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The perfect family life is a dream that's familiar to us all,

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but moving to the other side of the world is a huge decision,

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especially when you risk tearing apart the family you want to protect.

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The Turners are caught between a new life in Australia and what it could cost them.

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I'm hoping she'll decide to come with us. If not, we might have to stay.

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-And after a week of ups...

-As they say, the Queen has arrived at her mansion.

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-..and downs...

-I don't know if they'll be able to persuade me.

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-..they'll face a potentially heartbreaking choice.

-We need to realise how difficult it'll be.

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Sorry.

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With its 30,000 miles of coastline and sunny climate,

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life in Australia has long been a favourite destination for Brits dreaming of a new life abroad.

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But when around 10,000 return home each year, sometimes that dream isn't all it's cracked up to be.

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The Turners have one week to swap their life in Swansea for a new start in Perth.

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It's a huge decision, probably the biggest they'll ever have to make.

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To make that choice means travelling over 9,000 miles and crossing three continents,

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spending 17 hours in the air. Plenty of time to think about the reality of moving so far away

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Coming from plane to plane,

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with the break in-between, it was such a long time. It made me realise how far from home we were.

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-But it's still less than a day.

-I'm quite excited to see and do everything

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because I haven't got a clue about Australia. It's a big experience

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and will help me decide what is best for us all.

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It was the longest 18 hours of my life. If I do stay home, I've got to travel all that time

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-to see you and I hate flying as it is, so it just puts me off.

-That's fair enough.

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I'd rather stay home and live there.

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There's still a big journey ahead for the family, but already worries are starting to show.

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The life Down Under is a new experience for everyone and a long way from their home in Swansea.

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Simon Turner and his wife Trudy live with Trudy's 19-year-old daughter Kirsty

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and their son Jacob, who's eight. They have a happy life,

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but for Simon it comes at the price of working long hours running his own accountancy business

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-and he's desperate for a better work/life balance.

-What I'm hoping for, rather than expecting,

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is to work less hours and have more time for the family.

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I've been on about it probably for five or six years.

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Trudy at first didn't really say much. Now she's not quite as up for it as I am,

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but getting there. She's willing to give it a go.

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I'm sort of 50% if I want to go or don't want to go. I don't know what I want, really.

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I don't know what it's like. I know he wants me to be happy, but he deserves as well

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a life where he can be comfortable and not work all the hours.

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Spending time together is important to the Turners

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and they hope Australia can offer a better family lifestyle,

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but for Trudy and Kirsty that could mean a painful decision.

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I think Kirsty's sort of got an open mind. She'll have a look and see what she thinks.

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If she meets people and meets friends, she'll be really happy,

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but if she finds it more difficult, I think she'll want to come home.

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Her dad is here, all her family and my family are here for her, but she's always been my girl

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so I don't think I could leave her high and dry.

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For student Kirsty it's almost an impossible choice.

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Them moving there and my dad over here, it's kind of like choosing.

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I feel like whether I stay here or whether I go there, I'm going to miss out on either one.

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I don't know what the future holds, whether she'll come or not.

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If she decides really not to come, I have to think about whether I need to come back.

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It's a massive dilemma for the Turners and one that affects the whole family.

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I think it's going to knock us for six and we need to realise how difficult it's going to be.

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Yeah.

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You all right?

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Sorry.

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The Turners love almost everything about their life.

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All that's missing is the time to enjoy it together,

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but if Australia can't provide the life for all of them, they face a heartbreaking choice,

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whether to give up on their dream forever or risk splitting up the family.

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Home for the week is Perth in Western Australia.

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With its warm climate and wide open spaces, the family hope it could be the ideal place for them,

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but with so much riding on the decision, can it really deliver the goods?

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First stop is their base for the week in the suburb of Karrinyup, just a short drive from the airport.

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This four-bedroom open-plan home should give them a good taste of typical Aussie living.

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-Still not as big as I thought it'd be, though.

-OK.

-I think for the budget that we'd like to spend

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-I want something...

-More open-plan.

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Moving to the other side of the world is a big decision for anyone

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and worries are never far from the surface.

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I've never been so nervous in my life. This is basically going to decide whether I move or not.

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Either I move here and build a life around them as well, or I stay home and I don't have that reliance.

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There's nothing in Australia that I feel has any benefit to me. I'm not looking for a bigger house.

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It's not offering me my friends or my family or anything.

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It's only offering me a better life for the children than we've got.

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This week coming up, there'll be a lot of decisions made around whether it's the right move for us or not.

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-We'll just wait and see.

-I think it's a matter of whether it's worth giving up

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everything we've got for it, all our friends and family as well.

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If Trudy is to sacrifice her home and the people she loves,

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getting the right house is crucial, but property prices in Perth are amongst the highest in Australia.

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So finding a home that fits their dreams and their wallet, it could be a big ask.

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Back home, the Turners live in a three-bedroom semi-detached house in Swansea.

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They've spent time and energy on making it a home and believe it's worth around £130,000.

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Combined with Simon's salary, they're hoping for a budget of £280,000-£340,000.

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Their house is Trudy's pride and joy and she knows exactly what her dream home will need to make her move.

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My ideal house would be a four-bedroomed, open-spaced house,

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hopefully with a little pool for Jacob,

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in a quiet area.

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The ideal house for me would have room for people to come and stay,

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and for me it's got to be a fairly easy commute to work.

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One reason I'm going is I don't want to spend all my time in work.

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Today we'll give the Turners a taste of Perth's housing market.

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We'll show them three options, based upon what they want,

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what they can afford and the real cost of property Down Under.

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After seeing for themselves what's on offer, we'll reveal to them just how much each house costs.

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The search begins in Joondalup, a suburb north of the city.

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It's a popular area for families with beaches, shops and schools.

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The three-bedroom house they've come to see is a typical example of a modern Aussie home,

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but will it appeal to Trudy and the rest of the family?

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-It just reminds me of back home. It's big enough definitely for us.

-Definitely.

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It's just if we've got people coming to stay, I don't know whether this sort of set up is big enough.

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We've got to provide for everyone as well. We don't want to be cramped for two weeks every few months.

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If the indoors looks too small for their needs, can the garden change their opinion?

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Th only thing missing is there's a pool, but it's very small.

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-But it's not a deal breaker.

-No, it's just I know Jakey really wanted a pool. Would you be happy

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-- with something little like that? - Yeah, a little bit.

-A little bit.

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No pool for Jacob, but Trudy spotted something far more refreshing.

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All I need now is my Malibu, Coke and ice, snatch a lemon, cut it up

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-and into my drink. That's fab.

-So it's decided - you want the house because it's got lemons.

-Lovely.

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But Kirsty doesn't seem as impressed and with only three bedrooms lack of space is a real problem.

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If you're going to move over here, the big thing is that people can come and visit if they want to.

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-A house with only three bedrooms isn't big enough.

-Definitely not big enough for us.

-OK.

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Although it's a similar size to their UK home, this doesn't offer what they want or need.

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-So will finding out the price seal its fate?

-What do you reckon?

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-I think it'll be 250.

-I think it's worth 240 English pounds.

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-Sounds a lot, doesn't it?

-£240,000, yeah. Jake?

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- I think it's 250. - 250.

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Ready, guys?

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265.

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-What do you think of that, Kirst?

-Way overpriced for what it is.

-I think it's overpriced.

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I'm not surprised. It's just not a price I'd pay for a three-bedroom, one-bathroom with small rooms.

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-I'd rather go further out for that bigger house that we wanted.

-Yeah.

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-At the moment, this wouldn't sway me to come over here.

-No.

-I like it, but not enough.

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The first house may have been affordable, but it didn't deliver enough. Will finding what they want

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mean a big jump in price?

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The second house is a two-storey home on the outskirts of Joondalup.

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It's close to the beach and has good transport links to the city, which may help Simon.

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With four bedrooms, there should be enough space for everyone.

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As they say, the Queen has arrived at her mansion.

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Just up the red carpet there's a downstairs dining room, a family-sized kitchen diner

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-and two living rooms, so plenty of space for Her Majesty.

-Probably smaller than I imagined.

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-I was expecting something really big, open-plan, just from the front.

-Or maybe not.

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A decent enough sized kitchen, love. Not massive, but big enough.

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-But it's not very nice.

-OK. A bit harsh.

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It's not very nice at all. When I was outside, I was really expecting luxury.

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I'm just disappointed, I think, for me. I thought the Queen had arrived at her castle

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and now I feel like a princess.

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-And then you have the second living room.

-I just feel it could be modelled better inside.

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-It's just not thought out.

-No, I don't think it is.

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This house is failing to convince and upstairs even the extra bedroom is little consolation.

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No, the outside was fantastic. When I arrived, I thought we'll never afford a house like that.

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But now I wouldn't want to buy it.

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However, there is one feature that should keep Jacob happy.

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-This is nice. I like this.

-Yeah.

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You've got a little pool there. A medium-sized pool.

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-Unfortunately, the inside is nowhere near...

-What you wanted.

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Although this house offers more space, it still hasn't lived up to the Turners' hopes

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and if the price is over-budget, it'll be even tougher to convince Trudy and Kirsty to make the move.

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-Ah!

-I think this...

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-465.

-465 for you, Jake? That's not a bad guess, mate.

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I'm going to say 475.

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I'll say 480, but I don't think it's worth it.

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If I really had to guess a value, I wouldn't guess more than about 440.

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OK.

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You ready, guys?

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-400,000.

-So it's not that much. I was closer than any of you.

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-And I said I wouldn't pay 430.

-I don't think I'd pay 400. I wouldn't buy it.

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Both over-budget and underwhelming, the second house is another failure.

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Finding the right house is looking like a big ask.

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For their final option, they head to the quiet suburb of Tapping.

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It's an hour's commute from the city, but should offer the family more for their money.

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The house they've come to see is on a new development.

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-With four bedrooms, a pool and a gym for Trudy and Kirsty, it sounds tailor-made.

-Ahh!

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Looks like home.

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-I think Mam will like this room.

-Oh, this really is nice.

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And I love the en suite. The kitchen is really nice.

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I wouldn't touch the kitchen. I wouldn't touch anything.

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It's just like back home. Jacob seems excited. He can see something out there.

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Lovely, lovely blue pool, isn't it?

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It's exactly what we're looking for. Shall we go and check if the bedroom is going to be a downer?

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-Yes.

-It seems too good to be true at the moment.

-It does, but you never know.

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Jake's been won over by the pool and Trudy by the space.

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But can it impress Kirsty?

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-Oh, there's a second bathroom, too.

-This would be Kirsty's shower room.

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This would be all for you.

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-Would that swing it for you, Kirst?

-Mm.

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All right, does it change your mind just a tiny bit?

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-I told you like the houses here.

-Patio doors here to open up onto the pool.

-It'd be nice.

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You'd just want to dive in.

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The house seems to be offering something for everyone and the best has been saved for last.

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Ah!

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-It's a gym at the moment, anyway.

-Yeah.

-It does everything that we need in the house.

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-It ticks every box.

-I think so.

-Every single box, in and out.

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- So you'll go to Dad's gym in the morning? Yeah. And then the pool.

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You'll be keeping really fit, then!

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With all the features they could want, the Turners look to have found their ideal home,

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but will its promise be undone by its price? With a maximum budget of £340,000

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there's a lot resting on what's inside this envelope.

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So what do we think, then? What did you say it was?

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-Judging on the last one, 320.

-You say 320.

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I'll just go a little bit higher than you at 325, but I wouldn't say much more than that still.

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-No, probably not.

-- What are you thinking, Jake? - 350.

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- If you're right, you can keep it. - Yeah, that would be cool.

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-Go on then, have a look.

-Jake, you can read it out. I'll just bring it out for you.

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Ready? Jacob's excited. Can he live here? Can he not live here?

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-He's thinking, "Can I have it?"

-Pull it out, Jake. Hold it up.

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Oh! 350 - you're right!

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Yeah!

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I can't believe you were right, Jake.

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-I could see myself settling in a house like this.

-I could see myself here.

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-If I get the job offer.

-Kirst, would this be enough to sway you?

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I don't know. I mean, I do like the houses and I do like the lifestyle of it,

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but I just don't think it's me.

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It's a mixed result. They found a house that could persuade Trudy to swap Swansea for Australia,

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but the location still isn't enough to convince Kirsty.

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The Turners have seen three different properties. The first house was on budget,

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but short on space and features. The second's looks wowed them,

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but it flattered to deceive and came with a huge price tag.

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Finally, the third house offered all the space and facilities they could want,

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but at the price of a long commute for Simon.

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So have these houses done enough to persuade them that leaving the UK could be worth the sacrifice?

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OK, that's the end of the housing day. We've seen three very nice, very different houses

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and it's given us a very good idea of what we can expect from a house.

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Based on the houses that we've seen today, our vote is going to be...

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ALL: Australia!

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That's a surprise!

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Australia, Jake? And Kirsty.

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-You prefer the houses over here, then?

-Yeah.

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Even though I don't know whether I want to live here, the houses are still nicer here.

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They've got massive gardens and pools, which is really nice.

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And the houses are generally bigger and I'd have a bigger room,

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so they always are going to be better than the UK ones anyway.

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A vote for Perth from everyone is a great result for Simon,

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even if Kirsty still has her doubts.

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But moving to Australia won't come cheap if the Turners want their dream house, too,

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so the pressure's on Simon to find work that pays well, but will still give him the family time he craves.

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Simon works long hours running his own accountancy business.

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He earns around £50,000 a year, but finding a better work/life balance drives his desire to move.

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I don't feel I'll have to do as many hours. Swansea tends to be quite a depressed area, salary-wise,

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for what I do. If I'm going to move, I may as well go the whole hog and try something new.

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Having built up his business from scratch, Simon would be taking a big gamble on giving it all up.

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A little bit apprehensive because it's not within my comfort zone that I'm used to,

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but still looking forward to it. It's something different.

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We've arranged for Simon to meet with Bruce Fielding, a consultant at a large Perth accountancy firm,

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to find out about working in the city.

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While Simon gets the lowdown on Aussie finance, Trudy, Jacob and Kirsty are off to Caversham Park

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to meet some of the local wildlife. Park ranger Geoff Cotterill is on hand to show them around.

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How would you like to see some kangaroos?

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If they do move to Australia,

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Trudy is keen to get involved with volunteer work and the park could be a way of meeting new people.

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-If I wanted to come down here and volunteer, would that be something that you'd look at?

-Yeah, absolutely

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We have a volunteer programme at the park,

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a lot to do with helping the public with directions around the park, taking photos.

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-He does photography back home.

-You have to wear a uniform.

-We don't mind that.

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It's a family-run park, so we're all one big family here, which includes the volunteers.

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We do social events all together and we'd like to make you part of that if you come back and see us.

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This is something I would really be interested in doing.

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And with the social part of it as well, it will be good for me to network and meet people,

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as well as the animals, and I think that's going to be a big part of me being able to move over here.

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-We'd love to see you.

-Good, good. Would this push you towards Oz?

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It does appeal to me, it makes me interested, it makes me want to come here,

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-so it does make me think...

-There's more to life in Oz.

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-Yeah, there's more to life in Oz than just...

-Fashion.

-Just fashion.

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This would be your thing. You could meet people and maybe after a year, you might think, "I've got friends.

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"Maybe I could live here."

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Trudy is working hard to sell the idea of life in Oz, but if Simon can't find the right job,

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there'll be no future in Australia.

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My first question is whether my skills and experience fit into the local market and the local economy.

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Your experience suits the industries

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that are going well here in Western Australia at the moment - engineering, construction.

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So where would you see me pitched in the market?

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-You'd be looking at something from.. anywhere from 90,000 per annum through to 150,000.

-OK.

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So if you pitched yourself to start at the lower end of that range,

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you've got plenty of scope to grow over the next two or three years as your experience grows.

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If you can get a position with a company that's growing

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and doing well, you've got a good chance to grow with them.

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Simon's salary would match what he earns in the UK

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and with the prospect of it growing, a future down under looks promising.

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I feel very positive about the possibilities of a role here in Perth.

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My skills and experience seem to be a natural fit

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and the salary levels are what I need them to be

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for us to make a success of it, so I think it's going to be good.

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So which way will he vote?

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Based upon what I've found out today and the conversations I've had and the work I've done

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on whether I'm going to work in the UK or Australia, I'm going to vote for...

0:24:060:24:12

..Australia.

0:24:150:24:17

I think this is going to make it easier for Trudy, but I don't think it will be the overriding factor.

0:24:170:24:23

There are other things relating to family and friends that will be a stronger pull on Trudy to the UK,

0:24:230:24:29

so even though the opportunity to buy the house that we're going to want in the future

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is going to be sort of one thing off the checklist, I don't think it will be one of the main factors.

0:24:350:24:41

Simon's earning potential is great news,

0:24:450:24:48

but a big salary could come at a cost to the family.

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And there's another money matter for the Turners to face - the sale of the house they love.

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We've sent two estate agents round to the Turners' Swansea home

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for an estimate of what it may fetch on the market

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and with the house they like in Oz at the top of their budget, they'll need every penny they can raise.

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Ground floor bathroom. Good sized lounge.

0:25:120:25:16

Patio doors opening on to the balcon as well and views of the bay.

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-Pity it weren't a nice day.

-Hmm.

0:25:200:25:23

Lovely sized bathroom. Nice sized corner bath with a shower over.

0:25:230:25:27

-It looks nicer than I thought.

-Yeah, it does.

0:25:270:25:31

Very nice kitchen, two nice windows to the back garden as well, built-in appliances.

0:25:310:25:36

He's polite, isn't he? I like him.

0:25:360:25:39

Good sized second bedroom and definitely a boy's room.

0:25:390:25:43

One of the pluses is it's got three good sized bedrooms.

0:25:440:25:48

-She's nice, she is.

-She is very nice, Kirst.

0:25:480:25:51

The big plus for this property is obviously the fantastic sea view.

0:25:510:25:56

Ex-local authority properties don't always attract buyers, but it has good views.

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We'd recommend that this property is put on the market at 89,950

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with offers at 80,000-plus being considered.

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The rental value would be around £450 per month.

0:26:080:26:11

-That's not too bad.

-No.

0:26:110:26:14

We'd value this house at 85,950 with a quick sale of 80,000

0:26:140:26:18

and a rental figure of 450.

0:26:180:26:21

I'm surprised it was quite that low, but I'm not overly surprised the way the market's gone in recent years.

0:26:210:26:27

-To be honest, I wouldn't even sell i for 80,000 or 85,000.

-I'm not selling it for anything anyway.

0:26:270:26:33

-I want it as a pension.

-It won't deter our...

0:26:330:26:36

-Not at all.

-..deter us from moving at all if we wanted to, is it?

-No.

0:26:360:26:40

-I was really happy with that.

-You're just happy with the comments.

-I don't care about value.

0:26:400:26:46

That's a big drop in value even if Simon and Trudy seem determined to stay positive,

0:26:460:26:52

but everything now hinges on the cost of living.

0:26:520:26:54

We've prepared a comparison of the Turners' expenses in Australia.

0:26:540:26:59

Based on their calculations, they'll find out if they can afford to live down under.

0:26:590:27:05

-Lemons are three times as much, so you know the answer to that.

-A lemon tree.

-Yeah.

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So the overall difference is about £45, £50 a week.

0:27:100:27:14

The weekly shop in Australia is more expensive.

0:27:140:27:17

What about the other costs?

0:27:170:27:19

Coming to the monthly payments, council tax is...

0:27:200:27:25

-More expensive.

-Transport is going to be a lot cheaper because you're not travelling to Cardiff.

-Exactly.

0:27:250:27:31

-I always expected the cost of living to be higher.

-Yeah.

0:27:310:27:35

Based on the UK salary of 50,000, we come out at just over 300 a month...every month left

0:27:350:27:42

and the equivalent salary I've been told I can earn over here is around £90,000

0:27:420:27:47

which is...80% more again, but because of the extra cost of living

0:27:470:27:51

and the higher mortgage for the house that we want,

0:27:510:27:55

we're going to pretty much come out the same every month.

0:27:550:27:58

Financially, we'll just be the same. We're not moving to be better off.

0:27:580:28:03

-As long as we're not worse off.

-We're moving for a better lifestyle.

0:28:030:28:07

-That's all good, isn't it?

-I think so.

-And the job market is good over here.

-Very strong.

-Very strong.

0:28:070:28:13

-You're thinking the sooner you move, the better?

-While the market's still strong.

0:28:130:28:18

It looks as if the Turners will be no better or worse off in Australia than they are in the UK,

0:28:190:28:26

so how will they decide where their future lies?

0:28:260:28:30

So after considering the options on the cost of living in the UK

0:28:300:28:34

as opposed to the cost of living in Australia, we're going to vote for...

0:28:340:28:39

-..Australia.

-Australia.

0:28:460:28:49

-Happy days.

-Happy days. I thought you would vote Australia anyway.

-We still had to make sure it was right.

0:28:510:28:58

If we had been slightly worse off, there could have been adjustments we could have made.

0:28:580:29:03

But if we had been quite worse off, I don't think I could have justified it to myself bringing everyone over.

0:29:030:29:10

I just think if we're having a bette lifestyle and we're getting a better house out of it, which we are,

0:29:100:29:16

then to break even with that kind of house and that kind of lifestyle is pretty good going.

0:29:160:29:22

Having an accountant for a partner does have its advantages

0:29:260:29:31

and Simon is convinced the numbers do add up.

0:29:310:29:34

But for this move to really happen,

0:29:340:29:37

everything hinges on the Turners finding a lifestyle they can all enjoy together.

0:29:370:29:42

It's time for the Turners to sample what Perth has to offer the family.

0:29:420:29:47

With Kirsty's keen interest in fashion, mum and daughter spend the afternoon hitting the shops

0:29:470:29:53

for a bit of retail therapy and thinking time.

0:29:530:29:56

Meanwhile, Simon and Jacob check out the local football club.

0:29:560:30:00

Simon coaches Jacob's team at home and would like to continue down under,

0:30:000:30:05

so they're joining a practice session for a kickabout.

0:30:050:30:09

Do you want to get a ball and start to have a warm-up?

0:30:090:30:13

-Yeah?

-Then once you've warmed up, we'll introduce you to the team and we'll get going.

0:30:130:30:19

He's already enjoying himself. He's smack in the middle of it all.

0:30:190:30:23

Hopefully, that's a good sign for the future.

0:30:230:30:26

While Jacob is getting stuck in, the girls are taking a break from shopping for a heart-to-heart.

0:30:260:30:32

So being in the city centre here now,

0:30:340:30:37

would this persuade you to come out, whether it's now or in a couple of years?

0:30:370:30:42

Yeah, it has definitely persuaded me to come out.

0:30:420:30:46

I mean, I have to finish uni. I'm not going back home anyway, whether you live there or not.

0:30:460:30:53

So it has made me think about doing something with my career here.

0:30:530:30:57

Even if you didn't move now, maybe after the degree, where there are no jobs back home,

0:30:570:31:03

you could come out and make a life for yourself, come and stay with us,

0:31:030:31:07

get yourself a job that you've always wanted, good pay and meet some friends and have a good life.

0:31:070:31:13

-Yeah, it's made me think about it.

-Good. All we want you to do is to think about it.

0:31:130:31:18

Keeping Kirsty happy will go a long way to helping Trudy settle in Oz.

0:31:180:31:23

But it's just as important that Jacob makes friends,

0:31:230:31:27

so she's joining the soccer mums for a bit of a gossip.

0:31:270:31:30

-Hi, guys.

-Hi.

-I think he'll miss his friends and his football friends are really important to him.

0:31:300:31:36

This team is a really welcoming team, so he might get lucky.

0:31:360:31:41

Jake joined it late and he loves it.

0:31:410:31:43

Once they get involved in school, they make new friends.

0:31:430:31:47

-They're very adaptable.

-More adaptable than adults.

0:31:470:31:50

I think, "When I get here, my God, I'm going to be on my own!"

0:31:500:31:54

Then you meet mums when he goes to school and the soccer thing.

0:31:540:31:58

-Yes, I'm hoping so, I'm hoping that's going to be my little...

-Way in.

-Yeah, way in.

0:31:580:32:04

-Otherwise, I'll just be on my own all the time.

-Which would be hard.

0:32:040:32:08

A first taste of the Aussie lifestyle seems to be hitting all the right notes for the Turners.

0:32:080:32:14

But Simon's dream has always been about spending more time together

0:32:170:32:22

and they'll thank him as that means a 6am start the next morning for a bit of classic Aussie keep fit!

0:32:220:32:29

We have a special family here this morning out from England.

0:32:290:32:33

I don't know if they've won a prize or maybe it was last prize to get down to boot camp this morning.

0:32:330:32:39

We're going to head off for a little jog, so you can chuck your drinks down there.

0:32:390:32:44

We'll head clockwise around this way so follow me.

0:32:440:32:47

Good work. That's it.

0:32:580:33:00

Well done. Keep going.

0:33:000:33:03

Raise...

0:33:030:33:04

Three, two, one and go!

0:33:040:33:07

Three, two, one and go!

0:33:110:33:13

Kirsty's quite competitive in that little run.

0:33:160:33:20

- Awesome work, eh? Kirsty doesn't do running.

0:33:200:33:23

-She does a lot of sleeping.

-Maybe the change in climate might inspire her.

0:33:230:33:28

Compared to going to the gym back home, this is quite fun.

0:33:310:33:35

Going to the gym, you just go to work out, but here it's activities, it's more than just working out.

0:33:350:33:41

What do you like about it?

0:33:420:33:45

Running slow...

0:33:450:33:47

Would you get up to go to boot camp at the weekends?

0:33:470:33:50

It was a really good way of making friends and I enjoyed it.

0:33:500:33:54

It was good.

0:33:540:33:56

I don't know about the six o'clock starts, mind, but I reckon you get used to them, don't you?

0:33:560:34:02

Experiences like boot camp could be a way for the Turners to spend more time as a family,

0:34:020:34:09

but have the last couple of days convinced everyone that the Aussie lifestyle is for them?

0:34:090:34:14

The lifestyle that we've experienced here in Australia, compared to the UK, is a lot better,

0:34:140:34:20

generally because of the weather as well,

0:34:200:34:23

so our vote is going to be...

0:34:230:34:26

ALL: Australia!

0:34:320:34:35

-Everyone's Australia?

-Yeah, everybody's Australia.

0:34:370:34:41

I didn't expect that.

0:34:410:34:43

-Happy with that, Kirst?

-What?

0:34:430:34:45

-Do you think the lifestyle is better here?

-Yeah, it is better out here.

0:34:450:34:49

Everything's chilled, everything's relaxed.

0:34:490:34:53

-Which is what you like?

-Yeah.

0:34:530:34:55

Isn't that what you like, Trudy?

0:34:550:34:58

I liked just basically everything over the week. The football was great. I got to meet mothers.

0:34:580:35:03

I like football and it's better playing football out here

0:35:030:35:08

because I've been playing in the sun and back home I always have to play in the rain.

0:35:080:35:13

It's going to be better for us.

0:35:130:35:16

We won't be spending nine months of the year stuck in front of the TV

0:35:160:35:20

with someone spending three hours a night in front of his computer because there's nothing else to do.

0:35:200:35:26

A vote for Perth's lifestyle is a huge boost for Trudy's hopes of bringing Kirsty with them to Oz,

0:35:310:35:38

but there's still one big question that has to be answered -

0:35:380:35:42

can the Turners cope with the pain of leaving their loved ones behind?

0:35:420:35:47

The family are very close to their friends and relatives,

0:35:470:35:51

so seeing messages from them will be hard for everyone.

0:35:510:35:54

So we're going to have to watch the DVDs from all the family and friends now

0:35:540:35:59

and we've seen yourself and the children get upset with these things.

0:35:590:36:04

Should we let Jacob watch it? Kirsty is older.

0:36:040:36:07

I think Kirsty wants to watch it anyway and I think Jacob would feel really left out if he didn't.

0:36:070:36:13

It's important, because he's got to make a decision, we can't just show him the good stuff and not...

0:36:130:36:19

I did say that the other day.

0:36:190:36:21

I did say, "Is he just looking at the pool and thinking, 'I'm going to live here?'"

0:36:210:36:26

As much as it may upset him, we've got to let him make the full decision.

0:36:260:36:31

I'm not looking forward to this bit.

0:36:330:36:36

-Hi, everyone.

-Hi, gang.

-Hello, Simon, Trudy.

0:36:380:36:42

Simon, I'm very close to. He's my eldest.

0:36:420:36:46

He never moved away from Swansea until he was in the navy.

0:36:460:36:51

Trudy's a fun-loving person.

0:36:510:36:53

She always looks for the best in people.

0:36:530:36:56

Trudy as a sister is very caring, supportive.

0:36:560:37:00

She's always there for me.

0:37:000:37:02

As a daughter, Kirsty is very loving

0:37:020:37:05

She loves coming home on her breaks. It's nice to see her.

0:37:050:37:10

I think they're doing the right thing. If it was me,

0:37:100:37:14

looking back on my life, I would go straight away.

0:37:140:37:19

Before, it was always in the future, but I don't know how I'll cope with it.

0:37:190:37:23

I know how I feel. I don't know how his mum feels.

0:37:250:37:29

I do know how she feels.

0:37:290:37:31

But...

0:37:320:37:33

It's a big wrench.

0:37:330:37:36

I hope this week away has helped you make up your mind on what you want to do.

0:37:360:37:42

Even though you're going to be miles away, we're always here for you and you can pick up the phone.

0:37:420:37:48

I can't tell you how much I'll miss you all. Trudy, I'll always be your best friend wherever you live.

0:37:480:37:54

I think you've got great courage and I just want you to know I love you all very much.

0:37:540:38:00

Hi, Kirsty. I hope you make the righ decision which is to stay there.

0:38:000:38:04

I'll miss you very much and I love you.

0:38:040:38:07

If you want to come home, there's always a place here for you.

0:38:070:38:10

Whatever you decide, we'll back you all the way.

0:38:100:38:14

-Go for it, boy. You, Trudy, Kirsty and Jacob. If you like it out there, go for it.

-We love you lots.

0:38:160:38:23

Don't forget me, will you, please? I'm not going to forget you.

0:38:230:38:27

God bless you all! I'm so happy for you. Make a go of it, please.

0:38:280:38:34

Bye-bye, darling.

0:38:340:38:36

I do want them to go, but I'm going to miss them.

0:38:380:38:42

That was really sad.

0:38:440:38:46

-That was sad, wasn't it?

-Hmm.

0:38:470:38:50

That was tough. That was really hard.

0:38:500:38:54

-It was tough.

-It was tough.

-It was tougher than I thought it would be.

0:38:540:38:58

It's going to be a tough decision now.

0:38:580:39:00

Kirsty, whichever decision you make, it hasn't got to be your decision for ever.

0:39:000:39:05

Do you think you're going to lose support?

0:39:050:39:08

Um...

0:39:080:39:10

You're not going to lose support here.

0:39:130:39:16

It's not going to be any different to being over here, is it?

0:39:160:39:20

Hmm? You're going to get the same support.

0:39:230:39:26

Exactly the same support. No matter where we are, I'm always going to be there for you

0:39:260:39:32

whether it's the end of the phone, on the end of a plane. Christmas you can come and spend on the beach

0:39:320:39:38

and eye up all the talent.

0:39:380:39:40

-Hmm?

-There'll always be a room in the house for you wherever we are.

0:39:400:39:44

There'll always be a home here if we decide to come over here. Whereve we are, there's a home for you.

0:39:440:39:50

Seeing the pain their move would cause was a tough experience for the whole family.

0:39:550:40:00

With their future hopes in the balance, it's time for the Turners to make their crucial final vote.

0:40:000:40:06

The week's been very, very tiring.

0:40:070:40:10

It's had its ups and downs, but overall, I think we've enjoyed it.

0:40:100:40:14

I really didn't think I was going to like it over here.

0:40:140:40:18

I was more or less going for Simon's sake.

0:40:180:40:21

At the beginning, I was so scared, if I didn't want to come here, that I was going to lose my mum.

0:40:210:40:27

I don't think I'm going to lose my mum any more.

0:40:270:40:30

I think I've put her mind at rest that I'm not going to abandon her to come over here.

0:40:300:40:36

I'll still be with her 100%. I'm always going to be her mother.

0:40:360:40:40

I'll always be there for her like I have the last 19 years.

0:40:400:40:43

The things we've done this week have reinforced the view that we're going to have...

0:40:430:40:49

I won't call it a better lifestyle. We enjoy our lifestyle back home.

0:40:490:40:54

We'll have a different lifestyle that will be of benefit as well.

0:40:540:40:58

We've only got one life and if I don't give it a chance, for me and Simon and for the kids,

0:40:580:41:04

then I'm going to really be missing out on something really good.

0:41:040:41:08

It's time to vote. Has Trudy done enough to persuade Kirsty

0:41:080:41:13

or will Simon have to put his dreams on hold to keep the family together?

0:41:130:41:18

It's been a week of ups and downs, I'm hoping mostly ups.

0:41:180:41:21

I guess we'll find out in a few moments.

0:41:210:41:25

Based on our experiences of the past week, we've decided to vote for...

0:41:250:41:30

TRUDY AND SIMON: Australia.

0:41:340:41:36

Australia for you. We knew Kirsty was going to go UK.

0:41:390:41:43

What about you, Jake? It was Australia then, was it?

0:41:430:41:47

-Stay in Australia?

-Yeah?

0:41:470:41:50

Well done, boy.

0:41:500:41:52

Maybe in a couple of years' time?

0:41:530:41:55

-It's not that I'm not ruling out Australia...

-Yeah, I know.

0:41:550:42:00

But if I voted for now, to go back now, it would be Britain now.

0:42:000:42:04

-To go back to Britain now.

-But maybe in two years' time, the vote will be completely different.

0:42:040:42:09

I'd wait till I'd finished uni, then it might be Australia.

0:42:090:42:13

-I think that's the fairest thing we can ask for.

-I'm happy with that.

-Yeah?

-That's made me happy.

0:42:130:42:19

-That's made me happy.

-Cool.

0:42:190:42:22

I need to grow up and realise that I need to rely on myself as well.

0:42:220:42:26

They are nearly 40 and it's a great opportunity for Jacob.

0:42:260:42:30

Even if I don't want to go, I'll always support them going because it would be great for them as well.

0:42:300:42:36

We'll always be a family, there'll always be us four, but we'll just live in different places.

0:42:360:42:42

After a week to remember, the Turners have made the big leap and chosen a new life in Australia.

0:42:470:42:54

And there's still a chance that Kirsty will join them on the other side of the world.

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