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All of us have a dream, | 0:00:02 | 0:00:03 | |
but if you've been | 0:00:03 | 0:00:04 | |
through the torment | 0:00:04 | 0:00:05 | |
of seeing your biggest one vanish, | 0:00:05 | 0:00:07 | |
how far would you go to ensure your next one came true, | 0:00:07 | 0:00:10 | |
especially if you had to convince your partner | 0:00:10 | 0:00:12 | |
to sacrifice everything they love | 0:00:12 | 0:00:15 | |
for a new life on the other side of the world? | 0:00:15 | 0:00:18 | |
Former Olympic diver Ben Swain | 0:00:19 | 0:00:21 | |
is desperate to carve out a new life in Australia. | 0:00:21 | 0:00:25 | |
There's more things in Australia that appeal to me | 0:00:25 | 0:00:28 | |
that I could be doing | 0:00:28 | 0:00:30 | |
that I just don't have an opportunity to do here. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:32 | |
But happily-settled-in-the-UK wife Kate's far from convinced. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:37 | |
For me to kind of have the same enthusiasm as Ben is difficult | 0:00:37 | 0:00:41 | |
because I've got a lot more to lose than he does. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:45 | |
When a trial week down under shows them both | 0:00:45 | 0:00:47 | |
what moving could really cost... | 0:00:47 | 0:00:49 | |
I don't think we'd be able to afford that anyway. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:52 | |
It's not looking good so far. | 0:00:52 | 0:00:53 | |
..will Ben see his dream come true or watch it sink forever? | 0:00:53 | 0:00:58 | |
Famed for its laid-back lifestyle, | 0:01:21 | 0:01:24 | |
spectacular scenery and a buoyant economy, | 0:01:24 | 0:01:26 | |
Australia's been the number one destination for Brits moving abroad | 0:01:26 | 0:01:30 | |
for the last two decades. | 0:01:30 | 0:01:32 | |
On average, every day, 23 families from the UK | 0:01:32 | 0:01:35 | |
arrive in the country to start a new life in the sun, | 0:01:35 | 0:01:39 | |
so it's no surprise 5% of the country's total population | 0:01:39 | 0:01:43 | |
were born in Britain. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:44 | |
Ever since representing Great Britain | 0:01:46 | 0:01:49 | |
at the Commonwealth Games in 2006, | 0:01:49 | 0:01:51 | |
former Olympic diver Ben Swain | 0:01:51 | 0:01:53 | |
has dreamt of setting up home in Australia. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:57 | |
Forced to retire from the pool, | 0:01:57 | 0:01:59 | |
Ben's now desperate to carve out an exciting new life | 0:01:59 | 0:02:02 | |
in the country that's captured his heart. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:05 | |
First, though, he'll have to convince wife Katie | 0:02:05 | 0:02:08 | |
to give up everything she loves in the UK | 0:02:08 | 0:02:10 | |
to start again in a country she's never even visited | 0:02:10 | 0:02:14 | |
and he's got just one week to do it. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:18 | |
The couple's trial week begins with 26 hours on the move | 0:02:19 | 0:02:23 | |
flying from London to Brisbane via Dubai and Singapore. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:26 | |
And when they finally touch down in Australia, | 0:02:26 | 0:02:29 | |
Ben's feeling the effects of the mammoth trip. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:32 | |
I'm really tired. It's been a while since I've done that journey. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:35 | |
He may be exhausted, but he's upbeat about being back down under. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:40 | |
I haven't been here for so long. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:41 | |
I want to get out, see what it's got to offer. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:43 | |
I've never been to Brisbane. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:45 | |
The weather. I'd love to get out in this weather. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:48 | |
Katie, though, has more than the sun on her mind. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:50 | |
It's a bit of a challenge. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:54 | |
One, the flight was very long | 0:02:54 | 0:02:57 | |
and also leaving all my friends and family back home. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:01 | |
Ben's already got a plan for getting her onside, though. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:04 | |
I'm looking for Australia to convince Katie rather than me. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:08 | |
I think I'm going to try and take a back step | 0:03:08 | 0:03:11 | |
and not be too pushy and just get an honest opinion | 0:03:11 | 0:03:14 | |
from what you think of it. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:15 | |
Whether that'll work | 0:03:16 | 0:03:18 | |
and be the springboard to the future he wants | 0:03:18 | 0:03:20 | |
will be revealed in the next seven days. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:23 | |
Back in the UK, 28-year-old Ben and 26-year-old Katie Swain | 0:03:26 | 0:03:31 | |
live in Sutton-in-Ashfield in Nottinghamshire. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:33 | |
The couple met in 2005 at a party in Katie's home town in Scotland. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:39 | |
I was visiting friends and then you also knew the friends | 0:03:39 | 0:03:42 | |
and then we ended up spending New Year's Eve together. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:45 | |
Yeah, and thought I'd never see him again | 0:03:45 | 0:03:47 | |
and then, ten years later, we're now married. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:49 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:03:49 | 0:03:51 | |
Ben was passionate about his career, | 0:03:51 | 0:03:53 | |
representing Great Britain as a professional diver. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:56 | |
Diving was my life. | 0:03:56 | 0:03:57 | |
There was nothing else that I did or could do | 0:03:57 | 0:04:00 | |
cos you're training so much. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:02 | |
It's intense, there's pressure, there's excitement, | 0:04:02 | 0:04:04 | |
there's highs and lows, | 0:04:04 | 0:04:06 | |
so it really consumes you, engulfs you. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:09 | |
Competing all over the world, | 0:04:09 | 0:04:11 | |
Ben made his Olympic debut in Beijing in 2008 | 0:04:11 | 0:04:14 | |
and won his first international gold medal in Mexico a year later. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:19 | |
Meanwhile, supportive girlfriend Katie stayed home alone. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:22 | |
It was very exciting, though, | 0:04:23 | 0:04:25 | |
cos you get to watch him on TV and compete. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:28 | |
I remember one competition, when I was sat in bed on my own | 0:04:28 | 0:04:30 | |
at three o'clock in the morning watching and he won gold. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:33 | |
I was so excited, I had to phone my brother and be like, | 0:04:33 | 0:04:35 | |
"Oh, my God! He's won gold!" | 0:04:35 | 0:04:36 | |
And my brother was like, "Oh, my God, Katie. Get a grip." | 0:04:36 | 0:04:39 | |
Ben was at the height of his career | 0:04:42 | 0:04:44 | |
and when London was lined up to host the 2012 Olympic Games, | 0:04:44 | 0:04:47 | |
he couldn't wait to be part of it. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:49 | |
But his plans were blown out of the water | 0:04:49 | 0:04:51 | |
and a crippling knee injury destroyed his career. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:54 | |
A couple of months later, | 0:04:57 | 0:04:58 | |
they reconstructed the inside of my knee, | 0:04:58 | 0:05:01 | |
which resulted in about a year's rehabilitation. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:03 | |
The day I retired was actually the qualifications | 0:05:05 | 0:05:08 | |
for the London Olympic diving team. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:11 | |
It was literally he went from having this amazing career | 0:05:14 | 0:05:17 | |
that he had a passion for to it being gone. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:20 | |
With his dream dashed, three years later, | 0:05:21 | 0:05:24 | |
Ben's chasing a new one - moving to Australia, | 0:05:24 | 0:05:27 | |
a country he first fell for | 0:05:27 | 0:05:29 | |
while competing in the 2006 Commonwealth Games. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:33 | |
Within a week, I was like, "Oh, this is the life. This is brilliant." | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
He's always raved about how much he enjoyed it. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:38 | |
Everything about it, he just seemed to love | 0:05:38 | 0:05:40 | |
and he has never really stopped talking about it since. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:44 | |
Ben believes Australia's the place to satisfy his thirst for adventure. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:49 | |
I do like to be active. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:50 | |
Out in Australia, there's surfing, windsurfing, | 0:05:50 | 0:05:53 | |
lots of water sport activities. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:55 | |
Along with that, there's a lot of adrenaline in sports. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:57 | |
I think there's more things in Australia that appeal to me | 0:05:58 | 0:06:02 | |
that I could be doing | 0:06:02 | 0:06:03 | |
that I just don't have an opportunity to do here. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:06 | |
But Katie's not convinced. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:09 | |
Having grown up in Africa, she's moved continents once before | 0:06:09 | 0:06:12 | |
and the experience has left a scar. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:14 | |
It was very difficult and it was very hard to fit in | 0:06:16 | 0:06:19 | |
because I got picked on for being different, I think. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:22 | |
And that's made me very wary about getting up and leaving again | 0:06:22 | 0:06:25 | |
because it's taken me a long time | 0:06:25 | 0:06:27 | |
to have the network of friends that I've got. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:30 | |
Katie's worked incredibly hard to build her career as a scientist. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:34 | |
Also running a small business | 0:06:34 | 0:06:36 | |
and with an offer to do a law conversion degree, | 0:06:36 | 0:06:39 | |
she's got a lot to give up. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:40 | |
I've got a stable job, we've got a house, | 0:06:43 | 0:06:45 | |
we've got friends, we've got a good network, | 0:06:45 | 0:06:48 | |
so for me to kind of have the same enthusiasm as Ben is difficult | 0:06:48 | 0:06:52 | |
because I've got a lot more to lose than he does. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:56 | |
Katie's job could be the ticket to a visa for Australia, | 0:06:56 | 0:06:59 | |
but, as the main breadwinner, | 0:06:59 | 0:07:01 | |
she's cautious about risking financial stability. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:04 | |
At the moment, I'm supporting myself and Ben | 0:07:04 | 0:07:07 | |
and to be over in Australia, to not be able to do that, | 0:07:07 | 0:07:10 | |
would be far too difficult for me. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:13 | |
Added to that, there's the emotional cost of leaving her family behind. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:18 | |
We're all very, very close. My brother's, like, my best friend. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:22 | |
-We would do anything for each other. -Mm-hm. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:24 | |
My dad was diagnosed with emphysema, | 0:07:24 | 0:07:27 | |
-so I think flying halfway round the world... -I don't think... | 0:07:27 | 0:07:30 | |
..would be too much of a strain for my dad, | 0:07:30 | 0:07:32 | |
so that will be something I probably find very difficult. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:36 | |
With one dream already shattered, | 0:07:36 | 0:07:38 | |
Ben's desperate for Katie to buy into his vision of the couple's future, | 0:07:38 | 0:07:42 | |
but persuading her could be his toughest challenge yet. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:46 | |
There is that conflict. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:48 | |
I do think she'll appreciate it | 0:07:48 | 0:07:50 | |
and enjoy that kind of lifestyle out there. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:53 | |
In a way, I don't know if Ben realises | 0:07:53 | 0:07:55 | |
what a big decision it is. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:57 | |
I would have to be 100% sure that it would work for us | 0:07:57 | 0:08:00 | |
before I could make a final decision. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:02 | |
For their trial week down under, the couple are visiting Brisbane, | 0:08:08 | 0:08:12 | |
Australia's third most populated city. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:14 | |
Their temporary base is a luxury apartment in Toowong | 0:08:16 | 0:08:19 | |
on the fringe of the city centre. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:21 | |
It's Katie's first taste of Aussie living. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:23 | |
-Oh, this looks nice. -That's all right, isn't it? | 0:08:27 | 0:08:30 | |
The living space is on the petite side, | 0:08:30 | 0:08:32 | |
but Ben's quick to find a selling point. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:34 | |
See, that's what we're missing at our place. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:37 | |
Yeah, OK, I get the point. | 0:08:37 | 0:08:38 | |
-Yeah, it's an awesome spot, isn't it? -Yeah. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:42 | |
See, this feels like I'm in open countryside, even though I'm not. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:46 | |
And I've got a city and everything I need straight around me. Perfect. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:50 | |
And the pitch continues inside. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:53 | |
There's not much footage space, is there, compared to our house? | 0:08:53 | 0:08:56 | |
But it's nice. | 0:08:56 | 0:08:57 | |
It doesn't take long to check the place out | 0:09:00 | 0:09:02 | |
and overall, both Ben and Katie seem happy. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:05 | |
I'd ideally like a three-bedroom, but the actual flat, | 0:09:06 | 0:09:11 | |
-God, I've seen much worse. -The location... | 0:09:11 | 0:09:13 | |
-I've seen much worse flats. -Yeah, yeah. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:15 | |
With that view, I don't think you can really go wrong, can you? | 0:09:15 | 0:09:18 | |
But it's not long before Katie starts to think about | 0:09:18 | 0:09:21 | |
what she's left at home. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:22 | |
Moving to Australia has a risk | 0:09:23 | 0:09:25 | |
of not finding a career that will support us | 0:09:25 | 0:09:29 | |
or be a stable job for me. | 0:09:29 | 0:09:31 | |
Ben, meanwhile, has his own concerns. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:34 | |
I have got high expectations | 0:09:34 | 0:09:35 | |
and I think I'll be disappointed if it does let me down. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:39 | |
Assuming the country is everything he remembers, | 0:09:39 | 0:09:42 | |
Ben knows he's still got a battle on his hands | 0:09:42 | 0:09:45 | |
to persuade Katie to make the move. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:47 | |
I think the fight will be whether it's just viable | 0:09:47 | 0:09:51 | |
with missing family and work-wise. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:55 | |
As long as that's taken care of, | 0:09:55 | 0:09:57 | |
I think the actual country and the people and the lifestyle | 0:09:57 | 0:09:59 | |
will be an easy decision. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:01 | |
It is absolutely beautiful and it's really sunny | 0:10:01 | 0:10:04 | |
and so far, there's nothing to complain about, | 0:10:04 | 0:10:06 | |
but like I said, there's a lot of boxes to be ticked. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:10 | |
Back in the UK, home for Ben and Katie | 0:10:16 | 0:10:19 | |
is a two-bedroom terraced house in Sutton-in-Ashfield. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:22 | |
-We paid 104,000 for the house. -Yeah. -And we bought it as a new-build, | 0:10:22 | 0:10:28 | |
-so we were the first people to be in it. -Yeah. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:30 | |
But while Ben could pack up and leave it quite easily, | 0:10:30 | 0:10:33 | |
Katie would find it harder to move on. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:36 | |
We've worked hard, put a lot of personal time into it | 0:10:36 | 0:10:40 | |
and it is how we want it, | 0:10:40 | 0:10:41 | |
so, for me, it would be difficult to give it up. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:44 | |
If Ben can persuade Katie to buy into his Australian dream, | 0:10:44 | 0:10:48 | |
their property budget for a new home down under is around £110,000. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:53 | |
I would quite like something similar to what we've got. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:55 | |
You know, a bit of space, garden, | 0:10:55 | 0:10:58 | |
in a nice area where we could feel comfortable and... | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
-Something with a... -Socialising. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:03 | |
I mean, my goal would be to have something like a three-bedroom house | 0:11:03 | 0:11:06 | |
big enough for a small family, a garage, a big kitchen. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:09 | |
We wouldn't be able to get that at the start. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:10 | |
That'd be the end goal. That's what I'd love. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:12 | |
To find out what kind of house their money could buy in Australia, | 0:11:15 | 0:11:19 | |
today, we'll show Ben and Katie | 0:11:19 | 0:11:21 | |
three properties - two on budget | 0:11:21 | 0:11:23 | |
and a third which could be their dream home. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:26 | |
After they've seen each one, we'll reveal how much it would cost. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:30 | |
First stop is Greenslopes, an inner-city suburb | 0:11:30 | 0:11:33 | |
three miles south of central Brisbane. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:36 | |
Popular with young professionals, | 0:11:36 | 0:11:37 | |
it should be somewhere the Swains could blend in, | 0:11:37 | 0:11:40 | |
but will this one-bedroom apartment measure up? | 0:11:40 | 0:11:42 | |
In we go. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:47 | |
-So, this is it. -This is nice. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:52 | |
-It's quite small. -Yeah. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:54 | |
It is rather compact. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:56 | |
-Is that the... -Bathroom? -..bathroom right next to the front door? | 0:11:56 | 0:12:01 | |
That's a bit unusual, but it's still fit for purpose. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:04 | |
It's a nice bathroom, though, isn't it? | 0:12:06 | 0:12:08 | |
Smaller than our bathroom, but nicer than our bathroom. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:10 | |
-Yeah, but there's no bath. -There is no bath. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:12 | |
-THEY LAUGH -I don't use the bath anyway. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:15 | |
No, but I like a bath. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:16 | |
Katie's not convinced | 0:12:17 | 0:12:19 | |
and Ben soon notices something's amiss in the living room. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:22 | |
There is no... | 0:12:22 | 0:12:23 | |
..TV, but I would... | 0:12:24 | 0:12:25 | |
No, but you wouldn't want to be staring at yourself | 0:12:25 | 0:12:28 | |
on the sofa, would you, really? | 0:12:28 | 0:12:29 | |
The nice thing is, you're straight out onto the patio | 0:12:31 | 0:12:33 | |
and they've got the weather to be able to do that. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:36 | |
It might be bathed in sunshine, | 0:12:36 | 0:12:38 | |
but the garden isn't exactly spacious. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:40 | |
-It's a lot smaller than ours at home. -A lot smaller. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:43 | |
Well, you've got enough space to have a barbecue. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:46 | |
Ben's determined to push the positive, | 0:12:46 | 0:12:48 | |
but picking up on its proximity to neighbours, | 0:12:48 | 0:12:51 | |
even he has to admit it's not quite perfect. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:54 | |
That's the thing that I'm not so keen on is having... | 0:12:54 | 0:12:57 | |
-People above? -..your neighbours directly above your head. | 0:12:57 | 0:13:00 | |
As in, I could hold their feet if I needed to. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:02 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:13:02 | 0:13:04 | |
Back inside, the kitchen's a bit cramped. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:06 | |
I love cooking. I love moving around the kitchen. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:11 | |
It is very small. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:14 | |
And the bedroom isn't very big either. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:18 | |
-I mean, it works. There's only two of us, isn't there? -Mm. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:21 | |
It's only one bed. There's two of us. It's done... | 0:13:21 | 0:13:24 | |
Like, there's no doubt about it that it's done nicely. It's enough. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:28 | |
It's functional. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:29 | |
Ben's not going to be beaten, | 0:13:30 | 0:13:32 | |
but it'll take more than functional to win Katie over. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:35 | |
With £110,000 to spend, it's time to find out | 0:13:35 | 0:13:39 | |
if this house is somewhere the Swains could afford to call home. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:43 | |
That's way more than I thought it was going to be for this. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:52 | |
Yeah, me too. It's quite expensive | 0:13:52 | 0:13:55 | |
-compared to what I thought it was going to be. -Yeah. | 0:13:55 | 0:13:57 | |
But I was kind of thinking that we were going to get less space, | 0:13:57 | 0:14:00 | |
-but I didn't think it was going to be for more money. -No, I didn't. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:03 | |
I thought, for the same money, we'd probably get less space. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:06 | |
I didn't think it would cost us more. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:07 | |
I don't think we'd be able to afford that anyway. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:10 | |
-That does shock me. -Yeah, it shocks me a little bit. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:12 | |
That really does shock me. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:13 | |
Yeah, I think we've got some more to see. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:16 | |
-But, at the minute, we wouldn't be able to afford to move here. -No. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:20 | |
The realisation they'd be paying more for less has been an eye-opener | 0:14:20 | 0:14:24 | |
and with Katie already questioning the affordability of a move, | 0:14:24 | 0:14:28 | |
Ben needs the next property to be much more promising. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:31 | |
The couple head 40 minutes west of Brisbane to the city of Ipswich. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:36 | |
Offering a cosmopolitan mix of shops and restaurants, | 0:14:36 | 0:14:39 | |
the area has plenty of appeal | 0:14:39 | 0:14:41 | |
and being further out could mean better value for money. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:44 | |
But will this two-bedroom house just off a main road | 0:14:44 | 0:14:47 | |
be somewhere Katie could call home? | 0:14:47 | 0:14:49 | |
-This is the... -Spare bedroom. -..spare bedroom. | 0:14:52 | 0:14:57 | |
-That's quite cute. -Yeah, it's nice. -Little window colours. | 0:14:57 | 0:14:59 | |
There's certainly more space | 0:14:59 | 0:15:01 | |
and the master bedroom's a hit with Ben. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:03 | |
I could see myself sleeping and living here. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:06 | |
But the big question is can Katie? | 0:15:06 | 0:15:09 | |
-Yeah, it depends on how noisy the main road is, though. -Yeah. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:14 | |
Hmm. Next up, the bathroom. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:17 | |
This is nice. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:18 | |
-It looks like a holiday theme, doesn't it? -A holiday theme? -Yeah. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:22 | |
-What do you mean? -It's got stars and shells and stuff all round it. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:25 | |
-I quite like it. -THEY LAUGH | 0:15:25 | 0:15:27 | |
OK, moving on, the open-plan living area is a hit | 0:15:27 | 0:15:31 | |
with both Ben and Katie. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:33 | |
-Wow. -This is cool. -This is better, isn't it? -Yeah. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:37 | |
-It's massive. -It is really big. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:39 | |
The modern interiors are winning Katie round. | 0:15:40 | 0:15:43 | |
-It's really nice. -And this... -I'd be happy living here. -Yeah. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:47 | |
That's a result. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:49 | |
When Ben spots the spacious kitchen, he's happy too. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:53 | |
-Finally, a big kitchen. This is... -This is really nice. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:57 | |
-I like the colour of it. -Yeah. | 0:15:57 | 0:15:59 | |
Easily double the size of mine | 0:15:59 | 0:16:00 | |
and it's all nice and open-plan, which is quite nice. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:03 | |
Yeah, I really, really like this. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:05 | |
Outdoors is much more spacious than the last property. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:09 | |
-Wow. This is amazing. -Wow. -Garden's massive. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:13 | |
-That's bigger than our whole entire property to just the garden. -Yeah. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:17 | |
You've got so much room to do all sorts of stuff. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:19 | |
You could have decking, barbecue area, a patio. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:21 | |
I could do my patio again. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:23 | |
Ben could be getting carried away, | 0:16:24 | 0:16:26 | |
but Katie doesn't share his excitement. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:28 | |
-I'm not sure... -Ideal. -..it would be fun maintaining this, though. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:32 | |
We'd have to do something with it. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:33 | |
She's playing it cool, | 0:16:35 | 0:16:36 | |
but this house has been more of a hit than the last one. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:39 | |
But with £110,000 to spend, will it be within reach? | 0:16:39 | 0:16:43 | |
How much do you think this is worth? | 0:16:49 | 0:16:51 | |
In pounds, I'd probably say between 150 and 200,000, maybe. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:55 | |
I was thinking along the lines of £200,000. | 0:16:55 | 0:16:57 | |
I hope this is in our budget cos I'd love to be able to afford it. | 0:16:57 | 0:17:00 | |
I'd love to be able to afford it too. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:01 | |
I can't see it being, but fingers crossed. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:04 | |
No way. I think that's incredible for this. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:13 | |
It's £20,000 over budget, but Ben doesn't seem daunted. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:17 | |
That fills me with hope. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:19 | |
But it's still expensive and it's still out of our budget. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:24 | |
Depending on their earnings down under, | 0:17:24 | 0:17:26 | |
this home could still be within reach, | 0:17:26 | 0:17:28 | |
though the cost of Brisbane housing is seeing Katie struggle. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:32 | |
Hopefully, the final property of the day will get her more excited. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:42 | |
Katie's keen to live somewhere that lends itself to socialising, | 0:17:42 | 0:17:45 | |
so we found what could be the couple's dream space - | 0:17:45 | 0:17:48 | |
smack bang in the centre of Brisbane. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:51 | |
Will it be a winner? | 0:17:52 | 0:17:53 | |
-Ooh, it's cute. -This is different, isn't it? | 0:17:59 | 0:18:03 | |
-Is that good or bad, Ben? -I really like it. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
By far, it's the nicest decorated than anything we've seen. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:10 | |
It also offers the open-plan layout the couple like, | 0:18:10 | 0:18:13 | |
but once more, it's not big on space. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:16 | |
-The living area is... -It's quite... -..again, quite small, isn't it? | 0:18:16 | 0:18:19 | |
-Yeah, it's quite small. -But at least it's... | 0:18:19 | 0:18:21 | |
It looks like it's had quite a lot of work done to it, though. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:24 | |
Trying to stay positive, | 0:18:24 | 0:18:26 | |
Ben points out it could be a good starting point for the pair. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:29 | |
I think I'd... If I had to, | 0:18:30 | 0:18:32 | |
I'd rent something like this for a time to live in. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:35 | |
Rather than investing. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:37 | |
Yeah, and then use this as somewhere really, really nice | 0:18:37 | 0:18:40 | |
-to look for somewhere to buy. -Yeah. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:44 | |
Katie not sounding sold, Ben moves his sales pitch outside. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:49 | |
-HE LAUGHS -So, there you go. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:51 | |
You have got a bit of garden. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:52 | |
You've got the grass out here and a barbecue, | 0:18:52 | 0:18:54 | |
which is typical Australian. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:56 | |
You wouldn't be in Australia without a barbecue, so that's nice. | 0:18:56 | 0:18:59 | |
He's trying hard, but Katie's proving a tough audience. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:03 | |
It's quite a nice view, | 0:19:05 | 0:19:06 | |
but I'd be worried about the shops and... | 0:19:06 | 0:19:09 | |
-Everything down there. -..restaurants downstairs. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:11 | |
And indoors, Ben reluctantly agrees the bathroom could be an issue too. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:16 | |
You'll fit in the bath, but I'm not sure... | 0:19:16 | 0:19:19 | |
-Am I too tall? -Don't leave dirty footprints. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:22 | |
-Yeah, see, that's... -HE LAUGHS | 0:19:22 | 0:19:25 | |
-Maybe a little bit of an issue. -Yeah. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:28 | |
-Oh, you've left muddy footprints. -Oh, sorry. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:30 | |
You're going to have to clean that before we leave. | 0:19:30 | 0:19:32 | |
Before he cleans up, the couple check out the bedroom. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:35 | |
-That's nice. -This is cute. I like this. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:41 | |
They've got an in-built wardrobe, which is good. | 0:19:41 | 0:19:44 | |
They've used the space effectively. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:45 | |
Hopefully, with having all the bars and pubs and restaurants, | 0:19:45 | 0:19:49 | |
if these windows are nice and sealed, | 0:19:49 | 0:19:51 | |
sleeping wouldn't be an issue. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:52 | |
I don't think I'm sold on that theory. Sorry. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:55 | |
He's tried his hardest, | 0:19:57 | 0:19:59 | |
but it doesn't look like this is the house | 0:19:59 | 0:20:01 | |
to convince Katie to make the movie either. | 0:20:01 | 0:20:03 | |
With £110,000 to spend, | 0:20:03 | 0:20:06 | |
would their budget even extend to somewhere like this? | 0:20:06 | 0:20:09 | |
-Shall we see how much it's worth? -Go on, then. -Are you ready? -Yeah. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:13 | |
-Ah. That's quite expensive. -HE EXHALES | 0:20:16 | 0:20:20 | |
It... Yeah, that's way out of our budget for that and... | 0:20:20 | 0:20:25 | |
-HE EXHALES -In a way, I kind of | 0:20:25 | 0:20:27 | |
almost expected it to be that expensive | 0:20:27 | 0:20:29 | |
with how close it is to the centre of Brisbane. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:32 | |
But, still, for this size... | 0:20:32 | 0:20:34 | |
-For that amount of money, I'd want a lot more. -Yeah. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:37 | |
-That's ridiculously expensive. -Yeah. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:39 | |
The reality of Brisbane property prices | 0:20:39 | 0:20:42 | |
has provided plenty of food for thought | 0:20:42 | 0:20:44 | |
and confirmed Ben's fear | 0:20:44 | 0:20:46 | |
that the three-bedroom house with a garage is a long way off. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:49 | |
Property one was too small in every way | 0:20:51 | 0:20:53 | |
apart from the asking price. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:56 | |
Property two was more spacious and closer to their budget, | 0:20:56 | 0:21:00 | |
but it still left Katie unimpressed. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:02 | |
And despite a social scene | 0:21:03 | 0:21:05 | |
on the doorstep, | 0:21:05 | 0:21:06 | |
the final property of the day left Katie cold. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:09 | |
So, how will discovering they might struggle on their budget | 0:21:10 | 0:21:14 | |
affect Ben and Katie's choice | 0:21:14 | 0:21:15 | |
when it comes to choosing between homes in Australia and the UK? | 0:21:15 | 0:21:20 | |
-They've all been quite different, haven't they? -Yeah. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:22 | |
I think it's given an idea of what is out there | 0:21:22 | 0:21:25 | |
and it's kind of given an idea of what I would like | 0:21:25 | 0:21:28 | |
-and the prices to expect. -Yeah. I think, um... | 0:21:28 | 0:21:32 | |
Well, I don't know. It's quite a difficult decision for me. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:36 | |
Time to vote. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:38 | |
-Have you gone for GB? -Yeah. -HE LAUGHS | 0:21:50 | 0:21:53 | |
-I thought you were going to go for Australia. -Really? -Yeah. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:56 | |
I don't know. I think it's just the fact | 0:21:56 | 0:21:58 | |
that it's quite unpredictable about what we could afford. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:01 | |
I think, from what I've seen today, I can see potential | 0:22:01 | 0:22:05 | |
and I think, with enough research, we can actually find something | 0:22:05 | 0:22:08 | |
that will look really quite good, be quite spacious, | 0:22:08 | 0:22:11 | |
that would give us an opportunity to develop. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:14 | |
That's what I liked about it. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:15 | |
I just think there was more negatives to positives. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:18 | |
-I think the one house, I would buy in a second... -Yeah. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:21 | |
..whereas the other two kind of made me a bit more reserved | 0:22:21 | 0:22:24 | |
-on my decision. -Yeah. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:25 | |
With Katie disheartened by property prices, | 0:22:30 | 0:22:33 | |
Ben's chances of convincing her to move | 0:22:33 | 0:22:35 | |
could already be in deep water. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:37 | |
Finding jobs that could keep them financially afloat | 0:22:37 | 0:22:40 | |
will be crucial if he's to keep his dream alive. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:43 | |
In the UK, former athlete Ben works as a diving coach | 0:22:45 | 0:22:49 | |
and a sports massage therapist. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:52 | |
They're very different. | 0:22:52 | 0:22:53 | |
It's nice to have both to give me some change. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:55 | |
Having achieved the career of her dreams, | 0:22:56 | 0:22:58 | |
Katie works full-time as an analytical scientist | 0:22:58 | 0:23:01 | |
in a honey testing lab | 0:23:01 | 0:23:03 | |
and runs her own business hosting science parties for children. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:07 | |
It's really fascinating. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:10 | |
There are so many different areas, different aspects you can get into. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:14 | |
There's research. There's working in commercial labs. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
If they do make the move, Ben hopes to retrain as a paramedic | 0:23:17 | 0:23:21 | |
and although it would affect his short-term earning potential, | 0:23:21 | 0:23:24 | |
he's confident it's a risk worth taking. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:27 | |
Hopefully, from sort of the things that I understand, | 0:23:27 | 0:23:30 | |
it can pay off in later years | 0:23:30 | 0:23:32 | |
and hopefully, put us in a better position than now. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:34 | |
But as the main breadwinner, | 0:23:36 | 0:23:37 | |
convincing Katie to walk away from the job she loves won't be easy. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:41 | |
It'd be very difficult for me | 0:23:41 | 0:23:43 | |
because I'm leaving the stable job and that's a massive risk for me | 0:23:43 | 0:23:46 | |
and I've worked hard to be in the position that I'm in. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:48 | |
Ben's hopes for a new life down under | 0:23:51 | 0:23:53 | |
could live or die on what the couple discover | 0:23:53 | 0:23:55 | |
in their day exploring work options. | 0:23:55 | 0:23:58 | |
First up, Katie heads off to meet David Waltisbuhl | 0:24:00 | 0:24:03 | |
from Queensland's Department of Agriculture and Fisheries. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:06 | |
Now we'll come into the main lab area. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:13 | |
How big is the lab? | 0:24:13 | 0:24:14 | |
Like, do you have quite a lot of analysts or...? | 0:24:14 | 0:24:16 | |
We've got seven analysts working in our laboratory. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:20 | |
After a quick tour, Katie is keen to get down to business. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:23 | |
If I was to come over to Australia, | 0:24:23 | 0:24:25 | |
what would my kind of job prospects be to work for a company like this? | 0:24:25 | 0:24:30 | |
I would be looking to recruit somebody | 0:24:30 | 0:24:32 | |
-only if one of the existing staff left. -OK. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:35 | |
Probably every three or four years we might have a staff change. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:40 | |
Opportunities at this lab may be thin on the ground, | 0:24:40 | 0:24:43 | |
but David is quick to assure her work could be easier to find elsewhere. | 0:24:43 | 0:24:48 | |
Certainly in some bigger laboratories around | 0:24:48 | 0:24:50 | |
that do similar work to ours. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:51 | |
-OK. -So they would be hiring more staff. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:53 | |
Most of the stuff they hire are at the technician level. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:57 | |
-I think you'd be looking more for a professional position. -OK. | 0:24:57 | 0:25:00 | |
That's more reassuring. | 0:25:00 | 0:25:03 | |
Meanwhile, Ben meets Sean Mutchmor | 0:25:03 | 0:25:05 | |
at the Queensland Ambulance emergency complex | 0:25:05 | 0:25:07 | |
to find out if his ideal career is a real option. | 0:25:07 | 0:25:10 | |
These ones here have everything from these fast response units | 0:25:11 | 0:25:14 | |
for our critical care paramedics. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:16 | |
It's an impressive set-up and Ben is keen to hear | 0:25:17 | 0:25:20 | |
how he can become part of it. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:22 | |
So, I've had a look at what I need to do to become | 0:25:22 | 0:25:24 | |
a paramedic in the UK. | 0:25:24 | 0:25:26 | |
What qualifications could I get in the UK, | 0:25:26 | 0:25:29 | |
or what would I need here to become a paramedic? | 0:25:29 | 0:25:31 | |
Well, there's two options. | 0:25:31 | 0:25:33 | |
You can get credentials in the UK and then come over. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:36 | |
We have a process here where we recognise, you know, prior learning | 0:25:36 | 0:25:39 | |
-and equivalent qualifications from other countries and states. -OK. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:42 | |
You can go through a process that way. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:44 | |
Or secondarily, you can come to Australia | 0:25:44 | 0:25:46 | |
-and do your undergraduate education here. -OK. | 0:25:46 | 0:25:49 | |
Currently, our baseline entry programme is a three-year | 0:25:49 | 0:25:52 | |
-bachelor's degree for the advanced care paramedic II level. -Yep. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:54 | |
Then subsequent to that, | 0:25:54 | 0:25:56 | |
if you want to go on to become a critical care paramedic, | 0:25:56 | 0:25:58 | |
it's either a graduate diploma or a master's degree. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:00 | |
That doesn't sound too dissimilar. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:03 | |
Ben would hope to study in Australia. But funding could be a problem. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:07 | |
The NHS for paramedics at university will pay for the course. | 0:26:07 | 0:26:12 | |
Is that similar out here? | 0:26:12 | 0:26:13 | |
Realistically, | 0:26:13 | 0:26:15 | |
your undergraduate programme is only funded by yourself. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:17 | |
Of course, here in Australia, | 0:26:17 | 0:26:18 | |
there's a number of government-funded systems that | 0:26:18 | 0:26:21 | |
help you pay for that, but as far as the ambulance service goes, no. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:24 | |
It's not the answer Ben wanted. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:27 | |
But Sean does add that he could qualify for a study grant. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:30 | |
Even so, the reality is | 0:26:30 | 0:26:32 | |
studying full-time would put more financial pressure on Katie. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:36 | |
So, assuming she could find a job, the big question is, | 0:26:36 | 0:26:39 | |
how much would it pay? | 0:26:39 | 0:26:41 | |
The salary we'd be looking at paying | 0:26:41 | 0:26:44 | |
someone of your qualifications would be around 75,000-80,000 a year. | 0:26:44 | 0:26:50 | |
Almost £38,000 is nearly double what Katie earns in the UK. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:57 | |
All in all, it's been a positive meeting. | 0:26:57 | 0:27:00 | |
Knowing that I wouldn't come in at a bottom level is really good. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:07 | |
And the salary would be amazing cos it's a lot higher | 0:27:07 | 0:27:10 | |
than what the UK offer. | 0:27:10 | 0:27:12 | |
Ben's chances of persuading Katie to make the move could be on the up, | 0:27:13 | 0:27:17 | |
especially if, once qualified, his salary improves too. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:21 | |
So, what's the actual pay like then? | 0:27:22 | 0:27:25 | |
Like I said, you know, there's a number of options. | 0:27:25 | 0:27:27 | |
But, baseline, say you're going to work in Brisbane, | 0:27:27 | 0:27:30 | |
an average paramedic working on an ambulance like this, | 0:27:30 | 0:27:32 | |
your baseline page might be, say, around 65,000. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:35 | |
That's a starting salary of nearly £33,000 before shift rates | 0:27:35 | 0:27:39 | |
and other allowances are added on. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:42 | |
It's been a pretty good day for the Swains at work, but how will | 0:27:42 | 0:27:45 | |
the findings impact on their decision between work in Australia and the UK? | 0:27:45 | 0:27:49 | |
-What did you go for? -Australia! -Australia! -Yay! | 0:28:02 | 0:28:05 | |
-Why did you go for Australia? -Erm... | 0:28:05 | 0:28:07 | |
I really like the people I've met out here. | 0:28:07 | 0:28:09 | |
It actually sounds really exciting. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:11 | |
-Cool. -You? | 0:28:11 | 0:28:13 | |
I think knowing that I can transfer my skills over here and do | 0:28:13 | 0:28:16 | |
what I do back home. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:18 | |
And also there are jobs out here that I'd be able do. | 0:28:18 | 0:28:22 | |
And I think the pay would be more beneficial, | 0:28:22 | 0:28:25 | |
as it's a lot more than what the UK offer. | 0:28:25 | 0:28:27 | |
-Excellent. -Cool. -So, we are in agreement. -Woohoo! | 0:28:27 | 0:28:30 | |
Let's go. | 0:28:30 | 0:28:31 | |
A day discovering work opportunities in Brisbane | 0:28:37 | 0:28:40 | |
may have put Katie's career concerns to rest. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:43 | |
Her first vote for Australia | 0:28:43 | 0:28:45 | |
could mean the tide's beginning to turn in Ben's favour. | 0:28:45 | 0:28:49 | |
With Katie a fitness fanatic, | 0:28:49 | 0:28:51 | |
will a day experiencing the active outdoor lifestyle | 0:28:51 | 0:28:54 | |
Australia is famed for prove another winner? | 0:28:54 | 0:28:57 | |
Making the most of Brisbane's warm climate, | 0:29:00 | 0:29:02 | |
the couple head for the Gold Coast | 0:29:02 | 0:29:04 | |
to try their hand at paddleboarding - | 0:29:04 | 0:29:06 | |
one of the country's most popular pastimes. | 0:29:06 | 0:29:09 | |
It's super easy to do. Super fun. | 0:29:09 | 0:29:11 | |
So, we're going to test your balance out and they're going to get | 0:29:11 | 0:29:13 | |
you to stand up on the board, use the paddle and paddle around. | 0:29:13 | 0:29:16 | |
Their instructor is Australian paddleboarding champion | 0:29:16 | 0:29:19 | |
Angela Jackson. | 0:29:19 | 0:29:21 | |
No pressure, we've got a world champion teaching us. | 0:29:21 | 0:29:24 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:29:24 | 0:29:26 | |
Ben's competitive spirit rises to the surface | 0:29:28 | 0:29:31 | |
and after a quick lesson, they are ready to get going. | 0:29:31 | 0:29:34 | |
Normally at home in the water, Ben is soon making a splash. | 0:29:38 | 0:29:41 | |
Abandoning their boards, the pair head for an alfresco lunch | 0:29:59 | 0:30:02 | |
at the nearby Currumbin estuary, | 0:30:02 | 0:30:04 | |
where the scenery soon works its magic on Katie. | 0:30:04 | 0:30:07 | |
It's beautiful. Can't beat the sunshine. Got the water. | 0:30:08 | 0:30:13 | |
-I'm loving it here. -Yeah, it's really nice. It's really pretty. | 0:30:13 | 0:30:16 | |
And I'd really like to try that someday. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:18 | |
Kitesurfing. | 0:30:18 | 0:30:21 | |
Probably better at that than what you were this morning. | 0:30:21 | 0:30:23 | |
I think I'd be awesome at that. | 0:30:23 | 0:30:25 | |
It's exactly the kind of life Ben dreams of. | 0:30:27 | 0:30:30 | |
Keen to gauge his chances of securing it, | 0:30:30 | 0:30:33 | |
he susses out Katie's feelings about being so far from home. | 0:30:33 | 0:30:36 | |
-Do you miss your family? -Eh... | 0:30:36 | 0:30:39 | |
I don't really feel like I'm on the other side of the world from them. | 0:30:39 | 0:30:42 | |
I think if I wanted to go and visit, I think it'd be a different story | 0:30:42 | 0:30:45 | |
cos obviously it's not just a drive up the road, | 0:30:45 | 0:30:48 | |
it's fly miles. | 0:30:48 | 0:30:50 | |
Katie may not be homesick yet, | 0:30:50 | 0:30:53 | |
but that could be a real issue if she was here for the long haul. | 0:30:53 | 0:30:57 | |
The couple round of their day with a dip | 0:30:57 | 0:30:59 | |
in Currumbin's natural rock pools. | 0:30:59 | 0:31:02 | |
The day's definitely lived up to Ben's expectations. | 0:31:02 | 0:31:05 | |
I've had a really exciting day today. | 0:31:06 | 0:31:08 | |
I've seen a lot of Australia, the kind of Australia that I remember | 0:31:08 | 0:31:12 | |
and the reason why I thought I'd quite like to emigrate out here. | 0:31:12 | 0:31:15 | |
And after her day in the sunshine, | 0:31:16 | 0:31:19 | |
the benefits of Aussie living could be dawning on Katie too. | 0:31:19 | 0:31:22 | |
It's shown me that there's lots to do. | 0:31:22 | 0:31:26 | |
I don't think I'll ever get bored. | 0:31:26 | 0:31:28 | |
You can be outside all day. | 0:31:28 | 0:31:31 | |
The weather is lovely. | 0:31:31 | 0:31:33 | |
Yeah, I just think the whole vibe of it is pretty cool. | 0:31:33 | 0:31:37 | |
So will she have been convinced | 0:31:37 | 0:31:38 | |
when it comes to picking between the lifestyle in Australia and the UK? | 0:31:38 | 0:31:43 | |
-Shall we, babe? -I think so. -Let's go. | 0:31:44 | 0:31:46 | |
-What are you going for? -Australia. That was an easy one for me. -Yeah. | 0:31:52 | 0:31:55 | |
-For me too. -Was it? -Yeah. -Excellent. | 0:31:55 | 0:31:57 | |
It was really good today and I think it gave a really good | 0:31:57 | 0:32:00 | |
-view of what would be available, so... -Yeah. -Yeah, really happy. | 0:32:00 | 0:32:03 | |
Much better experience than the outdoor stuff we ever | 0:32:03 | 0:32:05 | |
-get to do in England. -Yep. Definitely. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:08 | |
-Excellent. -Cool. -Shall we go? -Let's go. | 0:32:08 | 0:32:11 | |
Australia's lifestyle may have won Katie round, | 0:32:19 | 0:32:21 | |
but Ben knows keeping her on side will be a challenge | 0:32:21 | 0:32:25 | |
if the move would leave them out of pocket. | 0:32:25 | 0:32:27 | |
If they do decide to emigrate, the couple would need to | 0:32:28 | 0:32:31 | |
sell their house in the UK to help fund the move. | 0:32:31 | 0:32:34 | |
They purchased it three years ago for around £104,000. | 0:32:34 | 0:32:38 | |
We sent round two estate agents to get up-to-date valuations. | 0:32:40 | 0:32:43 | |
First thing I noticed about this property is | 0:32:45 | 0:32:48 | |
the quality of the oak flooring. Very contemporary feel about it. | 0:32:48 | 0:32:52 | |
It's a nice, spacious lounge. | 0:32:52 | 0:32:55 | |
I'd say it's a tad dark. | 0:32:55 | 0:32:58 | |
They may need to sort of brighten it up with the light. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:02 | |
Get rid of the dark lampshade. | 0:33:02 | 0:33:03 | |
It's a nice rear enclosed garden. Ideal for some entertaining. | 0:33:05 | 0:33:09 | |
It's a good selling point of the house. | 0:33:09 | 0:33:11 | |
Snookers. | 0:33:13 | 0:33:14 | |
I'm impressed with the number of units in this kitchen. | 0:33:17 | 0:33:20 | |
There are a lot of utensils out on the benches. | 0:33:20 | 0:33:22 | |
Perhaps some of those could be put away | 0:33:22 | 0:33:24 | |
if the property were to be marketed for sale. | 0:33:24 | 0:33:27 | |
That's a fair point, but I do live in that kitchen. | 0:33:27 | 0:33:29 | |
In the current marketplace, | 0:33:29 | 0:33:31 | |
I would value this property between £105,000 | 0:33:31 | 0:33:35 | |
and £110,000. | 0:33:35 | 0:33:39 | |
For a quick sale, the property | 0:33:39 | 0:33:41 | |
could be marketed for £100,000. | 0:33:41 | 0:33:44 | |
The rental per calendar month would be £475 a month. | 0:33:44 | 0:33:51 | |
I'd recommend a current asking price between £100,000 and £105,000. | 0:33:52 | 0:33:57 | |
For a more quick sale, I'd be looking at a figure of £95,000. | 0:33:57 | 0:34:01 | |
The rental market remains very strong locally, | 0:34:01 | 0:34:04 | |
and my figure for rental purposes would be £495 per calendar month, | 0:34:04 | 0:34:09 | |
perhaps dropping to £475 if required. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:13 | |
-I thought we would have got more than what we paid. -Yeah. | 0:34:13 | 0:34:16 | |
But I think I'd prefer to rent it. | 0:34:16 | 0:34:19 | |
I would. I'd keep it anyway. | 0:34:19 | 0:34:21 | |
-I don't think I'd sell it. -Yeah. | 0:34:21 | 0:34:22 | |
With the value of their house lower than expected, | 0:34:22 | 0:34:25 | |
Ben knows what happens next could make or break his dream. | 0:34:25 | 0:34:29 | |
Anxious to keep Katie on side, the couple sit down to figure out | 0:34:29 | 0:34:33 | |
living costs in Australia, starting with their weekly food shop. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:38 | |
So, you've got eggs which are 1.6. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:42 | |
-That's 1.6. -Mixed peppers. -Yeah. | 0:34:42 | 0:34:46 | |
3.08. | 0:34:46 | 0:34:47 | |
-That's expensive. 3.08. Yeah. -Apples. -Yeah. -0.75. | 0:34:48 | 0:34:53 | |
It's not looking good so far. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:56 | |
The couple work out they would be spending over £99 on food every week. | 0:34:56 | 0:35:01 | |
That particular shop is £25 extra. | 0:35:01 | 0:35:06 | |
That's £100 more per month. | 0:35:06 | 0:35:08 | |
And they've still to examine their bigger bills. | 0:35:08 | 0:35:12 | |
Why are you stressing? | 0:35:12 | 0:35:13 | |
-HE CHUCKLES -Lots of numbers. Ready? | 0:35:13 | 0:35:16 | |
-OK. -Let's do the other load. | 0:35:16 | 0:35:17 | |
Basing their sums on the second property they viewed | 0:35:19 | 0:35:22 | |
adds an instant £270 to mortgage costs. | 0:35:22 | 0:35:25 | |
That's the biggest... I think that's the biggest expense. | 0:35:25 | 0:35:29 | |
-Electricity and water is going to be a little bit more expensive. -Yeah. | 0:35:29 | 0:35:33 | |
But then everything else works out. | 0:35:33 | 0:35:36 | |
Overall, the couple would be spending around £250 a month | 0:35:36 | 0:35:40 | |
more down under, and Ben is feeling the pressure. | 0:35:40 | 0:35:43 | |
I'm sweating doing this. | 0:35:43 | 0:35:45 | |
Salaries could help make up the shortfall, though. | 0:35:46 | 0:35:50 | |
When the couple add up Katie's increased wages down under | 0:35:50 | 0:35:53 | |
with Ben's study allowance and income from part-time sports massage, | 0:35:53 | 0:35:56 | |
the figures look more promising. | 0:35:56 | 0:35:59 | |
So, would the Swains be losing out or potentially living it up | 0:35:59 | 0:36:03 | |
if they were to go ahead with the move? | 0:36:03 | 0:36:05 | |
So, looking at these former numbers from how much we've got left | 0:36:06 | 0:36:10 | |
over at the end of the month at home, we'd be laughing in Australia. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:14 | |
We've got, instead of £100 or £200, | 0:36:14 | 0:36:16 | |
we've now got £900 to £1,000 extra to play with a month. | 0:36:16 | 0:36:19 | |
-So, that's good news for me. -LAUGHING: -Yeah. | 0:36:19 | 0:36:22 | |
Yeah, I know. | 0:36:22 | 0:36:23 | |
-That makes it... That makes me really happy. -Aw. | 0:36:23 | 0:36:27 | |
After a shaky start, | 0:36:27 | 0:36:28 | |
it's clear moving could substantially improve the Swains' bank balance. | 0:36:28 | 0:36:32 | |
So, is it a clean sweep for the country | 0:36:32 | 0:36:35 | |
when deciding between finances in Australia and the UK? | 0:36:35 | 0:36:39 | |
Yeah! Australia. | 0:36:50 | 0:36:52 | |
Why did you pick Australia? | 0:36:52 | 0:36:53 | |
Because it looks like we're going to earn more money. | 0:36:53 | 0:36:55 | |
-THEY LAUGH -Is that it? -No. | 0:36:55 | 0:36:58 | |
It looks like we'd get a better lifestyle, I think, | 0:36:58 | 0:37:00 | |
and if we can be better off, even if I decide to go to university, | 0:37:00 | 0:37:06 | |
after I'm qualified, hopefully we'd be even better off again. | 0:37:06 | 0:37:10 | |
And for you, was it an easy choice? | 0:37:10 | 0:37:11 | |
Erm, I think it just kind of gave me | 0:37:11 | 0:37:13 | |
-an idea that I wouldn't need to worry. -Yeah. | 0:37:13 | 0:37:15 | |
Whereas in the UK, I'd still feel like we worry about money | 0:37:15 | 0:37:18 | |
-quite a bit. -Yeah. -So... | 0:37:18 | 0:37:21 | |
-It's positive. -Excellent. | 0:37:21 | 0:37:23 | |
With her financial worries laid to rest, | 0:37:24 | 0:37:27 | |
Katie could be on the way to following Ben's dream. | 0:37:27 | 0:37:30 | |
But, as they sit down to watch messages from home, | 0:37:30 | 0:37:33 | |
Ben knows he could be treading water if Katie can't reconcile herself | 0:37:33 | 0:37:37 | |
with the idea of leaving close-knit family. | 0:37:37 | 0:37:40 | |
-Hey, guys. -Hey, guys. Hope you're having a great time in Australia. | 0:37:41 | 0:37:44 | |
Hi, Ben and Katie. I hope you've had a superb week in Australia. | 0:37:44 | 0:37:47 | |
Hi, Katie. Hi, Ben. How are you doing? | 0:37:47 | 0:37:50 | |
I hope everything is going well for you | 0:37:50 | 0:37:52 | |
and no doubt we'll hear from you soon. | 0:37:52 | 0:37:54 | |
They're just a really nice couple. Just get on really well. | 0:37:54 | 0:37:57 | |
Katie's a... | 0:37:57 | 0:37:59 | |
We always called her our wee little feisty Scots girl. | 0:37:59 | 0:38:02 | |
She's lovely. She's really lovely. She's gorgeous. | 0:38:03 | 0:38:05 | |
She's got a lovely sense of humour. | 0:38:05 | 0:38:07 | |
She's grown into the most amazing daughter. She means the world to me. | 0:38:07 | 0:38:11 | |
But I know she is in good hands with Ben. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:15 | |
Ben is a super guy. | 0:38:15 | 0:38:17 | |
I couldn't ask for anyone nicer to be with my daughter. | 0:38:17 | 0:38:22 | |
I don't want Ben to go, but I would be gutted | 0:38:22 | 0:38:25 | |
if Ben moved to Australia, but I can't stop him, so... | 0:38:25 | 0:38:29 | |
Yes, we are very proud of him for what he achieved, | 0:38:29 | 0:38:33 | |
but I think more than that, for who he is. | 0:38:33 | 0:38:36 | |
Yeah. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:37 | |
His personality, particularly. | 0:38:40 | 0:38:41 | |
I'll miss them very, very much. | 0:38:47 | 0:38:49 | |
As I say, my daughter is very caring and she worries an awful lot | 0:38:50 | 0:38:53 | |
about me, which is very touching, very nice. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:56 | |
I will miss her contact. | 0:38:56 | 0:38:57 | |
It is going to be very hard. | 0:38:57 | 0:39:00 | |
We'll just have to make sure her and Ben build me a granny flat. | 0:39:00 | 0:39:03 | |
It's the beginning of their life as, you know, | 0:39:05 | 0:39:08 | |
a married couple together and their future and I think it's, you know... | 0:39:08 | 0:39:13 | |
If that's what they want, then they go with our blessing, really. | 0:39:13 | 0:39:16 | |
-Absolutely. -Mm-hm. | 0:39:16 | 0:39:18 | |
We are here for you. We're only a phone call away. | 0:39:18 | 0:39:22 | |
Stay safe and we're going to miss you. | 0:39:22 | 0:39:25 | |
Katie and Ben, I am going to miss you so much. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:30 | |
But I honestly think that you and Ben will excel over there. | 0:39:30 | 0:39:35 | |
And one last thing, Katie. | 0:39:35 | 0:39:37 | |
As far as health goes, don't let it impact on your decision. | 0:39:37 | 0:39:41 | |
My health is going to be fine. | 0:39:41 | 0:39:42 | |
Whatever you do, um... | 0:39:43 | 0:39:45 | |
We'll support you. | 0:39:47 | 0:39:48 | |
SHE SNIFFS | 0:39:50 | 0:39:52 | |
Whatever you do, you know we love you. | 0:39:54 | 0:39:57 | |
Bless them. | 0:40:02 | 0:40:03 | |
I was shocked that my parents got so emotional. | 0:40:03 | 0:40:05 | |
I think the biggest thing for me, | 0:40:05 | 0:40:07 | |
I guess, watching the video was kind of my dad's health. | 0:40:07 | 0:40:10 | |
I know he says he's OK, but they're there to... | 0:40:10 | 0:40:14 | |
Well, and your family are there to support us. | 0:40:14 | 0:40:17 | |
Encouraging messages from home | 0:40:18 | 0:40:20 | |
may have lessened the emotional impact of emigrating for Katie, | 0:40:20 | 0:40:24 | |
but with the heartache it could cause his family and friends | 0:40:24 | 0:40:28 | |
now dawning on him, Ben has been shaken. | 0:40:28 | 0:40:31 | |
It's been his dream all along, | 0:40:31 | 0:40:33 | |
but will coming to terms with leaving loved ones mean | 0:40:33 | 0:40:37 | |
it's now Ben who's beginning to question the move? | 0:40:37 | 0:40:40 | |
For him, the couple's time in Brisbane has been | 0:40:42 | 0:40:44 | |
a reminder of why he's been pushing for the move. | 0:40:44 | 0:40:47 | |
Having the beach, having the scenery, going down to the creek. | 0:40:49 | 0:40:54 | |
That brought back all the memories that I had before, | 0:40:55 | 0:40:57 | |
years ago, since 2006 | 0:40:57 | 0:40:59 | |
that made me want to emigrate to Australia in the first place. | 0:40:59 | 0:41:02 | |
Katie's seen her money concerns evaporate. | 0:41:03 | 0:41:06 | |
I was really worried that financially | 0:41:07 | 0:41:09 | |
we wouldn't be able to cope in Australia, | 0:41:09 | 0:41:11 | |
and I think knowing that there's such a big difference | 0:41:11 | 0:41:14 | |
of the finances in Australia to the UK... | 0:41:14 | 0:41:18 | |
I mean, £900 difference is incredible. | 0:41:18 | 0:41:21 | |
I'll never see that in the UK, I don't think. | 0:41:21 | 0:41:24 | |
And being reassured about leaving family behind. | 0:41:24 | 0:41:27 | |
It was really nice to see how supportive my family were and | 0:41:27 | 0:41:30 | |
how my parents and my dad made sure that I wasn't worried about him. | 0:41:30 | 0:41:35 | |
But Ben may be wrestling with conflicting emotions. | 0:41:36 | 0:41:39 | |
I think I know which way I'm going to vote, | 0:41:39 | 0:41:41 | |
although after watching my friends and family video, | 0:41:41 | 0:41:44 | |
it's not going to make that as obvious for me now. | 0:41:44 | 0:41:46 | |
I was really surprised that my dad choked up like he did. | 0:41:46 | 0:41:49 | |
That really came as a shock to me to see that reaction. | 0:41:49 | 0:41:52 | |
It's such a big thing and it is like starting all over again. | 0:41:52 | 0:41:56 | |
And the worries that I do have are still there a little bit. | 0:41:56 | 0:42:01 | |
But from what I've seen this week, | 0:42:01 | 0:42:03 | |
there's more positives than negatives. | 0:42:03 | 0:42:05 | |
As the sun sets on their week, | 0:42:06 | 0:42:08 | |
has Katie seen enough to completely sign up to the move? | 0:42:08 | 0:42:12 | |
And will Ben decide leaving loved ones is a price worth paying | 0:42:12 | 0:42:15 | |
to follow his dream? | 0:42:15 | 0:42:17 | |
-Yay! You're up for Australia? -Yeah. -Are you sure? -Yeah. -Good. | 0:42:25 | 0:42:29 | |
What was the biggest thing that decided it? | 0:42:29 | 0:42:31 | |
-I think the reality check today... -Yeah? | 0:42:31 | 0:42:34 | |
-..played a massive part in my decision. -Yeah. | 0:42:34 | 0:42:36 | |
I still have a few negatives, | 0:42:36 | 0:42:40 | |
but from my experience, it's all been pretty positive. | 0:42:40 | 0:42:43 | |
I think what I've learnt is there is a lot of research we need | 0:42:43 | 0:42:46 | |
to do with cost of living | 0:42:46 | 0:42:48 | |
and what we're actually going to do out here. | 0:42:48 | 0:42:50 | |
-But I'm even more positive than I ever was. -Yeah? -Yeah. -Cool. | 0:42:50 | 0:42:53 | |
Excellent. Let's go. | 0:42:53 | 0:42:54 | |
Ben was convinced Australia would sell itself to Katie, | 0:42:56 | 0:43:00 | |
and he's been proved right. | 0:43:00 | 0:43:02 | |
With a potentially satisfying career and more money in the bank, | 0:43:02 | 0:43:05 | |
she's finally bought into his Antipodean dream. | 0:43:05 | 0:43:09 | |
We wish Ben and Katie the best of luck as they embark | 0:43:09 | 0:43:12 | |
on what should be an exciting new chapter in their lives. | 0:43:12 | 0:43:16 |