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If you were desperate to return | 0:00:02 | 0:00:03 | |
to the country where you were born, | 0:00:03 | 0:00:05 | |
how would you begin to convince your | 0:00:05 | 0:00:06 | |
wife and children to join you? | 0:00:06 | 0:00:09 | |
Especially if that land lies on the other side of the globe. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:12 | |
After 18 years living in the UK, Kiwi Andrew Schnell is | 0:00:14 | 0:00:17 | |
desperate to uproot his young family and move back home. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:21 | |
I have really been wanting to move back to | 0:00:21 | 0:00:23 | |
New Zealand for the last four and a half, maybe five years. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:26 | |
Wife Katrina is reluctant to go... | 0:00:26 | 0:00:28 | |
I know, in reality, that us going to New Zealand will cause | 0:00:28 | 0:00:31 | |
an awful lot of hurt and upset to a lot of people that I love. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:34 | |
..but when the whole family are blown away by Kiwi property... | 0:00:34 | 0:00:37 | |
-Oh, my gosh! That is pretty fantastic. -Is this it? -Yeah. | 0:00:37 | 0:00:40 | |
-It's definitely got the wow factor. -It's amazing. You can't get better. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:44 | |
You just can't get better than this. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:45 | |
..will the value of their house back home put an end to the dream? | 0:00:45 | 0:00:48 | |
-That's no good. -We wouldn't make a penny on that. -No. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:51 | |
New Zealand's an island nation just over 1,200 miles south east of | 0:01:21 | 0:01:25 | |
Australia, with a rich and diverse cultural heritage, | 0:01:25 | 0:01:28 | |
around 64% of British families hoping to move there | 0:01:28 | 0:01:31 | |
believe it will offer a more relaxed pace of life, | 0:01:31 | 0:01:34 | |
but is it really the utopia they imagine? | 0:01:34 | 0:01:37 | |
Ahead of Andrew Schnell lies just one week to show his family | 0:01:39 | 0:01:43 | |
how good life could be in the country where he was born. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:47 | |
At the end of the week, they'll face a decision that could | 0:01:47 | 0:01:50 | |
change the course of their lives for ever - | 0:01:50 | 0:01:52 | |
whether to stay in the UK or start a new life down under. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:56 | |
The Schnells have endured almost 40 hours of travelling to | 0:01:58 | 0:02:01 | |
get from Northern Ireland to New Zealand, | 0:02:01 | 0:02:04 | |
and Andrew's family have gathered at the airport to give them | 0:02:04 | 0:02:07 | |
a warm welcome. | 0:02:07 | 0:02:09 | |
'I haven't seen him for, what? Two and a half, three years. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:12 | |
'It's great excitement.' | 0:02:12 | 0:02:14 | |
It's one of those days that you look forward to. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:18 | |
It's an emotional reunion, | 0:02:18 | 0:02:19 | |
but the family are exhausted after their flight. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:22 | |
It's not for the faint-hearted, but we're glad we're here. It was long. | 0:02:22 | 0:02:26 | |
It was a good flight, but it is a long, long flight, so, | 0:02:26 | 0:02:30 | |
it's good to be here at long last. | 0:02:30 | 0:02:32 | |
It seems like it's taken years to come round. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:35 | |
And now they're here, how's Katrina feeling about the week ahead? | 0:02:35 | 0:02:38 | |
I'm coming over with an open mind, | 0:02:38 | 0:02:40 | |
so I'm hoping that answers the questions and, | 0:02:40 | 0:02:42 | |
whatever the answer is, that we can all live with it and move forward. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:48 | |
And that we find peace with it. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:51 | |
But with just one week to come to a life-changing decision, | 0:02:52 | 0:02:55 | |
it looks like Andrew's trip home will be far from relaxing. | 0:02:55 | 0:02:59 | |
Back in the UK, Andrew and Katrina Schnell live with their children, | 0:03:01 | 0:03:04 | |
11-year-old Hannah and nine-year-old Josh | 0:03:04 | 0:03:07 | |
in Cushendall, Northern Ireland. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:09 | |
We've got a really good life here in Cushendall. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:13 | |
We're part of a fabulous community. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:15 | |
We've both got good jobs and the kids are so settled with school. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:20 | |
The couple met backpacking in Australia almost 20 years ago, | 0:03:20 | 0:03:24 | |
but after 18 years of marriage and two children, Andrew, who's | 0:03:24 | 0:03:28 | |
originally from New Zealand, has decided it's time to return home. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:32 | |
I have really been wanting to move back to | 0:03:32 | 0:03:34 | |
New Zealand for the last four and a half, maybe five years. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:36 | |
And, certainly, after being in New Zealand | 0:03:36 | 0:03:39 | |
three years ago on holiday, that's compounded that. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:42 | |
It's been a dream and it's something that's been talked about | 0:03:42 | 0:03:45 | |
both with Katrina and myself and it's caused a few arguments. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:48 | |
But, for Katrina, | 0:03:48 | 0:03:49 | |
emigrating would mean leaving behind close family and friends. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:54 | |
I'm trying to be the supportive wife | 0:03:54 | 0:03:56 | |
and not dampen his enthusiasm for going, but it's very difficult | 0:03:56 | 0:04:01 | |
sometimes, because I know, in reality, that us going to New Zealand | 0:04:01 | 0:04:06 | |
will cause an awful lot of hurt and upset to a lot of people that I love. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:10 | |
The subject's split the family in two, with Josh taking | 0:04:10 | 0:04:13 | |
his dad's side and Hannah erring on the side of caution, like her mum. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:17 | |
I'm looking forward to going, but, if I do go, | 0:04:18 | 0:04:21 | |
whenever I first get there, I'll probably be missing everything, | 0:04:21 | 0:04:25 | |
but I think I'll get over it. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:27 | |
-HANNAH: -'It is where he grew up and I don't blame him for wanting to | 0:04:27 | 0:04:30 | |
'go back and, you know, seeing his family, his brother,' | 0:04:30 | 0:04:34 | |
but he has to remember that there's the rest of our family to consider. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:39 | |
The Schnells lead an active life in Cushendall. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:42 | |
Josh is mad about hurling | 0:04:42 | 0:04:43 | |
and Hannah's biggest passion is riding her beloved horse, Omagh. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:47 | |
Andrew's convinced, though, | 0:04:47 | 0:04:49 | |
that there's even more opportunities in New Zealand. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:52 | |
I grew up in New Zealand. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:53 | |
I left when I was 21, 22, | 0:04:53 | 0:04:56 | |
and I look at the lifestyle that I had growing up, | 0:04:56 | 0:04:59 | |
the outdoor lifestyle, the fact that you can be outdoors pretty much | 0:04:59 | 0:05:02 | |
12 months of the year and our lives here in Ireland at the moment, | 0:05:02 | 0:05:06 | |
we do feel that we hibernate for, you know, | 0:05:06 | 0:05:09 | |
four and five months a year. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:11 | |
Katrina worries Andrew is only remembering the good old times. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:14 | |
'He does look at it with rose-tinted glasses, | 0:05:14 | 0:05:17 | |
'so I don't know what improvements can be made by moving to New Zealand, | 0:05:17 | 0:05:20 | |
'other than being able to maybe' | 0:05:20 | 0:05:22 | |
forward plan events and doing things | 0:05:22 | 0:05:24 | |
because we know the weather will be on side. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:27 | |
I just don't think it's a strong enough reason to move. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:30 | |
SOUND DIPPED | 0:05:31 | 0:05:33 | |
For her, one of the hardest things to overcome is | 0:05:33 | 0:05:35 | |
the thought of taking the children away from their doting grandparents. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:40 | |
My mum, I think it's fair to say, is treating this like a bereavement. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:44 | |
She's going through the motions, she's cried, she's shouted, | 0:05:44 | 0:05:47 | |
she's got very, very upset about it, about us going | 0:05:47 | 0:05:51 | |
and that weighs heavily on me. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:54 | |
I lose sleep over the idea that this could happen | 0:05:54 | 0:05:58 | |
and that I am going to really hurt the people that I love. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:01 | |
It will be really, really hard. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:04 | |
It's something that weighs very, very heavily with me. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:07 | |
Um, I'm very, very aware of their feelings and, | 0:06:07 | 0:06:11 | |
look, they have been... | 0:06:11 | 0:06:13 | |
they've been parents almost to Hannah and Josh | 0:06:13 | 0:06:16 | |
as much as grandparents. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:17 | |
'Moving would undoubtedly cause heartache | 0:06:18 | 0:06:21 | |
'and while Katrina sometimes finds it an exciting prospect, | 0:06:21 | 0:06:24 | |
'ultimately, her heart is at home.' | 0:06:24 | 0:06:26 | |
'He is acutely aware that the only reason we're considering moving | 0:06:26 | 0:06:30 | |
'to New Zealand is because he's a Kiwi. If I had married' | 0:06:30 | 0:06:34 | |
an Irishman or, you know, someone from this country, | 0:06:34 | 0:06:38 | |
at this point in my life, at 41 years of age with two young children, | 0:06:38 | 0:06:41 | |
I wouldn't be considering moving. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:43 | |
Andrew's well aware of Katrina's feelings, but desperately | 0:06:43 | 0:06:47 | |
wants the chance to make his dream of moving back home their reality. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:51 | |
As it stands at the moment, there's two boys against two girls, | 0:06:51 | 0:06:54 | |
but I don't know if I can swing Katrina round, I really don't. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:59 | |
We have things really, really good here, | 0:06:59 | 0:07:01 | |
so New Zealand's going to have to be pretty special to convince | 0:07:01 | 0:07:05 | |
Katrina that it's the right thing to do. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:07 | |
In New Zealand, the Schnells are visiting the North Island. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:16 | |
With the spine of mountain ranges running through the middle, | 0:07:16 | 0:07:19 | |
this part of the country is dominated by the volcanic plateau, | 0:07:19 | 0:07:22 | |
an active volcanic and thermal area. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:26 | |
For their week down under, | 0:07:26 | 0:07:27 | |
they'll be staying in this fully converted barn nestled in the heart | 0:07:27 | 0:07:31 | |
of the Bombay Hills, just 35 minutes south of Auckland city centre. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:35 | |
-Oh, wow. -Oh, my word. Look at that. -We've got a big deck area. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:38 | |
-Look at the view! -Jeez, that's fantastic. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:41 | |
-Wow! -Wow. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:43 | |
Set on six acres and with spectacular views back to the | 0:07:43 | 0:07:47 | |
city, it could give the scenic setting they've | 0:07:47 | 0:07:49 | |
left in Northern Ireland a run for its money. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:52 | |
What do you think, Hannah? | 0:07:52 | 0:07:54 | |
Could you...could you live in a place like this? | 0:07:54 | 0:07:57 | |
Yes, but it needs to have flat fields. | 0:07:57 | 0:07:58 | |
It needs to have flat fields. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:01 | |
You can imagine the sun setting down there over Auckland. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:04 | |
-Mm-hm. -Barbecue. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:06 | |
-Absolutely, and a glass of wine. -This is just the kind of place where, | 0:08:06 | 0:08:08 | |
if we were going to move, I'd like to live in. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:11 | |
The hilly landscape might not be perfect for horses, | 0:08:11 | 0:08:14 | |
but will the inside impress? | 0:08:14 | 0:08:16 | |
Wow! Oh, my goodness! | 0:08:16 | 0:08:18 | |
-That's beautiful, isn't it? -It's got so much character. It's lovely. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:21 | |
This is open plan living. That's what you're looking for though, isn't it? | 0:08:21 | 0:08:25 | |
What do you think, Josh? You're just tired, son. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:28 | |
Poor Josh might need a sleep, but is this two-bedroom barn | 0:08:28 | 0:08:31 | |
somewhere the family could temporarily call home? | 0:08:31 | 0:08:34 | |
-Yes, I think this will do the Schnells just fine, won't it? -Absolutely. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:37 | |
For Andrew, Katrina's enthusiasm is a great start, | 0:08:37 | 0:08:40 | |
as the family face what will almost certainly be a life-changing week. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:44 | |
I'm buzzing to be here, I'm excited to be here, | 0:08:44 | 0:08:47 | |
but I'm a little bit nervous and apprehensive | 0:08:47 | 0:08:49 | |
because I've built it up in my head, I know what it's like. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:52 | |
I'm very aware that this is make or break now, | 0:08:52 | 0:08:55 | |
that one way or another, we're either going to move to New Zealand | 0:08:55 | 0:08:58 | |
or we're going to stay in Northern Ireland. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:00 | |
Back in Northern Ireland, | 0:09:07 | 0:09:08 | |
home for the Schnells is the North Antrim coast. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:11 | |
We have a detached four-bedroom property here in Cushendall | 0:09:11 | 0:09:15 | |
and it's in a great little cul-de-sac. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:18 | |
The neighbours are fantastic and it's got all the bells and whistles, | 0:09:18 | 0:09:22 | |
it's got everything we want and we've worked hard to get it | 0:09:22 | 0:09:24 | |
-and we work hard to keep it, so... -Yeah. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:27 | |
If the family were persuaded to move down under, | 0:09:27 | 0:09:29 | |
they've clear ideas about what their dream house would offer. | 0:09:29 | 0:09:32 | |
The dream house I know that we've both looked | 0:09:32 | 0:09:34 | |
at on the internet would be a really old sort of style wooden house. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:38 | |
A bit of a lawn to kick a ball about with Josh, and of course, | 0:09:38 | 0:09:41 | |
the paddock for Hannah to ride the horse. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:44 | |
It would be situated on what New Zealanders call a lifestyle plot, | 0:09:44 | 0:09:47 | |
so a couple of acres of land and that's essentially so that Hannah | 0:09:47 | 0:09:51 | |
could have a pony at her own home, rather than having to travel | 0:09:51 | 0:09:55 | |
anywhere to go out on the pony. | 0:09:55 | 0:09:57 | |
I'd be able to see it every day and go out riding every day | 0:09:57 | 0:10:00 | |
and the weather would be great for it, | 0:10:00 | 0:10:02 | |
but I'd also have a big bedroom and maybe even a pool if we're lucky. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:06 | |
I would love us to have four bedrooms or else even have a separate | 0:10:06 | 0:10:09 | |
annexe, but somewhere to facilitate or to accommodate visiting friends | 0:10:09 | 0:10:13 | |
and relations, really just trying to replicate where we live here | 0:10:13 | 0:10:17 | |
at the moment in Cushendall. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:19 | |
The Schnells certainly know what they want, | 0:10:21 | 0:10:25 | |
but will their £250,000 budget be enough to buy what they're after? | 0:10:25 | 0:10:29 | |
Today, we'll show them three properties based on what they need, | 0:10:29 | 0:10:33 | |
what they think they want, and what they can actually afford. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:36 | |
It should give them a realistic insight into the true cost of houses | 0:10:36 | 0:10:40 | |
in New Zealand. First up is the township of Waiuku, | 0:10:40 | 0:10:43 | |
25 miles south west of Auckland's central business district. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:47 | |
Located at the tip of the Waiuku River, this small town has | 0:10:47 | 0:10:51 | |
a thriving community spirit, so could be what Katrina's looking for. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:55 | |
It's also where Andrew's brother lives, which would give Hannah | 0:10:55 | 0:10:58 | |
and Josh plenty of playtime with their cousins. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
-HANNAH GASPS -That is nice! -That is nice. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:07 | |
-This is lovely, isn't it? -Yeah. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:12 | |
Upstairs, downstairs. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:15 | |
It's quite a big house. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:17 | |
It is a big house. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:19 | |
This two-storey house has character and land, | 0:11:19 | 0:11:21 | |
but will it appeal to Katrina? | 0:11:21 | 0:11:23 | |
It's a nice room to walk into, isn't it? | 0:11:23 | 0:11:25 | |
But it doesn't seem like a typical New Zealand house to me. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:28 | |
-It looks more like a UK house. -Yeah. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:31 | |
It's a little bit dated, but that's just... | 0:11:31 | 0:11:34 | |
-Well, we could do it up a bit. -Yeah. -There's lots of windows. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:37 | |
There's a little deck area. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:39 | |
Let's see. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:41 | |
-Look at that. That's a great estuary. -Oh, wow. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:44 | |
I could ride my horse up along that, so I could. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:46 | |
And we could just watch you from here, having a glass of wine. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:49 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:11:49 | 0:11:50 | |
-That is lovely, isn't it? -It's lovely, it's not overlooked. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:53 | |
-The gardens are beautiful. -Nice. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:55 | |
Back inside though, things don't look quite as promising. | 0:11:56 | 0:12:00 | |
-Oh, a little kitchen. -Oh, that is nice. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:03 | |
- There's a wee door there... | 0:12:03 | 0:12:04 | |
I think little might have been the operative word. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:06 | |
Yeah, you would definitely need to | 0:12:06 | 0:12:08 | |
make it bigger, really, I suppose, just... | 0:12:08 | 0:12:10 | |
Kiwis definitely put more emphasis on outside life than inside their | 0:12:10 | 0:12:15 | |
homes, which is understandable, I suppose, considering the climate. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:19 | |
The house has the four bedrooms Katrina wants, | 0:12:19 | 0:12:21 | |
but will their decor be up to spec? | 0:12:21 | 0:12:24 | |
Well, hey, that's a bit of a surprise. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:27 | |
I didn't expect the room to be as big as that. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:29 | |
-Nice and bright and airy. -Oh, can this be my room? | 0:12:29 | 0:12:31 | |
I think this might be the master bedroom, Hannah, | 0:12:31 | 0:12:34 | |
-it might be Mummy and Daddy's bedroom. -I like this house. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:37 | |
I could actually imagine myself living here. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:39 | |
I have yet to be convinced by it. I think it needs a little bit of work. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:42 | |
Hannah can see potential, | 0:12:42 | 0:12:44 | |
but Andrew knows it's Katrina's opinion that really matters. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:47 | |
I like the beams as a feature throughout. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:50 | |
-I don't, really. -OK. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:52 | |
I think this is just too easy to compare to properties back home. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
-Right. -And I think if I'm going to make a move out to somewhere, | 0:12:55 | 0:12:58 | |
out to here, with the climate that we have, I think | 0:12:58 | 0:13:00 | |
we'll be looking for something more open plan | 0:13:00 | 0:13:02 | |
and more conducive to the weather and everything that we have. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:06 | |
I could be standing in the middle of a house in Belfast right now. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:09 | |
It might not be the house of their dreams, | 0:13:09 | 0:13:11 | |
but could their £250,000 budget afford it? | 0:13:11 | 0:13:15 | |
OK, so what do you think it's worth then? | 0:13:15 | 0:13:17 | |
Pounds... | 0:13:17 | 0:13:19 | |
..I think that you would be paying for the view and everything, | 0:13:20 | 0:13:24 | |
so I'd say it would be around the £200,000, £225,000. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:28 | |
I think maybe around 180. OK. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:31 | |
£267,000! | 0:13:34 | 0:13:36 | |
THEY GASP | 0:13:36 | 0:13:38 | |
-I wouldn't pay that! -Rip off! | 0:13:38 | 0:13:40 | |
You're paying for the location here, | 0:13:40 | 0:13:42 | |
and the views and everything that, you know... | 0:13:42 | 0:13:44 | |
It is the views, cos the house needs so much work. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:47 | |
£267,000 is still over our budget. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:49 | |
It means there'd be no more money in the pot to do the work that we | 0:13:49 | 0:13:52 | |
feel the property needs. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:54 | |
No, you'd need to be in love with the property to extend what | 0:13:54 | 0:13:56 | |
you're looking to pay and I just don't have the wow factor. | 0:13:56 | 0:14:00 | |
And Hannah, is there a reason why | 0:14:00 | 0:14:02 | |
you think we shouldn't live in a property like this? | 0:14:02 | 0:14:04 | |
-Not enough room for a horse. -THEY LAUGH | 0:14:04 | 0:14:07 | |
At £17,000 over budget, | 0:14:07 | 0:14:10 | |
it's not the ideal start for Andrew. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:13 | |
Could the next property meet their budget and expectations? | 0:14:13 | 0:14:16 | |
Staying in the Waiuku area, | 0:14:16 | 0:14:18 | |
the family don't have too far to travel to this four-bedroom house. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:21 | |
While it isn't quite a lifestyle plot, | 0:14:21 | 0:14:24 | |
its proximity to the local primary school | 0:14:24 | 0:14:26 | |
and sporting facilities could make it very appealing | 0:14:26 | 0:14:29 | |
and its single level wooden construction is closer to the | 0:14:29 | 0:14:32 | |
-typical New Zealand house Katrina imagines. -We've got rain. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:36 | |
It is a bit of rain. Just to make you feel at home. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:39 | |
OK. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:43 | |
-Straight into the living room. -It's very open plan, isn't it? -Mm-hm. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:46 | |
-It's quite nice. -It is a nice little room. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:49 | |
Yes... | 0:14:49 | 0:14:51 | |
There's a better kitchen, a better size. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:53 | |
-It's still not as big as maybe you might expect. -No, it's not. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:56 | |
-It's nice, I could live with this. -Yeah, it's a nice window there. | 0:14:56 | 0:14:59 | |
Moving on and Andrew's eye is quickly drawn back outside. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:03 | |
That's fantastic. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:05 | |
You could see yourself out there on many an afternoon | 0:15:05 | 0:15:08 | |
and a morning, chilling out. Covered as well. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:11 | |
-It's a good-sized living room though. -It is, isn't it? -Yeah. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:14 | |
You don't really need it any bigger than that, to be fair. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:16 | |
No, that's like an extension of your living area, so... | 0:15:16 | 0:15:20 | |
-Bringing outside in. -Yeah. -This looks much more promising. -Ooh! | 0:15:20 | 0:15:24 | |
Very nice. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:26 | |
That's good, isn't it? | 0:15:26 | 0:15:28 | |
-Very nice sized bedroom. -It's lovely. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:30 | |
Nice big doors that lead to the outside. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:32 | |
-HANNAH: -Yeah. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:33 | |
You could see yourself just getting out of bed in the morning, | 0:15:33 | 0:15:36 | |
and just out here for a cup of tea or coffee | 0:15:36 | 0:15:39 | |
that the kids would bring you. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:40 | |
No! In your dreams maybe. | 0:15:40 | 0:15:42 | |
Good try, Andrew! | 0:15:42 | 0:15:44 | |
But this house is full of surprises, including this garden hideaway. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:49 | |
-Oh, look at this. -Cool! - Cool! | 0:15:49 | 0:15:52 | |
-Oh! -There's another bed in here. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:55 | |
-- It could be a spare bedroom. -Well, they have it set out for a bed, | 0:15:55 | 0:15:58 | |
but I see this more as the PlayStation, Xbox... | 0:15:58 | 0:16:01 | |
-..den style unit for you guys. -Yeah, that would be good, wouldn't it? | 0:16:03 | 0:16:06 | |
-Yeah. -Peace and quiet for Mum and Dad. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:08 | |
-I like this. It's a nice idea. -Yeah, it is good, isn't it? | 0:16:08 | 0:16:11 | |
You could get a lot of use out of it. | 0:16:11 | 0:16:12 | |
-But then, obviously, if you did have visitors from home. -Yeah. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:15 | |
-You could utilise it as a bedroom. -Absolutely. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:18 | |
There's no room for a pony, | 0:16:18 | 0:16:19 | |
but could this be the house for the Schnells? | 0:16:19 | 0:16:23 | |
How much do you think it'll be? | 0:16:23 | 0:16:25 | |
Well, what do you think it's going to be? | 0:16:25 | 0:16:27 | |
-I don't know. -Well, the last one was £267,000. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:29 | |
What do you think this might be? Higher or lower? | 0:16:29 | 0:16:31 | |
-Higher. -Higher? -273. -273? What about you? | 0:16:31 | 0:16:36 | |
I think it'll be 250. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:39 | |
-Ah. -What do you reckon? | 0:16:39 | 0:16:41 | |
I think I'm going to go along with Hannah. I think around 250. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:44 | |
-OK, 240, just to be different. -Is that your final...? -Final offer. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:49 | |
-Shall I turn the card? -Yeah. -Do you want to turn it, Hannah? | 0:16:49 | 0:16:53 | |
Are you ready? The big finale. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:55 | |
-Oh! -Whoa! -236. | 0:16:57 | 0:17:00 | |
-Yeah, that's good. -Cheaper than the other was. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:02 | |
No, I didn't expect it to be more than the last house. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:05 | |
-I don't think it's for us, this house. -Yeah. -But it's encouraging. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:08 | |
-Yeah. -It's really encouraging. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:10 | |
£14,000 under budget is a good result, | 0:17:10 | 0:17:13 | |
but the house hasn't quite won the family over. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:16 | |
Still in search of the traditional lifestyle plot, | 0:17:16 | 0:17:18 | |
the Schnells' next house is in the rural township of Onewhero. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:22 | |
-Oh, my gosh. That is pretty fantastic. -Is this is it? -Yeah. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:25 | |
45 miles from Auckland could make it a long commute to work, | 0:17:25 | 0:17:29 | |
but it should give them more for their money. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:31 | |
The small town also has a handful of sports clubs where the family | 0:17:31 | 0:17:35 | |
-could join in the local community. -What do you think, Hannah? | 0:17:35 | 0:17:37 | |
This house might have been chosen especially for you. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:40 | |
Yep, there's certainly room for a pony here. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:42 | |
-Oh, it's definitely got the wow factor! -Yes! I would live here! | 0:17:42 | 0:17:46 | |
-It is pretty special. -Oh, my Lord! -That view is amazing. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:50 | |
We'll maybe turn that into vineyards. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:53 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:17:53 | 0:17:55 | |
First impressions are good, | 0:17:55 | 0:17:56 | |
but will the classic Kiwi homestead meet Katrina's expectations? | 0:17:56 | 0:18:00 | |
-Look at that house! -That's just unbelievable. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:03 | |
That's exactly the house that we described. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:05 | |
-Yeah, Mummy, that's your kind of house. -Is it all colonial style? | 0:18:05 | 0:18:08 | |
-Look, there's fruit trees and everything there as well. -Oh! | 0:18:08 | 0:18:11 | |
Could this be just what Andrew needs to convince Katrina of the move? | 0:18:11 | 0:18:14 | |
-Oh, well, it doesn't disappoint inside! Oh, my goodness! -Whoa! | 0:18:14 | 0:18:19 | |
-That's got the wow factor all round. -A wood burner. -Look at the kitchen. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:23 | |
-Open plan... -Mum, that's your kitchen too! | 0:18:23 | 0:18:26 | |
KATRINA GASPS | 0:18:26 | 0:18:28 | |
I suppose, if you were to write down what you wanted... | 0:18:28 | 0:18:31 | |
-Yeah. -This is it. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:33 | |
..you couldn't have written this down. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:35 | |
You just couldn't have written... This is what you want. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:39 | |
-Wow, it really is. What do you think, Josh? -I love it! | 0:18:39 | 0:18:43 | |
This house also has the four bedrooms the family are after, | 0:18:43 | 0:18:46 | |
so that should be another box ticked. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:48 | |
The master bedroom...oh, my goodness! | 0:18:51 | 0:18:53 | |
Yeah. Look at the size of it! | 0:18:53 | 0:18:56 | |
Look how big this thing is! | 0:18:56 | 0:18:58 | |
-Whoa! -It's lovely. -It is. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:03 | |
Like the previous house, there's also a separate annexe, | 0:19:03 | 0:19:06 | |
-an important part of Katrina's wish list. -Well, what do you think? | 0:19:06 | 0:19:10 | |
-It is a bit wow. -I love it. It's amazing. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:13 | |
-You can't get better, you just can't get better than this! -No. It's... | 0:19:13 | 0:19:17 | |
-It's special all right. -What do you think, Josh? -I love it. -You love it? | 0:19:17 | 0:19:22 | |
It looks like the family have found their dream home, | 0:19:22 | 0:19:24 | |
but is it within their £250,000 budget? | 0:19:24 | 0:19:28 | |
-"Can we afford it?", is the question. -It's the burning question. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:31 | |
-I hope so. -And what do you think it's worth? -320. -320. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:34 | |
-I'm guessing 326. -OK. What are you going to...? | 0:19:35 | 0:19:39 | |
I'm going to go in around that too. I think it's definitely over the 300. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:42 | |
Yeah, I don't even want to put a price on it. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:44 | |
It's definitely over 300. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:46 | |
-346! -Oh! | 0:19:49 | 0:19:52 | |
-Pushing it, isn't it? Pushing it! -£346,500. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:55 | |
630,000 New Zealand dollars, Hannah. | 0:19:55 | 0:19:58 | |
I'll do babysitting! | 0:19:58 | 0:20:00 | |
-Hannah, you can be our negotiator! -Oh, my gosh! | 0:20:00 | 0:20:03 | |
Oh, well! | 0:20:05 | 0:20:07 | |
House-hunting has created mixed emotions for the Schnells. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:10 | |
Property one had stunning gardens, | 0:20:10 | 0:20:12 | |
but the house's decor was just too dated. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:15 | |
The second home had a more impressive interior, | 0:20:15 | 0:20:18 | |
but lacked the views and land the family desperately want. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:21 | |
The final property got everyone excited, | 0:20:21 | 0:20:24 | |
but would mean Mum and Dad getting well-paid jobs | 0:20:24 | 0:20:26 | |
to be able to afford it. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:28 | |
So, after a day of experiencing the local housing market, | 0:20:28 | 0:20:32 | |
will the family choose property in the UK or New Zealand? | 0:20:32 | 0:20:35 | |
We've had a brilliant day looking at properties in New Zealand and | 0:20:35 | 0:20:38 | |
based on everything that we've found today, we're going to vote for... | 0:20:38 | 0:20:42 | |
-New Zealand! -New Zealand! - New Zealand! | 0:20:48 | 0:20:49 | |
Undecided. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:51 | |
-What the...? Really? -Oh! -Mummy! | 0:20:51 | 0:20:53 | |
The houses were much more expensive than I thought | 0:20:54 | 0:20:56 | |
-and I don't want to get into another massive 30-year mortgage. -Yeah. | 0:20:56 | 0:21:00 | |
So, until we can actually go and spend a day looking at what | 0:21:00 | 0:21:03 | |
our potential earnings are, I'm a bit unsure whether... | 0:21:03 | 0:21:06 | |
No, that's fair enough. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:07 | |
Thanks to the harsh realities of the property market, | 0:21:12 | 0:21:15 | |
Andrew knows finding the right job for Katrina | 0:21:15 | 0:21:17 | |
and himself is crucial if he's to stand a chance | 0:21:17 | 0:21:20 | |
of seeing his wife flip the card for New Zealand. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:23 | |
Back in the UK, Katrina works as a sales manager | 0:21:24 | 0:21:27 | |
for a satellite installation company, | 0:21:27 | 0:21:29 | |
but is open-minded about what she might do if they move. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:32 | |
Because I've worked in the hospitality industry and now sales, | 0:21:32 | 0:21:36 | |
I have gained quite a lot of different skills | 0:21:36 | 0:21:40 | |
and these skills are transferable to many | 0:21:40 | 0:21:43 | |
different types of employment, | 0:21:43 | 0:21:45 | |
so I think I would welcome the opportunity of speaking to | 0:21:45 | 0:21:48 | |
a recruitment agency and just seeing what's available over there. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:52 | |
Andrew's an account manager in the wine industry | 0:21:53 | 0:21:56 | |
and career aspirations form a large part of his desire to move. | 0:21:56 | 0:22:00 | |
'I'm in a great job and it's a job that I enjoy, at the moment,' | 0:22:00 | 0:22:04 | |
but there's a bit of a ceiling, really, in Northern Ireland, | 0:22:04 | 0:22:07 | |
as to what I can achieve in my industry. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:09 | |
But with New Zealand, growing grapes and producing wine, | 0:22:09 | 0:22:12 | |
there are a lot more opportunities for me to progress in my career | 0:22:12 | 0:22:16 | |
and potentially earn a little extra money. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:18 | |
As part of Andrew and Katrina's trip, we've arranged for them | 0:22:20 | 0:22:23 | |
to check out the local job market. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:25 | |
If I was to look ahead from when we're in Northern Ireland, | 0:22:25 | 0:22:28 | |
today is the one that I probably had most reservations about because | 0:22:28 | 0:22:31 | |
everything falls on what we're worth and what we can expect to be paid. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:35 | |
Andrew has come to one of the country's most iconic wine | 0:22:35 | 0:22:38 | |
producers to meet its owner, Sir George Fistonich. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:41 | |
This is our main bottling plant for New Zealand. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:44 | |
So, all the wine from Marlborough, Otago, Gisborne, | 0:22:46 | 0:22:49 | |
and Hawke's Bay all comes up here. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:52 | |
While Andrew samples the winery, Katrina's gone to meet with | 0:22:52 | 0:22:55 | |
a recruitment agency in Auckland's central business district. | 0:22:55 | 0:22:58 | |
-Hi, Katrina. I'm Julie Cressey, nice to meet you. -Nice to meet you. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:01 | |
Come this way. Let's go and have a conversation. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:04 | |
This chat could give Katrina the inspiration | 0:23:04 | 0:23:06 | |
she needs to follow Andrew's dream. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:08 | |
So, what kind of work are you wanting to do, | 0:23:08 | 0:23:10 | |
-if you come to New Zealand? -I'd be flexible. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:12 | |
The role I'm in at the moment, | 0:23:12 | 0:23:13 | |
essentially started as an administrative role and then | 0:23:13 | 0:23:16 | |
-it developed into sales, so, I see my strengths in both areas, so... -Great. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:21 | |
Would you consider temporary work rather than just permanent work? | 0:23:21 | 0:23:24 | |
I think initially I'd look at temporary work | 0:23:24 | 0:23:26 | |
until I could get my bearings and understand the culture | 0:23:26 | 0:23:28 | |
and the work environment that Auckland offers, and obviously, | 0:23:28 | 0:23:33 | |
if I found a position in a temporary role then maybe it would lead | 0:23:33 | 0:23:35 | |
into a more permanent role with that business, then that would be great. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:39 | |
'Katrina hopes her positive attitude will take her a long way.' | 0:23:39 | 0:23:42 | |
So, you've seen my CV. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:43 | |
Do you think it would be possible for me to get a job in New Zealand, | 0:23:43 | 0:23:46 | |
-do you think? -I think definitely you could. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:48 | |
The nice thing about you, Katrina, is you're prepared to be flexible, | 0:23:48 | 0:23:51 | |
so the fact that you've got the sales experience | 0:23:51 | 0:23:53 | |
and you've got the office management experience | 0:23:53 | 0:23:55 | |
and you don't mind which way you go, and you're prepared to consider both | 0:23:55 | 0:23:58 | |
permanent and temporary work, would mean you've got a lot more | 0:23:58 | 0:24:01 | |
opportunities available in the market here. | 0:24:01 | 0:24:03 | |
This should really help Andrew's sales pitch for New Zealand, | 0:24:03 | 0:24:06 | |
but will his opportunities be as promising? | 0:24:06 | 0:24:08 | |
OK, George, I suppose the big question is...you've seen my CV, | 0:24:08 | 0:24:12 | |
theoretically speaking, would someone with my experience be | 0:24:12 | 0:24:17 | |
employable for a company such as yourself? | 0:24:17 | 0:24:21 | |
Um, I think actually your background in both sales, hospitality | 0:24:21 | 0:24:25 | |
and obviously with a little bit of training, you'd find it | 0:24:25 | 0:24:28 | |
very easy, I think, to fit in and get a job in New Zealand, yeah. | 0:24:28 | 0:24:31 | |
'Andrew's also keen to hear about promotion opportunities.' | 0:24:31 | 0:24:34 | |
We have sales people, um, right from Dunedin at the bottom | 0:24:34 | 0:24:38 | |
of the South Island to the top of the North Island. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:41 | |
So, um, with 25 people, people come and go periodically, | 0:24:41 | 0:24:46 | |
so opportunities open up, yeah. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:48 | |
'This is exactly what he was hoping for. Back in the city | 0:24:48 | 0:24:51 | |
'Katrina's talking money.' | 0:24:51 | 0:24:53 | |
From a sales perspective, it would be dependent | 0:24:53 | 0:24:56 | |
on the size of the organisation and your responsibility, but it would | 0:24:56 | 0:24:59 | |
range potentially from maybe 60,000 right through to 85,000. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:03 | |
Um, and the office management role, | 0:25:03 | 0:25:06 | |
slightly smaller range just purely | 0:25:06 | 0:25:07 | |
because of the amount of roles in that particular area, and you'll be | 0:25:07 | 0:25:10 | |
looking anywhere from again 60,000 probably to 65,000 or 70,000. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:15 | |
Amazing! Katrina could earn over £20,000 more in New Zealand, | 0:25:15 | 0:25:20 | |
but can Andrew gain as much? | 0:25:20 | 0:25:22 | |
What might I expect as far as a salary in New Zealand? | 0:25:22 | 0:25:25 | |
If you're looking at a straight-out territory manager's role, uh... | 0:25:25 | 0:25:30 | |
you'd be around about the... | 0:25:30 | 0:25:32 | |
brackets around about 60,000, plus a company car, | 0:25:32 | 0:25:37 | |
which is usually valued at to 15,000 to 20,000. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:41 | |
You have a wine allowance and then we have a bonus structure | 0:25:41 | 0:25:44 | |
over and above that. | 0:25:44 | 0:25:46 | |
That's a similar wage to back home, so not exactly what Andrew | 0:25:46 | 0:25:49 | |
was hoping for, but there will be opportunities to progress here. | 0:25:49 | 0:25:53 | |
'The couple meet up to share their news.' | 0:25:53 | 0:25:55 | |
Yeah, so we had a good talk, we walked through the winery | 0:25:55 | 0:25:58 | |
and we chatted about a few things. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:00 | |
A very dynamic company and there's a lot of training | 0:26:00 | 0:26:03 | |
and a lot of progression. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:04 | |
Not quite sure whereabouts the money would sit, so that's something | 0:26:04 | 0:26:08 | |
I need to investigate a little bit further, but it starts at 60 | 0:26:08 | 0:26:11 | |
and that's something that would be very desponding. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:13 | |
I just couldn't consider that, um, from where I'm coming from. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:17 | |
It's not what I've been looking for. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:18 | |
Despite great news for Katrina, today's been a let down for Andrew. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:22 | |
So, will they opt of work in New Zealand or the UK? | 0:26:22 | 0:26:25 | |
We've both had a look at employment opportunities in New Zealand | 0:26:25 | 0:26:28 | |
and now we both vote for... | 0:26:28 | 0:26:30 | |
..undecided. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:38 | |
New Zealand. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:40 | |
It's no surprise you've voted for New Zealand after that | 0:26:40 | 0:26:42 | |
-bit of good news. -Yeah, I know. -So, are you coming round? | 0:26:42 | 0:26:45 | |
I'm coming round, yeah, absolutely, | 0:26:45 | 0:26:46 | |
-if I thought I could make that kind of money. -Absolutely. | 0:26:46 | 0:26:49 | |
-That'd be great, wouldn't it? -Absolutely. What about you? | 0:26:49 | 0:26:52 | |
-Undecided? -Yeah. It's a difficult one, isn't it? | 0:26:52 | 0:26:54 | |
After my meeting today, I'm a bit concerned that the pay's not going | 0:26:54 | 0:26:57 | |
to live up to what I expect, so I need to do a little bit more | 0:26:57 | 0:27:00 | |
research and maybe find out a little bit more. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:02 | |
Andrew's always been the driving force behind a move to | 0:27:07 | 0:27:11 | |
New Zealand, but after hearing about her work opportunities, | 0:27:11 | 0:27:14 | |
Katrina could be starting to see some potential in his plans. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:19 | |
So, will an opportunity to sample New Zealand's lifestyle bring | 0:27:19 | 0:27:22 | |
the whole family a step closer to Andrew's dream? | 0:27:22 | 0:27:25 | |
In the UK, Hannah's mad about horse riding and is lucky enough to | 0:27:28 | 0:27:32 | |
have her own pony stabled at her grandparents' house. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:35 | |
Dad's promised her a pony in New Zealand too, | 0:27:37 | 0:27:39 | |
-so today she's trying out a local riding school. -Beautiful! | 0:27:39 | 0:27:43 | |
Nice and straight. Good girl. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:45 | |
She's a lovely horse to ride. She really is. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:47 | |
She's got a lovely feel to her. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:49 | |
Katrina's relieved to see Hannah enjoying herself. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:52 | |
I suppose, one of my concerns about coming over was that | 0:27:52 | 0:27:55 | |
Hannah's expectation of what New Zealand could deliver | 0:27:55 | 0:27:57 | |
might not come to light, | 0:27:57 | 0:27:59 | |
but it's actually more than come to light. | 0:27:59 | 0:28:01 | |
Getting the opportunity to come here today | 0:28:01 | 0:28:03 | |
for her to meet like-minded people, | 0:28:03 | 0:28:05 | |
for her to ride a pony not that far removed from her own pony at home | 0:28:05 | 0:28:09 | |
and in an outdoor arena, even for me, as loathe as I am to admit it, | 0:28:09 | 0:28:13 | |
it's just fantastic. I could see myself here | 0:28:13 | 0:28:15 | |
quite frequently, quite often with her, yeah. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:18 | |
That was amazing! | 0:28:18 | 0:28:20 | |
It feels so good to be on a horse! | 0:28:20 | 0:28:22 | |
While the girls settle into the local equestrian scene, | 0:28:22 | 0:28:25 | |
the boys head off for a round of golf at a course close to | 0:28:25 | 0:28:28 | |
where they're staying. | 0:28:28 | 0:28:29 | |
-This should be good fun. -Yeah. | 0:28:29 | 0:28:32 | |
Josh is good with a hurling stick, but he's never been | 0:28:32 | 0:28:34 | |
golfing before, so the day starts with a quick lesson. | 0:28:34 | 0:28:37 | |
A little bit of a jiggle... I think you're ready to play golf. | 0:28:37 | 0:28:40 | |
Not bad for a beginner. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:45 | |
So, wide...nice grip...wide... | 0:28:46 | 0:28:48 | |
Right through and finish like a champ. | 0:28:48 | 0:28:51 | |
Good boy! Good on you! | 0:28:51 | 0:28:52 | |
Very good, Josh. I think you and Dad are ready to have | 0:28:53 | 0:28:56 | |
-a game on the course. There we go. -Great. -We'll get some clubs. | 0:28:56 | 0:28:59 | |
Fantastic. Thank you for your instructions, that's brilliant. | 0:28:59 | 0:29:02 | |
He did awesome. | 0:29:02 | 0:29:03 | |
Keen to get out and at it, the boys head onto the course. | 0:29:03 | 0:29:07 | |
I've played football, hurling and Gaelic, | 0:29:07 | 0:29:09 | |
but I haven't played golf before. | 0:29:09 | 0:29:11 | |
-So, it's good fun. -It's good. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:14 | |
At the riding stables, Hannah's lesson is over | 0:29:14 | 0:29:17 | |
and she's found a friend in the instructor's daughter, Amanda. | 0:29:17 | 0:29:20 | |
Oh, today's lesson was so much fun. I loved it. | 0:29:20 | 0:29:23 | |
-It was really good cos you ride him really nicely. -Aww, thank you. | 0:29:23 | 0:29:27 | |
Has today been enough to put Hannah firmly on her dad's side? | 0:29:27 | 0:29:31 | |
Oh, it's gorgeous! And if we live, Mummy, in New Zealand, | 0:29:31 | 0:29:34 | |
I want to live somewhere near here | 0:29:34 | 0:29:35 | |
and then we're going to go riding together | 0:29:35 | 0:29:37 | |
and we were talking about it and it all sounds so fun. | 0:29:37 | 0:29:40 | |
-'The pony camps and all! -You've made a friend there with Amanda. -I know. | 0:29:40 | 0:29:44 | |
'She's lovely, so she is.' | 0:29:44 | 0:29:45 | |
But are Josh and Andrew having as much fun on the golf course? | 0:29:45 | 0:29:49 | |
Whenever you hit it, I'll lift it out. | 0:29:49 | 0:29:51 | |
OK, that looks pretty professional. | 0:29:51 | 0:29:53 | |
Oops! | 0:29:56 | 0:29:57 | |
Stop! | 0:29:58 | 0:30:00 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:30:00 | 0:30:02 | |
If I win it, you buy the ice cream. | 0:30:03 | 0:30:05 | |
If I win it, you get the ice cream. | 0:30:06 | 0:30:09 | |
Oh, ho, ho! | 0:30:09 | 0:30:11 | |
Yeah, I think I might be getting ice cream! | 0:30:13 | 0:30:16 | |
-Well done. -Yeah, well done. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:18 | |
The family reunite in the park to reflect on their week so far | 0:30:18 | 0:30:22 | |
and the decision ahead. | 0:30:22 | 0:30:23 | |
'The weather had been absolutely fantastic | 0:30:23 | 0:30:25 | |
'and that's a big part of the reason that' | 0:30:25 | 0:30:28 | |
I'm kind of trying to push the move, to push the family for the move. | 0:30:28 | 0:30:31 | |
I think the lifestyle with the weather, it's just... | 0:30:31 | 0:30:33 | |
It's certainly a lot more outdoor living, isn't it? | 0:30:33 | 0:30:36 | |
I can't disagree with that. No, it's absolutely brilliant. | 0:30:36 | 0:30:38 | |
But will this be the turning point Andrew's hoping for? | 0:30:38 | 0:30:41 | |
As the family cast their vote, | 0:30:41 | 0:30:43 | |
will they choose lifestyle in New Zealand or the UK? | 0:30:43 | 0:30:46 | |
Based on the New Zealand lifestyle that we've seen today, | 0:30:46 | 0:30:49 | |
we vote for... | 0:30:49 | 0:30:50 | |
ALL: New Zealand! | 0:30:55 | 0:30:58 | |
Full house! Yay! Woo! | 0:30:58 | 0:30:59 | |
Happy days. That's a first. | 0:30:59 | 0:31:01 | |
Good. I knew you were going to. | 0:31:01 | 0:31:03 | |
You had such a fantastic day today on the horse. | 0:31:03 | 0:31:05 | |
-Yes, it was great fun. -Good, so that's you convinced. | 0:31:05 | 0:31:09 | |
-JOSH: -Well, I like golf now. | 0:31:09 | 0:31:12 | |
-What about you? -No, I really enjoyed today. -Oh, great. -I think it's great. | 0:31:12 | 0:31:15 | |
You can't deny that it's a fantastic country with the sunshine | 0:31:15 | 0:31:18 | |
and...no, it's brilliant, yeah. | 0:31:18 | 0:31:20 | |
With everyone falling for the outdoor lifestyle, | 0:31:25 | 0:31:28 | |
it looks like Andrew's dream is a step closer to reality, | 0:31:28 | 0:31:32 | |
but the family still need to make the finances work. | 0:31:32 | 0:31:35 | |
They believe their property in the UK is worth £230,000 | 0:31:35 | 0:31:39 | |
and need every penny if they're to make the move. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:43 | |
We've sent round two estate agents to give professional valuations. | 0:31:43 | 0:31:46 | |
Now we're through into the main reception room of the house, | 0:31:46 | 0:31:49 | |
the main lounge. | 0:31:49 | 0:31:51 | |
Very, very bright aspect to this room with the double front windows and | 0:31:51 | 0:31:55 | |
the double doorway leading through into the kitchen area of the house. | 0:31:55 | 0:31:59 | |
Very nice Shaker style kitchen, plenty of space | 0:31:59 | 0:32:02 | |
and a nice island in the middle of it. | 0:32:02 | 0:32:04 | |
Now we're through into the games room, play room of the house. | 0:32:04 | 0:32:07 | |
Again with all the sporting trophies that this family has obtained | 0:32:07 | 0:32:11 | |
here with the equestrian trophies and someone's got a very, | 0:32:11 | 0:32:15 | |
very good taste in rugby with the New Zealand flag here, | 0:32:15 | 0:32:17 | |
but a very, very good sized room. | 0:32:17 | 0:32:20 | |
Now...master bedroom, | 0:32:21 | 0:32:23 | |
nice sized bedroom. | 0:32:23 | 0:32:25 | |
-It doesn't look as big on camera, does it? -No. -Cos they're big rooms. | 0:32:25 | 0:32:28 | |
A nice house in a good development here, now, we would, | 0:32:29 | 0:32:33 | |
if we were selling this here, we would be putting it | 0:32:33 | 0:32:36 | |
on the market somewhere offers over 170, hoping maybe to get 175. | 0:32:36 | 0:32:40 | |
I would be quite happy to market this property in this very desirable area | 0:32:40 | 0:32:44 | |
of Cushendall at offers around | 0:32:44 | 0:32:46 | |
170 to 175, with a quick sale asking price of 160. | 0:32:46 | 0:32:51 | |
-Oh, my goodness. -That's not good. -We wouldn't make a penny on that. | 0:32:51 | 0:32:55 | |
-No, no. -Not one bean would we make on that house. | 0:32:55 | 0:32:59 | |
With their house valued at around £50,000 less | 0:32:59 | 0:33:02 | |
than they were expecting, Andrew's plans could be heading for a crash. | 0:33:02 | 0:33:06 | |
While the children play outside, | 0:33:06 | 0:33:08 | |
the couple sit down to figure out | 0:33:08 | 0:33:10 | |
how much living in New Zealand would cost, | 0:33:10 | 0:33:12 | |
starting with the weekly food shop. | 0:33:12 | 0:33:14 | |
So, a whole chicken in New Zealand is £7.27... | 0:33:14 | 0:33:17 | |
-Wow. -..as opposed to £5.07 at home. | 0:33:18 | 0:33:21 | |
That's a big difference, isn't it? | 0:33:22 | 0:33:24 | |
There's a lot that's going the other way as well. | 0:33:24 | 0:33:26 | |
So, I mean, there's a lot... It's kind of 50/50. | 0:33:26 | 0:33:29 | |
Fingers crossed things will balance out when it comes to the total. | 0:33:29 | 0:33:32 | |
And this is the interesting part. | 0:33:32 | 0:33:34 | |
-The total UK shop was £165.21. -Yeah. | 0:33:34 | 0:33:38 | |
And the New Zealand shop was £175.74. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:41 | |
So, £10's difference. I'm surprised about that. | 0:33:41 | 0:33:44 | |
I thought New Zealand would be more expensive. | 0:33:44 | 0:33:46 | |
I thought it would be much more expensive. | 0:33:46 | 0:33:48 | |
I thought that was really going to blow the budget that one, | 0:33:48 | 0:33:51 | |
-so that's interesting and kind of encouraging, really. -Yeah. | 0:33:51 | 0:33:54 | |
Every penny counts. | 0:33:54 | 0:33:55 | |
The couple are basing their figures on the second property they viewed. | 0:33:55 | 0:33:59 | |
So, will Katrina's potential higher earnings be enough to cancel | 0:33:59 | 0:34:02 | |
out any loss on their house in the UK? | 0:34:02 | 0:34:05 | |
On the outgoings alone, we're £129.04 better off per month. | 0:34:05 | 0:34:10 | |
Brilliant, but then we need to consider how much | 0:34:10 | 0:34:12 | |
better off we are with the... | 0:34:12 | 0:34:14 | |
With the income? OK, so let's add the income on that one. | 0:34:14 | 0:34:17 | |
£1,635... | 0:34:17 | 0:34:20 | |
..plus... | 0:34:21 | 0:34:22 | |
-Oh, my gosh. -Woo-hoo! | 0:34:24 | 0:34:27 | |
So, £1,764.04 better off. | 0:34:27 | 0:34:31 | |
-My gosh. Wow. -I know! Brilliant. | 0:34:31 | 0:34:34 | |
Unbelievable, isn't it? | 0:34:34 | 0:34:36 | |
-Fantastic. -I mean, you get a trip home. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:38 | |
-You know, that was a big thing for you was to get a trip home. -Yeah. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:42 | |
Andrew couldn't have wished for a better result, | 0:34:42 | 0:34:44 | |
so with the sums adding up, how will Katrina vote now? | 0:34:44 | 0:34:48 | |
Based on what we've found out today, we vote for... | 0:34:48 | 0:34:51 | |
BOTH: New Zealand! | 0:35:01 | 0:35:03 | |
Yay! | 0:35:03 | 0:35:05 | |
That was a bit of a no-brainer, really. | 0:35:05 | 0:35:07 | |
It was quite an easy vote, wasn't it? | 0:35:07 | 0:35:09 | |
That was amazing what we found out there. | 0:35:09 | 0:35:11 | |
Certainly, disappointing on the value of the house. | 0:35:11 | 0:35:13 | |
-Yeah, but we're almost a whole salary better off. -Yeah. -Yeah, so... -Great. | 0:35:13 | 0:35:17 | |
Having lived in Northern Ireland for the last 18 years, | 0:35:23 | 0:35:26 | |
Andrew would love the chance to spend more time | 0:35:26 | 0:35:29 | |
with his extended family. | 0:35:29 | 0:35:30 | |
Tonight, they're enjoying a rare opportunity to pop round | 0:35:32 | 0:35:36 | |
to his brother's house for a barbecue. | 0:35:36 | 0:35:38 | |
-You put that on there, you walk away. -That's it. That's it done. | 0:35:38 | 0:35:42 | |
That's my kind of barbecue. | 0:35:43 | 0:35:45 | |
If they move, Andrew's family could potentially be | 0:35:45 | 0:35:48 | |
living on their doorstep, | 0:35:48 | 0:35:49 | |
but will knowing they don't have to make friends from scratch | 0:35:49 | 0:35:52 | |
make things any easier for Katrina and the children? | 0:35:52 | 0:35:55 | |
The kids have had an absolute great time. | 0:35:55 | 0:35:57 | |
Josh, I knew he was going to have a great time anyway. | 0:35:57 | 0:35:59 | |
He wanted to come over from pretty much | 0:35:59 | 0:36:01 | |
when we went home to the island three years ago. | 0:36:01 | 0:36:05 | |
Katrina took a little bit of convincing. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:07 | |
Hannah has obviously taken a little bit of convincing as well because | 0:36:07 | 0:36:10 | |
she's making a big sacrifice in leaving her horse or pony back home. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:14 | |
Um, they're both going to miss their grandparents | 0:36:14 | 0:36:16 | |
and that's going to be the tough thing. | 0:36:16 | 0:36:18 | |
Katrina and Andrew's sister-in-law are enjoying catching up. | 0:36:18 | 0:36:22 | |
It's been three years since we've seen you all and | 0:36:22 | 0:36:24 | |
they all got on like a house on fire last time | 0:36:24 | 0:36:27 | |
and they're exactly the same... | 0:36:27 | 0:36:28 | |
-They picked up where they left off. -I think so, yeah. | 0:36:28 | 0:36:31 | |
-Good old Skype and the phone. -Yeah, exactly. | 0:36:31 | 0:36:33 | |
Yeah, well, Josh, his only condition is, if we move over, | 0:36:33 | 0:36:36 | |
can we be close to Tyler and Kaylin. | 0:36:36 | 0:36:38 | |
Tonight's just another glimpse of what life could be like | 0:36:38 | 0:36:41 | |
if the Schnells do move to New Zealand | 0:36:41 | 0:36:43 | |
and Andrew's desperate to grasp it with both hands. | 0:36:43 | 0:36:46 | |
-Cheers! -Cheers! -Absolutely, yeah. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:49 | |
-Adventures down under! -Absolutely. | 0:36:49 | 0:36:51 | |
This is living, isn't it? This is Kiwi living, Katrina. | 0:36:53 | 0:36:56 | |
-Could you get used to this, do you think? -I think so, yes! | 0:36:56 | 0:37:00 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:37:00 | 0:37:01 | |
Andrew's attempts at selling his homeland seem to be paying off, | 0:37:07 | 0:37:10 | |
but while moving would mean more time with his family, it would also | 0:37:10 | 0:37:14 | |
mean leaving Katrina's behind, and that's been a big concern for her. | 0:37:14 | 0:37:19 | |
The Schnells have decided to watch | 0:37:19 | 0:37:21 | |
messages from friends and family together. | 0:37:21 | 0:37:23 | |
It's a reminder of what they'd have to give up in the UK. | 0:37:23 | 0:37:26 | |
-Hi! -Hello, everybody! How are you? -Hi, Katrina! Andrew! | 0:37:26 | 0:37:30 | |
Hi, Katrina and Andrew and kids. | 0:37:30 | 0:37:32 | |
Andrew, in the summertime, has been known to give us a little taste | 0:37:32 | 0:37:36 | |
of New Zealand himself, cos he can cook up | 0:37:36 | 0:37:39 | |
quite a mean Kiwi barbecue... | 0:37:39 | 0:37:42 | |
in spite of the Northern Irish weather. | 0:37:42 | 0:37:44 | |
We have a family of girls and one son. | 0:37:44 | 0:37:48 | |
So, it was lovely from suddenly having a youngest son to | 0:37:48 | 0:37:51 | |
having an oldest son | 0:37:51 | 0:37:52 | |
for Katrina's siblings all to look up to, and to Hugh and I | 0:37:52 | 0:37:57 | |
to have an extra son in the family was just lovely. | 0:37:57 | 0:38:01 | |
I just love Katrina. | 0:38:01 | 0:38:03 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:38:03 | 0:38:05 | |
-And she cooks lovely dinners. -She cooks the best dinners! | 0:38:05 | 0:38:08 | |
She cooks the best Sunday dinner, yes. | 0:38:08 | 0:38:10 | |
The best dinners ever, yeah! | 0:38:10 | 0:38:11 | |
I've been friends with her all my life. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:14 | |
Um, she's... | 0:38:14 | 0:38:15 | |
..probably been like a sister growing up. | 0:38:16 | 0:38:20 | |
Hannah and Josh are very, very close to us. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:22 | |
They're both very, very good children and, | 0:38:22 | 0:38:25 | |
wherever they are in the world, it doesn't matter, | 0:38:25 | 0:38:29 | |
I'll always love them whether they're here or in New Zealand, | 0:38:29 | 0:38:31 | |
they'll never be out of my heart. They'll always be there. | 0:38:31 | 0:38:35 | |
Words wouldn't be able to describe how much I would miss her. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:39 | |
-Aww. -She's... | 0:38:39 | 0:38:42 | |
been a big part of my life. | 0:38:42 | 0:38:44 | |
We love you all very, very much and we will so miss you. | 0:38:44 | 0:38:48 | |
-We'll miss you. -And I hope you know that. | 0:38:48 | 0:38:51 | |
Mum and Dad will be grand, Katrina, as well. | 0:38:51 | 0:38:54 | |
It'll be really tough for them to see you go, | 0:38:54 | 0:38:57 | |
especially with Hannah and Josh | 0:38:57 | 0:38:59 | |
and they'll miss Andrew too. Um... | 0:38:59 | 0:39:01 | |
..but they'll be OK. | 0:39:02 | 0:39:04 | |
I love you all dearly. | 0:39:04 | 0:39:06 | |
And there'll always be a part of me with you, no matter where you are. | 0:39:06 | 0:39:10 | |
And... | 0:39:10 | 0:39:11 | |
I'll back you whatever you want to do. | 0:39:11 | 0:39:13 | |
And whatever decision you make, | 0:39:13 | 0:39:15 | |
we will back you and we will always, | 0:39:15 | 0:39:17 | |
always love you no matter where in the world you are, | 0:39:17 | 0:39:20 | |
there's a part of you here in my heart | 0:39:20 | 0:39:22 | |
and there's a part of me, I hope, in all of your hearts. | 0:39:22 | 0:39:25 | |
She got me in the end, right there! I was holding it together. | 0:39:35 | 0:39:39 | |
Nice words. Really nice words. | 0:39:39 | 0:39:41 | |
I know, I know and there was no surprises, but it still got me. | 0:39:41 | 0:39:44 | |
You missed a spot. | 0:39:44 | 0:39:46 | |
-You know that you've got their full support. -Yeah. | 0:39:47 | 0:39:50 | |
And we know that they don't really want us to leave, | 0:39:50 | 0:39:52 | |
but, you know, if we believe this is the right move for us | 0:39:52 | 0:39:56 | |
as a family and the right thing, | 0:39:56 | 0:39:58 | |
particularly for the future of these two, and if they've got maybe | 0:39:58 | 0:40:01 | |
more opportunities out here, they will support us in that move. | 0:40:01 | 0:40:04 | |
The messages from back home were upsetting, | 0:40:07 | 0:40:10 | |
but for Katrina, hearing everyone will be OK if they move | 0:40:10 | 0:40:14 | |
could be the final push she needs to commit to a new life in New Zealand. | 0:40:14 | 0:40:19 | |
When they arrived a week ago, | 0:40:22 | 0:40:23 | |
Andrew was on a mission to convince his wife and daughter | 0:40:23 | 0:40:26 | |
they could have a better quality of life in his native country. | 0:40:26 | 0:40:30 | |
'You know, I don't want to come here with an unhappy family, because that | 0:40:30 | 0:40:33 | |
'is pointless, you know, so there's no point doing that.' | 0:40:33 | 0:40:36 | |
We've got to be happy together as a family and... | 0:40:36 | 0:40:38 | |
You know? And to see Katrina and the two kids smiling and happy | 0:40:38 | 0:40:42 | |
and just enjoying ourselves as a family is, well, | 0:40:42 | 0:40:44 | |
that's the ambition, you know, that's what I want. | 0:40:44 | 0:40:48 | |
But after three years of discussion, | 0:40:48 | 0:40:50 | |
he knows what happens next will be final. | 0:40:50 | 0:40:53 | |
I always said from the outset that, whatever happens in this week, | 0:40:53 | 0:40:57 | |
if we decide to move to New Zealand or | 0:40:57 | 0:40:59 | |
if we decide to stay in Northern Ireland, it was really going to have | 0:40:59 | 0:41:02 | |
to put the decision in the box and, you know, put that box well away. | 0:41:02 | 0:41:06 | |
Josh has always been on his dad's side | 0:41:06 | 0:41:08 | |
and can definitely see the attraction of moving. | 0:41:08 | 0:41:11 | |
It's really good. It's like Ireland except way warmer. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:14 | |
But has the week done enough to bring Katrina | 0:41:14 | 0:41:16 | |
and Hannah round to the boys' way of thinking? | 0:41:16 | 0:41:19 | |
I don't really know what kind of expectation I had. | 0:41:19 | 0:41:21 | |
Part of me really wanted it to work | 0:41:21 | 0:41:23 | |
because I didn't want Andrew to be disappointed, | 0:41:23 | 0:41:25 | |
and the other part of me felt guilty that if it did work it would | 0:41:25 | 0:41:28 | |
mean that I would have to say goodbye to family and friends back home. | 0:41:28 | 0:41:33 | |
I think it's been a big adventure and it's been wonderful to | 0:41:33 | 0:41:36 | |
experience what life's like in New Zealand. | 0:41:36 | 0:41:38 | |
So, will Andrew achieve his dream? | 0:41:38 | 0:41:41 | |
Time to find out as the family finally decide | 0:41:41 | 0:41:44 | |
whether to move to the other side of the world or stay in the UK. | 0:41:44 | 0:41:48 | |
Based on our week in New Zealand, we are going to vote for... | 0:41:49 | 0:41:52 | |
ALL: New Zealand! | 0:42:01 | 0:42:02 | |
Woo-hoo! Full house! Yes! | 0:42:03 | 0:42:05 | |
I think we're moving! | 0:42:07 | 0:42:09 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:42:09 | 0:42:10 | |
-Oh, well, that's fantastic. -Yeah. -We're on the same page. | 0:42:10 | 0:42:13 | |
What was the big thing that made you change your mind from being "uhhh?" | 0:42:13 | 0:42:17 | |
-Sunshine. -Sunshine? -Sunshine! | 0:42:17 | 0:42:19 | |
Sunshine and just bright colours and everything, and then going onto | 0:42:19 | 0:42:24 | |
Facebook and seeing everybody still wearing 300 layers and digging out of snow, you know. | 0:42:24 | 0:42:28 | |
You won't change your mind when we go back? | 0:42:28 | 0:42:31 | |
I'll probably shake my resolve a few times and I'll question myself, | 0:42:31 | 0:42:34 | |
but, no, ultimately, I'm happy with the decision. | 0:42:34 | 0:42:36 | |
What about you, Hannah, cos you were not so sure, | 0:42:38 | 0:42:40 | |
having to leave your own pony and Granny and Papa? | 0:42:40 | 0:42:43 | |
That horse riding in the week just changed my mind about everything. | 0:42:43 | 0:42:46 | |
Fantastic. | 0:42:46 | 0:42:47 | |
A full deck of cards for New Zealand means Andrew's job is finally done. | 0:42:59 | 0:43:05 | |
After years of trying, | 0:43:05 | 0:43:06 | |
he's managed to convince his family their future lies in his homeland. | 0:43:06 | 0:43:11 | |
We wish them all the very best for their new life down under. | 0:43:11 | 0:43:15 |