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Families can be driven apart for all manner of reasons.

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My mum went away and didn't come back.

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And when you do lose touch with your loved ones...

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I never saw Kathleen again.

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..finding them can take a lifetime.

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Wonder where he is, I wonder what he's doing.

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You don't really know where to begin.

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Especially when they could be anywhere, at home or abroad.

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And that's where the family finders come in.

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Hi, it's the Salvation Army Family Tracing Service.

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From international organisations...

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There's never been a day when we have never had new enquiries.

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..to genealogy detective agencies...

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When is it you last had contact with him?

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..and dedicated one-man bands.

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I like to do the searches that other people can't get

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cos it makes me feel good.

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They hunt through history

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to bring families back together again.

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"You are my biological dad."

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In this series, we follow the work of the family finders.

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This case came from our Australian colleagues.

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Learning the tricks they use to track missing relatives through time.

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I'm 68 years of age, she's 75 years of age and we're just starting off.

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And meeting the people whose lives they change along the way.

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I said, "Well, this is your younger sister."

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It's a miracle.

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I was struck speechless and I couldn't stop crying.

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It's a proud moment for Dad.

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That was the start of finding my family.

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Across Britain, brothers, sisters, mothers

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and fathers can lose touch with each other.

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For all sorts of reasons, from death to divorce to geography,

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people drift apart.

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But sometimes fate can draw a family together.

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It's often the case that two people can approach us

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looking for each other, unbeknown to each other, as well.

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And that can make our job much easier because we have the details

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of that person on our systems

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so it's often a race to find each other.

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Geraldine Turner was born in Halifax in 1950 and spent much

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of her childhood in rural Yorkshire with her parents and grandparents.

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There was no running hot water.

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No heating, only gas mantles, no electric.

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Grandad used to have an accumulator for his radio.

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And woe and betide anybody who tried to listen to any pop music

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on his radio. It was there for the football results and for his racing.

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And that was it.

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But when she was around seven years old, her father walked out.

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Her mum, Violet, got on with life

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and met Bill, who became Geraldine's new stepdad.

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It wasn't long before she had two new baby brothers, Mark and John,

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and a little sister, Joanne.

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They lived in a small house in Coley in Yorkshire.

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Geraldine was 11 years older

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and like a surrogate mum to her younger siblings.

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There were six of us in a one-up one-down.

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But we were happy.

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I used to feed them, bathe them, change them,

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take them out, do things with them, babysit for Mum and my stepdad

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when they wanted to go out.

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So, yeah, it was very happy and that's...

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They were content with me. We just loved each other.

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Looking through all these photos, at the happy times that we

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actually had when we were all together, there's some really,

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really, really nice ones.

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And one of my favourites, I think, is the one with my mum and me

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and Mark at his christening. That just shows how happy times were.

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We used to go down the woods and they would play in the beck.

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Tiddler fishing, there, I think.

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I think that's what was going on in that one.

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And, then, we'd go on holiday to Bridlington.

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And I've got one of Mark here with me and his dad.

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Mind you, I used to have to hold him when they went on the donkeys

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and I used to have to go on the rides with him and things like that.

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But, yeah, it was happy times. That's Mum and my stepdad.

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We didn't have a lot of money but we got by.

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I think Mum did the best she could with what she had.

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Eventually, Geraldine was able to leave the family home and,

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in her early 20s, she got married and went to live in Scotland.

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But soon after Geraldine left, her stepdad, Bill, died,

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swiftly followed by her mum, Violet.

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For the oldest child, Mark, there was

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suddenly the pressure of responsibility.

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Mark, 16-year-old, and he's lost both his mum and his dad.

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His sister being 14 and John, the youngest, being 12.

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And their lifeline's just been wiped out completely.

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But for them...

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..Mum and Dad had gone. That was it.

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So, then, they're relying on relatives to look after them.

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With her half-siblings orphaned, Geraldine felt she should take

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them in. But with a new family of her own,

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things weren't that simple.

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I did want to take them on, very much so,

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but I was 27 and, in a lot of ways, I was quite naive.

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You always get, as you get older, you think, "Yes,

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"I would have done it different."

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And I wished I could have done it different.

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But the problem is that now I think to myself,

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"I can't have regrets, because that will tear me apart."

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Geraldine did manage to stay in contact with her eldest brother, Mark.

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He joined the Army and she used to write to him

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until a terrible piece of bad luck brought contact to an abrupt halt.

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One day, when I went to work, I had my purse pinched.

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And in my purse was Mark's address. So, that was it.

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I'd lost all contact with him

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because I hadn't written it down anywhere else.

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So, that was Mark just out of my life at that stage.

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So, I did wonder over the years what could have happened.

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Geraldine ended up losing touch with Mark and, for 30 years,

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she had no idea where he was or what he was up to.

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So, Mark, in the meantime, hadn't thought to get in touch with me

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where I was.

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Perhaps he was waiting for me to write to him, or something.

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Then I moved, so then I think that's how we lost contact completely.

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Little did she know the reasons her little brother was so elusive

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were both stressful and traumatic.

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Searching for lost relatives who've been missing for years

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can seem like an impossible task for an individual to take on.

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But there are plenty of people-finding organisations

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out there who can offer help.

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Good afternoon, FinderMonkey.

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Every time we get to reunite somebody who's lost touch for such

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a long period of time, obviously, it's great for us

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and it's great to be able to do this kind of work for people.

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Brother and sister cases are quite rare compared to parents

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trying to find their children, or vice versa.

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Especially where there's been no real reason that they've lost

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touch other than they've gone their own separate way after growing up.

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Anne Ingles has been searching for her brother John for 50 years.

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She was born in Scotland and is one of seven children.

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I was born in 1939 in a place called Bellshill, Lanarkshire.

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Anne's early years in Lanarkshire were idyllic.

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Times were good and she got on particularly well

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with her brother John.

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My brother John is two years younger. It was nice having a younger brother.

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But when Anne was five, her parents separated.

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They had their personal problems.

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So they separated and that was it. We were sort of poor anyway.

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My father went away to work, my mother just went out

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and left the children.

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And some neighbour reported my mother.

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That's how we ended up in the home.

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Anne and her brother John were sent to live in an unforgiving orphanage.

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I used to see him occasionally at school.

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I think he was a very shy person, believe it or not.

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SHE CHUCKLES

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He was. Like me, I was shy.

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Segregated by gender,

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Anne was with her sisters and hardly ever saw John.

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My sisters were in the same sides, my brothers were in a separate side.

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But, at 18, Anne, along with what remained of her siblings,

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moved back home with her father.

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Great relief, to tell you the truth.

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We got on together.

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Yes, we still had our arguments, like most families.

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Anne didn't see her little brother John again

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until she got tuberculosis in her 20s.

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In 1962, I was in Hairmyres Hospital in East Kilbride because I had TB.

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And then John came through with my father to visit.

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I mean, seriously, it was good.

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You don't get many visitors at a TB hospital, do you?

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But, by now, John had completely changed.

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Some of the nurses thought he was a film star. A young Rock Hudson.

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She said, "Who's the film star?" I said, "It's not a film star,

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"it's my brother." The last thing I knew, John was in the Merchant Navy.

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And he was a steward on board the Pretoria Castle.

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I used to think about him a lot, Christmas, his birthday,

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you know, all the time.

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Nobody... Never contacted his family after that.

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Unable to know how else to look for John, decades passed.

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Then, just a few months ago, Anne got a computer.

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It was then she realised she could search for John online.

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When I got the computer, I went on to the website.

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I put my brother's name in. And the last place I ever contacted him.

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Anne found a company that searches for lost relatives.

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Then I put all my details.

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His date of birth and the last place he was, like the Merchant Navy.

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Well, they told me they can go on very little information,

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even smallest details, they can find people.

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The minimum kind of information in a case like this you need is

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an approximate age for somebody, ideally a full name,

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but if you know the full date of birth and a place of birth

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that information's really, really helpful to know, as well.

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The information that Anne knew about John was his age,

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when he was born, and where he was born, which was really important

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because one of the things we like to do whenever

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we're trying to find somebody is confirm a birth record for them.

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Once we'd done that and confirmed all those details,

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we managed to find a match.

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Confirmed the address as a current address and then

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we knew that we'd found the exact person that Anne was looking for.

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When I put the information in, I didn't know how long it was

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going to take to find, you know, to do the research.

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Then he phoned me, I think it was the next day, he said,

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"We've found your brother." And I said, "Are you sure?!"

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And he said, "Yes." And then he gave me his home address.

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I sent a letter to him.

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After an exotic life travelling the world and living away from home,

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John was now tracked down in Aldershot in Hampshire.

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I found this letter with strange handwriting

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which I didn't recognise.

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The letter was addressed to me, you know,

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so, very curiously, I opened the letter.

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So, I started to read the letter.

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"Dear John, it has been a long time since we lost touch

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"over the years and just about three days ago

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"I managed to find you.

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"I have never been so delighted in my life.

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"Please don't get upset, I have never forgotten you.

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"I always wondered where you were.

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"It would be so good to hear from you after all this time.

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"Lots of love from your sister, Anne."

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And it wasn't long before they were chatting on the phone.

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I didn't recognise the accent cos it was...

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..like a South African accent.

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I didn't recognise it.

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I said, "Who are you?" He said, "I'm your brother."

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I said, "Are you sure?"

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SHE CHUCKLES

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No, but...

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He said, "Yes."

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Bit of a shock, actually, receiving the letter out of the blue,

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after 53 years.

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I just couldn't figure out how they got in touch with me.

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But I was really, really pleased. I said, "Oh, good.

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"Now I've got a family here."

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But reconnecting with his sister brought back difficult memories

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around being put into care in the late 1940s.

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When I was put in the orphanage, rejection, you know,

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I saw it as rejection from my mum and my dad.

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I never held it against them, you know what I mean,

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but that's how I felt.

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Just like his sister Anne,

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John remembers being kept apart

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while they were at the same orphanage.

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It was very difficult knowing that my sister particularly was so close

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and you hardly ever saw them.

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The only time, possibly, you could see them

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was when you went off to church on a Sunday, it was the only time.

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At 21, he left Britain for a life of adventure

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in the merchant navy.

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John now lives on his own, so Anne's letter was a welcome surprise.

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When I received that letter,

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I thought, "At last! Now, I've got a family."

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They can love me, which would be good.

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It's when she says in the letter

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that they'd tried for so long to find me,

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it shows a love, you know?

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I was very pleased with that.

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The last time I saw Anne was 1962.

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Anne and John have now arranged to meet up

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for the first time in 53 years.

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Very nervous and I'm not quite sure, when I do meet her,

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if I'm going to cry or not.

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When Geraldine Turner was a teenager,

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she lived in West Yorkshire

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and helped bring up her younger half-brothers and sister,

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Joanne, Mark and John.

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There were six of us in a one-up-one-down.

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I mean, I used to feed them, bathe them, change them,

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take them out, do things with them,

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but we were happy.

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After they were all orphaned as children,

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Geraldine lost touch,

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but in her 60s, she's found a way to find them again.

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I heard about the Salvation Army Family Tracing Service

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through somebody who'd also used them.

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I thought, "Yes, I must do it, I must contact them."

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They must have the childhood photos back.

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I've got their childhood memories

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and I want them to have them back.

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The Salvation Army have more than 100 years of experience

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reuniting families.

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Good afternoon, Family Tracing, how can I help?

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The Family Tracing Service

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uses public and less easily accessible data

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to find people and calls upon partner agencies when it needs help.

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Geraldine asked us to look for Mark,

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which was the eldest of the three siblings,

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so she gave us the information to get that enquiry started.

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It didn't take them long to find a Mark Wilkinson,

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who could have been Geraldine's half-brother

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and they sent him a letter of introduction.

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Mark responded to the letter.

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He phoned the office and he was identified with his name

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and date of birth.

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He was quite shocked that we'd been looking for him,

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cos he explained to us that he'd also been looking for Geraldine

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at the same time.

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It was an amazingly rare coincidence.

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As if drawn together,

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Mark and Geraldine had applied to the Salvation Army

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at more or less the same time

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and their details were just waiting to be paired up.

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That can obviously make our job a lot easier,

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because we would have their details on our system,

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so unbeknown to them,

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we already have the information of the person that they're looking for.

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After more than 20 years of no contact with Mark,

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it was a moment Geraldine had waited a long time for.

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It was really very, very emotional. I cried.

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I cried, I think, tears of...

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happiness, because they'd found him.

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Very emotional to think they'd done it

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and I couldn't wait to ring him up and speak to him.

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As it turns out, Mark now had a family of his own

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and was living on the south coast in Bournemouth.

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It was massive relief to think, "Oh, my God, my sister's found me."

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This is the start of my family again.

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Mark shared his childhood with Geraldine in West Yorkshire.

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I was born in 1961 in a place called Brighouse,

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which is West Yorkshire.

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I lived in a little village called Shelf.

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Me, my younger brother, younger sister

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and my older stepsister.

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Mark's half-sister Geraldine was 11 years older than him.

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I've always called her my big sister, but she's my half-sister.

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Basically, she brought me up.

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Sometimes, she didn't think she had a life,

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because she was always with us.

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But family life changed dramatically when Mark was 14

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and his dad, Bill, died in his early 50s.

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We were all upset

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and having to know you've got to go the rest of your life without a dad

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was quite hard at the time, but obviously,

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it's something you've got to get over, really,

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cos life's got to go on,

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so we just went back to school.

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Mum... Mum met somebody else.

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They were planning on getting married, then my mum died.

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With both parents gone within a few years of each other,

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Mark faced an uncertain future at the age of 16.

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A huge, huge shock.

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When your dad dies, that's your dad,

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but when your mum dies, it's different.

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It hit me quite hard.

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Mark turned to the only solid relationship he had left,

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his sister Geraldine,

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but he didn't end up staying long.

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We were in town one day and we just literally walked past

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the army careers and I says, "I want to do that."

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She went, "What?" I said, "I want to do that, I want to join the army.

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"I want a change of life."

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HE BARKS ORDERS

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Left! Right! Left! Right! Left!

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At the age of 16, Mark wasn't used to such a regimented life.

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That was a reality check, you know.

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Welcome to the world of the British Army.

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Basic training in the army is 18 weeks of hell.

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Mark passed with flying colours

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and was soon travelling the world.

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But Mark witnessed some traumatic events

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he's not comfortable talking about.

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It left him a broken man, disillusioned with military life.

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Basically, that was it. I just went off.

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Just went off on one.

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I wasn't set for it any more. I wasn't in the right frame of mind.

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I just went AWOL.

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Mark was absent without leave for almost a year.

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Eventually, I got caught.

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Got taken back to Catterick.

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Um...

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..got discharged.

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Mark moved to London, where he met Debbie,

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and started a family of his own.

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But as Mark hit 50, he felt ready to reconnect with his long-lost sister.

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I don't know why, but I just thought to myself,

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"I want to find my family."

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The Salvation Army came up with friends and family tracing.

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I thought, "Oh, that sounds pretty...

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"Let me give them a ring."

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Mark's enquiry to the Salvation Army's Family Tracing Service

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coincided with Geraldine's,

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as if they knew they were looking for each other.

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The first letter, I was shocked,

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to think, "My God, she's found me after all these years."

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When I got the letter, I actually cried.

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I think it was just the rush of emotion, "We've actually found him."

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Nothing in this world will split us up.

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We will never, ever be apart that long again.

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Mark has met up with Geraldine a few times since they found each other,

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but today, Geraldine's in Bournemouth with her partner Mike

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after a big gap since last seeing her brother.

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I've been looking forward to seeing him again,

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cos we haven't seen him for, oh, just over two years.

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It'll be really, really nice to have a get-together.

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-Hi!

-Aww!

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-Oh, lovely to see you.

-God, it's great to see you, Sis.

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The family bond is as close now as it was 30 years ago.

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You'll have me crying in a minute, you know.

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-Well...

-You realise that?

-..that's families!

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I'm bigger than you as well, look.

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Only cos you're on a step. Get down, that's it.

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-Oh, it's great to see you.

-You chump!

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For Mark, it's a chance to show his big sister

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how he's turned his life around.

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Anne Ingles and her brother John are on their way to meet each other

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after more than 50 years apart.

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Anne's made the 500-mile journey from Fort William in Scotland

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to John's home town of Aldershot.

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You never know until you actually meet

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what's going to happen and what's not.

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I'm looking forward to it.

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It's a long time. It's a long time since I've seen him.

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I do think I'll recognise her as soon as I see her.

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I will recognise her.

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I hope!

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It's hard to believe the years have just gone, you know.

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They're about to lay eyes on each other

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for the first time in over 50 years.

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-Hello.

-How are you?

-Fine!

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Nice to see you, stranger.

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-Are you OK?

-Yeah, I'm fine.

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-A little something.

-Thank you.

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And Anne's got a very Scottish gift

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for a man who's been away from his homeland for so long.

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Here's a little present for you.

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-Thank you.

-I hope you like...

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-It's marmalade.

-Excellent, thanks, Anne.

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After being apart for 53 years, to finally be reunited means a lot.

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-1962 was the last time we saw each other.

-That's right.

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We were all together.

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It's different, talking on the phone to face to face.

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You don't realise how the years have just gone by, isn't it?

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Still that handsome, am I?

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I'm not making any comment.

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Now Anne and John are back together,

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meeting up with the extended family is the next priority.

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I mean, I'm glad to see him after such a long time

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and to have to talk to him, rather than on the phone.

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His hug was stronger than mine.

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I think he was more glad to see me.

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Oh, I'm really pleased to get my brother back, definitely.

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It's nice to get my brother back at last.

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Been away too long.

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Geraldine Turner spent much of her childhood in the '60s

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looking after her half-brothers Mark and John

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and sister Joanne near Halifax.

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But after Geraldine moved away, she lost touch with them all,

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until three years ago, when she found Mark.

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Sadly, Mark's sister Joanne died a few years ago

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and he doesn't see his brother John as much as he'd like.

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-Hey!

-Hi!

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-Aww!

-Oh! It's lovely to see you.

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God, it's great to see you, Sis.

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But Mark and Geraldine are inseparable.

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Mark and his wife Debbie have been together for 30 years

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and today, they want to show Geraldine and Mike

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the delights of Bournemouth with granddaughter Elisa.

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How about having a go on the carousel?

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Yeah, as long as it's not fast.

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Whoa-oa-oa!

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Just to see how much they actually look alike and their mannerisms

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and little things that they do and I'll go, "Mark does that.

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"Mark does this. Oh, Mark does that too!"

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Can you remember when you were a child, when I used to take you

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on the rides at Bridlington? I had to go, whether I wanted to or not.

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It's like one of them photos, when I'm in the pushchair.

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That were when he was cute.

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Oh, yeah, thank you very much!

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I found a sister. It's like 30 years have just melted away.

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It's family occasions like this that mean so much to Mark,

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after circumstances kept them apart for so long.

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I was really pleased when I found you and you told me about Deb,

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your wife, and how long you'd been married.

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That's part of life. I just had to turn my life around and...

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..focus on things and just get myself back on track,

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-which I have done.

-You did.

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-You've got a job, a good job.

-Yeah, I've got a good job.

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-Lovely, loving family.

-Yeah, I wouldn't be here without my family.

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And you've got me back in your life.

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And there's you back in my life.

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Oh, what have I done wrong(!)

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I don't know!

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It's like closure.

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It's something that's been brought together

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and that bond won't be broken again.

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It's been absolutely fantastic seeing Mark again

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and I can't wait for the next time we meet up.

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-What have we done wrong? What have we...?

-Hey!

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Go and give us a cuddle.

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