Shand was really -30 years old. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:11 | |
-They chatted online and by telephone -for about a month. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:19 | |
-The language was sexual. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:23 | |
-He sent her sexy pictures -of himself. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:27 | |
-He was talking about the future, -saying that he wanted to marry her. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:33 | |
-It was very worrying, really. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:38 | |
-The detectives -have shared his messages with us. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:45 | |
-In one chat, they discuss meeting up -and where they should go to eat. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:56 | |
-But other comments by Shand suggest -that he had a more sinister aim. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:06 | |
-The girl tells him -that she's never had sex... | 0:06:16 | 0:06:20 | |
-..and that she isn't ready -to have babies yet. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:23 | |
-James Shand arranges a date -to meet her in Rhyl. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:32 | |
-He books a hotel room -near Liverpool. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:36 | |
-He'd booked a room in a hotel... | 0:06:38 | 0:06:41 | |
-..in Warrington with a double bed. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:45 | |
-He sent her a picture -of the booking... | 0:06:45 | 0:06:50 | |
-..via Kik Messenger to confirm -that he'd booked it. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:56 | |
-She replies that she is afraid of -what might happen at the hotel. | 0:06:57 | 0:07:01 | |
-He tries to persuade her to go -to the hotel... | 0:07:08 | 0:07:11 | |
-..and promises her rose petals -and chocolate. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:15 | |
-September 10 is the big day. | 0:07:21 | 0:07:23 | |
-That morning, detectives monitor -his online messages. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:29 | |
-We knew when he was coming. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:36 | |
-He'd sent a picture of his car. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:41 | |
-We knew -exactly what he'd be driving. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:43 | |
-So we decided to lie in wait -for him. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:47 | |
-On Saturday morning... | 0:07:53 | 0:07:54 | |
-..the police heard that his car had -left London just before 7.00am. | 0:07:54 | 0:07:59 | |
-Then at 10.45, the car was seen -arriving in North Wales. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:03 | |
-James Shand was here on the A55 -travelling in the direction of Rhyl. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:09 | |
-We received confirmation that -James Shand was on his way. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:16 | |
-He sent a picture of himself -at a service station to the girl... | 0:08:18 | 0:08:22 | |
-..to say that he was on his way. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:24 | |
-We watched him drive down the A55. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:27 | |
-It was very exciting to know -that he was coming. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:33 | |
-We saw him on the cameras. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:35 | |
-The team were in two cars. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:38 | |
-One was a traffic vehicle... | 0:08:38 | 0:08:40 | |
-..waiting for him under a bridge -on the A55. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:45 | |
-This vehicle followed him -and stopped him in St Asaph. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:49 | |
-The team arrest James Shand and take -him into custody in St Asaph. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:56 | |
-He was in shock. -He certainly hadn't expected this. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:07 | |
-He didn't get the weekend -he'd been expecting. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:12 | |
-While in custody, he asked -detectives to contact the girl... | 0:09:14 | 0:09:19 | |
-..in case she was waiting for him. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:21 | |
-But the detectives have a secret -to share with him. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:25 | |
-The girl was an undercover officer. -There was no 13-year-old girl. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:31 | |
-It had been the undercover officer -from the beginning. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:35 | |
-They had succeeded in deceiving him. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:39 | |
-The 13-year-old girl -was a TITAN detective... | 0:09:40 | 0:09:43 | |
-..a specialist from the North West -Regional Organised Crime Unit. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:47 | |
-He clapped his hands and said, -"Well done!" | 0:09:47 | 0:09:51 | |
-James Shand admitted that he'd -travelled to North Wales... | 0:09:58 | 0:10:02 | |
-..with the intention of meeting -the girl in Rhyl. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:06 | |
-He said that he'd intended taking -her to Liverpool for the day. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:10 | |
-He denied meeting her -for sexual purposes. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:13 | |
-He said that he didn't remember -sending any pictures... | 0:10:13 | 0:10:17 | |
-..or comments of a sexual nature -to the child. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:20 | |
-But the detectives had a record -of all his messages. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:26 | |
-His journey to North Wales -and his hotel booking were proof... | 0:10:27 | 0:10:31 | |
-..that he'd intended to -realize his fantasy. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:34 | |
-He could have said that he would -never have driven to North Wales... | 0:10:34 | 0:10:38 | |
-..and that the whole thing -was a fantasy. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:41 | |
-He would never have gone. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:43 | |
-But, of course, the reason -we allowed him to travel... | 0:10:43 | 0:10:47 | |
-..was so that we could prove that -he was serious about this... | 0:10:47 | 0:10:51 | |
-..and that he was prepared to meet -this girl and take her to a hotel. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:57 | |
-James Shand pleaded guilty... | 0:10:58 | 0:11:00 | |
-..to the charge of communicating -with a child under the age of 16... | 0:11:00 | 0:11:05 | |
-..with the intention -of committing a sexual act. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:09 | |
-In November 2016, -at Mold Crown Court... | 0:11:09 | 0:11:12 | |
-..he was sentenced to 21 months -in prison... | 0:11:12 | 0:11:16 | |
-..and placed on the Sex Offenders' -Register for ten years. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:20 | |
-Although -there was no 13-year-old girl... | 0:11:22 | 0:11:25 | |
-..there so easily could have been. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:27 | |
-Unfortunately, there are cases -where children of that age... | 0:11:27 | 0:11:32 | |
-..are online and communicating -with people... | 0:11:32 | 0:11:36 | |
-..and this can have -serious consequences. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:39 | |
-It's very satisfying to have -arrested someone like that... | 0:11:40 | 0:11:44 | |
-.. and put him in prison, because it -could have been a real child. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:49 | |
-Usually, the team are dealing with -real children who are being abused. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:57 | |
-In Part Two, I hear how they caught -one man who paid to watch... | 0:11:57 | 0:12:02 | |
-..children being raped -on the other side of the world... | 0:12:03 | 0:12:06 | |
-..from his home -on the North Wales coast. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:09 | |
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-Every day... | 0:12:25 | 0:12:26 | |
-..North Wales Police Paedophile -On-line Investigation Team... | 0:12:26 | 0:12:30 | |
-..investigate cases -of online child abuse. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:33 | |
-Within the team, there are experts -that extract hidden data... | 0:12:37 | 0:12:42 | |
-..from all the data they receive. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:45 | |
-This is where our digital forensics -team is based. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:52 | |
-This is where the team undertake -the work of unpicking the data. | 0:12:55 | 0:13:00 | |
-Then the enquiry continues -from there. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:03 | |
-The team use the latest techniques -to catch the most cunning offenders. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:10 | |
-It's a huge challenge. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:14 | |
-Online offending is changing -every day. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:17 | |
-It's important that we stay -one step ahead... | 0:13:17 | 0:13:20 | |
-..and that we understand -how offences are committed. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:24 | |
-In a recent case, the offender -was on the unit's doorstep. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:29 | |
-In 2012, -the National Crime Agency... | 0:13:38 | 0:13:43 | |
-..began an international -investigation into online abuse... | 0:13:43 | 0:13:47 | |
-..after receiving an anonymous -tip-off from South East Asia. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:51 | |
-There was an operation -in the Philippines... | 0:13:51 | 0:13:54 | |
-..where a subject was identified -out there who was a gang leader. | 0:13:54 | 0:14:00 | |
-He was using children -in order to obtain cash... | 0:14:00 | 0:14:05 | |
-..from people -throughout the world... | 0:14:05 | 0:14:07 | |
-..who were paying for the services -of the children online. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:11 | |
-In November 2014, North Wales Police -received information... | 0:14:13 | 0:14:18 | |
-..that one of those making payments -lived in their area. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:21 | |
-The name of the person -was Lee Roberts. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:27 | |
-He had been making electronic -payments online... | 0:14:27 | 0:14:30 | |
-..through the Western Union bank. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:33 | |
-The payments were sent -to individuals in the Philippines. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:41 | |
-In March 2013, he made his first -payment of 50. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:49 | |
-The payments continued monthly. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:52 | |
-77 payments in all. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:56 | |
-Until the final one -in October 2014 of 14. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:03 | |
-But they needed more evidence. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:09 | |
-Why was 32-year-old Lee Roberts -from Kinmel Bay... | 0:15:15 | 0:15:19 | |
-..making these payments and to whom? | 0:15:19 | 0:15:22 | |
-On November 26, 2014... | 0:15:26 | 0:15:28 | |
-..Lee Roberts was arrested -at his home in Kinmel Bay. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:32 | |
-Police took away all his computers -and mobile phones for examination. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:37 | |
-He answered the door readily enough. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:42 | |
-We went in and arrested him. -His parents were there. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:45 | |
-We seized his computers -and mobile phones. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:49 | |
-We took everything with us -back to St Asaph. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:52 | |
-When he was arrested, -there was no emotion shown. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:56 | |
-His caution reply was something like -he'd only done it the once... | 0:15:57 | 0:16:01 | |
-..whereas, obviously, -when we examined the computers... | 0:16:01 | 0:16:05 | |
-..we were able to show that he was -quite a prolific offender. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:09 | |
-At his parents' home -in Kinmel Bay... | 0:16:13 | 0:16:16 | |
-..he'd downloaded thousands of -images and dozens of videos... | 0:16:16 | 0:16:20 | |
-..including indecent images of boys -between the ages of 6 and 15. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:24 | |
-The images consist of various -levels, if you like. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:30 | |
-How much money he'd paid... | 0:16:30 | 0:16:32 | |
-..would determine how much abuse -these individuals would undertake. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:37 | |
-It was a range of sexual abuse -culminating in rape. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:40 | |
-On his computer, these pictures -show a room in the Philippines... | 0:16:40 | 0:16:45 | |
-..full of computers -and young children chatting. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:50 | |
-Detectives discovered that -Lee Roberts was paying more... | 0:16:50 | 0:16:55 | |
-..to see the children -in a private room. | 0:16:55 | 0:16:58 | |
-This is where the worst -sexual abuse happened. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:02 | |
-He directed the children to perform -sexual acts on each other via Skype. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:13 | |
-Most of the evidence is too horrific -to show on television. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:19 | |
-We're talking about children... | 0:17:41 | 0:17:44 | |
-..young boys aged 6 to 15 -years old... | 0:17:44 | 0:17:48 | |
-..being raped in the Philippines... | 0:17:48 | 0:17:51 | |
-..while he's sitting in his bedroom -in Kinmel Bay livestreaming it. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:57 | |
-The pictures found on the computer -were in the worst abuse category. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:18 | |
-The evidence affected the team. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:22 | |
-I was talking to the analysts -who went through the Skype chats. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:37 | |
-They could see that these children -were being abused... | 0:18:37 | 0:18:41 | |
-..while Lee Roberts -was paying for it. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:46 | |
-This had a big impact on the -analysts and on the investigators. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:51 | |
-It is a disturbing case. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:56 | |
-When you see these images... | 0:18:56 | 0:18:58 | |
-..you just have to deal with it -in a professional manner... | 0:18:58 | 0:19:02 | |
-..and try and move on. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:04 | |
-We have so many of these -types of jobs. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:06 | |
-I wouldn't say you get used to it, -but you get hardened to it. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:09 | |
-It is shocking. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:11 | |
-We offer welfare counselling -to all staff. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:15 | |
-There is welfare screening -every six months for staff. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:19 | |
-We see horrific pictures and videos. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:25 | |
-But we don't just see them, -we have to listen to things as well. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:29 | |
-One of the things that staff -find most difficult... | 0:19:30 | 0:19:33 | |
-..is listening to the videos -and the sounds of the children. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:37 | |
-The images on Lee Roberts' computer -were horrific. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:50 | |
-But there was more evidence -to uncover. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:54 | |
-He would capture a video -that he was filming on Skype... | 0:19:56 | 0:20:00 | |
-..where he was asking these children -to abuse themselves for cash. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:04 | |
-He would video that... | 0:20:04 | 0:20:06 | |
-..but he would also then -distribute it to others. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:10 | |
-So, then, you've got images -of those children... | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
-..being distributed worldwide -at the touch of a button. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:18 | |
-Lee Roberts was charged with -possessing and distributing... | 0:20:18 | 0:20:22 | |
-..indecent images of children. | 0:20:22 | 0:20:25 | |
-He was also charged with encouraging -children to commit sexual acts. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:29 | |
-During his interview, Lee Roberts -admitted the charges against him. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:34 | |
-He said that he was lonely, gay and -had made friends on social media... | 0:20:35 | 0:20:39 | |
-..before encouraging them -to commit sexual acts. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:43 | |
-He said that he had stopped -doing it. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:45 | |
-He knew it was wrong -and that he had broken the law. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:50 | |
-At Mold Crown Court, -he pleaded guilty. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:56 | |
-In March 2016, he was sentenced -to six years in prison. | 0:20:57 | 0:21:03 | |
-He'll be on the Sex Offenders' -Register for life. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:07 | |
-I was pleased that we were able to -protect children in the Philippines. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:14 | |
-But also, we've made sure that -children in North Wales are safe. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:19 | |
-The team has shared information -with police from across the world. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:24 | |
-This has led to another sex offender -being charged in Germany. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:29 | |
-The gang leader in the Philippines -has been caught. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:32 | |
-But there is little information -about the children's welfare. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:37 | |
-The investigation into this -international network continues. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:41 | |
-It's been a never-ending circle -of sharing intelligence... | 0:21:42 | 0:21:45 | |
-..from one investigation -to another. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:48 | |
-The investigation grows... | 0:21:48 | 0:21:50 | |
-..and identifies various -offenders throughout the world. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:54 | |
-It was the start of an investigation -that has now become worldwide. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:59 | |
-In this case, -although the boys being abused... | 0:22:01 | 0:22:05 | |
-..were from the Philippines... | 0:22:06 | 0:22:08 | |
-..it was a Welshman who was -organising and encouraging them... | 0:22:08 | 0:22:12 | |
-..from his home, -here in North Wales. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:14 | |
-Cases of sharing indecent images -are extremely common. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:25 | |
-The task of catching the offenders -is a huge one for the police. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:29 | |
-But always on the minds -of the detectives... | 0:22:32 | 0:22:34 | |
-..are the children who are being -abused and scarred for life. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:39 | |
-Regardless of whether they're live -images or still pictures... | 0:22:43 | 0:22:47 | |
-..that they're viewing, there are -victims at the end of these crimes. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:52 | |
-There are a lot of people out there -who are targeting children... | 0:22:52 | 0:22:56 | |
-..via the Internet. | 0:22:56 | 0:22:58 | |
-We arrest them at every opportunity -and put them in prison. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:04 | |
-The threat is enormous. -To children and to the community. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:10 | |
-North Wales Police's aim -is to protect children. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:14 | |
-To make sure that children -and communities are safe. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:18 | |
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