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After years of working towards it,

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the pieces are finally

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falling into place

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to allow you to jet off to a new life in the sun.

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There's just one last thing you need to do -

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persuade the love of your life to join you.

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Kelly van Koningsveld longs to call Australia home...

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This is a dream that I've wanted for a very long time.

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..but partner Gary is more than happy in Wales.

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I am a homebird. Everything and one I know is in Caerphilly.

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Unable to agree,

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Kelly's hopes to emigrate are putting their future on the line.

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If Gary doesn't like it,

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we do need to consider where our relationship goes from here.

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So, will a trial week down under be enough to secure Kelly the life

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she wants and keep Gary by her side?

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Now I'm deciding whether I'm going to be part of Kelly's dream,

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or whether it's something she may be undertaking on her own.

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With more than a quarter of its population born overseas,

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Australia is consistently ranked

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in the world's top ten countries to live.

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Latest figures show over 34,000 UK residents move there every year,

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but it isn't utopia for everyone.

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Of those that take the plunge, over half will return home.

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For the last three years,

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Kelly van Koningsveld has been working tirelessly towards swapping

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the home comforts of Wales for a life less ordinary in Australia.

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As it currently stands, though, moving to the land

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she's fallen for would mean leaving the man of her dreams.

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So, given just one week, can Kelly convince partner Gary to

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join her for a new life on the other side of the world?

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The couple's trip to Australia begins with an arduous 17.5 hours

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in the skies, flying from London to Perth via Dubai.

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But Kelly's taken the travelling in her stride.

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I really enjoyed it.

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It didn't seem as long as I thought it was going to be.

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It was really good.

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She's thrilled to have made it down under for the first time.

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I'm really, really happy to be here, excited for the week ahead.

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For Gary, the journey has already left him questioning

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moving so far from home.

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This is the furthest flight I've ever done by about 14 hours.

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I think it's going to take a bit more persuasion

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than I first thought.

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And he doesn't share Kelly's elation about his new surroundings.

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It still seems a bit surreal.

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I'm not so excited at the moment,

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just interested to see what's to come, I think.

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But Kelly is determined to win him round.

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I want to show him that life can be better in Australia,

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and I think this week's going to do it,

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and I will work hard to try and do it.

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As the couple head out into Perth, they know their relationship

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could be on the rocks if things don't go according to Kelly's plan.

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Back in the UK, Kelly van Koningsveld and Gary Evans

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live in Caerphilly in South Wales.

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-ALL:

-Yay!

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The couple have built a solid relationship

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since meeting at a punk gig three years ago,

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despite their contrasting take on life.

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# Go, Gary, go, Gary! #

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I want to experience new things all the time,

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I want to meet new people,

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I love being outside my comfort zone.

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I am a homebird. Everything and one I know is in Caerphilly.

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-You're...

-Quite happy.

-..quite happy where you are.

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Plodding. I can't plod.

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All right!

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-I wish you would sometimes.

-Yeah.

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LAUGHTER

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At the core of Kelly's appetite for adventure is a feeling of wanderlust.

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As much as Wales is a beautiful country and it does offer the hiking

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and the mountains that I love, I've never really felt settled.

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A few months after meeting, Kelly told Gary about her dream

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to live in Australia despite never having been.

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He didn't give it much thought

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until she announced she was giving up her job to do a degree

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in social work, after hearing it was a sought-after profession down under.

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I think that was really the point where

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I realised how deadly serious she was.

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It was like a golden ticket into Australia, I was like,

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"That's the one that can get me in."

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And I had the experience, so it was like a no-brainer to me really.

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Now qualified and with cousins

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already living in Perth, Kelly's ready to make

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the move, and she has a clear vision of what life would be like there.

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A lovely job, outdoors all of the time.

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I would sleep outdoors if I could.

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And just such a nice, relaxed way of life.

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You don't have to plan things, then thinking,

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"I can't do this now, because of the weather."

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That is my kind of dream.

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Unfortunately, Gary has a very different point of view.

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I've just got so much more to think about than just

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being able to wake up with the sun shining through the curtains.

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For him, the idea of walking away from everything

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they know is mind-boggling.

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Caerphilly is a close-knit community,

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so you will often bump into people who you know.

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The thought of being somewhere where you know nobody,

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that is a scary thought, definitely.

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Food's ready!

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Having worked in the same place for almost 13 years, he's terrified

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at the prospect of risking his career for the completely unknown.

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I cannot imagine quitting my job to go and try and find another job...

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in this country, never mind the other side of the world.

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He also feels guilty at the thought of

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breaking emotional bonds with family

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and the close group of friends he's grown up with.

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It would definitely be difficult to leave the group of friends

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that I do have now. To start a brand-new group of friends,

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I can't quite get my head around the whole...

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Just being able to do it, where would you start?

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After much discussion,

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the couple are unable to agree on where their future lies, and now face

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some incredibly difficult decisions about where they go from here.

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I love you to bits.

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I'd just be devastated if we did finish

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over where we lived.

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I obviously want you to come, but I really don't want you to be unhappy.

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And if that means you staying, that would mean more to me

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than you being with me and miserable.

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I guess.

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Longing to live the life she dreams of,

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the week ahead will be Kelly's best opportunity to convince Gary

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to leave his comfort zone for a future with her, far from Wales.

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I think there's quite a lot of pressure on me

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to overcome all my fears and concerns...

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..for it to work.

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It's decision time. He's realising now how real it all is.

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And he can't bury his head any longer.

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For their trial week down under, the couple are visiting

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the city of Perth in Western Australia, where even

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in the winter, daily temperatures rarely dip below 18 degrees.

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Their temporary home is in Warnbro,

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a coastal suburb 40 minutes' drive from the city centre.

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But will this two-storey house live up to Kelly's image

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of Australian living?

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-Gorgeous, isn't it?

-Yeah. It's going to be amazing.

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Hopefully, inside will prove Kelly right.

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Here we go, first step inside.

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-Looks lovely, doesn't it?

-Oh, yeah, wow.

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Split over two floors, the main living accommodation is upstairs.

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-Upside-down house.

-Yeah, it's nice.

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Look at that view. Oh, absolutely fantastic.

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Making their way onto the balcony,

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the couple are delighted with the beach-side location.

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-It's stunning, isn't it?

-This is an amazing base for the week.

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And a further look around inside confirms the house

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has everything they need.

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Guessing this is the main bedroom.

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-Massive. And an en suite.

-I actually can't believe it.

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Yeah, it's huge, absolutely huge.

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It's a great start to the week, and so far,

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the country is proving even better than Kelly thought.

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My first impression of Australia - absolutely amazing.

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It's exceeded my expectations.

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Gary knows how much Kelly wants Australia to be their destiny.

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But it'll take more than sea views to convince him it's the right move.

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I need to see that I can afford to live out here, get the work,

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and that I can overcome the issues with moving to

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the other side of the world, basically.

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The week ahead will hopefully lay Gary's concerns to rest,

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securing Kelly the future she wants and keeping Gary by her side.

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This is a very big week. One of the biggest weeks of my life, I guess.

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A lot can change now in the next four, five days.

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Our whole relationship rides on this week.

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If Gary doesn't want to come, or he doesn't like it,

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then we do need to kind of consider

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where our relationship goes from here.

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In the UK, the couple live with

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Kelly's family in Caerphilly, South Wales.

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Kelly hopes their first home together will be in Australia.

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Initially planning to rent,

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their budget would be £850 per calendar month.

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And she knows exactly what she'd like for her money.

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Definitely needs to have a spare room, maybe two.

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Kind of semi-rural, not too...

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Yeah, we don't want to be too out in the sticks.

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Not too inner city, I'm not really a city slicker.

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Ideally, a beach would be amazing nearby.

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Ultimately, though, the only deal-breaker for Kelly

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is a pool in the garden.

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..second job for a pool!

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To find out what kind of house they could actually have in Australia,

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today we'll show Gary and Kelly three properties -

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two on budget and a third which could be their dream home.

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Only after they've seen each one will they find out its value.

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First up, the couple head 40 minutes south of Perth

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to the city of Rockingham.

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Beachfront restaurants and a range of bars

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and shops promise an excellent quality of life

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close to the ocean, which could be perfect for Kelly.

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-Next one up, is it?

-It looks nice, doesn't it?

-Yeah, it does look nice.

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But will this four-bedroom house be what they had in mind?

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-Quite big.

-It is quite big. I wasn't expecting a double garage.

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Hopefully, inside will exceed Gary's expectations too.

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See what it's going to be like.

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-This is nice.

-Straight into a small living room, Gary is not so sure.

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This is cosy if this is the main sitting room.

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-It can't be, there's no TV.

-It's rather small.

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Kelly, on the other hand, is happy with what she sees.

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I think I'm going to like it all,

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because I'm just being a bit biased with it.

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At least she's honest!

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But the master bedroom with in-built storage has genuine appeal.

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Oh, walk-in dressing room, yes!

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GARY LAUGHS

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This will be able to fit my clothes.

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-Just what I've always wanted(!)

-Yeah!

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Do I detect sarcasm, Gary? Moving on, a spacious en-suite bathroom.

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-Much roomier than what you get at home, isn't it?

-Yeah, I think so.

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Loads of room.

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The main kitchen/living area

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is modern, bright and typically open-plan.

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That's exactly what I was looking for.

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But would it entice Gary to the other side of the world?

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I could see myself wanting to live somewhere like this.

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That's good news for Kelly,

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and the generous outside space could help her case for moving even more.

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-It's huge.

-It is nice, isn't it?

-Yeah, really like that.

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It doesn't have a pool, but with facilities

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and space for outside dining, Kelly can see Gary fitting right in.

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-Cos you love barbecues.

-Mmm.

-You're a barbecue beast.

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It's perfect, I suppose.

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Gary could be buying into Aussie property easier than Kelly thought.

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Encouraged, the couple head back indoors to explore

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the rest of the house.

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-What is it, a spare room?

-What would this be for?

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Gary spots potential for a man cave, but Kelly's not buying it.

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I don't believe in man caves.

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GARY LAUGHS

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You're supposed to be trying to sell this to me.

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You should be agreeing to these terms.

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Yeah, but I don't want to put you on a false footing!

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Thinking you can have a man cave, cos you ain't.

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Moving on, the family bathroom isn't made-to-measure.

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Look how titchy the bath is!

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-That's tiny.

-It's titch.

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You don't like baths anyway, it's probably too hot to take baths.

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Kelly's giving it the hard sell and Gary doesn't look convinced,

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but the couple are still interested to find out

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the cost of living in a house like this.

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I think it's going to be over what we can afford.

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Mm, about £1,200 a month?

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-I think a bit higher than that.

-Do you?

-Yeah.

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-1,350. 1,400.

-Do you?

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I think so, yeah.

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-Their budget for rent every month is £850.

-Here we go.

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Shut up!

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Oh, God.

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I really wasn't expecting that.

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Just £35 over budget.

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Oh, my God.

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-That's manageable.

-Shut up, I can't believe that.

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You could never get anything like this...

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No way. I'm well impressed with that.

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-I know.

-Well impressed.

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Gary wasn't sold on the bathroom,

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but the price hasn't pulled the plug on the potential for a move.

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Hopefully, the next property will be even better.

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To find out, the couple travel further south to

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the coastal location of Port Kennedy.

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With excellent public transport links,

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this is a popular place for commuters wanting to escape the hustle

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and bustle of the city, which should make it perfect for Gary and Kelly.

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Let's have a look.

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But will this four-bedroom house in a quiet cul-de-sac be enough to

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make Gary commit to moving?

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-I'm not as impressed from the outside.

-No?

-No.

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Hopefully, inside will be more favourable.

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Oh.

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-What's that wall for?

-I don't know,

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that's a bit strange, isn't it?

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It's not a great start,

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and Gary's not sold on the spacious living area either.

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Just find it really awkward.

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Like, you've got the sofa there, the TV there,

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-what would you do with...?

-That kind of open space.

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It's not really like a dining area.

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It is big, though.

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Kelly's trying to stay positive but it seems less is more with Gary.

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I'm not loving this.

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-No?

-No.

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And the issue with too much space continues elsewhere.

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-The master bedroom, is it?

-Yeah, that's a nice size.

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-It is, isn't it?

-Yeah.

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But again, what do you do with all that? You don't need that much...

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nothing space, do you?

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Kelly looks dejected, but when they move into the kitchen,

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things look a bit more encouraging.

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I like this, I really like this part.

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It's nice, it's open.

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-But...

-I wouldn't move to the other side of the world

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to live in this house, I don't think.

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The house isn't helping Kelly's argument for moving,

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and when they go outside, the garden proves...

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Disappointing.

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-Yeah.

-I think it's fine up until...

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-..there.

-KELLY LAUGHS

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-Yeah.

-And this is it.

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It doesn't have the pool Kelly dreams of, but it's Gary

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who's really struggling to see himself living here.

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If you came and lived somewhere like this,

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I do think you may only have to worry about a single bed.

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I'm sure he doesn't mean that, Kelly. Back inside, another small bathroom.

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They've got a bigger bath, a big normal-sized bath.

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But the decor does little to impress Gary.

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-It's another room I'm...

-Not blown away by.

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..I'm not blown away by.

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Quite the opposite.

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It might not be somewhere Gary wants to call home,

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but with £850 for rent every month,

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Kelly is still curious to find out the price tag for a place like this.

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I reckon...700? 750?

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-Yeah, I'd like to think even less than that. Ready?

-Yes.

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GARY EXHALES AND LAUGHS

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I wouldn't be happy upping sticks

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and moving to the other side of the world to pay £864 a month on this.

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Gary's lack of enthusiasm is a real blow for Kelly.

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Hopefully the final property of the day will get him

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more excited about a potential future down under.

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It's situated in Baldivis,

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a semi-rural area 35 minutes south of Perth.

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15 minutes from the beach, this growing suburb with

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a small-town feel should be a perfect fit for Kelly.

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We've found what could be their dream home,

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but will it be enough to keep Kelly and Gary united?

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Let's go and have a look.

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-It's really, really nice.

-Yeah, this has definitely got...

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-The wow factor straightaway.

-..the wow factor from outside.

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-Looks promising, hopefully inside will be too.

-Wow.

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Oh! Whoa.

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Natural colours and warm timbers have been used to give

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a luxurious feel throughout, and the couple look lost for words.

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HE LAUGHS

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-I'm actually speechless.

-Yeah, I'm a bit speechless.

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I've never lived anywhere this grand.

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So is it somewhere Gary could see himself settling?

0:17:390:17:42

-I love it.

-Mm.

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-Can you imagine yourself living in something like this?

-Yes.

0:17:430:17:47

-You can?

-Yes.

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It's an encouraging start for Kelly, and when she clocks the views

0:17:500:17:54

from the state-of-the-art kitchen, her imagination goes into overdrive.

0:17:540:17:58

Oh, my God!

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THEY LAUGH

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Shut up, like!

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You would just cook your stuff, watch people in the pool.

0:18:030:18:06

At last, the pool Kelly has dreamed of.

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That is absolutely stunning.

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And moving outside for a better look,

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the couple discover plenty of room for relaxing in the sunshine too.

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This outside bit here totally ticks every box for me.

0:18:180:18:21

There's nothing else that you could ask for.

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This is exactly why I would want to move over here.

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I'd find it hard to say no to something like this as well.

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Kelly and Gary's future together looks a lot more promising,

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and back inside, four spacious bedrooms.

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-Ho-ho!

-There's a nice master bedroom as well.

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Massive master bedroom.

0:18:390:18:40

The luxurious en suite is anything but shabby.

0:18:420:18:45

Two showers? Shut up.

0:18:450:18:48

-This is, eh...

-It looks amazing.

0:18:480:18:51

-It's brilliant, that, isn't it?

-This is hotel spec, isn't it?

0:18:510:18:54

With access to the swimming pool, it's everything Kelly dreamt of.

0:18:540:18:59

Every box you could think of ticking has been ticked.

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And she soon discovers there's even a few extras.

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Oh, it's a hair...salon!

0:19:040:19:07

-I was not expecting that when I walked through.

-Oh, my word!

0:19:070:19:11

It's no ordinary home, so the couple are keen to find out how much

0:19:140:19:18

the dream house would set them back.

0:19:180:19:20

I reckon it's going to be about...

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two grand.

0:19:220:19:23

-Now I've seen this house, I want this house.

-I know.

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So will the couple's £850 budget for rent every month be enough

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to make Gary's wishes come true?

0:19:310:19:33

-Ready?

-Yep.

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-No way!

-What?!

0:19:400:19:42

-No...

-£969 a month?

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It's almost £120 over budget, but with the right jobs,

0:19:460:19:51

the house could be more affordable than they thought.

0:19:510:19:54

-Shut up. I cannot believe...

-I can't believe that that's...

0:19:540:19:59

A grand, honest to God, I can't believe that.

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You get a pool, you get all that, you get five million rooms...

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for a grand!

0:20:060:20:07

GARY LAUGHS

0:20:070:20:09

I can't actually believe it.

0:20:090:20:11

It's been a great end to house-hunting for Gary and Kelly.

0:20:110:20:15

Property one had the space the couple wanted inside and out,

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but it didn't have the pool Kelly desires.

0:20:190:20:21

The interiors of property two failed to impress Gary,

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and although close to budget,

0:20:260:20:27

the price wasn't enough to change his mind.

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But the final property of the day was an instant hit,

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boasting modern, luxurious interiors

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and the pool of Kelly's dreams.

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At just £119 over budget, the house was well within reach.

0:20:380:20:43

So has today done enough to help Kelly persuade Gary to choose

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property in Australia over the UK?

0:20:490:20:51

I think it's a good time to vote.

0:20:520:20:53

-Australia.

-Australia.

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Yes, I knew you would.

0:21:050:21:07

That last house, when we turned over and saw the actual price,

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and realised that it was within our reach, it was then an easy decision.

0:21:100:21:15

I am really excited that you have voted Australia.

0:21:150:21:18

It means one less thing to have to battle you with.

0:21:180:21:21

-Yeah, the war is still on.

-Yeah, one battle is done!

0:21:210:21:24

GARY CHUCKLES

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The dream property really captured Gary's heart, putting him

0:21:320:21:36

a step closer to agreeing to the move.

0:21:360:21:38

Ultimately though, Kelly knows he needs to be

0:21:380:21:41

assured he can find work

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if she is to succeed in her campaign to conquer his resistance.

0:21:420:21:46

Back in the UK, Kelly gave up a well-paid job with

0:21:480:21:51

the youth offending service to further her qualifications

0:21:510:21:54

in a bid to gain a visa for down under.

0:21:540:21:56

With the experience and the background I had,

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I chose to apply for the social work degree to get me into Australia.

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Working for Her Majesty's revenue and Customs for the past 12 years,

0:22:060:22:10

Gary was recently promoted to a role within

0:22:100:22:12

the VAT compliance office.

0:22:120:22:14

I do love it, it is a great bunch of boys that I work with.

0:22:160:22:19

The work is interesting, so yeah, I am happy where I am at the moment.

0:22:190:22:23

Recently qualified, Kelly is confident there will be opportunities

0:22:230:22:26

for her down under, so it is Gary's work prospects that really matter.

0:22:260:22:31

I think employment is going to be the tipping point as to

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whether I will even consider going there or not.

0:22:340:22:38

Discovering work prospects in Perth will be crucial in

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keeping the couple together.

0:22:450:22:47

We have arranged for Kelly to meet Mark Burgess,

0:22:470:22:49

a general manager at a non-governmental organisation

0:22:490:22:52

that helps offenders become law-abiding members of the community.

0:22:520:22:57

-Hi, Kelly.

-Hello.

-Welcome.

0:22:570:22:59

-How about we just head upstairs and go for a quick chat?

-Okey doke.

0:22:590:23:02

The company provide support for a wide variety of clients.

0:23:020:23:06

Kelly is keen to check how her qualifications

0:23:060:23:09

will translate down under.

0:23:090:23:11

I've just finished the social work degree back in the UK,

0:23:110:23:14

can I use it straight away?

0:23:140:23:15

The degree allows you membership to

0:23:150:23:17

the Australian Association of Social Workers, and there are a number

0:23:170:23:20

of roles available for graduate social workers.

0:23:200:23:23

That is really positive.

0:23:230:23:24

The day is off to a great start for Kelly.

0:23:240:23:27

Hopefully, Gary will be in demand too.

0:23:270:23:31

To find out, he is meeting

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recruitment specialist Claire Lindley.

0:23:320:23:34

Hi, Gary, I am Claire from Randstad, nice to meet you.

0:23:340:23:37

Gary is keen to talk business.

0:23:370:23:39

Back home I have got a fairly well-paid job,

0:23:390:23:41

I am just wondering whether my skills are transferable.

0:23:410:23:44

Certainly, in the Perth market,

0:23:440:23:45

they would be skills that would be transferable here.

0:23:450:23:48

Compliance is an area that people are even more so

0:23:480:23:51

looking for experience.

0:23:510:23:53

Right, that is good, because both of the roles

0:23:530:23:55

I have played have been partly compliance-based.

0:23:550:23:57

Knowing his skills are transferable should be comforting for Gary,

0:23:570:24:01

but he is still nervous about how long

0:24:010:24:03

it would take to find suitable work.

0:24:030:24:05

Would you say it would be something that you would get a job

0:24:050:24:07

quickly in, or is it always a struggle to try

0:24:070:24:09

and get onto the employment ladder?

0:24:090:24:11

People with good skills and experience who are willing to

0:24:110:24:13

-work will always do well in this market.

-Oh, that's good.

0:24:130:24:17

Gary is getting the answers he needs so far.

0:24:170:24:19

Meanwhile, across town,

0:24:200:24:22

Kelly is keen to find out about a typical working week in Australia.

0:24:220:24:26

Monday to Friday, 9 to 5 roles,

0:24:270:24:29

you really do have a nice opportunity for a work/life balance.

0:24:290:24:33

That is fantastic, that is absolutely fantastic.

0:24:330:24:35

All that is left to find out now

0:24:350:24:37

is how much Kelly could earn as a newly-qualified social worker.

0:24:370:24:40

Working for a non-government agency,

0:24:400:24:42

you would be looking at a salary range of £31,000-£33,000 per year.

0:24:420:24:47

In a government department,

0:24:470:24:48

you would be looking at a salary range of £34,000-£39,000 per year.

0:24:480:24:52

That is really positive. I am currently on £31,000,

0:24:520:24:55

so I would be coming in on a very similar salary.

0:24:550:24:58

If it was government, that is an increase in the salary,

0:24:580:25:01

so that is fantastic news.

0:25:010:25:02

Kelly's meeting has confirmed she can have the career she has worked

0:25:020:25:06

so hard for down under.

0:25:060:25:09

Meanwhile, Claire recommends Gary gets a feel for the local job market

0:25:090:25:12

by doing temporary work before applying for permanent roles.

0:25:120:25:16

The market here is very project-based.

0:25:160:25:18

So many people do well out of casual work.

0:25:180:25:21

Then the salary for that would be roughly £27,000 a year.

0:25:210:25:24

It is definitely I think an eye-opener,

0:25:240:25:27

and I wasn't expecting...

0:25:270:25:29

Maybe the casual work here is equal to,

0:25:290:25:31

if not better, what I am currently on in the UK.

0:25:310:25:34

The potential to earn around £3,000 more doing casual work

0:25:340:25:38

has left Gary in a bit of a quandary.

0:25:380:25:41

Would I leave a steady job with the risk

0:25:410:25:43

of just a temporary contract?

0:25:430:25:45

Although landing a temporary contract would put me

0:25:450:25:48

on more money than I would be on back in the UK.

0:25:480:25:51

When the couple get together to discuss their findings, Kelly is

0:25:510:25:55

most interested in hearing how Gary got on

0:25:550:25:57

with the recruitment consultant.

0:25:570:25:59

So how did it go?

0:25:590:26:00

She did leave me with a couple of jobs, but it would be a case

0:26:000:26:03

of moving to do casual work until something, I guess, would come up.

0:26:030:26:07

Even the casual and temporary work,

0:26:070:26:10

I would probably go into a job where I would be on, like,

0:26:100:26:12

Great British pounds, £25-£27,000 a year.

0:26:120:26:16

-That's more than...

-So a higher salary.

0:26:160:26:18

Time to find out if the potential to earn a higher salary

0:26:220:26:25

would be enough to persuade Gary to choose work in Australia over the UK.

0:26:250:26:29

-Australia.

-Australia...just.

0:26:350:26:37

-Oh, that's good.

-Not expecting that?

0:26:370:26:39

No, I wasn't expecting that at all.

0:26:390:26:41

I do have to have a long, hard think, but the thought of being able

0:26:410:26:44

-to afford the dream house is, at the moment, swaying me.

-That's good.

0:26:440:26:48

But only just.

0:26:480:26:50

So far, Kelly's week has gone better than she could ever have hoped,

0:26:570:27:02

with Gary sold on housing and reassured

0:27:020:27:05

by his employment prospects down under.

0:27:050:27:08

An avid fan of active pursuits at home,

0:27:080:27:10

could a taste of the outdoor Australian lifestyle

0:27:100:27:14

Kelly longs to share with him be just what is needed to bring him

0:27:140:27:17

another step closer to leaving the home comforts of Wales behind?

0:27:170:27:22

The couple start their day with a short ferry ride

0:27:250:27:28

from the Port of Fremantle to Rottnest Island.

0:27:280:27:30

It's a bit choppy, isn't it? How long do you think the journey is?

0:27:320:27:36

Five minutes, hopefully.

0:27:360:27:38

Sailing over the Indian Ocean, the crossing takes just under

0:27:390:27:43

an hour, and Kelly is relieved to finally disembark.

0:27:430:27:46

-Glad to get feet on land?

-EXHALING:

-Yeah.

0:27:460:27:49

HE LAUGHS

0:27:490:27:51

I'm not a sea mammal.

0:27:510:27:52

The island is believed to have separated from the mainland

0:27:550:27:57

over 7000 years ago, and Kelly and Gary are keen to do some exploring.

0:27:570:28:02

It is boiling.

0:28:030:28:05

It's nice though, it is

0:28:050:28:06

better than walking in the rain with your waterproofs

0:28:060:28:09

-and all that on.

-Yeah.

0:28:090:28:11

The couple are keen hikers back in the UK,

0:28:120:28:15

but the weather conditions here are very different, and as they

0:28:150:28:18

take in the scenery, Kelly points out a few more differences from home.

0:28:180:28:22

Caerphilly wouldn't have this, would it?

0:28:220:28:24

No, but then you've got the Brecon Beacons and...

0:28:240:28:27

Yeah, you do, but this would be kind of doorstep material rather

0:28:270:28:31

than having to do a bit of a trek.

0:28:310:28:33

Drive up for it.

0:28:330:28:34

Gary is staying loyal to his homeland,

0:28:350:28:37

but Kelly soon spots something they definitely wouldn't find in Wales.

0:28:370:28:42

Look.

0:28:420:28:43

Oh, this is amazing. I would move here just for you!

0:28:430:28:47

The island is home to around 10,000 quokkas.

0:28:470:28:50

KELLY GIGGLES

0:28:500:28:51

But Gary is less impressed at becoming mates with a marsupial.

0:28:510:28:56

-They're like big, fat rats with cute faces.

-TO QUOKKA:

-Come on!

0:28:560:28:59

KELLY SMACKS HER LIPS AND THEY BOTH LAUGH

0:29:000:29:03

Moving on, the couple make the steep climb to one of the island's

0:29:070:29:10

best vantage points.

0:29:100:29:12

Eesh.

0:29:120:29:13

Nice.

0:29:140:29:16

The views are worth the effort,

0:29:160:29:18

and the day could be changing Gary's outlook on the move.

0:29:180:29:20

This is kind of what I was expecting,

0:29:200:29:22

can't really argue with it,

0:29:220:29:23

-it is just totally different to what we are used to, isn't it?

-Yeah.

0:29:230:29:26

But it has also set Kelly thinking about the reality of moving

0:29:260:29:29

so far from home on her own,

0:29:290:29:31

and reminds her of how much this experience means to them.

0:29:310:29:35

It wouldn't be the same without Gary with me.

0:29:350:29:38

I'm hoping that today will have shown him the lifestyle

0:29:380:29:43

and that can outweigh the finances, outweigh security with the job.

0:29:430:29:49

As the sun begins to set, it is

0:29:490:29:51

clear Gary is far from certain about what the future holds.

0:29:510:29:54

I'm still feeling quite pressured, as far as us as a couple go.

0:29:550:29:59

I'm still not 100% convinced on what I'm going to

0:29:590:30:02

decide and where we are going to go, at the moment.

0:30:020:30:05

Difficult choices lie ahead, but meanwhile, it is time to

0:30:060:30:10

find out if the day has done enough

0:30:100:30:13

to see Gary choose Australia over the UK.

0:30:130:30:15

After sampling the Australian lifestyle today,

0:30:150:30:18

it is time for us to vote.

0:30:180:30:20

BOTH: Australia!

0:30:290:30:31

-Any surprises there?

-No.

-Yeah.

0:30:310:30:33

No, I knew you would convince yourself.

0:30:330:30:35

It speaks for itself.

0:30:350:30:37

-Am I that easy to read?

-Yeah.

0:30:370:30:39

One of Gary's biggest concerns about a potential move is

0:30:520:30:55

the thought of having to establish new friendships.

0:30:550:30:58

To help put his mind to rest, we have arranged for the couple to

0:30:580:31:01

meet with Kelly's cousin Nicki and her family.

0:31:010:31:04

-Hello! Nicki!

-Hiya!

0:31:060:31:09

It's been 19 years since Nicki and Kelly last saw one another.

0:31:090:31:13

-Have you enjoyed it this week?

-Yeah, it's been really good.

0:31:130:31:15

The lifestyle, I think, suits us down to a T.

0:31:150:31:18

We travel a lot, and I don't think there is

0:31:180:31:20

any better place in Australia.

0:31:200:31:22

One of Gary's problems is, we don't have a support network

0:31:220:31:26

here yet, which is why it was a big thing to meet you guys.

0:31:260:31:29

You won't have any trouble.

0:31:290:31:30

-You won't have any trouble making friends, that is for sure.

-Yeah.

0:31:300:31:34

While the girls catch up,

0:31:340:31:36

Gary helps Nicki's husband Neville get a barbecue going,

0:31:360:31:40

and finds out what he thinks of life down under.

0:31:400:31:43

Mate, we love it. Summertime, we are out there

0:31:430:31:45

probably four nights a week.

0:31:450:31:46

If it's too hot, you jump in the pool.

0:31:460:31:48

THEY LAUGH

0:31:480:31:49

Back to the barbie.

0:31:490:31:51

-Kelly will be glad you are saying all of this.

-Oh, I love it.

0:31:510:31:54

As the evening wears on,

0:31:550:31:57

Neville admits he is not convinced Gary will take the plunge.

0:31:570:32:01

He is a little bit up and down, so it'll be interesting to see

0:32:010:32:04

if that is going to happen.

0:32:040:32:06

The chance to see the kind of evenings they could enjoy

0:32:060:32:09

if they do make the move has been reassuring for both Kelly and Gary.

0:32:090:32:13

It's nice to kind of see what support networks we would have here

0:32:130:32:16

if we did move out, so I have really enjoyed today.

0:32:160:32:19

Yeah, being able to get outdoors, have a barbecue,

0:32:190:32:22

enjoy the Australian way, I guess, it's been really good fun.

0:32:220:32:26

Won over by the lifestyle

0:32:330:32:34

and realising making friends could be easier than Gary feared has

0:32:340:32:38

put him another step closer to agreeing to Kelly's dream.

0:32:380:32:42

But she knows she still needs to be convinced the move

0:32:420:32:45

won't break the bank.

0:32:450:32:46

To help the couple figure out how living costs in Australia

0:32:460:32:50

compare with the UK, we have provided them with some financial facts.

0:32:500:32:53

-You ready?

-Yeah. Nervous?

-A little bit.

-A little bit?

0:32:550:32:59

I'm intrigued as well, I think.

0:32:590:33:00

-Yeah, I don't know which way it is going to go.

-Yeah.

0:33:000:33:03

-First up, a comparison of their weekly grocery shop.

-Oh, bread.

0:33:030:33:07

-That's more expensive.

-Bananas.

-Oh, my God!

0:33:070:33:11

-That's massive.

-Yeah!

0:33:110:33:13

I love a banana.

0:33:130:33:15

GARY LAUGHS

0:33:150:33:16

You'll have to start loving half a banana. Lemons, then.

0:33:160:33:19

You're going from 99p to £2.59.

0:33:190:33:22

They just grow on trees round here, we'll just go and pick them.

0:33:220:33:26

Overall, their shopping bill would be just over £100.

0:33:260:33:29

So that's £15...

0:33:290:33:31

and a penny more a week.

0:33:310:33:35

-£60 a month.

-Well, that is not that bad.

0:33:350:33:39

Gary doesn't looked convinced,

0:33:390:33:41

as the couple move on to the bigger monthly bills.

0:33:410:33:44

Basing figures on the final property they viewed,

0:33:440:33:46

they're £369 out of pocket straightaway.

0:33:460:33:51

It is a lot more expensive than what we are paying in the UK,

0:33:510:33:55

but in the UK we don't get the pool. It was a huge house.

0:33:550:33:59

Unfortunately, many of the utility bills are bigger, too.

0:33:590:34:03

So, obviously there's gas, £15 in the UK, £16.

0:34:030:34:06

So, minus one. Electricity, minus six.

0:34:060:34:10

-Water.

-So what are we on, 35 in the UK.

-Minus 25.

0:34:100:34:15

There are too many minuses.

0:34:150:34:17

Kelly adds everything up to find out their overall costs.

0:34:170:34:21

-What did we get?

-2,702.

-2,702.

0:34:210:34:27

So we are £266 out of pocket.

0:34:270:34:31

OK.

0:34:330:34:35

Concerned, Gary shifts his attention to their potential new

0:34:350:34:38

earnings down under.

0:34:380:34:40

Basing his figure on the assumption he will find casual work.

0:34:400:34:44

-So, 3,679.

-3,679 combined.

0:34:440:34:49

That's £184 more than their joint income in the UK.

0:34:490:34:53

But when they take away the higher bills

0:34:530:34:56

and compare the result to their disposable income at home

0:34:560:34:59

every month, there's no escaping they're quids down.

0:34:590:35:03

-£82.

-Worse off.

0:35:030:35:05

But then you do get the lifestyle, the weather.

0:35:050:35:10

Doesn't seem to be...

0:35:100:35:12

I would pay £82 a month for that in the UK.

0:35:120:35:15

Ultimately, they would be just under £1,000 worse off

0:35:150:35:18

per year in Australia.

0:35:180:35:21

I guess when you just look on the face of it,

0:35:210:35:24

we would be £82 a month worse off.

0:35:240:35:26

That sounds great with the lifestyle

0:35:260:35:28

and house we could potentially have.

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But I mean, again, it keeps coming back to the whole risk of, you know,

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this is based on just a kind of guesstimate as to what

0:35:350:35:40

-I could potentially get if I could get a casual or temporary job.

-Mm-hm.

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Gary is still struggling to get his head around the idea

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of sacrificing job security.

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But will the figures have done enough to secure another vote for Australia?

0:35:530:35:57

-Australia.

-Australia.

0:36:000:36:02

-Yeah, I think...almost a bit of a no-brainer.

-Yeah.

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You are only £82 worse off...

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but with that house.

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Just based on the finances, I was pleasantly surprised, I think.

0:36:120:36:16

-I think the £82 a week, that's worth the lifestyle, I think.

-Yeah.

0:36:160:36:21

With the lifestyle they stand to gain outweighing the loss of a few

0:36:270:36:30

pounds in their pockets...

0:36:300:36:33

it seems Gary is really buying into Kelly's Australian dream.

0:36:330:36:37

But realising his reluctance to leave everyone he's grown up

0:36:370:36:40

with in Wales, she knows watching messages from loved ones back

0:36:400:36:44

home could set him back to square one.

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-Should we watch and see?

-Mm-hm.

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-ALL:

-Hello, Kelly and Gary!

0:36:510:36:54

Hello, Kelly.

0:36:540:36:56

Gary is very, very laid-back, and Kelly is the sort of go-getter.

0:36:560:36:59

I think that is why they work so well, because they are chalk

0:36:590:37:02

and cheese. But Gary can also be really funny.

0:37:020:37:04

Don't know what's she on about.

0:37:040:37:06

She's done so much in her short life.

0:37:060:37:09

You won't believe what she's done. She's...

0:37:090:37:12

I wish I was like her, and where she gets it from and the energy.

0:37:120:37:16

'Kelly is very strong minded. She's always wanted to live away.

0:37:160:37:19

'She had that set in her mind before she met Gary.'

0:37:190:37:22

I think, then, he is going to have to decide whether he's in or out,

0:37:220:37:25

-really, because I think she will go without him.

-Probably.

-Yeah.

0:37:250:37:29

If Gary and Kelly went,

0:37:300:37:32

there would be a gap that probably wouldn't get filled.

0:37:320:37:35

'Yeah, there would be.'

0:37:350:37:36

I want Auntie Kelly to stay because I love her.

0:37:360:37:40

'My worst fear is if she got into trouble.'

0:37:430:37:45

You know, if she was ill or if she had an accident

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and I couldn't get to her quickly.

0:37:480:37:50

She's got extended family over there, who would support her.

0:37:500:37:52

But there's nothing like your mum, you know,

0:37:520:37:54

when you are in trouble and you need help.

0:37:540:37:59

'I dread the thought of it, really, because the thing is,

0:37:590:38:02

'the older you get, you don't'

0:38:020:38:03

know if you will be able to get out there and see them again.

0:38:030:38:07

That's... At my age.

0:38:070:38:10

I don't even want to think about it.

0:38:100:38:13

'I would really miss you if you were to go,'

0:38:130:38:15

but obviously if you do choose to go, I wish you the best of luck.

0:38:150:38:19

Even though we will all miss you loads, and we don't want you

0:38:190:38:22

to go, we do want nice holidays and somewhere to stay.

0:38:220:38:25

So I hope you have a fantastic time, and make the decision right for you.

0:38:250:38:29

You've both been good mates to us.

0:38:310:38:33

You deserve the opportunity to do what's best for the pair of you.

0:38:330:38:36

'There's always a place here for you if you do decide to go out there.'

0:38:360:38:39

-But again, do what you want.

-Fantastic friends.

-Do what you want.

0:38:390:38:43

'It's going to be hard, I will miss you.'

0:38:450:38:47

You know, you are a great couple and...

0:38:470:38:51

you are a big part of my life.

0:38:510:38:53

And it is going to be hard when you go,

0:38:530:38:55

but I think you should give it a go.

0:38:550:38:58

'Hi, Kelly.'

0:38:580:38:59

You've been a wonderful granddaughter.

0:38:590:39:02

And I'm so proud of all the things that you've achieved.

0:39:020:39:06

And I will really miss you if you go,

0:39:060:39:08

but if you do decide to go, I wish you all the best.

0:39:080:39:12

-What do you think of that?

-I'm a bit more emotional than I thought.

0:39:160:39:21

I don't know.

0:39:210:39:22

It is quite hard, actually, isn't it?

0:39:240:39:27

Yeah.

0:39:290:39:30

-I guess we're leaving a lot behind, I suppose, aren't we?

-Mm.

0:39:340:39:38

And it is missing my nephew's growing up, that's what I think

0:39:380:39:41

the struggle is for me.

0:39:410:39:43

I don't want to not be part of his life.

0:39:430:39:48

-Do you know what I mean?

-Yeah.

-It is hard, like. That's all it is.

0:39:480:39:52

Kelly's chances of persuading Gary to make the move down under

0:40:010:40:04

had looked promising all week.

0:40:040:40:07

But messages from loved ones have been a real reminder for both

0:40:070:40:10

Gary and Kelly of the true emotional cost of leaving the UK behind.

0:40:100:40:16

As the couple prepared to make their all-important final decision,

0:40:160:40:20

will the reality of being 10,000 miles from friends

0:40:200:40:24

and family outweigh the benefits of a life in Australia?

0:40:240:40:28

Kelly's first trip down under was all about convincing Gary to

0:40:320:40:35

share her vision for their future.

0:40:350:40:38

But as they prepare to make the most important choice of the week,

0:40:380:40:41

messages from home have left him with a conundrum.

0:40:410:40:44

You know, whichever way I go, there are going to be people upset.

0:40:440:40:47

It's a kind of balancing act now to decide what I think is right for me, what I think is right for Kelly

0:40:470:40:51

and what I think is right for everybody else. It is just trying to put all that together

0:40:510:40:55

and make that one final decision.

0:40:550:40:57

Words from loved ones were difficult for Kelly to hear, too.

0:40:570:41:01

I was a little bit more emotional and a bit more affected

0:41:010:41:04

by the family and friends' videos than I kind of thought I was.

0:41:040:41:08

So it is a bit of soul-searching for myself as well,

0:41:080:41:10

to kind of weigh that up with the dream I've had for a long time.

0:41:100:41:14

But Gary knows she'll still chase the life she desires.

0:41:160:41:19

I would say, yes, I'm fairly confident.

0:41:190:41:21

I still think I know which way Kelly is going to vote.

0:41:210:41:25

She's going to vote Australia.

0:41:250:41:28

Ultimately, Kelly and Gary realise if they aren't on the same page when their

0:41:280:41:32

final votes are cast, they could end up on opposite sides of the world.

0:41:320:41:37

This is kind of a dream I've wanted for a very long time.

0:41:370:41:40

And if he can't see himself in Australia, then we need to kind

0:41:400:41:44

of have a conversation about our future and where we go with that.

0:41:440:41:47

Now I'm deciding whether I'm going to be part of Kelly's dream,

0:41:470:41:50

or whether it's going to be something that she may be undertaking on her own.

0:41:500:41:54

With so much at stake, it's time to find out whether Kelly

0:41:540:41:57

and Gary will be together or apart

0:41:570:41:59

when it comes to choosing where they want to call home.

0:41:590:42:03

This week, I've had the chance to show Gary what Australia has

0:42:030:42:06

to offer, so I think we should just get down to vote, maybe.

0:42:060:42:09

Come on, then.

0:42:090:42:10

-Australia.

-UK.

0:42:200:42:22

Oh!

0:42:220:42:24

-How come?

-I'm basing it purely on what we've seen this week,

0:42:240:42:27

and I just don't think the dream house, with my job prospects,

0:42:270:42:31

is a gamble I'd be willing to take for either of us, I don't think.

0:42:310:42:34

I think when we go back home, we need to look at the affordability.

0:42:340:42:38

You know, what we could afford if work wasn't to go as planned for me.

0:42:380:42:41

And then if we can still find somewhere that was affordable,

0:42:410:42:45

I would be more inclined to be voting Australia.

0:42:450:42:48

I do want you to come, so if you could kind of look into that,

0:42:480:42:51

that would be brilliant. And it would be nice if we could come together,

0:42:510:42:55

rather than me on my own.

0:42:550:42:56

Despite Kelly's best efforts,

0:43:010:43:04

Gary is not ready yet to commit to a move down under.

0:43:040:43:08

Wherever they decide to call home, and whether or not it's together,

0:43:080:43:12

we wish both Kelly and Gary all the best for the future.

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