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Families can be driven apart for all manner of reasons. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
I had no information at all about where my mum went. | 0:00:04 | 0:00:07 | |
And when you do lose touch with your loved ones... | 0:00:07 | 0:00:10 | |
You don't know who you are, where've you come from. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:12 | |
..finding them can take a lifetime. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:15 | |
I might have a brother that's still living here. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:19 | |
Especially when they could be anywhere. At home or abroad. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:23 | |
And that's where the Family Finders come in. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:26 | |
From international organisations... | 0:00:26 | 0:00:28 | |
Hi, it's The Salvation Army Family Tracing Service. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:32 | |
..to genealogy detective agencies... | 0:00:32 | 0:00:34 | |
For someone to say that it's changed their life, | 0:00:34 | 0:00:37 | |
it makes coming to work, you know, really, really special. | 0:00:37 | 0:00:40 | |
..and dedicated one-man bands. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:42 | |
It's a matter of how much effort you really want to put into it. | 0:00:42 | 0:00:46 | |
How badly you want to solve the problem. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:48 | |
They hunt through history to bring families back together again. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:52 | |
Finding new family is wonderful. | 0:00:52 | 0:00:55 | |
In this series, we follow the work of the Family Finders... | 0:00:55 | 0:00:59 | |
Suddenly, you get one spark of breakthrough and there they are. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:04 | |
..learning the tricks they use to track missing relatives through time... | 0:01:04 | 0:01:08 | |
I didn't think I'd ever find my sisters but I have. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:13 | |
..and meeting the people whose lives they change along the way. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:17 | |
I've been waiting to meet John my whole life. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:20 | |
Since we've met, I feel part of a family again. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:22 | |
You've just completed my life for me. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:25 | |
When it comes to tracking down lost family members, you don't | 0:01:33 | 0:01:36 | |
always have to pay for a professional service | 0:01:36 | 0:01:39 | |
or seek outside help. | 0:01:39 | 0:01:41 | |
In the age of the internet, anyone can become a family detective. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:44 | |
Today, we follow one man's mission to find out about his | 0:01:47 | 0:01:50 | |
grandfather which uncovered a family lost across the generations. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:54 | |
Well, that's really quite shocking, actually, in a pleasant kind of way. | 0:01:55 | 0:02:00 | |
It's as if it's meant to be. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:02 | |
And Lynn who spent years trying to track down her long-lost brother. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:07 | |
A million things went through my head, | 0:02:07 | 0:02:09 | |
what I thought I would say to him, | 0:02:09 | 0:02:10 | |
and I practised it and practised it and practised it and then I rang | 0:02:10 | 0:02:13 | |
the number and just before I put the last digit in, I put the phone down | 0:02:13 | 0:02:18 | |
and if I did that once, I must have done it 20 times. | 0:02:18 | 0:02:21 | |
53-year-old Simon Wrigley was born and brought up on the Isle of Wight. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:31 | |
It was a great place to grow up. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:33 | |
My father was the harbour master so we were a lot of time on boats | 0:02:33 | 0:02:38 | |
and I grew up on boats and I loved the sea. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:40 | |
But at the age of 21, Simon decided to leave the island | 0:02:42 | 0:02:46 | |
and broaden his horizons. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:48 | |
And by chance, I ended up in Israel. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:50 | |
Literally by chance as a volunteer on a kibbutz. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:53 | |
I was working in the bananas and with the oranges and we were a | 0:02:53 | 0:02:56 | |
group of young people who were having a wonderful time. | 0:02:56 | 0:02:59 | |
And been there ever since. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:00 | |
Even though he's been living in Israel for over 30 years, | 0:03:00 | 0:03:05 | |
Simon has never forgotten his roots. | 0:03:05 | 0:03:08 | |
England is my home. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:09 | |
Especially the Isle of Wight and that's where I come from. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:12 | |
When you live away from your family, you realise how important they are. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:16 | |
But it wasn't until he returned to the Isle of Wight, briefly, | 0:03:18 | 0:03:22 | |
after his grandmother died that Simon began a fascination | 0:03:22 | 0:03:25 | |
with his family history. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:27 | |
When grandparents die, when they pass over, | 0:03:27 | 0:03:30 | |
the knowledge goes with them. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:32 | |
I think that living away from my family and growing older | 0:03:32 | 0:03:38 | |
and family members passing away, | 0:03:38 | 0:03:41 | |
I became aware of that more | 0:03:41 | 0:03:43 | |
and it's very important to talk to them about the past, | 0:03:43 | 0:03:48 | |
to get that knowledge from them, because if not, it goes. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:52 | |
I discovered a picture in my parents' house of my grandparents | 0:03:52 | 0:03:57 | |
and this was when they were engaged. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:01 | |
It must be around 1923. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:03 | |
I can see myself in my grandfather. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:07 | |
And I realise that nobody really had any connection with his side of the | 0:04:07 | 0:04:10 | |
family and there was this whole, sort of, mystery that nobody knew. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:16 | |
That's why I wanted to know more about him. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:19 | |
Determined to find out more about his mysterious grandfather, | 0:04:21 | 0:04:24 | |
Bernard, who had died before he was born, | 0:04:24 | 0:04:27 | |
Simon began his search close to home with his mother. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:30 | |
I asked her lots of questions because it was her father | 0:04:31 | 0:04:35 | |
and she's the only one that remembers her father. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:37 | |
She was 12 years old when he died. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:40 | |
She remembers sitting on his knee and he would sing to her and he | 0:04:40 | 0:04:46 | |
told her stories of the war and that he had a crash in a plane over France. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:53 | |
Simon knew very little else about his grandfather | 0:04:53 | 0:04:57 | |
so, determined to discover more, back in Israel, | 0:04:57 | 0:05:00 | |
he began to search, in earnest, on the internet. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:04 | |
One of the first things I discovered online was my grandfather's death | 0:05:04 | 0:05:07 | |
certificate and here's my grandfather's name on the certificate, | 0:05:07 | 0:05:11 | |
Bernard Frederick Groundsell. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:13 | |
He died at a very early age, at the age of 46 in 1949. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:18 | |
He died of lung cancer to which I didn't know. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:22 | |
It stirred an emotion in me, reading this because | 0:05:22 | 0:05:27 | |
what does this come down to, just a piece of paper saying somebody's died? But this is... This is... | 0:05:27 | 0:05:32 | |
This is somebody. This is my family. This is my... This is my grandfather. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:37 | |
And it's not just a date on a piece of paper. It was a human being. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:41 | |
Simon's search was beginning to bear fruit. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:45 | |
And now he'd started to delve into his past, he couldn't stop. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:49 | |
Next, he traced his family tree back hundreds of years. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:53 | |
We get back here to 1744. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:56 | |
It was like a piece of history in my hands. I was amazed. | 0:05:56 | 0:06:01 | |
When I read this, when I look at it, it's... | 0:06:01 | 0:06:04 | |
I think, "Who are these people? | 0:06:04 | 0:06:06 | |
"What did they do? Where did they come from?" | 0:06:06 | 0:06:09 | |
But Simon's focus kept coming back to the mysterious Bernard. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:12 | |
I realised that my grandfather was one of nine children. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:16 | |
There were so many questions that were raised which sparked my interest. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:21 | |
There was one question that really caught Simon's imagination. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:26 | |
If his grandfather had eight brothers and sisters, | 0:06:26 | 0:06:29 | |
could Simon have surviving relatives out there | 0:06:29 | 0:06:32 | |
he didn't know about? | 0:06:32 | 0:06:33 | |
He decided to investigate further. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:36 | |
His first port of call was back on the Isle of Wight. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:39 | |
I thought I'd give it a go | 0:06:41 | 0:06:42 | |
by putting an advertisement in the local paper. | 0:06:42 | 0:06:44 | |
They have a section, here, called Islanders Reunited. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:48 | |
So I thought, "I'll send an e-mail, here, and let's see if anything comes up." | 0:06:48 | 0:06:52 | |
As well as putting an advert in the local paper, Simon engaged | 0:06:54 | 0:06:58 | |
the help of the Family History Society on the Isle of Wight. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:02 | |
There are 160 of these local societies around the UK. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:06 | |
All are listed on the Federation Of Family History Society website. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:10 | |
The FFHS deal with England, Ireland and Wales. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:16 | |
If you live in Scotland, | 0:07:16 | 0:07:17 | |
you'll need to contact the Scottish Association Of Family History. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:21 | |
Local societies are a great starting point for your search | 0:07:21 | 0:07:25 | |
and can help with research tips, burial indexes and parish records. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:29 | |
Simon had been in touch with the local History Society | 0:07:33 | 0:07:36 | |
and placed an ad in the local press. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:39 | |
But with no idea if his ancestors had any surviving relatives | 0:07:39 | 0:07:42 | |
left on the Isle of Wight, | 0:07:42 | 0:07:44 | |
all he could do now was wait. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:46 | |
It must have been about six months and I got a bit, sort of... | 0:07:47 | 0:07:51 | |
..I wouldn't say given up | 0:07:52 | 0:07:53 | |
but I didn't have much hope of finding family members from this | 0:07:53 | 0:07:58 | |
but I thought, "At least I'll give it a try, you never know." | 0:07:58 | 0:08:01 | |
Was this the end of his journey to find long-lost relations or was it just the beginning? | 0:08:01 | 0:08:07 | |
54-year-old Lynn Lewis has been waiting | 0:08:16 | 0:08:18 | |
almost 40 years to find out the truth about her long-lost family. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:22 | |
Lynn grew up in Buxton, in the Peak District, with her parents, | 0:08:24 | 0:08:27 | |
Maureen and Alan, her two sisters and a brother. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:30 | |
I had a wonderful childhood. Everything we wanted, we got. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:35 | |
We were a bit spoilt, really. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:36 | |
It was always a happy home. | 0:08:37 | 0:08:39 | |
Mum and Dad, I think, planted that in us all. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:42 | |
That family was important. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:45 | |
So, I am really close to all of my family. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:49 | |
The first clue for Lynn that all may not be as it seemed came one | 0:08:51 | 0:08:55 | |
Christmas when she was hunting for presents. | 0:08:55 | 0:08:58 | |
When I was younger, I looked through Mum's drawer, | 0:08:58 | 0:09:01 | |
seeing if she was hiding anything at the side of the bed, once. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:04 | |
And I found this little black-and-white photograph of a little baby. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:07 | |
And I thought, "Who's this?" | 0:09:07 | 0:09:08 | |
But, obviously, I couldn't ask me mum because | 0:09:08 | 0:09:11 | |
I shouldn't have been rooting through her drawers. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:14 | |
Maybe it was a cousin, maybe it was a baby of a friend of Mum and Dad's or... | 0:09:14 | 0:09:19 | |
I didn't have any idea and | 0:09:19 | 0:09:22 | |
think, for one moment, it could possibly be a sibling of mine. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:27 | |
It wasn't until years later that Lynn discovered | 0:09:27 | 0:09:30 | |
the truth about the baby boy in the photo. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:32 | |
My parents told me I had an older brother when I was around 15. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:39 | |
I think they thought, at that point, I was probably old enough to | 0:09:39 | 0:09:43 | |
take on board the information. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:45 | |
It was much of a shock to me so I asked, "Will I ever see him? | 0:09:47 | 0:09:51 | |
"What does he look like?" | 0:09:51 | 0:09:52 | |
And they said, "Well, we'll never know | 0:09:52 | 0:09:55 | |
"cos we gave up all rights to have him. | 0:09:55 | 0:09:58 | |
"He was given up for adoption, you know, | 0:09:58 | 0:10:00 | |
"there's nothing you'll ever be able to do about it." | 0:10:00 | 0:10:02 | |
Mum was only 15, at the time, when she got pregnant and she said in them days | 0:10:04 | 0:10:10 | |
it wasn't allowed for you to have a baby out of wedlock and so young | 0:10:10 | 0:10:15 | |
so she was sent away to a mother and baby home to have my brother. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:20 | |
In fact, the news of 15-year-old Maureen's pregnancy had | 0:10:20 | 0:10:24 | |
a devastating effect on the family. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:26 | |
My mum went home to tell her parents that she was pregnant | 0:10:26 | 0:10:30 | |
and her mum was at the top of the stairs, at the time, and she must've | 0:10:30 | 0:10:35 | |
shouted up to her and her mother fell down the stairs | 0:10:35 | 0:10:39 | |
and died. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:41 | |
Erm, that left just my grandad then and I think it was a shock | 0:10:41 | 0:10:45 | |
and a really taboo subject. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:47 | |
She probably blamed herself for her mum dying | 0:10:49 | 0:10:52 | |
so she'd got the guilt of all that | 0:10:52 | 0:10:55 | |
and I can't imagine what she must have gone through. | 0:10:55 | 0:10:58 | |
Nobody to talk to apart from her sisters. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
Maureen was sent away to a mother and baby home | 0:11:03 | 0:11:06 | |
for the remainder of her pregnancy. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:08 | |
She cared for her new baby there for the first six weeks of his life | 0:11:08 | 0:11:12 | |
while suitable adoptive parents were found for him. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:16 | |
It was a heart-wrenching day for her. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:18 | |
She didn't want to give him away. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:20 | |
Her and my dad would have loved to have just kept the baby | 0:11:20 | 0:11:24 | |
and got married | 0:11:24 | 0:11:26 | |
and carried on with a lovely family life and that's what she craved for. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:31 | |
Both of them. Mum and Dad. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:33 | |
That's what they wanted to do | 0:11:33 | 0:11:35 | |
but the decision was taken completely out of her hands. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:40 | |
Even though Maureen was forbidden to see the baby's father, Alan, | 0:11:40 | 0:11:43 | |
the couple continued their relationship in secret | 0:11:43 | 0:11:46 | |
until, finally, three years later, they were married. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:50 | |
Shortly afterwards, | 0:11:50 | 0:11:51 | |
Lynn was born and three more siblings were to follow. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:54 | |
Mum and Dad had always wanted another boy | 0:11:54 | 0:11:56 | |
and then ten years after my youngest sister was born, | 0:11:56 | 0:12:00 | |
my mum got pregnant again | 0:12:00 | 0:12:02 | |
and they finally got the little boy that they'd always wanted. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:07 | |
It was the couple's last child together. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:10 | |
Just four years after his youngest son was born, | 0:12:10 | 0:12:13 | |
Lynn's father, Alan, was diagnosed with leukaemia. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:17 | |
The illness was too far gone for them to actually treat it. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:21 | |
And his lifespan didn't last more than six to eight months. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:25 | |
And before we turned round, he'd gone and he was only 39. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:29 | |
It was a very, very stressful and upsetting time for the whole family. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:34 | |
Despite his illness, | 0:12:34 | 0:12:36 | |
Lynn's dad walked her down the aisle on her wedding day in 1981. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:41 | |
He died just a few days later. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:43 | |
Lynn made it her mission to reunite the remaining family. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:47 | |
So I decided after my dad had died that I would see | 0:12:47 | 0:12:51 | |
whether I could find my brother. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:53 | |
I had thought about him since they'd told me when I was 15 | 0:12:53 | 0:12:57 | |
but now it become more important to me to try and find him | 0:12:57 | 0:13:00 | |
so I gathered the information from Mum, as much as I could, | 0:13:00 | 0:13:04 | |
and I was determined that, one day, I'd meet this brother of mine. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:09 | |
But Lynn's search immediately hit a brick wall that would | 0:13:11 | 0:13:14 | |
leave her frustrated for the next 25 years. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:17 | |
Because Mum had given him up for adoption, | 0:13:18 | 0:13:21 | |
I didn't have any rights to look for him. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:23 | |
He could look for us but we couldn't look for him. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:26 | |
Every programme that I watched on the TV that had anything to | 0:13:26 | 0:13:30 | |
do with adoptions... I'd be scanning the TV looking for somebody | 0:13:30 | 0:13:34 | |
that would look like my dad. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:35 | |
I even wrote to Cilla Black's Surprise Surprise. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:39 | |
But I got a letter back saying, sadly, they couldn't help me, | 0:13:39 | 0:13:42 | |
and everywhere I went it was a closed door. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:45 | |
And it wasn't until I watched a programme on the television | 0:13:46 | 0:13:49 | |
in 2005 that said, "Please dial this number | 0:13:49 | 0:13:53 | |
"if you've been affected by this programme." I dialled the number, | 0:13:53 | 0:13:58 | |
I explained what had happened | 0:13:58 | 0:14:00 | |
and I was told, then, that the law had changed a couple of years ago | 0:14:00 | 0:14:05 | |
and you, now, had a right to look for your siblings. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:09 | |
In 2005, there was | 0:14:11 | 0:14:13 | |
a change in the law which, for the first time, allowed people to | 0:14:13 | 0:14:16 | |
contact birth relatives who'd been put up for adoption. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:21 | |
This initial contact has to take place through an intermediary | 0:14:21 | 0:14:24 | |
such as an adoption agency or local authority. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:27 | |
It was because of this law change that Lynn could finally try | 0:14:29 | 0:14:33 | |
and find her long-lost brother with the help of an adoption agency. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:37 | |
I gave them as much information as I possibly could and I was told, | 0:14:37 | 0:14:41 | |
then, the procedure would be that if they found somebody | 0:14:41 | 0:14:46 | |
that was my brother, they would, then, write a letter to him explaining | 0:14:46 | 0:14:53 | |
that they had somebody that wanted to get in contact with him. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:58 | |
From there, Lynn's long, 25-year search for her brother began | 0:14:58 | 0:15:03 | |
to move very quickly. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:04 | |
I got a phone call from the agency saying they'd narrowed | 0:15:06 | 0:15:09 | |
it down to one person who they felt sure was my brother and could I | 0:15:09 | 0:15:15 | |
write a letter and send photographs that they would pass on to him. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:21 | |
So, I was so excited. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:23 | |
The emotions, the love, the scare, the fright, | 0:15:23 | 0:15:27 | |
the "What's he going to look like?" | 0:15:27 | 0:15:29 | |
You know, he could be somebody famous for all I knew. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:32 | |
He could be anything and I couldn't imagine what was | 0:15:32 | 0:15:36 | |
going to become of this but it was just so, so exciting | 0:15:36 | 0:15:39 | |
to think that I'd fi...after 25 years, | 0:15:39 | 0:15:43 | |
the door was opening and maybe he would be at the other side of it. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:47 | |
But there was still one big question that remained unanswered. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:52 | |
Would her long-lost brother want to get back in touch | 0:15:52 | 0:15:55 | |
with his birth family? | 0:15:55 | 0:15:56 | |
I wrote this long letter and left it with the adoption agency... | 0:15:58 | 0:16:02 | |
..and waited. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:05 | |
So, it all hung on whether he actually read the letter | 0:16:05 | 0:16:12 | |
and wanted to get in touch with me. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:14 | |
All Lynn could do now was wait. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:18 | |
In Israel, Simon Wrigley was also playing a waiting game. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:32 | |
What began as a desire to discover more about his grandfather | 0:16:32 | 0:16:35 | |
had become a mission to find long-lost relations on the Isle of Wight. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:39 | |
Simon had appealed online for any news of his grandfather's | 0:16:41 | 0:16:44 | |
eight brothers and sisters. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:46 | |
But, there, his search seemed to have hit a dead end. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:49 | |
From the time that I placed the advert, more or less | 0:16:51 | 0:16:54 | |
six months passed and I hadn't heard anything. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:58 | |
And, then, all of a sudden, out of the blue, I saw an e-mail. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:01 | |
It was a very emotional moment to think that somebody's read | 0:17:01 | 0:17:06 | |
the e-mail and who was a family member and I was very curious to see | 0:17:06 | 0:17:09 | |
who this person was or how they connected. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:12 | |
I was quite excited about it | 0:17:13 | 0:17:14 | |
because, at the time, I was working on the family tree myself | 0:17:14 | 0:17:17 | |
but only the bare skeleton of it and he started telling me | 0:17:17 | 0:17:20 | |
a bit of the information that he'd got together which | 0:17:20 | 0:17:22 | |
I was, then, able to piece together with the information I already had. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:26 | |
And, then, I realised that her father must be my mother's first cousin. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:31 | |
Hayley had seen Simon's ad. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:35 | |
They worked out that their grandfathers were brothers, | 0:17:35 | 0:17:38 | |
making Hayley and Simon second cousins. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:41 | |
It was very exciting when I first read the e-mail because | 0:17:41 | 0:17:44 | |
I felt there was a re-connection with the Groundsell family. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:49 | |
It was the next step for me. It was another piece in the jigsaw. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:53 | |
I'd never met my grandad. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:54 | |
He died the year I was born and the Groundsell family has always | 0:17:54 | 0:17:57 | |
been quite a mystery to me, a bit of an enigma. | 0:17:57 | 0:17:59 | |
But it turns out it's actually quite a large, extended | 0:17:59 | 0:18:03 | |
family on the island that I never even knew about. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:07 | |
And that wasn't all. Someone else saw Simon's ad. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:11 | |
Jane. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:12 | |
Her father, Frank, was another of the Groundsell brothers. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:16 | |
It was so absolutely amazing because Simon wrote back to me | 0:18:16 | 0:18:20 | |
and wanted to know what stories I knew and I filled him in with | 0:18:20 | 0:18:24 | |
quite a lot because my father was a great storyteller. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:28 | |
I knew loads of...loads of stories going right back to | 0:18:28 | 0:18:31 | |
when they were little boys. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:33 | |
I've got to know Hayley and we just clicked. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:35 | |
We got on like a house on fire. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:38 | |
Thanks to Simon's determined detective work, | 0:18:38 | 0:18:41 | |
the three cousins were able to share stories and anecdotes, | 0:18:41 | 0:18:45 | |
helping to fill in some of the gaps in their family history. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:48 | |
I don't know about the girls of the family | 0:18:48 | 0:18:50 | |
but out of the nine siblings, I think the five boys used to get up | 0:18:50 | 0:18:53 | |
to all sorts of mischief by the sound of it. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:55 | |
I know my father said if they ever came home drunk, | 0:18:55 | 0:18:57 | |
they would have to spend the night in the local police station. | 0:18:57 | 0:19:01 | |
My grandfather wouldn't entertain anybody coming in drunk. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:05 | |
I found out things about my grandad I never knew. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:08 | |
I never knew he was in a rodeo so that was, like, wow. | 0:19:08 | 0:19:13 | |
This clipping came out of a local paper on the island. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:16 | |
Then, I came across my grandfather's name in this. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:20 | |
My grandfather and his brothers were part of a horse riding act. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:24 | |
I believe he's the one on the top. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:26 | |
They formed a pyramid | 0:19:26 | 0:19:27 | |
so here he is standing on a horse with his brothers. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:31 | |
There's four of his brothers here. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:33 | |
-They used to lead the carnivals...a lot of island carnivals. -Yeah. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:36 | |
They used to lead the procession. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:38 | |
As more of Simon's grandfather's relatives came to light, | 0:19:42 | 0:19:45 | |
the cousins decided to celebrate their new-found family | 0:19:45 | 0:19:49 | |
by arranging a reunion in 2004. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:51 | |
Simon flew back from Israel to meet them all for the first time. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:56 | |
I was slightly nervous, I think, really. I mean I... How... Will they like me? | 0:19:57 | 0:20:02 | |
Or who knows? | 0:20:02 | 0:20:05 | |
I believe we had about 20 members of the family come up and | 0:20:05 | 0:20:09 | |
their question was, without being rude, "Now, who are you? How are you related?" | 0:20:09 | 0:20:13 | |
And I got the family tree out | 0:20:13 | 0:20:14 | |
and there was a lot of missing gaps that I could fill in. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:18 | |
For Simon, it was the successful culmination of years of research, | 0:20:18 | 0:20:22 | |
the fruits of which he, now, committed to paper. | 0:20:22 | 0:20:25 | |
Although I had all this information, it was all online. I had documents. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:29 | |
I had things here and there | 0:20:29 | 0:20:30 | |
so I decided to put a small book together for them. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:33 | |
I wrote a profile on each member of the family. Everyone has a story. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:37 | |
Every relative has a story attached. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:40 | |
And I continuously work on this and I continuously update | 0:20:40 | 0:20:43 | |
this all the time so it's an ongoing project, basically. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:47 | |
I also believe it's a way of keeping their memory alive. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:49 | |
They might have passed away but it's important to keep | 0:20:49 | 0:20:52 | |
their memory to know who they were, what they were, | 0:20:52 | 0:20:55 | |
how you were related because it's part of you. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:59 | |
It's important. It's important to know these things. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:02 | |
So, it's all kind of, like, wow. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:04 | |
-But you've gained a whole, a complete, like, new family... -Yeah. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:07 | |
..that were always there in the background. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:10 | |
With all these stories to go with it that are just amazing. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:13 | |
-We've got Simon to thank for that, haven't we? -Yeah, definitely. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:16 | |
-I'm getting emotional, sorry. -Aw. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:18 | |
After making contact with relatives he never knew he had, | 0:21:23 | 0:21:27 | |
now, Simon is embarking on the next chapter of his ongoing | 0:21:27 | 0:21:31 | |
journey to find out more about the Groundsell family. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:34 | |
He's making the 4,000-mile trip from Israel to the | 0:21:36 | 0:21:39 | |
Isle of Wight along with his partner, Yuval. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:42 | |
Tomorrow, he'll be reunited with his new relations again | 0:21:43 | 0:21:47 | |
and hopes to fill in even more of the blanks in his family history. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:51 | |
I'm going home and it's always exciting to be with your family | 0:21:51 | 0:21:55 | |
and to come home. | 0:21:55 | 0:21:56 | |
I've got some new information for them and to share with them | 0:21:56 | 0:21:59 | |
and maybe they have some new information for me so it's quite | 0:21:59 | 0:22:02 | |
exciting to see what they have and, also, to share what I have. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:06 | |
But this morning, before the reunion, | 0:22:14 | 0:22:17 | |
Simon has one very important stop to make. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:20 | |
The graveyard where his grandfather, Bernard, is buried. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:24 | |
It's important to visit my grandfather's grave and to... | 0:22:25 | 0:22:28 | |
for me to keep his memory alive. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:30 | |
To help find exactly where his grandfather is buried, | 0:22:31 | 0:22:35 | |
Simon has turned to the internet for help again. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:38 | |
Online, there are records of every graveyard in the UK. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:43 | |
To find the right plot, Simon and Yuval have downloaded a map. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:46 | |
-According to this, it looks like four graves in if this is the path. -These are the trees. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:51 | |
So, it's on a bit and to the left. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:54 | |
But even with a map, | 0:22:55 | 0:22:56 | |
finding the right grave in an old graveyard is easier said than done. | 0:22:56 | 0:23:02 | |
I think it was more this way. | 0:23:02 | 0:23:03 | |
But while searching for his grandfather, | 0:23:06 | 0:23:08 | |
Simon stumbles on something unexpected. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:11 | |
By chance, I've just discovered my great grandfather's grave, | 0:23:12 | 0:23:16 | |
George Young Groundsell. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:18 | |
Died November the 28th, 1915. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:22 | |
Aged 74. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:24 | |
Well, that's really quite shocking, actually, in a pleasant | 0:23:24 | 0:23:28 | |
kind of way, to discover their grave by accident. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:32 | |
It's as if it's meant to be. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:33 | |
Just stumbling along here and there we are. | 0:23:33 | 0:23:36 | |
This must be the Groundsell row, I should imagine. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:38 | |
And here we are, we're standing right next to it. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:44 | |
-Would you believe it? -This is the grave. -This is the grave. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:47 | |
Think all these years have passed. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:03 | |
Since 1949. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:05 | |
But it's important to visit the grave and to remember. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:12 | |
After finding the graves of his grandfather | 0:24:24 | 0:24:27 | |
and even his great-grandfather, Simon's heading to meet | 0:24:27 | 0:24:30 | |
some of the surviving generations of the Groundsell family. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:34 | |
CHATTERING | 0:24:34 | 0:24:36 | |
Hello. Oh, so many people here. Hello. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:41 | |
Come in for a hug. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:42 | |
-You look lovely. How are you, Jane, how are you? -Lovely to see you. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:47 | |
-Hello, Simon. -Hello, how are you? | 0:24:47 | 0:24:49 | |
Thanks to Simon's work, everyone here has now been reconnected | 0:24:49 | 0:24:54 | |
with family members they never knew they had. | 0:24:54 | 0:24:57 | |
Now Simon can share the latest edition of his family history book. | 0:24:57 | 0:25:01 | |
And also his latest discovery, made just a few hours ago. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:06 | |
It took us a while to find the grave. | 0:25:06 | 0:25:08 | |
We were, sort of, hunting and asked, "It all looks the same?" | 0:25:08 | 0:25:12 | |
And then, while we were looking, we came across our, | 0:25:12 | 0:25:15 | |
-let me get this right, great-great-grandparent's grave. -Oh, wow. -What? No. | 0:25:15 | 0:25:18 | |
-By chance. Of George Young Groundsell and his wife, Sarah. -No way. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:22 | |
So that was interesting, yeah. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:25 | |
And cousin Jane has been carrying out some research of her own. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:29 | |
I brought this along for you to see, Simon, | 0:25:29 | 0:25:31 | |
because I know that some of the pictures you wanted... I've been up in the attic. | 0:25:31 | 0:25:34 | |
-Have you? -Looking at... -What did you discover in your attic? | 0:25:34 | 0:25:40 | |
-That's an early picture of my father there... -And who's this little cute one? | 0:25:40 | 0:25:44 | |
-Ah, I was about three months old, I reckon. -Ah. | 0:25:44 | 0:25:47 | |
All of this new information will be added to | 0:25:48 | 0:25:51 | |
Simon's ever-expanding archive | 0:25:51 | 0:25:53 | |
and the next edition of the Groundsell family history. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:56 | |
I've got some new information for you... | 0:25:57 | 0:26:00 | |
..regarding the Groundsell family house. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:04 | |
So, this is the house in its day, in the early 1900s. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:07 | |
-I think in its day it was quite a grand residence... -Mmm. -..by the looks of things. It was... | 0:26:07 | 0:26:11 | |
-I think they had servants. -Mmm. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:13 | |
And this is the house, today, as it stands, so little has changed much. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:18 | |
We could have passed each other in the street umpteen times. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:23 | |
We live ten minutes away from each other | 0:26:23 | 0:26:25 | |
and because of Simon, we've got to know each other. | 0:26:25 | 0:26:29 | |
On behalf of us all, I'd like to say a huge thank you, | 0:26:29 | 0:26:31 | |
Simon, for bringing us all together and for organising all of this. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:34 | |
So, I'd like you all to raise your glasses, please. To Simon. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:37 | |
-Thank you. -And to the Groundsells. Cheers everybody. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:41 | |
Cheers. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:42 | |
Simon's mission to uncover his family history continues. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:46 | |
But today marks the successful conclusion to the chapter | 0:26:46 | 0:26:50 | |
that began his story 20 years ago. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:53 | |
I felt I've reconnected to my grandfather and part of | 0:26:54 | 0:26:58 | |
researching the family tree is to keep the memory of your relatives alive | 0:26:58 | 0:27:04 | |
and to realise, this is your heritage. It's very important. | 0:27:04 | 0:27:07 | |
It's like the end results of my research | 0:27:07 | 0:27:09 | |
so it's been a really fun day. | 0:27:09 | 0:27:10 | |
Lynn Lewis had been hoping for her own happy family reunion. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:26 | |
Through an adoption agency, | 0:27:26 | 0:27:28 | |
she thought she had found the older brother, David, | 0:27:28 | 0:27:31 | |
who her mother had given up for adoption 60 years earlier. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:35 | |
Now, all Lynn could do was wait and see if the man the agency believed | 0:27:35 | 0:27:39 | |
was her brother, would respond to her letter. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:42 | |
This letter appeared and a few photographs from Lynn | 0:27:43 | 0:27:47 | |
of her family and brothers and sisters. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:51 | |
And it took me quite a while to read this letter cos it was very emotional | 0:27:51 | 0:27:55 | |
and every time I read it, now, it still brings tears | 0:27:55 | 0:27:59 | |
to me eyes to think about, you know, | 0:27:59 | 0:28:01 | |
what it meant to Lynn to write this and for both of us anyway. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:06 | |
So, I treasure this. I keep this. I treasure this. And I always will do. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:11 | |
"Hello David, it's hard for me to describe how it feels to | 0:28:12 | 0:28:18 | |
"actually be sitting down writing this letter to you. | 0:28:18 | 0:28:21 | |
"Knowing that you are going to read it. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:25 | |
"You can't imagine how many times I have gone over what I would say. | 0:28:27 | 0:28:32 | |
"If this time ever came." | 0:28:33 | 0:28:35 | |
I can't. I can't read it. | 0:28:39 | 0:28:40 | |
Oh. | 0:28:42 | 0:28:43 | |
"I totally understand that you need to take things very slowly, | 0:28:47 | 0:28:51 | |
"as do us all. | 0:28:51 | 0:28:52 | |
"I have tried many times to look for you." | 0:28:53 | 0:28:55 | |
"When I received the phone call with the wonderful news that you | 0:28:57 | 0:29:01 | |
"had been found, | 0:29:01 | 0:29:03 | |
"I went through a rollercoaster of emotions, as I expect, did you. | 0:29:03 | 0:29:09 | |
"I have spent more than 20 years not knowing | 0:29:10 | 0:29:14 | |
"whether this time would ever come. | 0:29:14 | 0:29:17 | |
"But hoping very much it would. | 0:29:17 | 0:29:19 | |
"I'm so looking forward to receiving a letter back from you. | 0:29:22 | 0:29:26 | |
"In your own time. | 0:29:26 | 0:29:27 | |
BOTH: "Until then, may I wish yourself and your family well. | 0:29:27 | 0:29:32 | |
"Love, Lynn." | 0:29:32 | 0:29:33 | |
After reading that letter, I just wanted to get in touch | 0:29:36 | 0:29:38 | |
with her as quick as possible, really, then. | 0:29:38 | 0:29:41 | |
If we're going to meet, why drag it on any longer? | 0:29:41 | 0:29:44 | |
We've waited all these years. | 0:29:44 | 0:29:45 | |
Lynn had found her long-lost brother, David. | 0:29:47 | 0:29:50 | |
Now, the adoption agency could put the two in touch directly. | 0:29:51 | 0:29:54 | |
They said, "We found your brother." And they said to me, | 0:29:56 | 0:29:59 | |
"We have a phone number for you. | 0:29:59 | 0:30:02 | |
"He wants you to get in touch with him." | 0:30:02 | 0:30:04 | |
And I was, "Oh, my goodness, no. It can't be happening." | 0:30:04 | 0:30:08 | |
I was so excited. | 0:30:08 | 0:30:10 | |
I was bursting so I went upstairs into my bedroom | 0:30:10 | 0:30:13 | |
and a million things went through my head, | 0:30:13 | 0:30:16 | |
what I thought I would say to him, and I practised it and practised | 0:30:16 | 0:30:20 | |
it and practised it and, then, I rang the number | 0:30:20 | 0:30:22 | |
and just before I put the last digit in, | 0:30:22 | 0:30:24 | |
I put the phone down and if I did that once, | 0:30:24 | 0:30:27 | |
I must've done it 20 times before I finally dialled the number | 0:30:27 | 0:30:31 | |
and the phone rang and my stomach was turning | 0:30:31 | 0:30:34 | |
and I was close to tears and this voice answered the phone. | 0:30:34 | 0:30:40 | |
I said, "Is that Dave? It's Lynn." | 0:30:40 | 0:30:42 | |
And he said, "Hello, Duck." | 0:30:42 | 0:30:43 | |
Erm, cos he's a proper country bumpkin | 0:30:43 | 0:30:46 | |
and I just said, "You wouldn't believe how long I've been trying to find you." | 0:30:46 | 0:30:52 | |
Erm, and we just went on from there and we talked and we talk... | 0:30:52 | 0:30:55 | |
And we must've been on the phone for two hours. | 0:30:55 | 0:30:58 | |
We just seemed to click and we just hit it off. | 0:30:58 | 0:31:01 | |
From within seconds, | 0:31:01 | 0:31:02 | |
we were laughing at each other's little jokes and things and... | 0:31:02 | 0:31:07 | |
You'd have thought we'd have known each other all our lives and, yet, | 0:31:07 | 0:31:10 | |
it was the first time we'd ever spoken. | 0:31:10 | 0:31:11 | |
After his mother, Maureen, had to give him up, Dave grew up | 0:31:13 | 0:31:17 | |
with his adoptive parents on a farm in the Peak District. | 0:31:17 | 0:31:20 | |
I loved it. I loved being out in the country. | 0:31:21 | 0:31:23 | |
We was out all day, everyday, when we were kids. | 0:31:23 | 0:31:26 | |
I found out I was adopted at the age of around seven. | 0:31:27 | 0:31:31 | |
When I think me mum thought we'd possibly understand what | 0:31:31 | 0:31:34 | |
she was telling us and what it was and we've always known | 0:31:34 | 0:31:38 | |
and I've known as much as she knew. | 0:31:38 | 0:31:40 | |
Erm, and, I mean, I did ask many years ago if we wanted to find out | 0:31:41 | 0:31:46 | |
any more but, you know, you're a small child, then, and Mum and Dad was | 0:31:46 | 0:31:50 | |
Mum and Dad and you never thought no more about it as a small child. | 0:31:50 | 0:31:54 | |
And it was left like that and before I knew any more, I had a letter | 0:31:54 | 0:31:59 | |
and a phone call and Lynn had been looking for me, me sister. | 0:31:59 | 0:32:03 | |
As Dave learned more about his birth family, | 0:32:05 | 0:32:07 | |
there were several surprising revelations. | 0:32:07 | 0:32:10 | |
Not least, that his birth parents had stayed together after | 0:32:10 | 0:32:13 | |
he was born and that Dave grew up just a few miles | 0:32:13 | 0:32:17 | |
away from where they lived in Buxton. | 0:32:17 | 0:32:20 | |
It was | 0:32:20 | 0:32:21 | |
a shock to even find out that they had, actually, gone on to get married... | 0:32:21 | 0:32:24 | |
..a few years later and have a family of their own | 0:32:25 | 0:32:29 | |
which then became my full-blown brothers and sisters. | 0:32:29 | 0:32:32 | |
When I found bits about me birth father then, | 0:32:33 | 0:32:36 | |
obviously, I found his name was Alan and so on and... | 0:32:36 | 0:32:41 | |
That was a shock to know that they got married | 0:32:41 | 0:32:43 | |
and lived together, happily ever after, and raised a big family | 0:32:43 | 0:32:49 | |
and I'd only been, literally, teens of miles away from them. | 0:32:49 | 0:32:53 | |
All those lives I'd never known but, | 0:32:53 | 0:32:55 | |
sadly, I never got to meet Alan. | 0:32:55 | 0:32:58 | |
He died before I got the chance to meet him. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:01 | |
Although it was too late to be reunited with Alan, Dave wasted no | 0:33:01 | 0:33:05 | |
time in getting together with Lynn and the rest of his birth family. | 0:33:05 | 0:33:10 | |
Including his mother, Maureen. | 0:33:10 | 0:33:12 | |
It was about a week, something like...about a week before we met, something like that. | 0:33:12 | 0:33:17 | |
That week seemed to drag and, then, it went quick and, then, it dragged | 0:33:17 | 0:33:20 | |
and, then, the emotions and, then, sleepless nights thinking and... | 0:33:20 | 0:33:26 | |
All sorts of things was going off. | 0:33:26 | 0:33:28 | |
Things that you never even think of, you know. | 0:33:28 | 0:33:31 | |
All sorts of things was flying through your mind. | 0:33:31 | 0:33:34 | |
It was the 1st of February, 2006 | 0:33:34 | 0:33:39 | |
that, at 7pm, we'd arranged to meet | 0:33:39 | 0:33:43 | |
in the Red Lion pub so I went along with my mum and my sister, Paula, | 0:33:43 | 0:33:50 | |
and we got there before they did. | 0:33:50 | 0:33:52 | |
We got there early so we wouldn't be late | 0:33:52 | 0:33:54 | |
and we sat down with a drink and we watched through the window | 0:33:54 | 0:33:58 | |
and, then, all of a sudden, this 4x4 pulls up | 0:33:58 | 0:34:01 | |
in the car park and out pops this strapping bloke. | 0:34:01 | 0:34:06 | |
Erm, round to the other side of the car, opens the door and this little | 0:34:06 | 0:34:10 | |
old lady gets out so I said to me mum and Paula, "This must be them." | 0:34:10 | 0:34:15 | |
Lynn and Paula had seen me come in. | 0:34:15 | 0:34:17 | |
Unbeknown to me and as we walked through the door, they grabbed me. Ha. | 0:34:19 | 0:34:23 | |
They bounced on top of me, erm... | 0:34:23 | 0:34:24 | |
So that was very emotional. | 0:34:26 | 0:34:28 | |
We just hugged and cried and looked at each other and didn't want | 0:34:28 | 0:34:32 | |
to let each other go and it was just amazing that my mum and my sister | 0:34:32 | 0:34:36 | |
got up and came over and we all hugged and cried and, then, his mum | 0:34:36 | 0:34:42 | |
and my mum started talking. | 0:34:42 | 0:34:44 | |
And me mum walked round the back and Maureen was sat there very, | 0:34:44 | 0:34:48 | |
very frightened, nervous like the rest. Like we all was really. | 0:34:48 | 0:34:52 | |
She walked straight up to her. Put her arm around her. | 0:34:52 | 0:34:56 | |
Said, "It's been a long time. But he's here now." | 0:34:56 | 0:34:58 | |
Maureen died a few years after they were reunited | 0:35:00 | 0:35:03 | |
but Dave still wants to learn more about his birth family | 0:35:03 | 0:35:06 | |
and, especially, his father, Alan. | 0:35:06 | 0:35:09 | |
Today, Lynn has arranged for Dave to meet their aunt, | 0:35:10 | 0:35:13 | |
Alan's sister, Beryl. | 0:35:13 | 0:35:14 | |
-Hi. Hello. -Lynn, good to see you. | 0:35:16 | 0:35:18 | |
-How you been? -Hiya, you all right, love? -Yeah, what have you been up to? | 0:35:20 | 0:35:23 | |
Gosh, I don't know what's going to happen today, really. | 0:35:23 | 0:35:26 | |
-Oh, it's going to be a well exciting day. -I know. -I can't wait to see Auntie Beryl. -I know. I know. | 0:35:26 | 0:35:30 | |
Today will be Dave's first real chance to find out | 0:35:30 | 0:35:33 | |
more about Alan's side of the family. | 0:35:33 | 0:35:36 | |
-Me dad confided in Auntie Beryl... -Right. | 0:35:36 | 0:35:38 | |
..when he was 15 so she's known about you and the circumstances | 0:35:38 | 0:35:43 | |
while you were adopted, right from the very beginning, I think. | 0:35:43 | 0:35:46 | |
Meeting Beryl's going to be... | 0:35:48 | 0:35:51 | |
Probably a bit emotional, that'll be... | 0:35:51 | 0:35:54 | |
Knowing that she was part of me dad, as you might say. | 0:35:55 | 0:35:59 | |
And I'm hoping that she'll know different things that happened | 0:35:59 | 0:36:02 | |
because, obviously, they talked to each other, brother and sister. | 0:36:02 | 0:36:06 | |
At that time, they were only kids, I suppose, themselves, weren't they? So... | 0:36:06 | 0:36:09 | |
Erm... | 0:36:09 | 0:36:11 | |
She might be able to fill in a few gaps that... | 0:36:11 | 0:36:14 | |
I don't know, I mean, I know quite a bit about Mum's side | 0:36:14 | 0:36:17 | |
but I don't know a lot about Dad's side so... | 0:36:17 | 0:36:20 | |
Every little bit helps. | 0:36:20 | 0:36:22 | |
This is going to be a really good day. | 0:36:22 | 0:36:26 | |
A really good day. | 0:36:26 | 0:36:28 | |
Alan would have been overjoyed at this meeting. | 0:36:28 | 0:36:31 | |
Oh, it would have been a joy for him. A real joy for him. | 0:36:31 | 0:36:35 | |
We'll find out a bit more about each other. | 0:36:36 | 0:36:39 | |
And catch up about the family. | 0:36:39 | 0:36:41 | |
Just get hold of him and hug him. | 0:36:41 | 0:36:44 | |
Cos you didn't...we didn't have the opportunity to hug, really. | 0:36:44 | 0:36:48 | |
You know, it's so lovely. Give him a kiss and a hug. | 0:36:48 | 0:36:51 | |
-Hello. -Hello. -Come on, darling. -Aw. | 0:36:53 | 0:36:58 | |
-Come on, David. -Hello, Auntie Beryl. | 0:37:04 | 0:37:07 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:37:07 | 0:37:08 | |
-Oh, dear, dear, dear. -Oh, we'll have a nice little chat now, won't we? -Oh, yeah, I hope so. | 0:37:08 | 0:37:13 | |
-Oh. -Come on, sit down. Sit down with me. -How special this is going to be. -How special is it? | 0:37:15 | 0:37:19 | |
A very special day for me. | 0:37:19 | 0:37:21 | |
-I can't find it! -Ha-ha. -Now, don't he look like me mum and our Alan? | 0:37:22 | 0:37:27 | |
Yes. Yes. | 0:37:27 | 0:37:28 | |
He's more like your mum than our Alan. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:31 | |
Dave's keen to find out exactly what happened to his mum | 0:37:32 | 0:37:35 | |
and dad after he was born, from someone who was there at the time. | 0:37:35 | 0:37:40 | |
-So, can you remember what actually happened after...? -Not really. | 0:37:40 | 0:37:45 | |
No, it was more or less taboo, you know, I mean... | 0:37:45 | 0:37:47 | |
-Did Dad get into trouble...can you...at the time? -Yes, he did. | 0:37:47 | 0:37:51 | |
Because they actually met again when they probably shouldn't have done | 0:37:51 | 0:37:54 | |
-and, well... -Well, I don't thi... -..as you know, they got married. -..I don't think they ever stopped. | 0:37:54 | 0:37:58 | |
-So did Dad get told he had to keep away from her or... -Yes. -..was there things...? | 0:37:58 | 0:38:03 | |
-In fact, there was a really big do... -Right. -..you know. He got really... | 0:38:03 | 0:38:07 | |
-Into trouble. -Yeah. -He did. Yeah. | 0:38:07 | 0:38:09 | |
Mum said that Dad actually got to see Dave... | 0:38:09 | 0:38:13 | |
..when she... Before she gave him away. | 0:38:14 | 0:38:17 | |
-Oh, I didn't know that. -Well, I didn't. Right. -She snuck... | 0:38:17 | 0:38:19 | |
She snuck out. | 0:38:19 | 0:38:20 | |
She was allowed to take him on short walks | 0:38:20 | 0:38:24 | |
and how they managed to keep in touch with each other through | 0:38:24 | 0:38:26 | |
the pregnancy when she was there, I don't know, but they must have done | 0:38:26 | 0:38:29 | |
because Mum said Dad, actually, got to see him just the once. | 0:38:29 | 0:38:34 | |
They met up when they shouldn't have done | 0:38:34 | 0:38:36 | |
and she took him for a walk in the pram just before he was given up | 0:38:36 | 0:38:39 | |
for adoption. | 0:38:39 | 0:38:40 | |
See, Mum told me that | 0:38:40 | 0:38:42 | |
when they wasn't supposed to be seeing each other | 0:38:42 | 0:38:44 | |
-and meeting at all... -They were. They were on the sly. -..they would go to the pictures | 0:38:44 | 0:38:49 | |
and Maureen would sit in one row and Dad would sit in another row | 0:38:49 | 0:38:54 | |
and they'd hold hands in the dark over the top. | 0:38:54 | 0:38:57 | |
I didn't know that. She never told me that. | 0:38:57 | 0:38:59 | |
-There were just little, crafty meets that they had... -Ah. -..and I just wondered... -Yeah. Yeah. | 0:38:59 | 0:39:03 | |
-..if Auntie Beryl knew about things like this, you see. -I know they... | 0:39:03 | 0:39:06 | |
Now, they did... I know they did meet up because I mean they were... | 0:39:06 | 0:39:09 | |
-They weren't kept apart. No. -No. No matter how much they tried, it wasn't working. | 0:39:09 | 0:39:14 | |
-No. No matter how much the family tried. -Yeah, it's good. That's good. | 0:39:14 | 0:39:17 | |
-No. They did meet up. -Was everybody happy, then, when they got married? | 0:39:17 | 0:39:22 | |
-Did... -He did, sort of, give up by that time. -Yeah. -Yeah. Yeah. -Yeah, families had got over it and... | 0:39:22 | 0:39:27 | |
-Well, it has to be. It has to be. -Yeah, yeah, yeah. | 0:39:27 | 0:39:30 | |
They were a unit. There was no other word for it. | 0:39:32 | 0:39:35 | |
They were meant for one another, you know. | 0:39:35 | 0:39:39 | |
They did everything they could to be together. | 0:39:39 | 0:39:42 | |
It was a one, true love. | 0:39:42 | 0:39:44 | |
Like Heathcliff and... All over again. | 0:39:47 | 0:39:51 | |
Let's have a look at the photographs, then, Auntie Beryl, that you've brought. You start. | 0:39:52 | 0:39:56 | |
This is your dad. That was taken at Rhyl. | 0:39:56 | 0:39:59 | |
-I remember that. -Wow. -Wait till you see what I've got of my lads. | 0:39:59 | 0:40:03 | |
We all look the same and me when I was small, believe it or not. | 0:40:03 | 0:40:07 | |
-There's your mum and dad at the wedding. -That one there, you mean? -Yeah, yeah. | 0:40:08 | 0:40:11 | |
-You can have that because... -Can I? -..because I've got a couple of them. Yes. -Lovely, thank you. -Yeah. | 0:40:11 | 0:40:16 | |
Look at Dad's hairstyle, there. The Teddy Boy style. | 0:40:16 | 0:40:18 | |
-Hey, hey, I've got that cut as well. I have as a baby. -Have you? | 0:40:18 | 0:40:21 | |
This is me with one of them hairdos. | 0:40:21 | 0:40:24 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:40:24 | 0:40:26 | |
Let's look at your photographs, Dave. | 0:40:26 | 0:40:29 | |
-Oh, my God. -Oh, my goodness. Look at that. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:36 | |
Wow. | 0:40:36 | 0:40:38 | |
-Looks so much like we did when we were babies. -Mmm. | 0:40:38 | 0:40:42 | |
-Oh, if only Mum and Dad had've seen these. -Mmm. | 0:40:42 | 0:40:45 | |
-Me mum seems to think that was me on me way home to the farm... -When you were a... -..the first day. Yes. | 0:40:46 | 0:40:53 | |
And the clothes I'm wearing there, | 0:40:53 | 0:40:56 | |
believe it or not, are in here. | 0:40:56 | 0:40:58 | |
The day that we met, the very, very first time, | 0:40:59 | 0:41:01 | |
we all sat there talking away and getting on really well | 0:41:01 | 0:41:06 | |
and me mum went down to her bag and come out with this. | 0:41:06 | 0:41:09 | |
And I'd never seen it. | 0:41:09 | 0:41:12 | |
And she said to Maureen, "You recognise these?" | 0:41:12 | 0:41:15 | |
Oh, my God. | 0:41:15 | 0:41:16 | |
And Maureen said, "Yes," she said, "Because I embroided them." | 0:41:16 | 0:41:20 | |
And she couldn't believe me mum had still got them. | 0:41:20 | 0:41:22 | |
-And that's what I came... -So that's... -..That's what I came home in the first day. | 0:41:22 | 0:41:25 | |
-..That's what you came home in. -Oh, my God. | 0:41:25 | 0:41:27 | |
Mum said, "How is it you've still got it?" | 0:41:27 | 0:41:29 | |
-And she said, "Cos I... I just wondered and thought maybe one day I could show you back again." -Mmm. | 0:41:29 | 0:41:35 | |
Wow. | 0:41:35 | 0:41:36 | |
It really is amazing. | 0:41:36 | 0:41:39 | |
That is beautiful. | 0:41:39 | 0:41:41 | |
I can't believe she kept it. | 0:41:41 | 0:41:42 | |
I can't believe, after 30 odd years or whatever it is, | 0:41:45 | 0:41:49 | |
that we'd be sat round a table sharing memories | 0:41:49 | 0:41:53 | |
and photographs, the three of us together. | 0:41:53 | 0:41:56 | |
-It really does mean the world to me. -It does to me, as well, because you are part of Alan, you see. | 0:41:56 | 0:42:01 | |
Absolutely. | 0:42:01 | 0:42:02 | |
-So you got a little bit of him back again for a while now... -I have. -..haven't you? | 0:42:02 | 0:42:06 | |
Dave hasn't just been reunited with a sister and an aunt... | 0:42:06 | 0:42:09 | |
Let's have a group hug. | 0:42:09 | 0:42:12 | |
..he's now part of a large, extended family that | 0:42:12 | 0:42:15 | |
until a few years ago, he didn't know existed. | 0:42:15 | 0:42:19 | |
-Who is all these presents for? -Are they yours, Elizabeth? -Me. -Wow. -Birthday girl. | 0:42:19 | 0:42:22 | |
Dave seems a lovely man. Very pleased to have met him. | 0:42:24 | 0:42:29 | |
And to think he's part of me family so that's rather nice. | 0:42:29 | 0:42:32 | |
It's been a very good weekend. | 0:42:34 | 0:42:36 | |
I didn't expect half of what was going to happen and it's happened | 0:42:36 | 0:42:39 | |
and it's been good and, obviously, I've met more family so that's... | 0:42:39 | 0:42:45 | |
It's been a good ending to the story. And a new beginning. | 0:42:45 | 0:42:49 | |
ALL: Woo. | 0:42:49 | 0:42:52 | |
What a day. It's been absolutely fantastic. | 0:42:52 | 0:42:55 | |
I can't believe that it's took all these years... | 0:42:55 | 0:42:57 | |
FIREWORKS CRACKLING ALL: Woo. | 0:42:57 | 0:42:59 | |
..but, yeah, amazing. | 0:42:59 | 0:43:01 | |
Absolutely amazing. | 0:43:01 | 0:43:03 | |
I've loved every minute of it. | 0:43:03 | 0:43:04 |