Gill Family Wanted Down Under


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At some point, most of us dream of a brand-new start in a far-off land,

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but the reality of uprooting your lives can be a tough process

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for any family to face, especially when it can mean

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leaving behind one of your children.

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It's a big gamble to move your family all the way to Australia

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based on childhood memories.

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What have I done dragging everyone around the world?

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Especially when the reality turns out to be very different.

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I can't believe the house prices here are so expensive.

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We seem to be stuck in the same rut.

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Very disappointing.

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And it threatens to tear your family apart.

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I'm going to let someone down.

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With so much at stake,

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could you make the decision to start a new life Down Under?

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Australia is the most popular country for Brits moving abroad.

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They may be tempted by its 10,000 beaches,

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sunny climate and famous relaxed lifestyle.

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But life Down Under doesn't always deliver the paradise newcomers may imagine.

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Amongst the latest new arrivals are the Gill family from Plymouth.

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Ahead of them are some huge decisions

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as they sample life in Australia for one week.

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At the end of it, they'll have to make a final choice -

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to stay in the UK or start a new life Down Under.

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Their journey to Australia is long a 9,000 miles.

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After nearly 24 hours in the air,

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the Gills arrive in Perth tired and a little unprepared.

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I forgot how long it takes you to get here.

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And we've arrived and it's raining. We've brought the weather with us.

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I've brought the wrong clothes!

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The journey has brought home the difficulties of travelling so far.

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It is a huge distance. And, yeah, absolutely shattered.

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We're only at the airport and it's starting to hit home.

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They'll need to get plenty of rest

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as they have a tough week ahead in Australia, a long way from home.

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39-year-old Kevin and wife Charlotte, 48, have two children,

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daughter Samantha, who is 22, and son George, who's nine.

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The Gills live in the coastal town of Plymouth in Devon

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where Kevin has served in the Royal Navy for 20 years.

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But with retirement looming for Kevin the family is about to begin

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a new chapter of their lives.

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Obviously, the Navy's looked after us with the house, the work

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but now that's coming to an end, that support's going to disappear.

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With Kevin leaving the Navy, we lose accommodation, we lose housing.

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We need to find new housing, he also needs to find a new job.

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With everything looking uncertain,

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Charlotte believes their future could lie in Australia.

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I was a Ten Pound Pom. We moved out to Australia when I was two,

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with my brothers and sisters, and my father went to work in a mining town.

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The family lifestyle was brilliant, we had a nice little house.

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We used to go roaming around the bush.

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The opportunity to give my children that lifestyle would be fantastic.

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I'd like to show Kevin the reason why I enjoyed it so much.

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Living in Australia could make a difference for Charlotte's health.

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I suffer from a condition called ankylosing spondylitis.

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It affects the joints and it's affected by the weather.

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So, the temperate climate offered in Perth, I'm hoping will benefit.

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However, uprooting their lives and starting again

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on the other side of the world is not going to be plain sailing.

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The potential for disaster is huge.

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There is a lot of pressure on me right now.

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I'm feeling it for once. It's on my shoulders now.

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There's no support network, it's just me.

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If I don't get it right, we're goosed.

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But Kevin isn't the only one with doubts.

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Their daughter Samantha is feeling torn.

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At the moment there seems to be a big decision looming.

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I know my family would probably love to live in Australia,

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would absolutely love it,

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but I know they wouldn't move there without me.

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But I couldn't leave my boyfriend behind in the UK.

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So it's quite a tough call at the moment

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because I'm going to let down someone.

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It's a painful subject with no easy answers.

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I don't think I could miss seeing my brother grow up.

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I'd like to be there for him because I'm very protective of him.

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So I don't think I could miss out on being the protective older sister.

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I'm going to let someone down.

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So...

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Yeah.

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If Sam decides to stay in the UK,

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Charlotte will be torn between fulfilling a lifelong dream

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and leaving her daughter behind.

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I don't know how I'd deal with it.

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I can't even imagine it, so...

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I don't know how I would.

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I can't tell you how I'd feel because I can't imagine it.

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The Gills are at a turning point in their lives.

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With Kevin facing retirement they have to make a new start

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wherever they choose to live.

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And what's most important to Charlotte and Kevin

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is sharing that future with the whole family.

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Their home these seven days will be in Fremantle,

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on the coast just south of Perth.

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It's one of the most desirable areas in Western Australia.

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However, the Gills will have to wait until tomorrow

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to see how beautiful it is.

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And the journey in the dark and wet isn't quite living up

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to Charlotte's fond memories of Australia.

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I remember it being warmer than this! It's freezing!

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-But the house is lovely. Really nice.

-It's very liveable, isn't it.

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It's lovely. Really cool.

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Oh, wow. Oh, it's two levels.

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I know what type of house this is. An upside down house.

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Oh, wow!

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Everyone is impressed

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but they're also keeping their feet on the ground.

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It's really nice but could we be able to afford somewhere like this?

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-Location is everything.

-It depends on work.

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Well, I know house prices have gone mental in Western Australia.

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As the main visa applicant, Kevin is well aware

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of the job difficulties he faces.

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I've been in the same sort of comfort zone for the last 20 years.

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I'm stepping away from that so it's going to be a culture shock.

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To do it in another country is a secondary culture shock.

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You know...

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It's going to be difficult.

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Sam is also feeling the pressure.

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I'm stuck in the middle between moving to Australia

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or leaving, potentially, leaving behind someone.

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I don't think I can, so...

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It's Charlotte's childhood memories that have driven her

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to move the family to Fremantle, but now even she's having doubts.

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We figured out that it's 29 years, since I left Australia.

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-Yeah. It may have changed.

-It might have changed slightly.

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It may not be the Fremantle or Western Australia I thought it was.

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It's a worry. What an earth have I done dragging the family

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half-way round the world and it could actually be awful.

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With the Gills already feeling the pressure of the move,

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the next seven days could be very difficult.

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If Charlotte's dream of living Down Under is to become a reality,

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finding the right house in the right area will be crucial.

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But trying to please everyone could be a major challenge.

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In the UK, the Gills live in a Navy house in Plymouth,

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which they're sadly having to leave.

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Life's pretty good here.

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Very happy here. It's a nice area, very nice, friendly people here.

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Within minutes of a city, minutes to the countryside,

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minutes to the sea.

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Very happy here, but we know we can't stay.

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And they're being modest about what they want in Australia.

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Don't want masses, don't want a massive house.

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We don't want masses of land.

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Three bedrooms would be nice, but four, if we could afford that we've got to look and see.

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But somewhere near the sea or overlooking the sea.

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Wouldn't that be stunning? But that would be a dream property,

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we don't realistically expect to get that.

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But if we could be within walking distance of the sea

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or even a five-minute drive, that would be lovely as well.

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Today, we'll give the Gills a taste of Perth's housing market.

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We'll show them three possible options

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based upon what they want from their ideal home,

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what they can afford and the real price of property Down Under.

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After they get to see what's on offer,

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we'll reveal to the family just how much each house costs.

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However, with big rises in Australian property prices,

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finding the ideal home could be a big ask.

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House prices are even higher near the coast so we're heading a few miles inland to the Wellard area.

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This new suburb on the outskirts of Perth is popular with families

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and with a university nearby, could suit Samantha.

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Will this three-bedroom house have everything the Gills want?

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Oh, wow.

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Oh, wow, that's pretty cool.

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-That'll do!

-This would so be my TV, games room.

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OK. Sorted. That's really nice, isn't it?

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Oh, wow! I like the idea of this, actually.

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This is really a family area.

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Well, this house is a definite hit.

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In fact, I think Charlotte has already moved in.

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-This bit would be so nice with our table.

-It would.

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-I like the breakfast bar.

-Me too.

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I think it's really cool. I think it's a real family area.

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That's what I like about Australian houses,

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everybody sits and eats and talks together.

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I can see now what you're on about.

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There's loads of light, loads of windows.

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It's all going very well,

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but the small garden might change their tune.

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Nice eating area but I think this is obviously small,

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the outside area.

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I think you could buy bigger plots, know what I mean?

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But I like the size of the house, I think it's plenty big enough.

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Compared to what we're living in in the UK, so far,

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everything we live in the UK would fit in that one main room!

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It's really nice.

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-Can you see us here?

-Yeah. I can see you guys here.

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-Can you see yourself here?

-Don't know.

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Mmm, Sam's not sounding so enthused,

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maybe the walk-in wardrobes might persuade her to think otherwise.

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Sorry, Sam, but I think this might be mummy's area.

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OK. Forget that idea.

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Probably best to leave it to Mum. She's enjoying this house.

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I think it's really, really nice.

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-But, I've used the word nice a lot, I haven't gone...

-Said "awesome".

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No. It's a really nice place, don't get me wrong,

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-but it's a little bit soulless.

-Sterile.

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-Not a lot of character.

-It's fresh.

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Yes, fresh and modern.

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-It's different.

-Yeah, it's different to what we're used to

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-and I like the wardrobe.

-I love the wardrobe.

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All that remains now is to find out the price.

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Although Charlotte could see them living here,

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is it anywhere near their £200,000 budget

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or will they have to set their sights a lot lower?

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-It's quite scary actually because we could be really out of it.

-Yeah.

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-205.

-£205,000.

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-But the AD.

-320,000 dollars. £205,000.

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It's a good start - that could be within their budget,

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as long as Kevin can find the right job.

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That's a surprise. We could actually do that.

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That's sensible. We could do that without having a huge mortgage.

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That's crazy. You get so much more for your money.

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However, they're not planning on moving in.

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I think the location's a bit remote.

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I love the house but I think it's a long way from everywhere.

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Yeah. We were hoping more of a, sort of, walk into town

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and more amenities close by.

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It's really out the way.

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Do you think it's better at George's age where he can play outside?

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Yeah, I can't really go and hang out, you know,

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with my skateboard on a street corner!

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It's a good start to their house-hunting,

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but the Gills have still got a long way to go.

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The next house is in the Success Area.

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It's closer to the coast, and heavy industries

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where Kevin might find suitable work.

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Being popular with British immigrants, it could help the Gills

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feel at home more quickly.

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It's a four-bedroom house with plenty of space for a family.

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-It's a very strange space, isn't it?

-Yeah.

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A definite drop in light compared to the other place.

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It seems quite dark, The layout's a bit weird.

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-All the lights are on and it's still quite dark.

-Yeah.

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-Oh, this is wow!

-Kitchen area.

-It's still very, very dark.

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-Really dark.

-It's lovely and open.

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I bet it's nice and cool though.

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Charlotte's not sounding convinced

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but something has caught George's eye.

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What do I see over there?

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What's that, son?

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-A pool.

-No way?!

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-This is so awesome.

-Yes! A swimming pool!

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Although no one seems to be rushing in.

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-It's huge!

-I dare you to jump in.

-I dare you to jump in.

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-I'll give you ten dollars.

-I'll give you a hundred dollars.

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-You don't have a hundred dollars!

-I do!

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That might sweeten the deal a bit, a pool for the boy.

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-Yeah...

-We won't be able to keep him out of it.

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He'd like the outdoor lifestyle.

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-Come on, let's have a look.

-Yeah, let's have a look.

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This house might be very spacious,

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but Charlotte is still full of doubts.

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-This is huge.

-This must be the master bedroom, darling.

-Wow.

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-It's a lovely big window.

-I don't know.

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It's really dark in the middle and I don't like that.

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You could put a sky light in, or something, would bring you light,

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-but then again you're spending on top.

-That's true, yeah.

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And it's got a lovely pool by the looks of it,

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but that's obviously going to add to the value.

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-I've been underwhelmed by the house, to be honest.

-Yeah?

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Although Charlotte is losing interest in this house,

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the children have very different thoughts.

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-The pool is amazing isn't it?

-Yeah,

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-the pool changed my mind completely.

-Really?

-Yeah.

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So, some of them have been won over,

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but there's still the small matter of the cost.

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Could the Gills actually afford this house?

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Time to find out the price.

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The price is £287,000.

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-Crikey.

-I thought it was going to be expensive because it's got a pool

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but it's taking up the whole garden. That's a lot of money.

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-It's a big step up.

-And the fourth bedroom.

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-And we don't need either.

-No.

-We do need the pool, though.

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We'd like a pool, but we don't need a pool.

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We need a pool, we need a pool!

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This house is nearly £90,000 over their budget.

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Everything now depends on the last property.

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Set in the area of Baldivis, it's close to the sea with shops,

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cafes and parks nearby.

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However, it is 30 miles from Perth

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meaning a long commute if Kevin was to work there.

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Will this luxury four-bedroom house impress the Gills?

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I prefer this area to the second one. It immediately looks much nicer.

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Hopefully, the inside will also be to Charlotte's liking.

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Mmm...

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-Oh, my word.

-Wow, that's a proper cinema room.

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That is amazing.

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Clearly, we can't afford, don't touch anything.

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I think she likes what she sees.

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It's a bit posh.

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-And George has also seen something he likes.

-I just saw a pool!

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This is really nice.

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Along with the pool,

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the layout seems to have taken Charlotte's fancy.

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This is a nice size, because you've got the freshness

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but you've not got it too big.

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It doesn't take up the whole garden.

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You've still got greenery in other areas.

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Oh, mum, this is way better than the second house, isn't it?

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It's quieter, isn't it, as well...

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DOG BARKING LOUDLY

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Oops, spoke too soon.

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DOG BARKING LOUDLY

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You've got to be kidding me!

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It was all going so well, but now...

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I'm not sure this is the quiet outdoor lifestyle that we were really thinking of.

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It's a pity because I like the house so far. It's a beautiful house.

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We are, literally...

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you know, overlooking the next place. It's mad.

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Perhaps it's best to get back inside to the peace and quiet.

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-Hopefully, the bedrooms can turn things around.

-Oh, this is nice.

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-Wow, look at that.

-Oh, Kev, come and look at this.

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It's got two walk-in wardrobes.

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-Me, me!

-Yeah! One more would do.

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And you've got some drawers.

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The hers and hers walk-in wardrobes

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may have changed Charlotte's tune

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but will she be impressed by the price?

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They have been wowed by the size and finish of the rooms

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and the pool, but is the price too much to bear?

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Time to open the envelope and find out.

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320.

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320,000?

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I know it's got a pool, but it hasn't got any real land.

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It's got all the bedrooms and everything

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but where are the kids going to go outside to play?

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-There, that's it, there's nowhere else.

-No point having the big bedrooms

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-when you can't sleep at night because you've got a massive mortgage.

-We wouldn't contemplate

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buying anything anywhere near that value in the UK.

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We wouldn't contemplate buying anywhere like that in Australia either.

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You've got to take into consideration your illness, too. If you have a flare-up one day

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and you want to quickly walk to the shops without driving,

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-you can't do that here.

-No, no.

-This is a stumbling block.

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I think that's...

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-..not insurmountable, but it IS a stumbling block.

-It is indeed.

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The house impressed everyone but would mean a mortgage

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that Charlotte and Kevin don't want to contemplate.

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Today has been a real eye-opener.

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The first house may have been the cheapest

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but it impressed Kevin and Charlotte the most.

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The second house's pool and garden got the children excited

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until the price brought everyone back down to earth.

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Although the third was luxury living with its cinema room

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and walk-in wardrobes, the neighbourhood was a bit too noisy.

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So, have they been convinced by Australian houses?

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It's time to find out.

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Based on the properties we've seen today, our decision is...

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-Australia!

-England.

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England.

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Just to shake things up a bit.

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-Sam's the only one who chose Australia.

-You did not!

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LAUGHTER

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I tried to be nice for once and not give you any hassle...

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-Did you really like the houses?

-Yeah, I did.

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I do like the one-level bungalow thing.

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I think that's really practical, especially for me.

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I love the size but not the outside. There's not enough room.

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If we're going to pay money, I'd rather we got more in England, something I never thought...

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I can't believe house prices here are so expensive.

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It puts a lot of pressure on you again, you know,

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with only one of us working, it's a huge step,

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and this is what we're trying to obviate coming out here

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to just get away from that in England with the high house prices.

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And, you know, we seem to be stuck in the same rut.

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Very disappointing.

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Charlotte has driven this move

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and has a strong idea of her dream house.

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Unfortunately, she hasn't found it yet.

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The Gills' taste of the local property market

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didn't do enough to swing their vote for Australia

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and finding the home that's right for them could mean a rethink.

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With the trip off to a mixed start, it's all the more important

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that Australia can offer the family

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the kind of lifestyle they want.

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In the UK, Kevin's life in the Navy

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has meant a lot of time away from the home, missing out on the children growing up.

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Now he relishes any chance to spend time with the family

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and hopes Australia could be the answer.

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I'd like to think we can have a similar lifestyle

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just with better weather and more opportunity

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to undertake our hobbies and get out amongst it.

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George, obviously, takes after Kev, he loves watersports.

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I love seeing them together, playing on the beach. I think it's wonderful.

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Today in Perth, they've come for a paddle-boarding lesson.

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The three of us, we'll paddle out on our knees

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heading out that way and when you're both comfortable,

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then we'll stand up.

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While the boys get to mess about on the boards,

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Charlotte and Samantha have a more leisurely day.

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Yay!

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Go on, Georgie. He's going to stand up.

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CHEERING

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He's doing very well, having never done it before.

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Australia is finally starting to live up to Charlotte's memories.

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I remember it being as it is now.

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It's a lot more built-up

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but it's still got the same sort of mentality, in that it's a winter's afternoon here but it's mild,

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you can get out and about, families are having a stroll around, grabbing coffee, spot of lunch.

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I personally would be looking for a life like this that allowed me

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to get outside and feel the sun on my bones because that feels great.

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And Kevin can also see the positive effects on George.

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I think he enjoyed the boarding.

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I think he was surprised how well he did at it.

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Maybe a little bit nervous when we started, wasn't sure,

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but, yeah, really proud of him.

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I've been thinking that Australia's a bit good, actually,

1:08:081:08:12

so it sort of changed my mind.

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However, there's still a big decision facing Samantha,

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whether she gives up her family or gives up her boyfriend.

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Sam is being pulled in the middle.

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She's got to... Either way, she's going to hurt somebody

1:08:231:08:27

but she has to put herself first.

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We've skirted around the subject a few times

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but we haven't talked about it too deeply, because...

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I think we know it's going to end up with both people being upset,

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so we've tried not to. It's there though, it's the big elephant in the room.

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It's difficult to try to keep everyone happy when everyone wants different things.

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And I'm not sure what I want at the moment.

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I couldn't even think seriously about it at the minute actually because...

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I don't think she will. I think she'll come with Mummy.

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Now I'm second, aren't I?

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LAUGHTER

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It's an emotional subject that's also weighing on Kevin's mind.

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If Samantha decided this wasn't for her,

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and she wanted to stay in England,

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I think we'd find it incredibly difficult to leave her.

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We'd be missing a part of us if she wasn't here.

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In that case, we'd seriously have to rethink it.

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I know she's at that age where she's going to fly, and we want to hold onto her for as long as we can.

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So, after a day of sampling the Aussie lifestyle,

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how will they vote?

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Based on our experience today, we've decided to vote for...

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-Australia!

-Half.

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Why half and half, darling?

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I prefer the playgrounds in England

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but it's a pity that you don't get to do it all year round.

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I thought he might go for England,

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but I love the fact that he likes he can play outside all year here.

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Sam, I knew she'd love the lifestyle just based on that

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I know we weren't going to get anything else. I knew she'd love the lifestyle

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-and I thought you'd enjoy it, too.

-It's fantastic.

-I knew I'd like it.

-Not really a shocker.

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Nobody's shocked, yay!

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Charlotte's dream of Australia has moved one step closer to reality

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but will it be with all her family?

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Sampling the Aussie lifestyle was a welcome success for everyone,

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even if the playgrounds did leave a little to be desired.

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But the key to making the move could be

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if Oz can offer Sam a better tomorrow as well as today.

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Samantha has recently finished a degree in social science and wants to go into teaching.

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However, in the UK, competition is very high.

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There aren't any vacancies.

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I applied for teaching assistant positions to get experience

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and they just said there's too many people applying for one position.

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I think if there were better prospects of employment over here, it would...

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..slightly change my opinion of moving to Australia.

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I'd have to have a serious talk with Ivan

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because I can't get anything at the moment in the UK

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so it would definitely change things, I think.

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So we've arranged for her to spend a day at Edith Cowan University

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and get the low-down from some trainee teachers.

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If I wanted to go into primary school teaching over here, what would I have to do at university?

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You're probably looking at doing a grad dip, which is a one-year course.

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It'd give you the skills you need to become a teacher in Western Australia.

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What employment base is here? Are there any walls facing it?

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-Getting a job would be so much easier for you.

-Everyone that comes out of teaching gets a job.

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Especially in the country, a lot of opportunities.

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You learn much more in the country, it's a different world

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and usually by the beach all the time so your school might be round the corner from the beach

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and the country is a lot more relaxed in that sense

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so you'll find that at lunchtime your school might

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go down to the beach and you might sit on the beach

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watching the kids on the beach so it's completely different than here.

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That's encouraging news,

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however Samantha is also concerned about pay

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as teaching didn't measure up to other job options in the UK.

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I was applying for teaching assistant jobs to try to get experience in the meantime.

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I would have to take about a £6,000 reduction in what I would do

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if I went into an office job or something like that.

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Grad dip next year,

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you're looking at an equivalent salary of £38,000.

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-Oh, my God!

-Which... Yeah.

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It's so much salary difference.

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The lifestyle's going to be so much better.

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What I wanted to do in England, it was facing a brick wall,

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trying to get through and it's here there's no wall.

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So, career opportunities in Western Australia sound just like what Sam's looking for.

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However, boyfriend Ivan is on the other side of the world.

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It's confusing. This seems to be the perfect situation in what I want to do

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so I'm not really sure what's going on.

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Ideally I'd just like to move Ivan here and come to this university.

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But I know that nothing pans out the way you want it to.

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Sam's experience may have left her caught in two minds

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but there's even more pressure on Kevin to make the move work.

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As the sole breadwinner,

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he needs Australia to provide enough security and income

1:13:401:13:43

for the whole family.

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In the UK, Kevin works in the Navy as an engineer

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but he's having to retire after 20 years of service.

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With the economic downturn in the UK, work is hard to find

1:13:551:13:59

and he's hoping the situation will be much better Down Under.

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Kevin's engineering background means he has skills

1:14:031:14:06

that are transferable to other industries.

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As mining is booming in Western Australia,

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We've sent him to check out Boddington gold mine near Perth.

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It's a million miles from what he's used to, but it could be an option.

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-It's a huge site.

-It is, one of Australia's biggest sites.

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Tom, from the engineering section, is keen to find out if Kevin could fit in with the company.

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-Tell us a bit about your background.

-I've been working in the Navy for the past 20 years. Bit of a broad base.

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We've got quite a vast range of machines, a lot of pumping,

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a lot of material movements, conveyors.

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So, there's a lot of work to do around ensuring

1:14:431:14:46

-the equipment's reliable. How does that sound?

-It sounds very interesting, actually.

1:14:461:14:51

-Yeah?

-Yeah.

-Do you want to come for a look around?

-Yes, please.

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While Kevin's exploring the mine,

1:14:551:14:57

the rest of the family are checking out Boddington town.

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They know how much is riding on Kevin finding well-paid work.

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You can tell it by his demeanour.

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He is carrying the weight of the world on his shoulders.

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He's got two children, a wife that's not well, we're going to lose our home,

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I wouldn't want to be in his position.

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If I was in his position, I would just be crying on the floor.

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I think he's going to have to earn a really good wage

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to even consider any of those properties.

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Even the first one.

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It seems that all of the money we've saved up with the Navy has

1:15:251:15:28

been eaten up by the rising house prices. Doesn't seem to mean anything.

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Well aware of the pressure riding on his shoulders,

1:15:331:15:37

Kevin is quick to get to the big questions.

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-How did you find that?

-That was pretty eye-opening. That's huge!

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Based on what we've seen with your resume,

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I would suggest that we would be looking for

1:15:461:15:49

a team leader position for yourself.

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Newmont has a strong focus on developing its people,

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which will enable you to go on and complete your degree, if that's the way you want to go.

1:15:551:15:59

Yeah, definitely further my career. Like you say, I know I'm going to have to start again,

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if there's the opportunity to progress, that would interest me. Are there opportunities?

1:16:031:16:09

Right across the board we're continually trying to find

1:16:091:16:12

quality people to work with our plant.

1:16:121:16:15

That sounds very interesting. Yeah. I think I could do that.

1:16:151:16:19

It's all sounding promising,

1:16:191:16:21

but there is still the most crucial question.

1:16:211:16:24

With my family moving out, the lifestyle's the issue,

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what's the remuneration?

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What sort of pay are we looking at to start with?

1:16:291:16:32

Tradespeople would be coming on board

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-at about 90,000 Australian.

-Yeah.

-You'd probably be looking at, with your skills,

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-looking in the early hundreds.

-Right, OK.

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It's a lot better than I was expecting.

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-Yeah, quite a lot.

-That's a starting salary of over £60,000.

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A lot more than Kevin earns in the UK.

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That's all good news if he did get a job like this.

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But it could mean giving up living close to the seaside.

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-So, how will Kevin vote?

-Well, today has been a bit of an eye-opener.

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I'm massively impressed with what I have seen today.

1:17:051:17:08

The salary, the opportunities to progress, I'm going to vote for...

1:17:081:17:15

Australia.

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Well, no surprise there, then.

1:17:201:17:23

The salary was massive, almost double what I'm on at the moment,

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and that's just unbelievable.

1:17:261:17:28

I don't think it's quite sunk in.

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When Tom told me, I was trying to be relaxed,

1:17:311:17:34

but I was doing cartwheels inside. It just makes it more realistic.

1:17:341:17:40

To provide for my family to that level is just amazing.

1:17:401:17:43

Undeniably amazing.

1:17:451:17:47

It's been a great day for Kevin,

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and he's keen to share the news with Charlotte.

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-How was the picnic?

-Very nice, thank you, darling.

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Got the cafe to do it, very posh. How did it go?

1:17:551:17:57

It's looking very positive.

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I just couldn't believe it,

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they started at 90,000 for the tradesmen, up to 190 for engineers.

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-190?

-For the degree-qualified engineers.

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So, you would start off at the lower end, and work up through the company?

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They were saying there's a possibility of overseeing

1:18:131:18:17

the work teams, and there was the possibility,

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for the right candidate, of sponsorship.

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-Oh, well done.

-Cheers, babes.

-Did you really like it?

-It was all right.

-Wow, cool.

1:18:231:18:28

Kevin's news couldn't have gone down much better.

1:18:321:18:35

And although one good day is no guarantee of a future,

1:18:351:18:39

knowing his skills are in demand in Australia

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is a big step towards a move.

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What's needed now is to see how things look in black and white.

1:18:431:18:48

We've prepared a comparison of the Gill's

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day-to-day living costs in Australia.

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How will their figures add up?

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Most foods are more expensive here, without a doubt.

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It's 162 in the UK, difference of 231. So, groceries are double.

1:19:021:19:07

I mean the big thing there is the income. It's massively different.

1:19:091:19:15

-Right, shall we have a look at the mortgage bit now?

-Yeah.

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I've been waiting all week but this bit.

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We're looking at a monthly repayment of 1,750, or about £1,100.

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In England we are going to have a big mortgage and a lower wage. That a similar price that you would

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-pay for a mortgage in the UK, but of course your wages are less.

-I see what you're getting at now.

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So, are they better off in the UK, or Australia?

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In Australia, we've got 27,924.

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-I think we might be better off going to Australia.

-Can't believe that!

1:19:491:19:56

-I don't know, that's shocked me.

-An unbelievable amount.

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To consider, that's after you've paid for things,

1:20:011:20:04

even taking into account they are more expensive over here.

1:20:041:20:08

-Yeah, yeah sure.

-Bizarre.

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That's a phenomenal result,

1:20:111:20:12

with Kevin's Australian starting salary,

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after all of their outgoings they'd still have around £27,000 a year left over.

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There is an excellent opportunity for me to provide for my family,

1:20:211:20:25

and that gives me a good feeling.

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I wouldn't, you know, I be proud to, that would be amazing.

1:20:281:20:33

Think it's sunk in?

1:20:351:20:36

I'm not 100% sure yet,

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but to have spare each year

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of equal to the jobs that I'm looking at taking.

1:20:421:20:47

Of course, yeah.

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In England that the sort of wage I'm looking at taking,

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and that's going to be the spare capacity.

1:20:511:20:53

-Yeah, I'm blown away.

-Are you glad you went through this now?

-I am.

1:20:531:20:59

There's been trepidation throughout,

1:20:591:21:02

but I'm glad we're here at this point.

1:21:021:21:05

Yeah, we have been through the mill.

1:21:051:21:06

Just a specific time in my life where everything was going wrong,

1:21:061:21:11

to end up here is...

1:21:111:21:12

-Sorted. Right.

-Yeah.

1:21:141:21:18

It's a massive relief for Kevin and Charlotte.

1:21:221:21:25

After all of their worries about their future

1:21:251:21:28

when Kevin leaves the Navy, this is great news.

1:21:281:21:30

Based on the financial aspects we have looked at today,

1:21:301:21:33

our decision is...

1:21:331:21:35

(BOTH) Australia!

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The possibility of such a large boost to their income

1:21:441:21:48

is fantastic news for the Gills.

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But moving so far away from home can mean facing another big cost -

1:21:511:21:55

the impact of leaving behind the people that you love.

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We've prepared some messages from family and friends back in the UK.

1:22:011:22:04

As it can be quite emotional,

1:22:041:22:07

Kevin, Charlotte, and Sam have decided to watch it without George.

1:22:071:22:11

Hey, Kevin, hey, guys, I hope you are enjoying yourselves down there.

1:22:121:22:15

-They're a lovely family, without realising it.

-They're very nice.

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-Aren't they?

-As a family, I find them very, very close.

1:22:201:22:25

They've settled here very well, very well.

1:22:251:22:28

I miss his stories. He's got a story for everything that happens.

1:22:301:22:35

He's got a lot of experience in the Navy,

1:22:351:22:37

and he likes sharing his experiences with us.

1:22:371:22:40

He always brightens the day up, he always pops in.

1:22:401:22:43

Sometimes it's the same story!

1:22:431:22:45

He's always nice to listen to.

1:22:451:22:50

I think it's a really good opportunity for them

1:22:511:22:54

to explore life in Australia, and if she's happy living there,

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I'd have to kind of have a think about what I want to do.

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HE SIGHS

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My brother's children, what can I say, really? I love them all.

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I shall miss Charlotte very much.

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I'm going to be a bit sad when she goes.

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If she did decide to leave permanently, I wish them the best.

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-I'd be sad.

-We would be, wouldn't we?

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I'll be so sad, I don't want them to go.

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Just always knowing, I'm a little bit upset, oh, Josh, don't cry.

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I just always haven't the right words to say.

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I just hope you're getting along very well out there.

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Have a great time. Missing you lots.

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I hope everything is going well out there,

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you're not missing me too much,

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and I do miss you loads, and I can't wait to see you

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next week, well hopefully, when you come back.

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And we'll have to have a good chat, whatever happens, it'll work out.

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Just don't worry about it, just enjoy your time out there.

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We'll have to see what happens. Caru chi. Ta-ra.

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-Oh, wow. Are you all right, baby?

-Yeah. Quite good.

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-Was it nice seeing Ivan on there?

-Yeah.

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-I wasn't going to cry.

-You did really well.

-Yeah.

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He did sound very supportive, I thought.

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I thought he sounded positive, actually.

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Just shows that I couldn't leave him in the UK.

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-Did he say I love you at the end of it, did he?

-Yeah, caru chi.

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Seeing me messages from home has shown the Gills

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what they stand to lose by leaving.

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A life in Australia would mean big sacrifices.

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So, is the pain of moving really worth it?

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It's time for the Gills to make their final decision.

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As their week in Australia draws to an end,

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Charlotte, Kevin and Samantha have a chance

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to think over just how much is at stake.

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This could possibly be Charlotte's last chance to get here,

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so we need to make a decision.

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I'm glad George seems so happy here.

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Kevin seems really pleased his work prospects,

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and also with the way of life.

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Samantha seems to love it, but obviously her heart is being torn in two, because she's got

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a boyfriend back in the UK who she wants to be with as well.

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It just seems amazing.

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Like, the weather, the opportunities for employment, everything,

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the lifestyle, it's just really amazing.

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My gut instinct tells me that she's not going to vote for Australia.

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I think Ivan makes Samantha happy, and as any dad will attest,

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someone who makes their daughter happy is worth £1 million.

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It's been an eventful week, and one that has brought home

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the emotional issues that face every parent.

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One of the things that has come to a head during this week over here

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is that our daughter has grown up,

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and potentially, we're going to lose her.

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I am 22, and I am moving on, but I don't really want to leave them behind.

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It isn't like it's just up the road, up north, or something like that.

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It's however many miles away. It's on the other side of the world.

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At the end of the day, it's what's best the majority, not the minority.

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I want them to be happy, really.

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It's down to the final vote.

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Could Charlotte and Kevin move if Samantha doesn't,

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or have they all been tempted by life Down Under?

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Are you ready, guys?

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-Australia!

-Half and half!

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-You didn't say England!

-I said half and half.

-That's really good.

-That's really good.

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-Come here, Son.

-Did you say that, too, baby?

-I'd miss my friends in England.

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I chose half-and-half, because it's really good in Australia,

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but my friends matter more.

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The reason why I voted half-and-half is because,

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although the lifestyle here is amazing,

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it's a lot of work opportunities for you,

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was just because of the people, and that's the only reason

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why I wouldn't move over.

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It's because of the lifestyle, the work opportunities,

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and also because I think it's a great family atmosphere.

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The Gills have come a long way during their week in Australia,

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but emotional ties to the UK mean the decision isn't a clear one.

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With such a tough choice to make, the Gills may need

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just that little bit more time

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before they decide upon a future that's right for them.

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Whatever it may be, we wish them all the very best with it.

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