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Families can be driven apart for all manner of reasons. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
My mum went away and didn't come back. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:07 | |
And when you do lose touch with your loved ones... | 0:00:07 | 0:00:10 | |
I never saw Kathleen again. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:12 | |
..finding them can take a lifetime. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:14 | |
Wonder where he is, I wonder what he's doing. | 0:00:14 | 0:00:17 | |
You don't really know where to begin. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:19 | |
Especially when they could be anywhere, at home or abroad. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:23 | |
And that's where the family finders come in. | 0:00:25 | 0:00:28 | |
Hi, it's the Salvation Army Family Tracing Service. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:31 | |
From international organisations... | 0:00:31 | 0:00:34 | |
There's never been a day when we have never had new enquiries. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:37 | |
..to genealogy detective agencies... | 0:00:37 | 0:00:40 | |
When is it you last had contact with him? | 0:00:40 | 0:00:42 | |
..and dedicated one-man bands. | 0:00:42 | 0:00:44 | |
I like to do the searches that other people can't get | 0:00:44 | 0:00:47 | |
cos it makes me feel good. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:49 | |
They hunt through history | 0:00:49 | 0:00:51 | |
to bring families back together again. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:54 | |
"You are my biological dad." | 0:00:54 | 0:00:56 | |
In this series, we follow the work of the family finders. | 0:00:56 | 0:00:59 | |
This case came from our Australian colleagues. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:02 | |
Learning the tricks they use to track missing relatives through time. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:06 | |
I'm 68 years of age, she's 75 years of age and we're just starting off. | 0:01:06 | 0:01:10 | |
And meeting the people whose lives they change along the way. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:14 | |
I said, "Well, this is your younger sister." | 0:01:14 | 0:01:16 | |
It's a miracle. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:18 | |
I was struck speechless and I couldn't stop crying. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:21 | |
It's a proud moment for Dad. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:23 | |
That was the start of finding my family. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:25 | |
Across Britain, brothers, sisters, mothers | 0:01:32 | 0:01:35 | |
and fathers can lose touch with each other. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:38 | |
For all sorts of reasons, from death to divorce to geography, | 0:01:38 | 0:01:43 | |
people drift apart. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:45 | |
But sometimes fate can draw a family together. | 0:01:45 | 0:01:47 | |
It's often the case that two people can approach us | 0:01:49 | 0:01:52 | |
looking for each other, unbeknown to each other, as well. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:55 | |
And that can make our job much easier because we have the details | 0:01:55 | 0:01:58 | |
of that person on our systems | 0:01:58 | 0:02:00 | |
so it's often a race to find each other. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:02 | |
Geraldine Turner was born in Halifax in 1950 and spent much | 0:02:03 | 0:02:08 | |
of her childhood in rural Yorkshire with her parents and grandparents. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:11 | |
There was no running hot water. | 0:02:13 | 0:02:15 | |
No heating, only gas mantles, no electric. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:18 | |
Grandad used to have an accumulator for his radio. | 0:02:18 | 0:02:22 | |
And woe and betide anybody who tried to listen to any pop music | 0:02:22 | 0:02:29 | |
on his radio. It was there for the football results and for his racing. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:34 | |
And that was it. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:35 | |
But when she was around seven years old, her father walked out. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:40 | |
Her mum, Violet, got on with life | 0:02:40 | 0:02:42 | |
and met Bill, who became Geraldine's new stepdad. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:45 | |
It wasn't long before she had two new baby brothers, Mark and John, | 0:02:47 | 0:02:51 | |
and a little sister, Joanne. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:53 | |
They lived in a small house in Coley in Yorkshire. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:56 | |
Geraldine was 11 years older | 0:02:58 | 0:03:00 | |
and like a surrogate mum to her younger siblings. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:02 | |
There were six of us in a one-up one-down. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:06 | |
But we were happy. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:11 | |
I used to feed them, bathe them, change them, | 0:03:11 | 0:03:15 | |
take them out, do things with them, babysit for Mum and my stepdad | 0:03:15 | 0:03:20 | |
when they wanted to go out. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:23 | |
So, yeah, it was very happy and that's... | 0:03:23 | 0:03:26 | |
They were content with me. We just loved each other. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:30 | |
Looking through all these photos, at the happy times that we | 0:03:33 | 0:03:36 | |
actually had when we were all together, there's some really, | 0:03:36 | 0:03:41 | |
really, really nice ones. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:43 | |
And one of my favourites, I think, is the one with my mum and me | 0:03:43 | 0:03:46 | |
and Mark at his christening. That just shows how happy times were. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:53 | |
We used to go down the woods and they would play in the beck. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:57 | |
Tiddler fishing, there, I think. | 0:03:57 | 0:03:59 | |
I think that's what was going on in that one. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:02 | |
And, then, we'd go on holiday to Bridlington. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:05 | |
And I've got one of Mark here with me and his dad. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:10 | |
Mind you, I used to have to hold him when they went on the donkeys | 0:04:10 | 0:04:13 | |
and I used to have to go on the rides with him and things like that. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:16 | |
But, yeah, it was happy times. That's Mum and my stepdad. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:21 | |
We didn't have a lot of money but we got by. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:25 | |
I think Mum did the best she could with what she had. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:29 | |
Eventually, Geraldine was able to leave the family home and, | 0:04:29 | 0:04:34 | |
in her early 20s, she got married and went to live in Scotland. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:38 | |
But soon after Geraldine left, her stepdad, Bill, died, | 0:04:40 | 0:04:43 | |
swiftly followed by her mum, Violet. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:45 | |
For the oldest child, Mark, there was | 0:04:45 | 0:04:48 | |
suddenly the pressure of responsibility. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:51 | |
Mark, 16-year-old, and he's lost both his mum and his dad. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:56 | |
His sister being 14 and John, the youngest, being 12. | 0:04:56 | 0:05:01 | |
And their lifeline's just been wiped out completely. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:06 | |
But for them... | 0:05:06 | 0:05:07 | |
..Mum and Dad had gone. That was it. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:11 | |
So, then, they're relying on relatives to look after them. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:16 | |
With her half-siblings orphaned, Geraldine felt she should take | 0:05:17 | 0:05:21 | |
them in. But with a new family of her own, | 0:05:21 | 0:05:24 | |
things weren't that simple. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:25 | |
I did want to take them on, very much so, | 0:05:27 | 0:05:29 | |
but I was 27 and, in a lot of ways, I was quite naive. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:32 | |
You always get, as you get older, you think, "Yes, | 0:05:34 | 0:05:38 | |
"I would have done it different." | 0:05:38 | 0:05:39 | |
And I wished I could have done it different. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:42 | |
But the problem is that now I think to myself, | 0:05:42 | 0:05:44 | |
"I can't have regrets, because that will tear me apart." | 0:05:44 | 0:05:48 | |
Geraldine did manage to stay in contact with her eldest brother, Mark. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:54 | |
He joined the Army and she used to write to him | 0:05:54 | 0:05:57 | |
until a terrible piece of bad luck brought contact to an abrupt halt. | 0:05:57 | 0:06:01 | |
One day, when I went to work, I had my purse pinched. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:08 | |
And in my purse was Mark's address. So, that was it. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:12 | |
I'd lost all contact with him | 0:06:12 | 0:06:14 | |
because I hadn't written it down anywhere else. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:16 | |
So, that was Mark just out of my life at that stage. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:22 | |
So, I did wonder over the years what could have happened. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:25 | |
Geraldine ended up losing touch with Mark and, for 30 years, | 0:06:26 | 0:06:30 | |
she had no idea where he was or what he was up to. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:33 | |
So, Mark, in the meantime, hadn't thought to get in touch with me | 0:06:34 | 0:06:38 | |
where I was. | 0:06:38 | 0:06:39 | |
Perhaps he was waiting for me to write to him, or something. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:43 | |
Then I moved, so then I think that's how we lost contact completely. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:47 | |
Little did she know the reasons her little brother was so elusive | 0:06:48 | 0:06:52 | |
were both stressful and traumatic. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:55 | |
Searching for lost relatives who've been missing for years | 0:07:03 | 0:07:06 | |
can seem like an impossible task for an individual to take on. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:10 | |
But there are plenty of people-finding organisations | 0:07:11 | 0:07:13 | |
out there who can offer help. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:15 | |
Good afternoon, FinderMonkey. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:20 | |
Every time we get to reunite somebody who's lost touch for such | 0:07:20 | 0:07:22 | |
a long period of time, obviously, it's great for us | 0:07:22 | 0:07:25 | |
and it's great to be able to do this kind of work for people. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:28 | |
Brother and sister cases are quite rare compared to parents | 0:07:30 | 0:07:34 | |
trying to find their children, or vice versa. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:36 | |
Especially where there's been no real reason that they've lost | 0:07:36 | 0:07:39 | |
touch other than they've gone their own separate way after growing up. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:43 | |
Anne Ingles has been searching for her brother John for 50 years. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:49 | |
She was born in Scotland and is one of seven children. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:52 | |
I was born in 1939 in a place called Bellshill, Lanarkshire. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:58 | |
Anne's early years in Lanarkshire were idyllic. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:02 | |
Times were good and she got on particularly well | 0:08:02 | 0:08:05 | |
with her brother John. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:06 | |
My brother John is two years younger. It was nice having a younger brother. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:12 | |
But when Anne was five, her parents separated. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:17 | |
They had their personal problems. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:20 | |
So they separated and that was it. We were sort of poor anyway. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:26 | |
My father went away to work, my mother just went out | 0:08:26 | 0:08:29 | |
and left the children. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:31 | |
And some neighbour reported my mother. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:36 | |
That's how we ended up in the home. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:38 | |
Anne and her brother John were sent to live in an unforgiving orphanage. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:42 | |
I used to see him occasionally at school. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:45 | |
I think he was a very shy person, believe it or not. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:48 | |
SHE CHUCKLES | 0:08:48 | 0:08:50 | |
He was. Like me, I was shy. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:52 | |
Segregated by gender, | 0:08:55 | 0:08:56 | |
Anne was with her sisters and hardly ever saw John. | 0:08:56 | 0:08:59 | |
My sisters were in the same sides, my brothers were in a separate side. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:04 | |
But, at 18, Anne, along with what remained of her siblings, | 0:09:04 | 0:09:09 | |
moved back home with her father. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:11 | |
Great relief, to tell you the truth. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:13 | |
We got on together. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:16 | |
Yes, we still had our arguments, like most families. | 0:09:16 | 0:09:20 | |
Anne didn't see her little brother John again | 0:09:23 | 0:09:26 | |
until she got tuberculosis in her 20s. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:28 | |
In 1962, I was in Hairmyres Hospital in East Kilbride because I had TB. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:36 | |
And then John came through with my father to visit. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:39 | |
I mean, seriously, it was good. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:43 | |
You don't get many visitors at a TB hospital, do you? | 0:09:43 | 0:09:46 | |
But, by now, John had completely changed. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:50 | |
Some of the nurses thought he was a film star. A young Rock Hudson. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:56 | |
She said, "Who's the film star?" I said, "It's not a film star, | 0:09:57 | 0:10:00 | |
"it's my brother." The last thing I knew, John was in the Merchant Navy. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:05 | |
And he was a steward on board the Pretoria Castle. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:09 | |
I used to think about him a lot, Christmas, his birthday, | 0:10:09 | 0:10:11 | |
you know, all the time. | 0:10:11 | 0:10:13 | |
Nobody... Never contacted his family after that. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:16 | |
Unable to know how else to look for John, decades passed. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:24 | |
Then, just a few months ago, Anne got a computer. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:27 | |
It was then she realised she could search for John online. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:31 | |
When I got the computer, I went on to the website. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:36 | |
I put my brother's name in. And the last place I ever contacted him. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:42 | |
Anne found a company that searches for lost relatives. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:47 | |
Then I put all my details. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:49 | |
His date of birth and the last place he was, like the Merchant Navy. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:56 | |
Well, they told me they can go on very little information, | 0:10:56 | 0:11:00 | |
even smallest details, they can find people. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:03 | |
The minimum kind of information in a case like this you need is | 0:11:06 | 0:11:10 | |
an approximate age for somebody, ideally a full name, | 0:11:10 | 0:11:13 | |
but if you know the full date of birth and a place of birth | 0:11:13 | 0:11:17 | |
that information's really, really helpful to know, as well. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:20 | |
The information that Anne knew about John was his age, | 0:11:20 | 0:11:23 | |
when he was born, and where he was born, which was really important | 0:11:23 | 0:11:26 | |
because one of the things we like to do whenever | 0:11:26 | 0:11:28 | |
we're trying to find somebody is confirm a birth record for them. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:32 | |
Once we'd done that and confirmed all those details, | 0:11:32 | 0:11:34 | |
we managed to find a match. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:36 | |
Confirmed the address as a current address and then | 0:11:36 | 0:11:38 | |
we knew that we'd found the exact person that Anne was looking for. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:43 | |
When I put the information in, I didn't know how long it was | 0:11:43 | 0:11:46 | |
going to take to find, you know, to do the research. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:50 | |
Then he phoned me, I think it was the next day, he said, | 0:11:50 | 0:11:53 | |
"We've found your brother." And I said, "Are you sure?!" | 0:11:53 | 0:11:57 | |
And he said, "Yes." And then he gave me his home address. | 0:11:57 | 0:12:00 | |
I sent a letter to him. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:03 | |
After an exotic life travelling the world and living away from home, | 0:12:04 | 0:12:09 | |
John was now tracked down in Aldershot in Hampshire. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:11 | |
I found this letter with strange handwriting | 0:12:14 | 0:12:17 | |
which I didn't recognise. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:18 | |
The letter was addressed to me, you know, | 0:12:18 | 0:12:20 | |
so, very curiously, I opened the letter. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:23 | |
So, I started to read the letter. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:28 | |
"Dear John, it has been a long time since we lost touch | 0:12:28 | 0:12:33 | |
"over the years and just about three days ago | 0:12:33 | 0:12:37 | |
"I managed to find you. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:38 | |
"I have never been so delighted in my life. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:44 | |
"Please don't get upset, I have never forgotten you. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:49 | |
"I always wondered where you were. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:52 | |
"It would be so good to hear from you after all this time. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:56 | |
"Lots of love from your sister, Anne." | 0:12:56 | 0:12:58 | |
And it wasn't long before they were chatting on the phone. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:03 | |
I didn't recognise the accent cos it was... | 0:13:03 | 0:13:05 | |
..like a South African accent. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:08 | |
I didn't recognise it. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:11 | |
I said, "Who are you?" He said, "I'm your brother." | 0:13:11 | 0:13:13 | |
I said, "Are you sure?" | 0:13:13 | 0:13:14 | |
SHE CHUCKLES | 0:13:14 | 0:13:15 | |
No, but... | 0:13:15 | 0:13:17 | |
He said, "Yes." | 0:13:17 | 0:13:18 | |
Bit of a shock, actually, receiving the letter out of the blue, | 0:13:18 | 0:13:22 | |
after 53 years. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:24 | |
I just couldn't figure out how they got in touch with me. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:27 | |
But I was really, really pleased. I said, "Oh, good. | 0:13:27 | 0:13:31 | |
"Now I've got a family here." | 0:13:31 | 0:13:33 | |
But reconnecting with his sister brought back difficult memories | 0:13:33 | 0:13:37 | |
around being put into care in the late 1940s. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:40 | |
When I was put in the orphanage, rejection, you know, | 0:13:40 | 0:13:44 | |
I saw it as rejection from my mum and my dad. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:49 | |
I never held it against them, you know what I mean, | 0:13:49 | 0:13:52 | |
but that's how I felt. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:53 | |
Just like his sister Anne, | 0:13:55 | 0:13:57 | |
John remembers being kept apart | 0:13:57 | 0:13:58 | |
while they were at the same orphanage. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:00 | |
It was very difficult knowing that my sister particularly was so close | 0:14:01 | 0:14:06 | |
and you hardly ever saw them. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:08 | |
The only time, possibly, you could see them | 0:14:08 | 0:14:10 | |
was when you went off to church on a Sunday, it was the only time. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:15 | |
At 21, he left Britain for a life of adventure | 0:14:15 | 0:14:20 | |
in the merchant navy. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:22 | |
John now lives on his own, so Anne's letter was a welcome surprise. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:29 | |
When I received that letter, | 0:14:29 | 0:14:31 | |
I thought, "At last! Now, I've got a family." | 0:14:31 | 0:14:35 | |
They can love me, which would be good. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:37 | |
It's when she says in the letter | 0:14:37 | 0:14:39 | |
that they'd tried for so long to find me, | 0:14:39 | 0:14:43 | |
it shows a love, you know? | 0:14:43 | 0:14:45 | |
I was very pleased with that. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:48 | |
The last time I saw Anne was 1962. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:51 | |
Anne and John have now arranged to meet up | 0:14:51 | 0:14:54 | |
for the first time in 53 years. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:57 | |
Very nervous and I'm not quite sure, when I do meet her, | 0:14:57 | 0:15:03 | |
if I'm going to cry or not. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:05 | |
When Geraldine Turner was a teenager, | 0:15:11 | 0:15:14 | |
she lived in West Yorkshire | 0:15:14 | 0:15:15 | |
and helped bring up her younger half-brothers and sister, | 0:15:15 | 0:15:18 | |
Joanne, Mark and John. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:22 | |
There were six of us in a one-up-one-down. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:24 | |
I mean, I used to feed them, bathe them, change them, | 0:15:24 | 0:15:29 | |
take them out, do things with them, | 0:15:29 | 0:15:32 | |
but we were happy. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:33 | |
After they were all orphaned as children, | 0:15:34 | 0:15:36 | |
Geraldine lost touch, | 0:15:36 | 0:15:38 | |
but in her 60s, she's found a way to find them again. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:41 | |
I heard about the Salvation Army Family Tracing Service | 0:15:43 | 0:15:47 | |
through somebody who'd also used them. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:49 | |
I thought, "Yes, I must do it, I must contact them." | 0:15:50 | 0:15:53 | |
They must have the childhood photos back. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:56 | |
I've got their childhood memories | 0:15:56 | 0:15:58 | |
and I want them to have them back. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:00 | |
The Salvation Army have more than 100 years of experience | 0:16:01 | 0:16:05 | |
reuniting families. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:07 | |
Good afternoon, Family Tracing, how can I help? | 0:16:07 | 0:16:09 | |
The Family Tracing Service | 0:16:09 | 0:16:11 | |
uses public and less easily accessible data | 0:16:11 | 0:16:14 | |
to find people and calls upon partner agencies when it needs help. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:20 | |
Geraldine asked us to look for Mark, | 0:16:20 | 0:16:21 | |
which was the eldest of the three siblings, | 0:16:21 | 0:16:24 | |
so she gave us the information to get that enquiry started. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:28 | |
It didn't take them long to find a Mark Wilkinson, | 0:16:29 | 0:16:32 | |
who could have been Geraldine's half-brother | 0:16:32 | 0:16:34 | |
and they sent him a letter of introduction. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:38 | |
Mark responded to the letter. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:40 | |
He phoned the office and he was identified with his name | 0:16:40 | 0:16:43 | |
and date of birth. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:45 | |
He was quite shocked that we'd been looking for him, | 0:16:45 | 0:16:47 | |
cos he explained to us that he'd also been looking for Geraldine | 0:16:47 | 0:16:50 | |
at the same time. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:52 | |
It was an amazingly rare coincidence. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:56 | |
As if drawn together, | 0:16:56 | 0:16:58 | |
Mark and Geraldine had applied to the Salvation Army | 0:16:58 | 0:17:01 | |
at more or less the same time | 0:17:01 | 0:17:03 | |
and their details were just waiting to be paired up. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:06 | |
That can obviously make our job a lot easier, | 0:17:07 | 0:17:09 | |
because we would have their details on our system, | 0:17:09 | 0:17:12 | |
so unbeknown to them, | 0:17:12 | 0:17:13 | |
we already have the information of the person that they're looking for. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:16 | |
After more than 20 years of no contact with Mark, | 0:17:17 | 0:17:21 | |
it was a moment Geraldine had waited a long time for. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:24 | |
It was really very, very emotional. I cried. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:29 | |
I cried, I think, tears of... | 0:17:30 | 0:17:33 | |
happiness, because they'd found him. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:35 | |
Very emotional to think they'd done it | 0:17:35 | 0:17:38 | |
and I couldn't wait to ring him up and speak to him. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:41 | |
As it turns out, Mark now had a family of his own | 0:17:50 | 0:17:53 | |
and was living on the south coast in Bournemouth. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:56 | |
It was massive relief to think, "Oh, my God, my sister's found me." | 0:17:57 | 0:18:01 | |
This is the start of my family again. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
Mark shared his childhood with Geraldine in West Yorkshire. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:13 | |
I was born in 1961 in a place called Brighouse, | 0:18:15 | 0:18:19 | |
which is West Yorkshire. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:21 | |
I lived in a little village called Shelf. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:23 | |
Me, my younger brother, younger sister | 0:18:24 | 0:18:27 | |
and my older stepsister. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:29 | |
Mark's half-sister Geraldine was 11 years older than him. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:34 | |
I've always called her my big sister, but she's my half-sister. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:38 | |
Basically, she brought me up. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:40 | |
Sometimes, she didn't think she had a life, | 0:18:40 | 0:18:42 | |
because she was always with us. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:45 | |
But family life changed dramatically when Mark was 14 | 0:18:45 | 0:18:50 | |
and his dad, Bill, died in his early 50s. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:52 | |
We were all upset | 0:18:54 | 0:18:56 | |
and having to know you've got to go the rest of your life without a dad | 0:18:56 | 0:18:59 | |
was quite hard at the time, but obviously, | 0:18:59 | 0:19:01 | |
it's something you've got to get over, really, | 0:19:01 | 0:19:04 | |
cos life's got to go on, | 0:19:04 | 0:19:06 | |
so we just went back to school. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:10 | |
Mum... Mum met somebody else. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:14 | |
They were planning on getting married, then my mum died. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:18 | |
With both parents gone within a few years of each other, | 0:19:21 | 0:19:24 | |
Mark faced an uncertain future at the age of 16. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:27 | |
A huge, huge shock. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:30 | |
When your dad dies, that's your dad, | 0:19:30 | 0:19:32 | |
but when your mum dies, it's different. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:34 | |
It hit me quite hard. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:38 | |
Mark turned to the only solid relationship he had left, | 0:19:38 | 0:19:41 | |
his sister Geraldine, | 0:19:41 | 0:19:43 | |
but he didn't end up staying long. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:45 | |
We were in town one day and we just literally walked past | 0:19:46 | 0:19:50 | |
the army careers and I says, "I want to do that." | 0:19:50 | 0:19:54 | |
She went, "What?" I said, "I want to do that, I want to join the army. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:57 | |
"I want a change of life." | 0:19:57 | 0:20:00 | |
HE BARKS ORDERS | 0:20:00 | 0:20:01 | |
Left! Right! Left! Right! Left! | 0:20:01 | 0:20:04 | |
At the age of 16, Mark wasn't used to such a regimented life. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:08 | |
That was a reality check, you know. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:10 | |
Welcome to the world of the British Army. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:13 | |
Basic training in the army is 18 weeks of hell. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:17 | |
Mark passed with flying colours | 0:20:19 | 0:20:22 | |
and was soon travelling the world. | 0:20:22 | 0:20:24 | |
But Mark witnessed some traumatic events | 0:20:24 | 0:20:27 | |
he's not comfortable talking about. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:30 | |
It left him a broken man, disillusioned with military life. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:33 | |
Basically, that was it. I just went off. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:39 | |
Just went off on one. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:40 | |
I wasn't set for it any more. I wasn't in the right frame of mind. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:45 | |
I just went AWOL. | 0:20:45 | 0:20:47 | |
Mark was absent without leave for almost a year. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:53 | |
Eventually, I got caught. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:56 | |
Got taken back to Catterick. | 0:20:57 | 0:20:59 | |
Um... | 0:20:59 | 0:21:01 | |
..got discharged. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:03 | |
Mark moved to London, where he met Debbie, | 0:21:05 | 0:21:07 | |
and started a family of his own. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:09 | |
But as Mark hit 50, he felt ready to reconnect with his long-lost sister. | 0:21:09 | 0:21:15 | |
I don't know why, but I just thought to myself, | 0:21:15 | 0:21:20 | |
"I want to find my family." | 0:21:20 | 0:21:22 | |
The Salvation Army came up with friends and family tracing. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:28 | |
I thought, "Oh, that sounds pretty... | 0:21:28 | 0:21:30 | |
"Let me give them a ring." | 0:21:30 | 0:21:32 | |
Mark's enquiry to the Salvation Army's Family Tracing Service | 0:21:32 | 0:21:37 | |
coincided with Geraldine's, | 0:21:37 | 0:21:39 | |
as if they knew they were looking for each other. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:43 | |
The first letter, I was shocked, | 0:21:43 | 0:21:46 | |
to think, "My God, she's found me after all these years." | 0:21:46 | 0:21:51 | |
When I got the letter, I actually cried. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:54 | |
I think it was just the rush of emotion, "We've actually found him." | 0:21:55 | 0:21:58 | |
Nothing in this world will split us up. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:01 | |
We will never, ever be apart that long again. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:06 | |
Mark has met up with Geraldine a few times since they found each other, | 0:22:10 | 0:22:14 | |
but today, Geraldine's in Bournemouth with her partner Mike | 0:22:14 | 0:22:17 | |
after a big gap since last seeing her brother. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:20 | |
I've been looking forward to seeing him again, | 0:22:21 | 0:22:24 | |
cos we haven't seen him for, oh, just over two years. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:26 | |
It'll be really, really nice to have a get-together. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:32 | |
-Hi! -Aww! | 0:22:32 | 0:22:34 | |
-Oh, lovely to see you. -God, it's great to see you, Sis. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:37 | |
The family bond is as close now as it was 30 years ago. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:42 | |
You'll have me crying in a minute, you know. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:44 | |
-Well... -You realise that? -..that's families! | 0:22:44 | 0:22:47 | |
I'm bigger than you as well, look. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:49 | |
Only cos you're on a step. Get down, that's it. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:52 | |
-Oh, it's great to see you. -You chump! | 0:22:52 | 0:22:55 | |
For Mark, it's a chance to show his big sister | 0:22:55 | 0:22:58 | |
how he's turned his life around. | 0:22:58 | 0:22:59 | |
Anne Ingles and her brother John are on their way to meet each other | 0:23:09 | 0:23:13 | |
after more than 50 years apart. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:15 | |
Anne's made the 500-mile journey from Fort William in Scotland | 0:23:18 | 0:23:22 | |
to John's home town of Aldershot. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:24 | |
You never know until you actually meet | 0:23:29 | 0:23:31 | |
what's going to happen and what's not. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:34 | |
I'm looking forward to it. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:37 | |
It's a long time. It's a long time since I've seen him. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
I do think I'll recognise her as soon as I see her. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:43 | |
I will recognise her. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:45 | |
I hope! | 0:23:46 | 0:23:48 | |
It's hard to believe the years have just gone, you know. | 0:23:54 | 0:23:59 | |
They're about to lay eyes on each other | 0:24:04 | 0:24:07 | |
for the first time in over 50 years. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:09 | |
-Hello. -How are you? -Fine! | 0:24:13 | 0:24:17 | |
Nice to see you, stranger. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:19 | |
-Are you OK? -Yeah, I'm fine. | 0:24:19 | 0:24:21 | |
-A little something. -Thank you. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:23 | |
And Anne's got a very Scottish gift | 0:24:26 | 0:24:28 | |
for a man who's been away from his homeland for so long. | 0:24:28 | 0:24:31 | |
Here's a little present for you. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:34 | |
-Thank you. -I hope you like... | 0:24:34 | 0:24:36 | |
-It's marmalade. -Excellent, thanks, Anne. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:40 | |
After being apart for 53 years, to finally be reunited means a lot. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:47 | |
-1962 was the last time we saw each other. -That's right. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:50 | |
We were all together. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:51 | |
It's different, talking on the phone to face to face. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:56 | |
You don't realise how the years have just gone by, isn't it? | 0:24:56 | 0:25:00 | |
Still that handsome, am I? | 0:25:00 | 0:25:02 | |
I'm not making any comment. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:05 | |
Now Anne and John are back together, | 0:25:08 | 0:25:10 | |
meeting up with the extended family is the next priority. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:13 | |
I mean, I'm glad to see him after such a long time | 0:25:16 | 0:25:19 | |
and to have to talk to him, rather than on the phone. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:23 | |
His hug was stronger than mine. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:25 | |
I think he was more glad to see me. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:27 | |
Oh, I'm really pleased to get my brother back, definitely. | 0:25:27 | 0:25:30 | |
It's nice to get my brother back at last. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:33 | |
Been away too long. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:35 | |
Geraldine Turner spent much of her childhood in the '60s | 0:25:43 | 0:25:46 | |
looking after her half-brothers Mark and John | 0:25:46 | 0:25:49 | |
and sister Joanne near Halifax. | 0:25:49 | 0:25:51 | |
But after Geraldine moved away, she lost touch with them all, | 0:25:52 | 0:25:56 | |
until three years ago, when she found Mark. | 0:25:56 | 0:25:59 | |
Sadly, Mark's sister Joanne died a few years ago | 0:26:00 | 0:26:03 | |
and he doesn't see his brother John as much as he'd like. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:06 | |
-Hey! -Hi! | 0:26:08 | 0:26:10 | |
-Aww! -Oh! It's lovely to see you. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:12 | |
God, it's great to see you, Sis. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:14 | |
But Mark and Geraldine are inseparable. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:16 | |
Mark and his wife Debbie have been together for 30 years | 0:26:20 | 0:26:23 | |
and today, they want to show Geraldine and Mike | 0:26:23 | 0:26:26 | |
the delights of Bournemouth with granddaughter Elisa. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:29 | |
How about having a go on the carousel? | 0:26:29 | 0:26:31 | |
Yeah, as long as it's not fast. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:33 | |
Whoa-oa-oa! | 0:26:34 | 0:26:38 | |
Just to see how much they actually look alike and their mannerisms | 0:26:38 | 0:26:42 | |
and little things that they do and I'll go, "Mark does that. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:46 | |
"Mark does this. Oh, Mark does that too!" | 0:26:46 | 0:26:48 | |
Can you remember when you were a child, when I used to take you | 0:26:48 | 0:26:51 | |
on the rides at Bridlington? I had to go, whether I wanted to or not. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:55 | |
It's like one of them photos, when I'm in the pushchair. | 0:26:57 | 0:26:59 | |
That were when he was cute. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:02 | |
Oh, yeah, thank you very much! | 0:27:02 | 0:27:04 | |
I found a sister. It's like 30 years have just melted away. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:09 | |
It's family occasions like this that mean so much to Mark, | 0:27:13 | 0:27:16 | |
after circumstances kept them apart for so long. | 0:27:16 | 0:27:20 | |
I was really pleased when I found you and you told me about Deb, | 0:27:20 | 0:27:27 | |
your wife, and how long you'd been married. | 0:27:27 | 0:27:30 | |
That's part of life. I just had to turn my life around and... | 0:27:30 | 0:27:33 | |
..focus on things and just get myself back on track, | 0:27:35 | 0:27:39 | |
-which I have done. -You did. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:41 | |
-You've got a job, a good job. -Yeah, I've got a good job. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:43 | |
-Lovely, loving family. -Yeah, I wouldn't be here without my family. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:46 | |
And you've got me back in your life. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:48 | |
And there's you back in my life. | 0:27:48 | 0:27:50 | |
Oh, what have I done wrong(!) | 0:27:50 | 0:27:52 | |
I don't know! | 0:27:52 | 0:27:53 | |
It's like closure. | 0:27:56 | 0:27:58 | |
It's something that's been brought together | 0:27:58 | 0:28:01 | |
and that bond won't be broken again. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:04 | |
It's been absolutely fantastic seeing Mark again | 0:28:04 | 0:28:07 | |
and I can't wait for the next time we meet up. | 0:28:07 | 0:28:10 | |
-What have we done wrong? What have we...? -Hey! | 0:28:10 | 0:28:12 | |
Go and give us a cuddle. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:15 |