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Families can be driven apart for all manner of reasons. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
My mum went away and didn't come back. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:07 | |
And when you do lose touch with your loved ones... | 0:00:07 | 0:00:10 | |
I never saw Kathleen again. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:12 | |
..finding them can take a lifetime... | 0:00:12 | 0:00:14 | |
I wonder where he is. I wonder what he's doing. | 0:00:14 | 0:00:17 | |
You don't even know where to begin. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:19 | |
..especially when they could be anywhere - at home or abroad. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:24 | |
That's where the family finders come in. | 0:00:25 | 0:00:28 | |
Hi, it's the Salvation Army Family Tracing Service. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:31 | |
From international organisations... | 0:00:31 | 0:00:34 | |
There's never been a day when we have never had new enquiries. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:37 | |
..to genealogy detective agencies... | 0:00:37 | 0:00:40 | |
When was it you last had contact with him? | 0:00:40 | 0:00:42 | |
..and dedicated one-man bands. | 0:00:42 | 0:00:44 | |
I like to do the searches that other people can't get, | 0:00:44 | 0:00:47 | |
because it makes me feel good. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:48 | |
They hunt through history... | 0:00:48 | 0:00:51 | |
to bring families back together again. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:54 | |
You are my biological dad. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:56 | |
In this series, we follow the work of the family finders... | 0:00:56 | 0:00:59 | |
This case came from our Australian colleagues. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:02 | |
..learning the tricks they use | 0:01:02 | 0:01:03 | |
to track missing relatives through time... | 0:01:03 | 0:01:06 | |
I'm 68 years of age, she is 75 years of age and we're just starting off. | 0:01:06 | 0:01:10 | |
..and meeting the people whose lives they change along the way. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:14 | |
I said, well, this is your younger sister. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:16 | |
It's a miracle. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:17 | |
I was struck speechless. And I couldn't stop crying. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:21 | |
Proud moment. For Dad. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:23 | |
That was the start of finding my family. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:26 | |
Our identity is what makes us unique. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:35 | |
And knowing where we came from is an important part of knowing | 0:01:35 | 0:01:39 | |
who we are. | 0:01:39 | 0:01:41 | |
For many people, this knowledge is hard to come by | 0:01:41 | 0:01:45 | |
and can mean a lifetime of searching for answers. | 0:01:45 | 0:01:48 | |
But chance, timing and a bit of luck can play | 0:01:50 | 0:01:53 | |
a big part in connecting a person with their past. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:56 | |
When Eric Morgan arrived at the recruiting office in 1952, | 0:01:59 | 0:02:03 | |
to sign up for his National Service, | 0:02:03 | 0:02:05 | |
little did he know his life was about to be turned upside down. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:09 | |
I went down to the recruiting office. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:12 | |
And you had to take your birth certificate. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:14 | |
And me mother gave me me birth certificate... | 0:02:14 | 0:02:17 | |
I put it in me pocket and went to the recruiting office. I give them it. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:24 | |
He took some details. Gave me it back. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:27 | |
I folded it up, put it in me pocket and I went back to see me mum. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:31 | |
And I said, "Oh, here you are," and she started crying. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:35 | |
And I said... | 0:02:36 | 0:02:37 | |
I said, "What's the matter?" | 0:02:44 | 0:02:46 | |
She said, "Have you read it?" | 0:02:46 | 0:02:47 | |
I said, "No." | 0:02:49 | 0:02:51 | |
She said, "Well, if you look, it's an adoption paper." | 0:02:51 | 0:02:54 | |
And I said, "Well, it don't matter, that." | 0:02:56 | 0:02:58 | |
I said, "You'll always be my mother, no matter what. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:02 | |
"You'll always be my mother. So forget it." | 0:03:02 | 0:03:05 | |
The news that he was adopted came as a massive shock for Eric, | 0:03:05 | 0:03:09 | |
and he yearned to know more about his true origins. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:12 | |
I wanted to know, to fill a vacant part in my life. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:20 | |
But there was an even bigger bombshell to come. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:23 | |
Took me adoption paper and I went down to the registrar in Bradford. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:29 | |
I said, "From this, can I have a birth certificate?" | 0:03:29 | 0:03:33 | |
They said, "No problem." So he went round t'back, and he came back then, | 0:03:33 | 0:03:39 | |
and said to me, he said, "Oh, I'm sorry, lad, I can't find anything." | 0:03:39 | 0:03:45 | |
I said, "Why?" He said, "Well, there's nothing there about you." | 0:03:45 | 0:03:49 | |
I said, "Well, how many boys were | 0:03:51 | 0:03:52 | |
"born in St Luke's on the 17th of the sixth, 1934?" | 0:03:52 | 0:03:59 | |
He said, "Four. But you weren't one of them." | 0:03:59 | 0:04:02 | |
On top of everything else, Eric was now being told that, | 0:04:04 | 0:04:07 | |
as far as the records were concerned, he didn't exist. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:10 | |
With this monumental blow, he had no choice | 0:04:12 | 0:04:15 | |
but to leave the past where it was and get on with his life. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:18 | |
After completing National Service, he met his wife, Valerie, | 0:04:19 | 0:04:23 | |
and they went on to have a family of their own. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:25 | |
Eric Morgan never stopped wondering about his true identity | 0:04:27 | 0:04:31 | |
but he'd have to wait a lifetime before the secret | 0:04:31 | 0:04:33 | |
of his origins would become clear. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:35 | |
60 years later, in the Yorkshire town of Halifax, | 0:04:37 | 0:04:41 | |
another man was carrying out his own family search, | 0:04:41 | 0:04:44 | |
a search that would hold the key to the mystery. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:48 | |
I'd love to know who my real father was. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:52 | |
Brian Frith was born in a little village | 0:04:52 | 0:04:55 | |
near Bradford, to a single mother in 1935. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:58 | |
She later married and Brian was brought up by her | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
and his stepfather. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:05 | |
I knew he were my stepdad. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:08 | |
To me... In them days, he was my dad, but in name only. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:15 | |
It was things what people used to say. Why is your name different? | 0:05:15 | 0:05:20 | |
This, that and the other and called you a basket, all things like that. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:26 | |
Them things come out then. It didn't... | 0:05:26 | 0:05:31 | |
I wasn't worried about it because, like I say, | 0:05:31 | 0:05:34 | |
I had other brothers and sisters and a mother. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:38 | |
That was the main thing in them days. The mother was most important. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:43 | |
Brian grew up with his half-sister, May, and her brothers and sisters | 0:05:43 | 0:05:47 | |
around the textile mills of Bradford where their parents both worked. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:52 | |
I knew they weren't my full brothers and sisters, | 0:05:52 | 0:05:54 | |
but as far as I was concerned, they was. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:56 | |
It was a happy house, put it that way. | 0:05:56 | 0:05:59 | |
We were no different to any other kids in that time, were we? | 0:05:59 | 0:06:03 | |
No, no. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:05 | |
Our mother was really hard-working and she loved all her kids. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:11 | |
-She did. -She did everything she could for us and it were happy. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:15 | |
In an evening when she'd finished her work, | 0:06:15 | 0:06:17 | |
she'd sit in an armchair near the fire | 0:06:17 | 0:06:21 | |
and we'd all sit on the arms round my mum and joke and talk. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:26 | |
Singing and that. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:28 | |
Since retirement, May has been trying to help Brian | 0:06:28 | 0:06:32 | |
find out the identity of his biological father. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:34 | |
Brian never knew who his father was and he was always wanting to know. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:41 | |
Every time I went to see him, he'd say, | 0:06:41 | 0:06:44 | |
"Have you found my dad yet?" | 0:06:44 | 0:06:47 | |
Brian's birth certificate stated no named father, | 0:06:47 | 0:06:51 | |
so all May had to go on was Brian's surname, Frith. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:55 | |
I thought, what about if I just put the surname and put Bradford | 0:06:56 | 0:07:01 | |
and put what year I wanted. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:04 | |
Would I find anything else? | 0:07:04 | 0:07:05 | |
May's search failed to come up with any Friths who were | 0:07:05 | 0:07:09 | |
the right age to be Brian's father, | 0:07:09 | 0:07:11 | |
but she did find a younger man listed with the same name. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:16 | |
I found E Frith, next to my brother who was B Frith. | 0:07:16 | 0:07:20 | |
E stood for Eric, and this Eric Frith's mother | 0:07:20 | 0:07:24 | |
had the same name as theirs, Elizabeth. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:26 | |
Had May stumbled across a family secret? | 0:07:26 | 0:07:30 | |
I haven't found another Elizabeth in Bradford at that age. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:37 | |
It suddenly seemed that Brian and May's mum could have had | 0:07:37 | 0:07:39 | |
another child, a half-brother they never knew existed. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:44 | |
I thought, could he really be our brother? | 0:07:45 | 0:07:49 | |
I went to the Bradford register office and I told them | 0:07:49 | 0:07:52 | |
Elizabeth Frith was my mum and they supplied me | 0:07:52 | 0:07:56 | |
with a birth certificate for Eric. | 0:07:56 | 0:08:00 | |
And there it was in black and white. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:03 | |
May nearly decided not to make contact with Eric, | 0:08:03 | 0:08:06 | |
but speaking to her son made her think again. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
He said, "Do you want to find out if he's your brother?" | 0:08:09 | 0:08:14 | |
I said, "Yes, I'd like to." And he says, "Well, go for it." So I did. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:20 | |
She got in contact with the adoption agency | 0:08:20 | 0:08:23 | |
to get the ball rolling and they revealed their new-found brother | 0:08:23 | 0:08:27 | |
was now going by the name of Eric Morgan, | 0:08:27 | 0:08:31 | |
the same Eric Morgan, who, 60 years ago, had given up | 0:08:31 | 0:08:35 | |
all hope of ever finding his birth mother. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:38 | |
I got a letter from the adoption society and they said, | 0:08:38 | 0:08:42 | |
"We've had a lady who's claiming to be your stepsister." | 0:08:42 | 0:08:47 | |
I thought, "Oh, right." | 0:08:47 | 0:08:49 | |
After a lifetime of waiting, 81-year-old Eric had finally | 0:08:49 | 0:08:53 | |
found some birth relatives, or at least they had found him, | 0:08:53 | 0:08:57 | |
but there were still a few more bumps to come | 0:08:57 | 0:08:59 | |
on the road to reunion. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:01 | |
I said to our May, "He's a con merchant." | 0:09:01 | 0:09:05 | |
He could be any Tom, Dick or Harry, couldn't he? | 0:09:05 | 0:09:09 | |
There are many professional agencies you can use to help you | 0:09:14 | 0:09:16 | |
at different stages of the family finding process. | 0:09:16 | 0:09:19 | |
One of them is FinderMonkey in Leeds. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:23 | |
A lot of people that come to us | 0:09:23 | 0:09:24 | |
tell us that they've been really frustrated, | 0:09:24 | 0:09:26 | |
sometimes for years on end, | 0:09:26 | 0:09:27 | |
trying to find the person that they're looking for. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:29 | |
What we're able to do is find an exact match | 0:09:30 | 0:09:33 | |
because we have access to systems that are far more detailed than | 0:09:33 | 0:09:36 | |
they can access themselves. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:38 | |
30-year-old Stephen Hills was only a baby | 0:09:41 | 0:09:44 | |
when his dad lived at home and he has no memories of him. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:48 | |
I have always had questions in my mind. What does he look like? | 0:09:48 | 0:09:51 | |
What does he do? Where does he live? | 0:09:51 | 0:09:53 | |
Why it all broke down between him and my mum. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:57 | |
Stephen grew up with his mum and stepdad in Balby, Doncaster. | 0:09:57 | 0:10:02 | |
He was good to me. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:05 | |
When I was growing up, I had a brother and a sister, | 0:10:05 | 0:10:07 | |
both younger than me. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:09 | |
His family was always open | 0:10:09 | 0:10:11 | |
and honest with Stephen about his background. | 0:10:11 | 0:10:15 | |
When I was about ten, my mum and stepdad sat me down | 0:10:15 | 0:10:19 | |
in the back garden and told me that | 0:10:19 | 0:10:22 | |
he wasn't my real dad and asked me how I felt about it and whatnot. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:27 | |
If I'm honest, it was on my mind all the time | 0:10:27 | 0:10:30 | |
but I sort of put it to the back of my mind and got on with things. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:37 | |
As soon as I turned 16, 17, I joined the army and left. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:43 | |
Stephen was hoping to join the Coldstream Guards, | 0:10:43 | 0:10:46 | |
but, sadly, was unable to complete his training. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:50 | |
I had an accident in the army which made me medically discharged, | 0:10:50 | 0:10:53 | |
so I moved out and started a family of my own. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:57 | |
But now, having children of his own, | 0:10:58 | 0:11:00 | |
made Stephen think again about finding his dad. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:03 | |
Because me and Stephen are now getting married | 0:11:03 | 0:11:05 | |
and obviously he's got children, we've got a child together, I think | 0:11:05 | 0:11:09 | |
he wants his dad to be there for the children growing up. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:13 | |
He wants him to be there on his wedding day and things like that. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:16 | |
It really means a lot to him, so... | 0:11:16 | 0:11:19 | |
All Stephen had to start his search was his birth certificate. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:23 | |
On the birth certificate, I've got his full name, where he was born, | 0:11:23 | 0:11:27 | |
what job he actually did. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:29 | |
His occupation was a coalface worker, | 0:11:29 | 0:11:31 | |
so he would've been a miner at the time. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:33 | |
With me being born, they were actually on strike, | 0:11:33 | 0:11:37 | |
so that might have been a big key to why him and my mum split up. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:44 | |
When I typed his name up on the social media site, | 0:11:44 | 0:11:47 | |
quite a few names came up - | 0:11:47 | 0:11:49 | |
70 different people with the same name. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:52 | |
So I did think about messaging people but I didn't know what to write, | 0:11:54 | 0:12:00 | |
if I'm honest. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:02 | |
Frustrated, Stephen turned to the professionals. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:06 | |
I got in touch with the company FinderMonkey. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:09 | |
I didn't think I were going to get anywhere. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:12 | |
Basically, I thought, | 0:12:12 | 0:12:14 | |
"It's been 30 years, he's probably moved on with his life." | 0:12:14 | 0:12:17 | |
Stephen had been looking for his dad for 15 years, that's the | 0:12:21 | 0:12:24 | |
information that he gave us, but he'd been unable to locate a match. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:29 | |
Stephen gave the researchers what information he had. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:33 | |
His name, his age, where he was born. I gave them all that. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:38 | |
From that information, we went away | 0:12:38 | 0:12:41 | |
and looked for his marriage to Stephen's mum, | 0:12:41 | 0:12:45 | |
which we found, in 1982, and then we also, from then, | 0:12:45 | 0:12:49 | |
went back and looked for a birth record. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:52 | |
And we found somebody that we believed was the right one, | 0:12:52 | 0:12:54 | |
who was born in Kent in 1956. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:57 | |
We'd then wanted to try and trace him to a current address | 0:12:57 | 0:13:00 | |
so that we could contact him to find out | 0:13:00 | 0:13:02 | |
and confirm it was the right person. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:04 | |
They told Stephen they'd write to the man they believed to be | 0:13:06 | 0:13:09 | |
his father on his behalf, saying he would like to get in touch. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:13 | |
"Dear Mr Woodcock, we are people that find lost families. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:21 | |
"We are trying to contact a Mr Alan John Woodcock, born in Kent, | 0:13:21 | 0:13:27 | |
"lived in Doncaster in the '80s." | 0:13:27 | 0:13:30 | |
Rang the phone number on the letter and... | 0:13:31 | 0:13:38 | |
..they told me that my son has been trying to contact me, | 0:13:41 | 0:13:47 | |
and I went silent. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:49 | |
Alan was born into a mining family in Kent in the 1950s. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:56 | |
I was born in 1956, in Dover. | 0:13:56 | 0:14:00 | |
Went to a boarding school... | 0:14:00 | 0:14:02 | |
And then... | 0:14:04 | 0:14:05 | |
When I left school at 15, I went down the pit. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:11 | |
Alan lived with Stephen's mother in the village next to the colliery. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:16 | |
We were courting and got married. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
Bought my own... we'd bought our own house, | 0:14:20 | 0:14:24 | |
and then the strike came... | 0:14:24 | 0:14:26 | |
..and it just fell apart from then onwards, | 0:14:28 | 0:14:32 | |
cos of... basically because of the strike. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:34 | |
The last time I saw Stephen, he was a bit more than a babe in arms. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:40 | |
I think he was walking, but every time I went up, | 0:14:40 | 0:14:45 | |
there was an argument, and I didn't want to go up and argue. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:50 | |
I was going up to see Stephen. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:52 | |
So I just said, in the end, "I'll stay away..." | 0:14:52 | 0:14:56 | |
..and lost touch. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:01 | |
30 years later, and Alan now had Stephen's phone number, | 0:15:04 | 0:15:08 | |
but making contact was never going to be easy, | 0:15:08 | 0:15:11 | |
and meeting face-to-face even harder. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:15 | |
What will happen when this father meets the son he's never known? | 0:15:15 | 0:15:20 | |
As a young man, Eric Morgan discovered he was adopted but was | 0:15:31 | 0:15:35 | |
told that as far as the records were concerned, he didn't actually exist. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:39 | |
His identity remained a mystery until 60 years later | 0:15:41 | 0:15:44 | |
when May and Brian Frith tracked him down. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:47 | |
It appeared from May's research | 0:15:47 | 0:15:49 | |
that all three of them shared the same mother. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:52 | |
May believed Eric was born Eric Frith, | 0:15:52 | 0:15:55 | |
and he'd been searching under the wrong name all along. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:58 | |
The adoption agency told him the ball was now in his court. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:02 | |
They said, "You don't have to see this lady. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:08 | |
"If you say forget it, we'll forget it now." | 0:16:08 | 0:16:12 | |
After all this time, did he want to revisit his past? | 0:16:13 | 0:16:17 | |
They said, "Would you mind if I gave May your address?" | 0:16:18 | 0:16:23 | |
I said, "Well, yeah, go on, then." | 0:16:24 | 0:16:28 | |
With nothing to lose and everything to gain, | 0:16:28 | 0:16:31 | |
Eric waited for May to write him a letter. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:33 | |
When I wrote the letter, I just said, | 0:16:33 | 0:16:36 | |
"Hello, Eric, I think you might be my brother, half-brother." | 0:16:36 | 0:16:41 | |
"Erm, your mother has the same name as my mother, | 0:16:42 | 0:16:47 | |
"and would you be interested in meeting?" | 0:16:47 | 0:16:51 | |
She said, "Eric, you don't have to answer this, if you don't want. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:57 | |
"But if you do, ring this number." | 0:16:57 | 0:16:59 | |
So I rang the number and it was May. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:03 | |
I said, "How have you done all this?" | 0:17:03 | 0:17:05 | |
And she said, "I've done it on t'computer." | 0:17:05 | 0:17:07 | |
It turned out the family were practically neighbours. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:11 | |
When we found Eric, | 0:17:11 | 0:17:13 | |
he lived five minutes away from my sister Margaret. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:17 | |
They probably walked past one another on the street. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:20 | |
She said, "Do you think we could meet up?" | 0:17:20 | 0:17:23 | |
And I said, "Yeah, we can do." | 0:17:23 | 0:17:25 | |
For May, there was an instant connection. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:29 | |
It wasn't as if we were meeting strangers. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:32 | |
We just walked in and says, "Hello" | 0:17:32 | 0:17:34 | |
and talked about different things from the past. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:39 | |
But when Brian met Eric, he was suspicious. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:42 | |
Was this man REALLY related to them? | 0:17:42 | 0:17:45 | |
I said to our May, "He's a con merchant." | 0:17:46 | 0:17:49 | |
Because he evaded saying when I asked him things. | 0:17:50 | 0:17:53 | |
So, I thought, well... | 0:17:53 | 0:17:56 | |
is he really | 0:17:56 | 0:17:58 | |
my brother? | 0:17:58 | 0:17:59 | |
Even now, Brian remained unconvinced. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:03 | |
At the moment, he could be any Tom, Dick or Harry, couldn't he? | 0:18:03 | 0:18:08 | |
May suggested they do a DNA test to find out once and for all | 0:18:09 | 0:18:13 | |
if Eric really was their half-brother. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:15 | |
The three of them sent their swab samples to a testing company, | 0:18:17 | 0:18:21 | |
who carried out a test much like the one DNA scientist Chris Jones | 0:18:21 | 0:18:25 | |
is carrying out here. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:26 | |
The results usually take around two days to come through. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:31 | |
Will science rewrite history for Brian, May and Eric? | 0:18:31 | 0:18:36 | |
Tomorrow Alan and Stephen are going | 0:18:43 | 0:18:45 | |
to meet face-to-face for the first time in 30 years. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:49 | |
And not only that, | 0:18:50 | 0:18:52 | |
Alan will also meet his granddaughter, Lily Grace, | 0:18:52 | 0:18:55 | |
and Stephen's fiancee, Steph. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:58 | |
I think he's really nervous to meet him, | 0:18:58 | 0:19:00 | |
but at the same time he's really excited. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:02 | |
Obviously, he wants to meet his dad, he wants to see what he's like, | 0:19:02 | 0:19:05 | |
if they like each other... | 0:19:05 | 0:19:06 | |
Because I've said he does look like him, so, yeah. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:09 | |
I am a bit nervous... | 0:19:11 | 0:19:13 | |
but I don't know what to expect. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:15 | |
I think he will just... go with the flow. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:19 | |
I'm more nervous, I would say. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:22 | |
As Alan makes the 100-mile journey from his home in Stoke, | 0:19:25 | 0:19:30 | |
Stephen drives to the arranged meeting place, | 0:19:30 | 0:19:32 | |
close to his home in Pontefract. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:34 | |
I didn't get a good night's sleep. A bit of... | 0:19:34 | 0:19:37 | |
Kept waking up. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:39 | |
I think it's to do with nerves for today. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:41 | |
So... | 0:19:41 | 0:19:43 | |
It's been 30 years since I've seen him. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:47 | |
I'm very anx...apprehensious. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:52 | |
Can't even pronounce it! | 0:19:52 | 0:19:53 | |
Stephen is the first to arrive, but steps outside | 0:20:06 | 0:20:10 | |
in nervous anticipation of his father's arrival. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:14 | |
-Hiya. You all right? -I am now. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:32 | |
-Are you? -Aye. -Come on then. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:34 | |
Stepping into the role of dad after 30 years | 0:20:36 | 0:20:38 | |
isn't necessarily going to be easy for Alan. | 0:20:38 | 0:20:42 | |
I can see you properly, now. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:44 | |
-Hiya. You all right? -I am now. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:46 | |
Good, good. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:48 | |
It all starts off well, with Alan having made the effort | 0:20:48 | 0:20:51 | |
to get a present for his young granddaughter. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:54 | |
Who's that? | 0:20:54 | 0:20:55 | |
-Peppa Pig! -Peppa Pig, yeah! | 0:20:55 | 0:20:58 | |
-What do you say? -Thank you. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:00 | |
-How's it going? -Spot-on. -Good. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:03 | |
I brought some photos and that. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:06 | |
There's a lot of ground to be covered after 30 years apart, | 0:21:06 | 0:21:10 | |
so to get things started, | 0:21:10 | 0:21:12 | |
Stephen's brought along some photos of him as a boy. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:15 | |
-That you? -It doesn't look like him, I say. -It doesn't. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:20 | |
And Alan's also brought photos, including one of him as a child. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:24 | |
Me and my sister Maureen. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:26 | |
So when was this? | 0:21:26 | 0:21:28 | |
I was about ten. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:30 | |
And that's your grandad. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:33 | |
He died... He's been dead... | 0:21:33 | 0:21:37 | |
eight years this coming February. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:39 | |
Then it's time for a photo for the new family album. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:43 | |
-Are you going to cheese? ALL: -Cheese. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:46 | |
-Who's that? -Erm... | 0:21:51 | 0:21:52 | |
-STEPH WHISPERS: -Grandad Alan. | 0:21:52 | 0:21:54 | |
-Ga... -Grandad Alan. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:56 | |
-Grandad Alan! -STEPH CHUCKLES | 0:21:56 | 0:21:59 | |
Off to a good, if tentative start, | 0:21:59 | 0:22:01 | |
Alan is keen for Stephen to know more about his life. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:04 | |
The last time Alan saw Stephen, 30 years ago, | 0:22:07 | 0:22:11 | |
he was still working as a miner. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:13 | |
And today he wants to show him the site of the coalmine | 0:22:15 | 0:22:18 | |
where he used to work. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:20 | |
When was the last time you was here? | 0:22:20 | 0:22:22 | |
Um... | 0:22:22 | 0:22:23 | |
'87, I think it was. '88. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:27 | |
By 1985 the strikers were defeated, | 0:22:29 | 0:22:32 | |
and by the '90s, most pits in the country had closed. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:36 | |
Bentley colliery was demolished in 1984 | 0:22:36 | 0:22:39 | |
and is now woodland. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:41 | |
Parts of the old rock-cutting works now mark the site | 0:22:45 | 0:22:48 | |
where the mine once stood. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:50 | |
What was it like around here, then? | 0:22:52 | 0:22:54 | |
Before the strike, it was a completely different place. | 0:22:54 | 0:22:58 | |
And then the strike... | 0:23:00 | 0:23:02 | |
And, erm... | 0:23:03 | 0:23:04 | |
..the men didn't have so much say | 0:23:06 | 0:23:09 | |
in the matter... | 0:23:09 | 0:23:12 | |
how the job was done. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:13 | |
It was, "We're the managers, and you will do as we say." | 0:23:15 | 0:23:19 | |
That's what killed it. | 0:23:19 | 0:23:21 | |
They wanted the average working man | 0:23:22 | 0:23:25 | |
under the thumb. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:27 | |
And the miners, we weren't going to stand for it. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:30 | |
So, that's what basically killed it. | 0:23:33 | 0:23:36 | |
Not a question of closing it, it ruined people's lives, didn't it? | 0:23:36 | 0:23:39 | |
And they had no work. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:43 | |
Area's died off. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:45 | |
The nerves and the tension leading up to their meeting | 0:23:46 | 0:23:49 | |
have now subsided. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:51 | |
-It's a lot more calmer, less nervous now. -Yeah. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:54 | |
I want to get to know you better. | 0:23:57 | 0:23:59 | |
If that all goes well, I'd like you to probably come to my wedding | 0:24:01 | 0:24:04 | |
and be a part of that day. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:06 | |
Well, as I said about coming down here, | 0:24:08 | 0:24:10 | |
wild horses wouldn't keep me away. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:11 | |
Shown him a bit about my life... | 0:24:13 | 0:24:14 | |
..and he's told me what I've missed out on. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:20 | |
And I've been invited to the wedding | 0:24:20 | 0:24:22 | |
and we are going to go and have a few beers. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:24 | |
Today's gone well, | 0:24:25 | 0:24:27 | |
and obviously today is the first step of many. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:30 | |
He seems proud of me, so... | 0:24:32 | 0:24:36 | |
see how the future comes. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:38 | |
In Warrington, the DNA results are in. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:49 | |
Do Brian, May and Eric share the same mother? | 0:24:49 | 0:24:53 | |
The result of the analysis shows, | 0:24:53 | 0:24:56 | |
with a probability of 99.9067% | 0:24:56 | 0:25:00 | |
that Eric is the half-sibling of May Gray, | 0:25:00 | 0:25:02 | |
sharing the same biological mother. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:05 | |
So Eric and May are definitely related. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:08 | |
But there was more. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:10 | |
Brian's hunch had been right - Eric isn't his half-brother, at all. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:15 | |
Eric is the full sibling of Brian Frith, | 0:25:15 | 0:25:18 | |
sharing both the biological mother and a biological father. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:22 | |
Instead, remarkably, it turned out Brian and Eric | 0:25:22 | 0:25:26 | |
are actually full brothers. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:28 | |
When we got the results, we were all over the moon. | 0:25:28 | 0:25:32 | |
It came through that he was full brother. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:36 | |
And I would've give you 1,000-to-1, that I wasn't their stepbrother... | 0:25:36 | 0:25:43 | |
but when I found out I were Brian's proper brother... | 0:25:43 | 0:25:45 | |
-That were a shock, wasn't it? -That were a real shock. -Yeah, yeah. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:49 | |
As you're getting older, | 0:25:49 | 0:25:51 | |
something like that that comes out of the blue... | 0:25:51 | 0:25:53 | |
-Yeah, yeah. -It's so good, isn't it? -Yeah. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:57 | |
And now the three siblings are wasting no time, | 0:25:58 | 0:26:00 | |
making up for the years they've missed out on. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:03 | |
Hiya, love! How you going on? | 0:26:03 | 0:26:05 | |
Fine, thank you. How are you? | 0:26:05 | 0:26:07 | |
I'm very well. And how are you, Brian? | 0:26:07 | 0:26:09 | |
-Are you all right, our kid? -I am, lad, aye. Up! | 0:26:09 | 0:26:12 | |
-Can you manage? -Glad to see you. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:14 | |
But there's one mystery that remains unsolved. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:19 | |
Brian's always wondered who his father was. | 0:26:19 | 0:26:23 | |
-If you're brothers... -Yeah. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:24 | |
So if he were my father, he's got to be yours. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:27 | |
As full brothers, | 0:26:27 | 0:26:28 | |
Brian and Eric have the same dad, | 0:26:28 | 0:26:30 | |
but as neither of them have details | 0:26:30 | 0:26:32 | |
of a father listed on their birth certificates, | 0:26:32 | 0:26:35 | |
neither can be sure who that man was. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:38 | |
What they do know is all three of them - | 0:26:38 | 0:26:41 | |
Brian, Eric and May - share the same mother. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:44 | |
-You'd have loved mother. -Yeah. -You would. -Yeah, yeah. | 0:26:44 | 0:26:47 | |
-It's like putting your last piece of jigsaw in. -Yeah. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:51 | |
And it's... | 0:26:51 | 0:26:53 | |
But, in the other hand, it's made me a bit sorrowful... | 0:26:53 | 0:26:59 | |
because I think I've missed out on a family. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:03 | |
Well, we've missed out on having... | 0:27:03 | 0:27:05 | |
I have, in one sense, having another brother. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:08 | |
And you can't blame your brothers and sisters... | 0:27:08 | 0:27:12 | |
-No. -No. -No. -..for what's happened. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:14 | |
And you can't blame anybody, right? | 0:27:14 | 0:27:17 | |
-It's just circumstances. -That's right. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:19 | |
In those days, women went through | 0:27:19 | 0:27:21 | |
what they shouldn't have gone through. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:24 | |
They'd no choice. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:26 | |
They had to work, they had to bring the kids up. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:29 | |
Today, Brian, May and Eric are visiting the final resting place | 0:27:31 | 0:27:35 | |
of the mother they all share | 0:27:35 | 0:27:36 | |
and it's made them wish they'd all met sooner. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:39 | |
May's brought something to me | 0:27:41 | 0:27:44 | |
that I never would've had | 0:27:44 | 0:27:45 | |
and I'd have probably died | 0:27:45 | 0:27:47 | |
wondering who my mother was. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:50 | |
Well, it's been a revelation for me. | 0:27:51 | 0:27:53 | |
At last I've got some reference to my younger days, you know. | 0:27:53 | 0:28:00 | |
I've come with both of my brothers | 0:28:02 | 0:28:04 | |
who have just found one another. | 0:28:04 | 0:28:08 | |
Both my mother's sons. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:12 | |
And it's been a brilliant day. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:15 |