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Time spent travelling in your twenties

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on the other side of the world can often leave you longing for more.

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But when your bachelor days are behind you and you have a wife

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that's happy at home, is it a move you can realistically make?

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Ever since backpacking in New Zealand,

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Greg Wallen's been planning on making a permanent return.

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I want to make a home in New Zealand more than anything in the world.

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Now married, his wife's willing to be convinced.

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It's always been his dream, it's been what he wants to do,

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and he put all of that on hold for me. I owe it him to try.

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But when a trial week in the country doesn't quite go to plan...

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It's cold, the floor feels damp.

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It's not the image I had in my head of moving to New Zealand.

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I'm worried, Jen. Really, really worried.

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..will Greg be forced to give up on his dream?

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Maybe I was thinking the grass is definitely greener on the other side.

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Now I'm kind of like, brutally honest,

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"Oh, my God, what have I done?"

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Lying nearly 1,000 miles from its neighbour Australia,

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New Zealand's home to the southernmost capital in the world.

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A third of the country is designated as national parks and reserves,

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and inhabitants are never more than 80 miles from the sea.

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So it's easy to see why every year,

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7,000 adventure-loving Brits choose to make the country home.

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Greg Wallen was all set to return to the land he loved as a backpacker

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when a dabble in online dating brought his plans to an abrupt halt.

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Fast-forward five years, and Greg is still passionate in his belief

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New Zealand is where he should be living.

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He just has to convince his wife, Jenni, it's a realistic option,

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and worth giving up everything she has at home.

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The Wallen's trial week kicks off with

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more than 22 hours in the air, flying to Auckland via Hong Kong.

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It can be a tough journey for anyone,

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but it's only made worse when, like Jenni, you're three months pregnant.

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My morning sickness, which lasted 27 hours,

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was not great.

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Three-year-old Evie struggled too.

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You didn't sleep, did you, madam?

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Evie didn't sleep at all from Hong Kong to here.

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But she was good, she was good.

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The long trip's given Jenni plenty of time

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to think about the distance she's put between family.

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I've had a few tears on the plane already.

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I kept thinking about how often my mum would likely come over

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and it all just got a little bit overwhelming.

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And for Greg, touching down again on Kiwi soil has been moving too.

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I got a bit emotional when I landed, actually.

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It was kind of like, almost like, "I'm home" feeling. It's weird.

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It's good. I feel completely comfortable, completely at ease here.

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Whether New Zealand will become his home will depend on Greg

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persuading Jenni over the next seven days.

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Meet the Wallens.

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They are Greg, Jenni and three-year-old Evie, from Sheffield.

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In 2010, as a young carefree bachelor, Greg spent a year

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backpacking in New Zealand, and the country captured his heart.

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The thing I liked most about New Zealand was the people,

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the culture of the country.

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Everything was really, really clean.

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Within about six weeks of being in New Zealand

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I felt completely at ease with life.

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When his travel visa expired, Greg reluctantly returned to the UK,

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but smitten with everything New Zealand had to offer,

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he immediately began planning to move there for good.

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I came back to the UK, had a job lined up here in Sheffield.

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I had about a six months tops target in my head and then go back.

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But fate intervened in his New Zealand plans

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when he dipped his toe in the waters of online dating.

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I wasn't looking for anything serious, wasn't looking for love,

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wasn't looking for marriage, I was just looking for someone to spend

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time with because I didn't really know anyone in Sheffield, really.

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I'd gone on it, being a single parent, not having much opportunity

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to meet anyone, and we talked online and met up for a date.

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Greg and Jenni hit it off straight away,

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but Greg was upfront from the start he was on his way back down under.

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I don't think either of us really went into it thinking,

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"This is going to be a long-term relationship."

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Then as it got more serious and as I started to feel more for him

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I started to get a bit more worried he was going to up and leave me.

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I was like, "OK."

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Within two weeks of meeting,

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Greg was begging Jenni to join him for a new life in New Zealand.

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As their relationship blossomed

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she was clear her heart lay in the UK.

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I fell in love with Jen, and the more I was falling in love with Jen

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the more the dream was slipping away at the same time.

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And then Jen was going, "Stay, don't go back. We can have a good life here."

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And I was just obviously torn.

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And then obviously I decided to stay with Jen.

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Choosing love over the Kiwi lifestyle, Greg settled down to start

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a new home with Jenni, and took on her daughter Evie as his own.

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The couple married in 2013,

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but Greg's dream of a life in New Zealand hasn't disappeared.

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I think at the point where Jen wasn't as keen as I was,

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it was a blow, but it never really went away for me.

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I want to make a home in New Zealand more than anything in the world.

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While he fell in love with the country as a single man,

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he believes it's the ideal place for his new family to settle.

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When I lived in New Zealand I felt it was perfect for me.

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I remember walking through towns, parks, beaches - kids everywhere,

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and they were all incredibly happy, and I remember just thinking

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to myself all the time, "This is a brilliant place to raise a family."

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With Jenni expecting, the family will soon outgrow their current home.

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And Greg believes it's the ideal opportunity

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to kick-start his dream once again.

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It's only two bedrooms.

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If we have another child it would be very difficult.

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The living space is just not big enough.

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It's not big enough as it is, to be fair.

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-We are already overflowing, aren't we?

-Yeah.

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Instead of using the money we have got to move to a bigger house,

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we could potentially use that money to emigrate to New Zealand.

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Knowing how passionate her husband is about making a home

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on the other side of the world, Jenni's prepared to give it a shot.

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If we can make it work, finance, job-wise, quality-of-life-wise,

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now would be a good time.

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But she's already losing sleep thinking about leaving her family behind.

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I wake up in the middle of the night, or I'll be talking to one

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of my family or friends who are saying, "Oh, we're going to miss you."

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And I crumble and go, "Oh, I don't know if I can do this."

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And taking Evie away from her parents is also causing concern.

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It's one of the things that holds me back,

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thinking that Evie is not going to have that relationship

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with her grandparents that I really want her to have.

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Leaving loved ones could be hard for Greg too.

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He's only recently reconciled with his mum.

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The hardest person for me to leave behind would probably be...

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Sorry.

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It's probably...

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It's probably going to be my mum.

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I didn't talk to my mum for a number of years,

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and since meeting Jen we've kind of got our relationship back,

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so I'm kind of nervous about chucking that away again.

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That's tough for me.

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For four years, Greg's been desperate

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to make a permanent return to New Zealand.

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Now he has a week to see if the country he fell for as a backpacker

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is as good as he remembers,

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and convince his wife to start again on the other side of the world.

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To move to New Zealand is a risk, it's a massive risk, it's a gamble.

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I'm not going to lie about it.

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This will definitely prove to us whether I was kind of looking at it

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from 12,000 miles away through rose-tinted spectacles.

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For me and Greg, it's about whether or not we put our roots down

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and really commit to our life here,

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or whether we commit to a life in New Zealand.

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So the rest of our life feels on hold until we've made that decision.

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Greg, Jenni and Evie are spending their trial week in Auckland,

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home to a third of all New Zealanders.

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Their base for the week is situated in Milford,

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on the city's north shore.

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Will her first taste of Kiwi living work its charms on Jenni?

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Wow. It looks lovely.

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Upstairs, the open-plan kitchen

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and living area make a good first impression.

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Wow, that's amazing.

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Look at the view from here, Jen.

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As they settle in, Greg's overjoyed to have finally got Jenni to New Zealand.

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It's took four years to get Jen to this point.

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I can't believe it's all boiled down to this.

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But she's anxious about the week ahead.

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Deciding on the rest of my life at the end of this week

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is quite a scary prospect.

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It's scary.

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Greg feels he's in prime position to convince her to make the move.

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I think this is the best chance of persuading Jen to move out here

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because, for me, walking upstairs here

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and looking at this view of the city from, you know,

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the most beautiful country in the world, it sold me.

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I've just got to try and get Jen over the line.

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But while Jenni accepts how much this all means to her husband...

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It's always been his dream, it's been what he wants to do,

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and he put all of that on hold for me, so I owe it to him to try.

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She's in no mood to bow to pressure.

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He's going to have to allow me time to think,

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and not just keep saying to me, "Look at this, isn't this great?

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"Look at this, isn't that great?"

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He needs to not try and force his viewpoint on to me.

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Greg's got an uphill struggle on his hands if he is to finally make his dream come true.

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This is it. This is, like, you know, make or break for me.

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The next week will decide where the family will spend the rest of their lives.

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Back in the UK, the Wallens live in a two-bedroom house in Sheffield.

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We do like living here, and we do like the area,

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but it's just not big enough for our needs any more.

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-We've outgrown it, haven't we?

-Yeah.

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Jenny's fond of an aspect of their current home

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that Greg feels could help his cause.

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I like the open-plan living, I like the fact we've got two toilets.

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-You'd like New Zealand, then, that's very open-plan living.

-Yeah, that's good.

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But there might be a difference of opinion in what a Kiwi home has to have.

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At least three bedrooms, two bathrooms,

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preferably one of those is en-suite.

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-A wood burner. We can put the wood burner in!

-It's a must for me.

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-You say it's not a deal-breaker, but it could be.

-We can put one in!

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We can't change sizes of rooms!

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The Wallens have £250,000 to spend on a Kiwi house.

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Today we'll show them three properties -

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two on budget and a third which could be their dream home.

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Only after they've seen each one will they find out its value.

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For the first viewing, the family drive about an hour south of Auckland to Waiuku.

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Close to a park and the local primary school,

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will this four-bedroom property be a good fit for the Wallens?

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The house's kerb appeal gets the viewing off on the right foot.

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What do you reckon, love?

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That looks very nice.

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And Evie quickly makes a friend.

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-Good girl.

-Oh-h-h.

-Cat!

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-A cat, is that a winner for you now, then, Evie?

-Yes!

-Yes!

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Everything is going swimmingly until they step into the first bedroom.

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-I don't like it.

-Why?

-It's hideous.

-What don't you like about it?

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Right. It's cold, the floor feels damp,

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I reckon the place has got rising damp, it needs a rewire.

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And I don't know... I just don't like it, full stop.

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Straight away, this house is falling

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far short of what Greg had been hoping for.

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Wow, that's... Oh-h-h!

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And the next bedroom doesn't help.

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I don't like the feel of it, Jen.

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We've got to come 12,000 miles,

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both our new jobs, with two children,

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integrate into life and then we've got to sort the house out as well.

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Do you know what I mean? I just think it's a bit of a tall order.

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Oh, dear. It's not looking good.

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So you don't want a renovation project?

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-It's going to be too much for me, Jen.

-OK.

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Let's go to see what else this place has got to offer,

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because I'm not really happy at the minute.

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The next two bedrooms are downstairs.

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Oh, this is nice!

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This is lovely. I like this exposed brick.

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-Do you prefer this bedroom to the ones upstairs?

-Yeah.

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It's an improvement, but Greg's expectations just aren't being met.

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It's just it's not the image I had in my head of moving to New Zealand.

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It's far from it.

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I can't, I'm not going to raise my kids in a place like this. I just...

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I'm shellshocked, to say the least, to be honest with you.

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And disappointment quickly turns to despair.

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I'm worried, Jen. Really, really worried.

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This is... I've got...

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I'm actually really scared this is not going to work.

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Really scared it's not going to work.

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I don't know. Where are we going, left?

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Upstairs, the living room does show more promise.

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Boy, this is much better.

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Yeah. I didn't expect this! It's got the log burner.

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That's one of your requirements, a log burner.

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I don't think we're going to need a log burner.

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-Was it a long burner you wanted?

-Yes, it was, dear.

-Was it? Oh.

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Wasn't quite sure. You'd not said it enough.

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And the kitchen comes up trumps.

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-Nice big kitchen.

-Nice, isn't it?

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Until electrical engineer Greg spots some dubious wiring.

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Oh, my God!

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Look at it. Look at that!

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Back home, that would be uninsurable.

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This house clearly isn't the one for the Wallens,

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so just how close does it come to the family's £250,000 budget?

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Right, the moment of truth.

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How much do you think?

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160? I'll go a bit higher, £170,000.

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-Probably be on for about 200,000 in Sheffield.

-Come on, think positive.

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£165,000.

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Go on, do it.

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£261,000.

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That's £11,000 over budget.

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It's like a bleeding lease, isn't it?

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-Looking like we're not moving for the house!

-261 grand for this.

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This has made me feel sick with worry about the rest of this week, to be honest.

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I knew we were going to be in for an emotional few days.

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The price of Auckland property is hitting home for Greg.

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Will property two be more up his street?

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Just a 20-minute drive to the east is Pukekohe,

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a town offering a relaxed way of life,

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yet within an hour's commute of Auckland's city centre.

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Wow, look at this front garden.

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From the outside, this three-bedroom home makes a much better impression.

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I definitely like this area more.

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It's got a much better view, much better feel about it.

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Yeah, this is good.

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Inside...

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Oh, this is a nice little hall, this feels more modern.

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..Greg's mood continues to lift.

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Oh, this is a nice bedroom, isn't it? Yeah, this is nice.

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Positive first sign. Doesn't feel damp, doesn't feel cold.

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Yeah, it's quite a good start.

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And Evie's happy too.

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-Really, really, really good!

-Yay!

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Next door, bedroom two also pleases.

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Oh, another bedroom. This is a nice-sized child's room, isn't it?

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Yeah, it's good. I'm happy.

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This house is winning Greg's approval,

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but the floor plan could be a stumbling block for Jenni.

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I'm glad there is a third bedroom,

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but I'm not sure how I feel about it being off the dining room.

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And she's no happier in the kitchen.

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I'd redo it.

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-The lot?

-Yeah.

-Really?

-Yeah.

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Outside, the garden doesn't impress either.

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It's a bit pokey, isn't it?

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So, basically, then, the garden for kids is at the front.

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-It's not enough, is it?

-No.

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This house has won praise and criticism in equal measure,

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but could Greg and Jenni afford it with their budget of £250,000?

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For us to flip that card over and keep the dream alive,

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it's got to be under 200, I'm thinking 180-ish.

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So, what do you think it's worth?

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Based on the last property, I'm going to say about 250.

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Go for it.

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251,000.

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That's £1,000 over budget.

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No, absolutely not.

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Maybe I was looking at it with rose-tinted spectacles.

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Maybe I was thinking the grass was definitely greener on the other side.

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Now I'm kind of like, to be brutally honest, "Oh, my God, what have I done?"

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The possibility his dream could be slipping away

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proves too much for an emotional Greg.

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So far the property hunt has brought doubt and disappointment,

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but there is still one more property to view.

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Also in Pukekohe, we found what could be Greg and Jenny's dream home.

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Will it be the one to turn around their property fortunes,

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and get Greg's dream back on track?

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-Wow.

-OK.

-This is much better, isn't it?

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This much more like what I would like.

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Inside, Greg's expectations are at last being met.

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This is the image I had in my head. This is what I wanted you to see.

0:18:180:18:21

-Spot on.

-Lovely.

-Perfect.

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The spacious kitchen with its granite worktops

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has both Greg and Jenni excited.

0:18:260:18:28

Oh, this is amazing, isn't it?

0:18:280:18:30

-This is such a nice finish.

-Nicely laid out.

-Nicely laid out.

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Large enough.

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And a second living room hits the spot.

0:18:360:18:39

-This is a lovely family lounge. This is huge.

-Wow.

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I have noticed the one thing it doesn't have that you wanted.

0:18:440:18:47

-Log burner.

-Yeah.

-I'm willing to sack the log burner off.

0:18:490:18:52

That's a fair compromise, Greg!

0:18:520:18:54

This is the New Zealand house that I had in my head.

0:18:540:18:58

-It's revived the dream, hasn't it?

-Yeah.

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The first three bedrooms continue to impress.

0:19:000:19:04

-It's a nice...

-This is nice.

-I would say I'm sold on it.

0:19:040:19:07

Well, yeah, it's a lovely sized room.

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Nice window looking out over the back garden.

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It ticks every box and more.

0:19:120:19:14

-Look at this for Evie.

-This is perfect for Evie.

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-She'd absolutely love it.

-The dream could be alive.

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But Greg's beginning to worry if they could afford to call this house home.

0:19:190:19:24

I've got a feeling we're going to get absolutely smashed on price.

0:19:240:19:27

Money worries seem a distant memory, though,

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as the master bedroom seals the deal.

0:19:300:19:33

Oh, this is perfect.

0:19:330:19:34

You can't tell me this does not beat hands down every house

0:19:340:19:37

-we looked at in Sheffield over the last two years.

-Yeah, it does.

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It's a room that just keeps on giving.

0:19:400:19:43

-Oh!

-A walk-in wardrobe.

0:19:430:19:45

-A walk-in, not just a built-in! Oh, wow!

-Mind-blowing.

0:19:450:19:49

Oh, en-suite! Oh, this is nice.

0:19:510:19:54

I'm still speechless!

0:19:540:19:57

It's perfect.

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And outside, the garden's picture-perfect.

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That view is stunning.

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-Couldn't ask for more, really, could you?

-No.

0:20:040:20:07

This really could be Greg and Jenni's dream home.

0:20:070:20:10

Time to find out if it's within reach of their £250,000 budget.

0:20:100:20:15

This is my dream New Zealand house.

0:20:150:20:17

If we flip this card over now, it comes in 350, 400,000...

0:20:170:20:21

Basically, if it works out financially,

0:20:210:20:23

-and the lifestyle is good...

-We're on.

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Even if, even if this costs us so much that we couldn't really afford,

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at least in the short term, to be saving up to go home,

0:20:310:20:35

I like this house so much

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that I'm thinking we'll deal with it for the time being.

0:20:370:20:40

Right. This is it, darling.

0:20:400:20:42

£400,000.

0:20:420:20:43

-I think someone should look at this card.

-OK.

0:20:510:20:54

Oh, my God!

0:20:570:20:58

-What?

-331,000!

-Really?

-That is cheap, really!

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That's £81,000 over budget.

0:21:050:21:08

It's looking positive at that, isn't it?

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If we can get a decent wage, that is all my dreams and more,

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and anything I could have hoped for, come true.

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That's how much it means to me.

0:21:160:21:18

Greg's delighted. if he can secure the job to pay for this property,

0:21:200:21:24

his dream really could be back on track.

0:21:240:21:27

It's been a day that taken Greg on a journey from desperation to hope.

0:21:280:21:32

Property one caused concern with potential damp issues

0:21:330:21:36

and outdated wiring.

0:21:360:21:38

Property two failed to impress, with the garden deemed far too small.

0:21:380:21:42

But property three raised the bar with wow factor living areas

0:21:430:21:47

and scenic views.

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So when it comes to property, will the family vote home or away?

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Based on all the properties we've seen today, our vote goes to...

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Three, two, one.

0:22:010:22:03

-UK.

-Undecided.

0:22:030:22:04

Where do you want to go?

0:22:050:22:07

My house!

0:22:090:22:10

Why were you undecided?

0:22:110:22:14

That last house we saw was just ideal, and in England,

0:22:140:22:18

we would never be able to afford that, but if the finances

0:22:180:22:23

over here mean that we could afford that, then I would be New Zealand.

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We'll find out tomorrow whether we can afford it or not.

0:22:280:22:31

And if we can, it'll flip straight to New Zealand, but at the moment,

0:22:310:22:35

I need to put my thinking, logical head on,

0:22:350:22:38

and my logical head at the moment says to stay in the UK.

0:22:380:22:41

Greg may have found the perfect pad,

0:22:490:22:51

but if the couple are to afford it, finding well-paid jobs will be vital.

0:22:510:22:56

Back in the UK, Greg's an electrical engineer

0:23:000:23:03

and runs his own business fitting and testing electrical safety equipment.

0:23:030:23:07

Absolutely love it.

0:23:070:23:09

Used to work for a company, which I enjoyed, but I thought I could

0:23:090:23:13

do better on my own, and business at the moment's really, really busy.

0:23:130:23:16

Currently booked out for the next sort of three months solid.

0:23:160:23:19

In New Zealand, he'd be keen to become an employee again,

0:23:190:23:22

hoping that would improve his work-life balance.

0:23:220:23:25

I hope kind of to work around the 40 to 50 hours a week

0:23:250:23:29

in New Zealand for a company.

0:23:290:23:31

Weekends and evenings off, ideally, so I can get some more time

0:23:310:23:34

with my family, which I currently don't have always.

0:23:340:23:37

Jenni, meanwhile, is a social worker dealing with child protection.

0:23:370:23:41

I love, in my job, the thought of helping people.

0:23:410:23:45

I'm helping children to make sure that they have the greatest start in life they can.

0:23:450:23:51

To sign off on a move, she'd need to be sure her career prospects weren't hindered.

0:23:510:23:56

The next step forward, if I was to remain in the UK, would be

0:23:560:23:59

looking at a management role,

0:23:590:24:01

and that's what I would be looking for maybe in New Zealand.

0:24:010:24:04

Hard on the heels of discovering how expensive property can be

0:24:070:24:10

in Auckland, today's job search comes with added pressure.

0:24:100:24:14

-Don't come back with less than 100,000.

-OK.

0:24:140:24:16

While Evie's looked after by a childminder,

0:24:160:24:18

the couple set off to investigate their work prospects.

0:24:180:24:21

It's a big day for Greg's dream, and he is feeling the strain.

0:24:210:24:25

The paramount thing is money.

0:24:250:24:27

If we've got enough money to look at buying something like

0:24:270:24:30

house three that we saw yesterday,

0:24:300:24:32

I'm pretty sure we'd all vote yes at the end of the week.

0:24:320:24:35

Greg's meeting Dave Bird who runs an electrical company currently fitting out a new housing complex.

0:24:350:24:40

This here is a block of probably the first 15 apartments

0:24:420:24:44

that we've just started pre-wiring.

0:24:440:24:46

Straight away, he's keen to hear if his qualifications would be recognised in New Zealand.

0:24:460:24:50

When you come out here, you're going to have to

0:24:510:24:53

-submit all your qualifications to the Electrical Wiring Regulation Board.

-Yeah.

0:24:530:24:57

Which they'll probably accept if you've done your City & Guilds, I assume you have.

0:24:570:25:01

Yeah. Is that transferable out here or...?

0:25:010:25:03

It is, but then you still have to sit your regulations exam.

0:25:030:25:07

But how likely would Greg be to find work?

0:25:070:25:10

I would say that a qualified electrician is normally never

0:25:100:25:13

-out of work, a good one is never out of work.

-OK.

0:25:130:25:16

That sounds encouraging.

0:25:160:25:17

Meanwhile across town,

0:25:170:25:19

Jenni is visiting a charity which provides social work services.

0:25:190:25:23

She is met by practice leader Sinnett,

0:25:230:25:25

a South African who recently migrated from the UK.

0:25:250:25:28

How easy did you find it to find a social worker job?

0:25:300:25:32

It depends on what you want to do.

0:25:320:25:35

What I found is, you have much more choice here

0:25:350:25:38

around the kind of social worker you want to be.

0:25:380:25:42

In the UK, it's a lot of child-protection focus.

0:25:420:25:45

Here, it's a lot more focus on early intervention.

0:25:450:25:49

Sinnett tells Jenni settling into Kiwi life isn't difficult.

0:25:490:25:53

Yeah, it's been a good experience.

0:25:530:25:55

I think people in New Zealand are very welcoming.

0:25:550:25:59

My husband had some friends here and they were just very welcoming

0:25:590:26:03

and I've made some really great friends at work.

0:26:030:26:06

That should be reassuring.

0:26:060:26:09

Back at the building site, Greg is getting down to the nitty-gritty

0:26:090:26:12

and asks about Dave's employees' working week.

0:26:120:26:15

-Generally, it's a 40-hour week.

-Yeah.

0:26:160:26:18

But because most of the guys work a nine to ten hour day,

0:26:180:26:22

you can easily knock in 50 hours a week.

0:26:220:26:25

The hours are what he hoped for but what about the bottom line,

0:26:250:26:29

Greg's potential earnings?

0:26:290:26:31

Between the 60s and you could easily go up to the 80 plus.

0:26:310:26:34

That's around £35,000, significantly more than the £25,000

0:26:340:26:39

-he currently earns at home.

-That's good.

0:26:390:26:42

That's a bit more like what I was hoping for.

0:26:420:26:45

Greg is delighted with what he has discovered today,

0:26:450:26:47

but he knows everything now rests on how Jenni fares.

0:26:470:26:50

We need her to be up around the 100,000 mark to make it work for us.

0:26:510:26:56

With the overtime here, we're nestled nicely for myself,

0:26:560:27:00

so if Jen gets what we think she's going to get

0:27:000:27:03

in a managerial position, I think we're on to a winner.

0:27:030:27:07

It's crunch time for Jenni as she meet senior manager Elizabeth Walker.

0:27:070:27:12

So you would come in at a senior practitioner level.

0:27:120:27:15

-Are you interested in the salary range?

-Yes, definitely.

0:27:150:27:20

It's quite a broad range.

0:27:200:27:21

It starts at 53 and moves up to around 63, the mid-60s.

0:27:210:27:26

-Is that New Zealand dollars?

-Yes.

0:27:260:27:27

Even at the top of the bracket,

0:27:300:27:32

Jenni would see her income fall from around £31,000 to £27,000.

0:27:320:27:37

How sought-after are social work roles?

0:27:380:27:41

It has become extremely competitive.

0:27:410:27:44

My last recruitment effort, we had one social work vacancy.

0:27:440:27:48

We had 72 applicants, so it wouldn't be easy,

0:27:480:27:51

but you could secure employment.

0:27:510:27:54

Jenni breaks the bad news when she catches up with Greg later on.

0:27:540:27:58

I wouldn't be earning as much as we thought, basically,

0:27:580:28:01

so that was the kick in the teeth.

0:28:010:28:04

If you came...

0:28:040:28:07

Greg shares what he learned.

0:28:080:28:10

I'd be looking at about 60, 65,000.

0:28:100:28:13

If I did overtime, I'd be looking at around 80,000.

0:28:130:28:16

So actually, in one respect, it's not as good news for me

0:28:160:28:20

but it's much better news for you in terms of finances?

0:28:200:28:23

Yes.

0:28:230:28:25

So, after a day of mixed fortunes, how will the couple vote

0:28:250:28:28

when it comes to work in New Zealand versus the UK?

0:28:280:28:33

So, based on the jobs we've seen today, our vote is...

0:28:330:28:37

-New Zealand.

-New Zealand. Why did you do that?

0:28:420:28:46

Well, I know why you've done it,

0:28:460:28:47

because it was really good news for you.

0:28:470:28:50

Your news actually makes me think, maybe I can be the one

0:28:500:28:53

who works part-time and you can be the one to work full-time.

0:28:530:28:57

I'd have to do a few more hours than I was hoping to

0:28:570:29:00

but we've always done what we have to do to make it work.

0:29:000:29:02

Greg may have had a shaky start to his week

0:29:100:29:13

but a vote for New Zealand from Jenni, despite a drop in salary,

0:29:130:29:17

means his dream could be back on track.

0:29:170:29:20

New Zealand's famed for its family-friendly lifestyle

0:29:200:29:23

so a day sampling some Auckland activities

0:29:230:29:26

could be just what's needed to land another vote in his favour.

0:29:260:29:30

The family kick off the day with a visit to a French market

0:29:350:29:37

in Parnell, just east of the city centre.

0:29:370:29:40

It has been voted one of Auckland's best food markets

0:29:400:29:43

and they're soon tucking in.

0:29:430:29:45

Mozzarella? That's nice.

0:29:470:29:49

It's the kind of family day out

0:29:520:29:54

Greg's hoping will be a regular occurrence.

0:29:540:29:56

Today is going absolutely swimmingly.

0:29:560:29:59

Seeing Evie here in New Zealand

0:29:590:30:00

and how she's been the last couple of days, wow!

0:30:000:30:04

It's just... It's tears of happiness, not sadness,

0:30:040:30:08

but seeing your children happy makes me happy.

0:30:080:30:11

The market is a place Jenni can imagine making a regular haunt.

0:30:120:30:16

Come here, have breakfast, get some fresh produce,

0:30:170:30:21

some wine and champagne to go in our hot tub

0:30:210:30:24

that we're going to have out the back of our house.

0:30:240:30:28

Why am I trying to convince you?

0:30:280:30:30

Are you beginning to change your mind a little bit?

0:30:300:30:32

This is good, it's progress.

0:30:320:30:33

I got my pain au chocolat!

0:30:330:30:35

Next, a trip to Auckland Zoo...

0:30:350:30:37

# We're going to the zoo, zoo, zoo, how about you, you, you? #

0:30:370:30:41

where Evie soon displays her wildlife knowledge.

0:30:410:30:44

Ostrich!

0:30:440:30:46

Penguin!

0:30:460:30:48

Look, zebra!

0:30:480:30:50

Oh, dear me.

0:30:500:30:51

-Giraffe!

-Oh, look!

0:30:510:30:55

Thinking of Evie's future, Jenni's view

0:30:550:30:57

on moving to New Zealand could be softening.

0:30:570:30:59

Evie is loving New Zealand and I think I am starting

0:31:010:31:05

to feel very much that this would be ideal

0:31:050:31:08

for her and for our other child.

0:31:080:31:10

And Greg's beginning to feel confident his wife's coming around.

0:31:100:31:14

As the week's gone on, she's become more and more

0:31:140:31:17

and more sort of towards New Zealand.

0:31:170:31:20

I reckon the dream's still alive.

0:31:200:31:22

I kind of feel it's job almost done, but not quite there.

0:31:220:31:25

I've still got a little bit of apprehension.

0:31:250:31:27

Leaving loved ones though could still be an issue for both Jenni and Greg.

0:31:270:31:31

Mum's kind of been really, really supportive about the whole thing.

0:31:310:31:34

She keeps saying, you know,

0:31:340:31:36

"We're only a day away, worst-case scenario." Wow...

0:31:360:31:40

Um, you know, I need to do what's best for my family

0:31:400:31:43

and ultimately, that's what I need to do.

0:31:430:31:45

It's very easy to get caught up in the whole lifestyle and,

0:31:450:31:48

"Wouldn't this be great, wouldn't this be brilliant for us

0:31:480:31:51

"and for Evie," and, um...

0:31:510:31:53

But I've not yet really started to think about the impact

0:31:530:31:56

of leaving family and friends.

0:31:560:31:58

Thoughts of friends and family aside, it has been a fun day out.

0:32:000:32:05

So has the lifestyle in New Zealand proved a winner for Greg and Jenni?

0:32:050:32:10

Cast your vote!

0:32:100:32:12

-New Zealand!

-New Zealand!

0:32:200:32:22

-New Zealand!

-Good girl!

-Yay!

0:32:220:32:24

I voted New Zealand cos look at the day we've had.

0:32:240:32:27

It's been relaxing and peaceful.

0:32:270:32:29

We've not been constantly worrying about the weather,

0:32:290:32:31

even though we're in autumn, nearly winter over here.

0:32:310:32:34

-And it's not been too costly.

-It's a good feeling

0:32:340:32:37

but I was kind of 99.99% sure we were all going to...

0:32:370:32:41

-Enjoy the lifestyle.

-We can't fault this, can we?

-Can't fault it.

0:32:410:32:44

It's beautiful.

0:32:440:32:46

With two votes from Jenni for New Zealand, Greg's dream could be

0:32:500:32:53

within his reach.

0:32:530:32:55

But if it's to stand any chance of becoming a reality,

0:32:550:32:58

it's vital the finances stack up.

0:32:580:33:00

The couple feel their house in the UK is worth around £110,000.

0:33:020:33:06

To find out if they're right, we've sent round two estate agents.

0:33:060:33:10

Nice open plan living space. Neutrally decorated.

0:33:100:33:14

And nice windows that overlook the garden.

0:33:140:33:17

So, the kitchen looks well looked after

0:33:170:33:19

and also nice and modern as well.

0:33:190:33:22

So, it's a nice low-maintenance garden

0:33:220:33:24

with the access out to rear parking.

0:33:240:33:27

Good-size bathroom and again, another contemporary look.

0:33:270:33:30

I've fixed the bath now!

0:33:300:33:33

And this is a great-size second bedroom.

0:33:330:33:36

-My bedroom!

-That's your bedroom, isn't it?

0:33:360:33:39

-Another good-size double bedroom.

-That's yours and Daddy's!

0:33:390:33:43

And a cat. Hello!

0:33:430:33:46

THEY LAUGH

0:33:460:33:48

In today's market,

0:33:480:33:50

I would value this property at a guide price of 110-120,000.

0:33:500:33:54

For a quick sale, I'd value the property at 105,000.

0:33:540:33:56

In today's market, I would value this house at around about 110,000.

0:33:580:34:02

If the owners wanted a quick sale,

0:34:020:34:04

then I would suggest a price between 100 and 105.

0:34:040:34:07

-That's exactly what I kind of anticipated.

-Yeah.

0:34:070:34:10

-I'm not shocked at all.

-No shock.

-I'm quite happy with that.

0:34:100:34:12

I'm quite happy with that as well.

0:34:120:34:14

With their valuations on target, the couple to move on to examine

0:34:140:34:17

how their finances would fare in New Zealand.

0:34:170:34:20

Do you want to do the honours, or shall I?

0:34:200:34:22

We've provided a comparison of costs, starting with the weekly food shop.

0:34:220:34:27

-Ketchup, 1.23.

-We knew that was dear the other day.

0:34:270:34:30

-I nearly fell over in the supermarket.

-Meatballs, £2.

0:34:300:34:33

She's not going to be having them any more.

0:34:330:34:37

Which means it's £57.27 dearer.

0:34:370:34:40

£250 more per month would double what the family currently spend on food.

0:34:400:34:45

But Greg's not daunted.

0:34:450:34:47

It's more, but it's not terrible, is it?

0:34:470:34:51

Well, we need to put it into context with wages.

0:34:510:34:54

So, what about the bigger bills?

0:34:540:34:57

Greg and Jenni based their sums on the dream house they saw.

0:34:570:35:00

That's just jumped straight out at me,

0:35:000:35:02

the cost of the mortgage, compared to at home.

0:35:020:35:05

-Yeah.

-That's...

0:35:050:35:07

-That's a biggie.

-Phone/internet, £20 at home...

-Yeah.

0:35:070:35:12

£40 here, so that's minus 20.

0:35:120:35:14

-What's the difference? £1,796.

-Yeah.

0:35:170:35:20

In total, the couple discover they'd be spending

0:35:220:35:25

around £1,800 per month more in New Zealand.

0:35:250:35:28

It's going to go down to wage, because if that was our UK wage,

0:35:280:35:31

we couldn't afford to live here, could we?

0:35:310:35:33

-We've not got £1,796 a month spare.

-No.

0:35:330:35:37

The figures don't look good,

0:35:370:35:39

and taking their potential wages into account only improves them slightly.

0:35:390:35:44

-So we're £654...

-Worse off.

0:35:440:35:46

The couple would be almost £8,000 a year worse off if they made the move.

0:35:490:35:53

But whilst Jenni isn't impressed, Greg's not giving up.

0:35:530:35:57

I don't think that's bad.

0:35:570:35:59

-That's on what we call our dream home mortgage.

-So basically,

0:35:590:36:03

we would have to go for a house which was like property one or two.

0:36:030:36:07

Yeah, but it wouldn't be forever, would it?

0:36:070:36:11

Making sacrifices on a home in the short term would undoubtedly help.

0:36:110:36:16

But as the couple take their vote on finances in New Zealand versus

0:36:160:36:19

the UK, is the compromise one they'd both be happy to make?

0:36:190:36:23

Based on today's reality check, our vote goes to...

0:36:230:36:27

-UK.

-UK.

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-Are you a bit gutted about that?

-Massively.

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We probably could still make it work financially,

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but I think it would be more of a struggle.

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I'm not going to lie, after seeing that, I am questioning myself.

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That's massive for me.

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While New Zealand's lifestyle has been everything Greg remembered,

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achieving the life he dreams of would require significant compromises.

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But it's perhaps the emotional cost of emigrating

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which could prove the biggest barrier to a move.

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As Evie is looked after by a childminder,

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the couple sit down to watch messages from home.

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Hi, Jenni, hi, Greg.

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I hope you're having a wonderful time in New Zealand.

0:37:170:37:20

-Hi, Jenni, Greg.

-Hello, Auntie Jenni and Uncle Greg.

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Hiya, guys. I hope you've had a good week.

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On the whole, they seem to be a match made in heaven.

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Hilarious is the word to me that sums Jenni up.

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She's got a lot of friends, she's sociable, she's popular.

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Independent, principled, loyal.

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He is very much a family man.

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Family is really important.

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Evie's a really bubbly little girl.

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Um... She's really good friends with my daughter.

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-And they work together well.

-Evie is my granddaughter.

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I do spoil her.

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But if they go, I'll miss her.

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If they left, I think it would leave

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a big hole in everybody's life, not just in mine.

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Obviously, yeah, it would be a massive wrench,

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because you've got my mum and dad, then you've got me and Jenni.

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The family, essentially, would be halved,

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because my sister's gone, so it would just be me and my kids.

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You make a decision based on

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what you think is best for you and your family.

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We'll always love you and we will always be here for you.

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We'll all really miss you

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and we'll miss the times that we spend together,

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we'll miss seeing Evie grow up

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and we know that all your other friends will feel the same.

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But you've got to do what's right for you.

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I hope that you make the right decisions that suit you

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and don't worry too much about us here,

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because we'll be on the next plane if there's anything wrong.

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You know that I love you, you know that I support you.

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I'll come visit!

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But please, make the decision which is right for you.

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It's really making me question whether I've got the guts to, er,

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to go through with it.

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We have to make what decision we think's best for our family,

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and that means that we are going to have to be very selfish

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when we make that decision and not think about others,

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because I think if we thought about others,

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the answer would very clearly be, no, we're not going.

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Ever since he last set foot in the country years ago,

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Greg has been desperate to make a permanent return to New Zealand.

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All week, he's been on a mission to persuade wife Jenni to make

0:39:490:39:53

the move, but messages from home may now have given him pause for thought.

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So, where will the Wallens decide their future lies?

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Touching down again in New Zealand, Greg was hoping the country

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would live up to his bachelor-day memories, and it hasn't let him down.

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I knew it was going to be good, but I think it's far better,

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from a lifestyle and living perspective.

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It's infinitely better,

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in my opinion, than what we would have back in the UK.

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And despite her initial reluctance,

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a taste of what New Zealand could offer has also appealed to Jenni.

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The experience I've had this week that has won me over the most is...

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is the lifestyle.

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But the couple's week has also shown the reality of life

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in New Zealand wasn't everything Greg had envisaged.

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I'm not going to lie, I thought we would fare a lot better than we did.

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Then you get here on the first day and obviously, hence why

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I got a bit upset, you're looking at your first house and thinking...

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it's going to come in over your budget,

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and it's not at all what you want or would expect from our house.

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He is having to come to terms with the fact that things

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aren't as picture-perfect as he initially thought out here.

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And he's struggling to come to terms with leaving family behind.

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The most emotional part of the week, for me, was seeing my family.

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I know that...

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HE SIGHS

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I know that I need to make the decision for my family.

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But, you know...

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..I kind of care about everyone else as well.

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Um...

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With their final vote inching closer,

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the couple are wrestling with conflicting emotions.

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It has been difficult, because I'm arguing with myself,

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I can feel an internal conflict of arguing with myself over it.

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I'm playing with the rest of my family's life, you know,

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I'm not going to dance around it, it's...

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..harder than the decision I took to ask Jen to marry me.

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It's harder than the decision I took to take on Evie as my own child.

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It's time to decide where the family's future lies.

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Will Jenni greenlight Greg's dream?

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And will he decide breaking bonds at home is a price worth paying

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to achieve the lifestyle he wants?

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We've had a fabulous week here in New Zealand and our vote goes to...

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-..New Zealand.

-New Zealand.

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No!

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What made you do that?

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There's some negatives, but there's also a lot of positives.

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I think that we've got to give it a try,

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because I think otherwise, we'll always be wondering, what if?

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So, I think we need to come and give it a try.

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This is all my birthdays, all my Christmases,

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everything I've wanted, since I came back.

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It's a great result for Greg - with Jenni signing up to the move,

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he should be on his way back to New Zealand soon.

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We hope the Wallens go on to make many happy memories together

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as they embark on their new life on the other side of the world.

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