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Could you convince your partner to put aside their doubts

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and risk everything for a new start abroad,

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especially if it meant giving up a life you love

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for a country you've never been to before?

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If you dreamt of a new life for your family, but no-one shared your passion...

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It is you that wants to go. It's not me.

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..and the reality left you more than disappointed...

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I expected maybe too much from Australia.

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..could you bear to leave behind everyone you know and love?

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-I think family belong to each other.

-I don't want them to go.

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Being blessed with a warm climate, endless beaches and wide open countryside,

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Australia is a magnet for Brits looking for a more relaxed lifestyle,

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but for many, the new life they sought doesn't live up to their expectations

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and they return home, giving up their dreams.

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Over the next week,

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the Haroon family will get a taste of life in Australia.

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At the end of it, they'll face one of the biggest decisions of their lives -

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whether to stay in the UK or make the move down under for good.

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The journey to Australia is a massive 25-hour flight

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that takes them right to the other side of the world.

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Neither Harry or Nabeela have ever visited the Antipodes,

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but fortunately, there's something familiar about Melbourne.

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It feels like home because of the rain. In Manchester, it's always raining. It just feels like home.

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I think that plane ride was the most exhausting flight I've ever been on,

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mainly because Eliza was a nightmare.

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I can't imagine myself doing that flight too often.

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Now Harry has just one week to convince his family Australia is a dream worth pursuing.

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Back in the UK, the Haroons live in Rochdale near Manchester.

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Along with Harry and Nabeela are five-year-old Amani and Eliza who's nearly two.

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Harry works as a police officer and loves his job.

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However, achieving success in his career has come at a high cost.

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We've been married eight years

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and most of them eight years I've spent working, constantly working,

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missing out seeing my daughter growing up.

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I've also missed out spending time with Nabeela and building a bond together.

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Desperate for a change, Harry is convinced the life he wants can only be found in Australia.

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I want my two daughters...

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..to see and experience things that I never have.

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And hopefully, me aspiring to go to Australia and having quality time with my kids

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will also give me more quality time with Nabeela

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and we can hopefully be there happily married for, you know, for ever.

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However, Nabeela doesn't share Harry's aspirations.

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It was about four years ago when he did mention going to Australia

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and I thought it was just an absurd idea.

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But I don't agree with him.

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We've got everything here.

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As both the Haroons have a large and close-knit family,

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moving to Australia would come at a high price.

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It's massively important for me to have my mum around.

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It's good for the kids, but it's good for my mum as well.

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And, you know, we're very, very close.

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My mum's always saying, "When are you coming round?" Every day she asks the kids, "When are you coming round?"

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I didn't have a father figure. My mum brought me up.

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Me and my mum are very close.

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My mum has made so many sacrifices for me and my sister.

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And I just hope she understands the sacrifices that I'm making.

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And Harry knows he still has a long way to go to convince Nabeela to make the move.

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I want to go.

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But I need your support.

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I don't want this all to be about, "Oh, it's me. Harry's doing everything. He's the one..."

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-I want...

-But it is you. It is you that wants to go, remember.

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It's not... It's not me. I'm happy to stay here in the UK.

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I think we've got everything that we need here.

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So, yeah, it is you that wants to... that wants to go.

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Harry has just seven days to show Nabeela

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that Australia is worth giving up the life she knows and loves.

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The Haroons are torn over where their future lies.

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Harry is convinced they could have a better life in Australia,

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but Nabeela can't bear the thought of leaving her family behind.

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With so much at stake, it's a dilemma that could leave someone broken-hearted.

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The Haroons want to see if Melbourne can provide everything they need.

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As a vibrant and multi-cultural city, it's well-suited for a young family looking to start a new life.

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The Haroons' home for the week is in the Airport West suburb.

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Close to the centre of Melbourne, it should be an ideal base,

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so what will they make of their first taste of Australian living?

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-It's a bit strange having a bedroom...

-As soon as you walk in.

-Yeah.

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-I'm not...

-Yeah.

-I'm not used to that.

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Australian housing might not be quite what he expected,

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but Harry is quick to adapt.

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I like this. I just don't understand. Is this the kitchen and the living room?

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Or is this the kitchen and the dining area and they've converted it into a living room?

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This is the living room.

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-So it's open-plan.

-Yeah, all open.

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So I can be sat here watching the footie and you can be making the food.

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Yeah, we'll see.

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I can say to you, "Nabeela, come on, chicken kebabs!"

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Harry might be able to tease Nabeela now, but he knows how serious the next seven days will be.

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I think the realisation is hitting home that I'm here,

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something that I've always thought about,

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and now I'm sat here with a brew in my hand and I'm in Australia.

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I think Nabeela, if everything is not there...

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Nabeela will say, more than likely, she's not ready for the move.

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It's got to be something special that we don't already have back home in the UK.

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And for me, that is the bottom line.

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It's got to work for the family.

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Not just for Harry, but for all of us.

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In the UK, the Haroons own a four-bedroom house in Rochdale.

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They've poured their heart and soul into making it a home they love

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and an Australian house would have to be able to deliver just as much, if not more.

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We're looking for a modern house, quite similar to this, spacious.

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-At least four bedrooms.

-Yeah.

-We need to be able to accommodate the family when they come over.

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A big drive for me is the achievement that I've made in the property that I own.

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And maybe that's what I want as well in Australia,

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something that I can say that I have achieved.

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Today, we're giving the Haroons a taste of Melbourne's property market.

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We'll show them three typical options,

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based upon what they want from an ideal Aussie home to what they can afford.

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After seeing for themselves what's on offer, they'll discover the price of each house.

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So with a child-minder on hand to help look after the girls,

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the Haroons are off to explore Melbourne properties.

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The first stop is in the Meadow Heights area.

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Being well situated for an easy commute to the city centre and with a large Muslim community,

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it should appeal to the Haroons.

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Well, this is nice.

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It's like a living room-dining area like ours.

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-Yeah, it's like our one.

-What do you think? Do you like it?

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Yeah.

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-That's just the response Dad wanted and he's keen to see the rest of the house.

-I'll go into the kitchen.

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Is this supposed to be the kitchen?

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-I don't know.

-This can't just be it.

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It just doesn't feel big enough for a kitchen.

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Oh, dear. Suddenly, this house is not looking so attractive.

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-OK, small again. The kitchen's small, the bathroom's small.

-I'm not going to get upset.

-OK.

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-Is this the master?

-Look, it leads on to the front.

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I wouldn't be comfortable, me and you sleeping here,

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knowing that it leads up to the front of the house.

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It's not going well for Aussie housing and the garden only makes matters worse.

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-What's in front of you? The main road.

-The main road.

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-It's about... I want the quiet life.

-Yeah.

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It's not what I expected from a house in Australia.

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I don't know. I'm just getting a bit...

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I don't know. It's just...

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I don't know, I don't know.

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Having had Australia as a dream for so long,

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the disappointment of this house seems to have affected Harry.

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-What do you think of this room?

-I don't care. You know...

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For me, the big thing was you come to Australia,

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big houses, living the dream, sunshine...

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You know, I've seen the first house. I don't care now. For me, the whole...

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I don't know. I just...

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I expected maybe too much from Australia already.

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The first...

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HE SOBS

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This just shows the sheer emotional investment Harry has put into this move

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and how much it means to him.

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He may be bitterly disappointed, but will seeing the price make some difference?

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If this house is far enough below their £300,000 budget,

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they could be able to afford something much better.

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-I'm going to let you do it. I don't want to do it.

-Are you ready?

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£205,000.

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£95,000 below budget, but has that given any hope?

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I can get a really nice house in the UK for that price.

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Yeah, I agree.

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I'll stick with where I am and that's disheartening.

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Don't be too deflated because maybe the next property might be...

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It's got to be better than this one, surely.

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This is a really bad start.

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After years of trying to persuade Nabeela on Australia,

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suddenly, Harry is losing faith in his dream.

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I feel let down.

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I feel I've sold Nabeela a dream

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which is not a dream.

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And therefore, that's making me upset

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because I'm the one that's trying to drive this dream forward.

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Perhaps the second property will help Harry's case.

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It's in the newer area of Roxburgh Park which has been developed for family living

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with plenty of parks, lakes and shops close to hand.

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It's a larger four-bedroom house with a more modern styling.

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Can this make up for the upset of the first property?

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Oh! Nice.

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Oh, this is a little baby's room, like a little nursery.

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-Yeah, it's like our Eliza's back at home.

-Yeah.

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-I think this looks all right.

-Yeah.

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-Master bedroom, is it?

-It's modern. It's like ours.

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-I like this.

-Yeah.

-I'm just a bit worried about this -

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-the bedrooms always being at the front of the house.

-It's not like that back in...

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But maybe from the UK to Australia, you have to adapt and maybe this is what it's all about.

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-But so far, it's OK.

-Yeah.

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Things are certainly looking up. Nabeela is warming to this house and Harry is back on form.

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That's nice, isn't it?

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-You're not having one.

-It is nice.

-Not having one.

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Oh, nice!

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-OK...

-It's nice.

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-It's...

-Yeah.

-It's better.

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-Yeah.

-It's better.

-Yeah.

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-This kitchen is big enough, isn't it?

-It's big enough for people to gather round and have a chit-chat.

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-Do you think you could cook in here?

-Definitely.

-Yeah. I think I could make something in...

-Yeah.

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-It's better.

-This has got the wow factor.

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I could easily picture myself in this property.

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-And the kitchen is not that far.

-You could have a chat with someone while they're cooking.

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If I was in the kitchen and we had guests round, we could have a chat.

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The Haroons are certainly looking settled in, but could they afford to call this their home?

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It all depends on the price.

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-Last time I made you do it, but this time I'm more confident.

-Go for it.

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This house might be well within their £300,000 budget,

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but Harry isn't satisfied.

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Everything that I've seen, I'd be content and happy living here,

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but I want something even better.

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After years of wanting to move to Australia,

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it's understandable that Harry doesn't want to settle for a house they only just like,

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but now everything stands or falls on the last house.

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It's also in the same area.

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This is a modern-style house, but bigger and in a more scenic setting than the last one.

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Straight away, Harry is quick to spot a difference that makes it more appealing.

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-It's not a bedroom at the front.

-I totally agree with you.

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-I don't like bedrooms being right at the front where you open the door and it's there.

-So far, it's a plus.

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This is good.

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-It's massive.

-Yeah.

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-Absolutely massive.

-It is so big, isn't it?

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It's got the wow factor, I think.

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It's what we wanted.

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-I'm definitely coming round to this concept of open-plan.

-Yeah.

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At last, the Haroons have found a house that has got both of them excited.

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-Oh, wow!

-It's massive. Look at the master. It's massive.

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Massive master bedroom.

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-It's so spacious, isn't it?

-Come here.

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Oh!

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Wow, wow, wow, wow!

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-His and hers. So when you're here...

-And you're brushing your teeth...

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No, when you're here doing your hair and I'm shouting at you,

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-I can just walk across here...

-You can use your own.

-I can walk across here and use my own.

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Yeah.

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Outside, the garden is the final piece in Harry's vision of life down under.

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This is what I expected from a house in Australia.

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You have a big, massive house

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and a porch area where you serve...

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Even if it starts raining, I think it'll be OK, won't it?

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-It doesn't rain in Melbourne.

-It does. It rained on the first day we got here, Harry.

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So is this house within their £300,000 budget?

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It's one aspect Harry just can't bear to face.

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-You turn it over.

-OK.

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-I'm not even going to look at it.

-OK.

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I'm not looking at it.

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-I want you to look at it.

-I don't want to look at it. I just want you to be happy.

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-Are you going to look at it now?

-No.

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No!

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-No?

-Yeah.

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Can you believe that?

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No.

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Oh, my gosh! I think I need to sit down.

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With this house bang on budget, have the Haroons found the perfect home?

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It's been a day of real ups and downs.

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The first house left Harry in a terrible state and regretting the entire move.

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The second gave them hope that a home they liked was within reach

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and the third property had the space and style to wow them both.

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So after a day of raw emotions, has anyone been convinced by Australian houses?

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Based on our experiences of Australian property, we are voting for...

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BOTH: Australia!

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Let's have a look.

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Yes! Australia!

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-I'll be honest. Before this house, I was undecided.

-Yeah.

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And now...

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-the final house made me go for Australia.

-Yeah.

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-You?

-It was that final house that did it. If we hadn't been shown that final house... Yeah.

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After a day of highs and lows, Nabeela's vote for Melbourne was exactly what Harry was hoping for,

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but their dream home isn't going to come cheap.

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And taking on a bigger mortgage means it's vital

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that Harry finds good work prospects and a salary to match.

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In the UK, Harry is a policeman.

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It's a career he loves and wants to continue in Australia, but he knows the clock is ticking.

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I'm coming to the age of 36, going on 37.

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How long have I got left

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to get to Australia or get into the Australian police?

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So I'm just thinking maybe the time that I've got left to apply

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is minimising and I need to now do something about it.

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In Australia, there are two types of police force -

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state police for each region and federal police covering the whole of the country.

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Harry would love to join the federal police, but as a new citizen,

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he'd only be able to work in the state division.

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However, after one year, he would be able to apply for jobs as a federal officer.

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Harry is going to spend the morning with Agent Aaron Thomson

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who starts off by showing him around their Melbourne headquarters.

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So this is just an outdoor area we can use for our fitness training.

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-Wow!

-If it's a nice day, on a Friday afternoon, we might even have a barbecue out here.

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I just can't believe it. You're on top of the building,

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-you can see skyscrapers and this is where you do your training?

-That's right.

-Wow!

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It shows you again what a great position we're in in Melbourne in the heart of the city.

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The facilities have certainly impressed Harry.

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Across town, Nabeela is on her own fact-finding mission.

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She is worried that leaving her life in the UK would mean losing contact with her Muslim roots,

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so she is spending the day exploring Melbourne with Tania who moved here six years ago.

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You'll find very mixed ethnicities here. It's great. I love it. It's a nice place.

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-This is just like being in Manchester.

-Does it remind you of home?

-Yeah, on a weekend.

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It does remind me very much of home.

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You'll find everything there - halal shops and clothing and food.

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-So you've got a good selection of...?

-Yes.

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Lots of places to stop by with the kids. Yeah, you don't have to worry about finding halal food.

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-Like party wear and Asian weddings?

-Yeah, as well.

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CBD has got lots as well. Sydney Road is great.

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Back at the station, Harry is finding out about his main reasons for wanting to emigrate.

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For me, the most important thing is - can I find that work/life balance?

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And I'm trying to get it to where I can spend a lot of time with my family, especially being young.

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There are situations where we have to be here for long periods of time,

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but generally speaking, the AFP operates for the core business hours of eight till four every day

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and I've had no complaints from my family about being away too much.

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They understand that it's an important job that we do, but 90% of the time, I'm home on time.

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Harry looks happy with those hours, but is the pay anything to smile about?

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As a probationary constable straight out of the Police Academy,

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-you'd be looking in the vicinity of about 65,000 dollars, Australian, a year.

-Right.

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-That obviously progresses. Each year, you get a raise.

-Right.

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Then promotions would increase that even higher later on in your career.

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That's a starting salary which is nearly £10,000 more than he earns in the UK.

0:21:310:21:36

After a day full of positive news, Harry drops into the State Police station to pick up a job form.

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Meanwhile, Nabeela is addressing her biggest worry - leaving family and friends.

0:21:450:21:51

I feel that we've got everything back home in England.

0:21:510:21:57

We've got our family, our friends, a good infrastructure there.

0:21:570:22:00

I understand where you're coming from. I had to go through the same.

0:22:000:22:05

I was very fortunate to meet really lovely people here right from the beginning.

0:22:050:22:10

-So, yeah, that helped me a lot.

-Right. So you've made friends here?

-Easily. It's a beautiful community.

0:22:100:22:17

-What's it like for you living in Melbourne as a Muslim woman?

-I find it much easier, in general.

0:22:170:22:24

-They seem very easygoing in Australia.

-And you can practise your religion here?

-Oh, absolutely.

0:22:240:22:30

-No problem at all.

-OK.

-The community is very diverse.

0:22:300:22:34

-You think the kids would fit in?

-Oh, yes. They're so gorgeous.

0:22:340:22:38

They'll make friends really quickly.

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With those reassurances in mind, Nabeela heads across town to see how Harry got on.

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After a day filled with good news, do we need to ask which way Harry will vote?

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Based on my job experience in Australia today, I'm voting for...

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UK!

0:23:000:23:02

No, it's Australia. I wanted to see your reaction.

0:23:030:23:07

-It's Australia. Were you shocked?

-Yeah, I was like, "What's going on?!"

0:23:070:23:13

-It's Australia.

-Why have you voted Australia again?

-You know why I've voted Australia.

0:23:130:23:19

First of all, excellent day with the Fed Police, which I want to do.

0:23:190:23:24

Victoria Police, interesting. It's what I do on a day-to-day basis.

0:23:240:23:29

-Most importantly, the work/life balance. Were you surprised?

-No.

0:23:290:23:33

-See.

-No.

-Am I predictable?

0:23:330:23:36

-Yes.

-It's Australia!

0:23:370:23:40

I don't think playing practical jokes on Nabeela is the best way to win her over,

0:23:440:23:49

but there's no pretending - Harry's even more convinced about moving Down Under.

0:23:490:23:55

One thing, though, even he can't joke about is the cost of living in Australia.

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Back in the UK, the Haroons own a four-bedroom detached house in Rochdale.

0:24:020:24:07

They bought it for £230,000 and need a good price to be able to afford their dream home in Australia.

0:24:070:24:15

Let's have a look.

0:24:170:24:19

We sent round two estate agents to give us an up-to-date valuation.

0:24:190:24:24

Our house!

0:24:240:24:26

He's too tall for the room!

0:24:290:24:31

Nice and light. Good for the family.

0:24:310:24:34

-I want to see the kitchen.

-Really nice kitchen. Very modern. Lots of integrated appliances.

0:24:340:24:40

-Exactly what the modern family are looking for. Really lovely room.

-Thank you.

0:24:400:24:46

Right. So a very good size main bedroom. Obviously, the parents' bedroom.

0:24:480:24:56

Nicely-fitted wardrobes.

0:24:560:24:58

Nice-sized conservatory. Great overlooking the garden.

0:24:580:25:01

-Your room. Harry's room - the garage.

-Oh!

0:25:030:25:07

Good-sized garage. Going to be really popular, this, with modern families.

0:25:090:25:13

With current market conditions, I anticipate the value to be £220,000

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and, for a quicker sale, £210,000. A great family home.

0:25:180:25:23

Based on today's market,

0:25:230:25:25

I'd value the property at £225,000.

0:25:250:25:28

If they wanted to achieve a quick sale, probably look at marketing it around £219,950.

0:25:280:25:34

-We bought it for more.

-Yeah.

-So slightly disappointed at the value.

0:25:340:25:40

Because we have, obviously, put a conservatory in. And the en suite.

0:25:400:25:45

With both of those figures lower than they'd hoped for,

0:25:450:25:49

everything depends on a closer look at their finances,

0:25:490:25:53

so we've drawn up comparisons of their living costs. Will it add up to a life in Australia or UK?

0:25:530:26:01

-It's £10 more. Just for cucumbers!

-Yeah, it's everything, really. It's quite a big chunk of it.

0:26:010:26:07

Australia is renowned for its relatively high food prices,

0:26:070:26:11

-but how do all the family outgoings add up?

-Oh, my God. It's actually less than the UK.

0:26:110:26:18

That's a surprise.

0:26:180:26:20

24,600.

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Whereas...

0:26:240:26:25

the UK was 27,600.

0:26:260:26:29

So it's 3,000 less a year.

0:26:290:26:32

Why would the cost of living be cheaper here than in the UK?

0:26:320:26:37

Here in Australia

0:26:370:26:39

I don't have to put into the pension fund because the police pay into the pension for me.

0:26:390:26:45

However, without family to help with childcare in Australia, Nabeela would give up work and stay at home

0:26:450:26:52

until the children were settled. How does that affect their income?

0:26:520:26:56

In the UK we had £8,400 left over.

0:26:560:26:59

In Australia, we've got less.

0:26:590:27:02

We are £3,500 worse off,

0:27:020:27:06

-a year.

-In Australia.

-In Australia.

0:27:060:27:10

Lower living costs, but also a lower income.

0:27:100:27:14

Have their calculations sold them on a life Down Under?

0:27:140:27:18

Based on the reality check, we are voting for...

0:27:180:27:22

-Australia!

-Undecided.

0:27:270:27:29

-Why?

-Because...

0:27:310:27:33

-we're still better off in the UK.

-No, the figures don't say that.

0:27:330:27:38

-They don't.

-What do the figures say, then?

0:27:380:27:42

OK, the figures DO say that, but they don't say that.

0:27:420:27:46

-My understanding is that we are still better off in the UK.

-For £3,500 every year,

0:27:460:27:54

you haven't worked that whole year. So for one year's... and £3,500 difference,

0:27:540:28:01

-I think the figure's show we're better off in Australia.

-That's why I'm undecided.

0:28:010:28:06

-No, I don't get it.

-That's why I'm undecided.

0:28:060:28:10

The figures do show we've still got more disposable income,

0:28:100:28:15

but, yeah, that's based on just you working, not me.

0:28:150:28:19

So for that reason I'm undecided.

0:28:190:28:22

-I still don't get it.

-Don't argue with me. That's my choice.

0:28:220:28:27

-OK. That's your choice. Australia.

-Undecided.

0:28:270:28:30

It looks like this week is becoming a battle of heart versus head.

0:28:340:28:38

For Harry, Australia has always been about a quality of life he could have with his family.

0:28:380:28:44

Now he's got to show Nabeela exactly what he means.

0:28:440:28:48

Back in the UK, shift patterns and long working hours have meant Harry missed out on time with his family.

0:28:480:28:55

He's hoping emigrating Down Under would offer the lifestyle he craves.

0:28:550:29:00

I think going to Australia is all about family

0:29:000:29:05

and spending time with my daughters. It's about actually, when we are together,

0:29:050:29:10

doing something together.

0:29:100:29:14

When he's there, he's really good with them. He does spend quality time with them when he gets an opportunity

0:29:140:29:20

but to be able to do, like, do this more often

0:29:200:29:24

it would be nice.

0:29:240:29:27

So this morning the Haroons are joining an activity group for young families

0:29:270:29:32

to sample outdoor living, Melbourne style.

0:29:320:29:35

-Look at that go!

-There's mine.

0:29:350:29:38

-Let's go play in some trees!

-From the serious to the silly, it's a real chance

0:29:380:29:44

for the Haroons to enjoy time together.

0:29:440:29:48

Let's throw that on and give it a little fly, shall we?

0:29:480:29:52

One! Two! Three!

0:29:520:29:55

I'm not sure who's enjoying this more, Harry or the children.

0:29:580:30:01

And once the fun slows down there's a chance to speak to other people who've also made the move.

0:30:010:30:08

-What's it like raising children in Melbourne?

-I think it's really good.

0:30:080:30:12

There's lots of sport. Sport is a really big thing here, for children in particular.

0:30:120:30:18

I found that if I met some mums, you'd chat and if you went back the next week, they knew you by name,

0:30:180:30:25

they remembered things about you. You just make friends like that. Australians are very friendly people.

0:30:250:30:31

That's what I was told all the time, back in the UK in the police.

0:30:310:30:36

"Harry, Australians are lovely people, friendly people." This is what I want to experience.

0:30:360:30:43

It certainly seems like Harry has heard just what he wanted to hear.

0:30:430:30:47

Then the Haroons are off for a whole new experience.

0:30:470:30:52

-I think this is the first time she's seen sand.

-Yeah. First time we've had a picnic on the beach.

0:30:520:30:58

-Yeah, but she doesn't know you don't throw the sand on the food!

-Yeah!

0:30:580:31:04

That's not right! Come on!

0:31:040:31:07

This is what I've wanted, honestly.

0:31:080:31:10

This is what I always thought Australia was all about. The sun, the sand and the peace and quiet.

0:31:100:31:18

It's nice. It's nice being on the beach.

0:31:180:31:22

This is exactly the kind of lifestyle that's motivating Harry to emigrate.

0:31:220:31:27

However, it doesn't seem to have had the same effect on Nabeela.

0:31:270:31:31

I'm not feeling like you actually want to be here.

0:31:310:31:35

What is stopping us doing this back home?

0:31:350:31:39

Why do you have to come to the other side of the world

0:31:390:31:43

to appreciate a beach, a picnic on the beach?

0:31:430:31:47

-No, we don't have to move to the other side of the world.

-But that's what you're asking.

-I'm not.

0:31:470:31:53

I'm just saying the experience we're getting here...is a brilliant experience.

0:31:530:32:00

And maybe, yes, we could have this closer to home,

0:32:000:32:04

but overall I think this is

0:32:050:32:08

a picture-perfect situation.

0:32:080:32:11

But what you don't get here is to get grandparents to come along.

0:32:110:32:16

Amani's cousins, Amani's grandma

0:32:160:32:19

to come along and have a picnic with us.

0:32:190:32:23

Can you see it from that point of view?

0:32:230:32:27

I don't think Harry and Nabeela are going to see eye-to-eye on this just yet.

0:32:270:32:33

So is there any chance of an agreement when it comes to voting?

0:32:330:32:39

-Australia!

-Undecided!

0:32:410:32:43

Mine's Australia. Why are you undecided?

0:32:440:32:47

-We can do this, back in England, if the weather permits.

-You can't do this,

0:32:470:32:53

-what we've got here, in the UK.

-You can.

0:32:530:32:56

-There's no way I can change your mind?

-For now it's undecided.

0:32:560:33:01

Both Harry and Nabeela want the best future for their family,

0:33:050:33:09

but their day in Melbourne left them worlds apart on where it should be.

0:33:090:33:13

One thing they do agree on is that emigrating means leaving behind the people they love.

0:33:130:33:19

Harry and Nabeela are going to watch a DVD from friends and family in the UK without the girls,

0:33:190:33:25

-as the messages can be quite upsetting.

-OK. Ready for this?

0:33:250:33:29

-No!

-Could this be the deciding factor?

0:33:290:33:32

'It's hard to describe Harry.

0:33:350:33:39

'He's quite a force.'

0:33:390:33:41

He's got a massive heart. It's this big.

0:33:430:33:46

Harry's a very close-knit family person.

0:33:460:33:50

He's got his sister and his mum.

0:33:500:33:54

'He's the only brother I've got.'

0:33:540:33:57

And he's my brother, my sister, everything.

0:33:570:34:01

'He's loving, he's caring.'

0:34:030:34:06

And my sister-in-law is just the same. And the two princesses, the girls, they are everything to me.

0:34:060:34:13

It's quite difficult to imagine that they are going to be going so far away.

0:34:170:34:22

I think family kind of belong to each other. It's the way... That's what family is.

0:34:250:34:31

You know, I can't imagine him not being here for Christmas,

0:34:310:34:36

or for Eid. Or for one of the birthdays.

0:34:360:34:39

And watching the kids grow up. It's not all about Harry or Nabeela.

0:34:390:34:43

It's really about being part of their family life.

0:34:430:34:47

We're expecting our second child

0:34:470:34:51

so I think Harry not being here is going to be a bit of a shame

0:34:510:34:58

because then he won't be able to see the baby grow up and...

0:34:580:35:02

I'll be honest with you, Harry.

0:35:060:35:09

A routine will happen, inevitably, where, you know,

0:35:090:35:13

we just get used to not speaking to you. I don't want that, but that's what will happen.

0:35:130:35:19

You're not just moving and going away and we'll still be part of your life.

0:35:190:35:23

It won't exactly be like that.

0:35:230:35:26

No, I don't want them to go.

0:35:280:35:31

I think he knows that we're going to miss them. It goes almost without saying,

0:35:310:35:37

but...

0:35:370:35:38

he might be surprised just how much it affects us if we think about it.

0:35:400:35:46

We need you as much as you probably need us.

0:35:480:35:52

Without you guys here, there's a part of us that will be really lost.

0:35:520:35:56

You know I love you so much. You're my little sister and everything

0:35:570:36:02

and Eliza and Amani, you know how much I adore them.

0:36:020:36:06

I know you want the best for the girls, but at the same time

0:36:060:36:10

I hope you can think about us, too, that we will miss you a lot.

0:36:100:36:15

I will really, really miss you because you're a very special brother.

0:36:170:36:22

-I don't know. I'm...

-These are the family that our kids will lose touch with.

0:36:230:36:31

-I know moving here is the right thing to do for me...

-You don't know that, Harry.

0:36:310:36:37

There's no way you could know that.

0:36:370:36:40

You think. You hope it would be the right thing to do.

0:36:400:36:46

I'm just...

0:36:460:36:48

-That's...

-..looking at Amani and just thinking what am I taking...

0:36:480:36:54

Away from her. Grandparents, aunties, uncles, cousins.

0:36:560:37:01

Watching those messages hit everyone hard, but for Harry in particular

0:37:120:37:17

it was a painful reminder that his dream will come at a very high price.

0:37:170:37:23

So as they reach their final vote, is it one the Haroons are really willing to pay?

0:37:230:37:28

I've built Australia up to be this dream that I've got.

0:37:330:37:38

Once I get my heart set on something, I can achieve that goal.

0:37:390:37:43

And maybe sometimes I need to...

0:37:430:37:46

not have tunnel vision, but look at the bigger picture.

0:37:470:37:52

And that, if I'm being honest, I've not done on previous occasions.

0:37:520:37:57

I think if they had said, "Go," it would have been easier.

0:37:570:38:03

But it's the fact that they weren't saying that.

0:38:030:38:08

The fear that I have is my dream to live in Australia,

0:38:090:38:14

my dream for a better life for my children, could drive me apart from my family that I love

0:38:140:38:20

-back at home.

-There's a possibility

0:38:200:38:23

we could vote the same or we could vote differently.

0:38:230:38:27

I'm not really sure where we'd go from there.

0:38:270:38:32

We've had an amazing time here in Australia. Based on it, the country we're going to live in is...

0:38:400:38:46

-Australia!

-UK!

0:38:540:38:56

-What did you vote?

-UK.

0:38:570:38:59

OK, go on. Why?

0:38:590:39:01

It's made me realise how much we have back home that we don't appreciate.

0:39:010:39:08

The only second that I had any doubt was when I watched the family and friends messages.

0:39:080:39:14

How are we going to decide?

0:39:140:39:17

I've always said I want this because of what's best for the family.

0:39:250:39:31

And the last thing I want is me forcing something on you that you are not happy with,

0:39:310:39:38

but I want you to open your heart, open your mind to the possibility

0:39:380:39:42

-of what this wonderful place...

-Yeah.

-..could bring to you, me and our two daughters.

0:39:420:39:49

Despite pulling out all the stops, Harry was unable to convince Nabeela to share his Australian dream

0:40:010:40:08

and the Haroons were left unable to decide where their future lay.

0:40:080:40:12

So has anything changed?

0:40:120:40:15

Well, they've been back a few weeks now, so I've come to find out.

0:40:150:40:19

Last time we saw you, it was a 50/50 split vote, wasn't it?

0:40:220:40:26

-Harry, surprise surprise, loved Australia.

-Unbelievable.

0:40:260:40:32

-You voted for the UK, didn't you?

-Yes, I did.

0:40:320:40:35

I started imagining us living there whilst we were out there, picturing us living there permanently.

0:40:350:40:42

And then it made me realise how much family meant to me when they weren't there.

0:40:420:40:48

I started missing them, even in that space of time.

0:40:480:40:53

I just felt it wasn't the right time for us to go.

0:40:530:40:57

-It is a high price to pay.

-It's a massive price to pay.

0:40:570:41:01

-Yeah, I have realised that.

-Yeah.

0:41:010:41:04

If I take anything back, it's family and friends and what they mean.

0:41:040:41:09

-You were both very surprised by that strength of feeling, especially you, Harry.

-Yeah.

0:41:090:41:14

-You were in bits.

-It was a complete shock.

0:41:140:41:18

And I'm talking to you now and I'm still getting a funny... in my stomach.

0:41:180:41:24

I'd have thought I'd have overcome that, but I'm still feeling it now.

0:41:240:41:29

You always had that in the back of your mind. Were you surprised?

0:41:290:41:33

I wasn't expecting him to get so upset, but then I wasn't expecting the messages to be so powerful

0:41:330:41:41

-and to be so...

-Yeah.

-..emotional. Is that the right word?

-Overwhelming.

-Yeah, overwhelming.

0:41:410:41:47

-They were very honest.

-Very honest.

0:41:470:41:50

When they said they didn't want me to go, that just put the brakes on everything.

0:41:500:41:55

Normally they understand why I do things, and why I'm doing it,

0:41:550:42:00

but now I'm getting, "We don't want you to go." That's changed the whole complexion of what I'm thinking.

0:42:000:42:06

Nabeela, how would you vote if I asked you today?

0:42:060:42:10

At this present time, UK,

0:42:100:42:14

but for the future it's undecided.

0:42:140:42:16

-So it's not UK, you know, forever.

-So that flag's slightly moving!

0:42:160:42:21

And that's more than enough.

0:42:210:42:23

OK, so if you've got to make a decision - Australia, new life,

0:42:230:42:29

-or being with all your loved ones?

-Loved ones. Whatever happens, whatever happens,

0:42:290:42:34

if the loved ones said to me, "Harry, we're happy for you to go,"

0:42:340:42:39

and I got some support, it would be Australia. But at this stage, loved ones all day long.

0:42:390:42:44

They mean everything to me.

0:42:440:42:46

Nabeela, I have a feeling that your husband will spend the next two years convincing everyone

0:42:460:42:52

-to give their blessing!

-I think you might be right.

0:42:520:42:55

But we're in it together.

0:42:550:42:58

-So let's see what the future brings.

-Yeah.

0:42:580:43:01

We wish you all the very best of luck, wherever it is, the UK or Australia. Thank you very much.

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