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Families can be driven apart for all manner of reasons.

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My mum went away and didn't come back.

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And when you do lose touch with your loved ones...

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I never saw Kathleen again.

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..finding them can take a lifetime.

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I wonder where he is. I wonder what he's doing.

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You don't really know where to begin.

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Especially when they could be anywhere - at home or abroad.

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And that's where the Family Finders come in.

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Hi, it's the Salvation Army Family Tracing Service.

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From international organisations...

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There's never been a day when we have never had new enquiries.

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..to genealogy detective agencies...

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When is it you last had contact with him?

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..and dedicated one-man bands.

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I like to do searches that other people can't get,

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cos it makes me feel good.

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They hunt through history to bring families back together again.

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You are my biological dad.

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In this series, we follow the work of the Family Finders...

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This case came from our Australian colleagues.

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..learning the tricks they use

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to track missing relatives through time...

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I'm 68 years of age, she's 75 years of age, and we're just starting off.

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..and meeting the people whose lives they change along the way.

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I said, "Well, this is your younger sister."

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It's a miracle.

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I was struck speechless, and I couldn't stop crying.

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It's a proud moment with Dad.

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That was the start of finding my family.

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Across Britain, there are dozens of specialist agencies

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who reunite people with their families.

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The biggest one is the Salvation Army

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who, for a small fee, trace over 2,000 people a year.

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Good afternoon, Salvation Army. Can I help you?

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Along with all their other work, the Salvation Army

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has been reuniting families for over 130 years.

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All our caseworkers are currently working on over 200,

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nearly 250 cases live, presently.

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There's never been a day when we have never had new enquiries.

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And this organisation has a huge global presence,

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with branches in 126 countries,

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so very often, the Salvation Army Family Finders

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reunite people from different sides of the world.

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When did you last see him there?

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One such person in need of their help is 80-year-old Violet Rossini,

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who's lived in Australia for nearly 50 years.

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When she was around five years old,

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Violet and her older sister, Kathleen,

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were placed into care in Lincolnshire.

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I was told my mother died when I was born. Erm...

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We were taken into the children's homes

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and then I was fostered out and Kathleen was adopted, I believe.

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Initially, the two sisters were in the same children's home,

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but they were separated when they were fostered.

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However, by a quirk of fate,

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Violet and Kathleen were at one point placed in foster homes

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which were within walking distance of each other.

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I lived in South Street and she lived round the corner,

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and we met up through a friend of mine.

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She knew me, but I didn't know her to start with.

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And that's how it all began.

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Once they'd realised how close their two foster homes were,

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the two sisters used to sneak out and play with each other in secret.

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But this joyful time didn't last.

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My foster mother found out that I was meeting Kathleen,

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and she sent me back to the home. And that was it.

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I never saw Kathleen again.

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No.

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The last time she saw Kathleen, Violet was just eight years old,

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and although her memories may have faded,

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she's never forgotten her older sister.

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She was the good-looking of the two. Used to be jealous of her sometimes.

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She had lovely curly hair, as I remember.

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I don't remember that much -

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we were about the same in build and that. But the only thing

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that really sticks in my mind is when she used to give me a piggyback

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up Eastwood Hill, because it was a steep hill to school.

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Violet moved to London when she was 14, and married when she was 20.

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After her first husband died, she remarried

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and in 1968, emigrated with him and her five children to Australia.

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Violet was not alone in making this move to the other side of the world.

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-RADIO:

-You could be on your way to a sunnier future,

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on your way to Australia, a great place for families.

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Starting in the late 1940s, the Australian government

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wanted to entice British workers

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by offering passage to the country for £10.

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These travellers became known as Ten Pound Poms,

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and over 1.5 million of them

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made the journey to a new life down under.

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Violet and her family settled happily in Australia,

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but she never forgot Kathleen.

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I didn't say goodbye to Kathleen

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and she never got to say goodbye to me, and it was just like...

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well, you might say parting of the ways.

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Violet tried to trace Kathleen several times over the years,

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but never had any luck.

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And then, a few years ago, her granddaughter, Candace,

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made one last-ditch attempt.

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I have a sister and three brothers,

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and I couldn't imagine life without any one of them.

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So I just knew that I had to do something

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to help her have that connection with Kathleen again.

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I spent quite a few hours searching the internet

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to try and see what information I could get,

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and we had very little to go on.

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And using that, I found Kathleen's birth certificate

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that I surprised my grandma with for her 80th birthday.

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And the look on her face when I give that to her, just...

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It was more than I can even describe.

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Armed with Kathleen's birth certificate,

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Candace contacted her local branch of the Salvation Army

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in the hope this document would now be enough

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to finally reunite her grandmother with her sister.

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Good afternoon, Salvation Army Family Tracing Service. How can I help you?

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The London Family Tracing unit was given the case

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by their Australian counterparts,

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and set about trying to find Kathleen.

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There are 28 Family Tracing Service offices across the world,

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and this case came from our Australian colleagues.

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Violet and Kathleen had been out of contact for over seven decades,

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and Kathleen's name may well have changed in this period,

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so the Family Tracing unit started by searching marriage certificates,

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which list maiden names.

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We were able to find that she'd actually married

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and her name had changed to Cousins.

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So that was the first step in the process,

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and after that, all we had to do then is try and find her.

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Just three months after Candace sent the Salvation Army

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Kathleen's birth certificate, the Family Finding unit

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got a solid lead on her whereabouts.

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In cases like this, where we've found a possible name

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or a current name for somebody,

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the next step would be to check the electoral roll

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to see if we can find an address for them,

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and that's what we did with Kathleen.

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And we were able to find one possible address, which we wrote to.

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A few weeks later, we had a letter from Kathleen's daughter, Sharon,

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who told us that Kathleen was really excited and really overjoyed

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at the possibility of being back in contact with her family.

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They called Violet in Australia with the good news.

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When I got this phone call from the Salvation Army,

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I thought something was wrong,

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because they only said it in an ordinary voice,

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and then she said, "Oh, no, it's all right, but she is in a nursing home."

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And then I think we said one or two things,

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and I didn't answer for a while,

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and she said, "Are you all right?"

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And, well, I was very emotional and made a fool of myself and cried.

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And then I said something about shouting it from the rooftops,

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and we just had a conversation from then on,

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and she was asking me to describe how I feel and...

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I just couldn't tell, you know?

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It was like...

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having Christmas all together. Christmas, birthdays,

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the whole lot together. But yeah, it was great.

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Violet couldn't wait to actually talk with her sister,

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but she couldn't get her hopes up yet,

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because at this stage, the decision to reconnect rested with Kathleen.

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When I heard from the Army, they told me

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that she'd get permission for me to write to her.

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So I wrote and I explained a bit about the family and that,

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and said that it was up to her to make the final decision.

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Then she received the long-distance call

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she'd been dreaming of all these years.

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Very late one night I had a phone call,

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because our time difference.

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I think it was about 11 o'clock, our way.

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And we had a talk,

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but don't ask me what we said or what we did,

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because I just can't remember. I just know it was great.

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After 72 years, Violet had no shortage

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of things to catch up on with her sister Kathleen.

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Some good things do happen.

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And it's something that's...

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Well, no matter how much longer I've got,

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I shall remember for all the days of my life.

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Two months after hearing the news that her sister Kathleen

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had finally been traced, Violet and her granddaughter Candace

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arrive at London Heathrow after a 23-hour flight from Australia.

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Now we have to see what sights there is.

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Tomorrow, Violet will see her beloved sister again

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for the first time since they were forcibly separated

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when she was just eight years old.

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Meanwhile, in Lincolnshire, Violet's sister Kathleen

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and her daughter Sharon can barely wait.

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Wonderful. Absolutely wonderful.

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I can't get hold of her soon enough.

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It's so hard to describe how I feel. This is...

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It's a dream come true for my mum, obviously.

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It's something that she's wanted... oh, all your life, probably.

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-Since you left.

-Yes.

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So yeah, excitement, anticipation - they're all there.

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-Just - oh, I can't wait.

-SHE LAUGHS

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She might remember more than I do, and...

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Well, I'm just hoping that we can fit the pieces together.

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You know, we've both had journeys through life,

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and see what comes at the end of it.

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To have this opportunity to share a journey so big like this

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is just amazing.

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It's a miracle, really,

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-and I'm glad I could be a part of that.

-So am I.

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I haven't slept properly for the last couple of nights.

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Once I knew they were on the plane and on their way,

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I really haven't slept, cos all that's in my head

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is thinking about them being here,

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and seeing my mum and them reunited, and meeting her for the first time.

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Oh, it's just going to be so fantastic. I just can't...

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-I'm so excited, it's ridiculous.

-I wouldn't let her go.

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I wouldn't want to let her go. She'd have a job to leave me.

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To be quite honest,

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I've been looking for Kathleen that long

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that I didn't think I would see her again, no.

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And I didn't think I would be making this trip. Not at my age, anyway.

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But I'm glad, I am.

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I'm glad I took the nerve to do it.

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There are thousands of archive libraries around Britain

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which are full of your family secrets

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if you wish to delve into them, and most of the information is public.

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In Liverpool, the local archives proved invaluable to Ron Clark

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when he wanted to find out about his family history.

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As a young boy in the 1950s,

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Ron grew up in one of the poorest parts of the city.

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Life at the time in the sort of tenement block,

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living in Liverpool would have been real tough,

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because times were hard anyway, money was scarce.

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Ron was a was a child born out of wedlock to a single mother,

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but at the time, he had no idea how difficult life was for her.

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We were terribly poor, but we were also very rich,

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because she brought me culture.

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She taught me to read and gave me an appreciation of authors

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and poetry and stuff, and so it didn't feel like poverty.

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He may have fond memories of his early life,

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but everything changed for Ron when he was just eight years old.

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One day, out of the blue,

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I went with my mum from school

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to some nearby relatives,

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and while we were at the relatives,

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my mum stated that she had left her purse back home,

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and she'd be drifting off to get it, and sadly,

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she went away and didn't come back.

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There was a short period of time where I thought maybe my mum

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was going to return to the relatives'.

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Soon it became obvious that she wasn't coming back,

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and for me, it was devastating.

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I thought the world of my mum.

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It was only me and her.

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We were a little team, and suddenly she'd gone.

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And I was absolutely devastated.

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Ron was only with his relatives for a short time

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before being uprooted once again.

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I was taken away by some guys from social services

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and taken to a completely new life.

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We went to a place outside the city

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where I was brought up with my now new brother, Steve,

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and whilst I can't hide the fact that it is very sad

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to lose one aspect of your life,

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I then sort of entered another one,

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and was being brought up with my brother.

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Ronnie turned up as a young boy,

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round about the same age as myself at the time.

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My parents said that Ronnie was joining us, that he had issues

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with his family, and he'd be staying with us for a short period of time.

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Ron lived happily with his foster parents

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and his foster brother Steve for many years.

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I'd given up on anything relating to my previous family,

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so I at that point simply accepted

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that I was a guy with a foster brother going through life.

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And that was it.

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It was only when he got married

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that Ron started to miss his birth family.

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My wife had a huge family, and I had Steve, my foster brother.

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So we had to cater for that by having a very, very small

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daytime wedding, because of course,

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I had sort of one relative at the time that I could bring along.

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With his focus now on married life and children,

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it was in fact another two decades

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before Ron started his hunt for his family.

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He started his search at grassroots level, at his local library.

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Roger Hull is one of the senior archivists.

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This is the main centre to come for family history

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in the Liverpool area, and the wider area as well,

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cos a lot of our records cover the whole country.

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So there's a huge wealth of resources here.

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We have the baptismal, marriage and burial registers

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for most of the Liverpool parishes.

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We also have the Census returns.

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We have a vast collection of local newspapers.

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Probably have about 15,000 people who come through this unit

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every year looking for their family history.

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For Ron, these archives were the perfect place

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to try and find out more about his troubled childhood

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and discover what became of the mother who abandoned him.

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The library were a great help, actually, because what they did,

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they give me an address and a phone number

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of a particular social services department,

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and I wrote to them,

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and they were able to send me information about my mother.

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And there was some very sad news.

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Ron remembers very clearly the moment

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when he was told about his mother's death as a child.

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I was an 11-year-old kid.

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I'd come home from school. Normal day,

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brought home some woodwork that I was proudly showing off.

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But when I arrived home, my social services visitor

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was waiting for me - Mr Wilson -

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and I could tell straight away that something was wrong.

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And he informed me that my mother had died.

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It was devastating. I was very, very sad - I was just a kid.

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After nearly 50 years of uncertainty,

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this letter from social services would finally allow Ron

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to know how his beloved mother had really died.

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On the 12th March 1969, she was found dead.

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And suicide is indicated on the file,

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but no official confirmation is given.

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As well as revealing the tragic circumstances of his mother's death,

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this letter held some other big surprises for Ron.

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It told me that I had siblings - a girl born in 1939,

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a boy two years later,

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and twins who are half Chinese,

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whose ages were not given.

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And it says there are no details about these children on the file.

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This came as a shock and an amazing surprise.

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It was like this fantastic bonus,

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that because I'd done the work to find out about my mum,

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all this information came my way about my siblings.

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But of course, it was only the start,

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because who where they and where were they?

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There was obviously some work to be done.

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Ron started the search for his siblings

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with the one key bit of information the letter contained -

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the date of birth of his sister.

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But all he had to go on was the name Georgina,

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which he'd overheard his foster parents mention once.

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But the search for this name

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didn't deliver any results with that date of birth,

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so Ron tried searching again under an abbreviation of it.

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We got through all that and found it wasn't actually Georgina,

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it was Jean. It was then a question, really,

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of finding, potentially, the year that she may have married,

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because my guess was that being a young lady, she would have married,

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and we're not going to find her until we have her married surname.

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Ron had to forensically look through every single marriage record

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in the Liverpool area over a period of almost ten years.

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It was a huge undertaking.

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But finally, it paid off.

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There we go. Found it there.

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We've got Jean Clark,

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and she's married a guy with the surname Ray,

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Liverpool South, and the entry is 10D867.

0:19:450:19:52

This Jean Ray had the maiden name Clark,

0:19:520:19:55

which is also Ron's surname. And her date of birth matched too.

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Her marriage certificate revealed another vital bit of information -

0:20:010:20:05

a mother listed as Elizabeth Clark, which was Ron's mother's name.

0:20:050:20:10

So more detective work helped Ron find a possible address

0:20:120:20:15

for the Jean who he hoped was his older sister.

0:20:150:20:18

And so he wasted no time and drove round there.

0:20:180:20:22

I was filled with all sort of mixed emotions, because...

0:20:220:20:26

I had real butterflies.

0:20:260:20:28

I knew that what happened next could be a life-changing event for me,

0:20:280:20:32

and I knew if I could clarify that this was actually

0:20:320:20:36

Jean and Alan's home, I would be about to meet my sister.

0:20:360:20:40

And it was life-changing.

0:20:400:20:42

And so it was on Christmas Eve, 1998,

0:20:420:20:46

that Ron's life was to change forever.

0:20:460:20:49

I was 60 when I met Ron.

0:20:490:20:52

Hi, Jeanie.

0:20:550:20:57

At the time, it was a total shock for Jean, who, like Ron,

0:20:570:21:01

had grown up thinking she had no other family.

0:21:010:21:05

The only time I knew about Ron was when he found me.

0:21:050:21:09

It was good, you know, knowing that I did have someone,

0:21:090:21:12

because all them years on, I didn't have anyone.

0:21:120:21:15

No relatives, you know?

0:21:150:21:18

You said to my husband,

0:21:180:21:19

"Is your wife's birthday the 24th of the 4th '39?"

0:21:190:21:23

-That's right.

-And Alan said, "Yes."

-Yeah.

0:21:230:21:25

And he said, "You'd better come in."

0:21:250:21:27

Yeah, because I'll never forget the moment I said,

0:21:270:21:30

-"So would you mind if I say hello to my sister?"

-Yeah.

0:21:300:21:34

-And he just looked at me...

-I didn't know whether to laugh or cry.

0:21:340:21:37

-It was emotional, but it was a lovely occasion.

-Yeah, it was.

0:21:370:21:41

-Thank you for that.

-Ah, you're welcome.

-Thank you very much.

0:21:410:21:44

I just wish it had been a bit...

0:21:440:21:47

-Sooner.

-Sooner than that, yeah. And aren't we alike?

0:21:470:21:50

-We are.

-Poor you! HE LAUGHS

0:21:520:21:55

-I think it's lovely, Ron. I do.

-Ah.

0:21:550:21:57

But yeah, I suppose we are alike, aren't we?

0:21:570:22:00

-And says we laugh the same.

-And we like the same -

0:22:000:22:02

we like the Eagles and you like the Eagles.

0:22:020:22:04

-There you go.

-Strange, isn't it?

-Yeah.

0:22:040:22:07

Through finding Jean,

0:22:070:22:09

Ron also made contact with another sibling, Roy.

0:22:090:22:13

That's me, you, and there's our Roy.

0:22:130:22:17

Sadly, Roy's no longer with us, of course,

0:22:170:22:19

but because of you I did get to see him

0:22:190:22:22

-and I did get to meet him and spent time there.

-Yes.

0:22:220:22:25

So that again was the same experience all over again

0:22:250:22:28

of meeting a sibling that, you know, I'd never known previously.

0:22:280:22:32

-So another lovely experience.

-Yeah.

0:22:320:22:35

But Ron's search for his new family didn't end there.

0:22:360:22:40

A letter Ron was given by social services

0:22:400:22:42

explaining his mother's death had also referenced

0:22:420:22:45

two mysterious twin siblings who were half Chinese.

0:22:450:22:49

Finding Jean now inspired Ron to launch a new search for them.

0:22:500:22:55

After a local newspaper wrote an article

0:22:560:22:58

about him and Jean, a cousin got in touch

0:22:580:23:01

with a vital piece of information about the twins.

0:23:010:23:04

They gave me that little clue that we didn't have,

0:23:040:23:07

which was that surname, which led to the name Yong.

0:23:070:23:11

And because by now we were used to doing a bit of detective work,

0:23:110:23:15

we were able to trace their births.

0:23:150:23:18

And that was the start of the adventure of actually finding them.

0:23:180:23:23

It was a bit daunting to think

0:23:270:23:30

that it was time to start searching all over again,

0:23:300:23:32

because I did realise that it takes up a lot of time.

0:23:320:23:35

But at the end of the adventure, finding Jean,

0:23:350:23:38

it was so rewarding, and I wouldn't change a thing.

0:23:380:23:42

This time around, Ron could use all the family finding resources

0:23:420:23:46

the internet has to offer, so he went straight to website

0:23:460:23:49

that allows anyone to browse through a range of family records.

0:23:490:23:53

Once I had the name Yong, it was a sort of eureka moment,

0:23:530:23:58

because the name is obviously nothing like as widely known

0:23:580:24:03

as the name Clark would be.

0:24:030:24:06

And searching for that name, I was able, actually, to find

0:24:060:24:09

a birth registration for somebody, and it was listed as "Yong or Clark"

0:24:090:24:14

so I knew absolutely that I'd found their names.

0:24:140:24:19

It was an incredible moment.

0:24:190:24:21

There he is. So we know we've got Raymond F Clark,

0:24:210:24:25

mother's maiden name Yong or Clark, for whatever reason at the time,

0:24:250:24:29

but it helped me no end, because that proved to me

0:24:290:24:33

that this is the guy, unquestionably.

0:24:330:24:35

I've now got his birth date as well as being between

0:24:350:24:37

January and March 1952, so we've got an age.

0:24:370:24:41

Armed with this information, Ron trawled the social networking sites

0:24:410:24:46

and found a photograph that someone had posted of a wedding in Bali.

0:24:460:24:49

Yeah, there it is. That's the photo that I found

0:24:490:24:53

when I could identify for the first time ever

0:24:530:24:56

the guy that I thought was Raymond, my brother.

0:24:560:24:59

And I just immediately felt a sort of bond -

0:24:590:25:02

that, "There he is, that's my brother." I knew.

0:25:020:25:06

He had a strong lead, but now Ron had to find a way

0:25:070:25:11

of getting in touch with this Raymond Clark.

0:25:110:25:14

If, like Ron, you fancy searching for your family by yourself,

0:25:190:25:23

then birth, death and marriage certificates

0:25:230:25:25

are a great starting point.

0:25:250:25:28

Cross-referencing these records will allow you to discover

0:25:280:25:31

if families have moved address

0:25:310:25:33

or if people have changed their last names.

0:25:330:25:36

And signatories on these documents often lead

0:25:360:25:38

to other relatives or next of kin.

0:25:380:25:41

Until the 1990s, the only way of accessing these documents

0:25:410:25:45

was by going to the national or local registry offices

0:25:450:25:48

and trawling through their archives on microfiche.

0:25:480:25:52

But in recent years, these certificates

0:25:520:25:54

have been collated into searchable databases,

0:25:540:25:56

which are available on various genealogy websites.

0:25:560:26:00

In Lincolnshire, 80-year-old Violet Rossini is on her way

0:26:070:26:10

to meet her beloved sister Kathleen.

0:26:100:26:13

They were separated when Violet was aged eight,

0:26:130:26:16

and haven't seen each other for 72 years.

0:26:160:26:19

Are you excited?

0:26:190:26:21

Yes. Yes, excited.

0:26:210:26:24

But also nervous.

0:26:240:26:27

After taking on their case,

0:26:290:26:31

the Salvation Army found Kathleen in a nursing home in Lincoln,

0:26:310:26:34

where she is waiting with her daughter Sharon

0:26:340:26:36

for this transcontinental reunion.

0:26:360:26:39

-Does it feel unreal?

-It does, actually.

0:26:390:26:41

Yeah, bit surreal.

0:26:410:26:43

Just want to hold her.

0:26:430:26:45

-Your heart going?

-Yeah.

0:26:470:26:49

-Yeah. Blood pressure going up!

-SHE LAUGHS

0:26:490:26:51

Oh!

0:26:590:27:00

Hello.

0:27:000:27:02

THEY MURMUR INDISTINCTLY

0:27:090:27:11

-72 years.

-But I've thought of you all the time.

0:27:150:27:17

Have you? So have I. So have I.

0:27:170:27:20

-How have you felt?

-Oh, waiting, waiting just now.

0:27:200:27:26

But it's been worth every minute.

0:27:260:27:29

-It has, hasn't it?

-Yes.

0:27:290:27:30

-But we're here now.

-Yeah. And we'll keep in touch.

-Yes.

0:27:300:27:35

-Don't know where to begin, do we?

-No, but we will eventually.

0:27:350:27:39

-Never forgotten.

-Neither have I. There's been that bond.

0:27:390:27:42

A very strong bond.

0:27:420:27:44

-What's her name, did you say? I forgot.

-Candy.

-Candy?

-Yeah.

0:27:440:27:48

-I had a little dog called that.

-I knew that was coming!

0:27:480:27:50

THEY LAUGH I think she's better than a dog!

0:27:500:27:53

Auntie Violet has travelled across,

0:27:550:27:57

what, half the world to get here at her age. I'm astounded.

0:27:570:28:02

Respect to the lady.

0:28:020:28:04

She's found a missing piece of her life.

0:28:060:28:09

I think as much as she says that she is happy and, you know,

0:28:090:28:14

bubbly - she is all of that, but now it's that one notch higher.

0:28:140:28:19

She's found someone that knows the stories that she remembers

0:28:190:28:23

and can confirm that they're true.

0:28:230:28:25

-I had a little dog called Penny.

-Oh, did you?

0:28:250:28:28

-Yeah.

-He was a cheap one, then?

-Very cheap!

0:28:280:28:31

THEY LAUGH

0:28:310:28:33

You've got the same old cracks, haven't you?

0:28:330:28:35

They are so alike,

0:28:370:28:39

and immediately the sense of humour came out,

0:28:390:28:43

and it was the same.

0:28:430:28:44

I've never seen her cry, so the fact that she broke down -

0:28:470:28:51

it's like, you knew she was coming home.

0:28:510:28:54

She's come to someone that she recognises and has a bond with

0:28:540:28:58

and is someone that's so familiar without knowing her for 72 years.

0:28:580:29:02

It's amazing that that's the reaction that they had.

0:29:020:29:06

Can you remember giving me a piggyback up the hill

0:29:060:29:09

-when we were going to school?

-Oh, yes.

-And we kept it secret.

0:29:090:29:12

-Yes.

-We used to meet in secret.

-Yes, I did.

0:29:120:29:16

The ultimate revenge for my mum, meeting Violet again,

0:29:160:29:20

on the people who dragged them apart,

0:29:200:29:22

is they're now together again.

0:29:220:29:23

I lived round the corner, and my foster mother didn't want me

0:29:230:29:26

to have anything to do with Kathleen when she found out we were related.

0:29:260:29:29

-How awful's that, though?

-Yeah.

-Yeah.

0:29:290:29:31

-And so we used to...

-Meet in secret?

-Yeah.

0:29:310:29:34

They should have known each other their whole lives,

0:29:340:29:37

and now they get to make up for that.

0:29:370:29:39

I don't believe that!

0:29:420:29:43

Thrilled to bits.

0:29:430:29:46

She was what I expected.

0:29:460:29:49

I've been waiting for her and loved her for all this time.

0:29:490:29:54

I was shocked to see how much we do look alike.

0:29:540:29:58

And it was after that, everything just blew away.

0:29:580:30:03

You know, it's, "Oh, yes, this is Kathleen," you know?

0:30:030:30:06

Awesome, awesome.

0:30:060:30:08

It is really nice to have to have my sister back, because,

0:30:080:30:12

well, she's meant a lot to me all these years.

0:30:120:30:16

I've never forgotten her and I've always thought about her.

0:30:160:30:20

So I am glad to have a sister back again.

0:30:200:30:23

It doesn't feel like 72 years at all since we last met.

0:30:230:30:27

A lot of things that I've felt,

0:30:270:30:30

Kathleen's been able to put into place,

0:30:300:30:34

and I've got that sense of feeling

0:30:340:30:37

that what I thought is right,

0:30:370:30:40

and I wasn't just imagining it.

0:30:400:30:43

And she's just closed everything up for me.

0:30:430:30:47

That's my youngest daughter.

0:30:470:30:49

It's like a miracle.

0:30:490:30:50

I can't really describe it any other way,

0:30:500:30:53

because I never really thought I would ever see her.

0:30:530:30:56

I thought if I found her she might have passed away,

0:30:560:31:01

because she was older than me, and I'm getting on to.

0:31:010:31:05

But now this is just really wonderful.

0:31:050:31:08

In London the next day,

0:31:130:31:15

Violet and Candace pop by the Salvation Army Family Finders office

0:31:150:31:19

to meet the team who helped them trace Kathleen.

0:31:190:31:22

Good morning, everybody.

0:31:250:31:27

I just want to say thank you for the wonderful,

0:31:270:31:30

wonderful job that you've done, and for all the hard work.

0:31:300:31:33

I'm very grateful and always will be. Thank you very much.

0:31:330:31:37

Thank you once again.

0:31:370:31:39

As a caseworker, you don't often think of the impact

0:31:390:31:43

that what you're doing will have on somebody

0:31:430:31:45

until you get that phone call and you can hear it in their voice,

0:31:450:31:48

that they're so excited to be in contact with that person,

0:31:480:31:51

so it's thrilling to be able to be part of that excitement

0:31:510:31:55

and that reuniting of family members.

0:31:550:31:59

In Liverpool, Ron Clark thought he was on his own

0:32:110:32:14

from the age of eight, but when he was in his '40s,

0:32:140:32:18

Ron started searching for his siblings,

0:32:180:32:20

and found four brothers and sisters he'd never known.

0:32:200:32:23

That's me, you, and there's our Roy.

0:32:230:32:27

He'd found his older sister, Jean, and a brother, Roy,

0:32:270:32:31

but next, Ron was on the hunt for the half Chinese twins

0:32:310:32:34

who are also his siblings.

0:32:340:32:36

The difference between finding Jean

0:32:360:32:39

and dealing with finding the twins

0:32:390:32:42

was I could use some more modern technology,

0:32:420:32:46

some newer methods.

0:32:460:32:48

When Ron started trawling through social network sites,

0:32:480:32:52

he came across an image that changed everything.

0:32:520:32:55

But it turned out Ray was on the other side of the world,

0:32:550:32:58

in Bali, Indonesia.

0:32:580:33:01

Ron found an e-mail for the hotel which Ray manages there

0:33:010:33:04

and sent him a letter.

0:33:040:33:06

"Dear Raymond, I have something important to discuss with you.

0:33:060:33:11

"Will you contact me?"

0:33:110:33:13

With a telephone number

0:33:130:33:15

I recognised as being a Liverpool telephone number,

0:33:150:33:19

signed Ron Clark.

0:33:190:33:21

Speechless.

0:33:240:33:25

Sat in my office and took a deep breath, I thought,

0:33:250:33:29

"Oh, my God, what's this?"

0:33:290:33:31

Then I sort of calmed down a little bit, and I'm thinking,

0:33:330:33:35

"Hmmm, relative."

0:33:350:33:38

Somebody's found us.

0:33:400:33:42

Cos I didn't know about Ron.

0:33:440:33:46

Nobody told me about Ron.

0:33:460:33:48

Didn't know he existed.

0:33:480:33:50

So then when I called him, the minute he spoke,

0:33:500:33:53

the minute I spoke - automated connection.

0:33:530:33:57

It's like we knew each other already.

0:33:590:34:02

Just chatted and chatted and chatted.

0:34:020:34:05

And then I told him,

0:34:050:34:07

"OK, next time I come to the UK we'll get together."

0:34:070:34:11

And the next time I got to the UK, we had the weekend together.

0:34:110:34:14

Fantastic.

0:34:150:34:17

Super nice. Yeah.

0:34:170:34:20

Ray always thought he and his twin sister Irene

0:34:210:34:24

were completely on their own with no immediate family.

0:34:240:34:28

I'm so proud of what he's done.

0:34:280:34:30

-Yeah, fantastic.

-And he's found us in the end.

0:34:300:34:33

-And he's helped us belong to someone at last.

-Take my hat off to him.

0:34:330:34:37

Yeah, absolutely.

0:34:370:34:39

They've all met up before, but now Ray's come over from Bali

0:34:390:34:43

and Irene's come from her home in Wigan for another family gathering.

0:34:430:34:48

And the first port of call is big sister Jean's house.

0:34:480:34:52

-Hi!

-Hello!

-My little sister.

0:34:520:34:54

-How are you?

-Jean, look what I found.

0:34:540:34:57

-How are you?

-Little bit better now, thank you.

0:34:570:35:00

Hiya. I heard you haven't been very well.

0:35:000:35:02

-I'm all right now, seeing you.

-Ahhh.

-THEY LAUGH

0:35:020:35:05

-Nice to see you again.

-Thank you.

0:35:050:35:08

-Everything go OK?

-Yes, thank you.

-Good girl.

0:35:080:35:11

-Lovely.

-It is lovely, isn't it?

0:35:110:35:14

-What a nice little house you've got here!

-Eh?

0:35:140:35:16

-Nice little house you got here.

-Lovely little bungalow.

0:35:160:35:19

-Yeah.

-I like it, me. It's lovely. Cosy. Dead cosy.

0:35:190:35:22

Connecting with Ron has been an amazing experience for Ray

0:35:220:35:26

and Irene, but they still have a lot of questions for him

0:35:260:35:29

about their mother.

0:35:290:35:30

As far as we know, our mother is listed as deserting us

0:35:300:35:36

at three months.

0:35:360:35:38

No physical memories.

0:35:380:35:42

Unlike Ron - Ron's got eight years he lived with her. Great memories.

0:35:420:35:47

So some of the things he tells me, I'm all ears.

0:35:470:35:50

Listening, listening, you know? Cos we didn't have that privilege.

0:35:500:35:54

-Is very interesting, though, isn't it? When he's telling us.

-Yeah.

0:35:540:35:58

While they're in Liverpool, Ron takes them both

0:36:010:36:04

to the very same area where he grew up with their mum in the 1950s.

0:36:040:36:08

How long did you actually live there with Mum?

0:36:100:36:12

Six, seven years of my life was spent here in Kent Gardens.

0:36:120:36:15

-We didn't get that privilege, so we don't know.

-No.

0:36:150:36:18

-But this one is an actual photo...

-Of the apartment?

-Yeah.

0:36:180:36:21

But you don't call it apartment, you call it a tenement.

0:36:210:36:24

Well, yeah, I mean, they were referred to -

0:36:240:36:26

the Scouse term was "tennies".

0:36:260:36:28

The tennies. So we'd say we live in the tennies of Kent Gardens.

0:36:280:36:32

Built in 1938, Kent Gardens was part

0:36:330:36:36

of a £20 million redevelopment scheme across Liverpool,

0:36:360:36:40

which was designed to replace the overcrowded

0:36:400:36:43

and unsanitary slums across the city.

0:36:430:36:45

Kent Gardens itself was demolished in the 1970s,

0:36:480:36:51

but at the time of its construction,

0:36:510:36:53

tenement blocks like this were considered highly progressive.

0:36:530:36:57

So they were brand-new as the time, and they were probably much better

0:36:570:37:00

than the housing that people had lived in before.

0:37:000:37:02

Obviously had running water, sanitation,

0:37:020:37:05

indoor lavatories and baths, whereas the old buildings might not have had that.

0:37:050:37:09

Probably have been a luxury for the people who moved into them,

0:37:090:37:11

from what has happened before.

0:37:110:37:14

But while these new blocks did provide safe,

0:37:140:37:17

sanitary housing for former slum dwellers,

0:37:170:37:19

this was still high density living,

0:37:190:37:22

with many large extended families crammed into small flats.

0:37:220:37:26

It probably would have been a hard life for them, but you tend to find

0:37:260:37:30

there's a great community atmosphere in these tenements.

0:37:300:37:33

Some fell by the wayside, but others were indomitable,

0:37:330:37:36

and that's this Liverpool spirit, isn't it?

0:37:360:37:38

This indomitable spirit which saw them through the Blitz in the 1940s,

0:37:380:37:42

and it's the Scouser as we know today.

0:37:420:37:46

In a close-knit community like this, being a single parent

0:37:460:37:50

would undoubtedly have carried a certain stigma

0:37:500:37:52

for Ron's mother, Elizabeth, and this may ultimately have contributed

0:37:520:37:56

to her children ending up in care.

0:37:560:37:59

Because of the social ethos, the morality of the time,

0:37:590:38:02

which frowned on such things -

0:38:020:38:04

that marriage was sacrosanct

0:38:040:38:07

and to have a child out of wedlock was, you know,

0:38:070:38:11

frowned upon, to put it mildly.

0:38:110:38:13

And although Kent Gardens was close to Chinatown and the docks,

0:38:140:38:18

having mixed race children out of wedlock here

0:38:180:38:20

would have made life even tougher.

0:38:200:38:23

-Looks quite grim, doesn't it?

-It does.

-In one way,

0:38:240:38:27

-but it's a community.

-It is.

0:38:270:38:29

-This was Liverpool in the '50s and the '60s.

-It was.

0:38:290:38:33

-It wasn't an unhappy place.

-No.

0:38:330:38:37

At the time, most of the people in this area were poor,

0:38:370:38:42

but of course our mum, single parent, poorer than most.

0:38:420:38:47

And yet, you know, she managed with no resources whatsoever

0:38:470:38:52

to make my life as happy as possible at things like Christmas time.

0:38:520:38:56

All my memories of living there are very happy ones.

0:38:560:38:59

It's quite ghostly, cos this is the very first time

0:38:590:39:02

-I'm hearing this address.

-Yes.

0:39:020:39:04

This area feels so familiar to me, because although there are buildings

0:39:040:39:08

that have modernised and changed,

0:39:080:39:10

the basic layout of the area is the same,

0:39:100:39:12

and you know, I recognise, I'm familiar with it,

0:39:120:39:15

cos I used to go to school down the road.

0:39:150:39:17

During the time you were still living there,

0:39:170:39:20

I'm actually just starting to go to college.

0:39:200:39:22

-College, just up the road.

-Which is walking distance away.

0:39:220:39:24

-I wish I'd known a bit more about this earlier on.

-Of course.

0:39:240:39:28

-Walking down the road, could have gone knocking on the door.

-Yeah.

0:39:280:39:31

-Would've been good, that, wouldn't it?

-"Can I have a cup of tea?"

-THEY LAUGH

0:39:310:39:34

-There, see? That's how close we were.

-Absolutely.

0:39:340:39:38

-So close and so far away.

-That's right.

-Yeah.

0:39:380:39:40

-Great stuff, man.

-Thank you.

0:39:400:39:43

I think life was pretty desperate.

0:39:430:39:45

I mean, this was post-war years -

0:39:460:39:49

money was short.

0:39:490:39:53

Maybe there was bread on the table some days, not every day.

0:39:530:39:57

He tends to gloss over a little bit,

0:39:570:39:59

cos they were happy days for him,

0:39:590:40:01

and I'm sure they were really, really happy days,

0:40:010:40:04

but I think during those happy days,

0:40:040:40:07

and he didn't know anything different, things were tight.

0:40:070:40:11

And I think that was poverty in reality.

0:40:110:40:15

I wish I could have been there with my mum.

0:40:150:40:18

Not sure I'd like to be there

0:40:180:40:20

enduring those same circumstances, though.

0:40:200:40:22

Ron's tireless search for his family

0:40:250:40:27

has brought him together with his siblings Ray, Irene and Jean.

0:40:270:40:31

But while Ray's here in the UK, Ron would like the twins to meet someone

0:40:310:40:35

who's equally important to him - his foster brother Steve,

0:40:350:40:39

who he grew up with from the age of eight.

0:40:390:40:42

I've never met Irene or Ray. This is the very first time.

0:40:480:40:52

I'm really looking forward to it, I'm sure we'll get on great,

0:40:520:40:55

hopefully, and I hope to see a lot more of them as well.

0:40:550:40:58

You know, it's good for me.

0:40:580:41:00

I'm a little bit nervous, because we've never met.

0:41:000:41:03

-Cheers.

-Cheers, Ron.

0:41:070:41:09

Hey, hey!

0:41:170:41:18

I don't even need to be introduced.

0:41:180:41:20

-Is that OK?

-Cos I'm sure...

0:41:200:41:23

-Hiya. Come here. I've got you first.

-Hiya!

0:41:230:41:27

Hiya. How are you?

0:41:270:41:29

-Ray.

-Very pleased to meet you.

-Very, very pleased to meet you.

-Yeah.

0:41:290:41:34

-You're here now.

-Thank you.

0:41:340:41:37

-We've met.

-Yeah, we've met a few times.

0:41:370:41:40

THEY LAUGH

0:41:400:41:43

I thought through my whole childhood, adulthood,

0:41:430:41:49

that the only relative I had was my twin sister Irene.

0:41:490:41:52

There was nobody else. And all of a sudden

0:41:520:41:54

I've got this new-found family - massive!

0:41:540:41:57

-It's gone from like a small finding to massive.

-Massive.

0:41:570:42:01

You know, when Ronnie rings me and says to me,

0:42:010:42:04

"I've found somebody else now." And it's networking, isn't it, really?

0:42:040:42:08

-It's networking in effect.

-Yeah.

0:42:080:42:09

Because oh, you know, you've got a cousin here

0:42:090:42:12

or a second cousin there or an aunt here or an uncle there.

0:42:120:42:15

And they're not just in Liverpool any more.

0:42:150:42:18

-No, they're all over the world.

-And I was in Australia two weeks ago,

0:42:180:42:20

and then he was telling me, "Oh, we've got relations in Brisbane!"

0:42:200:42:24

And I said, "I was there last week!"

0:42:240:42:26

So I have a family. And I've been brought up all these years

0:42:260:42:29

thinking I didn't have a family.

0:42:290:42:31

So now I'm a family man.

0:42:310:42:34

Yeah, so it's quite exciting.

0:42:350:42:38

Well, it went superbly well, didn't it?

0:42:380:42:41

As much as it may be true to say that my mum's not here

0:42:410:42:44

to see these things, this is the next best thing.

0:42:440:42:49

We've created a situation that she would be very, very proud of.

0:42:490:42:53

I just know that she would. And for me that's everything.

0:42:530:42:58

Since filming the programme, Kathleen has passed away,

0:43:030:43:07

but not before having the opportunity to catch up

0:43:070:43:11

on a lifetime of happy memories with her beloved sister Violet.

0:43:110:43:14

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