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For more than 20 years,

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you yearned after a life

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on the other side of the world

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in a country you've never visited.

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Now, you've got your best shot ever at making it happen

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if you can persuade your wife and children to take the plunge.

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Since his early 20s,

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Peter Rowsell's dreamt of living in New Zealand.

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Something's in the background of my head -

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"New Zealand is the place to be."

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There's just one problem - his family don't want to go.

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Everything would have to be 110%

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to make me want to leave everything behind in the UK.

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And when a trial week throws some spanners into the works...

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It's going to have to be a lot better than this

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to persuade me and Mum.

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..Peter's lifelong obsession could be left in tatters.

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I'm actually devastated.

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I don't think it's going to come true.

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I don't think my dream is going to come true.

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Lying in the south-west Pacific,

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New Zealand's roughly the same size as the UK,

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but is home to less people than London.

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The country offers stunning scenery and sophisticated cities -

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a draw for the 7,000 Brits who move there every year.

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For two and a half decades,

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Peter Rowsell has felt he should be living

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11,000 miles away in New Zealand.

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Finally, his dream could be tantalisingly close.

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Peter now has one week to discover

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if living on the other side of the world's as good as he believes

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and to try and persuade his reluctant family to make the move.

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The Rowsell's trial week begins with a journey lasting well over 24 hours,

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flying from London to Dubai to Melbourne,

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and then a final leg across the Tasman Sea to Auckland.

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When they finally arrive after a turbulent flight,

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they're shaken and shattered.

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The flight was... It was long.

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-It was...

-Bumpy.

-Bumpy.

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-26 hours is a long, long flight.

-DENISE CHUCKLES

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Peter's anxious about the week ahead.

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I'm feeling a bit wary of what's going to happen.

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Hopefully, everyone's still open-minded,

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and this is something we could do.

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But he'll have his work cut out with wife, Denise.

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I'm worried he's going to really like it

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and it's all what he thinks...

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He's hoped it'd be for the last 20-odd years,

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cos I don't know that I could come over here...

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..truthfully.

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Peter has just seven days to convince his family

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New Zealand is where they should spend the rest of their lives.

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Peter Rowsell lives with wife, Denise,

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14-year-old daughter, Ella, and 11-year-old son, Taron,

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in Kedington in Suffolk.

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Peter and Denise grew up in the village,

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and it's a life Denise adores.

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I'm very comfortable living in the village.

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I love it.

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Can't think of anywhere else I'd rather be.

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Their family's happy in the home they've spent years improving.

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I've spent a lot of work here,

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spent a lot of time and effort into the house.

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It means a lot, this house.

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We've sort of taken a long time,

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but we've kind of finally getting there.

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It's a beautiful house and I do love living here.

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And village life's made complete with close family on the doorstep.

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I've got my parents in the village,

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I've got my sister,

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my brother-in-law and their daughter in the village.

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Mum and Dad only up the road, my sister's up the road.

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It's the way it's always been,

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I haven't known any different, really.

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It's a peaceful existence, but one that's under threat.

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While Denise is content with calling Kedington home,

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Peter's become disillusioned.

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The character's gone. It's gone.

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Now, we're just one big housing estate.

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It's horrible. It really is horrible.

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I love Kedington. It's just nice.

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It's just not where I want to be now.

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And that means Peter's resurrected a lifelong dream

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to be on the other side of the world.

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Something's in the background of my head -

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"New Zealand is the place to be."

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I've been thinking about it for 24 years,

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ever since I'd finished my apprenticeship.

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A friend of mine went to a seminar in London to look at New Zealand

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and it was always something I wanted to do.

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Then I met Denise, and it just went on the back burner then.

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But in the years since Peter met Denise, his dream hasn't died,

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and with his disenchantment with the village,

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he's more determined than ever.

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But last three or four years, it's quite,

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"I think we should move, we should be moving, we should be moving,"

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once a month, at least.

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Sometimes it does get on your nerves.

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He probably talks about it all the time.

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Although he's never been,

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Peter firmly believes New Zealand can offer much more than home.

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I think it'll offer my family definitely more outside experiences,

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whether that'll be kayaking, sailing, swimming in fresh air.

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But Denise just can't see

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the appeal of a life on the other side of the world.

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It is Peter's dream to move to New Zealand.

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I wouldn't say it's my dream at all.

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The fact we've never been, I think it's mad.

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Leaving the village life she sees as idyllic is just a step too far.

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It is, for me, is the family.

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It would be extremely hard.

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They'd be absolutely devastated, especially my mum.

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If we only stayed back because of them,

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JUST because of them, nothing else,

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I think that's a wrong decision.

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Peter believes the chance to see the country first-hand

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could convince Denise.

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I think she still needs to...broaden her horizon

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and come out of the little bubble of village life

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and actually see what's going on in the real world.

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But it's not just her that's opposed to the dream Peter's chasing.

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Daughter, Ella, is firm in her opposition to a move.

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It's not like it's down the road,

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it's not like it's maybe, like, the country next door -

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it's across the world.

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And family, friends...

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it's all here and not anywhere else.

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The family are at loggerheads, and that's starting to take its toll.

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It has caused some tension, yeah.

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I want to go because I think I'll enjoy it a lot more over there.

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I want to stay because, like, I'll probably miss my...

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..like, family.

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At 46, Peter's approaching the cut-off age for a visa.

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The week ahead could be his last shot

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at having his 20-year-old dream come true.

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He's got a week to convince us that

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we're going to be better off out there,

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and I've got a week to convince him that he's not.

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Oh, for me, I want it 110%.

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It's just the opportunity that

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I feel that it is now or never for me.

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The Rowsells are spending their trial week in Auckland,

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New Zealand's largest city.

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Their base for the week is a secluded three-bedroom house

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in Beach Haven on Auckland's North Shore.

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It's Peter's birthday today,

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but will their temporary home be the perfect present

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and get Denise and Ella onside?

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Oh, it's beautiful.

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Peter's spellbound,

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and knowing his family's exhausted, tries to gee them up.

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So, if this is the start of the week...

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I know we're tired and all that now,

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but imagine what the next visit is going to be like, hopefully.

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Better than a swimming pool in your garden, isn't it?

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Yeah, yeah. Bigger than a swimming pool.

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But as the family make themselves at home,

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the effects of the long flight mean it's dawning on Peter

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just what an uphill struggle he'll face over the next seven days.

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It was a strange flight.

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It seemed to go on and on and on and on.

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I think it's going to be a really hard time for me

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to convince the family now.

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Denise is already contemplating just how far she is from family.

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They're always there, aren't they?

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Come to the side of the world and you're on your own.

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Peter's adamant New Zealand could give his family a better life.

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I really want them to buy in with this dream of mine,

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but I still think it's going to be a real hard slog for me to do.

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He'll have his work cut out persuading Denise.

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Everything would have to be 110%

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to make me want to leave everything behind in the UK

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and I don't think it's going to be.

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Back in the UK,

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the Rowsells have renovated a three-bedroom property

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in the Suffolk village of Kedington.

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They both love their home after years of working hard on it.

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Spent a lot of time and effort into the house.

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It's a beautiful house, and I do love living here.

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It means a lot, this house.

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We've sort of taken a long time,

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but we've kind of finally getting there and...

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-he wants to leave it.

-SHE LAUGHS

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When it comes to a home in New Zealand,

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Peter's not too ambitious.

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Something of a similar size and near a beach or near the coast.

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-We could move an hour of the road and be near the beach.

-Oh, yeah.

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But one thing they both agree on

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is the need for extra space for visitors.

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A room that we could also be... Family can come over.

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Yeah, perhaps...

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-An extra room or something.

-Perhaps a granny annexe.

-Yeah.

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To find out what kind of house they could have in New Zealand,

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today we'll show the Rowsells three properties -

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two on budget

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and a third which could be their dream home.

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Only after they've seen each one will they find out its value.

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For their first viewing, the Rowsells travel 30 minutes north

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to Hatfields Beach on Auckland's Hibiscus Coast.

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The area boasts a family-friendly beach

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and a quiet lifestyle away from the buzz of the city.

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But will this four-bedroom house persuade Denise

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Peter's lifelong dream is worth considering?

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Immediately on arrival,

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Peter's trying to sell its positive qualities...

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A nice double garage, a good double-sized garage.

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..but inside, his efforts soon fall flat with Denise and Ella.

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Big kitchen.

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-Would you say it's as big as ours?

-No.

-No?

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-TARON:

-No, it's a bit bigger.

-Do you think it's not, no?

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-No, it's not bigger.

-It's not bigger.

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Upstairs, the view from a balcony gets the thumbs up...

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You can see the sea over there, look.

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Yeah, you can see the beach.

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..but that's not enough to get Ella's approval.

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It's quite a bit smaller than our house, yeah.

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Yeah, I wouldn't say quite a bit.

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And Peter seems to be on a losing streak

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when he's forced to admit the view from a bedroom is far from ideal.

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-Your neighbours, you can see straight in.

-Straight in.

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-Don't like them looking straight in.

-No, I must admit that is...

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-Quite intimidating, isn't it?

-Yeah.

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Outside, the garden gets a...let's say lukewarm reaction.

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Can't kick a ball around in here, can you, Taron?

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I think that that bit round the side

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would be, like, big enough for me to just play with the dog,

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but I don't think it would be big enough for me

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to play, like, football.

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This house hasn't had what it takes to win anyone over,

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but is it something they could afford on their £400,000 budget?

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I think this is valued at

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about 300,000 to 350,000 British pounds.

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I'm hoping it's about £250,000

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because then...

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-..if we... We can go bigger...

-Yeah.

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-..cos I just feel this is too small.

-OK.

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Turn it over, Elle. Straight over. Just straight over.

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-That isn't...

-Ergh...

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Yeah, that's a lot more than what I thought.

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396,000 British pounds.

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That's just £4,000 under their budget.

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It's shocked me now and it worries me now.

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-Doesn't worry me.

-No.

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-DENISE LAUGHS

-It does worry me.

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Definitely food for thought.

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That does put a big demand on, obviously, now salaries.

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-Pushing, obviously...

-And the value of our house.

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And the value of our house, yeah.

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It's going to have to be a lot better than this

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to persuade me and Mum, especially.

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Affording the coastal living Peter wants

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with the space the family need could be a struggle,

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so will the next house fare any better?

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To find out, the Rowsells travel just a few minutes to Red Beach,

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an area experiencing a building boom

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driven by Aucklanders opting for

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a more relaxed lifestyle by the beach.

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Looks like a very nice cul-de-sac.

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On arrival, the neighbourhood goes down well.

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-I like the area.

-I prefer the area...

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-Bigger area, nice...

-It's spread out.

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A bit more like home.

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Inside, the kitchen gets a good reaction from Denise.

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-Ooh.

-That's a nice kitchen.

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-That's a nice open-plan.

-It's clean.

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And even Ella's impressed.

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-What do you think, Ella?

-Yeah.

-Yeah?

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Front room.

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Oh, it's a front room, separate diner.

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-It's a good idea having two doors opening out.

-Yeah, that's nice.

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The bedrooms, each with built-in wardrobes, go down well.

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It's nice looking over at the other houses.

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They're all nice, sort of more spread out.

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This house could be working wonders on the ladies,

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and the master bedroom's perfect.

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-It's got an en-suite.

-It's got an en-suite.

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-Yeah.

-That's a nice size.

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Nice size. Yeah, that's a nice size en-suite.

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Ah, a walk-in wardrobe.

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A spacious double garage means plenty of room for storage...or laundry.

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That's a nice big garage for you to fill

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like the one you've got at home.

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-Yeah, yeah.

-DENISE GIGGLES

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-You could do something in here.

-You could do your washing.

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Your washing, utilities. It's a nice-sized garage.

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Electric door, nice big-sized double garage.

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It's all going well,

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until a step into the garden sees reactions take a turn for the worse.

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Not much outdoor space.

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-I'm not that keen on it. I think it's quite...

-Why?

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-Huh?

-Why?

-It's quite small.

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-What about you, Taron?

-I don't like it, really, at all.

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The garden's not great,

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but inside, this house does have the space the family wanted.

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So, with £400,000 to spend, is it within reach?

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What do you reckon, now, having seen the two properties?

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-What do you reckon? More or less?

-I think less.

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Less. I think less.

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I think this is going to be in our budget quite comfortably.

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I reckon it'll be about the same, just because the area looks nicer.

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The other one was 395, so I reckon this is around...300.

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-No.

-250, 300.

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-I reckon the same.

-I think it's more than that.

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-Yeah?

-I reckon the same.

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-I think it's...

-Or even a little bit more.

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Go on, then, Taron, let's see what the...

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Do you want to turn the card over?

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-Ergh...

-Whoa!

-Told you.

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That's £15,000 over their budget.

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That's...that is surprising. 415,000.

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-I thought it'd be more.

-It's more than the other house.

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Yeah, you could see just driving up, it's a better area.

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Got a nice house at home anyway...

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that we're happy in.

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Some are.

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-We are.

-Yeah.

-Yeah.

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The reality of Auckland's property prices

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is beginning to hit home with Peter.

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It is difficult for me at the moment.

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It has been my dream to come out here for the past 24 years, and...

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..yeah, it's knocking me for six, personally.

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For the final property of the day,

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we found the Rowsells what could be their ideal home...

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..a short hop away in neighbouring Orewa.

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Just two years old, this villa has four bedrooms and sea views.

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It should offer everything the family want,

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but that could come at an even higher cost.

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Once more, Peter's happy with the area.

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Looks nice here. Nice open area. Nice views.

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And inside, he starts a sales pitch again.

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This is a...sitting room, I would assume.

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It's even got views of the sea.

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I do like this one. This one's ticking the boxes so far...

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-Yeah.

-..for me.

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With two bedrooms downstairs,

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the family begin to speculate on the floor plan.

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-So, ah... So, what is it?

-It could be an upside-down house.

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-So, downstairs is...

-Yeah.

-Sleeping area's downstairs,

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and the living quarter's upstairs, obviously, for the better views.

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Upstairs brings a real smile to Peter's face.

0:16:550:16:58

That's all right. That's much better.

0:16:580:17:00

That's nice. Nice open-plan.

0:17:000:17:02

Nice sitting area outside and inside.

0:17:030:17:06

Look at the views - you're not going to beat them views.

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And it appears this could be

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some place Denise and Ella could call home.

0:17:110:17:14

-So, what do you think about this then, Ella?

-I like it.

-Yeah?

-Yeah.

0:17:150:17:18

-I like this house a lot.

-Yeah, I like this house.

-Good.

0:17:180:17:21

Yeah, no, it's nice. Can't beat that view, can you?

0:17:210:17:23

Nope. No, no, definitely.

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Back inside, the master bedroom gets the seal of approval.

0:17:250:17:28

-This is a nice big bedroom.

-Yeah.

-So, this would be our room.

0:17:280:17:32

Looks like it goes all the way through.

0:17:330:17:35

Ah, it's an en-suite. So, this is the bathroom. Very nice.

0:17:360:17:41

But already, Peter's worrying about the cost.

0:17:410:17:44

This place is going to be a shocker for us.

0:17:440:17:46

A spacious garden means everyone's sold on this home.

0:17:460:17:50

So, out of the three, you find this one's the best one?

0:17:500:17:52

This is the nicest house, the biggest house.

0:17:520:17:55

It really could be the family's dream house,

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but will it be affordable given their budget of £400,000?

0:17:590:18:03

-I think it'll be about £400,000 to £500,000.

-Pounds?

0:18:030:18:09

I think about the same as the last house.

0:18:090:18:11

I think it's going to be more again.

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Probably 450.

0:18:150:18:18

Around about 450, 459.

0:18:180:18:21

-It's going to be the most expensive out of the lot.

-Mm-hm.

0:18:210:18:23

-Cos it's the one we like.

-Yeah.

0:18:230:18:26

-You don't want to, do you?

-You ready?

0:18:260:18:27

It's more than £100,000 over budget.

0:18:370:18:40

For me, it's gutting. I wish I had...

0:18:410:18:43

Like I said before, I wish I'd done it 20 years ago.

0:18:430:18:45

Unless they can increase their earnings, it's out of reach,

0:18:450:18:48

and Peter's distraught.

0:18:480:18:49

Now, probably, for me, house wise prices is out of my reach...

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unless, at the end of the week, we see things that can turn it.

0:18:550:18:58

A day house-hunting on Auckland's North Shore

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has shown the whole family getting a house they'd like

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would cost them dearly.

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Property one failed to impress,

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with small rooms and a tiny garden.

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While the space offered by property two was an improvement,

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again, the outside space wasn't a patch

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on what the family have at home.

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And though property three did hit the mark,

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delivering everything everyone wanted,

0:19:250:19:27

it came with an eye-watering price tag.

0:19:270:19:29

Peter's week isn't off to the best of starts,

0:19:310:19:34

so how will the family vote when it comes to properties at home or away?

0:19:340:19:38

Based on the three houses we've seen today in New Zealand,

0:19:400:19:43

our vote's going to be...

0:19:430:19:44

-..New Zealand.

-UK.

-England.

0:19:520:19:54

Yeah, of course. I thought that would happen.

0:19:550:19:58

Why have you chosen England?

0:19:580:20:01

The third house was all right. It was liveable.

0:20:010:20:05

But the other two, they were just...

0:20:050:20:06

-Why did you choose England?

-Snap.

0:20:080:20:10

I liked the third house, but I don't know we can afford it.

0:20:100:20:13

The quality of life over here will potentially outweigh that.

0:20:130:20:17

Fair enough.

0:20:170:20:18

-Girl power.

-LAUGHING:

-Girl power.

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Auckland's soaring property prices

0:20:240:20:26

means Peter's got an even tougher task ahead of him

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if he's ever to persuade his wife and daughter to make the move.

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Promising job opportunities and increased salaries in New Zealand

0:20:320:20:35

could help his case.

0:20:350:20:37

Back in the UK, Peter's a maintenance manager

0:20:410:20:43

for a pharmaceutical company.

0:20:430:20:45

The reason I like the job is the people, the variety.

0:20:460:20:49

Every day is different - there's no same day,

0:20:490:20:51

we always have challenges throughout the day.

0:20:510:20:54

Denise works part-time at the local doctor's surgery as an administrator.

0:20:540:20:59

Yeah, I really like my job.

0:20:590:21:00

I enjoy everything about it, really,

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and I really enjoy working for the NHS.

0:21:020:21:05

It's just real life.

0:21:050:21:07

You're sort of seeing different things,

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and it's interesting.

0:21:100:21:12

Peter's prepared to sacrifice some salary

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to achieve the life he wants.

0:21:140:21:16

If, after when we weigh up all the pros and cons

0:21:160:21:20

with the lifestyle and the salary side of it,

0:21:200:21:22

if that means I have to take a drop, then...

0:21:220:21:24

but the lifestyle and the quality of life is still there,

0:21:240:21:27

then, you know, that's something I will consider.

0:21:270:21:30

Denise, meanwhile, wants a post with some flexibility

0:21:300:21:33

to increase her hours.

0:21:330:21:35

A part-time job that potentially could sort of up the hours

0:21:350:21:38

as the children get older and settled.

0:21:380:21:41

It's a big day for Peter

0:21:430:21:44

as he sets off to investigate work possibilities.

0:21:440:21:47

He's painfully aware his dream could live or die

0:21:470:21:50

based on what he discovers today.

0:21:500:21:52

It's very important for me this goes well today.

0:21:520:21:55

I need to know is it going to be the right move.

0:21:550:21:58

House prices in New Zealand are higher than what I expected,

0:21:580:22:02

so today I really need to get a good feeling of the job prospects.

0:22:020:22:05

If she did make the move,

0:22:050:22:07

Denise feels work could help her integrate into New Zealand life.

0:22:070:22:10

It's important for me to have a job here,

0:22:120:22:14

because I think to come out and not have a job would be awful.

0:22:140:22:17

You won't get to meet people...

0:22:170:22:18

You know, stuck at home all day would be...would be a nightmare.

0:22:200:22:24

Peter heads to a health care company where he gets a quick tour

0:22:240:22:27

with maintenance team leader Andrew, an expat.

0:22:270:22:31

I and my team look after the production machinery,

0:22:320:22:36

we do have a separate facility maintenance team as well.

0:22:360:22:40

Peter's keen to hear if working in New Zealand

0:22:420:22:44

would let him take advantage of the lifestyle he wants.

0:22:440:22:48

What is the work-life balance like here?

0:22:480:22:50

I still have to come to work, but I must admit,

0:22:500:22:53

-I spend more time outdoors than in front of a TV.

-Yeah.

0:22:530:22:56

Weekends, predominantly tramping, surfing, kayaking.

0:22:560:23:01

My biggest question -

0:23:010:23:02

might sound a silly question cos you've been here 14 years -

0:23:020:23:04

did you make the right move?

0:23:040:23:06

I absolutely made the right move.

0:23:060:23:08

Not just for me, personally, but for my children as well.

0:23:080:23:12

That's the answer he was hoping for.

0:23:120:23:15

Next, Peter meets Emma-Jane from recruitment

0:23:150:23:18

and asks about his qualifications.

0:23:180:23:20

Is my City & Guilds and NVQ Level 3s,

0:23:200:23:23

do they correspond to the type of skills in New Zealand?

0:23:230:23:27

We do have a lot of employees

0:23:270:23:28

that have emigrated from the UK and Ireland,

0:23:280:23:31

and we are really familiar with those qualifications.

0:23:310:23:34

They are qualifications that are very well recognised here.

0:23:340:23:38

In the last six months, I've been in a management role.

0:23:380:23:40

Do you think that's the kind of position

0:23:400:23:42

-I could bring over to this company?

-To be completely honest with you,

0:23:420:23:45

when we are entertaining a candidate outside of New Zealand,

0:23:450:23:48

they do need to have at least three to four years management experience.

0:23:480:23:51

Having to take a step backwards is disappointing,

0:23:540:23:57

but what other job opportunities exist?

0:23:570:23:59

OK, so a management role may be out of the question at this moment.

0:24:000:24:04

Is there any other positions you feel my qualifications would suit?

0:24:040:24:07

So, the positions that we would consider you for

0:24:070:24:10

is maintenance within the manufacturing environment.

0:24:100:24:13

We have roles that are either new roles or replacement roles.

0:24:130:24:16

They tend to come up...every six months.

0:24:160:24:20

So there are definitely roles that we could consider you for.

0:24:200:24:23

That's much more promising.

0:24:240:24:26

Meanwhile, across town, Denise is at Westmere Medical Centre

0:24:260:24:30

where she meets practice manager Melissa.

0:24:300:24:32

-Hi, Denise. I'm Melissa.

-Hello.

-Nice to meet you.

-And you.

0:24:320:24:36

A quick tour of the facilities shows Denise

0:24:360:24:38

she could gain some fringe benefits.

0:24:380:24:40

-This is our lovely staffroom area.

-Very nice.

0:24:400:24:44

-Look, and a garden.

-Yes.

0:24:440:24:46

-And we have staff get-togethers and things here.

-Yeah.

0:24:460:24:49

We do try and have nice times with the staff as well as hard work.

0:24:490:24:53

Yeah, that's good.

0:24:530:24:55

Then it's straight down to business.

0:24:550:24:57

Do you think I'd be able to find a job here

0:24:570:24:59

quite easily in New Zealand?

0:24:590:25:00

Yes, yes, I think medical receptionists and administrators

0:25:000:25:04

are quite sought-after because, for some reason,

0:25:040:25:07

there seems to be not so many with the skills that are required.

0:25:070:25:12

Denise could slot right in here,

0:25:120:25:14

but what about the all-important wages?

0:25:140:25:17

Can you tell me what sort of salary I'd be expected to get here?

0:25:170:25:21

I think, probably, you would be on

0:25:210:25:23

a starting wage of about 22, 23 an hour.

0:25:230:25:27

That's around ten pounds per hour.

0:25:270:25:29

I'm not sure if that's compatible to what you earn in the UK.

0:25:290:25:33

That's more than what I'm,

0:25:330:25:34

a little bit more than what I'm on in the UK.

0:25:340:25:36

-Oh, that's encouraging.

-Yeah.

0:25:360:25:39

Outside, Denise is sounding pretty upbeat.

0:25:410:25:45

It's very reassuring to know that if we did move

0:25:450:25:48

that, hopefully, I'd have, you know, potentially good job.

0:25:480:25:51

But she knows, as the main breadwinner,

0:25:510:25:53

it's Peter salary that could make all the difference.

0:25:530:25:57

It all hinges on Peter's job, really.

0:25:570:26:00

Obviously, after the shock of the house prices as well,

0:26:000:26:04

if his job's not right with the right money,

0:26:040:26:06

then it's just not even a consideration.

0:26:060:26:09

To find out about his earnings,

0:26:090:26:11

Peter meets recruitment consultant John Lawson.

0:26:110:26:14

You've been through my CV and all that.

0:26:140:26:16

What kind of salary would I expect?

0:26:160:26:18

The opportunity for you and looking at your background

0:26:180:26:20

and your experience is to say,

0:26:200:26:22

what is the value that you could bring to organisations

0:26:220:26:24

-as that type of expert?

-Yeah.

0:26:240:26:26

The remuneration for those sorts of positions

0:26:260:26:29

then jumps through into the early 100s.

0:26:290:26:33

100,000, up to 110, 120.

0:26:330:26:37

That's around £50,000,

0:26:390:26:41

approximately ten percent more than he earns at home,

0:26:410:26:44

and Peter's delighted.

0:26:440:26:46

His dream could be back on.

0:26:460:26:48

This morning I was a bit apprehensive

0:26:480:26:50

of what kind of salaries I can expect,

0:26:500:26:52

but now it's looking good.

0:26:520:26:53

It does mean to me that the move is still on.

0:26:530:26:57

So, after everything they've discovered,

0:26:580:27:01

will the couple choose work in New Zealand or the UK?

0:27:010:27:04

Based on our job experience today, our votes are going to be...

0:27:040:27:07

-..New Zealand.

-New Zealand.

0:27:140:27:17

So, why have you chose New Zealand?

0:27:170:27:19

Because...it's a lot more chilled atmosphere.

0:27:190:27:23

I must admit, today,

0:27:240:27:25

the environment on the shop floor at the company I just went to,

0:27:250:27:29

it is a lot more relaxed, chilled.

0:27:290:27:33

The consultant I saw was really chilled,

0:27:330:27:35

and the potential for me here is really, really good.

0:27:350:27:38

He may be delighted with a first vote for New Zealand from Denise,

0:27:420:27:46

but Peter's still got a long way to go

0:27:460:27:49

if he's to get the entire family to sign up

0:27:490:27:52

to his vision of their future.

0:27:520:27:55

With a new-found bounce in his step,

0:27:550:27:57

will his winning streak continue

0:27:570:27:59

after a day exploring the legendary Kiwi outdoors lifestyle?

0:27:590:28:03

The family head for a wander along Takapuna Beach,

0:28:060:28:09

which boasts stunning views of nearby Rangitoto Island.

0:28:090:28:12

You're not going to get a better view than this.

0:28:190:28:22

It's a great opportunity for photography fan Ella

0:28:220:28:25

to make the most of the scenery.

0:28:250:28:26

Look how many pictures you've taken already just for...

0:28:280:28:31

being out here in a nice environment.

0:28:310:28:33

Wouldn't get this in England, that's for certain.

0:28:330:28:36

And Peter and Taron take advantage of the low tide to explore rock pools.

0:28:360:28:40

Hey, Taz, a starfish. Look.

0:28:400:28:42

-Hello.

-PETER CHUCKLES

0:28:440:28:46

I feel like we're on holiday.

0:28:470:28:49

It is lovely.

0:28:490:28:50

For Peter, their time on the beach

0:28:500:28:52

sums up just why he's so keen to make the move.

0:28:520:28:55

Biggest thing for me, to draw me here is the lifestyle, easily.

0:28:560:29:00

I've see people leave work, pull a boat into the water

0:29:000:29:02

and just go swimming, just enjoying life,

0:29:020:29:05

and you don't get that in England.

0:29:050:29:07

What's it like, Denise?

0:29:070:29:08

-DENISE GASPS

-I've broken the barnacle.

0:29:080:29:10

Oh, dear.

0:29:100:29:13

Mind yourself. Hey, mind yourself.

0:29:130:29:15

But the lure of a sunny life by the sea isn't swaying Ella.

0:29:150:29:19

When we go on holiday, we go to a hot country

0:29:190:29:21

and we go to the beach and things like that,

0:29:210:29:23

and then, to live on it, it wouldn't feel right.

0:29:230:29:26

And I just couldn't... It's too warm all the time.

0:29:260:29:31

And when the family head to a cafe beside the beach,

0:29:310:29:33

Ella finds the opportunity to make her thoughts clear.

0:29:330:29:36

With Ella close to school leaving age,

0:29:450:29:47

Peter, clutching at straws,

0:29:470:29:49

spots a way of perhaps keeping everyone happy.

0:29:490:29:52

It's a possible solution, but Denise isn't happy.

0:30:020:30:06

-No, she's in her last year.

-I know she's in her last year.

0:30:060:30:08

But what I'm saying is, would you leave her at home with Nan,

0:30:080:30:13

and then come out, and she can come and join us at Christmas...?

0:30:130:30:18

-No.

-No?

-No.

0:30:180:30:20

Peter's desperate to cling onto his dream,

0:30:200:30:23

but even he realises splitting his family for good

0:30:230:30:25

could be too tough a step to take.

0:30:250:30:28

I don't really want to leave my daughter home,

0:30:290:30:32

which is quite worrying.

0:30:320:30:33

-CRYING:

-It has been my dream for 20-odd years,

0:30:390:30:42

but, obviously, my daughter is my number one.

0:30:420:30:46

Peter's passionate in his belief

0:30:500:30:52

New Zealand could give his family a better life,

0:30:520:30:55

but Ella's steadfast in her opinion

0:30:550:30:57

and overcoming that could be insurmountable.

0:30:570:31:00

With the atmosphere tense, the family head into Auckland city centre.

0:31:000:31:04

With Peter and Ella both camera buffs,

0:31:050:31:08

we've arranged for the family to take a dusk photography tour

0:31:080:31:11

with tutor Lea.

0:31:110:31:12

With manual, basically, it's all about light, right, photography?

0:31:120:31:16

And it's all about how we control that light,

0:31:160:31:19

and manual mode actually allows us to do that.

0:31:190:31:21

And it's not long before they're getting snap-happy.

0:31:210:31:24

It's been a day filled with emotion,

0:31:340:31:36

but has the Kiwi lifestyle done enough to win everyone over?

0:31:360:31:40

Based on our lifestyle experience today, our votes are going to be...

0:31:400:31:43

..New Zealand.

0:31:500:31:51

Fair enough. Why...why undecided, Ella?

0:31:560:31:59

I mean, I enjoyed it,

0:31:590:32:01

but I feel like we could have done this in the UK.

0:32:010:32:04

I liked going along the beaches,

0:32:050:32:07

and in England, you couldn't do that.

0:32:070:32:09

OK. What about you, Denise?

0:32:090:32:11

I enjoyed the day, but I don't still feel like I can live here.

0:32:110:32:15

I enjoyed the day all together.

0:32:150:32:17

As a family, I thought it was a good activity.

0:32:170:32:19

It was nice to see Ella enjoying herself as well this evening,

0:32:190:32:21

so that's why I voted New Zealand.

0:32:210:32:24

With the family split right down the middle,

0:32:340:32:36

Peter could be fighting a losing battle.

0:32:360:32:39

Could a detailed look at how their finances would pan out down under

0:32:390:32:42

give him a glimmer of hope?

0:32:420:32:44

He and Denise feel their house in the UK is worth around £340,000.

0:32:460:32:51

We sent round two estate agents to give their valuations.

0:32:510:32:54

Ooh, good - our kitchen.

0:32:570:32:59

'Lovely country-style farmhouse kitchen set back from the road.

0:32:590:33:03

'The first of the three reception rooms -

0:33:030:33:05

'really nice feel about it with solid oak flooring

0:33:050:33:08

'and the wood burner, in particular, features.

0:33:080:33:10

'Again, we've got a nice, spacious dining room,

0:33:100:33:12

'French doors leading out into the garden a particular highlight.'

0:33:120:33:15

-ELLA:

-My room.

-Your room.

0:33:150:33:16

-Going in.

-Is it going to be clean? Yes, it is clean.

0:33:160:33:18

So, a good-sized double bedroom,

0:33:180:33:20

beautiful feature fireplace part of the older part of the property.

0:33:200:33:24

Our bedroom now.

0:33:240:33:25

It's a beautiful master bedroom,

0:33:260:33:28

it's got its separate dressing area, plenty of built-in storage.

0:33:280:33:32

-Taron's room.

-Got a really nice-sized third bedroom.

0:33:320:33:34

Really refreshing to see three doubles in the house.

0:33:340:33:37

'So, the family bathroom, needs a bit of finishing off in a few areas,

0:33:370:33:40

'but generally not in too bad condition.'

0:33:400:33:42

In today's market, we would value this property at £350,000.

0:33:430:33:46

For a quick sale, we'd put it on the market for £325,000.

0:33:460:33:50

In today's market, I would value

0:33:500:33:51

this property at around £315,000.

0:33:510:33:54

For a quick sale, I would recommend placing the property

0:33:540:33:57

on the market for around £300,000.

0:33:570:33:59

I must admit, the price is a bit lower than what I thought.

0:33:590:34:02

No, I sort of thought 340, so that's...

0:34:020:34:04

One went 315 to quick sale 300.

0:34:040:34:07

-Yeah.

-That's a lot.

-Yeah.

-That's a big drop.

0:34:070:34:10

The estimates are lower than Peter had been hoping for.

0:34:100:34:13

Next, the couple compare the cost of living in New Zealand with the UK,

0:34:130:34:16

starting with the weekly food shop.

0:34:160:34:18

-Milk.

-Milk. Oh, God.

0:34:200:34:22

So that's £1.91 more for a four-pint bottle.

0:34:220:34:27

Potatoes. Potatoes are a lot more.

0:34:270:34:29

At the moment, most of them are more expensive.

0:34:290:34:32

566.

0:34:320:34:34

Which is a difference of...

0:34:340:34:36

£8.20 worse off in New Zealand.

0:34:360:34:39

Spending around £35 a month more on groceries wouldn't break the bank.

0:34:390:34:44

-..which I think is pretty good.

-It's not bad.

-Not bad.

0:34:440:34:47

Next, the couple move on to examine their bigger outgoings,

0:34:470:34:50

basing their figures on the dream home they viewed.

0:34:500:34:53

Oh, jeez!

0:34:530:34:55

The mortgage is a huge amount difference to that.

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-That's four times as much.

-Mm.

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-And electricity is more.

-And electricity is more.

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In total, the couple discover

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they'd be spending £1,874 more each month in New Zealand.

0:35:070:35:13

That's a shock for me.

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I mean, I kind of thought it'd be more,

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-but didn't expect it to be...

-That high.

-..double.

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-No.

-Over double.

-Mm-hm.

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That is a shock.

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It's a blow for Peter.

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Such a significant hike in outgoings would be hard to shoulder.

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And even when they take their increased salaries into account,

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the outcome isn't great.

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-£898 better off in the UK.

-In the UK.

-..per month.

-Per month.

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-It's a lot of money.

-That is a lot of money.

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Being over £10,000 worse off each year in New Zealand

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is a devastating outcome for Peter.

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I've seen the lifestyle that I'd like to have here

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and today, that dream has probably been shattered.

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It's time to vote on finances in the UK versus New Zealand.

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Based on our reality check today, our votes are going to be...

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-..UK.

-UK.

0:36:120:36:13

The cost of living,

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well, the mortgage has made a big difference in that decision.

0:36:160:36:20

-I think you've been true to yourself.

-Yeah, I am.

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-Mm-hm.

-Mm.

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Despite the country delivering the lifestyle Peter wants,

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the figures have shown achieving it would mean taking a financial hit.

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Peter's vision of his family's future

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could be slipping further from his grasp,

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and he's yet to face possibly his biggest hurdle.

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Having first discussed it with the children,

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the family sit down to watch messages from loved ones at home together.

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Hi, Peter and Denise.

0:36:510:36:52

-Hello.

-Hello.

0:36:520:36:53

Hi, Peter.

0:36:530:36:54

I hope you've had a fantastic time.

0:36:540:36:57

Peter, a very nice guy.

0:36:570:36:59

Very helpful, useful guy to have around.

0:36:590:37:02

-Good with the IT.

-Especially with the IT.

-Helps us.

0:37:020:37:05

If I would describe Denise, I would say she's a real homegirl,

0:37:050:37:10

she's a real, you know, family-orientated person.

0:37:100:37:13

The kids, they're fun.

0:37:130:37:15

Taron's a bit of a live wire, as you'll find out, no doubt.

0:37:150:37:18

Ella is a great girl. She's, you know, she's a great niece to me.

0:37:180:37:22

She loves her photography,

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and I think one day she's going to be a fantastic photographer.

0:37:240:37:27

They're lovely. They've helped me a lot in the past.

0:37:270:37:30

Some much so, you know...

0:37:300:37:32

They've really looked after Joshua

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for me at times.

0:37:330:37:35

Yeah, they're just a fantastic family.

0:37:360:37:38

I think the world of them, I really do.

0:37:380:37:41

My parents would miss him terribly,

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and obviously, Denise, I know Denise's parents

0:37:430:37:45

would miss the family as well.

0:37:450:37:47

I would miss them dreadfully.

0:37:470:37:49

-I'd miss things like Ella learning to drive...

-Yeah.

-..turning 18.

0:37:490:37:54

All the things that you think you're going to do together,

0:37:540:37:57

you know, suddenly that might not happen.

0:37:570:38:00

My heart says one thing

0:38:000:38:02

and my head says another,

0:38:020:38:03

but, you know, I can't stand in their way.

0:38:030:38:06

We're not young any more.

0:38:060:38:09

You know, we're getting on, obviously.

0:38:090:38:11

We'd like to see the grandchildren grow up and...

0:38:110:38:14

And hopefully get married

0:38:140:38:16

and perhaps have children and have great grandchildren,

0:38:160:38:19

and if they're out there, we would never see them,

0:38:190:38:22

and that would be really hard.

0:38:220:38:24

-Very hard.

-Mm.

0:38:240:38:26

It's down to you, son. Good luck.

0:38:260:38:28

A little surprised my mum and dad actually spoke,

0:38:350:38:37

which I kind of think that goes...shows quite a bit, actually.

0:38:370:38:41

I think it showed that they were keen to put across their view.

0:38:410:38:44

-Yeah, well...

-Yeah, which is fine, it's not a problem.

0:38:440:38:48

They put their view across,

0:38:480:38:49

and I know how adamant they do not want us to go,

0:38:490:38:52

and that's fair enough.

0:38:520:38:54

I just don't want to move out here and not see them all.

0:38:540:38:58

I think it would be extremely hard

0:38:580:39:00

to just pack everything up, move here,

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have no-one here to support us here

0:39:030:39:06

when we've got all the support at home,

0:39:060:39:08

which we could have for years to come.

0:39:080:39:11

Whereas when we move here, we've got no-one.

0:39:130:39:15

It would just be us.

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After being dealt a blow

0:39:200:39:22

by the financial implications of achieving his dream,

0:39:220:39:25

the reality of leaving loved ones may have also cost Peter dearly.

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For most of his life,

0:39:300:39:31

he's coveted the idea of one day settling in New Zealand,

0:39:310:39:35

so as the family's turn of their cards approaches,

0:39:350:39:39

is his dream on the verge of coming true

0:39:390:39:42

or about to disappear forever?

0:39:420:39:44

For two and a half decades,

0:39:470:39:48

Peter's hankered after a life in New Zealand,

0:39:480:39:51

and the week's confirmed for him it's the place he wants to be.

0:39:510:39:54

The quality of life I've seen here now,

0:39:540:39:57

beside the sea with the nice sun and all that,

0:39:570:39:59

means that's the kind of environment I want to live in.

0:39:590:40:03

For Taron, too, the country's proved an all-round winner.

0:40:030:40:06

I like the beaches, the heat, the views...

0:40:060:40:10

..the food.

0:40:110:40:13

But while the trial week's challenged

0:40:130:40:15

Denise's perceptions of New Zealand...

0:40:150:40:18

It has kind of brought me round.

0:40:180:40:21

It has made me think differently to when I came out.

0:40:210:40:25

..Kiwi living hasn't exactly worked its charms on all the family.

0:40:250:40:29

I just find that it's not really somewhere I'd want to live.

0:40:290:40:33

It's more just come visit here for holiday or something.

0:40:330:40:37

Peter worries Ella's opinion might put paid to his dream.

0:40:370:40:40

I'm absolutely devastated.

0:40:410:40:42

It's heartbreaking to watch her make a decision for the family.

0:40:420:40:48

So, we have got his dreams, like, in our hands,

0:40:480:40:51

but at the end of the day, it's not just his decision.

0:40:510:40:55

And Peter's spirit seems close to breaking point.

0:40:550:40:58

I don't think it's going to come true.

0:40:590:41:01

I don't think my dream's going to come true.

0:41:040:41:06

It's...

0:41:070:41:09

..very emotional.

0:41:100:41:11

It's like a flame now has been extinguished for me.

0:41:150:41:18

That's how much it feels.

0:41:200:41:21

But with how Denise will vote unclear,

0:41:250:41:27

he's clinging onto a glimmer of hope.

0:41:270:41:30

If I'm honest, I'm probably not 100% sure what I'm going to vote.

0:41:300:41:35

If they turn over that card and it's on New Zealand,

0:41:350:41:38

that would be all my Christmases, all my birthdays,

0:41:380:41:42

everything all in one.

0:41:420:41:43

It would be an absolutely amazing feeling.

0:41:430:41:45

I've lived... I can have my dream. I can start living again.

0:41:450:41:49

After 24 years, everything rests on these final minutes

0:41:500:41:54

as the family decide where their future lies.

0:41:540:41:57

After a fantastic week

0:41:580:41:59

and an adventure that we've all really enjoyed,

0:41:590:42:02

this is going to be our final vote whether it's UK or New Zealand.

0:42:020:42:06

-New Zealand.

-UK.

0:42:160:42:18

Well, I have chosen to go undecided, but veering towards the UK.

0:42:200:42:25

I don't think we could realistically afford to live here.

0:42:250:42:29

Taron, why have you chosen New Zealand?

0:42:290:42:30

Because I really enjoyed it here,

0:42:300:42:33

and it's got really good beaches and houses.

0:42:330:42:36

-Ella, why 100% UK?

-I couldn't live here.

0:42:360:42:40

This isn't home.

0:42:400:42:42

I feel that that there's potential to still come over here,

0:42:420:42:46

not in Auckland, but other areas of the island

0:42:460:42:50

and be able to afford and have a comfortable life

0:42:500:42:53

with the quality of life that I feel, as a family, we deserve.

0:42:530:42:58

Peter may have been beaten, but he's definitely not defeated,

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remaining hopeful New Zealand may still become home one day.

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Whether it happens or not,

0:43:120:43:13

we hope the Rowsell's future is a happy one.

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