Hoe Family Wanted Down Under

Convincing someone you love to move halfway around the world

is a tough enough task - but when two members of your family

have big worries about uprooting their lives,

it could be a recipe for heartbreak.

Craig Hoe's work is ruining his family life.

I've missed so much up to now, I don't want to miss any more.

But can he convince them moving to Australia is the answer?

If this is Australian life, then you can keep it, because I don't want it.

Especially when it comes at the risk of tearing the family apart.

When I know that I'm not going to see you again till...

It really tears at my hear...

With its 30,000 miles of coastline and sunny climate,

Australia has long been a favourite destination for Brits

dreaming of a new life abroad.

But leaving behind everything you know to start again so far from home

can turn a simple dream into the hardest challenge of your life.

Ahead of the Hoes are some huge decisions,

as they experience the reality of life in Australia.

At the end of their week, they'll face a challenging choice -

whether to stay in the UK or make the move for good.

After flying 10,000 miles and crossing three continents,

the Hoes touched down in Brisbane.

It's the furthest they've ever been from family in the UK.

Even so, they're excited, if a little confused.

We set off on Saturday, at... About one o'clock?

..one o'clock in the afternoon. And we're now Monday morning.

Wha... Whe... Are we Monday? I don't know where we are!

But the long journey has also been a rare treat.

It would have been the longest time we've spent together as a family

for a long time - which I enjoyed, it was good.

I enjoyed that time spent together,

sat, not being able to get away from each other!

However, the thought of family and friends they'd be leaving behind

is already hitting home.

Because of what we're doing, it felt like we were going.

It felt like the first cut-off, and it was hard.

It was hard to do that.

So what it would be like if we do it for good...

I can't imagine.

I was already thinking about what I was leaving behind

before I'd even set off, before I'd even got in the car. So, yeah...

It's an emotional start, and there's still seven days to go.

Back in the UK, the Hoe family live in the village of Hedon, near Hull.

There's Craig and Lisa, who are 36,

Ellie, who's 16,

and Lilly and Poppy, aged nine and seven.

Craig has a plumbing business. Lisa works part-time as a hairdresser.

However, providing their family with a comfortable life

has come at a high price.

I can leave at seven in the morning, the kids will be in bed.

Then I can get in maybe ten o'clock at night, and they're back in bed.

It seems to be at the point at the minute where

we're just living together, but separate lives.

Desperate for a better quality of life with his family,

Craig thinks the answer is to move to Australia.

The reason for the move is hopefully to spend more quality time

before the girls grow up - and I just miss everything.

I've missed so much up to now, I just don't want to miss any more.

Moving to the other side of the world is a massive undertaking,

and it raises plenty of questions.

It's like trying to fix something that isn't broken.

Why? We've got a lovely life, lovely home, nice lifestyle.

It's that itch you can't scratch,

there's just something there, we have to...

It's that nagging in the background that...

It's your fault, you put it there. Yeah. It's all your fault.

But the girls aren't convinced by the idea of a new life Down Under.

It's all a big...fuzz.

I'd love to try it, but it's whether I'd like it or not.

And being away from family and friends, like -

it's a bit out of my comfort zone.

I don't exactly really, really, really, really want to go,

because of all the members of the family.

There's even more pressure on Ellie,

as she'd be leaving behind her biological father.

I'll miss my dad, I'll miss my Nana, I'll miss my best friend so much,

words can't even describe, like...

I'm crying now. Erm...

I'm not sure, I just...

I'd try and make new friends, but they'd never replace

what I've got here.

So...

It's a massive dilemma for Ellie.

The whole move could end up resting on her shoulders.

You'd feel like we was abandoning her and leaving her behind.

Say, right, you stay here, we're going over to start a new...

You just couldn't do that. You can't leave one of your kids. No.

And the children aren't the only concern. Lisa has another big worry.

People say they go, and they have this big party, but

I don't even know if I could have a party

and say goodbye to all those people.

I won't be able to be there if they need me, and that'll be really hard,

because I'll just feel like I'm letting them down.

I wish I could just pick them all up

and take them with me -

but it's our dream, it's not theirs.

The Hoes are in an agonising position.

Even with her doubts about Australia,

both Craig and Lisa want a better future for their children.

But if moving Down Under runs the risk of splitting the family,

that's the last thing they'll be giving them.

The Hoes want to see if Queensland's Gold Coast could offer them

an ideal location for a new start.

It's Australia's sixth largest city,

and should have plenty of work,

housing and lifestyle possibilities.

But selling it to Lisa and Ellie could be a big ask for Craig.

With this in mind, the Hoes speed off to their base for the week.

They'll be staying in a four-bedroom house in the area of Pacific Pines.

Hopefully it'll get them off to a good start.

Whoo-hoo, it's nice and warm!

Have a look...

Very nice. Rocking horse! Oh!

It looks like there's something for everyone.

You've got your walk-in wardrobe. Ye-hey!

That is ace.

I'm happy.

Spot on.

Those are very positive sounds,

and these are two very happy girls.

Mine!

Not Mummy's, not Daddy's, mine!

Craig and Lisa also seem to have found what they're looking for.

Look at that view! Wow!

It is like living the dream, isn't it? Look at it.

It's like what we pictured, isn't it? Perfect. It is.

No, it's better than I imagined.

The house is certainly a great start for their Australian adventure.

However, Ellie is aware that her decision

will affect everyone else's future.

Mum's been talking to me about it a lot, asking if I'd want to go,

but I don't know, I don't... I haven't...

This is the first time I've been,

so I just need to know what's what, really.

I'm just scared of making the wrong decision.

With so much to deal with over the coming week,

there will be difficult decisions for everyone.

Like most new arrivals,

the Hoes are keen to find their perfect Aussie home.

But with high property prices and low exchange rates,

the reality of what's affordable could be very different.

So, will they be in for a nasty surprise?

In the UK, they live in a four- bedroom detached house near Hull,

that they've made into a home they love.

For Lisa to give it up for a house in Australia,

there's one feature it must have.

If there was a choice, pool or walk-in wardrobe,

I would be having the walk-in wardrobe! We'll go to the beach.

I was like, "Mum, you can get a walk-in wardrobe here."

She was like, "No, but I like Australian walk-in wardrobes."

I was like, "Mum, they're exactly the same." What's the difference?!

Exactly!

To help find their ideal home, we're going to give the Hoes a taste

of the Australian property market.

We'll show them three different properties,

ranging from their dream home to what they can afford.

Then we'll reveal the price of each house. First up,

in Upper Coomera, which is just a short drive to the beaches,

Brisbane, and close to parks and shopping centres.

It could have everything the Hoes want from a house,

but will it be to their taste?

Nice, isn't it? No, not really.

I don't think Lisa's impressed,

Let's have a look at the rest. Not what I was thinking.

It needs a bit of work, doesn't it? It's not the work.

I just don't like the layout. I... It's dark.

It's a terrible start, but at least it does have a walk-in wardrobe.

That isn't a walk-in wardrobe - it's not what I was thinking.

I don't like it.

OK. And the style isn't quite to Lisa's taste, either.

It's old-fashioned, it's like a nana's house.

Coming down? Yes!

OK, OK! What about the rest of the house?

A lot smaller, aren't they? Small-sized rooms.

I feel claustrophobic in here. I just...need a shower.

Is this the bedroom, or...?

This will be the fourth bedroom, won't it? I think so.

It's got to be. Can't use this as a bedroom!

This is the size I want my wardrobe to be!

Clearly, this isn't their dream home.

Even Craig is struggling with this property.

The pool's not helping.

Even with my vision, and what I can do with places, but it's not...

Girls, what do you think?

Would I move to Australia for a house like this?

It's not the Australian dream, more a nightmare, this house.

It's a bad start for Craig - this house is not to their taste.

But can the price make a difference? Is this all they can afford

on their ?250,000 budget,

or is their ideal home still within their reach?

See what it's worth. Do you want to have a guess or...?

Just open it.

So... 200 and... 247,000.

That's similar to... 250? Yeah.

250 grand for this. Yeah.

I couldn't spend another minute in it, let alone a lifetime.

No. No. No way.

It's...

It's awful. Yeah.

I didn't think it were that much. No!

That's a blow. It's nearly as much as their UK home is worth.

Does this mean the right home will be too much for their budget?

The next house is in the area of Coombabah. It's close to the beach,

and has plenty of outdoor space for the Aussie lifestyle.

After the disappointment of the first property,

can this house lift their spirits?

Don't like it again. It's quite small again, isn't it?

A lot smaller than the other one, isn't it? Is that a kitchen?

That's the kitchen. It doesn't even look like a kitchen.

It isn't on a par with what we've got at home.

Oh, dear. Another disappointing start.

And the bedrooms aren't helping.

Can't believe how small the bedrooms are.

They're just so small.

It's not small where you can cope with it, it's just too small.

I wouldn't be able to have a bedroom this size.

But all the bedrooms are this size. Yeah.

Do you want this bedroom, Libs? No.

If this is Australian life, then you can keep it, because I don't want it.

It's going from bad to worse. No-one can see the point

in making the move for this house.

There's no pool, and it's really dark.

We're coming here to have a better lifestyle,

and so that we can spend more time as a family.

We couldn't relax in somewhere like this.

I wouldn't want to spend time as a family - I would be fed-up.

Yeah. However much I want to make the move,

I wouldn't bring them across if this was all we could afford.

However much it would shatter the dream that I have to come,

I couldn't do it to them.

Is there any chance of the price helping?

With everyone so disheartened by the size of this house,

could Craig's dream be over?

Time to find out what it's worth.

BOTH: 270.

That's ?22,000 over what they hope to get for their home in the UK.

When I think what I could buy at home for that, it's a no-brainer.

I wouldn't feel happy living here.

I would... I would be on the first plane back home.

With such disappointment over the first two properties,

Craig really needs to find a house

that his family can see themselves living in. Fast.

Everything hinges on the last property.

Returning to where they started, the last house is also in Upper Coomera area.

However, it's a different proposition from the first one.

It's a new build on a new development and Craig's last chance of convincing the family.

This is what I expected. Yes!

ALL: Oh!

Ha-ha-ha. Now you're talking.

Wow!

It seems the Hoes have finally arrived. Buy it!

ELLIE GIGGLES

CHILDREN LAUGH Oh.

My goodness. It's amazing, isn't it?

Ah!

With four bedrooms and two receptions,

this house is sounding like it could be right up their street.

I love it.

It's fab.

This is the Aussie dream.

Yeah. Defo. This is what we were thinking.

It's perfect.

Upstairs, things get even better.

Oh! LAUGHTER

This is my room!

And Lisa's found just what she's always wanted.

LISA GASPS

Walk-in wardrobe. I am happy now.

I'm hyperventilating!

We can all have a double bed each!

Do you like it? Yes.

This is the dream house.

Suddenly, it seems everything is looking very different.

Look at this! Have the Hoes finally found their dream house?

It's gorgeous. Look at the view. I just love it.

If we came out, this is what we'd be living in.

By hook or by crook, it's just... This is what we're coming for.

We look out of upstairs windows, we look at cooling towers

and wind turbines and sewerage treatment plants.

It's just... It's like another world.

It is like another world.

This house has got everyone singing a very different tune

from the first two, but can they afford it?

If it's out of their reach, could it end Craig's hopes of emigrating?

Time to find out the price.

I don't want to know.

That's ?70,000 over their budget.

I thought it would be a lot more than that, to be fair. I did. A lot more.

Despite appearing to be out of reach,

the Hoes are convinced this is the house for them.

You always want to do better in life

and the other houses, I wasn't doing better, it was a step back,

not a step forward, whereas this is a step forward.

I'd move here tomorrow. Me, too.

I don't want to leave!

It's a huge relief to Craig and a big comeback for his hopes.

I'm off the ropes. I'm coming back fighting. I'm happy.

I'm happy.

See you soon, house.

HE CHUCKLES I know!

The first house was a bad start for everyone,

even though it had a walk-in wardrobe.

The second fared no better and didn't lift their spirits.

But the third house was a completely different story

and gave everyone fresh hope,

although it could be a struggle to afford.

Is Craig's hope of emigrating in with a fighting chance? It's time to find out.

My vote goes to...

..Australia! Australia. Australia.

Everybody shows Australia. Based on the last property. Yeah. Not the first two, definitely.

I'd really want the UK, if it was the first two. If we can live in a house like the last one,

definitely Australia.

That's a great start for Craig's hopes.

But it comes with a serious price tag

if Lisa and Ellie won't consider Oz without a dream house to sweeten the deal.

That would mean both Craig and Lisa finding decent work prospects

and salaries.

Being self-employed, Craig has to work very long hours,

missing out on family life, something he's desperate to avoid in Australia.

If it's the same hours I'm working back home,

that's not going to give me the family time that I want.

It's just geography, it's not going to make a better lifestyle for us.

We've arranged for Craig to work with Stuart, who has a similar business on the Gold Coast.

It's a day of getting back to basics.

It's like the good old days, fetching and carrying.

The lackey, heh?! I haven't been one of them for a while.

It might be fine for a day, but Craig is concerned about his long-term prospects.

If we did make the move over,

would the job opportunities be there, do you think?

At the moment, the way things are, I'd say it'll be pretty tough.

Yeah. At the moment.

They seem to think that things will pick up in the next 18 months

and the housing market will pick up again. Yeah.

Once the housing picks up again, not a problem.

That doesn't sound great.

In the UK, Lisa is a self-employed hairdresser.

After her disappointment with property,

what she can earn could make all the difference.

If we need where I have to work more, I think, to get that home,

then, yeah, I would put in them extra hours just for that walk-in wardrobe!

She's having a try-out at a large salon in a mall.

It's quite different to what she's used to.

Lisa, have you ever worked in a big chain before, or in a big company?

No, I rent a chair in a salon, so I pay rent and whatever I earn is mine.

'The different working style also means a difference in pay.'

Are the wages pretty good? Yeah, definitely.

Um, you know, from your first years to your seniors,

definitely between 15 to 20, I think, an hour.

'That's ?10-?12 an hour, a lot less than Lisa brings home in the UK,

however there is a silver lining.'

Price-wise, if you were to do a semi, how much would you charge?

For that, you're probably looking at 99.95.

In England, I would charge 45 for that, so,

it's like a ?20 difference.

OK.

It is more expensive to get your hair done here than there.

So earning potential is obviously going to be more here. Definitely. Which is good.

That sounds more encouraging for Lisa.

Across town, Craig is keen to find out about his earning potential.

Salary-wise, do you know roughly what...? You'd probably get work...

If you worked for someone you're probably looking at around 60 grand a year.

That's around ?37,000,

more than Craig takes home in the UK.

But would it mean an end to the gruelling hours that come with being self-employed?

You'll be in that situation. Nothing changes when you work for yourself.

That's the nature of the beast.

If you want quality time with your wife and kids,

you'd probably work for someone

and you'd probably start at seven, knock off three, four o'clock.

Weekends are yours, your after hours are yours.

That's just what Craig wanted to hear. There she goes.

Lovely.

Done. All right. Excellent.

First bit of Aussie plumbing!

So a good day for Craig,

but how will Lisa vote after her first experience of work in Australia?

Based on the salon I was in today

and the earning potential here...

..I would go with...

..UK.

The wages are a bit rubbish, really, compare to the UK,

compared to what I earn at home when I work for myself.

I prefer my UK salon.

That's a setback for Craig's hopes of convincing Lisa to emigrate.

How does he feel about working in Australia?

Based on what I've found out today on job prospects

and whether there's work out there for me and the lifestyle which I'm seeking,

I am voting for...

..Australia.

For me, to be able to finish work and have a happy medium with the family is not possible at home.

At the end of the day, it's going to be worth it.

The lure of more time with his family has persuaded Craig that Australia is the place to be.

But he still has to convince Lisa.

The promise of a better work-life balance has won Craig over,

but Lisa's doubt keeps growing.

What may help is her and Ellie speaking to a family who have been through the same dilemmas.

Craig and Lisa are off to see the Wilsons.

They're old friends who emigrated two years ago

and they've laid on a traditional British welcome with an Aussie twist -

tea and cakes by the pool.

And thoughts soon turn to being so far from loved ones.

My dad came over and I had to go to work the day he left

because I could see in his eyes he was getting upset and I was. I just had to go.

I can't imagine. You've left them, and that would be really hard,

then you get them back for a bit and then they've got to go again. I just can't imagine.

I don't miss... I don't miss anything about England, nothing,

apart from my family.

But, at the end of the day, my family's here

and we've done it for a better lifestyle.

By the pool, Ellie is also sharing her worries with Ruby.

I'm just worried that I won't make friends if I do come here. I know I've got you,

but it's like other friends, with college and stuff.

Are they real friendly, is it easy?

I thought the same, "I'm never going to make any friends."

But I did and they're, like, really nice.

But at the table, Lisa's doubts are growing.

Part of me feels like, "Yes, let's do it,"

because I don't want to live life without regrets, I don't want to wake up in 15 years' time.

You've got to do it for yourself. You just do feel guilty. You do feel like...

You'll have weeks where you'll be good and you're on a high

and then you'll go downhill.

You're putting too much pressure on yourself.

Life is for living, at the end of day, and this is what it's all about.

This visit to close friends has shown that the ups and downs of moving so far from home.

Will it help or hinder Craig's desire for a new life down under?

See you later.

With Lisa missing home,

some quality time together could be very welcome for the Hoes.

For them, moving to Australia has always been about finding a better quality of life.

So it could be a big step forward

if the Gold Coast can deliver the lifestyle they want.

They've come to Currumbin Animal Park to see

if Australia can give them the time together they want.

Libby would like to be a zookeeper when she grows up

and she's showing early promise.

Smile, Lise!

It's like you've been separated at birth!

For the girls, this is a rare treat, not just because of the wildlife.

It's really nice having time to spend with Dad

because we don't really get to do that much in England

cos his job's so full on, cos he works for himself.

Does it look like Daddy having a sleep? Yeah!

It seems Craig's plan has worked a treat.

Today has won everyone over.

To be here and to see all of this

and to see Craig with the girls has just been fantastic.

I didn't think it would be...

It's just been fantastic.

I think I want to live in Australia.

However, there are still worries about one member of the family.

Ellie said she felt under pressure before we even came.

She feels like she would be quashing our dreams, really.

My dream is that we're all together and happy

and we wouldn't be if one of us was at the other side of the world.

But Ellie's doubts have reminded them of just how big a price

they may have to pay if they do choose to make the move for good.

Australia.

Australia. Australia. Australia.

Woohoohoo!

LAUGHTER

I knew you were going to do something.

MAKES MONKEY NOISES

No, don't you dare!

That's a resounding yes

and it's made Lisa realise something has to change.

Listening to Libby earlier,

saying that it was lovely spending time with dad.

It chokes me up. It's really sad

that she's finding this really special

cos she should have done a lot more of this at her age.

But even though she voted for the Australian lifestyle,

Ellie is still feeling the weight of the decision riding on her shoulders.

I feel a bit under pressure that...

it's about me. If I want to move, then they'll go.

But if I don't want to, then they won't. It's a bit...

..daunting to think that the decision is on me.

Cos that's not what I want.

I don't want to stand in their way

but it looks like I've got no choice.

The benefits of the Gold Coast lifestyle are a much-needed boost for the Hoes' spirits.

But it also gave them a glimpse of the future they could enjoy as a family.

However, Ellie's worries remain

and there's another obstacle in their path.

The Hoes' house in the UK is a modern, four-bedroom detached property

that they've lovingly extended,

and believe to be worth around ?250,000.

They'll need to get every penny to be able

to afford the kind of house they'd love in Australia.

So, we sent round two estate agents to give us their professional opinion.

A lovely remodelled kitchen.

Very clean lines.

'Modern, contemporary.'

Oh, he wiped his feet. Nice man!

Well, this is a very nice modern living space.

The feature fire really sets the room off.

A very nice, elegant bedroom.

Lovely decor.

Wow! Now this is a bathroom!

Absolutely fantastic.

A lovely place to stretch out. Fabulous.

All my hard work, there. Look, look.

'I'd put it on the market for ?195,000, and for a quick sale,'

I'd be looking between ?180-185,000.

That's over ?50,000 less

than they were hoping for. That's a shock, innit?

In the current market place,

'I'd suggest an asking price of about 220,000'

with a "for sale" value of probably 210.

I thought when we got it done before it was miles more than that. It was, but the house prices have dropped.

Oh, that's rubbish.

We'd have to re-evaluate and assess what property we could afford to buy,

and how that would affect us. Yeah.

The low value of their house has come as a real blow to the Hoes.

Their dream life in Australia is now hanging in the balance.

We've prepared a breakdown of living costs

to see if there's any way of affording the move.

There's nothing on here

that is anywhere near the price.

It's all at least double, if not triple.

It's ridiculous.

You're looking at a good, what, ?60 more, aren't you, on the shop?

Yeah...per week.

That's my shoe money gone out the window.

The day-to-day costs are coming out higher than back home.

Craig could earn slightly more in Australia, but how will the figures add up?

Shall I press it? Yeah.

?1,670.58p...

overdrawn!

Well, it's...

So, to live here, to live the dream...

That would cost us 1,670 quid a month more.

Yeah.

Doing the maths has highlighted just how difficult this move would be.

Could Lisa and Craig afford to live in Australia?

Time to vote on the cost of living.

Our vote goes to....

..the UK. The UK.

Based on the figures that we've got in front of us,

and on going for the property that we've looked at,

I'd have to vote - even though I want to move out here -

I can't...

I couldn't say Australia for that because it's just not,

it doesn't make financial sense.

Yeah.

Seeing their living costs in black and white

has shaken even Craig's confidence about the move.

But the biggest challenge facing the Hoes is dealing

with the pain of leaving loved ones behind.

Lisa and Craig know that seeing messages from home could be a painful experience for the children.

But they've decided to watch it together, as a family.

Hi! Hi, guys! I hope you're having a fantastic time.

'Hi, guys. I hope you're having'

the best ever time and it's everything you expect.

Ellie, the firstborn, is just....

I'm so proud of her. She's just...

She's amazing.

And Libby...

She's just a miniature Lisa - loves adventure.

And Poppy, the little dancer, that's what I call her.

I couldn't wish for three more beautiful grandchildren.

I was gutted to hear

that they may be going to Australia to live.

Obviously I don't want them to.

They're my world, em...

I'll miss them loads and loads.

I hope you're having a fantastic time,

but I hope you're not enjoying it too much.

For my own reasons, you know I don't want you to go. I'll miss you all like crazy.

I love you all so much. I love you all.

I love you all lots.

Hey, bro, come back to England, mate.

She's my best friend.

'I take you for granted'

but when I know that I'm not going to see you again...

..it really tears at me.

Nana's just being silly again, as usual.

I do love you all...so much.

I can't go on.

THEY SOB

Watching their loved ones was a harrowing reminder

of all they stand to lose should they decide to move.

If they can't cope with the pain of leaving,

then it will mean walking away from their dream forever.

With their future in the balance, it's time to make the final choice.

It's been a challenging week for everyone.

Craig and Lisa have fallen for the lifestyle they could lead in Australia,

but as the final vote approaches, are they certain where their future lies?

For Craig, it's all been about a better family life.

I feel guilty that when we're back in the UK

that I don't get to spend as much quality time with them as I'd like.

When I was growing up, my dad worked away a lot. I didn't see him a lot,

and I just don't want that to happen with my kids.

But Ellie is afraid of leaving behind the people she loves.

It's not as easy to leave your friends as it sounds.

It's not just round the corner.

It's the other side of the world.

I don't really know what I'd do without my friends that I've got now.

And Lisa is stuck in the middle.

I do feel really torn

between the UK and Oz.

You know, Craig really wants this, but I feel torn between Australia

and the life I've got. I really don't know.

So, after a week of tough choices,

when it comes to the crucial final decision,

which way will they go?

We've had a brilliant week. We've had our highs and lows.

We're going to make the vote on where we want to live,

whether it be the UK or Australia, so on that I'm voting for...

Australia. Australia.

Australia.

Australia.

What's the matter? I just feel really bad. Why?

I don't know. I just feel really torn.

I'm surprised with your vote, obviously,

but I'm glad you're willing to give it a try.

And I love you!

The Hoes' week showed that the journey to a new life

is fraught with pain and challenges.

Even though they all agreed on Australia,

they're aware of the sacrifices they still have to make.

The family faced a truly difficult decision Down Under,

but were they able to stick with their choice?

'A month after they returned, I travelled to Hull

'to meet up with Lisa and Craig.' Hi. Nice to see you both.

Tell me how the week was for the two of you.

For me, I loved it. I just felt

like I belonged. I felt like I...

It was like Craig stepped off the plane, and for him,

he said, "I feel like I've just come home."

But it wasn't quite the same for you, was it?

Not at all. I'm a bit of a control freak.

There, I felt like a fish out of water.

I said to Craig, "I'm still not there yet. I'm still not where you are."

And he just said, "Look, I'm not happy," and it shocked me.

I sat back and I was like, "You know, if he's not happy,

"then we need to do something about it."

You know, it's his life as well as ours.

Now I know it was critical that your eldest daughter, Ellie,

felt comfortable about possibly making the move.

And there was a big question mark.

It was such a big thing, wasn't it,

for her to see Australia, to see it?

But I think she sees more opportunity there.

She absolutely... She cried in the airport.

As we were leaving, she was like, "I don't want to go. Please, I don't want to go back."

I really didn't expect that. I really didn't expect her

to like it as much as she did, to the point where she was upset.

So, it's cards on the table time. Craig, I'm going to start with you.

How definite is this move?

For me, 100% cos I still feel it's the right move

for us as a family.

Lisa?

I am... 100%, I know it's the right thing to do.

The future for the girls is there.

It's so much better. I know it's the right thing to do,

for Craig as well. So...

I'm 100%.

It looks as if Ellie's now very much on board with the move.

But there's one vital piece of the jigsaw remaining.

Australia brought home

just how much Lisa would miss her family and friends.

So I've invited her cousin, Kelly,

to help her take that final big step.

So, a lot of this move, in a funny way,

does depend on your thoughts on them going out, and really,

in a way, whether it's with your blessing.

It's tough, isn't it?

That's how much family means.

It's just going to be hard to go.

We've seen how the whole family have voted,

but because you are so much part of their lives,

we would actually like you to be part of that vote as well,

cos I know, especially for Lisa, it's critical.

So, I know this is going to be really hard.

So, Kelly, the whole family moving out to Australia...?

Regretfully...

Just for them. Obviously, for me...

I want them here. 110%, I want them to stay.

That's true friendship, isn't it?

And guess who's going to be the first person coming to visit?!

She'll be saving up for her air fare.

Well, emotions are still running high in that household,

but Lisa and Craig are united in what's best for their girls.

And that's a new life in Australia.

I think if they get their way,

they're going to be heading Down Under in literally a few months' time.

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