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Moving to the other side of the world

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can mean risking not only your own future,

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but your children's too.

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And in 2008,

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the McDermott family faced a tough choice

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between what life in Australia could offer

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and what it might cost.

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Four years on, we've caught up with them to find out how and where they are now.

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Australia was Karen McDermott's dream,

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and her family were set to emigrate

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when she received some devastating news.

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I discovered a lump in my breast and went to the doctor's and I had breast cancer.

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When you get something like that come along, thoughts of emigrating go to the back of your mind.

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Now fully recovered, Karen was determined to make the move despite her partner's doubts.

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'Karen's illness has made us seriously think,'

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"Should we prevent ourselves doing something

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"that maybe is going to niggle us for the rest of our lives?"

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So what became of the McDermotts' dream of a life down under?

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'At the time, it didn't feel like there was really much of way forward for a little while.'

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But I'm really, really happy with where we are now.

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In 2008, the McDermott family faced a huge decision -

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whether to build new lives and a new business

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on the other side of the world.

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Ahead of them was a week experiencing Australia.

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Today, we'll find out what's happened since then.

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Karen and Alan McDermott lived in Upminster with their children

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Zara, then 11, and Bradley, 7.

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Alan was a senior manager for a large IT company, but work had become a means to an end.

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Although I really enjoy my job, it's different every single day

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and it is challenging,

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I feel that sometimes it impinges slightly on the social side.

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After her battle with cancer, it was also important for Karen to slow things down a bit.

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When you live near London, life is so fast-paced,

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it would be nice just to step off

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that merry-go-round and do things at a slower pace, and enjoy doing them.

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Karen also had high hopes for a better way of life

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for her children.

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I want them to be children and enjoy their childhood, rather than worry about the next test that's coming.

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From what I've heard about Australia, they approach their education differently.

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It's not just about academics, it's more of a rounded education.

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Bradley, a talented tennis player, had his own ambitions in Australia.

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I want to play tennis quite a lot there,

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cos it's one of my favourite sports,

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and I don't want to miss out on it.

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If I'm famous, I could play in the Australian Open.

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Then aged 45, Alan and Karen were too old to get a working visa

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and the only way for them to realise their dream was to buy a business in Australia.

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Although they liked the idea of running a coffee shop, neither had any experience.

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It certainly means we'd have to make an investment,

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so we'd have to sell up here

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and we'd have to segregate some of our money to buy a business.

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'It's therefore important that we make that a success.'

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Financial security was just one concern for Karen.

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And although she'd been given the all clear, her health was still a major concern.

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Being through something like cancer, it is always on your mind.

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Is it going to come back? I'm hoping we don't have any more problems like that, but you never know.

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And support from her friends and family was a vital part of Karen's life in the UK.

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'The things that I'll find most difficult to leave,'

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obviously, are friends and family,

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and the things that are familiar to us.

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'But we've been thinking about this for such a long time now

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'that I've been through those scenarios in my mind and I am going to miss everybody desperately,'

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but we want to do this, so it will be a fantastic new beginning for us.

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For their trial week in Australia,

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the McDermotts journeyed more than 10,000 miles

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to the city of Adelaide,

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and after 23 hours in the air,

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Karen was ecstatic to finally touch down on Aussie soil.

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I just can't believe that we're here - after all these years of looking into Adelaide, we're here.

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We made it!

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With such high hopes, was the week ahead going to live up to their expectations?

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Adelaide is the capital of the state of South Australia

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and with a population of over a million people,

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it's also the country's fifth largest city.

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Home for the week was a three-bedroom property in Glenelg South,

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a popular beachside suburb.

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The house was an old-style property with plenty of space and character,

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and, most importantly, just a stone's throw from the beach.

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The McDermotts couldn't wait for their first taste of life down under.

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-That's nice, isn't it?

-A lovely long hallway.

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Yeah.

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-Look. Nice bed.

-It's really like an old house, isn't it?

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-It is. It has that old feel about it.

-Yeah. It's really charming.

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Oh, Karen, look.

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That's really nice.

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Wow, this is lovely.

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-It feels quite homely, doesn't it?

-It does.

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The family liked what they saw, and having just arrived,

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Alan was already thinking like an Aussie.

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First impression's been really good.

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I think we're only three roads away from the beach, so during the summer,

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it will be a very nice place to visit.

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It was a great start, but would the McDermotts be able to afford to live here?

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They had a big week ahead.

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Back in the UK, the McDermotts lived in a four-bedroomed family home

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in Upminster.

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With UK house prices falling, it was a risky time to sell.

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But they needed to raise enough money to fund a new home and business

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if they were to make the move.

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They hoped to have £275,000 to spend in Adelaide,

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and their ideal home would be the same size as their UK house

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but by the beach and with a pool.

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So, would their wallet be able to keep up with their dreams?

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They visited three properties to see what was on offer

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if they chose to move.

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The first was close to their rental accommodation in Glenelg.

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Just five minutes from the beach, it had three bedrooms

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and a pool.

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It was on the market for 620,000, around £285,000, at the time.

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Oh, it's a prison. It's got bars on the window.

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Don't say that!

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Not the best start. But did the pool impress?

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-Ooh, look!

-Look at that.

-Well, now, children, this puts a different perspective on the place.

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What's the water like?

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It's really cold.

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-Is it?

-Yeah.

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Well, it was the middle of winter, Bradley.

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-That needs a bit of work.

-That's lovely. So different to the outside.

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The indoors left Alan cold.

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It just feels on the dim side, doesn't it?

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But a classic Aussie feature got a warmer welcome.

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-Is that a closet?

-A walk-in wardrobe.

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-Your ultimate desire.

-Right up my street.

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The property had two more bedrooms, but were they big enough for the McDermotts?

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It's quite a small room, isn't it?

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-Yes, it is.

-It's all right for a guest bedroom,

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but I think for one of the children to use it all the time,

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it's a little bit too small.

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The kitchen's nice. It's all one room.

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I think I prefer a lounge that's segregated off from the kitchen.

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-A separate lounge as well?

-Yeah.

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Fortunately, the space they wanted was down the other end of the hall,

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with another open living room.

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-A surprise. There is a separate lounge.

-Yeah.

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What is it, study, lounge?

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That's really good, isn't it?

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It's very big.

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Things were looking up until Alan looked up.

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Fluorescent strips, not my cup of tea.

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So, after a good look round, what did the McDermotts make of the first house?

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Personally, I don't really like the place.

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It is 500 metres from the beach.

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Even so, I don't feel that it's close enough.

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If we're going to live by the sea, I want to live by the sea.

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-You want to overlook the water.

-I'm quite shocked how pricey it is around here.

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You don't really get a lot for your money.

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Finding space was clearly important for the McDermotts

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so would the second home offer them more of what they wanted?

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It was situated in Aldgate, in the hills surrounding Adelaide,

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about 25 minutes from the city.

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This three-bedroom home was on the market

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for 680,000 Australian dollars, then around £355,000.

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-This is... This is lovely.

-This is more like it!

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-This is better than the last one.

-This is really nice. We do like this.

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Their first impressions were good, even though it was 20 miles from the coast.

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Like the first house, it had an open-plan layout, with a large, modern kitchen.

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-I can see myself cooking here.

-Yes.

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I really could. It's decorated well.

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Even the prospect of Dad's cooking didn't put the children off.

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-I love this.

-So do I.

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Daddy could cook in here.

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He could cook one of his famous rogan josh.

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It was a great start but what about the rest of the house?

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This is quite spacious, isn't it?

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This could be, um, I don't know, could it be, like, a study?

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I think it could be a bedroom.

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You could probably use it as an office too.

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Alan's positive reaction was good news for Karen.

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And the large garden was just what the McDermotts had been hoping for in Australia.

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-They'd have great fun out here, wouldn't they?

-I think they would.

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It's got character. They'd hide and run about.

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The house and garden were both big pluses.

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But something still wasn't quite right.

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I think the building, on its own, in isolation, is superb.

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We really like the inside.

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It's very spacious. We like the garden.

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There are some downsides. I don't want to sound negative, but it is a long way away from everything.

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There are no shops in walking distance.

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Some people might like that, but for us, we like to be reasonably near to civilisation, don't we?

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And for Zara, one important thing was missing.

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-I think we would rather a swimming pool in the garden.

-Well, there you go.

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That's something we thought was the norm, a given, in Australia.

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We're not sure it is now.

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House-hunting in Adelaide was becoming an eye-opening experience for the McDermotts.

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One more option remained.

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Situated in the suburb of Woodford, this four-bedroom house was older in style and needed updating.

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It was the cheapest of the three properties, then on the market

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for 600,000 Australian dollars, around £275,000.

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It's going to be an interesting home, isn't it?

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-It certainly is.

-This is going to be interesting.

-Is this a games room?

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Yes, we could spend a bit of time in here.

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-Do you want one of these?

-Yeah.

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-It has a nice feel, this room.

-It does, doesn't it?

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Things looked promising but would the upstairs layout suit the family?

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It's a bit '60s.

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It does, yeah. It feels very '60s.

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When you stand outside a property,

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you normally...comment on the brickwork,

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but looking at the brickwork internally, it makes it feel a bit dull and dark.

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I think a lot of Australian homes have got this.

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-Have they?

-Internal brickwork effect.

-But it's a dark brick.

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It really does dim the place down.

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The Ramsay Street brickwork was a real letdown.

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A nice-sized kitchen.

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It's quite nice, isn't it?

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-It needs updating.

-It does need updating.

-It does.

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It looked like an expensive project.

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At least the master bedroom had the space Karen wanted.

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You have the walk-in wardrobe so you don't need a massive room.

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You don't, actually. En-suite bathroom.

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-Again, it needs updating, doesn't it?

-Yeah.

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Would the garden have that much-needed wow factor?

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Look. There we are.

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-Barbecue area.

-This is nice. This is nice and tidy round here.

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It's quite a small garden, really.

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-I expected it to go back much further.

-Yeah.

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In Australia, you expect triple the size, easily, wouldn't you?

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-Yeah.

-OK.

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The dream of a big garden and pool in every home was left high and dry.

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Seeing how far their budget would go

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had been a real wake-up call.

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You think you'll come out here and find something absolutely fab for next to nothing.

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And then you suddenly start to feel that,

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"Hm, I think we're going to have to come out here

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"and work just as hard as we work in the UK."

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-It's knocked a dream into a bit of a reality check.

-Yeah.

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-Definitely has.

-Things are a bit more expensive than we thought.

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-They are a lot more expensive than we first thought.

-Yeah.

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The first house was too pricey and too small.

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The second had the space they needed but was too far from the city.

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The third house was unwanted down under.

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So how did the McDermotts vote on Aussie homes?

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Based on the properties that we've seen today,

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compared to our property in the UK,

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our decision is...

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-..England.

-Australia.

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With Karen and Alan unable to agree, the week was off to a tricky start.

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Karen and Alan were unable to qualify for a work visa.

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so the McDermotts' hopes of moving depended on buying a company outright.

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They hope to run a coffee shop, something neither of them had ever done before.

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They headed to a neighbourhood cafe to try their hand at the daily grind of running a business.

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The nerves were beginning to kick in.

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I'm a bit worried about it, especially if they try and get us to use one of those coffee machines.

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I don't quite know how we're going to get on with it.

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Not an encouraging sign but Alan was thinking of the big picture.

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It will give us a good opening,

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I think, into the operational side of things.

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What it's like dealing with the public

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and putting up with the rush hour

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and the peak times and I think that's going to be quite interesting.

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The pressure was on for Karen's dream as any chance of moving

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would boil down to what they found out today.

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Owner Lisa Fabrey put the McDermotts straight to work.

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First, chef Manu made sure Alan was suitably attired.

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You know how to put it.

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-You put it round the front?

-Yes.

-OK.

-That's it, nice and tight.

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I don't want it to fall down, do I?

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-Start the burgers...

-While Alan got stuck into the cooking,

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-Karen handled the customers.

-Sure.

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As the lunchtime rush began, things began to heat up for both of them.

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Which meant Karen facing her fear of the coffee machine.

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Coffee nice and smooth, yeah.

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Burger coming through.

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With Mum and Dad getting used to cafe culture,

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Zara and Bradley were guests at a local tennis court.

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The children love to play at their local club.

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Bradley qualified for extra coaching from the Lawn Tennis Association.

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Could Australia's outdoor lifestyle and coaching raise their game?

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I think Australia is definitely better than England,

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because it's got everything England has, and more.

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But Bradley knew Mum and Dad weren't as sure.

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Our mum really likes it, but our dad is just 50-50. He's not sure.

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How did they think their parents would do running a cafe?

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My mum would be very friendly. A friendly person to work with.

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And my dad would be a brilliant chef.

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He'd be very demanding sometimes.

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Back at work, the lunchtime rush was over.

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Karen and Alan took the opportunity to talk to Lisa

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about the ups and downs of running a business.

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Like the McDermotts,

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Lisa and her husband had no experience of running a coffee shop

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when they first opened their doors.

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Her advice could have been vital.

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You've got to think about the upfront costs of buying a business,

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but then, you're not going to make a profit for quite some time.

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-Probably a year?

-Well, a year would be good, I think, from what I hear.

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Is this after you've paid yourself a wage or are you taking next to nothing?

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Well, what happened for the first four months was

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that I paid myself a wage and then I put it back in again.

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So I considered that my investment in the business.

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-Apparently, it's really good to get a wage out of it at all in the first year.

-Really?

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Do you still get social time, though?

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-Me?

-With family?

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As a family?

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Not very much at the moment.

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I still see us in the very early stages of setting up a business

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and I don't expect not to be working a lot.

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But I think that gets easier because there's so much to put in

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at the beginning, you've got to lay those foundations.

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It looked as if starting a business would take a huge investment of time and money.

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They'd enjoyed their day but the McDermotts' dream of emigrating

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was going to be harder than they thought.

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I think we've realised that we would have to make much more of a financial

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investment and we'd have to put in a lot more hours than we first thought.

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So what was their verdict?

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-England.

-England.

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A vote for home was a huge blow to the McDermotts' plans.

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After experiencing the reality of running a business in Australia,

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Karen and Alan had learnt some important lessons.

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I've realised that, actually, it's going to be, financially, quite challenging for us.

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We need to turn over something like 200,000 to run a business per annum.

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Shall we say, our naive approach has been dented severely.

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After a tough day at work, the McDermotts urgently needed to see

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an upside to life in Adelaide, and its lifestyle didn't disappoint.

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It doesn't feel like a city. It's more like a big town.

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It just has a really lovely feel.

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It's great for the family. Great for the kids.

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As a treat for the children,

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Karen and Alan took them to a local family attraction.

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With the hours they worked in the UK,

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it was a rare chance for the family to spend quality time together

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and a welcome break from Karen and Alan's worries.

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But while the children were happy, Mum and Dad's experience at the coffee shop

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was still on their minds.

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When we spoke to Lisa yesterday at the cafe

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about not only the amount of commitment and hours

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that she has to put in, which we kind of expected,

0:21:030:21:07

it was just the thought of the financial side of things

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and the fact that she's, you know, not making the money

0:21:120:21:15

that we would expect her to make.

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In fact, she's lucky to break even at times. It's a bit of a worry.

0:21:170:21:21

I don't want to go home because England is cold and it doesn't have

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anything like this, and it's amazing to be here.

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It looked like the children had fallen for the Adelaide lifestyle.

0:21:280:21:31

Everywhere you look, there's something you want to go to.

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But did everyone agree?

0:21:380:21:39

Based on the Australian lifestyle we've seen today, our decision is...

0:21:390:21:44

ALL: Australia!

0:21:440:21:46

Their week in Adelaide showed the McDermotts that

0:21:520:21:54

moving down under would come at a high price.

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But there was one more cost they still had to face.

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Hello!

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Hi, Karen, Alan, Zara and Bradley.

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I hope you've had a good time this week and seen lots of Australia.

0:22:050:22:09

-Kangaroos!

-And kangaroos.

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Hi, Karen and Alan. Message from Mum and Dad to you and the kids.

0:22:130:22:17

I hope you've had an absolutely wonderful time there

0:22:170:22:21

and seen everything you need to see

0:22:210:22:24

before you make a really big decision.

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Karen, she's my big sister.

0:22:290:22:31

She's wonderful.

0:22:310:22:33

She's a very sociable person.

0:22:340:22:35

She's very outgoing, very easy to talk to.

0:22:350:22:39

Gets on with everybody, really. She's good fun.

0:22:390:22:42

The courage and dignity that she bore that illness with was fantastic.

0:22:420:22:50

She was always up and, "Right, I'm going to get through this day."

0:22:500:22:53

And was just fantastically strong throughout the whole thing.

0:22:530:22:57

Our biggest concern really is her health.

0:22:580:23:02

If she should become ill, we won't be there...

0:23:020:23:05

-..which we were before.

-The other thing is

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the change in direction...

0:23:120:23:15

The fact that they're looking to go into a totally different field.

0:23:150:23:20

I just think it's barmy, but there we are. LAUGHTER

0:23:200:23:24

If he does it, fine, good luck to him.

0:23:240:23:27

We'll help as much as we can, but I think...

0:23:270:23:31

it's not a good thing to do.

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The main thing I'll miss is having that person

0:23:330:23:37

that I know is always there.

0:23:370:23:39

If you do go...

0:23:410:23:43

-we'll be with you.

-We'll be there.

0:23:430:23:46

If this is what you really want and this is your dream, go for it.

0:23:460:23:51

I hope you've got your sums right, kids, I'm sure you have.

0:23:530:23:57

But do double-check your figures, but, erm...

0:23:570:23:59

Whatever your decision is, you know we're with you. We'll see you soon.

0:23:590:24:05

-Bye from both of us.

-Bye!

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When you watch something like that, it really hits you hard, about how everybody feels.

0:24:100:24:15

It's not just about how we feel about being here.

0:24:150:24:18

It's how it's going to affect those that we might leave behind.

0:24:180:24:23

-We'll always love them.

-Of course we will.

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Having seen that video, or DVD,

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of people that we know and love and are close to us, um,

0:24:290:24:36

I don't think I've got over the shock.

0:24:360:24:39

In fact, your mum and dad are more concerned about your illness than you are.

0:24:390:24:45

We're trying to move on, we're trying to turn over a new page.

0:24:450:24:50

Your mum and dad are going to live with that.

0:24:500:24:53

You're right. I don't want to be a slave to having an illness like cancer.

0:24:530:25:00

I'd like to be able to put it behind me and just move forward now, really.

0:25:000:25:05

It made me feel very sad.

0:25:050:25:07

It made me think of what I've got and how lucky I am to have everything,

0:25:070:25:13

have Nan and Grandad always there for me.

0:25:130:25:17

I've got a really great family and I just don't want to leave them now.

0:25:170:25:22

It was the end of a revealing week for the McDermotts.

0:25:220:25:25

They'd had a great time getting to know Australia

0:25:250:25:28

and fallen in love with the lifestyle.

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But at the heart of the move was their plan to buy a business.

0:25:300:25:33

After seeing just how tough that would be,

0:25:330:25:36

Karen's long-held dream of a move down under seemed under threat.

0:25:360:25:40

We've seen so much and done so much in a short space of time.

0:25:410:25:46

It's just too much, it's information overload. We need time for it to sink in now.

0:25:460:25:51

It might be a dream for us but it could end up being a nightmare for us as well,

0:25:510:25:58

and for our friends and family at home.

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For me, I don't know whether we'll make it or not.

0:26:020:26:07

So, watch this space.

0:26:070:26:09

With so much at stake, how did they vote?

0:26:180:26:21

It's been a roller-coaster of emotions this week.

0:26:210:26:24

We've viewed properties, we've worked in a cafe, we've met new people.

0:26:240:26:29

It's really been a fantastic experience for us.

0:26:290:26:34

It's really put us into turmoil now.

0:26:340:26:37

It's been very hard to take in how different it is to England.

0:26:370:26:42

-That's true.

-It's going to be a tough decision, isn't it...

0:26:420:26:46

-Yeah.

-..at the end of the day? Because we've had fun, we've had emotion, we've had tears.

0:26:460:26:51

Our decision is...

0:26:510:26:55

-UK!

-Australia!

0:26:550:26:56

There week in Australia left the McDermotts split

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right down the middle.

0:27:060:27:08

For Karen and Alan, life down under came at simply too high a price.

0:27:080:27:12

But Zara and Bradley were won over and ready to pack their bags.

0:27:120:27:16

So, four years on, where are they now?

0:27:160:27:20

The McDermotts are living in...

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the UK.

0:27:230:27:25

Karen, Alan,

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Zara and Bradley

0:27:270:27:29

have settled back into life just outside London.

0:27:290:27:33

Their week in Australia convinced them

0:27:330:27:35

that emigrating wasn't the right decision.

0:27:350:27:38

We realised that it wasn't for us.

0:27:400:27:42

We had a great week but the reality of the property prices

0:27:420:27:46

and running the business -

0:27:460:27:47

it was just too much.

0:27:470:27:51

It wasn't the dream that we thought it was going to be.

0:27:510:27:54

Consequently, by the end of the process,

0:27:540:27:59

we'd completely flipped 180 and said, "No, I think it's the UK for us."

0:27:590:28:05

Bit of a double-edged sword.

0:28:050:28:07

Some sadness, because it was something that we'd looked at

0:28:070:28:11

for a really long time but also it was a relief that we now know the UK is where we live

0:28:110:28:16

and where we're going to stay.

0:28:160:28:20

It helped us look at our future here, rather than in Australia.

0:28:200:28:25

You roll the dice...

0:28:260:28:28

But staying in the UK doesn't mean that nothing's changed for the McDermotts.

0:28:280:28:32

In fact, their experiences helped them

0:28:320:28:34

take a look at what was really important to their family.

0:28:340:28:38

We had work out what the next thing for us was to do.

0:28:380:28:42

For us, it was about trying to drive some more leisure time

0:28:420:28:48

into our UK lifestyle.

0:28:480:28:51

Like thousands of families, the McDermotts downsized,

0:28:530:28:56

selling their four-bedroom house

0:28:560:28:58

and buying and renovating a smaller property nearby.

0:28:580:29:01

It's been quite a journey.

0:29:010:29:03

The house that we moved from, it was a lovely big house.

0:29:040:29:08

It had a lot of character to it.

0:29:080:29:10

It was sad, in a way, to leave it.

0:29:120:29:15

But... And it was lot of upheaval.

0:29:160:29:18

When we bought this property,

0:29:180:29:20

it had been rented out for a few years so

0:29:200:29:23

it had not been looked after.

0:29:230:29:26

It was in a very unloved state. More importantly,

0:29:260:29:28

it wasn't the size we wanted it to be, so decided to extend it.

0:29:280:29:33

We put a double-storey extension on the house

0:29:330:29:36

and we've put in some nice touches that we wanted.

0:29:360:29:41

It's been a big change for the whole family but

0:29:410:29:44

with some real benefits.

0:29:440:29:45

It took a bit of adjustment to move into a smaller property

0:29:450:29:49

that was run down. That was hard.

0:29:490:29:52

But we got there in the end.

0:29:520:29:54

Zara went from having a really big room at the old house

0:29:540:29:57

to having a boxroom.

0:29:570:29:59

She struggled with that for a while.

0:29:590:30:02

From the children's point of view,

0:30:020:30:04

I think it took them a little while to adjust.

0:30:040:30:07

First of all, it was tough because we'd moved from a big, stable house

0:30:070:30:11

to this house and it was about a third of the size of our old house

0:30:110:30:18

so it was quite small.

0:30:180:30:20

But Zara and Bradley aren't missing their old house too much.

0:30:200:30:23

When doing up the new place, Mum and Dad

0:30:230:30:25

built in a special feature.

0:30:250:30:27

I prefer this house because we've got a games room.

0:30:280:30:31

It's so much better!

0:30:310:30:33

We've managed to give them a social area in the house

0:30:330:30:37

that they can now use to bring their friends round

0:30:370:30:40

and watch TV in there, chill out.

0:30:400:30:43

That's been a benefit for them.

0:30:430:30:46

Oh!

0:30:470:30:49

I really do like this house.

0:30:490:30:51

It's been much more tailor-made to our requirements.

0:30:510:30:55

It's situated in a better place than our last house was.

0:30:550:31:00

Much more convenient for us.

0:31:000:31:02

Obviously, they don't have the big mortgage they used to have.

0:31:020:31:06

Giving up their big home AND its big mortgage was key to giving

0:31:060:31:09

the McDermott family what they wanted -

0:31:090:31:11

more money to spend on leisure and the chance to enjoy it together.

0:31:110:31:15

Downsizing has meant we can spend more family time.

0:31:160:31:20

Sometimes you just want to say, "Let's go out tonight,"

0:31:200:31:24

and not think, "Can we afford to do that?"

0:31:240:31:26

Now, we can say, "Yeah." We can go out for a meal every now and again, which is lovely.

0:31:260:31:31

We've found that trying to have more time for the things that we enjoy

0:31:310:31:35

is really important.

0:31:350:31:37

That's the four of us, not just for the children.

0:31:370:31:40

We've got the tennis, I play a bit of golf occasionally,

0:31:400:31:43

if I get the time at weekends.

0:31:430:31:45

It was their week in Australia that inspired the McDermotts to

0:31:460:31:50

put family life ahead of work.

0:31:500:31:51

With more money and time,

0:31:510:31:54

they've even rediscovered some hidden talents.

0:31:540:31:57

'I've played guitar since I was eight years old'

0:31:570:32:02

and now I can spend a bit of weekends doing a bit of song-writing,

0:32:020:32:05

and Zara's got a great voice,

0:32:050:32:07

'she enjoys singing, so we're starting to record together now

0:32:070:32:10

'and really got the passion back for music.'

0:32:100:32:13

# Just shoot for the stars if it feels right

0:32:140:32:17

# Then aim for my heart if you feel like

0:32:170:32:20

# And take me away

0:32:200:32:22

# I'll make it OK

0:32:220:32:24

# I swear I'll behave. #

0:32:240:32:26

I definitely think my parents are a lot happier than they were before

0:32:270:32:31

because, obviously, with this new house,

0:32:310:32:35

it's definitely made them feel a lot more relaxed

0:32:350:32:38

because before, they were worrying about mortgage and money

0:32:380:32:41

'and my dad works from home a lot now, most of the time,

0:32:410:32:44

'so he's always around,

0:32:440:32:46

'so it's really great to have that family unit together.'

0:32:460:32:49

BOTH: # I'll show you all the moves like Jagger

0:32:490:32:52

# I've got the moves like Jagger

0:32:520:32:53

# I've got the moves like Jagger... #

0:32:530:32:57

One of Karen's fears about moving to Australia

0:33:020:33:05

was being far from her parents.

0:33:050:33:07

The new house has really solved that problem.

0:33:070:33:10

'Since we moved to this house,

0:33:100:33:12

'we live been a lot closer to my parents.

0:33:120:33:15

'We live at the back of a park

0:33:150:33:16

'and they live on the other corner of the park,

0:33:160:33:19

'so we do see a fair bit of them

0:33:190:33:21

'and now they're getting a bit older,'

0:33:210:33:23

it's quite nice, I think, that we're close by

0:33:230:33:27

and I can keep my eye on them

0:33:270:33:29

and, you know, be there for them if they need us

0:33:290:33:32

'and I think they feel reassured as well, that we're close by.

0:33:320:33:37

'They often just pop round for a coffee

0:33:370:33:40

'on the off chance that we're in, and we do the same.

0:33:400:33:43

'My parents were quite vocal about the fact

0:33:470:33:49

'that they didn't want us to go to Australia

0:33:490:33:51

'and they could see that it would have been financial ruin for us'

0:33:510:33:55

but we said we needed to go and look at this

0:33:550:33:59

and make our own decisions, it was something that we want to do,

0:33:590:34:02

so they had to really understand

0:34:020:34:05

'where we were coming from.

0:34:050:34:07

'I think with going through the breast cancer that I went through,

0:34:070:34:12

'you do tend to rely on your friends so much more

0:34:120:34:14

'and your family, obviously.'

0:34:140:34:16

Everyone around you becomes key in your life,

0:34:160:34:19

so if we'd gone to Australia, we wouldn't have had that network.

0:34:190:34:23

Having shared so much together, in the end, it was family ties

0:34:230:34:27

that made moving to Australia a step too far.

0:34:270:34:30

Hi, Karen and Alan, a message from Mum and Dad to you and the kids.

0:34:330:34:37

'In Australia, watching the video of the family and friends,

0:34:370:34:41

'it was quite heartbreaking.

0:34:410:34:43

'I don't think any of us expected to feel quite as emotional as we did.

0:34:430:34:47

'I'm glad we did,'

0:34:470:34:49

because it just again helped to cement our decision

0:34:490:34:52

'on staying in the UK.'

0:34:520:34:55

If this is what you really want to do, this is your dream,

0:34:550:34:58

then go for it.

0:34:580:34:59

'My parents were really quite relieved.'

0:35:000:35:03

In fact, Mum gave me a big hug when she found out that we weren't going

0:35:030:35:07

and that we were staying here, so yeah, they were absolutely

0:35:070:35:10

'over the moon that we were staying.'

0:35:100:35:12

-Brings it back, doesn't it?

-It certainly does.

0:35:120:35:15

-We're not gone.

-No!

-We're still here.

0:35:150:35:18

We're still here, we've not gone.

0:35:180:35:21

I look at it, and as I said,

0:35:210:35:24

I realise just how much we would have missed

0:35:240:35:27

not seeing them grow up and develop

0:35:270:35:31

and that would have been the saddest part, I think.

0:35:310:35:34

I think...

0:35:340:35:36

One of the big reasons that we didn't go was because of friends and family.

0:35:360:35:41

We would have had to make a completely new network of friends

0:35:410:35:45

and connections out there,

0:35:450:35:48

and I think it was important that...

0:35:480:35:50

you know, it was important in our decision process.

0:35:500:35:53

-It's a lovely country, there's no doubt about it.

-Oh, yes.

0:35:530:35:56

-But...

-Not for you.

0:35:560:35:58

-No.

-No.

-I'm very pleased about that.

0:35:580:36:00

THEY LAUGH

0:36:000:36:02

One thing that attracted both Karen and Alan to Australia

0:36:020:36:06

was the chance to enjoy a more outdoor lifestyle,

0:36:060:36:09

so were they able to make that dream come true without moving down under?

0:36:090:36:13

I think at the point when we came back and we realised

0:36:150:36:17

that it just wouldn't have been the right decision for us to go

0:36:170:36:20

at that point in our lives,

0:36:200:36:22

we could then look forward and just close the door on that chapter,

0:36:220:36:26

so it really did help us enormously in that respect.

0:36:260:36:30

One of our goals was to buy a property abroad,

0:36:300:36:33

so we could enjoy our holidays more

0:36:330:36:35

and feel more at home in the place that we were holidaying in,

0:36:350:36:40

if you like, so we started to look at various different locations abroad

0:36:400:36:45

and Bulgaria was in the top ten places to buy, and we bought...

0:36:450:36:52

We bought a property in a place called St Vlas near Sunny Beach.

0:36:520:36:57

It's just great fun. It's just great fun, and we really, really enjoy it.

0:36:570:37:00

The children have got friendships with other children their own age

0:37:000:37:04

and it just means that we can spend more time together as a family

0:37:040:37:08

and we've found as well that my parents enjoy coming with us

0:37:080:37:12

and so does my sister and her family,

0:37:120:37:15

so we're having extended family holidays over there.

0:37:150:37:19

Again, that's something

0:37:190:37:20

that we didn't really think about when we bought the place,

0:37:200:37:23

but they love coming back with us year after year,

0:37:230:37:26

so that side of it has been absolutely fantastic.

0:37:260:37:29

With their villa in Bulgaria,

0:37:290:37:31

things have turned out rosy for Mum and Dad,

0:37:310:37:34

but it was Zara and Bradley who fell in love with life in Adelaide.

0:37:340:37:38

Both of them voted for a move to Australia,

0:37:380:37:41

so how have they settled back into life in the UK?

0:37:410:37:44

When my parents decided to stay in the UK, I was a bit gutted,

0:37:440:37:49

really, because I wanted to move to Australia along with my brother.

0:37:490:37:53

Yeah, I was disappointed when they told me that we weren't moving,

0:37:530:37:57

because I really wanted to go out there and because it was

0:37:570:38:02

so fun, it was, like, a once-in-a-lifetime thing.

0:38:020:38:05

It can't be a family decision, something like that, it has to come from us,

0:38:050:38:09

and then we have to explain to the children

0:38:090:38:11

why it's not going to happen, why we're not going to emigrate.

0:38:110:38:14

I think they were disappointed cos they'd seen some really good things

0:38:140:38:18

and they'd spent the whole of their week

0:38:180:38:20

doing things that they'd never done before.

0:38:200:38:23

What Bradley loved about Australia was all that sport out in the sun,

0:38:230:38:28

so how's he getting on at home?

0:38:280:38:30

Bradley has just this year started secondary school

0:38:300:38:33

so he's getting to grips with that now and doing really well.

0:38:330:38:37

I'm really pleased with how he's getting on,

0:38:370:38:40

and he's getting involved in his tennis at school and outside school.

0:38:400:38:45

He's done a bit of golf, rugby,

0:38:450:38:48

any sport going, really, Bradley's up for.

0:38:480:38:51

He's a real sporty boy, always on the go.

0:38:510:38:54

Great play, Bradley, well done.

0:38:550:38:58

I really enjoy doing tennis.

0:38:580:39:00

It's like the tennis court's pretty much my second home.

0:39:000:39:02

It would have been a lot harder for tennis out there because I have

0:39:020:39:06

a lot of friends here that sometimes I play matches with.

0:39:060:39:10

I do lessons with them and they're really nice.

0:39:100:39:12

It would have been a really big change for me

0:39:120:39:15

and would have been really hard.

0:39:150:39:17

And Zara's making leaps and bounds with her music and her studies.

0:39:200:39:25

Zara's doing really well at school.

0:39:280:39:30

She's predicted to get high grades in her GCSEs.

0:39:300:39:33

She works hard, always gets her homework done,

0:39:330:39:36

so we're very proud of how she's getting on.

0:39:360:39:39

But for Zara, her week in Australia was a life-changing experience,

0:39:390:39:43

one she's not forgotten.

0:39:430:39:45

After falling in love with the Adelaide lifestyle,

0:39:450:39:48

she's now got her own dreams of one day making a move down under.

0:39:480:39:52

I think she's happy where she is now but whether she'll still be here

0:39:520:39:55

in a few years' time when she's an adult, I don't know.

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She's had a taste of Australia and, er, she has mentioned that she

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would like to go back maybe to work there one day.

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I want to be an obstetrician or go into that sort of career path,

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so I know that Australia offers a lot of opportunities out there

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for people wanting to follow my career path, so, you know,

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I definitely will be considering moving there when I'm older.

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When I went to Australia, erm,

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it was a really good experience for me

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because I learned a lot about what houses are going to be like there,

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the culture, the lifestyle, how to run your own business.

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It's definitely given me a huge learning curve in moving there.

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If that's what she wants to do then we couldn't hold her back,

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we'd miss her like mad, um,

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but we'd have to go and visit if she did decide to stay there.

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For the McDermott family, staying in the UK was a tough choice,

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but it seems the right one.

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And they're looking forward to the future,

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surrounded by friends and family.

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Feel like I've come full circle, really,

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but really, really happy with where we are now

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and what we've achieved since we had to shelve our plans.

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At the time, it didn't feel like there was much of a way forward

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for a little while, but we sat down and took stock

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and looking back on it all now,

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I'm really glad that we didn't go to Australia.

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I don't regret trying it,

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and I don't regret going through the process, and we've made a very

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informed decision, and now I don't regret staying in the UK either.

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In the end, their week in Australia did lead to big changes,

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just not the ones the McDermotts had planned.

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I like where we're living, I like being close to my mum and dad,

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my sister's not that far away either.

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We're in a better financial position than we were a few years ago

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and we've got our nice little holiday home where

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we can get a sunshine fix, so that's probably the benefits of being here.

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And do Zara and Bradley agree?

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I think they're a lot happier now that we've stayed in the UK,

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especially because of the move.

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We've been doing so much better since the move.

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I do think it was the right decision not going,

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because it has...it would have definitely put a lot of strain on

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our family moving there, and I think we would have ended up moving back.

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With the children happy and family life reorganised,

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things are looking good for the McDermotts.

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I definitely think, as a family, the McDermotts belong in the UK.

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It looks as if Australia helped the McDermotts make the changes

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they were searching for after all,

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and staying in the UK was the right choice for the family,

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with the holiday home a lovely bonus.

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But for at least one McDermott,

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the dream of an Aussie life isn't quite over yet.

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We wish them all the best.

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