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Moving your family is always stressful,

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but when it involves taking them to the other side of the world,

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it could push everyone to their limits.

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In 2012, the Orrett family faced a massive decision -

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whether to stay in the UK

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or start a new life in Australia.

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Four years on, we've caught up with them

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to find out where they now call home.

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Gill and Stuart Orrett were desperate to move closer

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to their eldest daughter Christine

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and get to know their first granddaughter,

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who was growing up thousands of miles away.

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How she changes every day is something that can only...

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you know, make you beam inside with happiness and pleasure,

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more than anything else.

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But moving to Australia meant facing some heartbreaking decisions.

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We knew we'd have to make this choice between

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being there for our parents and being here for our kids

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and our grandchildren.

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-Yeah.

-It's a tough one.

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So, four years on, have the family being reunited,

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or do they remain on separate sides of the world?

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It's been a win-win situation.

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I'm still 100% sure we've done the right thing.

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Australia is the most popular destination

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for Brits emigrating abroad.

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They're tempted by the promise of a better life down under.

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But the reality of leaving behind everything and everyone

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can sometimes turn that dream into a nightmare.

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In 2012, the Orrett family set off on a journey

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they hoped would change their lives for ever.

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They'd just one week to decide whether to leave behind

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friends and loved ones

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so they could be closer to their baby granddaughter.

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Today, we're going back to find out the final outcome for the Orretts.

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Back then, the family were living in Chester.

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Stuart worked in catering, while wife Gill was a paramedic.

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Of their four children, the two youngest, Matt, then 14,

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and Lauren, 17, were still living at home.

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They were enjoying life, but at a cost.

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For the past 20 years,

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Stuart had been working incredibly long hours

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to build up his catering business.

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I mean, I might do a 60-, 70-hour week,

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but that feels part-time to me.

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When you've done probably 100 plus hours a week,

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going down to 60 or 70, it's like being let off early.

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You feel guilty coming home!

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Providing for his family had meant missing out

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on seeing some of his children grow up.

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It has taken its toll.

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I feel as though, with the two older children,

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I didn't spend as much time with them as I do with the younger ones,

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because we were developing the businesses when they were young.

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Stuart and Gill have two other daughters -

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Samantha, who's spent a lot of time working on cruise ships,

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was happy to emigrate,

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and eldest daughter Christine was already living in Australia.

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With Christine expecting her first baby,

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the couple were desperate to move down under

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and bring their family together.

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Christine's emigrated out there in January

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and married to a chap who lives in Perth

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and having a baby and it's going to be our first grandchild.

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And we just feel this is a big transition in our lives.

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We don't want to be just visiting them for two or three months

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and have to come back here.

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Moving wasn't going to be easy, though.

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As a qualified paramedic,

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Gill was the only family member eligible for a visa,

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and that meant finding work in Australia.

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You know, I will feel quite disappointed

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if I let them down by not getting a job.

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But the clock was ticking.

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With the age limit for a skilled migration visa set at 50,

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Gill was running out of time.

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-The years just sort of ticked by, didn't they?

-They did.

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And then we suddenly realised,

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"We keep talking about it, we're going to have to do it."

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However, the ideal life in Australia meant facing potential heartache,

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for the Orretts and those they loved.

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Talking about Stuart's parents, they're not going to be able to

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travel over to Australia - we know that,

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they won't make that journey.

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The people I would miss the most are, obviously, my parents.

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That would be the hardest thing of all.

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Everything was resting on their week in Australia.

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Could they find the life they were dreaming of,

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or would it be too difficult to leave family and friends behind?

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Thanks to its warm Mediterranean climate

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and plenty of job opportunities,

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Perth looked like the perfect place for the Orretts to explore.

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And with their daughter Christine and her new family already there,

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Stuart and Gill were desperate to see

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if they could make a go of it in the city as well.

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All the Orretts, including older sister Samantha,

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made the 10,000-mile, 24-hour trip to Perth,

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and their first priority when they landed

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was to meet the new arrival.

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This is what a potential move was all about -

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a chance to bring their family together again.

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So cute!

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It really opens your eyes, you know,

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to see your eldest with a baby of her own and a new family starting.

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We're going to be considering our grandchildren

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as well as our own children.

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It's been tremendous, just watching expressions change

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as her face starts to open up a little bit.

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Everyone was smitten with the new baby,

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but the Orretts had only seven days

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to see if they could make a life there.

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Hopefully we'll be here to spoil her

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and watch her grow up but...

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..only time will tell.

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Beautiful girl, aren't you, yeah?

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The Orretts stayed near Christine, in the Rockingham area of Perth.

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Their accommodation for the week would give them

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a good idea of Australian-style living.

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-Oh, this is nice.

-The decking is nice, isn't it?

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-It's good.

-I like it open-plan.

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The layout went down well.

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How do you turn on the TV?

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You get the remote.

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-You can watch it when you're cleaning all the dishes!

-Ha, no.

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Nice try, Stuart!

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Overall, the reactions were positive.

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-For rented accommodation, yeah, I like it. Do you?

-Yeah, it's OK.

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It's practical for what we need at the moment. It's a good base.

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The area's right for us to have a look,

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and everything seems...simplistic,

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which is ideal for what we need.

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Back in the UK, the Orretts lived in a four-bedroom house in Chester.

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Their budget for a property in Australia

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was between £350,000 and £500,000.

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An Australian home would have to give them

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everything they needed straightaway.

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I think what I'm looking for in an Australian house is,

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I would like a pool.

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-Snooker table.

-I like the open-plan living.

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-Easy to maintain.

-Some outside space to entertain.

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A hot tub, or something.

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-Modern.

-Modern.

-A nice balcony.

-Games room.

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We would very much like to be able to just move in,

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put our furniture there

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and go out and enjoy the Australian lifestyle.

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The family had strong ideas about what they wanted

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from a house in Perth,

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but couldn't be sure their budget would be enough

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to buy them their dream home.

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Australian house prices had risen

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while exchange rates and property prices had dropped in the UK.

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We gave the Orretts a taste of the housing market in Perth.

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We lined up three properties based on their price range

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and what they wanted from their ideal home.

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Only after seeing each one did they find out how much it cost.

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The first house was in the Secret Harbour area,

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an hour from Perth city centre and, in an established neighbourhood,

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there were plenty of facilities nearby for families.

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The four-bedroom house was typically Aussie in style.

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Oh, this is nice, isn't it?

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This must be the lounge.

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I think it's quite dark, though.

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The kitchen is nice.

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Oh, it's got cupboards! It's got walk-in cupboards.

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I love them.

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It was sounding positive,

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but would this be a house worth moving across the world for?

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It hasn't got the wow factor. It's got the sensibility factor.

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But not the wow factor.

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It's got within-our-grasp factor.

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It wasn't a great start for the family's dream,

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but there was one feature that would lift their spirits.

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This is my ideal outdoor space.

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It's lovely. It's not overlooked.

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This would probably be a very good stepping stone property

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to feel our way over here

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and find out our actual needs when we get here.

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Overall, the house wasn't wowing the Orretts,

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but perhaps the price would make it more appealing.

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OK, Sam, would you like to do the honours?

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Wow.

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-That's good.

-That's cheap.

-That's OK.

-Yeah.

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£358,000 was well within their £500,000 budget,

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but Lauren wasn't buying it.

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-You'd be comfortable in this house?

-No, I think it's too boring.

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I think there's no view.

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It's more for, like...old people.

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Lauren had set the bar high,

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but Australian properties weren't really exciting

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the rest of the family either.

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Hopefully the next one would prove more popular.

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Also in Secret Harbour,

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this four-bedroom house was big enough for the Orretts

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and had a style that wasn't typically Aussie on the outside...

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or on the inside.

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Oh, that surprised me.

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-I expected that to be a bit more

-open-plan. Yeah.

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There was just something about the look that wasn't working.

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-It's not a typical Australian home. I feel it's...

-Too English.

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Too British.

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And things went from bad to worse.

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I'm sorry, but this is horrendous.

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It's not what I'd expect to see.

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Maybe the unusual feature in the open-plan living room

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would add some appeal.

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I wouldn't imagine a kitchen, dining room, snooker table.

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then it be rather than a kitchen, dining room, lounge.

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Luckily, there was something not so typically British

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to bring the family round.

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-That's a nice pool.

-Oh, I love this pool.

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-That is awesome.

-This bar area is...

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-It's very usable.

-HE CHUCKLES

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The outside bit, I think it is so cool.

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I like it.

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While the house wasn't to everyone's taste,

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the outdoor space certainly tickled the family's fancy.

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But was it affordable on their £500,000 budget?

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The moment of truth.

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£467,000.

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750,000 Australian dollars.

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No, I think that's overpriced.

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No, that is well overpriced, in my estimation.

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It wasn't their idea of good value,

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but that could mean they were overestimating

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what they could achieve on their budget.

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It would all boil down to the last property.

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Staying in Secret Harbour,

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the third house was closer to the beach

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and surrounded by lots of open spaces.

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With plenty of room for the family,

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perhaps they could see themselves living in this five-bedroom house.

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That's nice, isn't it?

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Oh, that's nice.

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Oh, Matt, you want to see this.

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Oh, wow!

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Now, this is an entrance, isn't it?

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-This is a lot better.

-Oh, it's gorgeous, isn't it?

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Oh, my God...

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It looked like they could imagine living here.

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-Very nice.

-Oh, my God.

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This is fab, isn't it?

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Aw, it's dead good, isn't it?

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Stuart, get me a drink from the kitchen.

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This is stunning.

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-This is my ideal house.

-Look at the kitchen, it's massive.

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And it wasn't just the inside winning Gill over.

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I need this house.

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-Do you, darling?

-Yeah, I need this house.

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-You NEED.

-I do.

-What do you NEED about this house?

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Well, this is moving to Australia, isn't it? Look at it.

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The Orretts seemed to have finally arrived.

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I feel like I'm at home already.

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You've got your long drive, your gates, and your hammock, and...

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Yeah, and the jacuzzi, and the barbecue.

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I think it's gorgeous. I feel really comfortable here.

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This house got a great reaction all round,

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but there was still the small matter of the price.

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Ready? OK, no sharp intake of breath.

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The house cost nearly £600,000.

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That's not bad!

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Do you know what? That is actually less than what I thought it'd be.

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I thought it would be well over a million.

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That's not out of our reach completely.

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-Is it?

-Well...

-Nod, Stuart.

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-Say yes...

-It's just...

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It's certainly one to think about, isn't it?

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What do you think, kids? Like the house?

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Yes. If we moved here, I'd do all the cleaning.

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-What was that, Matthew?

-I'll do some cleaning.

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Nice try, Matthew,

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but affording this house would mean taking out a large mortgage,

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never mind the housework.

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So, what did the Orretts make of Perth houses?

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The first one was within budget

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and somewhere Gill and Stuart could call home - just.

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The second house was far too British in its styling

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and just didn't excite.

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But the third property was everything the Orretts had imagined,

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even if it would mean stretching their finances.

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-UK!

-Australia!

-Australia!

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-UK, Lauren?

-Yeah.

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Why have you said that?

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I think that, out of the three houses that we've seen,

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only one of them is, like, amazing,

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and the two others are like typical English houses.

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And we're moving from England to have a fresh start,

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so what's the point in going to another house

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which is exactly...well, pretty much similar

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to the one that we've got in England?

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So the most expensive house would, obviously, swing your judgment

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at the end of the day?

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-Yeah.

-Just a diva!

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In the UK, Stuart was running a busy catering company

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that he'd built up from scratch over 20 years.

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However, the recession meant the business had been suffering.

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It's been a very hard slog in comparison to what it was

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in, like, the glory years of maybe ten years ago.

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Stuart was hoping to sell his business

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and work for someone else in Australia.

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But it was Gill and her paramedic qualifications

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that held the key to emigrating.

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It's our ticket into Australia, me getting a job,

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so I do feel as if there's a certain responsibility on my shoulders

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at the moment for the family.

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I will feel quite disappointed if I let them down by not getting a job.

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We had arranged for Gill to meet Christian,

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an expat paramedic at the St John Emergency Centre in Perth.

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It looks smaller than what I'm used to working on.

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Absolutely. It's about half the size, I think, of a UK ambulance.

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While Gill got to grips with an Aussie ambulance,

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Stuart was beating Michael Davis, owner of a local catering firm.

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We have a team of staff that work over here, polish everything,

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straight back out onto the shelf, ready to go again.

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I have a couple of women who work for me who would die for this!

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Impressed, Stuart was keen to hear if a job would mean

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escaping the punishing hours he put in back home.

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The reason that we've focused so heavily on corporate catering,

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it's Monday to Friday, it's during the day.

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I'm home every night to have dinner with the kids.

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Regular hours were just what Stuart wanted,

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but what about the salary?

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We'd be looking at an average wage of about 60,000 per year.

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In my eyes, I'd be working part-time for a sensible wage,

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which is something I'd be interested in.

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Across town, Gill was getting down to

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the details of being a paramedic in Australia.

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As the main breadwinner,

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everything depended on her potential salary.

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Christian, could you tell me how much I could be expected to earn

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as a paramedic with three years' experience, in Western Australia?

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Well, a paramedic that has worked between one and three years

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would be on about 80,700 a year.

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Probably approximately double

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to what I'm earning at the moment in the UK.

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It was a great result for Gill.

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All in all, it had been a good day,

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and on meeting up, they were excited to share their news.

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So, what sort of hours would you be doing?

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You wouldn't be doing five o'clock starts

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and working till seven at night still, would you?

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No, it would be part-time - 40 hours a week!

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I just couldn't believe 40 hours a week is achievable,

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even for people who own the company.

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You know, it had to offer something pretty special

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to leave what I've got in the UK.

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But, yeah, the salary here is double what I'm earning in the UK.

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We're on a win-win situation by the sounds of it.

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So, when it came to voting for work, which way did they go?

0:17:510:17:54

-Australia!

-Australia!

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That was a surprise - not!

0:18:040:18:06

Gill and Stuart's work prospects in Australia were looking promising,

0:18:100:18:14

but they still faced the task

0:18:140:18:16

of taking a hard look at their finances.

0:18:160:18:19

To figure out if they'd be better or worse off,

0:18:190:18:21

we'd provided them with a breakdown of their expenses.

0:18:210:18:24

Oh, bacon's cheaper.

0:18:260:18:27

You'll be all right for your bacon butties in the morning.

0:18:270:18:30

I'll be spending £46.80 a week more.

0:18:300:18:33

The cost of a weekly food shop wasn't the best start.

0:18:330:18:37

Next came the bigger costs.

0:18:370:18:39

£1,144.67 increase by living in Australia per month.

0:18:390:18:46

It was a healthy boost in income,

0:18:460:18:48

but basing their figures on the cheapest house they saw,

0:18:480:18:52

would it allow them to take on a bigger mortgage?

0:18:520:18:55

So, it would be £74 a month worse off living in Australia.

0:18:550:18:59

That quite surprises me considering my income has...

0:18:590:19:02

increased an awful lot.

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£74 a month wasn't a huge amount, so on paper, it was looking like

0:19:050:19:10

the Orretts could afford Australia,

0:19:100:19:12

but only if they opted for the house they least liked.

0:19:120:19:15

Was that a sacrifice worth making?

0:19:150:19:18

-Undecided!

-Australia!

0:19:240:19:26

Why have you voted Australia?

0:19:270:19:29

We're not going to be much worse off,

0:19:290:19:31

but we are going to benefit from, obviously, seeing our grandchild,

0:19:310:19:35

the weather.

0:19:350:19:36

The whole lifestyle here will benefit us as a family.

0:19:360:19:39

Seeing their living costs in black and white

0:19:420:19:45

was a shock for Gill,

0:19:450:19:46

but a move down under was always about being together as a family.

0:19:460:19:50

With Stuart working long hours and Gill doing shifts in the UK,

0:19:510:19:55

spending time outdoors was rare, and limited by the British weather.

0:19:550:19:59

The Orretts visited Fremantle Harbour

0:20:010:20:03

to enjoy a spot of fishing.

0:20:030:20:05

It would offer a taste of what Australia could be about for them.

0:20:050:20:09

We're here at the moment, enjoying this wonderful lifestyle,

0:20:090:20:13

and I'm trying to put family and the UK to the back of my mind.

0:20:130:20:17

But Stuart couldn't escape thoughts of leaving his parents in the UK.

0:20:170:20:21

To take that safety blanket away is going to be a big, big

0:20:210:20:25

you know, wrench for me particularly.

0:20:250:20:28

So, would the Orretts be hooked by

0:20:300:20:32

the lifestyle they could enjoy down under?

0:20:320:20:34

-Australia!

-Undecided!

0:20:430:20:47

Oh, why?

0:20:470:20:48

-Because you didn't catch any fish!

-Sore loser!

0:20:480:20:53

Wahey!

0:20:530:20:56

Voting against the girls because he caught less fish?

0:20:560:20:59

That's what I call unsporting.

0:20:590:21:01

Emigrating would mean the Orretts saying goodbye

0:21:050:21:08

to loved ones in the UK.

0:21:080:21:10

The family had decided to watch messages

0:21:100:21:12

from friends and family together.

0:21:120:21:14

Would it make them rethink their move?

0:21:140:21:16

'Hi, Stuart, hi, Gill, hi, kids.'

0:21:160:21:18

Hope you're having a great time there.

0:21:180:21:21

-Hi, Stu.

-Hello, Stu.

0:21:210:21:22

'Hope you're enjoying yourself.'

0:21:220:21:24

Hello!

0:21:240:21:25

-Yay!

-'We miss you.'

0:21:250:21:27

Gill and Stuart, and the family,

0:21:270:21:29

they're very supportive of each other.

0:21:290:21:31

'And very caring towards each other.'

0:21:310:21:33

They're great fun to be with.

0:21:360:21:38

'They're committed 100% to whatever they're doing.'

0:21:380:21:41

Stuart is like his mother, he's soft.

0:21:410:21:45

That's true.

0:21:450:21:46

'He takes everybody's worries on himself, you know?'

0:21:460:21:50

'He's a good-hearted lad, very good-hearted.'

0:21:500:21:54

She's been my best friend since I was four and stuff,

0:21:540:21:57

and it's going to be a big

0:21:570:21:58

-'part of my life, like...

-Gone.

-Gone, yeah.'

0:21:580:22:01

-'We really felt...

-It wasn't going to be a holiday.

0:22:030:22:05

'..we'd better be prepared

0:22:050:22:07

'because we're going to be told

0:22:070:22:09

'they're going to want to go to Australia.'

0:22:090:22:13

To think they're all going so far away, it's pretty difficult.

0:22:150:22:20

'We'd really miss them, wouldn't we?

0:22:200:22:22

'Yeah, we would.'

0:22:220:22:23

It's only when they're packing and they go,

0:22:230:22:27

we'll sit down and we'll realise, they've gone.

0:22:270:22:30

And that's that initial link gone.

0:22:320:22:35

Come on.

0:22:370:22:39

The reality check of seeing friends and family...

0:22:430:22:47

is...so hard to take on board, really,

0:22:490:22:54

because you do tend to...

0:22:540:22:55

..think that they're always going to be there.

0:22:570:23:00

And as much as they're there, they're a long way away.

0:23:000:23:02

We knew we'd have to make this choice,

0:23:130:23:15

between being there for our parents and being here for our kids

0:23:150:23:18

and our grandchildren.

0:23:180:23:19

-Yeah.

-And it's a tough one.

0:23:200:23:22

A really tough one.

0:23:230:23:25

The week had shown the Orretts

0:23:270:23:28

the heartache of missing family back home

0:23:280:23:31

had to be weighed up against a huge positive.

0:23:310:23:34

Seeing Olivia, just a few days old, how she changes everyday,

0:23:340:23:38

it's something that can only, you know

0:23:380:23:41

make you beam inside with happiness and pleasure,

0:23:410:23:44

more than anything else.

0:23:440:23:46

The thought of not seeing that is very daunting

0:23:460:23:49

and not a thought I'd like to dwell on too much.

0:23:490:23:53

I still do worry, when we do get on that plane,

0:23:540:23:57

if that's the decision we're going to make, what are we leaving behind?

0:23:570:24:00

Will they be able to make this journey out here to see us?

0:24:000:24:03

Particularly Stuart's parents, who don't travel that well these days.

0:24:030:24:09

It hits home exactly how hard it is.

0:24:090:24:11

Being so close to them...

0:24:130:24:14

I don't know.

0:24:170:24:18

It's going to be a very hard decision to make.

0:24:180:24:22

There will always be the daily contact with them, no matter what.

0:24:220:24:25

It's just for the emergency times, it's going to be hard.

0:24:280:24:31

So...

0:24:320:24:33

It was time for the final vote.

0:24:350:24:38

Had everyone been convinced to move,

0:24:380:24:40

or would the Orretts remain divided across the globe?

0:24:400:24:43

We've had a fantastic week in Australia,

0:24:460:24:48

and based on our experiences, we've decided to live in...

0:24:480:24:51

-Australia!

-Australia!

0:25:060:25:08

You're undecided, Lauren?

0:25:100:25:12

Have you decided Australia?

0:25:120:25:14

-Why did you say that?

-Because I don't know. Still unsure.

0:25:140:25:18

I knew you'd be like that.

0:25:180:25:19

Like, now being here,

0:25:190:25:20

and now, like, seeing back all my friends and everything,

0:25:200:25:24

-I'm just unsure.

-That's all right.

0:25:240:25:26

How about you, Gill?

0:25:260:25:28

We've just got to give it a go, for the kids, for our grandchildren.

0:25:280:25:32

If we don't try it, we'll never know, will we?

0:25:320:25:35

I think Lauren could probably be convinced about the move.

0:25:350:25:38

I think it's just seeing your friends has reminded you about

0:25:380:25:41

what you have got in the UK.

0:25:410:25:43

-It does make you a bit sad, doesn't it?

-Yeah.

0:25:430:25:46

I'll just have to bring them all along, put them in a suitcase.

0:25:470:25:51

I think the decisions have obviously spoke volumes

0:25:510:25:54

for the family's thoughts overall,

0:25:540:25:57

weighing up all the pros and cons of what we have to do,

0:25:570:26:00

and...I think we've got to make the decision,

0:26:000:26:04

which we have done, and go for it!

0:26:040:26:07

-Yay!

-Yay!

0:26:080:26:10

When we caught up with the family in 2013,

0:26:140:26:17

they were still living in...

0:26:170:26:19

the UK.

0:26:190:26:21

But their week down under had convinced Stuart and Gill

0:26:210:26:23

Australia was where they wanted to be.

0:26:230:26:26

It felt as if you were home, really, the minute you arrived there.

0:26:260:26:29

Being introduced to the couple's first granddaughter, Olivia,

0:26:290:26:32

was an experience they'd never forget.

0:26:320:26:35

Meeting our granddaughter for the first time was absolutely perfect.

0:26:350:26:39

To have that time with her when she was just born

0:26:390:26:42

and seeing her just born, it was really great.

0:26:420:26:45

When they arrived back home, Gill and Stuart were desperate

0:26:450:26:48

to return to Australia as soon as they could.

0:26:480:26:51

We felt as if we really just wanted to pack and go back again,

0:26:510:26:53

I think, didn't we?

0:26:530:26:54

And it looked like that was going to happen quickly.

0:26:540:26:57

Paramedic Gill had a job interview

0:26:570:26:58

at the end of the family's stay in Perth

0:26:580:27:00

and had received great news on her return to the UK.

0:27:000:27:03

When we arrived home, one of the first things I did

0:27:040:27:08

was check my e-mails, and I was quite excited

0:27:080:27:10

because I'd passed the interview that I'd had while we were out there

0:27:100:27:14

and everything was set in order.

0:27:140:27:15

And they said the next stage will be to start the visa process.

0:27:150:27:18

I was pencilled in to actually start on the 3rd of February.

0:27:180:27:22

Daughter Lauren had proved a sticking point

0:27:220:27:25

after voting undecided in Australia,

0:27:250:27:27

but with her boyfriend recently having moved to America,

0:27:270:27:30

she was slowly coming round.

0:27:300:27:31

I do want to go out to Australia for a couple of months.

0:27:340:27:37

The first few weeks will feel like a holiday,

0:27:370:27:39

and then, like, settle in a bit more,

0:27:390:27:43

see what it would be like as, like, lifestyle out there.

0:27:430:27:46

Everyone was excited about the prospect of returning to Perth,

0:27:460:27:50

but a devastating message from Gill's future employer

0:27:500:27:53

brought everything to a grinding halt.

0:27:530:27:55

Just before Christmas, I received an e-mail,

0:27:580:28:01

a very apologetic e-mail,

0:28:010:28:04

that due to their workforce requirements,

0:28:040:28:06

they were unable to give me a start date,

0:28:060:28:08

but would be in touch in the future.

0:28:080:28:10

We were really flat.

0:28:100:28:13

We'd been looking forward to going for so long.

0:28:130:28:15

And there was more bad news to come.

0:28:150:28:18

My dad passed away at the beginning of the year.

0:28:180:28:21

If Gill's start date hadn't been postponed,

0:28:230:28:26

Stuart would have missed the chance to say goodbye to his dad.

0:28:260:28:29

When we looked at it, we would have been on the plane,

0:28:310:28:33

or had just arrived in Australia, to start our new life

0:28:330:28:37

when his father was in intensive care here.

0:28:370:28:40

So, ironic as it was, in a way, we were glad we were still here.

0:28:400:28:47

They'd come so close, but the loss of Stuart's father

0:28:470:28:50

and Gill's job offer being put on hold

0:28:500:28:52

blew their plans out of the water.

0:28:520:28:55

It felt as if we saw the new life within touching distance

0:28:560:29:00

and then had the rug pulled from under us.

0:29:000:29:03

With the future in mind

0:29:030:29:05

and the thought of missing granddaughter Olivia grow up,

0:29:050:29:08

the Orretts were still determined to make the move, though.

0:29:080:29:10

I mean, she's changing all the time.

0:29:120:29:14

You know, we've noticed, since we've come back from Australia

0:29:140:29:17

and speaking to her on the internet,

0:29:170:29:19

the way she's changed.

0:29:190:29:21

And to miss those early days

0:29:210:29:23

is something that we don't really want to miss.

0:29:230:29:26

But until Gill's offer of work came through,

0:29:280:29:30

the family had no choice but to stay put and play the waiting game.

0:29:300:29:34

We really do feel as if we're teetering on the edge of a cliff,

0:29:340:29:38

and we want to make that leap and we can't at the moment.

0:29:380:29:41

Matthew, like the rest of the family,

0:29:410:29:44

was waiting on that crucial call confirming Gill's job is back on.

0:29:440:29:48

It really is frustrating not knowing when you're going to Australia

0:29:480:29:50

cos I just want to get out there.

0:29:500:29:53

He comes in everyday from school,

0:29:530:29:54

"Have you heard, have you heard yet?"

0:29:540:29:56

I just keep saying, "Trust me, you'll know when I've heard,

0:29:560:29:59

"I'll be the one walking around with Billabong on my hat."

0:29:590:30:02

It was taking longer than they'd hoped,

0:30:020:30:04

but the Orretts were ready and willing to up sticks and move

0:30:040:30:08

to the other side of the world.

0:30:080:30:10

Should we get the call, we'll have a last-minute party and off we go.

0:30:100:30:15

Secretly, we'd like to be out there in the next three or four months,

0:30:150:30:18

but because we've had this disappointment,

0:30:180:30:21

we're not getting our hopes up.

0:30:210:30:23

But we're ready to go whenever they want us.

0:30:230:30:26

And they were confident the long wait would be worth it.

0:30:260:30:30

It's very exciting, to go out there and...

0:30:300:30:33

..hopefully live the life in the sunshine

0:30:350:30:37

and enjoy it to the full.

0:30:370:30:39

I think we'll be doing an awful lot of baby-sitting.

0:30:390:30:41

Will you?

0:30:410:30:42

Having survived heartbreak and disappointment,

0:30:470:30:51

Stuart and Gill were looking forward to finally getting the green light

0:30:510:30:55

to start their new life in Australia.

0:30:550:30:57

So, three years on, where are they now?

0:30:570:31:00

It's April 2016, and the Orretts are living in...

0:31:020:31:05

-..Western Australia!

-Yay!

-Yay!

0:31:070:31:11

Having finally made the move just under a year ago.

0:31:110:31:14

Home is a ground-floor apartment in the port city of Fremantle,

0:31:150:31:19

just 25 minutes south of Perth.

0:31:190:31:22

Getting here, however, hasn't been easy.

0:31:220:31:25

Australia tried to keep us out, but didn't achieve it.

0:31:250:31:27

You know...we have had lots of knockbacks.

0:31:270:31:30

But we've stuck together as a family, as the Orretts do.

0:31:300:31:34

The biggest hurdle was more bad news about Gill's offer.

0:31:350:31:39

I've been e-mailing them every month to find out what was going on

0:31:390:31:43

and wasn't really getting any straight answers.

0:31:430:31:45

And then I was told, eventually, that it didn't look likely

0:31:450:31:48

it was going to happen for about 18 months to two years.

0:31:480:31:51

The couple knew they couldn't wait.

0:31:510:31:54

But giving up on the dream wasn't an option.

0:31:540:31:56

We were 100% sure that we wanted to be here,

0:31:560:31:59

this is where we wanted to be.

0:31:590:32:01

And it was just a case of, right, how are we going to get there?

0:32:010:32:03

It was the focus we'd had, and obviously,

0:32:030:32:06

there's more ways of skinning a cat at the end of the day.

0:32:060:32:10

The turning point came when Gill discovered she was eligible

0:32:100:32:13

to become a nursing student in Australia.

0:32:130:32:16

I started the ball rolling from home,

0:32:160:32:18

filling the application forms in online

0:32:180:32:21

and being interviewed on the telephone.

0:32:210:32:25

Gill received an offer from Perth's University of Notre Dame

0:32:250:32:28

in April 2015,

0:32:280:32:30

and from that moment, it was all systems go.

0:32:300:32:33

Put this on to do your pulse.

0:32:340:32:36

Everything happened quite quickly.

0:32:370:32:39

Accepted for July, visa and everything was sorted.

0:32:390:32:41

The house went on the market, we got an offer on the house...

0:32:410:32:43

Just everything seemed to happen in...

0:32:430:32:46

-Weeks.

-Within weeks, didn't it?

-Yeah.

0:32:470:32:50

The couple decided Gill would go ahead

0:32:500:32:52

while Stuart and Matthew stayed in the UK to tie up loose ends.

0:32:520:32:56

You said as well, "No, you just go. I'll sort the house out."

0:32:560:33:00

And... Which was the scariest thought.

0:33:000:33:03

The drinking champagne as a family on the plane

0:33:060:33:08

coming over here celebrating what will be a new life

0:33:080:33:11

and that sort of thing was definitely shelved for a bit.

0:33:110:33:14

You make all these plans and, you know,

0:33:140:33:17

you have all these grand ideas, but it never happens like that.

0:33:170:33:21

That's life. Well, that's our life, isn't it?

0:33:210:33:23

It is, yeah.

0:33:230:33:24

Gill set of just weeks later,

0:33:240:33:27

but panic set in when she touched back down in Australia.

0:33:270:33:30

When I opened my phone at the airport,

0:33:300:33:32

I'd had a message from the university -

0:33:320:33:34

"If you don't enrol by 5 o'clock tomorrow, you're not on the course."

0:33:340:33:37

So that was a bit scary!

0:33:370:33:39

But I had e-mailed them prior to say that I was going to be arriving

0:33:390:33:43

very close to the uni start date.

0:33:430:33:46

Fortunately, she signed up the following day.

0:33:460:33:48

Staying with family,

0:33:480:33:50

Gill then spent the next few months adjusting to student life.

0:33:500:33:53

It was a big change for me, coming here

0:33:530:33:54

and getting my head in the books again.

0:33:540:33:56

Although it's great cos I'm just expanding my clinical knowledge

0:33:560:34:00

into another area, and it's quite exciting to go...

0:34:000:34:03

There's so many different areas you can go into in nursing.

0:34:030:34:07

By October, the house in the UK was sold,

0:34:070:34:09

and Stuart and Matthew could finally look forward

0:34:090:34:12

to starting their new life, too.

0:34:120:34:14

The money eventually hit our bank

0:34:160:34:18

the night before we were due to fly out,

0:34:180:34:20

which was just such a relief, more than anything else.

0:34:200:34:25

It was now... It's done now.

0:34:250:34:27

Let's get on this plane, let's enjoy the flight,

0:34:270:34:30

and let's just go.

0:34:300:34:31

But the journey back down under wasn't straightforward.

0:34:310:34:35

We ended up having a 40-odd-hour flight to get here,

0:34:350:34:39

which was, to say a bit of nightmare, was an understatement.

0:34:390:34:42

But, once you're here, you're here, and there's no going back.

0:34:420:34:46

Five weeks after their reunion,

0:34:460:34:48

Stuart, Gill and Matthew moved into their apartment in Fremantle,

0:34:480:34:52

minus their belongings from the UK.

0:34:520:34:54

It's just, like, nice for just finally to just be the three of us.

0:34:560:35:01

-Yeah.

-And it's our home.

0:35:010:35:03

-Sleeping on the floor.

-Sleeping on the floor.

0:35:030:35:05

But then, when the container arrived the following week,

0:35:050:35:08

it was just great.

0:35:080:35:10

It was like Christmas again.

0:35:100:35:11

Gill had picked the property before the boys arrived,

0:35:110:35:14

but Stuart was more than happy with her choice.

0:35:140:35:17

When I first viewed this apartment, I mean, this just blew me away.

0:35:190:35:23

To have an apartment with so much outdoor space.

0:35:230:35:26

A lot of the houses I was looking at didn't have this outdoor space.

0:35:260:35:30

And this sort of made me decide,

0:35:300:35:32

"Yeah, this is the sort of place that we could be."

0:35:320:35:35

It's certainly a fabulous outdoor space,

0:35:350:35:38

and the aspect overlooking the water is just...it's phenomenal.

0:35:380:35:42

It's so relaxing, very tranquil,

0:35:420:35:44

and it just adds to the whole environment.

0:35:440:35:47

Just watching the weather change of an evening,

0:35:470:35:51

watching everything go by,

0:35:510:35:52

You've just got everything here that you want, just to sit.

0:35:520:35:56

we have a lovely conversation, and the world goes by us.

0:35:560:35:59

And the one thing I like about out here -

0:35:590:36:01

if you spill the beer, you just hose it down.

0:36:010:36:04

How many beers do you have to spill?

0:36:040:36:06

Oh, heaven forbid! I'm never going to spill one.

0:36:060:36:09

Stuart and Gill's original plan was to convince

0:36:110:36:13

daughters Lauren and Samantha to follow them to Australia.

0:36:130:36:17

As it turned out, Lauren was first to make the move in 2014.

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So, I came back from America, and two weeks later,

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I packed my bags and went over to Australia, and I haven't been back.

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it was a couple of months after her 18th,

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she decided it was definitely the place for her,

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she wasn't waiting for anybody else, and she just upped and went.

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The two years since have seen massive changes in Lauren's life.

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I met my partner over here, managed to build a house,

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managed to get a job.

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You know, I work six days a week, and on the Sundays,

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you're allowed to go to the beach and appreciate the weather.

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And done with sailing the world,

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sister Samantha had decided to follow in her footsteps.

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I'd finished on cruise ships, but I still wasn't settling at home.

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Both of my sisters were out here at the time,

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and I just thought I'd come out here and give it a go.

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Stuart and Gill's original plans had been well and truly cast aside.

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It was initially our dream to bring them here,

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-and they're all here and we're not!

-They went without us!

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Yeah, we're being left out a little bit here.

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which was a bit strange, but we knew we'd get here at some point.

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I won't invite you next time...

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And now here, they're able to spend time as a family again.

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Obviously the main reason coming out here

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is to be with the children and the grandchildren.

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Although at times, Stuart and I think, "What have we done?"

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because it's so flipping noisy in here.

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We had 13 for Christmas dinner.

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They always seem to need feeding when they turn up.

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Somehow or other, these kids don't seem to eat in their own homes.

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Do you want a burger to go on your bun?

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But it's great.

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All joking apart, that's why we're here, that's family life.

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Matthew is enjoying spending time with his sisters.

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It's so much better just seeing them face-to-face,

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having a laugh with them, or doing whatever.

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-SAMANTHA:

-It is like dream come true

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cos it's been a long road to get here.

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We've all come out in dribs and drabs and now we're finally here,

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it's like the icing on the cake.

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Gill and Stuart meanwhile are enjoying getting to know

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their new granddaughter Elsie

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and hanging out with Olivia, who is now four.

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It's lovely the way she runs up, "Hello, Nanny!"

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It's nice, it's better than just seeing her on a television screen.

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It's great to be able to go and pick her up after school.

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When we get in, just spend an hour or two together, take her home.

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We're going down!

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It's such a pleasant time.

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Gill's parents flew out for some time with them all recently, too.

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Yeah, it was great, and they genuinely did have a great time.

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I've spoken to them since they've been home

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and they're already planning another trip out here.

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And Stuart's still in regular contact with his mum back in the UK.

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I still speak to her everyday, which is wonderful.

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-We bought her an iPad.

-We bought her an iPad.

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And, yeah, she's got really used to using that.

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Mum is very non-techno,

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but she can now do her shopping online, which is wonderful.

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Great to see her on a daily basis.

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-Can you see Grandad?

-I can see Dad!

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It's been an enjoyable few months, and having come this far,

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Gill's determined to make sure her decision to retrain pays off.

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Failing's not an option.

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We've committed too much to this.

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I mean, the ambulance service, that was completely out of my hands,

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applying for that job and not getting it at the end of the day.

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This is all in my hands.

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If I don't pass, come up to the grade,

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well, I fail, so that's just not going to happen.

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Meanwhile, she has a few casual part-time jobs on the go.

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I'm now teaching medical terminology to medical receptionists.

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I'm still doing a little bit of paramedic work as well.

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I'm on the books of an events company,

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so a combination of being able to go and watch

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some really fabulous events for nothing

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but doing my paramedic work as well.

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Although no longer his own boss,

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Stuart has recently returned to the catering industry.

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Since being in this industry again,

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I've realised that I have missed the industry a great deal

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and enjoy the hustle and bustle of what it provides.

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The salary has also proved palatable.

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For doing less hours,

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you're actually far better off financially than what you are,

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so it's been a big plus from our point of view,

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with coming over here.

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Certainly, financially, we're far better,

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time wise, we're far better.

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A win-win situation.

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Another perk is being able to work with daughter Samantha.

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I'm in charge of the cafe side

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and the daily runnings of the shop,

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and he's in charge of catering.

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All the orders in for that

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and everybody knows they're working off there?

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'And it's been working really well.'

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We haven't fought yet, anyway!

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Out of everyone, the only one Gill and Stuart have any concerns about

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is Matthew.

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When we first started talking about this journey, he was 13.

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He's arrived here at 17. He's neither a child nor an adult.

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Combining a business studies course with a part-time job,

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Matthew admits settling in has been hard.

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It's a bit surreal, really.

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Work and everything like that, pay, wages,

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everything is better here,

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and I feel the lifestyle is a lot better here,

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but...I'm still not sure yet.

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I think over the next six, eight months,

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time will tell on what's right for Matt,

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but I'm sure he'll decide what's right for him

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and make the right decision.

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Assuming Gill can secure a job once qualified,

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the couple will be able to apply for permanent residency.

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So now they're finally here, do they think they've made the right move?

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It's a dream come true from our point of view.

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Everything we wanted here is here for us in abundance.

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It's just a case of us appreciating everything that it's got.

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It's a big, big place, and we've got a lot to see,

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so we've got plenty of time to do it and we'll take our time enjoying it.

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I'm still 100% sure we've done the right thing.

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It's all worth it. The financial cost of it,

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selling everything we had in the UK to be out here,

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you can't put a price on being here with your children

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and your grandchildren.

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We haven't sacrificed anything by moving here.

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We've just gained a big yellow blob in the sky every day

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that seems to make everybody smile.

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Finally reunited with their children and grandchildren

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on the other side of the world,

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Stuart and Gill are living proof

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that where there's a will, there's a way.

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We wish the whole family a very happy future down under.

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