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Families can be driven apart for all manner of reasons. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
I had no information at all about where my mum went. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:07 | |
And when you do lose touch with your loved ones... | 0:00:07 | 0:00:10 | |
You don't know who you are. Where have you come from? | 0:00:10 | 0:00:12 | |
..finding them can take a lifetime... | 0:00:12 | 0:00:15 | |
I might have a brother that's still living here. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:18 | |
..especially when they could be anywhere - at home or abroad. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:23 | |
And that's where the Family Finders come in. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:26 | |
From international organisations... | 0:00:26 | 0:00:28 | |
Hi, it's The Salvation Army Family Tracing Service. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:32 | |
..to genealogy detective agencies... | 0:00:32 | 0:00:34 | |
For them to say that it's changed their life, | 0:00:34 | 0:00:37 | |
it makes coming to work, you know, really, really special. | 0:00:37 | 0:00:40 | |
..and dedicated one-man bands. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:42 | |
It's a matter of how much effort do you really want to put into it, | 0:00:42 | 0:00:46 | |
how badly you want to solve the problem. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:48 | |
They hunt through history to bring families back together again. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:52 | |
Finding new family is wonderful. | 0:00:52 | 0:00:55 | |
In this series, we follow the work of the Family Finders... | 0:00:55 | 0:00:59 | |
Suddenly, you get one spark of breakthrough, and there they are. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:04 | |
..learning the tricks they use to track missing relatives | 0:01:04 | 0:01:07 | |
through time... | 0:01:07 | 0:01:08 | |
I didn't think I'd ever find sisters, but I have. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:13 | |
..and meeting the people whose lives they change along the way. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:17 | |
I've been waiting to meet John my whole life. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:19 | |
Since we've met, I feel part of a family again. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:22 | |
You've just completed my life for me. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:25 | |
In the United Kingdom, there are hundreds of organisations | 0:01:31 | 0:01:34 | |
that specialise in reuniting long-lost families. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:38 | |
But many people decide to turn Family Finders themselves. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:43 | |
Today, we follow the story of one woman's search that turns up | 0:01:43 | 0:01:47 | |
not one but two surprising results. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:50 | |
Do I want to really open this Pandora's box, really? | 0:01:50 | 0:01:54 | |
THEY SQUEAL HAPPILY | 0:01:54 | 0:01:56 | |
And in Weston-super-Mare, car enthusiast Nick Morgan | 0:01:56 | 0:02:00 | |
is on a mission to uncover the truth about his birth family. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:04 | |
And five minutes later, she rang me back and said, | 0:02:04 | 0:02:08 | |
"I think you may have a sister." | 0:02:08 | 0:02:10 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:02:10 | 0:02:12 | |
So good to meet you! | 0:02:12 | 0:02:14 | |
Jean Heathcote lives in Burton upon Trent, in Staffordshire. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:21 | |
She was born in 1949 and enjoyed a happy childhood, | 0:02:21 | 0:02:25 | |
raised by a loving family. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:27 | |
I was very, very lucky. I was spoilt rotten. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:31 | |
I had fantastic parents. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:33 | |
And they...they couldn't do enough for me. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:37 | |
But certain characteristics seemed at odds | 0:02:37 | 0:02:40 | |
with the rest of the family. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:42 | |
I did look very different to my family. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:44 | |
And I had a very different nature to my family as well. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:47 | |
I was much more outgoing and noisy. | 0:02:47 | 0:02:49 | |
SHE CHUCKLES | 0:02:49 | 0:02:51 | |
It wasn't until much later that Jean realised there was more to | 0:02:52 | 0:02:56 | |
these differences than she had originally thought. | 0:02:56 | 0:02:58 | |
When I was 36, I had to apply for a new passport, and it all came | 0:02:58 | 0:03:04 | |
through attached together with my adopted birth certificate on there. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:09 | |
Much to my surprise! So I started to do a bit of investigation. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:15 | |
And I asked my sister that I grew up with, and she told me that she | 0:03:15 | 0:03:19 | |
knew that I was adopted, but it had never come out in the family. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:23 | |
I realised I had no blood relatives then - | 0:03:23 | 0:03:26 | |
I had only my children who were my blood relatives - | 0:03:26 | 0:03:30 | |
and started to research everything that I could about the family. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:36 | |
From her birth certificate, returned alongside her passport, | 0:03:38 | 0:03:41 | |
Jean found the name of her biological mother - | 0:03:41 | 0:03:45 | |
Sheila Mary Kelly. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:46 | |
We went to Somerset House, my husband and I, to try | 0:03:46 | 0:03:50 | |
and trace back, cos I had Sheila's birth date on there, | 0:03:50 | 0:03:54 | |
so I could kind of trace that back a little bit. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:57 | |
But then it was a bit of a full stop then, really, | 0:03:57 | 0:04:00 | |
cos I couldn't find any more. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:03 | |
So we had to find another route to find out more information. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:07 | |
You used to do a thing on teletext television, | 0:04:08 | 0:04:11 | |
searching for lost loved ones, finding lost loved ones. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:14 | |
And my husband actually was the one who said, | 0:04:16 | 0:04:18 | |
"Look, let's do this, see what comes of it, you never know." | 0:04:18 | 0:04:21 | |
So I put a thing on saying that I was searching and | 0:04:21 | 0:04:27 | |
if anybody out there had any more information, | 0:04:27 | 0:04:30 | |
could they get in touch with us. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:33 | |
Jean waited for a response for her appeal to find her natural mother. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:37 | |
I was going through and I found someone | 0:04:37 | 0:04:40 | |
who was looking for the same person that I was. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:44 | |
The message contained too many correct facts to be a coincidence. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:49 | |
Someone else was also searching for Jean's mum, Sheila. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:53 | |
I'm thinking, "Well, it's got to be the same person. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:55 | |
"It has to be, it's the same birth date, but also my name | 0:04:55 | 0:05:01 | |
"and date of birth on there. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:03 | |
"It's got to be us. Now what do I do? | 0:05:03 | 0:05:06 | |
"Do I want to really open this Pandora's box, really?" | 0:05:07 | 0:05:11 | |
I decided that I wanted to open the box and see what happened. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:15 | |
Subsequently, I had a phone call from her. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:19 | |
And she said, "I've been looking for you for 25 years." | 0:05:19 | 0:05:23 | |
The two women shared a mother, | 0:05:25 | 0:05:27 | |
Sheila Mary Kelly, making them half-sisters. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:31 | |
Unbeknownst to Jean, Marie Simmons had spent over a decade | 0:05:31 | 0:05:36 | |
making inquiries of her own about Sheila. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:39 | |
It was amazing. It really was. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:43 | |
I thought, "At last, I've actually managed to find her." | 0:05:43 | 0:05:46 | |
Marie was born a year before Jean. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:51 | |
I was born in Liverpool in 1948. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:55 | |
But her mother had her adopted, | 0:05:56 | 0:05:58 | |
and she went to live with a family in Redhill, Surrey. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:02 | |
My earliest memory is of a baby in a pram and me having some mice. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:08 | |
And I don't know where these mice came from, | 0:06:08 | 0:06:10 | |
but I had the mouse | 0:06:10 | 0:06:11 | |
and I put it on the baby's face. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:14 | |
And I remember being told off for doing so! | 0:06:14 | 0:06:17 | |
Marie's adoptive family were always open about her parentage. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:23 | |
I always knew that I had been adopted because I was | 0:06:23 | 0:06:27 | |
told at a very early age, which I had no problem with at all. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:31 | |
Because when you're young, you don't really understand these things. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
And as long as you are in a reasonably happy family | 0:06:34 | 0:06:37 | |
environment, you don't care, do you? | 0:06:37 | 0:06:39 | |
I wanted to find my birth mother, | 0:06:39 | 0:06:42 | |
but I was led to believe by my adoptive family that she died. | 0:06:42 | 0:06:47 | |
And it was only when I was in my mid-20s that | 0:06:47 | 0:06:51 | |
I found out that she hadn't died. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:54 | |
It didn't matter to me what she was like, | 0:06:54 | 0:06:56 | |
I just wanted to know her and know about her. | 0:06:56 | 0:07:01 | |
And I think people who are adopted need to know. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:06 | |
I must have been around about 25, | 0:07:08 | 0:07:10 | |
26 when I applied for my birth certificate. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:13 | |
And when it came, I saw what her full name was - Sheila Mary Kelly. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:17 | |
While her adoptive mother was still alive, Marie felt unable | 0:07:17 | 0:07:20 | |
to search for more information about her biological mother. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:24 | |
When my adoptive mother died, | 0:07:24 | 0:07:29 | |
I felt that the time was right for me to start looking. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:33 | |
And I just got up one morning and said, | 0:07:33 | 0:07:35 | |
"I'm going to go and look for my birth mother." | 0:07:35 | 0:07:39 | |
I wrote to dozens and dozens of children's societies to find | 0:07:39 | 0:07:45 | |
out whether any of them had any records of a Sheila Mary Kelly, | 0:07:45 | 0:07:49 | |
but with no success at all. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:52 | |
It was almost as if she had disappeared | 0:07:52 | 0:07:54 | |
off the face of the earth. | 0:07:54 | 0:07:55 | |
Her search stopped there until, years later, | 0:07:57 | 0:07:59 | |
Marie discovered the date her mum was born. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:02 | |
She included it in the many messages, | 0:08:02 | 0:08:04 | |
postings and adverts she put out. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:07 | |
It was to one of these that someone replied. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:10 | |
I had a phone call from a lady saying that she was her sister. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:15 | |
It was her mother's sister who had spotted the posting and responded. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:21 | |
SHE GASPS | 0:08:21 | 0:08:23 | |
Which was, well, unbelievable! | 0:08:23 | 0:08:26 | |
I couldn't believe that somebody had actually replied to me. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:30 | |
It was marvellous. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:31 | |
Anyway, she chatted and told me that my mother was alive, | 0:08:31 | 0:08:35 | |
but she was living in America. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:37 | |
It was such a shock after all that time. I mean, I was... By then, | 0:08:37 | 0:08:42 | |
I was in my 40s or so, and I thought, | 0:08:42 | 0:08:46 | |
"Well, does she want to know me?" | 0:08:46 | 0:08:48 | |
And that was all I kept thinking, "Does she want to know me?" | 0:08:48 | 0:08:52 | |
It had taken her 15 years to track down her mother, Sheila. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:57 | |
Well, my aunt and uncle, and myself, we did go to the States, | 0:08:57 | 0:09:01 | |
and got to the house and my birth mother | 0:09:01 | 0:09:05 | |
was standing at the door waiting. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:08 | |
And we said hello. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:11 | |
It wasn't what I was expecting. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:15 | |
She was quite withdrawn. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:18 | |
And it wasn't a particularly successful meeting at all. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:23 | |
In fact, it was quite sad. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:24 | |
But not long after she got back from America, Marie received another | 0:09:26 | 0:09:30 | |
message from someone who had seen one of her appeals for information. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:34 | |
It was her sister, Jean. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:36 | |
-We had a long chat on the phone, decided to meet up. -It was lovely. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:42 | |
It was really lovely to get that first touch was somebody who | 0:09:42 | 0:09:46 | |
actually was related to you. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:49 | |
That was it. It was marvellous. We've got each other. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:52 | |
It was just... It didn't seem real at the time, you know. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:54 | |
But I can still picture her running down the path towards me. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:59 | |
It was so exciting. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:01 | |
She had all the paperwork that she'd found, all laid out, | 0:10:01 | 0:10:04 | |
ready to show me all the pictures | 0:10:04 | 0:10:05 | |
and just everything. It was lovely. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:08 | |
Marie then put Jean in touch with their mother. | 0:10:08 | 0:10:11 | |
I spoke to her once, but... | 0:10:11 | 0:10:13 | |
..you know. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:16 | |
I think she was probably not very well at the time, | 0:10:16 | 0:10:20 | |
and I think she, you know, | 0:10:20 | 0:10:22 | |
she just didn't want anything to do with any of her past, really. Sadly. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:26 | |
Jean still had lots of questions about her early life, so turned to | 0:10:27 | 0:10:31 | |
the wealth of genealogical resources now available on the internet. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:35 | |
It wasn't long before she got a response. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:39 | |
I had a message from a lady called Diana Kelly, | 0:10:39 | 0:10:43 | |
who said, "Hello, I'd like to ask you a few questions | 0:10:43 | 0:10:49 | |
"cos I think I could be related to you." | 0:10:49 | 0:10:52 | |
Jean had discovered one new sister, Marie, | 0:10:52 | 0:10:55 | |
but could there be more relatives out there? | 0:10:55 | 0:10:58 | |
Hello! Hello. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:00 | |
Motor enthusiast Nick Morgan lives in Weston-super-Mare. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:14 | |
I was adopted when I was three months old. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:18 | |
I grew up in a very loving household. Only child. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:21 | |
It was a caring... | 0:11:21 | 0:11:23 | |
And, yeah, I did all the things a little boy should do, I suppose. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:28 | |
And I always knew that I was adopted, right from the very start. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:31 | |
I mean, my parents did a great job with that. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:33 | |
They told me ever since I can remember that I was adopted, | 0:11:33 | 0:11:36 | |
that I was chosen, that I was special, that they | 0:11:36 | 0:11:39 | |
had gone in and there were other babies that they could have picked, | 0:11:39 | 0:11:42 | |
but they picked me. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:44 | |
I never thought of my birth mother or birth father at that stage. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:47 | |
It felt ungrateful, maybe, to be thinking anything else. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:51 | |
These are my parents, so I had no need to find any other parents. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:55 | |
Nick left home, met and married his wife, Jan, | 0:11:56 | 0:12:00 | |
and in 1997 had a son. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:02 | |
The day David was born, he popped out at 8lbs 12oz, | 0:12:04 | 0:12:08 | |
and he lay on my lap | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
and looked at me for two hours. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:14 | |
We just looked at each other. Just awesome. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:18 | |
Really, really mind-blowingly special. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:21 | |
And I know people say when you have children, it's very different. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:24 | |
But, yeah, my first and only true full-blood relative. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:28 | |
So, yeah, very, very special. | 0:12:28 | 0:12:30 | |
It was the birth of his son that inspired Nick to trace | 0:12:30 | 0:12:34 | |
his family lineage. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:36 | |
I was concerned that maybe there was something hereditary in the family. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:40 | |
And a little boy growing up, you start to think, | 0:12:40 | 0:12:43 | |
"Hm, I hope there's nothing there. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:44 | |
"So maybe I should look at this | 0:12:44 | 0:12:47 | |
"and maybe I should think about tracing my family." | 0:12:47 | 0:12:51 | |
A conversation with a friend | 0:12:51 | 0:12:53 | |
added fuel to the fire. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:55 | |
I became inspired by someone that I'd met through work | 0:12:55 | 0:12:58 | |
who'd actually decided that he wanted to find his birth mother. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:02 | |
And I went, "Oh, OK, that's interesting. How do you do that?" | 0:13:02 | 0:13:06 | |
And he said, "Well, first of all, | 0:13:06 | 0:13:07 | |
"you need to get your birth certificate." | 0:13:07 | 0:13:09 | |
And I said, "Well, I've got a birth certificate." | 0:13:09 | 0:13:11 | |
And he said, "No, you need to get your original birth certificate." | 0:13:11 | 0:13:15 | |
I said, "OK, yeah, fine." And he said, | 0:13:15 | 0:13:17 | |
"That will give you then the details of your birth parents, | 0:13:17 | 0:13:21 | |
"and then you need to contact social services once you've got that | 0:13:21 | 0:13:24 | |
"certificate, and they will help you then to track that person down." | 0:13:24 | 0:13:29 | |
That was when I found out that I was John Francis Lowe, | 0:13:29 | 0:13:32 | |
having been Nicholas John Morgan for 40-odd years. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:36 | |
And then social services stepped in and gave me the red file that had | 0:13:36 | 0:13:41 | |
all the details in about my birth and where I'd been, etc. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:45 | |
He had a name for his birth mother - Norah Lowe. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:49 | |
Once I got the file from social services, | 0:13:49 | 0:13:51 | |
it then became apparent that my mother was born in Ireland. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:54 | |
And so, from having been English for 44 years, all of a sudden, | 0:13:54 | 0:13:58 | |
I had some Irish blood in me! | 0:13:58 | 0:14:01 | |
And so, at that point then, we decided to start to explore | 0:14:01 | 0:14:06 | |
the possibilities of finding my mother and finding my roots. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:11 | |
One of the things that I used to say to people was that it would be | 0:14:11 | 0:14:14 | |
really nice to have a photo of my mum, | 0:14:14 | 0:14:15 | |
but I never thought that was going to be possible. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:18 | |
Nick was able to get his biological mother's birth | 0:14:20 | 0:14:22 | |
certificate from the record offices in Ireland. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:26 | |
So we actually then found that my birth mother had lived | 0:14:26 | 0:14:29 | |
in Coventry, got married to a guy in Coventry in 1968 | 0:14:29 | 0:14:34 | |
and became Boulding. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:36 | |
And then he'd passed away in '69. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:38 | |
But after that, we could find no record. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:41 | |
Nick's search ground to a halt... | 0:14:41 | 0:14:43 | |
..until a chance encounter at a business networking event | 0:14:45 | 0:14:48 | |
changed his life forever. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:50 | |
I sat down next to this lady I'd never met before, | 0:14:50 | 0:14:53 | |
so I asked the question, you know, "What's your name? | 0:14:53 | 0:14:55 | |
"Where do you come from? What do you do?" | 0:14:55 | 0:14:57 | |
And she said, "My name is Kirsty Gray. | 0:14:57 | 0:14:59 | |
"I find people for various reasons, | 0:14:59 | 0:15:01 | |
"whether people are looking for inheritances or | 0:15:01 | 0:15:03 | |
"whether they are trying to trace their family, | 0:15:03 | 0:15:06 | |
"and I've got 100% success rate in finding people." | 0:15:06 | 0:15:08 | |
And I said, "Oh, that's interesting. I'm going to spoil your record." | 0:15:08 | 0:15:11 | |
Nick had been searching for well over 15 years, | 0:15:11 | 0:15:14 | |
trying to find out more about his birth mother, so I think he thought | 0:15:14 | 0:15:17 | |
that because he'd failed, there was no information out there. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:20 | |
I first of all had a look to see if I could find a death for his mother | 0:15:20 | 0:15:25 | |
in her married name, and I couldn't. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:28 | |
So I then looked to see if potentially she had married again. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:33 | |
And she did. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:35 | |
So I then had a new married name to look at | 0:15:35 | 0:15:38 | |
and then managed to locate a death record. She died in 1992. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:43 | |
And it links with her date and place of birth, which we knew | 0:15:43 | 0:15:47 | |
from the birth certificate that Nick had was the 28th of October 1919 | 0:15:47 | 0:15:50 | |
in Ireland. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:52 | |
I e-mailed Nick to say, "When you have a quiet five minutes, | 0:15:52 | 0:15:55 | |
"you might want to ring me." | 0:15:55 | 0:15:57 | |
So I rang her up and she said, "I found your mum." | 0:15:57 | 0:16:00 | |
I went, "Whoa!" And she went, "Hang on, she has died." | 0:16:00 | 0:16:04 | |
"OK, not unexpected." | 0:16:04 | 0:16:06 | |
And she died in the same week of the same month of the same year | 0:16:06 | 0:16:10 | |
as my adopted dad, in November 1992. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:13 | |
But the story didn't end there. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:17 | |
Knowing Nick was desperate to see that elusive | 0:16:17 | 0:16:19 | |
photograph of his mum, Kirsty had another lead on Norah's life. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:23 | |
The second married name of Norah, Nick's mum, | 0:16:25 | 0:16:28 | |
was actually quite unusual. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:30 | |
So once we'd found out her husband's name, we actually | 0:16:30 | 0:16:34 | |
had found that he was still living and we had an address for him. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:39 | |
I was very shocked to find that he was alive | 0:16:39 | 0:16:42 | |
and was still living at the same address | 0:16:42 | 0:16:45 | |
that they'd been living at before. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:47 | |
So maybe there was some more information to be gleaned. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:50 | |
So then I was excited. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:52 | |
Kirsty drafted a contact letter to Norah's widower. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:56 | |
Basically, the letter is just explaining a little | 0:16:56 | 0:16:58 | |
bit about who we are, but asking him to contact us. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:01 | |
Kirsty sent off the letter and we had no response for over a week. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:06 | |
And I don't do waiting very well. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:08 | |
When starting a search for a long-lost family member, | 0:17:10 | 0:17:13 | |
it's impossible to predict just how long it will take or even if | 0:17:13 | 0:17:16 | |
it will be successful. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:18 | |
And if you reach a dead end, | 0:17:18 | 0:17:20 | |
it may need something extra to get the search back on the road. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:23 | |
Whenever you hit a brick wall in your search, | 0:17:23 | 0:17:27 | |
it's important that you think outside | 0:17:27 | 0:17:28 | |
the normal research box. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:31 | |
Think about extended family. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:34 | |
Put together a proper family tree for that person. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:36 | |
If you can't find the person you're looking for, | 0:17:36 | 0:17:38 | |
look for brothers, look for sisters, look for cousins, aunts, uncles. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:42 | |
If you can find somebody in the family who knows where that | 0:17:42 | 0:17:45 | |
person is, then that is going to solve your mystery for you. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:49 | |
Nick was determined not to give up his search for his long-lost | 0:17:49 | 0:17:53 | |
relatives and decided to take matters into his own hands. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:57 | |
Having not received a reply to the letter that we'd sent, | 0:17:57 | 0:18:00 | |
I had a Friday afternoon call from Nick to say that he was | 0:18:00 | 0:18:03 | |
actually travelling to Coventry the following day. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
And he said he was just going to pop by and see if he might be | 0:18:06 | 0:18:10 | |
able to meet the gentleman we'd written the letter to. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:12 | |
Kirsty had said, "It's not normal to go and do these things, | 0:18:12 | 0:18:15 | |
"but if we're not getting any joy, | 0:18:15 | 0:18:18 | |
"then I guess we don't probably have a lot of choice. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:21 | |
"So see how you get on." | 0:18:21 | 0:18:23 | |
So I built up my courage, rang the doorbell. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:26 | |
A gentleman came to the doorbell and said, "Who are you?" | 0:18:26 | 0:18:28 | |
And I said, "Well, my name's Nick Morgan. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:31 | |
"You may have had a letter from Kirsty Gray." | 0:18:31 | 0:18:33 | |
And he said, "Yes." | 0:18:33 | 0:18:36 | |
And he invited me in. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:38 | |
And then we chatted for an hour about Norah, | 0:18:38 | 0:18:44 | |
or Noreen as she had then become. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:46 | |
Having had the conversation, I said, | 0:18:46 | 0:18:49 | |
"I don't suppose that you've got a photo of Noreen?" | 0:18:49 | 0:18:53 | |
And he said, "Yes, there's a photo behind you." | 0:18:53 | 0:18:57 | |
So I said, "Oh, that's fantastic." | 0:18:57 | 0:19:00 | |
It was just that moment of going, | 0:19:00 | 0:19:02 | |
I finally achieved that goal that when I thought that the doors | 0:19:02 | 0:19:06 | |
were closed, the wall was built and I was never going to see it. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:09 | |
And there it was in front of me. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:10 | |
So it was, yeah, just getting to that point and going, | 0:19:10 | 0:19:13 | |
"Yeah, finally got there." | 0:19:13 | 0:19:16 | |
And Noreen's widower had more news about his mother. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:20 | |
Could Nick's search for his family be about to reveal more than | 0:19:20 | 0:19:24 | |
just a photo? | 0:19:24 | 0:19:25 | |
He thought Noreen had had another child. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:28 | |
So when I came out, I rang Kirsty and said, "He said that there's | 0:19:28 | 0:19:31 | |
"another child, but I don't think there's anything in it." | 0:19:31 | 0:19:35 | |
And she said, "OK, well, I'll just check it out." | 0:19:35 | 0:19:37 | |
And five minutes later, she rang me back and said, | 0:19:37 | 0:19:41 | |
"I think you may have a sister." | 0:19:41 | 0:19:42 | |
Jean Heathcote's search for her birth mother had also | 0:19:51 | 0:19:54 | |
revealed an unexpected discovery - a half sister, Marie. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:59 | |
But when both sisters had made contact with their mother, | 0:19:59 | 0:20:02 | |
their advances had been rejected. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:05 | |
So Jean's quest for details about her early life continued. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:08 | |
I had a message from a lady called Diana Kelly, who said, | 0:20:08 | 0:20:14 | |
"Hello, I'd like to ask you a few questions | 0:20:14 | 0:20:17 | |
"cos I think I could be related to you." | 0:20:17 | 0:20:20 | |
Diana Kelly, from Bristol, had been browsing a family finding | 0:20:21 | 0:20:24 | |
website in the hope of finding out about her birth mother. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:28 | |
I was just going through this site, and suddenly, | 0:20:30 | 0:20:32 | |
up came my mum's name, Sheila Mary Kelly. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:35 | |
And on top, the name was Jean Heathcote. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:38 | |
With all my mum's details. | 0:20:38 | 0:20:40 | |
She was doing a search as well. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:42 | |
It turned out that Jean Annemarie had yet another half-sister. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:47 | |
Well, I was born in 1951 in St Mary's, | 0:20:47 | 0:20:50 | |
in Paddington, London. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:52 | |
Within six weeks, I was handed over to a foster family. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:57 | |
As she grew older, Diana began to guess that her foster parents | 0:20:57 | 0:21:00 | |
weren't her parents by birth. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:03 | |
It wasn't until I was about eight or nine that suddenly | 0:21:03 | 0:21:07 | |
I thought about it. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:09 | |
I questioned why my name was different. | 0:21:09 | 0:21:12 | |
And my foster dad said to me, | 0:21:12 | 0:21:14 | |
"You know, you don't want to know your mum, she's not a nice lady." | 0:21:14 | 0:21:18 | |
I always remember those words. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:20 | |
As one of the many foster children in the 1960s and early '70s, | 0:21:21 | 0:21:25 | |
Diana was affected by a change in the way the state approached | 0:21:25 | 0:21:29 | |
placing children in care. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:31 | |
Local authorities began to favour putting children in foster homes | 0:21:31 | 0:21:34 | |
rather than with adoptive parents. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:37 | |
Fostering is viewed as a temporary measure with the hope that the | 0:21:37 | 0:21:41 | |
child will be placed back in their birth parents' care, | 0:21:41 | 0:21:43 | |
should circumstances change. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:45 | |
-READS: -And they all lived together happily ever after. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:50 | |
This shift was coupled with a general decline in the numbers | 0:21:50 | 0:21:54 | |
of children of unwed mothers being placed in care. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:57 | |
Since the late-1960s, there was a huge decline | 0:21:57 | 0:22:00 | |
in the number of babies adopted in the UK. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:02 | |
There are various factors for this - | 0:22:02 | 0:22:03 | |
one being increased knowledge of contraception, | 0:22:03 | 0:22:06 | |
another the Abortion Act that was brought in which meant that a woman | 0:22:06 | 0:22:10 | |
had a viable alternative to ending a pregnancy, | 0:22:10 | 0:22:13 | |
and also, really, | 0:22:13 | 0:22:14 | |
the fact that they could bring the child up themselves | 0:22:14 | 0:22:17 | |
because there was less of a social stigma by that period. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:19 | |
But fostering didn't always work, as in Diana's case. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:26 | |
As she grew older, she repeatedly ran away from her foster family. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:30 | |
In the end, they put me into a home. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:33 | |
It was all right. I ran away from there. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:35 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:22:35 | 0:22:37 | |
Diana stayed in care until she was old enough to rent | 0:22:37 | 0:22:40 | |
a flat of her own. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:42 | |
Now she felt independent enough to begin to trace her family. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:45 | |
I think I started my search when I was about 20. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:50 | |
21. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:51 | |
You know, I wanted to know a bit of who I belonged to. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:55 | |
I think you need...you want a sense of... | 0:22:55 | 0:22:59 | |
..a sense of belonging, really. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:09 | |
Diana applied to the General Register Office to find out | 0:23:13 | 0:23:16 | |
more information about her mother. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:18 | |
The only information I actually had on my mother | 0:23:18 | 0:23:21 | |
was her birth certificate. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:22 | |
I knew her name was Sheila Mary Kelly, | 0:23:22 | 0:23:25 | |
where she was living while she was expecting me, | 0:23:25 | 0:23:28 | |
her date of birth, and that was it. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:30 | |
Hampered by a lack of information and self-doubt, | 0:23:30 | 0:23:34 | |
Diana went through years of unsuccessful searching. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:37 | |
In 2009, came a glimmer of hope | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
when she was browsing a family finding website. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:43 | |
My first breakthrough, really, was... | 0:23:44 | 0:23:47 | |
I think it was called Missing You. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:49 | |
And I was just sat there one day, going through it, | 0:23:50 | 0:23:55 | |
and my mum's name popped up on there. | 0:23:55 | 0:23:58 | |
So I kept reading it, | 0:23:58 | 0:24:01 | |
kept reading it, and I'm thinking, | 0:24:01 | 0:24:03 | |
"Oh, well. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:05 | |
"As you do, Diana, you know what you're like." | 0:24:05 | 0:24:07 | |
Picked up the phone, didn't I? | 0:24:07 | 0:24:10 | |
And I rang her. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:12 | |
Diana had come across one of the adverts posted by Jean, | 0:24:12 | 0:24:15 | |
and it seemed they shared a mother who would make them half-sisters. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:19 | |
It took me a while to actually realise that she was related | 0:24:21 | 0:24:24 | |
to us and to actually, in some ways, come to terms with that. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:28 | |
Jean told Diana that she had already found their other half-sister, | 0:24:30 | 0:24:34 | |
so Diana looked her up too. | 0:24:34 | 0:24:37 | |
Sat in the kitchen and up came Marie. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:40 | |
I was on Facebook | 0:24:40 | 0:24:42 | |
and a message came up asking me | 0:24:42 | 0:24:46 | |
if my mother was called Sheila Mary Kelly. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:50 | |
And I thought, "Well, yes." So I replied yes. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:54 | |
And up popped an answer saying, | 0:24:54 | 0:24:58 | |
"Well, I think that I could be your sister." | 0:24:58 | 0:25:00 | |
And I thought, "Oh, my, not another one!" | 0:25:00 | 0:25:03 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:25:03 | 0:25:04 | |
We chatted for ages. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:06 | |
Yeah. And the next day. And the next day. | 0:25:06 | 0:25:10 | |
I feel like I've known her all my life. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:12 | |
We did meet quite quickly after we spoke on the phone, | 0:25:14 | 0:25:17 | |
and it was wonderful to see her. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:19 | |
And it will be wonderful to see her again. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:22 | |
Well, Marie and Jean had met each other. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:24 | |
I've only met Marie, so... | 0:25:26 | 0:25:28 | |
Jean and Diana are meeting for the very first time, and I know, | 0:25:29 | 0:25:34 | |
having spoken to both of them, | 0:25:34 | 0:25:36 | |
that they are both absolutely terrified | 0:25:36 | 0:25:39 | |
of what's going to happen. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:41 | |
I said, "Look, I'll bring a big box of tissues, you'll be fine." | 0:25:41 | 0:25:44 | |
Today, the three sisters - Jean, Marie and Diana - | 0:25:44 | 0:25:48 | |
are getting together for the first time. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:51 | |
For decades, they all had been searching for their shared | 0:25:51 | 0:25:54 | |
mother, unaware of each other's existence. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:57 | |
The sisters are hoping this meeting will cement a stronger | 0:25:58 | 0:26:02 | |
bond for the future. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:04 | |
Sisterhood is what I aim to get from today. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:08 | |
I think it's... It will be nice to have that closeness. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:13 | |
I'm determined now | 0:26:13 | 0:26:15 | |
because I really do need to have contact with my sisters. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:20 | |
I am nervous, yeah. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:21 | |
And excited. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:25 | |
-Hello. -Hello, you! | 0:26:31 | 0:26:33 | |
THEY SQUEAL HAPPILY | 0:26:33 | 0:26:37 | |
It's lovely! It's wonderful. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:39 | |
-Have a seat, darling. -Thank you. -All right? -Yeah. You all right? | 0:26:39 | 0:26:43 | |
Yeah, I'm fine, thank you. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:45 | |
-You look good. -Do I? -Yeah, you've got a different colour hair. -Yeah. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:48 | |
-Yeah. You look great. -Yes. -Don't cry. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:53 | |
-THEY GIGGLE -Don't cry. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:55 | |
-How long is it since we've seen each other? -Way overdue. | 0:26:55 | 0:26:59 | |
Way, way overdue for both of us. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:01 | |
But I think it would be nice to actually be able to | 0:27:01 | 0:27:05 | |
-include Diana as well now. -Yes. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:07 | |
It will just be more like a sisterhood, getting together. | 0:27:07 | 0:27:10 | |
-Yes, yeah. -It's a good thing. | 0:27:10 | 0:27:13 | |
-I mean, I was trying to work out when she finally... -Well, me first. | 0:27:13 | 0:27:18 | |
-And then me. -Then you. -Yeah. -Then her. -Right. | 0:27:18 | 0:27:22 | |
So... I mean, I still want to know who my dad is. Do we know? | 0:27:22 | 0:27:26 | |
-No. -No. I guess we've got the same father. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:29 | |
I don't think so. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:31 | |
We can always hope. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:32 | |
Well, we could, couldn't we? Yes, you know. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:35 | |
Yeah. | 0:27:35 | 0:27:36 | |
Finally, the sister who was most recently found, Diana. | 0:27:38 | 0:27:42 | |
She'll be here any minute. | 0:27:42 | 0:27:44 | |
Oh, my goodness me! | 0:27:53 | 0:27:55 | |
Hello! Hello! | 0:27:55 | 0:27:58 | |
Good to see you. And this is your sister. | 0:27:58 | 0:28:01 | |
I know! | 0:28:01 | 0:28:03 | |
-Are you all right? -Don't cry, darling. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:07 | |
Aw. | 0:28:07 | 0:28:09 | |
Aw. Don't cry. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:12 | |
This is fabulous. Come on, darling, come and sit down. Come on. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:18 | |
Oh! Girls together. | 0:28:18 | 0:28:20 | |
-Nice to see you. -And you too. -At last. -At last. I know. | 0:28:21 | 0:28:25 | |
-You all right? -Yeah. | 0:28:25 | 0:28:28 | |
-You can see the family similarity between you two. -Yeah, you can. | 0:28:30 | 0:28:33 | |
-Can you? -Yeah. -I can see there's a similarity between us as well. -Yeah. | 0:28:33 | 0:28:40 | |
I've got so much stuff here to show you... | 0:28:40 | 0:28:43 | |
-Fantastic. -..you won't believe it. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:45 | |
-Cos I don't have anything. -She's got nothing at all. | 0:28:45 | 0:28:47 | |
-Anything at all. All I got is one photograph of Mum. -Yeah. | 0:28:47 | 0:28:52 | |
Are you ready for this, girls? Go on, then. | 0:28:52 | 0:28:56 | |
Our whole life is in a box. | 0:28:56 | 0:28:58 | |
Right, this is Mother. | 0:28:58 | 0:29:00 | |
She was quite attractive, wasn't she? | 0:29:00 | 0:29:02 | |
Yeah, she was quite a glamorous lady, wasn't she? | 0:29:02 | 0:29:05 | |
And here she is with a baby. | 0:29:05 | 0:29:07 | |
-Now... -THEY LAUGH | 0:29:07 | 0:29:10 | |
It's A baby girl. Now, who it is, I haven't got a clue. | 0:29:10 | 0:29:14 | |
-Look at her hair! -I know, she had fantastic hair. | 0:29:14 | 0:29:17 | |
Amazing. Amazing. | 0:29:17 | 0:29:19 | |
-That's 1947, that one, we think. -Got to be your father. | 0:29:19 | 0:29:24 | |
-You think so? -I think so. | 0:29:24 | 0:29:26 | |
Yeah. OK. Well, I think he's a very handsome man, actually. | 0:29:26 | 0:29:29 | |
-Yeah, I'm quite happy with that. -Got nice eyes. | 0:29:29 | 0:29:32 | |
-This is her on her wedding day. -Which one? | 0:29:32 | 0:29:35 | |
-She only had one. -Oh, right. | 0:29:35 | 0:29:38 | |
And how do you feel about seeing | 0:29:38 | 0:29:40 | |
these photographs of your mum, girls? | 0:29:40 | 0:29:42 | |
-Well... -Well... -Such a dainty little thing. -She was a stunner. | 0:29:42 | 0:29:46 | |
-To be fair. -An absolute stunner. | 0:29:46 | 0:29:49 | |
It's incredible, isn't it? | 0:29:49 | 0:29:51 | |
These three sisters may never know much about their mother | 0:29:51 | 0:29:54 | |
and the truth behind their adoptions, but it | 0:29:54 | 0:29:57 | |
seems their relationship is reward enough for having found each other. | 0:29:57 | 0:30:01 | |
Well, girls, together after all this time. | 0:30:01 | 0:30:04 | |
-Well, it's about time, I think. -I know, but amazing. | 0:30:04 | 0:30:06 | |
-Absolutely amazing. -I don't think... As you said earlier, I don't think | 0:30:06 | 0:30:10 | |
-without the internet... -It would never have happened. | 0:30:10 | 0:30:12 | |
No, it wouldn't have happened. | 0:30:12 | 0:30:13 | |
I'm just glad that we've actually done it now while we're still here. | 0:30:13 | 0:30:17 | |
-Well, that's... -We're still able. | 0:30:17 | 0:30:18 | |
Yeah! Or just about able. | 0:30:18 | 0:30:21 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:30:21 | 0:30:23 | |
Today is a day I never thought would happen. | 0:30:23 | 0:30:25 | |
I never ever thought it would happen. | 0:30:27 | 0:30:29 | |
And I am so happy. | 0:30:31 | 0:30:33 | |
It's taken me over 20 years to get to this stage, you know? | 0:30:33 | 0:30:37 | |
-Just... -SHE SIGHS | 0:30:37 | 0:30:39 | |
..the relief to see those two together, it's fantastic. | 0:30:39 | 0:30:43 | |
It's been amazing. It's been truly amazing. | 0:30:43 | 0:30:45 | |
I've loved every minute of it. | 0:30:45 | 0:30:47 | |
And I think that we will again spend some time together. | 0:30:47 | 0:30:52 | |
Fair bit, I hope. | 0:30:52 | 0:30:53 | |
Part of it is closure, I think, | 0:30:53 | 0:30:55 | |
knowing that you are part of...someone. | 0:30:55 | 0:30:59 | |
Nick Morgan's search for his birth mother had also produced | 0:31:09 | 0:31:12 | |
a remarkable result. | 0:31:12 | 0:31:14 | |
Family finder Kirsty Gray had discovered he too had a sister. | 0:31:14 | 0:31:18 | |
She said, "There's a girl called Deborah Marie Lowe, | 0:31:18 | 0:31:23 | |
"born in Coventry to a Norah Margaret Lowe in 1958." | 0:31:23 | 0:31:30 | |
And then she said, "She was adopted. | 0:31:30 | 0:31:32 | |
"And therefore, I can't find out any more." | 0:31:32 | 0:31:35 | |
Desperate to trace his sister, Nick returned to visit his mum | 0:31:35 | 0:31:40 | |
Noreen's widower, who, in the interim, | 0:31:40 | 0:31:42 | |
had remembered more details. | 0:31:42 | 0:31:44 | |
He was able to tell me exactly what her surname was, | 0:31:46 | 0:31:52 | |
which was now Wright, and approximately where she lived, | 0:31:52 | 0:31:55 | |
which was on the outskirts of Coventry. | 0:31:55 | 0:31:58 | |
I was absolutely astounded. | 0:31:58 | 0:32:00 | |
The fact that there was a person out there, | 0:32:00 | 0:32:03 | |
having been an only child for so long, for... | 0:32:03 | 0:32:07 | |
I couldn't believe that there was anyone that actually existed. | 0:32:07 | 0:32:10 | |
I was shocked, | 0:32:10 | 0:32:11 | |
just shocked to the point of not knowing almost what to do next. | 0:32:11 | 0:32:15 | |
Kirsty, the Family Finder, was called into action again. | 0:32:15 | 0:32:21 | |
She did the records, got the...went on the computer and said, | 0:32:21 | 0:32:24 | |
"Yeah, I've got the address and I've got a telephone number. | 0:32:24 | 0:32:27 | |
"Do you want to ring her now?" I went, "Oh, no! | 0:32:27 | 0:32:29 | |
"No. Whoa, that's too fast. | 0:32:29 | 0:32:31 | |
"That's all too fast." | 0:32:31 | 0:32:33 | |
So I said, "We need to write." | 0:32:33 | 0:32:35 | |
So over the course of that week, we composed a letter which | 0:32:35 | 0:32:38 | |
we felt would get her attention but wouldn't scare her off too much. | 0:32:38 | 0:32:41 | |
I didn't want to be rejected again. | 0:32:41 | 0:32:43 | |
But I was really, really excited about the thought that | 0:32:43 | 0:32:45 | |
I might find somebody. | 0:32:45 | 0:32:46 | |
In Coventry, an unsuspecting Deborah Wright was about to | 0:32:49 | 0:32:52 | |
have her world turned upside down. | 0:32:52 | 0:32:55 | |
It was July the 5th and I emptied the postbox and there was a letter. | 0:32:56 | 0:33:02 | |
And then the first thing that I spotted in bold | 0:33:02 | 0:33:05 | |
was my natural mother's name. | 0:33:05 | 0:33:08 | |
So I was intrigued by this letter. | 0:33:08 | 0:33:11 | |
Deborah got in touch with Kirsty. | 0:33:11 | 0:33:14 | |
She said, "Well, actually, I'm not trying to trace | 0:33:14 | 0:33:20 | |
"relatives of Norah, | 0:33:20 | 0:33:21 | |
"I'm working for a client who's trying to trace you." | 0:33:21 | 0:33:26 | |
And I went, "Me?" | 0:33:26 | 0:33:28 | |
And she said, "Yes, you've got a brother." | 0:33:28 | 0:33:32 | |
And I just said, "No, I haven't got a brother, I think | 0:33:32 | 0:33:35 | |
"you've got the wrong person because I'm an only child." | 0:33:35 | 0:33:38 | |
Deborah was born in 1958 to Norah Lowe, | 0:33:40 | 0:33:44 | |
but as an unmarried mother, Norah felt unable to care for her. | 0:33:44 | 0:33:48 | |
She then knew that she couldn't look after me, so she advertised me | 0:33:49 | 0:33:53 | |
in the local newspaper | 0:33:53 | 0:33:55 | |
and my adoptive parents answered the advert. | 0:33:55 | 0:33:59 | |
Deborah was fostered by Mr and Mrs Priest, | 0:33:59 | 0:34:02 | |
who nurtured and cared for her. | 0:34:02 | 0:34:04 | |
When I was 14, I met Denis. | 0:34:04 | 0:34:07 | |
And then when I was 17, we knew that we wanted to get married. | 0:34:07 | 0:34:11 | |
Even at that early age, I think that we | 0:34:11 | 0:34:13 | |
knew we were right for each other. | 0:34:13 | 0:34:15 | |
So I wanted my name in church to be said Deborah Priest. | 0:34:15 | 0:34:20 | |
Desperate to use her beloved parents' name | 0:34:20 | 0:34:23 | |
on her wedding day, she needed them to legally adopt her. | 0:34:23 | 0:34:26 | |
But that involved getting back in touch with her birth mother | 0:34:26 | 0:34:30 | |
so that she could sign the papers. | 0:34:30 | 0:34:33 | |
The social worker managed to trace Norah, | 0:34:33 | 0:34:35 | |
who was living in Coventry, | 0:34:35 | 0:34:37 | |
and Norah said that she would like to meet me. | 0:34:37 | 0:34:40 | |
And so the social worker returned to tell me this | 0:34:40 | 0:34:45 | |
and asked me if I would like to meet Norah, which I di... | 0:34:45 | 0:34:48 | |
I wasn't interested in. | 0:34:48 | 0:34:49 | |
One, at the time, I didn't think that | 0:34:49 | 0:34:52 | |
I really wanted to meet her, but also, | 0:34:52 | 0:34:54 | |
I knew what it would do to Mum and Dad if I did go to meet her. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:57 | |
It's a sign of loyalty, I think, really, | 0:34:57 | 0:34:59 | |
for what their parents had certainly done for Deb | 0:34:59 | 0:35:03 | |
over their lifetime and her lifetime, of course. | 0:35:03 | 0:35:06 | |
What Deborah did agree to was swapping photos. | 0:35:06 | 0:35:10 | |
It was the first time she'd seen an image of her birth mother. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:14 | |
I do regret that I didn't meet Norah at 17 because, | 0:35:14 | 0:35:17 | |
with her being 39 when she had me, | 0:35:17 | 0:35:20 | |
obviously she was moving on in years. | 0:35:20 | 0:35:23 | |
And when I was finally ready to meet her, it was too late. | 0:35:23 | 0:35:26 | |
When she was 39, after the death of her adoptive mother, Deborah | 0:35:26 | 0:35:30 | |
decided she wanted to trace Norah, so put an advert in a local paper. | 0:35:30 | 0:35:35 | |
So it turned around, really. | 0:35:35 | 0:35:37 | |
I was advertised by Norah in a paper | 0:35:37 | 0:35:40 | |
and then I tried to advertise to get Norah back. | 0:35:40 | 0:35:44 | |
A friend of Deborah's offered help in the search. | 0:35:44 | 0:35:47 | |
And it wasn't long before she found a record of Norah, | 0:35:47 | 0:35:50 | |
but she had died five years previously. | 0:35:50 | 0:35:53 | |
I grieved for Norah the same as I grieved my adoptive mum. | 0:35:54 | 0:35:59 | |
It really, really upset me. | 0:35:59 | 0:36:00 | |
And I couldn't understand those feelings | 0:36:00 | 0:36:02 | |
because I had never known her. | 0:36:02 | 0:36:04 | |
But it was because I knew then that I had no chance of ever, | 0:36:04 | 0:36:07 | |
ever seeing her and asking the questions that I wanted answered. | 0:36:07 | 0:36:13 | |
So I was very, very sad. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:15 | |
I was told by the social worker that there weren't any other children, | 0:36:15 | 0:36:18 | |
Norah had only ever had me, at 39. | 0:36:18 | 0:36:21 | |
So then, you know, searching for siblings, I thought, | 0:36:21 | 0:36:26 | |
was impossible, really, | 0:36:26 | 0:36:28 | |
that she wouldn't have had any other children. | 0:36:28 | 0:36:30 | |
But that all changed | 0:36:30 | 0:36:31 | |
when Deborah was contacted by a Family Finder called Kirsty Gray. | 0:36:31 | 0:36:35 | |
She said, "You have got a brother." | 0:36:36 | 0:36:38 | |
And I was just shell-shocked. I couldn't speak, I was so shocked. | 0:36:38 | 0:36:43 | |
Because it was everything I'd ever wanted. But it was like a dream. | 0:36:43 | 0:36:48 | |
There was a brief silence at the end of the phone and she then said, | 0:36:48 | 0:36:52 | |
"I've always wanted an older brother, | 0:36:52 | 0:36:55 | |
"but I was told I was an only child." | 0:36:55 | 0:36:57 | |
I just said that I felt that I'd won the lottery. | 0:36:57 | 0:37:01 | |
Nick and Deborah couldn't wait to meet. | 0:37:01 | 0:37:05 | |
It was just texting back and forth all night. | 0:37:05 | 0:37:08 | |
And then we arranged to meet the next day. | 0:37:08 | 0:37:12 | |
From having only found out 24 hours earlier that she had a brother, | 0:37:12 | 0:37:17 | |
and now 24 hours after that, she was actually going to meet me. | 0:37:17 | 0:37:19 | |
The time had arrived for the siblings to come | 0:37:19 | 0:37:22 | |
face to face for the first time. | 0:37:22 | 0:37:25 | |
She walked towards me, I walked towards her, | 0:37:25 | 0:37:27 | |
and we hugged and then we went and sat down | 0:37:27 | 0:37:30 | |
for about an hour and a half and did 60 years' worth of life. | 0:37:30 | 0:37:34 | |
It was just so easy and natural. We didn't realise the time. | 0:37:34 | 0:37:38 | |
-It was just so...easy, yeah. We got on so well, didn't we? -Yeah, we did. | 0:37:38 | 0:37:43 | |
-As well as can be. -Yeah. | 0:37:43 | 0:37:45 | |
It was great. It was a great meeting. | 0:37:45 | 0:37:47 | |
Since July 2015, the siblings have only met once more. | 0:37:49 | 0:37:53 | |
So today, Nick is going back to Coventry to spend the day | 0:37:55 | 0:37:59 | |
with his sister and her family. | 0:37:59 | 0:38:01 | |
Deborah's children, Daniel and Gemma, | 0:38:01 | 0:38:04 | |
have never met their uncle Nick. | 0:38:04 | 0:38:06 | |
THEY TALK OVER EACH OTHER | 0:38:07 | 0:38:11 | |
Never ever consider that Mum would ever have any siblings. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:15 | |
It just didn't seem like a possibility. | 0:38:15 | 0:38:18 | |
I know that Mum's always wanted a big brother, | 0:38:18 | 0:38:20 | |
so it's perfect that this has happened. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:22 | |
And I just feel that she's so lucky that she'll get to experience | 0:38:22 | 0:38:27 | |
what I've always had with Daniel. | 0:38:27 | 0:38:29 | |
I don't know, I think it feels like quite a big moment now. | 0:38:29 | 0:38:33 | |
Cos it's been a long time coming. | 0:38:33 | 0:38:35 | |
-It's been, like, ages since you met, so... -Yeah. | 0:38:35 | 0:38:39 | |
We quite feel like we know him already. | 0:38:39 | 0:38:41 | |
But we haven't actually met him yet, have we? | 0:38:41 | 0:38:43 | |
Yeah, I'm really happy that we've got an uncle. | 0:38:43 | 0:38:46 | |
And a whole other family. | 0:38:46 | 0:38:48 | |
And what's lovely, there's common ground. | 0:38:48 | 0:38:50 | |
So we went to the same university. | 0:38:50 | 0:38:52 | |
He lived, like, quite nearby where I lived in Bristol. | 0:38:52 | 0:38:56 | |
Really excited to meet uncle Nick. Yeah, really am. | 0:38:56 | 0:38:58 | |
I'm going to give him a big hug. | 0:38:58 | 0:39:00 | |
And I feel very excited that I'm going to finally meet them, | 0:39:02 | 0:39:06 | |
having spoken about them and talked about them for so long. | 0:39:06 | 0:39:09 | |
It really finishes off the circle. It's... | 0:39:09 | 0:39:13 | |
Meeting Gemma and Daniel are the final parts of the puzzle. | 0:39:13 | 0:39:17 | |
It's been a long time in the making, this visit, | 0:39:17 | 0:39:20 | |
trying to get it sorted out, so it'll be really good | 0:39:20 | 0:39:23 | |
to finally make that final part so we can be a proper family. | 0:39:23 | 0:39:27 | |
Five months after meeting Deborah for the first time, | 0:39:27 | 0:39:30 | |
Nick has arrived at her home to meet the rest of his family. | 0:39:30 | 0:39:34 | |
-Hello, nice to meet you. -Long time no see. | 0:39:38 | 0:39:42 | |
-Lovely to see you. -Come along. | 0:39:44 | 0:39:46 | |
At last, uncle Nick! | 0:39:46 | 0:39:48 | |
This is Gemma. | 0:39:48 | 0:39:50 | |
-NICK: -Lovely to meet you! Hello. | 0:39:52 | 0:39:55 | |
-Let's... Oh, yes. -This is Daniel. -Uncle Nick. | 0:39:55 | 0:39:58 | |
Lovely to s... Lovely to meet you. How are you doing? | 0:40:00 | 0:40:04 | |
Great to see you again. | 0:40:04 | 0:40:06 | |
-Has it been worth waiting for? -Do you think we're alike? | 0:40:07 | 0:40:11 | |
I think you have quite similar eyes. I can see it. | 0:40:11 | 0:40:14 | |
-DANIEL: -I can definitely see it. | 0:40:14 | 0:40:16 | |
-'I don't know, I think it's your mouth as well.' -They're always open. | 0:40:17 | 0:40:21 | |
-'Yeah.' -THEY LAUGH | 0:40:21 | 0:40:24 | |
Do you want a cup of tea, then? | 0:40:24 | 0:40:25 | |
Lovely, yeah, that'd be great. Thank you very much. | 0:40:25 | 0:40:28 | |
-GEMMA: -'It was just really, really lovely to see him and meet him.' | 0:40:28 | 0:40:31 | |
-Give him a big hug, both of us. -It was like meeting Mum again. | 0:40:31 | 0:40:35 | |
It was really strange. | 0:40:35 | 0:40:37 | |
It's just really nice just to sit around and have a conversation. | 0:40:38 | 0:40:41 | |
-And I think it didn't feel... -It felt like we'd known him for years. | 0:40:41 | 0:40:45 | |
-It didn't feel forced, did it? -No, not at all. | 0:40:45 | 0:40:47 | |
Did you expect me to be small and petite? | 0:40:47 | 0:40:49 | |
-I expected you to be smaller, yeah. -Smaller. | 0:40:49 | 0:40:52 | |
-I expected you to be bigger. -Yeah! -THEY LAUGH | 0:40:52 | 0:40:55 | |
Yeah, we got rid of the big sister... | 0:40:55 | 0:40:57 | |
big brother little sister thing, didn't we, quite quickly? | 0:40:57 | 0:41:00 | |
Straight to older and younger. | 0:41:00 | 0:41:03 | |
Older! | 0:41:03 | 0:41:04 | |
It's really nice to see the rapport that uncle Nick and Mum have got. | 0:41:06 | 0:41:10 | |
You know, that kind of good banter. | 0:41:10 | 0:41:13 | |
-Yeah, you can just tell they're brother and sister, can't you? -Yeah. | 0:41:13 | 0:41:16 | |
I think at one point they even started bickering, didn't they? | 0:41:16 | 0:41:18 | |
A little bit, yeah. | 0:41:18 | 0:41:20 | |
And his expressions are a lot like Mum's as well, which obviously... | 0:41:20 | 0:41:24 | |
-He's got twinkly eyes, and Mum's got twinkly eyes. -Really similar. | 0:41:24 | 0:41:27 | |
-Yeah. -Just the way they smile as well. | 0:41:27 | 0:41:29 | |
-Our lives have changed for the better. -They have. | 0:41:29 | 0:41:32 | |
It's a new family, but we still live our own lives, | 0:41:32 | 0:41:34 | |
the lives that we've lived for all the time. Now we've just got | 0:41:34 | 0:41:37 | |
an additional bit on the top, it's like having the cream. | 0:41:37 | 0:41:39 | |
Yeah, like you say, you're just a little bit of cream. | 0:41:39 | 0:41:42 | |
-Yeah. -On the top. | 0:41:42 | 0:41:43 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:41:43 | 0:41:46 | |
Having been an only child for 60 years, | 0:41:46 | 0:41:49 | |
and my son David's an only child and my mate across the road, | 0:41:49 | 0:41:51 | |
Andy, is an only child, so we're part of the only child club. | 0:41:51 | 0:41:54 | |
And I'm not any more. I'm out. | 0:41:54 | 0:41:56 | |
-GEMMA: -It's something we've always known. | 0:41:56 | 0:41:58 | |
I can't remember Daniel not being in my life | 0:41:58 | 0:42:01 | |
because there's only 18 months between us. | 0:42:01 | 0:42:03 | |
And that kind of sibling bond, love that we have for each other, | 0:42:03 | 0:42:06 | |
I just felt like... The one thing when Mum kind of told me | 0:42:06 | 0:42:10 | |
about you, I just thought, "Mum will get to experience that as well." | 0:42:10 | 0:42:15 | |
And so will you now. And I just think that's what's...lovely. | 0:42:15 | 0:42:18 | |
You've waited 60 years for it, | 0:42:18 | 0:42:20 | |
but, you know, you've got years and years to come. | 0:42:20 | 0:42:23 | |
-NICK: -Your mum's waited slightly less. | 0:42:23 | 0:42:24 | |
-Yeah. -A LOT less. | 0:42:24 | 0:42:26 | |
Nearly 60 years. | 0:42:28 | 0:42:29 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:42:29 | 0:42:31 | |
-It has brought joy to our lives, hasn't it? -Yeah, extra joy. | 0:42:31 | 0:42:34 | |
Because we didn't know about each other | 0:42:34 | 0:42:36 | |
and then this news that I've got a brother | 0:42:36 | 0:42:38 | |
and you've got a sister is obviously going to bring joy, not sadness. | 0:42:38 | 0:42:43 | |
I've got all these years to look forward to, | 0:42:43 | 0:42:45 | |
to keep having the banter. | 0:42:45 | 0:42:47 | |
-Keep having fun together. -Keep practising my jokes. | 0:42:47 | 0:42:49 | |
-And having fun together with our families. -Having fun together, yeah. | 0:42:49 | 0:42:52 | |
-Cheers. -To all the family. | 0:42:52 | 0:42:54 | |
It's fantastic, yeah. | 0:42:54 | 0:42:56 |