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Fond memories of holidays abroad can often give rise to

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dreams of what life might be like if we lived in some far-flung

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corner of the world. But are they just fantasies,

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or could the grass really be greener in another country?

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For one UK family,

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the next seven days will answer the biggest question of their lives.

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Sophie Devey has long dreamt of starting a new life down under.

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If we don't get to go and see it,

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it will always be there - it will always be "what if"?

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But it's a dream her husband Steven struggles to share.

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I just said, "No, I'm not moving.

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"Sophe, leave it alone. I'm not moving. I'm not emigrating."

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And after a week experiencing the ups...

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No!

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Never!

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No!

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..and downs of emigrating...

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Sophie's always had that niggle in her mind that it's just...

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for something better.

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I've always said, "You've just got to be happy with what you've got."

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They'll have to choose a future that's right for everyone.

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I might have to just accept that it's not for him, really.

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For Brits seeking to emigrate,

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New Zealand offers the promise of a better home from home.

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With its mild climate, it's big on outdoor living,

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and very big on scenery,

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whilst its ties to the UK give it the familiar feel of home.

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However, for many new arrivals, the dream simply doesn't live up

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to their hopes, and they end up returning to the UK.

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Over the next week, the Devey family will experience

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the reality of everyday life in New Zealand.

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At the end of it,

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they'll face a critical choice -

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whether to stay in the UK, or to make the move for good.

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The Devey family's adventure begins with a 21-hour flight to Auckland.

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However, almost a full day in the air seems to have done nothing to dampen their enthusiasm.

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It was long, but not as bad as I thought it was going to be.

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Because they always say "gruelling" - a "gruelling" 21-hour flight.

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But it wasn't as bad, as gruelling - it was just long.

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And as you land, it looks kind of like England, the trees and things.

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It's quite similar. So I'm sure...

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-It doesn't feel like we're halfway around the world from England.

-No.

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It looks like the family are raring to go,

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but this week is the first time any of them

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have visited New Zealand, and worries aren't far from the surface.

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-We're excited about what we're going to see and everything, but...

-And what we're going to do.

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..apprehensive about what we're going to find out.

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Ahead of them is a vital week...

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far away from the home and lives they know.

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Back in the UK, Sophie, her husband Steven,

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and their children - Eloise, aged six,

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and Ruben, aged five, live in the town of Paddock Wood in Kent.

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They enjoyed their home and lifestyle,

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but for Sophie the idea of emigrating has long been on her mind.

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Originally, my brother moved out to Australia over ten years ago.

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A couple of years after he'd been out there in Melbourne,

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we went out there as a family.

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We went out there for a couple of weeks and had a great time,

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and then we came back, and I had the idea of actually going out there,

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maybe spending a year out there, just working.

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And then I met Steve, got married and had children,

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but I've always had that travel bug and that never left me, really.

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Sophie's dream of life down under is still as strong as ever,

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but for years she's faced a huge challenge -

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persuading Steven to share it.

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She told me about the need to perhaps emigrate

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probably about the time we moved here.

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I can't recall having any conversations before we moved here.

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We moved here 2007 in the January, and I just said,

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"No, I'm not moving." I just kept saying no.

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I said, "Sophe, leave it alone. I'm not moving.

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"I'm not emigrating."

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Faced with their partner's worries, many might have given up hope,

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but Sophie kept on pushing to emigrate.

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And after the recession brought Steven close to redundancy,

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he, too, started to wonder if the time was right for a move down under.

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That was the turning point.

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But I'd never got the same bug that Sophie had.

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I never got the same intensity at any time.

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It was always Sophe with the drive, and I was going along.

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However, even with Steven on board,

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Sophie knew the risks of moving to a country they had never set foot in.

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We'd never really had time to sit back and think, "Hang on a minute, is there...

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"are there career opportunities out here,

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and are the schools right for the kids?"

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and all those sorts of questions, and we thought, "How can we

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"make that leap, without not visiting the country first."

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But just as their hopes began to grow,

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tragic events put the Deveys' plans on hold.

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And the earthquakes happened as well, didn't they, which set us back a bit as well?

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Christchurch was on our sort of list of places we wanted to go to.

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So that happened, and that just... Things going on here,

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the earthquake there, the speed of the visa happening -

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all just shook our resolve a little bit,

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and it didn't take much for mine to drop right back down.

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After another two years of soul-searching,

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Steven is once again ready to give New Zealand a try,

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and it's now or never for the Deveys,

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but while time has passed, leaving their loved ones won't be any easier to face.

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Our families play a big part in our lives.

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Steve's got a really big family, the children have got loads

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of cousins who they love. And for the children,

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losing their close friends, really, and them starting afresh at school.

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So that's a big concern as well.

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I won't miss nothing, really. Except for Isabella, my best friend.

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I mean, we talk about visiting, family coming over to see us,

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and it all sounds good when you talk about it now, but the truth is it's so far

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and so expensive to do. Realistically - our family and friends,

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we wouldn't see them very much again. And that's the reality.

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With so much to lose, the family's future hangs in the balance.

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And both Sophie and Steven know how big a risk they could be taking.

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We're fairly content here as a family, generally.

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Steve enjoys his job, I've got a good job,

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the children have lovely friends, and that's probably one of the things

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that makes you question whether going to New Zealand is the right thing to do.

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I'm quite happy with how things are right now.

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But there's something missing for her, and I don't know how to help her find it.

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If we don't get to go and see it, it will always be there,

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it will always be "what if?" You know, why didn't we just visit,

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have we missed the chance of a lifetime?

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The grass will be cleaner for Sophie to go somewhere else.

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With me, it's never like that. But I think it's a good thing in a way,

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because it makes her ambitious, so it pushes us forwards to do things,

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but at the end of it, you've still got to be practical and decide if

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that's the right thing, and if it's not, then you have to let it go.

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Giving up all they have would be a huge gamble for the Deveys,

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but Sophie's long dreamt that her family would share the life

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she fell in love with down under, and after years of doubts,

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Steven's ready to give New Zealand a try.

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Ahead of them is a decision that could change their lives for ever.

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For their week down under,

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the family are staying in the city of Auckland.

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almost a third of the Kiwi population live here,

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attracted by a quality of life rated as the third best in the world.

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But that popularity doesn't come cheap,

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with property prices being the highest in the country.

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The Deveys' temporary home is a modern apartment located

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right in the heart of the city. As their first taste of Kiwi living,

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hopefully it'll get the week off to a good start.

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It's very sleek, isn't it?

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It's functional, really, isn't it?

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Not sure about the kitchen being in the dining room and lounge. It reminds me of going caravanning.

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-This is the sort of size, the kitchen you get.

-It's very basic, isn't it?

-Yeah.

-Yeah.

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It's not the best beginning,

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but perhaps the city views can make up for the lack of space.

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Let's have a look on the balcony. Be careful.

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It's noisy!

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-Yeah, we're right in the centre, aren't we?

-Yeah.

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It is a good base, but realistically,

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about living somewhere like this - not with the family.

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As first impressions go, Steven and Sophie haven't exactly been

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wowed by Auckland, and their thoughts soon turn to the week ahead.

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I still think there are going to be things that I'm really going

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to love, and there may be bits that I perhaps thought I would,

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but find out that I don't like so much.

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Since getting off the plane,

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I don't think I've changed whether I would come and stay here.

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I'm still around about 30%.

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I haven't changed my mind as yet,

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so we'll see as the week progresses, how that changes.

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You know, I'd like to think that at the end of it, we come to

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a mutual decision,

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but I might have to accept that it's not for him, really.

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In the UK, the Deveys live in this three-bedroom

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family home in Paddock Wood.

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Sophie has a passion for interior design

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and has spent years transforming the house room by room.

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They have a budget of £250,000 to spend on a Kiwi property -

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that's if they can find something that will live up to their hopes.

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In terms of properties,

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we'd like somewhere that's big enough to put people up,

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so that we can have friends and family stay, so sort of

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four-bedroomed house, quite open-plan, and somewhere with a nice, big garden.

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It would be nice live near the coast,

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and it would be nice to live near shops and schools and...

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I'm not one of these people that thinks you've got to have a swimming pool and acres of land.

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Today, we're giving the Deveys a taste of Auckland's property market.

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We'll show them three typical options based on what

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they want from their ideal Kiwi home, to what they can afford.

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After seeing for themselves what's on offer,

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they'll find out how much each house costs.

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The first house is in Orewa,

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a small town on the Hibiscus Coast, 25 miles north of central Auckland.

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It's a popular location for young families, with schools

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and facilities close by - so it should appeal to the Deveys.

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But is this one they could like and afford?

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Oh, this is nice.

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-Wow! This is really open-plan as well.

-Yeah, I was going to say that.

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Look at the view. It's nice.

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See, you've got a dining room and lounge here. You could have people round, couldn't you?

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-Quite nice to have the kitchen separate.

-Separate, yeah. Definitely.

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There's a bit of mix 'n' match on the old units, isn't there?

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It's a cautious start from Steven and Sophie.

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But with four bedrooms and a popular location,

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they should be close to what they're looking for.

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Perhaps the bedrooms can impress.

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OK. A little bedroom.

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So it could be a spare room, it could be an office.

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Yes. Nice little room.

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That doesn't sound too convincing either.

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So can the landscaped garden make a difference?

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There's a little garden-type area there, Sophe,

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-that you can do something with.

-Oh, right.

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-One of our things was a garden, wasn't it?

-Yeah.

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And it has got a garden, but it's just...

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-a lot of garden, but not as much as you can use.

-No.

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This house may look good on paper, but the reality simply isn't

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getting Steven or Sophie excited about living in New Zealand.

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-That's another bathroom to clean.

-Yeah, true.

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There's no wow factor for us, with this one. It's just nice.

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To me, it doesn't seem as family...

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to me, it's almost like going into a bungalow that's for older people.

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-Just a nice...

-Just OK.

-..clean, well-kept property.

-It's liveable, definitely.

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I don't think it would suit us, particularly.

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I mean, if it was on the market for, I don't know, 300,000, it might be.

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After failing to win them over, it looks like the only thing

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this house can tempt the Deveys with is a good price tag.

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But does it come with one?

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Yes, it's half an hour from Auckland, so the commute's good.

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So I think it's going to be above £250,000.

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Turn it over.

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Ah! Oh, my word!

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No! No way!

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£329,000!

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Any other property in this area that would suit us

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is going to be out of our price range, definitely.

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-I think it's a "no" for this one, then.

-Yes.

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At almost £80,000 over budget, that's a big setback

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for Sophie's hopes of convincing Steven to emigrate.

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And finding a home that fits their wallet

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and needs is looking like a real challenge.

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So can the second house offer an improvement?

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It's located in the rural suburb of Stillwater.

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Although closer to the city, it's an up-and-coming area,

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which should help stretch the Deveys' budget.

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Nice and quiet, isn't it? What do you think so far, Sophe?

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Yeah, it's got a good outlook.

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I like it. Yes, it has.

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This four-bedroom property has the room they need,

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but after a tough start, can it lift the mood?

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This is nice.

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Yeah. This is the lounge and diner, and the kitchen.

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It's nicely decorated.

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I think it could probably do with an update on the kitchen.

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That sounds much better.

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And outdoors there's a relaxing sight - in more ways than one.

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Could you see yourself sitting in the hot tub, Sophe?

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-Yeah, I could.

-And a glass of wine?

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Yeah, be lovely. Would you like that hot tub at home? Outside?

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Would you have hot tub parties with your friends?

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We've got a paddling pool at home. A blow-up one. It's not quite the same.

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A hot tub might be a welcome bonus, but can the basics

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in this house do a better job of impressing Steven and Sophie?

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-That's the bedroom.

-That's a nice size, isn't it?

-Yeah. Is that the en suite?

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En suite - nice. Yes?

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It's not a huge room, but it's sufficient, isn't it?

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-Yeah, if you got the wardrobe space in here, then it's OK, isn't it?

-If there's wardrobe space.

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That sounds just about OK.

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But it's not long before Steven spots a problem.

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You could fit a double bed in here if you needed to.

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Yeah. I've just had a look at these windows - I think they're single glazed.

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And you've got that dirty great road there.

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Double glazing would be good, wouldn't it?

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Noise might be an issue for Steven,

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but can the large rear garden make up for it?

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That greenery is lovely.

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I mean, apart from the cars going by, it's really quiet,

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and you can just hear the birds and that.

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Yeah, I really like it. It's quite quirky and different, isn't it?

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I'm glad we've seen it in the sunshine.

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It's got the views, it's got space.

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It's got quite a lot of potential.

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It has, definitely.

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It just looks a little bit, I don't know,

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a little bit unfinished, you know, it's not done by a craftsman.

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No. Yeah, like you say, it's a bit rustic

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and it's a bit... It needs a bit of work.

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This house might not be perfect,

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but it's definitely captured Steven and Sophie's imagination.

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However, will its price shatter the illusion?

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OK, back into the main living room.

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-OK, shall we have a look?

-I can't look!

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254,000.

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-254,000.

-That's roughly what we'd expect for ours.

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So...? Yes?

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That's what we'd be thinking, yes, so it would be...

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It's not unreasonable.

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The only improvement you could make on this is if you found

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a similar property, with a similar outlook and area

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-but it was just a higher spec finish.

-And didn't have to do the work.

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Despite being a little rough around the edges,

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this house was almost bang-on their £250,000 budget,

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and with Steven sounding cautiously optimistic,

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it's a much better result for Sophie.

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However, finding that elusive wow factor could well be key.

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And with just one stop left, the pressure is on for the last

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house to deliver it - without breaking the bank.

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It's in the coastal resort of Gulf Harbour.

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It's a popular area, but at 45 minutes outside the city,

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it should still offer value for money.

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It can't be. It can't be all of it.

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-Wow! That's a really good size.

-That must be next door!

-Look at that.

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There's a tennis court there and a children's play area.

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Did you see all the shops as we drove in, and all the stores?

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Yeah, looks like a really good... Loads of amenities.

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The house comes with shared tennis courts and swimming pool,

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which would be ideal for the children.

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First impressions - really nice with the area and the house.

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Very nice.

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And the double garage.

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While mum and dad look round the ground floor,

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Eloise and Ruben carry out a thorough survey upstairs.

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Bathroom - very big.

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I like this bed.

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The children seem taken with their rooms,

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but how have mum and dad been getting on?

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It's nice. Nice outlook from your kitchen.

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Yeah, I do like this kitchen/diner.

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There's much more worktop than we've got at home, the amount of preparation you've got...

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Because you've got this space here, and these two smaller spaces.

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-Through to the lounge.

-That's a good-sized lounge, isn't?

0:18:340:18:37

Oh, yeah - that's nice, isn't it? I like this.

0:18:370:18:40

-We've got a good-sized lounge, at home.

-Plenty of seating.

-That's what we want.

0:18:400:18:44

That's another positive response from Steven.

0:18:440:18:46

So is he coming around to New Zealand houses?

0:18:460:18:50

Master bedroom. Oh yes. Big, isn't it?

0:18:500:18:52

Ah, this is great.

0:18:520:18:53

Look at all the seating in here. You could have an office down there.

0:18:540:18:58

-You could either have an office...

-Or you could have a walk-in wardrobe there, couldn't you?

0:18:580:19:02

-I wonder if we've got any...

-Might be in there, though.

0:19:020:19:05

-Ah, there you go.

-Oh, no! I'm going to have to move in now. That's it.

0:19:050:19:08

I think this property is really exciting.

0:19:110:19:14

We haven't really seen anything yet that we'd have to do a lot to.

0:19:140:19:17

It's just cosmetic, isn't it?

0:19:170:19:19

I think that's Sophie well and truly won over.

0:19:200:19:24

But there's still the garden to see.

0:19:240:19:25

-A bit of outdoor area.

-Yes.

0:19:270:19:30

It's not a lot of room for, you know, a table and chairs.

0:19:300:19:35

It would just be there, really, would it?

0:19:350:19:37

Nice house. Could do with a bigger garden, but... I don't think it's...

0:19:370:19:41

You've got so many things going on, and you've got the front, so...

0:19:410:19:45

Both Sophie and Steven have been impressed by the final house.

0:19:450:19:48

Even a small garden hasn't put them off.

0:19:480:19:51

But with so much riding on this week, the big question is...

0:19:510:19:55

OK, let's have a look, then.

0:19:550:19:56

..can they afford it?

0:19:560:19:57

No!

0:19:590:20:01

Never!

0:20:010:20:02

No!

0:20:020:20:03

That's quite amazing!

0:20:030:20:05

It can't be typical, there must be... They must want a quick sale.

0:20:050:20:09

-I'm amazed.

-Hmm.

0:20:090:20:11

I'm amazed.

0:20:110:20:13

At £30,000 under budget, that's quite a price tag,

0:20:130:20:17

and it could be vital in winning Steven over to Kiwi property.

0:20:170:20:21

I guess, the closer you get to Auckland, the more expensive it is,

0:20:210:20:24

-so it may be just that bit further out that it drops in price.

-Yeah.

-Yeah.

0:20:240:20:30

It's been a day of highs and lows.

0:20:300:20:33

Despite having a great location

0:20:330:20:35

and plenty of space, the first house left the Deveys cold.

0:20:350:20:39

And at £80,000 over budget, its price froze them in their tracks.

0:20:390:20:44

Thankfully, some amazing views,

0:20:450:20:47

and a hot tub helped warm things up in property two.

0:20:470:20:51

And it was affordable, despite needing some TLC.

0:20:510:20:54

But the final house impressed everyone,

0:20:560:20:58

and, costing far less than they thought,

0:20:580:21:01

it showed a real upside to property down under.

0:21:010:21:04

So, have the Deveys seen enough to convince them

0:21:060:21:08

that Auckland property could be for them?

0:21:080:21:11

It's time to vote.

0:21:110:21:13

Based on the properties we have seen today, our vote goes to...

0:21:130:21:17

New Zealand!

0:21:230:21:24

-CHILDREN:

-New Zealand!

-New Zealand.

0:21:240:21:26

You've chosen New Zealand?

0:21:260:21:28

Certainly. I felt the house was spot-on, in a lovely area.

0:21:280:21:33

Based on the properties we've seen, and the spaciousness of them

0:21:330:21:37

and the size of the rooms,

0:21:370:21:39

and the outlook, the views, definitely.

0:21:390:21:43

Why didn't you like the houses we've seen today?

0:21:430:21:46

You didn't think there was much of a garden?

0:21:510:21:53

Why's he saying that? He didn't like the first one!

0:21:530:21:55

The first one was nice, wasn't it?

0:21:550:21:57

Ruben might be a tough customer but, after years of dreaming,

0:21:570:22:01

that's a great start for Sophie.

0:22:010:22:04

I kind of thought, that I was more likely to be negative,

0:22:040:22:06

in a way, when I came out here, because I've kind of seen it through rose-tinted

0:22:060:22:10

glasses before - just things I had read, and spoken to people,

0:22:100:22:13

but now I have experienced it for myself, it's better than I envisaged.

0:22:130:22:19

I think anyone who has seen what we have seen so far,

0:22:190:22:22

putting aside family and work commitments at home, if you

0:22:220:22:25

put all that to one side, I think you'd be crazy not to want to live here.

0:22:250:22:30

After years of dreaming,

0:22:420:22:44

the Deveys' first taste of real life down under ended on a high note.

0:22:440:22:48

And Steven's positive tune is music to Sophie's ears.

0:22:480:22:52

But are his job prospects in Auckland worth giving up

0:22:520:22:55

a career he loves?

0:22:550:22:56

Back in the UK, Steven works as a health and safety

0:22:570:23:00

adviser for a construction company, earning around £40,000 a year.

0:23:000:23:05

It's his sought-after qualifications that hold the key to

0:23:050:23:08

moving down under, but he knows that giving up a job he loves

0:23:080:23:12

and which provides security for his family won't be an easy decision.

0:23:120:23:17

Before moving to New Zealand, I think

0:23:170:23:19

we'd look at the financial differences, definitely,

0:23:190:23:23

because, although we don't mind having to take a step

0:23:230:23:28

back on the wage structure,

0:23:280:23:30

I'd certainly like to make sure that I had something to go to...

0:23:300:23:34

Yeah, definitely, that there was a job waiting for me there.

0:23:340:23:37

Meanwhile, Sophie is hoping that a move to New Zealand could

0:23:370:23:40

offer her a chance to follow up on another long-held dream.

0:23:400:23:44

At the moment, she works part-time as an administrator

0:23:440:23:48

in a local school, but her real passion lies elsewhere.

0:23:480:23:52

Interior design has always been a big thing for me, and it was

0:23:520:23:55

when I was at art college, although I didn't study it, it wasn't an option

0:23:550:23:58

at that time, but it has always been there, and it is part of me.

0:23:580:24:02

I'm quite a creative person, but because of having the children

0:24:020:24:08

and working, as well, it is not something I have been able to really pick up.

0:24:080:24:12

It would be nice to get to New Zealand, looking into something

0:24:120:24:15

I really wanted to do.

0:24:150:24:17

To see what opportunities Steven could have in Auckland,

0:24:190:24:22

he's meeting Sam Roth, who works for a large construction firm.

0:24:220:24:26

With the move resting squarely on his shoulders,

0:24:260:24:29

it's vital that he finds out if his skills are in demand.

0:24:290:24:33

Our health and safety story is "zero harm".

0:24:330:24:35

It's an impossible task, there is no such thing as zero harm,

0:24:350:24:39

but I think it's the attitude in and around it.

0:24:390:24:42

I think it is part and parcel of the project manager role,

0:24:420:24:45

and that's probably where I see you, in our company, anyway.

0:24:450:24:49

That's not an ideal start,

0:24:490:24:51

as project managing would mean a change in roles from the one

0:24:510:24:54

Steven currently has in the UK.

0:24:540:24:57

So, is Sophie having more luck, finding out

0:24:570:25:00

whether retraining as a designer could be a realistic option?

0:25:000:25:03

She's visiting a local school of interior design,

0:25:030:25:06

to meet Elaine Ingle, who manages their adult education courses.

0:25:060:25:11

I've got two small children at home, at primary school age,

0:25:110:25:14

could I do this course part-time?

0:25:140:25:17

The course is over three years, this is a part-time course,

0:25:170:25:21

and it requires two-and-a-half hours of classroom time,

0:25:210:25:25

and you can do a class either in the morning or in the evening.

0:25:250:25:29

That's really good, yeah.

0:25:290:25:30

And what would the job prospects be for someone like me?

0:25:300:25:33

With further training,

0:25:330:25:34

you could become a professional interior designer,

0:25:340:25:37

or you could work as an assistant to an interior design firm.

0:25:370:25:43

Fitting her studies around part-time work

0:25:430:25:45

and looking after the children would be a big plus for Sophie,

0:25:450:25:48

but there is no guarantee of a job at the end of the course.

0:25:480:25:52

College fees would put more pressure on the family finances,

0:25:520:25:56

so everything could well ride on Steven's earning

0:25:560:25:58

potential in New Zealand.

0:25:580:26:00

What is the level of salary that I could expect to receive

0:26:000:26:04

working in New Zealand for Cook Brothers?

0:26:040:26:06

I think, for a project manager, depending on where you were

0:26:060:26:09

living, anywhere between 80 and about NZ 150,000.

0:26:090:26:14

Are you doing a lot of recruiting at the moment, Sam?

0:26:140:26:16

We are recruiting for project managers,

0:26:160:26:19

and quantity surveyors, also, in Queenstown, and in Dunedin and in Auckland.

0:26:190:26:22

So a person with your skills is of definite interest to our company.

0:26:220:26:27

That's quite a result.

0:26:270:26:28

It looks like Steven could double his UK salary

0:26:280:26:31

if he was prepared to change roles down under.

0:26:310:26:34

So, is that potential enough to convince him

0:26:350:26:37

to leave a career he knows and loves back home?

0:26:370:26:40

Based on the work activities in New Zealand, my vote goes to...

0:26:420:26:48

..New Zealand.

0:26:520:26:53

I do love my job at home, but I have to weigh up everything and

0:26:550:26:59

consider my work/life balance, and is this somewhere I'd prefer to be.

0:26:590:27:04

That vote is great news for Sophie, and after

0:27:040:27:07

their day of fact-finding, she meets up with Steven to compare notes.

0:27:070:27:12

So, how does that make you feel now,

0:27:120:27:14

does it all seem more promising after finding out what you found out?

0:27:140:27:18

Yes, it's definitely more promising,

0:27:180:27:21

I think it helps me crank it up a notch again.

0:27:210:27:24

So, after two days and two votes, things are looking

0:27:240:27:27

good for Sophie's dream, but can the good news continue?

0:27:270:27:31

There's still a long way to go before they face their final decision.

0:27:310:27:35

That's more optimism from Steven, who seems to be well

0:27:400:27:44

and truly buying into life down under, but it's the chance

0:27:440:27:47

to enjoy New Zealand together as a family that excites Sophie the most

0:27:470:27:51

about emigrating. So, will the Kiwi lifestyle live up to all her hopes?

0:27:510:27:56

The Deveys would love to spend more time outdoors as a family,

0:27:570:28:01

and living in a warmer climate would be a real plus.

0:28:010:28:04

Today, they are visiting the Kiwi Valley Farm Park,

0:28:040:28:07

and for two animal-loving children it's a real treat.

0:28:070:28:11

Look a chicken just came in! A chicken!

0:28:110:28:13

Look, it's a chicken. A chicken!

0:28:130:28:16

It's more about them today, and not so much... You know,

0:28:160:28:19

the property and jobs has been about us,

0:28:190:28:22

but now I think they finally feel, "This is great,"

0:28:220:28:25

you can really see what suits them and what they like to do.

0:28:250:28:29

Both Ellie and Ruben prefer to be outdoors.

0:28:290:28:32

When we are at home, the weather is not right.

0:28:320:28:35

Here, there are lots of parks, there are lots of families

0:28:350:28:37

in the parks, so it's very family-orientated, which is great,

0:28:370:28:41

you know, and at weekends, spending more time together.

0:28:410:28:44

That's what it's all about.

0:28:440:28:46

Do you do horse-riding here?

0:28:480:28:50

-Oh, yes.

-OK.

0:28:500:28:52

Can we go horse-riding?

0:28:520:28:53

Someone wants to do that.

0:28:530:28:55

Seeing the children happy is a reminder of what first

0:28:550:28:59

inspired Sophie's dream, and what it could mean for her family's future.

0:28:590:29:03

I think we could definitely feel more content here.

0:29:030:29:06

Since having the children, I have wanted them

0:29:060:29:08

to enjoy more of an outdoor life,

0:29:080:29:09

and, definitely, here, that seems to be the case with kids.

0:29:090:29:14

So that would make me happy, to see them happy

0:29:140:29:19

and for Steve to be in a good job.

0:29:190:29:21

And just the environment generally,

0:29:220:29:24

and for the beaches and parks and things.

0:29:240:29:27

I think, generally, you just feel more content here,

0:29:270:29:30

and the weather just picks you up.

0:29:300:29:32

Sophie has always had that niggle in her mind that there is

0:29:320:29:36

something better, and I have always said that you've just got to

0:29:360:29:39

be happy with what you've got, but she's always pushed that

0:29:390:29:41

little bit, and pushed us to be a little bit more ambitious.

0:29:410:29:45

When we came out here, I was a little bit apprehensive about what

0:29:450:29:48

I would find...

0:29:480:29:51

but it's just been a real eye-opener.

0:29:510:29:55

Auckland has surpassed my expectations, I think, quite a lot.

0:29:550:30:00

After years of doubt, Steven seems to be moving ever closer to

0:30:000:30:05

sharing Sophie's dream of a new life down under.

0:30:050:30:09

And after an ideal day out,

0:30:090:30:10

I think I can guess which way this vote will go.

0:30:100:30:14

Based on the lifestyle activities we've seen today,

0:30:140:30:17

our vote goes to...

0:30:170:30:19

-ALL:

-..New Zealand.

0:30:250:30:28

What made you plump for New Zealand?

0:30:290:30:31

It's just that lifestyle they've got over here is much preferable.

0:30:310:30:36

It's more outdoors and it just feels quite good.

0:30:360:30:41

I think it's the same, really.

0:30:410:30:43

It's the outdoor activities that they have got to choose from,

0:30:430:30:45

and places like this, where they can come and see the animals,

0:30:450:30:49

and the weather meant they were able to come and do it.

0:30:490:30:52

Just generally, I think, they love the outdoor life,

0:30:520:30:55

and I think we would as well.

0:30:550:30:57

New Zealand's great outdoors were just as good as the Deveys

0:31:060:31:09

were hoping for, and, even better news,

0:31:090:31:11

Sophie's dream seems to have rubbed off on Steven.

0:31:110:31:14

But could all this promise be hiding some painful realities?

0:31:140:31:18

In particular, is this a dream they can afford?

0:31:180:31:21

Funding a move could well hinge on what the Deveys can

0:31:220:31:25

raise from the sale of their UK home.

0:31:250:31:28

They believe it's worth £250,000,

0:31:280:31:31

but will two local estate agents agree?

0:31:310:31:34

Nice French door to a conservatory.

0:31:340:31:36

He's going upstairs!

0:31:360:31:38

This must be your master bedroom.

0:31:380:31:41

'Large fitted wardrobe.'

0:31:410:31:42

WHISPERS: He'll be looking for an en suite.

0:31:420:31:44

Really well looked after.

0:31:440:31:46

Woo!

0:31:460:31:47

This is a nice room.

0:31:490:31:51

What about mine?

0:31:520:31:54

OK, this room's another great size.

0:31:560:31:58

Third bedroom,

0:31:580:31:59

'which estate agents call a little room,'

0:31:590:32:02

but this one is not, again.

0:32:020:32:04

Would definitely take a double bed. Good.

0:32:040:32:07

'What we would do is value the property and put it on the market'

0:32:070:32:10

for £275,000.

0:32:100:32:12

Oh, my.

0:32:120:32:13

-'For quick sale, obviously...'

-What is he doing?

0:32:130:32:16

'..we've the issue of the stamp duty'

0:32:160:32:17

at 250 and I think that's probably the figures we'd be looking at,

0:32:170:32:22

around 250.

0:32:220:32:23

-ESTATE AGENT:

-'If the property was

0:32:230:32:25

'to come onto the market today, I'd recommend'

0:32:250:32:27

a marketing price of 250,000

0:32:270:32:30

and if they were looking to achieve

0:32:300:32:32

'a quick sale, then possibly putting it on at a range,'

0:32:320:32:35

235 to 255, to get more people through the door.

0:32:350:32:39

That's what we paid for it, isn't it?

0:32:390:32:41

-But, you know, the market's since...

-It's gone back...

0:32:410:32:44

It stabilised and dropped, didn't it?

0:32:440:32:46

So that's probably about right, really.

0:32:460:32:48

There's quite a big difference in figures,

0:32:480:32:50

isn't it, between the two estate agents?

0:32:500:32:53

Yeah, but I think you can be

0:32:530:32:54

confident enough, now, that it's at 250.

0:32:540:32:57

Yeah, it's the benchmark, really.

0:32:570:32:59

But it's just good to think that we could sell it, if we wanted to,

0:32:590:33:02

and not make any great loss.

0:33:020:33:04

-Or we could rent it out.

-Yep.

0:33:040:33:07

Those valuations are reassuring news,

0:33:070:33:11

but is the lifestyle that so impressed Steven and Sophie

0:33:110:33:15

going to make financial sense?

0:33:150:33:16

We've prepared a comparison of their expenses,

0:33:160:33:19

so they can work out the real cost of living in New Zealand.

0:33:190:33:24

So, so far, an avocado is cheaper

0:33:240:33:27

and beans.

0:33:270:33:29

Potatoes are nearly double.

0:33:290:33:31

Eggs, crisps and avocados

0:33:310:33:33

-is what we'll be living on.

-Be our staple diet.

0:33:330:33:36

The weekly shop looks to be more expensive than it is in the UK.

0:33:360:33:40

£27.56.

0:33:400:33:43

So it's an increase of, what? 24%?

0:33:440:33:47

But Steven could earn up to double his UK salary in New Zealand

0:33:470:33:51

and Sophie also has plans to work part-time.

0:33:510:33:54

And with their dream house in Gulf Harbour costing less than

0:33:540:33:58

their UK property, their mortgage payments would be lower.

0:33:580:34:01

-So, that's £80 less, isn't it?

-It is.

0:34:010:34:03

So, overall, have Steven and Sophie

0:34:030:34:06

worked out a way to afford the dream?

0:34:060:34:08

£967.

0:34:080:34:10

Then we're better off in New Zealand

0:34:100:34:13

by about £100, which is good.

0:34:130:34:16

-Very promising...

-It is, isn't it?

0:34:170:34:19

..and quite surprising.

0:34:190:34:21

The numbers look very encouraging for the Deveys,

0:34:210:34:24

but are good prospects enough to convince them

0:34:240:34:27

to leave the stability and security they already have at home?

0:34:270:34:30

Based on the comparisons on the cost of living between

0:34:310:34:35

the UK and New Zealand, our vote goes to...

0:34:350:34:37

BOTH: ..New Zealand!

0:34:440:34:46

And you chose New Zealand because?

0:34:460:34:49

Because the comparisons with the cost of living,

0:34:490:34:53

I was pleasantly surprised that that they were in the...

0:34:530:34:57

We'd be better off in New Zealand,

0:34:570:34:59

which I never expected, at all.

0:34:590:35:01

I think if it worked out that we would be worse off here

0:35:010:35:04

and there were other aspects of the lifestyle, et cetera,

0:35:040:35:08

that weren't so good, it would be an obvious decision, wouldn't it?

0:35:080:35:11

But it turns out that we'd actually be as well off, if not better.

0:35:110:35:17

That's yet another win for New Zealand.

0:35:170:35:21

But, after coming so close to being won over,

0:35:210:35:24

it seems there's still something holding Steven back.

0:35:240:35:27

I think that Sophie's still thinking very much with her heart

0:35:280:35:32

and I think this has just reinforced it for her, this whole trip.

0:35:320:35:35

I'm still using...

0:35:350:35:36

..my head, rather than my heart.

0:35:390:35:40

I was a little bit apprehensive when we came over.

0:35:400:35:44

There's still a little bit to do.

0:35:440:35:46

What's still holding me back a little is the fact that we're

0:35:460:35:49

going to be halfway round the world.

0:35:490:35:52

So there's the family connection,

0:35:520:35:55

friends, that I'm thinking about,

0:35:550:35:58

but I think that's one bridge and one hurdle

0:35:580:36:01

I'm going to have to overcome.

0:36:010:36:02

I still will take a logical thought process

0:36:020:36:06

before I make a final decision.

0:36:060:36:08

With the figures looking good,

0:36:200:36:22

it could have been the final piece in the jigsaw for the Deveys,

0:36:220:36:25

but Steven's worries about leaving loved ones have

0:36:250:36:28

brought his doubts back.

0:36:280:36:29

So, could seeing messages from them put all their plans on hold?

0:36:290:36:33

Having encountered so many positives,

0:36:330:36:36

there's one final obstacle facing the family -

0:36:360:36:39

the pain of leaving loved ones behind.

0:36:390:36:42

So, shall we let the kids watch this?

0:36:420:36:44

Do you think they're all right to see it?

0:36:440:36:46

Yeah, I think so.

0:36:460:36:48

-Do you want to see it, kids?

-RUBEN: Yeah.

0:36:480:36:50

I'm going to see it a little bit,

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but if I don't like it, I'm going...

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-..to play.

-OK.

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-'Hi!'

-'Hi, hope you're having a good time!'

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-Hi!

-Hi!

-Hi!

-How are you doing?

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'So, hello, Steven.'

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-Hi, Steve, Sophie.

-Sophie, Ellie, Ruben.

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We hope you're having a lovely time.

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'Sophie, she's a great, fantastic mum.'

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She's brilliant to Ellie and Ruben.

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'But, most of all, she's just a really, really good friend of mine.'

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Energetic, is our Steven.

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'He does everything full pelt.'

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-Eloise is crazy.

-Crazy.

-Bonkers.

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-'Bonkers.'

-Bonkers!

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'Ruben, you think he's ever so quiet and he is -

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'he is quiet - but when you do

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'one-to-one with him, talking to him,'

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he'll just come out with the funniest things.

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Sophie's always wanted to go and explore other places

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'and she's always had this bit of a dream to, you know,

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'go and live somewhere else.'

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'I think Sophie mentioned about'

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moving away at least last summer.

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-A bit of a shock to us, really.

-A big shock.

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Cos he's quite family-orientated.

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'We was having breakfast, Christmas,'

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and Steven said, "We're thinking about..."

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-"Going."

-"..emigrating to New Zealand."

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-'I was really taken aback.

-Everything stopped.'

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We didn't let him know.

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We didn't say anything. So I said,

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'"I'll put the kettle on. Anybody want another drink?"

0:38:180:38:21

'Just while I could collect myself back together again.'

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Sophie's watched her brother go through that

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and seen how it's all worked out for him,

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'so that must be somewhere

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'in the back of their minds, an easier...'

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-ELOISE: Who's that man? SOPHIE: Grandpa.

-'..transition.'

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'I think it'll be a fantastic'

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opportunity for them, but obviously we'll really miss

0:38:380:38:41

Sophie and our chats together

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and I know Isabella will really miss

0:38:430:38:46

'Eloise and Ruben a lot.'

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'You know, if the opportunities are there, yeah,

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'we wouldn't stand in his way.'

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We'd be disappointed that we couldn't see them as often...

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Bank holidays and Christmas and that, that would be sad.

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'We'd have to buy an aeroplane, wouldn't we?'

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'It would be very sad. I'd hate to think of them'

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-'that far away, cos we wouldn't see them a lot.

-No.

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'I'd hate to think that we wouldn't see them again.'

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'Make sure you are aware of the situation and,'

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if it's in the right place, the right location, the right...

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'I'm sure you'll make the right decision.'

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It's a big, big step you're taking

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and I can't pretend that we won't miss you,

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'but, on the other hand,

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'we hope that you follow your dream'

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and it would turn out right for you.

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Yeah, it was exactly what I thought they'd say.

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I thought they'd be positive and say,

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"We'll save up and come and see you."

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Yeah, it's good to know that they

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didn't outright say, "Well, we just couldn't come out."

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I think if we saw this and we were over here for real,

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-we'd be thinking, "Oh, blimey, I do miss everybody."

-That would... Yeah.

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I wasn't sure how your mum and dad would be,

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because I know your mum's spoken to me before and said

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she was worried about they might not be able to come out here.

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They would miss us, but they also said, you know,

0:40:030:40:06

"You've got to do what's right for you and the family."

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And that's my biggest worry, that we wouldn't see anyone again,

0:40:080:40:11

cos we'd be living our life, they'd be living their lives

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and there's no reason for them to come unless it's a holiday.

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So...

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Seeing their friends and family brought the reality of emigrating

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into sharp focus for everyone and all the benefits they've seen

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this week will be for nothing

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if they can't face the pain of leaving home.

0:40:340:40:36

After years of dreaming, "What if?"

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it's time for the Deveys to choose their future.

0:40:380:40:42

It's been a huge week for the family, and for Sophie,

0:40:420:40:46

a chance to see if her hopes could be made real.

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For years, Steven has worried about moving, fearing he may

0:40:510:40:55

never see his loved ones again,

0:40:550:40:57

but having seen the positive side of life down under,

0:40:570:41:00

he now faces the biggest decision of his life.

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-STEVEN:

-I think when Sophie came here,

0:41:040:41:06

she was looking a few little things

0:41:060:41:07

just to confirm what she thought and she found them straightaway.

0:41:070:41:11

For me, each day has been just ticking off a big list of things,

0:41:110:41:15

each day, and just done that.

0:41:150:41:18

There's no negatives about coming out here,

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apart from the fact that we'd miss our family and friends,

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which I suppose everybody has to contend with.

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-STEVEN:

-My life back home's good. I enjoy it.

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There's not a lot of change about it,

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but it was worth taking this opportunity

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to come and see something different.

0:41:360:41:38

And I was quite surprised that, you know, things look

0:41:380:41:43

and appear even better than the situation that I have back home.

0:41:430:41:47

I don't think Steve will have taken the decision lightly.

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I think he's weighed up everything he's seen and heard

0:41:510:41:53

and he's really put everything into it.

0:41:530:41:56

So, after years of wondering, have the Deveys seen enough

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to convince everyone to emigrate?

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Based on our week spent here in New Zealand,

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our vote goes to...

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-New Zealand!

-New Zealand!

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-England.

-Oh!

-England?

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Do you prefer it at home? Do you?

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I went for New Zealand because everything seems right for us here.

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Everything's turned out to be a positive.

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Everything we've looked at has seemed really promising.

0:42:320:42:36

Being here just feels really good and the work situation,

0:42:360:42:40

the leisure, the lifestyle is really good.

0:42:400:42:44

I've just enjoyed my time here.

0:42:440:42:47

I've tried to keep an open mind about it and I'm glad I did,

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because it allowed me to see it for what it really is.

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-Look at the statue.

-Look at that, it's nice. Come on.

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After a week to remember, Steven's been won over by New Zealand

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and even though Ruben may take a little more convincing

0:43:040:43:08

from Mum and Dad, for Sophie, it's time to put her dream to rest

0:43:080:43:11

and start looking forward to the real thing.

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