Episode 8 ‹ Y Ditectif

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-My name's Mali Harries.	0:00:07	0:00:09
-I'm following the footsteps -of detectives past and present...	0:00:09	0:00:13
-..who've worked -on Wales' most sinister cases.	0:00:14	0:00:17
-Tonight I explore -two unusual cases...	0:00:21	0:00:24
-..where instinct was crucial -in catching the perpetrators.	0:00:24	0:00:28
-One was a minister who desecrated -bodies of the deceased in the '80s.	0:00:28	0:00:33
-And the other, a butcher -who slaughtered a woman's body...	0:00:35	0:00:39
-..after meeting her -in a Pontypridd pub.	0:00:40	0:00:43
-In 1984, -a very unusual criminal case...	0:01:12	0:01:15
-..was brought before -Chester Crown Court...	0:01:15	0:01:18
-..after a North Wales detective -uncovered a crime...	0:01:19	0:01:22
-..that shocked the entire nation.	0:01:22	0:01:25
-Threatening letters -were sent anonymously...	0:01:36	0:01:39
-..to people across North Wales.	0:01:39	0:01:41
-One letter was addressed to North -Wales' chief constable at the time.	0:01:42	0:01:46
-This is the threat that was -in one of the anonymous letters.	0:01:59	0:02:02
-"Someone -will settle the score with you...	0:02:02	0:02:05
-"..even if that means -seizing your children.	0:02:05	0:02:09
-"We'll get revenge and we'll get -you and your children, believe me."	0:02:09	0:02:14
-There was a Towyn postmark -on all the letters...	0:02:18	0:02:21
-..as well as other clues -in the handwriting.	0:02:22	0:02:25
-The handwriting was very similar...	0:02:26	0:02:29
-..to the handwriting of those...	0:02:29	0:02:31
-..born in the 1920s and 1930s.	0:02:32	0:02:36
-The handwritten letter T -was very different...	0:02:37	0:02:42
-..from anything I'd seen before.	0:02:43	0:02:45
-I concentrated on that.	0:02:45	0:02:47
-After studying -6,000 pieces of handwriting...	0:02:51	0:02:54
-..Gwyn Roberts went to Towyn -to visit one of the people...	0:02:54	0:02:57
-..mentioned in one of the letters.	0:02:57	0:03:00
-Initially, he denied -recognizing the handwriting.	0:03:00	0:03:04
-From the look in his eyes...	0:03:04	0:03:07
-..I suspected that he knew.	0:03:08	0:03:10
-I went from his house -to the police station.	0:03:10	0:03:14
-I was there for about 10 minutes...	0:03:14	0:03:16
-..when there was -a knock at the window.	0:03:17	0:03:20
-I was shown a copy -of the New Testament.	0:03:20	0:03:23
-When I opened the New Testament...	0:03:24	0:03:26
-..the handwriting inside -was exactly the same...	0:03:26	0:03:30
-..as that in the anonymous letters.	0:03:30	0:03:33
-At the bottom...	0:03:34	0:03:37
-..it had been signed by Emyr Owen.	0:03:38	0:03:41
-The Reverend Emyr Owen.	0:03:41	0:03:43
-Emyr Owen was a Methodist minister -at the Presbyterian chapel in Towyn.	0:03:47	0:03:52
-Having been ordained in 1952...	0:03:57	0:03:59
-..he spent some of his ministry -in Coventry and Liverpool.	0:03:59	0:04:03
-In 1976 -he moved to Bethel Chapel in Towyn.	0:04:05	0:04:10
-In December 1984...	0:04:13	0:04:15
-..Gwyn Roberts visited Emyr Owen...	0:04:15	0:04:17
-..to question him -about the threatening letters.	0:04:18	0:04:21
-The house where Emyr Owen lived -is here on the right.	0:04:21	0:04:26
-When he walked into -the living room...	0:04:26	0:04:29
-..he found clear evidence -on the table in front of him.	0:04:29	0:04:33
-There were dozens of Christmas cards -on the table...	0:04:35	0:04:39
-..and all the envelopes -had addresses on them.	0:04:40	0:04:43
-The handwritten letter T -was the same.	0:04:43	0:04:47
-Emyr Owen initially denied -writing the letters...	0:04:48	0:04:52
-..before confessing the truth.	0:04:52	0:04:54
-His knees were knocking.	0:04:54	0:04:57
-He was looking down at his feet.	0:04:57	0:05:00
-He said, -"I don't know what came over me."	0:05:00	0:05:04
-But the detective suspected -there was more to his story.	0:05:04	0:05:08
-I had a strange feeling about him.	0:05:09	0:05:12
-You could call it a sixth sense. -I knew something was wrong.	0:05:12	0:05:16
-With the minister still present...	0:05:20	0:05:23
-..he searched the house and study -for more evidence.	0:05:23	0:05:27
-He found adult magazines...	0:05:27	0:05:30
-..and pornographic books on a shelf.	0:05:30	0:05:33
-I asked him -if he'd done anything else.	0:05:36	0:05:39
-He said, "No."	0:05:39	0:05:41
-I started to -take these books off the shelf.	0:05:41	0:05:45
-Behind them -were photographic slides.	0:05:45	0:05:49
-What I saw...	0:05:54	0:05:56
-..was a man's sexual organ -on a plate.	0:05:56	0:06:00
-Emyr Owen claimed they were -post-mortem photographs...	0:06:02	0:06:06
-..before making -the shocking confession...	0:06:06	0:06:09
-..that he'd severed the sexual -organs from the bodies of men...	0:06:09	0:06:13
-..who lived in his community.	0:06:13	0:06:15
-The details were hard to comprehend.	0:06:15	0:06:18
-Owen removed their sexual organs -in the chapel before their burial.	0:06:18	0:06:23
-He injected them with boiling water -and placed them on a plate.	0:06:23	0:06:27
-He then took photographs -and recorded his own commentary.	0:06:27	0:06:31
-Detectives found a tape of his -recordings in a box at his house.	0:06:49	0:06:54
-They also found cord, -a knife and a syringe inside.	0:06:54	0:06:58
-I didn't -expect to find such things...	0:07:02	0:07:05
-..at the home -of a minister of the cloth.	0:07:05	0:07:09
-The Reverend Emyr Owen stood trial -at Chester Crown Court...	0:07:14	0:07:18
-..accused of desecrating -three bodies in his care.	0:07:19	0:07:22
-In the trial, Emyr Owen confessed...	0:07:26	0:07:28
-..there were two sides -to his personality.	0:07:29	0:07:31
-The good Emyr, who was revered...	0:07:32	0:07:34
-..and the bad Emyr, -over whom he had no control.	0:07:34	0:07:37
-He told me -he was glad he'd been caught.	0:07:46	0:07:50
-He told me the bad Emyr had gone...	0:07:50	0:07:55
-..and no-one -would hear from him again.	0:07:56	0:07:58
-Emyr Owen was sentenced -to two and a half years in prison...	0:08:03	0:08:06
-..for desecrating -the bodies of the deceased...	0:08:07	0:08:09
-..and 18 months -for sending threatening letters.	0:08:10	0:08:13
-Though the truth about him -was made public...	0:08:14	0:08:16
-..some members of the Presbyterian -community still defended him.	0:08:17	0:08:21
-While some defended him, -other families wanted to know...	0:08:23	0:08:27
-..which bodies had been in his care.	0:08:28	0:08:31
-Upon his release from prison...	0:08:31	0:08:34
-..Emyr Owen -went to live in Llandudno.	0:08:35	0:08:38
-He agreed to a television -interview about his crimes.	0:08:39	0:08:42
-One of the questions -I had to ask Emyr was why?	0:08:47	0:08:51
-It was as simple as that -and as complicated as that.	0:08:51	0:08:54
-Put very simply...	0:08:55	0:08:57
-..this was his justification.	0:08:57	0:09:00
-It's better for a man to meet his -maker without this particular organ.	0:09:00	0:09:07
-This is what caused marriages -to fail and what led to infidelity.	0:09:10	0:09:15
-I truly believed that.	0:09:15	0:09:17
-I battled against the idea -but I believed in it.	0:09:17	0:09:21
-The only way to make that clear...	0:09:22	0:09:26
-..was to get my revenge...	0:09:26	0:09:29
-..on the sexual organs.	0:09:29	0:09:31
-Why on earth did you -record running commentary on tape?	0:09:31	0:09:36
-Why did you take a photograph -of yourself with the bodies?	0:09:36	0:09:40
-Isn't that the actions of a man -who derives sexual gratification...	0:09:40	0:09:45
-..from such butchering?	0:09:45	0:09:47
-I didn't take photographs -of myself with the bodies.	0:09:47	0:09:50
-There are none of me with a body.	0:09:51	0:09:54
-All the photographs -are of sexual organs.	0:09:54	0:09:57
-I'd watch them at home -on the screen.	0:09:57	0:10:01
-Believe it or not, I'd curse them.	0:10:01	0:10:05
-Some years later, another anonymous -letter in the same handwriting...	0:10:07	0:10:12
-..was sent to a woman in Colwyn Bay.	0:10:13	0:10:15
-She wasn't the only one -to receive threats.	0:10:15	0:10:18
-Emyr Owen claimed...	0:10:20	0:10:23
-..that the bad Emyr -had gone for good...	0:10:23	0:10:26
-..leaving only the good Emyr behind.	0:10:27	0:10:31
-That wasn't true.	0:10:31	0:10:33
-In my case, -after the programme was broadcast...	0:10:33	0:10:37
-..he started phoning my house...	0:10:38	0:10:40
-..and making threats.	0:10:41	0:10:43
-Our daughter -was 12 or 13 years old at the time.	0:10:43	0:10:46
-It wasn't very nice.	0:10:46	0:10:49
-The Reverend Emyr Owen died in 1991.	0:10:53	0:10:57
-He confessed to throwing -one of the organs into the sea...	0:10:58	0:11:02
-..and feeding another -to a seagull on Towyn beach.	0:11:03	0:11:06
-Some suspect we haven't heard the -full extent of Emyr Owen's actions.	0:11:06	0:11:11
-Looking back over the years...	0:11:15	0:11:18
-..I'm incredibly glad -we caught him...	0:11:18	0:11:21
-..before he did something worse.	0:11:21	0:11:23
-We'll never know -the true extent of his crimes.	0:11:26	0:11:30
-He took those secrets to the grave.	0:11:30	0:11:32
-Instinct and perseverance uncovered -Emyr Owen's unexpected crimes.	0:11:39	0:11:45
-Decades later, -for detectives in South Wales...	0:11:45	0:11:48
-..shock and horror -was on the horizon.	0:11:49	0:11:52
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-The University of South Wales -in Pontypridd.	0:12:02	0:12:05
-Here at Crime Scene House, -forensics students learn...	0:12:06	0:12:11
-..how to gather evidence -following a crime.	0:12:11	0:12:14
-Hi, Mark. I'm Mali Harries.	0:12:15	0:12:16
-Hi, Mark. I'm Mali Harries. - -Would you like to put these on?	0:12:16	0:12:18
-Could you explain -the importance of these blues?	0:12:18	0:12:22
-It protects the scene from you, -makes sure you don't leave evidence.	0:12:22	0:12:27
-Shall we go in?	0:12:27	0:12:28
-Shall we go in? - -Yes, OK. Follow me.	0:12:28	0:12:30
-In each room is a mock crime scene.	0:12:31	0:12:34
-I've come to see -how they investigate blood patterns.	0:12:35	0:12:39
-For me in this room, -the main piece of blood evidence...	0:12:39	0:12:43
-..is on the wall.	0:12:43	0:12:45
-That looks like it could be -from the victim, more than likely.	0:12:46	0:12:50
-You've got fine spotting there.	0:12:50	0:12:52
-What could be of more interest -is blood...	0:12:53	0:12:55
-..that might have been -from the suspect.	0:12:56	0:12:59
-We've got blood spots here -and a blood spot there...	0:12:59	0:13:02
-..that's -slightly away from the body.	0:13:03	0:13:06
-These being circular will have -fallen directly from above.	0:13:06	0:13:10
-It could be from something they were -holding that was bloodstained...	0:13:10	0:13:14
-..or from an injury -on the suspect.	0:13:14	0:13:17
-Next door in the laboratory...	0:13:18	0:13:20
-..they analyse -blood patterns thoroughly.	0:13:21	0:13:24
-For example, -if I have this completely flat...	0:13:24	0:13:28
-..like so...	0:13:28	0:13:30
-..and drip some blood on it...	0:13:30	0:13:32
-..you can see that -they're pretty much spherical.	0:13:37	0:13:41
-That would indicate that the blood -has dripped straight from above...	0:13:41	0:13:46
-..similar to -what we had in the scene.	0:13:46	0:13:49
-If I change the angle -and do it again...	0:13:49	0:13:53
-..you can see that the blood -that forms this time...	0:13:59	0:14:02
-..is a slightly different shape.	0:14:02	0:14:05
-What we can do is measure the width -and length of those blood spots...	0:14:05	0:14:09
-..and use a formula -to determine the angle...	0:14:09	0:14:14
-..that the blood -has hit that surface at.	0:14:14	0:14:17
-You could use something like this...	0:14:17	0:14:20
-..to help interpret -the unknowns at the scene.	0:14:20	0:14:23
-They use scientific formulae to -learn more about the crime scene...	0:14:29	0:14:33
-..to interpret what happened.	0:14:33	0:14:35
-So, what would that tell you?	0:14:42	0:14:44
-That could indicate -what it looks like cast off.	0:14:44	0:14:47
-That might be -from a weapon that's been swung.	0:14:47	0:14:50
-Every backswing could potentially -produce a line like that.	0:14:51	0:14:55
-Here, you can see -three defined lines...	0:14:55	0:14:58
-..so that would suggest -three instances.	0:14:58	0:15:02
-If you've got loads of lines...	0:15:03	0:15:05
-..that could be the difference -between a murder and manslaughter...	0:15:05	0:15:10
-..because it's obviously -more determined.	0:15:10	0:15:13
-In 2015, some half a mile -from the university...	0:15:19	0:15:22
-..a crime was committed -which shook the community.	0:15:23	0:15:26
-Tracey Woodford -from the Rhydyfelin area...	0:15:28	0:15:31
-..disappeared in April.	0:15:31	0:15:33
-Her family contacted police about -the 47-year-old's disappearance.	0:15:36	0:15:41
-We knew -she'd left her house that morning...	0:15:44	0:15:47
-..to do some shopping -in Pontypridd...	0:15:47	0:15:50
-..and we knew -she'd visited a few pubs...	0:15:50	0:15:54
-..before turning up -at the Skinny Dog pub.	0:15:54	0:15:58
-It was there -that she met a group of people.	0:15:58	0:16:02
-We know she was there for a while.	0:16:02	0:16:04
-Police carried out inquiries -and visited the Skinny Dog...	0:16:06	0:16:11
-..to learn more about her movements.	0:16:11	0:16:13
-She was seen there with a local man.	0:16:14	0:16:16
-A man named Christopher May.	0:16:16	0:16:18
-Some time before 11.30pm, she -left the pub with Christopher May.	0:16:22	0:16:27
-We know from CCTV footage -that she's wearing his coat.	0:16:27	0:16:31
-The CCTV -shows the pair crossing the road...	0:16:32	0:16:35
-..and walking in the direction -of May's home in the Graig area.	0:16:35	0:16:40
-That's the last piece -of CCTV footage we have...	0:16:40	0:16:43
-..of Tracey Woodford alive -and of her with Christopher May.	0:16:44	0:16:48
-Two officers -went to May's flat to question him.	0:16:50	0:16:53
-He said he'd left -Tracey Woodford that night...	0:16:53	0:16:58
-..near the town's railway bridge -before walking home alone.	0:16:58	0:17:02
-But the police doubted his story.	0:17:02	0:17:05
-They suspected -something was wrong at his home.	0:17:05	0:17:08
-When they arrived, -they were let into the flat...	0:17:11	0:17:14
-..and as Christopher May -let them in...	0:17:14	0:17:17
-..they were -greeted by a very pungent smell.	0:17:17	0:17:21
-It smelt like rotting meat.	0:17:21	0:17:23
-Christopher May...	0:17:29	0:17:31
-..allowed the police to look around.	0:17:31	0:17:34
-They came to the bathroom...	0:17:36	0:17:38
-..and pulled back -the shower curtain.	0:17:38	0:17:43
-As they pulled back the curtain...	0:17:45	0:17:47
-..they found -dismembered legs and arms.	0:17:48	0:17:51
-Following forensic tests...	0:18:02	0:18:04
-..it was confirmed that they were -the limbs of Tracey Woodford.	0:18:04	0:18:08
-Christopher May changed his story.	0:18:08	0:18:11
-He confessed that she'd -gone back to his flat that night.	0:18:11	0:18:15
-He denied murdering her...	0:18:18	0:18:20
-..but admitted -dismembering her body.	0:18:20	0:18:24
-Christopher May -was a 50-year-old local man.	0:18:26	0:18:30
-He was an unemployed father of two.	0:18:30	0:18:33
-He'd previously worked -as a butcher in the town.	0:18:33	0:18:36
-He had very good -chopping and sawing skills.	0:18:38	0:18:42
-After searching the flat...	0:18:45	0:18:47
-..police found -other parts of her body.	0:18:47	0:18:50
-Parts of her ribs in one bag -and her fingers in her handbag.	0:18:50	0:18:55
-May had tried -to flush some body parts away...	0:18:55	0:19:00
-..but other parts were missing.	0:19:00	0:19:02
-Christopher May confessed -that he'd placed other body parts...	0:19:04	0:19:08
-..in the town's storm drain.	0:19:08	0:19:10
-It emerged that he'd walked -along Pontypridd high street...	0:19:10	0:19:14
-..carrying Tracey Woodford's head -in a plastic bag.	0:19:14	0:19:18
-Police searched the town -for the rest of her remains...	0:19:23	0:19:26
-..including -Sardis Road rugby ground.	0:19:27	0:19:31
-The place was shut down.	0:19:37	0:19:39
-Pontypridd town centre, -from the train station...	0:19:39	0:19:42
-..all the way to Sardis Road...	0:19:43	0:19:46
-..was completely closed off -by police.	0:19:47	0:19:50
-A helicopter flew overhead.	0:19:50	0:19:52
-It was clear that a major crime -had been committed.	0:19:52	0:19:55
-It took considerable effort -to find Tracey Woodford.	0:19:58	0:20:02
-Christopher May told us that -he'd put the rest of her remains...	0:20:03	0:20:08
-..in a storm drain -somewhere in Pontypridd.	0:20:08	0:20:12
-It was vital -to find all her remains...	0:20:12	0:20:15
-..for the sake of her family.	0:20:15	0:20:18
-Police searched every drain -surrounding the rugby ground.	0:20:29	0:20:34
-There must've been -more than 50 people...	0:20:34	0:20:38
-..searching the place thoroughly.	0:20:38	0:20:41
-They focused on the drains. -This one's an example.	0:20:41	0:20:44
-Police officers opened up the drains -and searched inside.	0:20:45	0:20:51
-As you can see -from the blue paint...	0:20:51	0:20:54
-..they marked each drain -they searched.	0:20:54	0:20:58
-They did that all over the ground.	0:20:58	0:21:01
-Searching the river -was the next step.	0:21:05	0:21:07
-This footage belongs to a specialist -team that entered the drain.	0:21:12	0:21:17
-As they scoured -further up the river...	0:21:25	0:21:28
-..they found Tracey Woodford's -head on a ledge inside the drain...	0:21:28	0:21:33
-..and another body part -in the same chamber.	0:21:33	0:21:37
-Christopher May -was arrested and charged...	0:21:43	0:21:46
-..with Tracey Woodford's murder.	0:21:46	0:21:48
-He pleaded not guilty.	0:21:49	0:21:51
-During the hearing...	0:21:55	0:21:57
-..May admitted that he was -responsible for Tracey's death...	0:21:57	0:22:01
-..but denied murdering her.	0:22:01	0:22:04
-He claimed -to have killed her in self-defence.	0:22:04	0:22:07
-However, at Cardiff Crown Court...	0:22:15	0:22:17
-..the jury took less than an hour...	0:22:18	0:22:20
-..to find Christopher May -guilty of murder.	0:22:20	0:22:24
-The judge said that it was -a cruel and barbaric murder...	0:22:27	0:22:31
-..and that May -was a very dangerous man.	0:22:32	0:22:34
-He was sentenced to life in prison -with a minimum term of 28 years.	0:22:37	0:22:41
-May had shown no remorse -for his actions of murder...	0:22:42	0:22:45
-..mutilation and dismemberment.	0:22:46	0:22:48
-We see devastation in our eyes and -know the hurt the other is feeling.	0:22:48	0:22:53
-We know that we are helpless -to stop the pain.	0:22:53	0:22:57
-For Tracey Woodford's family, the -gruesome details were heartbreaking.	0:23:02	0:23:07
-Understanding Christopher May's -actions is almost impossible.	0:23:08	0:23:12
-The horror of this case...	0:23:12	0:23:14
-..will remain with the detectives -who worked on this investigation.	0:23:15	0:23:20
-Nothing can prepare you -for what the officers found...	0:23:25	0:23:29
-..behind the shower curtain.	0:23:29	0:23:31
-It's something you deal with...	0:23:31	0:23:34
-..but some jobs -stay in your mind forever.	0:23:34	0:23:38
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