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For everyone, there's a taste of food, | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
or a smell of cooking that zooms you right back to childhood. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:07 | |
It's just like my mum's cake! | 0:00:07 | 0:00:09 | |
'I'm Brian Turner...' | 0:00:09 | 0:00:11 | |
It reminds me of someone I used to know at school. | 0:00:11 | 0:00:14 | |
'..and I'm going to stir up the food memories | 0:00:14 | 0:00:16 | |
'of some much-loved celebrities...' | 0:00:16 | 0:00:17 | |
Ohh, look at that. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:20 | |
'..going back to their early years before they were famous...' | 0:00:20 | 0:00:24 | |
Oh, my gosh. | 0:00:24 | 0:00:25 | |
'..with recollections of Sunday roasts and school dinners...' | 0:00:25 | 0:00:28 | |
It's time for something to eat. Brilliant. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:30 | |
'..and celebrating food their home regions are proud of.' | 0:00:30 | 0:00:33 | |
BRIAN LAUGHS | 0:00:33 | 0:00:34 | |
Which way would you like to go? Er, this way. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:37 | |
I'll recreate a nostalgic family favourite... | 0:00:37 | 0:00:42 | |
..and a tribute dish that puts my guest's life on a plate! | 0:00:42 | 0:00:53 | |
There are bittersweet memories of school... | 0:00:53 | 0:00:56 | |
I came here when I was just over six years old. | 0:00:56 | 0:00:59 | |
A little shiver went up my spine going up the drive just now. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:02 | |
..good times remembered with his dad... | 0:01:02 | 0:01:04 | |
He'd be there with a saw and hammer and I loved doing it with him, | 0:01:04 | 0:01:07 | |
so it was, sort of, a bonding thing. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:08 | |
..and dishes that I'll be creating... | 0:01:08 | 0:01:11 | |
And it comes from the Suffolk coast. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:13 | |
..to take him straight back to childhood in a mouthful. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:17 | |
Just like your mum did? Yeah. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:18 | |
That's how it was meant to be, yeah. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:20 | |
Newmarket - | 0:01:25 | 0:01:27 | |
that busy little town on the Suffolk border, | 0:01:27 | 0:01:29 | |
known throughout the world as the metropolis of racing. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:32 | |
Our first stop is a racehorse stables in Newmarket, | 0:01:34 | 0:01:38 | |
because, like me, our Nigel is a bit partial to the horses. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:42 | |
Friendly-looking beast. He's just having a smell here of me. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:46 | |
It was in the 1950s, when Nigel's dad, Michael, | 0:01:47 | 0:01:52 | |
decided to move his young family out of London. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:54 | |
Michael was drawn to this area of Suffolk through his love | 0:01:56 | 0:02:03 | |
My first memories as a child was being in Newmarket | 0:02:03 | 0:02:08 | |
and going to Newmarket races, aged, sort of, five or six. Really? | 0:02:08 | 0:02:11 | |
I was dragged there, but I didn't know where I was going | 0:02:11 | 0:02:14 | |
and I just LOVE the atmosphere and I love the horses, | 0:02:14 | 0:02:25 | |
You could put a shilling on in those days, and I would win. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:32 | |
My father grew all our vegetables, which was fantastic. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:34 | |
Right, well, that's a good thing. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:35 | |
Yeah, which was a very good thing, | 0:02:35 | 0:02:37 | |
and also, there was a great butcher in Newmarket called Mr Musk, | 0:02:37 | 0:02:40 | |
he was fantastic. Right. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:46 | |
Oh, look at these gorgeous things. Yeah, they look wonderful. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:50 | |
Morning. Morning. Morning. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:52 | |
But they are wonderful creatures. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:54 | |
The line and the form of them is just... | 0:02:54 | 0:02:59 | |
I do ride, and my wife, who can really ride, | 0:02:59 | 0:03:05 | |
I said, "Yeah! Look at..." | 0:03:05 | 0:03:06 | |
and I made a movie in Australia where I ride all the time. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:16 | |
We're taking Nigel on a trip down memory lane, | 0:03:16 | 0:03:20 | |
as I gather ideas from his childhood and home life, | 0:03:20 | 0:03:23 | |
together with inspiration from this part of Britain, | 0:03:23 | 0:03:26 | |
to create a special dish that pays tribute to him. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:29 | |
I'm a big fan of Nigel's work in theatre, film and TV. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:35 | |
Recently, he thrilled several female cast members of Coronation Street, | 0:03:35 | 0:03:40 | |
playing dodgy rascal Lewis Archer. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:43 | |
But his reputation was built on films like Chariots Of Fire | 0:03:43 | 0:03:47 | |
and A Passage To India, made in the early 1980s. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:51 | |
And TV stardom wasn't far behind, with the sitcom Don't Wait Up. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:55 | |
Electricity bill, telephone bill | 0:03:55 | 0:03:58 | |
and a little billy-do from Harrods. LAUGHTER | 0:03:58 | 0:04:01 | |
Newmarket has been the home of British horse racing for 350 years. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:08 | |
Here, horses rule. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:13 | |
Newmarket doesn't have many claims to culinary fame, | 0:04:18 | 0:04:21 | |
but it is proud of its sausages, | 0:04:21 | 0:04:23 | |
and at its famous racecourse, | 0:04:23 | 0:04:25 | |
they're a great favourite with the punters, including Nigel. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:28 | |
Why are Newmarket sausages world-famous? | 0:04:29 | 0:04:32 | |
Obviously, the quality is the main reason. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:35 | |
The longevity, the association with the area. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:39 | |
We use whole carcass meat, so that means primal cuts, so loins... | 0:04:39 | 0:04:42 | |
As well as. ..as well as all the other cuts, as well as shoulder and belly. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:46 | |
So, it's hand-boned, as well, | 0:04:46 | 0:04:48 | |
so we have butchers that hand-bone the carcasses. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:50 | |
Secret seasoning? | 0:04:50 | 0:04:51 | |
The seasoning, exactly. I mean, again, that is the sort of secret, | 0:04:51 | 0:04:54 | |
most secret part of the recipe, | 0:04:54 | 0:04:55 | |
it's handed down from my great-grandfather. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:58 | |
Give us one clue, what we should be looking in for flavour? | 0:04:58 | 0:05:02 | |
Is it quite herby, is it...? | 0:05:02 | 0:05:04 | |
The character of the Newmarket sausage is quite spicy, | 0:05:04 | 0:05:08 | |
we do use pepper. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:10 | |
I love white pepper, too. Yeah, yeah. I bet they use white pepper. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:13 | |
Do we normally eat these in a bun, in a cake, | 0:05:13 | 0:05:16 | |
in bread, or do you eat them just as they are? | 0:05:16 | 0:05:19 | |
We serve these in a torpedo, soft bread torpedo. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:22 | |
And it is soft bread? Yes. Yeah. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:24 | |
There you are, sir. Thank you. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:26 | |
I just can't believe how delicious it is. Got the pepper? | 0:05:26 | 0:05:29 | |
Yeah, yeah. Oh, absolutely. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:30 | |
We always used to call these, in the old days, bangers, | 0:05:30 | 0:05:33 | |
and it is interesting to see that these aren't bangers, actually. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
They haven't split. They haven't split at all. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:38 | |
Well, they can do, but it depends how you cook them. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:40 | |
The reason they were called bangers in the war years was | 0:05:40 | 0:05:42 | |
because they put a lot more water in and the water would explode. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:45 | |
I used to call them snarlers. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:47 | |
Well, I normally find - I come from Yorkshire - | 0:05:47 | 0:05:49 | |
we used to call them sausages. Really? | 0:05:49 | 0:05:51 | |
So, on race day, how many of these do you sell? | 0:05:51 | 0:05:53 | |
We'll do 900 meals. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:55 | |
For me, a bit of butter on there as it starts to melt | 0:05:55 | 0:05:57 | |
and drip down, straight on your shirt. | 0:05:57 | 0:05:59 | |
Oh, you've got a bit on your shirt. Have I? No. It's all right. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:02 | |
What a tasty bite of great British food | 0:06:03 | 0:06:06 | |
to make a day at the races complete. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:07 | |
This place is full of potent memories for Nigel, | 0:06:11 | 0:06:14 | |
and standing on the edge of the July course | 0:06:14 | 0:06:17 | |
is bringing them all tumbling back. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:19 | |
I stood here as a six-year-old, right there probably, watching. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:24 | |
And when the horses come down there, | 0:06:24 | 0:06:26 | |
the ground here starts to tremble, | 0:06:26 | 0:06:28 | |
because of the, sort of, vibrations from the horses running | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
and it's the most exciting thing in the world. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
My brother and I used to hang around when everyone had left | 0:06:35 | 0:06:38 | |
and we would collect all the thrown tote tickets, | 0:06:38 | 0:06:42 | |
the ones people had thrown away in the bins all over | 0:06:42 | 0:06:44 | |
and on the ground, and we would collect as many... | 0:06:44 | 0:06:46 | |
My parents were so embarrassed, they used to leave. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:49 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:06:49 | 0:06:50 | |
But we'd collect sackloads of these tickets. Really? | 0:06:50 | 0:06:53 | |
And then, we'd take them home and then, we'd sift through them | 0:06:53 | 0:06:56 | |
with all the winners, you know, marked out | 0:06:56 | 0:06:58 | |
and we'd always find half a dozen winning tickets. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:01 | |
Really?! Yeah, and we'd collect about a fiver, six quid, | 0:07:01 | 0:07:04 | |
in those days, that's like 100 quid now. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:06 | |
And that would be our betting pool. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:08 | |
Then, of course, we'd lose it the next day, | 0:07:08 | 0:07:09 | |
but then, we'd do the same thing and every single time we did it, | 0:07:09 | 0:07:13 | |
we won, we got money. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:14 | |
Was your mum a good cook? Yes. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:17 | |
We used to have cottage pie... | 0:07:17 | 0:07:19 | |
No hang on, shepherd's pie. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:20 | |
Shepherd's pie is with lamb, cottage pie is with beef. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:23 | |
All right. So we had both actually, she put lamb and beef in it. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:27 | |
Did she use cooked meat to do it with? Yes, cooked meat. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:29 | |
Yes, so from a joint? We had a mincer. Oh, yeah, I remember those. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:32 | |
And we'd screw them to the end of the table and you'd go like that. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:35 | |
Just dropped in the little hole. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:37 | |
And I used to like doing that, so that's how I started learning. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:39 | |
How often do you eat out? | 0:07:39 | 0:07:40 | |
Once a fortnight, maybe. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:43 | |
Oh, that's not too bad, then. No, my wife's a very good cook, | 0:07:43 | 0:07:45 | |
so it would be a shame to miss that. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:47 | |
What does she... | 0:07:47 | 0:07:48 | |
It's just you and me here, nobody else will know. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:50 | |
What does she cook that you really love? | 0:07:50 | 0:07:53 | |
She does a very good roast chicken. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:54 | |
I know it sounds simple, but it's very... To get it so good... | 0:07:54 | 0:07:57 | |
She does it in a terracotta dish and vegetables around... | 0:07:57 | 0:08:00 | |
Oh, it's fantastic. She does a wonderful pasta, crab pasta. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:03 | |
I'll give you my telephone number, cos I can come and eat that. Yeah. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:06 | |
So, what is it about Suffolk that you, | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
that you miss, that you loved? | 0:08:09 | 0:08:12 | |
Coming back here last night, it was just... | 0:08:12 | 0:08:15 | |
I just nearly burst into tears. I was... It was so beautiful. | 0:08:15 | 0:08:19 | |
Yes. The smell of it here. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:21 | |
I know people say it is very flat, which I suppose it is, | 0:08:21 | 0:08:24 | |
but it means you have a lot of sky, and the people are wonderful here. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:28 | |
I can see why Nigel finds Suffolk so captivating. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:35 | |
It's just knockout scenery! | 0:08:35 | 0:08:38 | |
And the flatness of this wonderful landscape | 0:08:38 | 0:08:40 | |
has made it perfect for agriculture. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:43 | |
Yes, a farmer's country. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:45 | |
Rich and generous in return for man's endeavours. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:49 | |
And endeavour he must. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:51 | |
Wheat has been grown here for centuries | 0:08:53 | 0:08:55 | |
and to grind it into flour, | 0:08:55 | 0:08:57 | |
there were once hundreds of mills, driven by wind or water. | 0:08:57 | 0:09:01 | |
On a good day, | 0:09:03 | 0:09:04 | |
the miller's wife would produce a batch of scrummy Suffolk lardy cake. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:08 | |
I'm about to discover how to make it | 0:09:09 | 0:09:12 | |
in just about the most traditional way possible, | 0:09:12 | 0:09:15 | |
with the help of David Eddershaw. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:16 | |
He's curator of this watermill in Pakenham. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:20 | |
Hi, Brian. David, how nice to meet you. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:24 | |
And it's a pleasure to meet you. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:26 | |
It is just a calming, idyllic place. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:30 | |
Isn't it wonderful? It is, it is. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:32 | |
But it was once a very busy place and, I mean, the whole of Suffolk | 0:09:32 | 0:09:36 | |
was full of windmills and watermills. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:39 | |
Windmills like that one. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:41 | |
Pakenham is said to be the only village in England | 0:09:41 | 0:09:44 | |
with, still, a working watermill and a windmill in the same village. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:48 | |
But that would have been quite common a long time ago. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:50 | |
And where does the water come for this watermill? | 0:09:50 | 0:09:52 | |
Where does it come from? | 0:09:52 | 0:09:54 | |
All that water is coming from underground springs | 0:09:54 | 0:09:56 | |
about a mile and a half away. | 0:09:56 | 0:09:58 | |
That's why there has been a mill here for about 1,000 years. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:03 | |
This building dates back to the 1780s, | 0:10:08 | 0:10:11 | |
though much of the machinery, and the wheel itself, are younger. | 0:10:11 | 0:10:15 | |
Now, this is where the whole job starts. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:18 | |
We can't do anything until the waterwheel is turning. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:22 | |
That is the waterwheel there, yes? | 0:10:22 | 0:10:23 | |
That's the waterwheel and it won't turn | 0:10:23 | 0:10:25 | |
until we let the water in by lifting that sluice. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:29 | |
Yeah, like that. Turn... That's right. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:31 | |
I can see it now, yeah, yeah. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:33 | |
Bit further. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:33 | |
Right. BRIAN CHUCKLES | 0:10:35 | 0:10:38 | |
Watch. You see, that's going down. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:40 | |
There we go. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:42 | |
Crikey, that is fast, that is. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:48 | |
And that will keep going for the rest of the day now. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:50 | |
This place is extraordinary with its Domesday credentials, | 0:10:52 | 0:10:57 | |
and every cog, wheel and pulley works a treat. | 0:10:57 | 0:11:00 | |
So, we go up one floor, now. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:02 | |
We are up on the first floor up. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:04 | |
It's called the stone floor, | 0:11:04 | 0:11:05 | |
because this is where the millstones are. Right. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:09 | |
And the wheat goes in there | 0:11:09 | 0:11:11 | |
and the flour comes out around the edge of the stone | 0:11:11 | 0:11:15 | |
and it goes down a chute, down to the floor below into the sacks. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:19 | |
But it's in the kitchen where I belong, | 0:11:21 | 0:11:23 | |
so I've washed my hands and I'm ready to bake. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:27 | |
Now, this is the old back kitchen of the miller's house. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:31 | |
It probably dates from about 1730. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:34 | |
At the end of a day's baking, | 0:11:34 | 0:11:36 | |
the miller's wife would, for a treat, | 0:11:36 | 0:11:38 | |
take the last bit of dough and turn it into lardy cake. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:42 | |
Suffolk lardy cake is the best you can get. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:46 | |
Well, it's almost as good as Yorkshire lardy cake. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:48 | |
Almost, almost. But I know what you mean, aye. THEY LAUGH | 0:11:48 | 0:11:51 | |
I have to admit, I've never made lardy cake the Suffolk way before, | 0:11:52 | 0:11:56 | |
so David's going to talk me through it, | 0:11:56 | 0:11:59 | |
starting with a large dollop of bread dough. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:02 | |
Now, we want that rolled out to a rectangle. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:05 | |
Right. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:07 | |
The next thing is to take the lard, | 0:12:07 | 0:12:10 | |
and lard it. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:12 | |
In other words, spread it fairly thick on there. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:15 | |
Now, there's 8oz of lard there, isn't there? In old money. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:18 | |
Yes, but don't put all of it on. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:20 | |
We are going to have two or three layers. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:22 | |
So, am I doing all of it? | 0:12:22 | 0:12:24 | |
Yes, yes, you can either spread it or dot it on. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:27 | |
That's right. Just like that. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:29 | |
Now, sprinkle sugar all over there. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:32 | |
All of this? | 0:12:32 | 0:12:33 | |
No, because we are going to do several layers | 0:12:33 | 0:12:35 | |
and anyway, there's probably... That's right. Right. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:38 | |
And then the final touch is the raisins. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:41 | |
Lovely raisins. They were quite a luxury in the old days, raisins. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:44 | |
Not all the versions of lardy cake have raisins in. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:47 | |
Don't some of them have chopped mixed fruit? | 0:12:47 | 0:12:50 | |
Yes, yes, yes. I've seen that. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:51 | |
Right, OK. So...next job? | 0:12:51 | 0:12:53 | |
Now, then, you fold it over and then roll it again | 0:12:53 | 0:12:57 | |
and you are going to do another layer. Like that? That's right. | 0:12:57 | 0:13:00 | |
That's right. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:03 | |
I didn't say it would be healthy! | 0:13:03 | 0:13:06 | |
You add another lot of lard, sugar and raisins, and then fold again. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:10 | |
Then, fold it over. One more time. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:12 | |
You add the ingredients and fold and roll out once more, | 0:13:12 | 0:13:16 | |
so you'll get that lovely layered effect when it's finished. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:20 | |
Judging by the eye, that looks about all right. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:22 | |
And then, into the oven. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:24 | |
That's right, that's fine. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:26 | |
Close the oven door. That's right. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:28 | |
Keep the heat in. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:29 | |
For about half an hour. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:31 | |
Job well done, sir. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:33 | |
When I was a kid, my dad ran a transport cafe in Yorkshire | 0:13:33 | 0:13:36 | |
and lardy cake's just the sort of old favourite | 0:13:36 | 0:13:39 | |
he would have loved making. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:41 | |
So, when it's ready, | 0:13:41 | 0:13:43 | |
and with a nod to my dad, | 0:13:43 | 0:13:45 | |
I want to add a bit of Yorkshire. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:47 | |
Right, here comes the treat. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:50 | |
So, what I'm going to do, | 0:13:50 | 0:13:52 | |
I thought I'd just... | 0:13:52 | 0:13:53 | |
I didn't put too much lard in | 0:13:53 | 0:13:56 | |
and so there's not a lot there, | 0:13:56 | 0:13:57 | |
but I thought if you just take a little bit out... Good idea. | 0:13:57 | 0:14:00 | |
Just brush it on top, just give that a little bit of a shine, | 0:14:00 | 0:14:03 | |
because my dad, when he made anything like this, | 0:14:03 | 0:14:06 | |
he'd like it to shine and then he'd also put... | 0:14:06 | 0:14:10 | |
Just to make sure. Just a sprinkle of sugar on it. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:13 | |
Well, it just changes the colour. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:15 | |
Looks good. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:16 | |
And by crikey... BOTH: It IS good. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:27 | |
but I'm not sure if Nigel would have eaten it at his first school, | 0:14:31 | 0:14:34 | |
now redeveloped as a retirement village. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:37 | |
We've brought Nigel back to see what he remembers | 0:14:38 | 0:14:42 | |
and what's changed. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:44 | |
It must have been a huge wrench to be sent off to boarding school | 0:14:44 | 0:14:48 | |
at such a young age. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:49 | |
This was my prep school, my first proper school | 0:14:51 | 0:14:55 | |
and I came here when I was just six, just over six years old. | 0:14:55 | 0:14:58 | |
Little shiver went up my spine going up the drive just now. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:05 | |
And I remember that drive being really scary and erm... | 0:15:07 | 0:15:10 | |
But, no, six is quite young. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:12 | |
Was your brother here when you got here? | 0:15:15 | 0:15:17 | |
He was, but I didn't see him. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:19 | |
Oh, right. He was in a different... I'm getting all emotional. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:22 | |
Oh, no, don't! He was in a different building to me, | 0:15:22 | 0:15:24 | |
so I hardly ever crossed, you know, crossed over with him. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:28 | |
Nigel's brother Philip is 18 months older | 0:15:29 | 0:15:32 | |
and later followed their father into law. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:35 | |
And when you came up the drive to come here, | 0:15:35 | 0:15:37 | |
did your father bring you in the car? Yes. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:40 | |
He shook my hand and said, "Now, be a man," or something. | 0:15:40 | 0:15:44 | |
"Be a man." No, no tears. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:46 | |
Was your mother there? Yep. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:47 | |
Was she in tears? No, I... She... I didn't see that. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:50 | |
And then, they drove away and that was that. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:54 | |
Didn't see them for three months. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:56 | |
I know it's a bit odd. It sounds really... | 0:15:56 | 0:15:59 | |
Victorian. Victorian, and it was, | 0:15:59 | 0:16:02 | |
but it was the norm then, so I'm not complaining about that at all. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:04 | |
But I have some very happy memories as well. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:07 | |
What subjects did you excel at here and what was your... | 0:16:07 | 0:16:10 | |
What did you hate? | 0:16:10 | 0:16:11 | |
Actually, I didn't mind any of the subjects really. | 0:16:11 | 0:16:14 | |
What about food memories at that time? | 0:16:14 | 0:16:17 | |
The dish I remember most of all was called Ganges mud. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:20 | |
It was chocolate cake with chocolate custard in it. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:22 | |
Oh, that doesn't sound too bad! No, no, it was great. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:25 | |
Thought it was something horrific! We were like, "Yeah, Ganges mud!" | 0:16:25 | 0:16:28 | |
The roasts and things were fine and I don't remember... | 0:16:28 | 0:16:33 | |
Now, that's something to remember. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:37 | |
No tinned pilchards or sardines in anything I make for Nigel! | 0:16:37 | 0:16:41 | |
I'm formulating my plan for a tribute dish to cook later. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:46 | |
But first, I'm off to my open-air kitchen | 0:16:46 | 0:16:48 | |
in the grounds of this magnificent building, | 0:16:48 | 0:16:50 | |
to make something nostalgic, | 0:16:50 | 0:16:53 | |
a Havers family classic, | 0:16:53 | 0:16:55 | |
while Nigel has a look round his old school. | 0:16:55 | 0:16:58 | |
So, here we are. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:00 | |
This entrance has stayed the same | 0:17:00 | 0:17:03 | |
and the headmaster's study... | 0:17:03 | 0:17:04 | |
..(was here, through here.) | 0:17:05 | 0:17:07 | |
(I'm just going to go in.) | 0:17:07 | 0:17:09 | |
This, this, this is the door I used to have to go... | 0:17:10 | 0:17:13 | |
HE KNOCKS "Come in." | 0:17:13 | 0:17:15 | |
Ah, it's reception! Hello, good afternoon. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:18 | |
Sorry to bother you. I'm just going round here. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:21 | |
This was the headmaster's study. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:23 | |
This was the headmaster's study. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:24 | |
This was where I was beaten. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:26 | |
Were you? HE LAUGHS | 0:17:26 | 0:17:28 | |
Many times? | 0:17:28 | 0:17:29 | |
Quite a few actually, but that wasn't uncommon... | 0:17:29 | 0:17:33 | |
In those days! ..in those days. We were all beaten. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:35 | |
I've heard all the stories. We get some old boys here. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:38 | |
Do you? Yeah, yeah, all the time. From all over. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:41 | |
America, Australia, New Zealand. Really? Yep. | 0:17:41 | 0:17:43 | |
Now, this hall here hasn't changed at all. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:48 | |
Winners of the art prize, pictures were hung on the walls here | 0:17:48 | 0:17:51 | |
and, believe it or not, I won the art prize one year. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:55 | |
So, my painting was hung somewhere about there. | 0:17:55 | 0:17:59 | |
You can still see the holes in the wood | 0:17:59 | 0:18:01 | |
where they would hang the pictures. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:03 | |
And my painting was of the Fire of London. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
Beautiful painting, obviously, and I don't know where it is now. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:10 | |
Probably like the Fire of London, it's just gone up in smoke. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:12 | |
While Nigel continues stirring up schoolboy memories, | 0:18:14 | 0:18:18 | |
I'm cracking on with a dish that I hope will whisk him back | 0:18:18 | 0:18:22 | |
to school holidays and cherished times at home with his parents. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:26 | |
Good hot pan is what you need. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:28 | |
Bit of rapeseed oil and then, we put this mincemeat in there. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:34 | |
You need to put good heat on that, as hot as you can. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:36 | |
I'm going to do this in two different pans. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:39 | |
You can do it in the same pan, but that's if you've got | 0:18:39 | 0:18:41 | |
really good heat, so I'm going to sweat off the vegetables. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:44 | |
In Nigel's day, | 0:18:46 | 0:18:48 | |
most of these vegetables would come from his dad's garden. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:52 | |
Add a diced leek to one onion and one carrot, | 0:18:55 | 0:18:58 | |
and sweat the veg for five minutes without letting them catch. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:02 | |
Wow! This is the dining room. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:06 | |
I used to think it was so big! | 0:19:06 | 0:19:09 | |
But in fact it's... | 0:19:09 | 0:19:10 | |
..quite small. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:13 | |
Anyway, when I became head boy... Are you ready for this? | 0:19:13 | 0:19:17 | |
I was actually head boy at this school when I finished up here. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:21 | |
I was supposedly the worst head boy they ever had, | 0:19:21 | 0:19:25 | |
because I let anybody do anything they wanted to do. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:27 | |
That was my new beginning of a hippy period. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:30 | |
And the headmaster, he sat at the top table here | 0:19:30 | 0:19:34 | |
and that's where the headmaster would do this. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:36 | |
On my first week in school, | 0:19:36 | 0:19:38 | |
he went... GLASS CLINKS | 0:19:38 | 0:19:40 | |
"Mr Havers, Mr so-and-so, Mr Jones, come to my study." | 0:19:40 | 0:19:43 | |
So I thought, "Right!" | 0:19:44 | 0:19:46 | |
And that's when I went and got a beating, | 0:19:46 | 0:19:48 | |
not knowing what I had done wrong, but I got beaten. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:50 | |
Now, follow me. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:00 | |
Up the stairs there, | 0:20:04 | 0:20:06 | |
where it says "exit", | 0:20:06 | 0:20:07 | |
there was the tuck room. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:09 | |
And on Wednesdays after lunch, and Saturdays after lunch, | 0:20:09 | 0:20:13 | |
we were allowed... We had to queue up. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:15 | |
We were allowed to spend sixpence on the sweet shop | 0:20:15 | 0:20:18 | |
and so in there was the sweet shop. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:20 | |
Big decision time, you know, what to have. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:22 | |
Er, er... "Shall I have a Bounty this week, or a small Mars bar?" | 0:20:22 | 0:20:27 | |
I didn't like Mars bars. I went for a Bounty. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:30 | |
Oh! It would have been a Mars bar for me! | 0:20:30 | 0:20:33 | |
I'm just adding the final ingredients to the mix. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:37 | |
We've taken the skin off, we're going to take the seeds out. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:41 | |
This wonderful mixture of meat and vegetables. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:47 | |
One thing that Nigel's mum probably didn't use - | 0:20:48 | 0:20:50 | |
I don't know that, because my mum certainly didn't use - | 0:20:50 | 0:20:53 | |
was a bit of garlic. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:54 | |
See how the meat's starting to get a bit browner there? | 0:20:58 | 0:21:00 | |
And then, I'm going to put my vegetables in there... | 0:21:00 | 0:21:04 | |
..and, I think, a good slug of mustard works well there. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:11 | |
Then, we need some Worcester sauce | 0:21:11 | 0:21:14 | |
and pepper. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:15 | |
Give it a good old stir, and then put in the chicken stock | 0:21:20 | 0:21:23 | |
and we're going to leave that to cook for about 30 minutes. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:27 | |
Don't put too much in, | 0:21:29 | 0:21:31 | |
you can always add a bit more if you need to do. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:32 | |
And just smell those smells! | 0:21:32 | 0:21:35 | |
And now's a good time to get some peeled potatoes on the boil | 0:21:36 | 0:21:39 | |
to make the mash, | 0:21:39 | 0:21:41 | |
while Nigel revisits old haunts in his school grounds. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:46 | |
Now, this is where we... | 0:21:46 | 0:21:50 | |
first week in July, July 8th probably, | 0:21:50 | 0:21:54 | |
we would put on... | 0:21:54 | 0:21:55 | |
The headmaster put on a Shakespeare play, and this is, | 0:21:55 | 0:22:00 | |
this raised bit was the stage, here, | 0:22:00 | 0:22:03 | |
and they built a set behind | 0:22:03 | 0:22:06 | |
and then, over here would be a great big marquee | 0:22:06 | 0:22:09 | |
where all the audience would sit. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:11 | |
And this is where I gave my first theatrical performance. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:17 | |
Mamillius. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:20 | |
And I would have stood right here. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:22 | |
And that's why I've never been frightened of Shakespeare, | 0:22:23 | 0:22:26 | |
because I was taught it very young and understood the language, | 0:22:26 | 0:22:29 | |
and it was second nature to me to speak Shakespearean. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:32 | |
"Come let us sit upon the ground, | 0:22:32 | 0:22:34 | |
"and tell sad stories of the death of kings." | 0:22:34 | 0:22:36 | |
Things like that. | 0:22:36 | 0:22:38 | |
Wonderful. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:39 | |
This was a very happy memory, being on here. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:43 | |
I've got to the finishing stages of my nostalgia dish for Nigel. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:54 | |
As you can see from what I've assembled here, cottage pie. | 0:22:54 | 0:22:57 | |
This is the fun bit of it. | 0:22:57 | 0:22:59 | |
You've got mashed potatoes with a bit of... | 0:22:59 | 0:23:01 | |
Mashed potato with just a tiny touch of butter in there | 0:23:01 | 0:23:04 | |
and all you do is just, very carefully... | 0:23:04 | 0:23:06 | |
Ahh, that's so professional. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:10 | |
So they go opposite ways. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:11 | |
So that it goes opposite ways, yeah. Oh, that's so smart! | 0:23:11 | 0:23:14 | |
But the trick is, and here, one has to be careful what one says, | 0:23:14 | 0:23:18 | |
is to make sure that you don't have much potato left. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:21 | |
But likewise, you have enough to cover the whole thing. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:26 | |
Because I just chuck it on and smear it round with a fork. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:30 | |
Well, my dad used to do exactly the same at the transport cafe | 0:23:30 | 0:23:32 | |
and, listen, it doesn't taste any different like this. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:34 | |
But if you're going to put it on the table | 0:23:34 | 0:23:36 | |
and just want it to have that little ta-da, wow effect... | 0:23:36 | 0:23:39 | |
Yeah, yeah. That just looks amazing. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:42 | |
Let me turn it round for you. What a nice man you are! | 0:23:42 | 0:23:44 | |
So you are now a commis chef. Yeah, I like the sound of that. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:47 | |
What a team, I can see all this. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:49 | |
See, I'm now stretching it a little because I'm now just getting... | 0:23:49 | 0:23:52 | |
just to the end. You're just going to do it perfectly. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:55 | |
I'm just going to... | 0:23:55 | 0:24:00 | |
Oh, you've done it. Yes! Yes, brilliant. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:05 | |
nice and hot, let it set the top of that, | 0:24:05 | 0:24:10 | |
so let me just stick that in for a second. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:12 | |
While we're waiting for the pie to cook, | 0:24:15 | 0:24:17 | |
there's one more thing Nigel wants to find in the grounds. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:21 | |
I'm now going to introduce you to an old friend of mine. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:25 | |
This is a tree | 0:24:25 | 0:24:27 | |
and we were encouraged, actually, to carve our initials in this tree. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:31 | |
And it goes all the way round, obviously, | 0:24:33 | 0:24:35 | |
but I'm going to show you where I think I carved mine, er... | 0:24:35 | 0:24:39 | |
There's the N... | 0:24:39 | 0:24:41 | |
..and there's the H there. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:44 | |
That's me. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:46 | |
And I did that probably in... | 0:24:46 | 0:24:48 | |
Let's think about this, it's 1960... | 0:24:48 | 0:24:52 | |
Ooh, that ages me. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:54 | |
I must have been on someone's shoulders, | 0:24:55 | 0:24:57 | |
because I was only up to there then, but there I am. | 0:24:57 | 0:25:02 | |
Fantastic. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:03 | |
My cottage pie is almost ready. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:08 | |
I've cooked minced beef in rapeseed oil | 0:25:08 | 0:25:11 | |
and, separately, sweated onion, carrot and leek... | 0:25:11 | 0:25:14 | |
..adding chopped tomatoes and garlic. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:20 | |
To the whole mix, | 0:25:20 | 0:25:21 | |
I added mustard, black pepper, | 0:25:21 | 0:25:23 | |
Worcestershire sauce and chicken stock, and simmered. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:26 | |
Meanwhile, I mashed potatoes | 0:25:26 | 0:25:28 | |
and assembled the whole lot with seasoning, | 0:25:28 | 0:25:30 | |
then baked for ten minutes. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:33 | |
I've drizzled on melted butter, then 30 more minutes in the oven. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:37 | |
So, we talked a lot about meat, of course, er, here, | 0:25:38 | 0:25:41 | |
the sausages and that, | 0:25:41 | 0:25:42 | |
and we did mention that you do like a bit of fish every now and then. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:48 | |
because I'm going to do another dish for you, which is a tribute dish. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:51 | |
Hopefully it'll remind you of certain things of your... | 0:25:51 | 0:25:54 | |
Certain stages in your childhood. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:55 | |
Did you go fishing? Yes. We fished here. | 0:25:55 | 0:25:58 | |
There's a great big lake at the bottom here | 0:25:58 | 0:26:00 | |
and we were allowed to go fishing. What did you catch in there? | 0:26:00 | 0:26:03 | |
Roach and... Carp. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:04 | |
Carp, little ones. Right. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:09 | |
A little float, you know. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:11 | |
Mmm. I think fish is the way to go with my tribute dish, | 0:26:11 | 0:26:15 | |
especially as we're in Suffolk. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:17 | |
But right now, my cottage pie is ready. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:22 | |
Even in this little oven here, it does look... | 0:26:22 | 0:26:24 | |
Oh, look at that! It's perfect. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:32 | |
probably harking back to childhood for many of us - cottage pie. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:36 | |
There's nowt beats a good old-fashioned dish like this! | 0:26:37 | 0:26:41 | |
There you go, sir. Oh, that looks good. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:43 | |
Just like your mum did? Yeah. | 0:26:54 | 0:26:56 | |
That's how it was meant to be, yeah. | 0:26:56 | 0:26:58 | |
Very simple, but absolutely delicious. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:01 | |
You don't need anything else with this. | 0:27:01 | 0:27:04 | |
I'm beginning to get a good idea of what makes Nigel tick, | 0:27:04 | 0:27:08 | |
with his fascinating memories of childhood, | 0:27:08 | 0:27:11 | |
what he likes to eat these days | 0:27:11 | 0:27:12 | |
and the wonderful food to be found locally in Suffolk. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:15 | |
Of course, with its miles of stunning coastline, | 0:27:17 | 0:27:20 | |
it's always been a great place for fish - fresh and smoked - | 0:27:20 | 0:27:24 | |
so I think I'll use both in my tribute dish for Nigel. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:27 | |
In the heyday of Britain's commercial fishing industry, | 0:27:31 | 0:27:34 | |
much of East Anglia's coast was a fantastically busy place. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:39 | |
As load after load of the glistening cargo is brought ashore, | 0:27:39 | 0:27:41 | |
they pounce on them like hunters on their prey. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:43 | |
Herring was landed in huge catches | 0:27:43 | 0:27:46 | |
and either left whole, as bloaters, | 0:27:46 | 0:27:48 | |
or split in half to be smoked as kippers. | 0:27:48 | 0:27:51 | |
Heavily salted and smoked straight from the sea, | 0:27:51 | 0:27:53 | |
this was the traditional way of preserving fish. | 0:27:53 | 0:27:56 | |
These days, the local herring industry has shrunk, | 0:27:59 | 0:28:02 | |
but one Suffolk family is keeping | 0:28:02 | 0:28:04 | |
the East Anglian fish-smoking tradition alive in Orford. | 0:28:04 | 0:28:09 | |
We smoke all, all kinds of fish - salmon, trout, mackerel, | 0:28:10 | 0:28:14 | |
eels, cod roe, kippers, bloaters, sardines. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:20 | |
Man and boy, Bill Pinney has lived and breathed fish. | 0:28:20 | 0:28:25 | |
Running a smokehouse is demanding because it is seven days a week. | 0:28:26 | 0:28:31 | |
The smoker's going 24 hours a day, | 0:28:31 | 0:28:32 | |
so it needs constant care and attention. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:35 | |
Other people worry about feeding their dogs. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:37 | |
My main concern is keeping the smoke boxes topped up | 0:28:37 | 0:28:40 | |
and keeping the smoker running. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:43 | |
It was Bill's dad who started this family's business. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:47 | |
My father came here just after the war | 0:28:47 | 0:28:49 | |
and I suppose, in about the mid '50s or something like that, | 0:28:49 | 0:28:52 | |
started experimenting with fish. | 0:28:52 | 0:28:54 | |
He taught me how to fillet salmon, chop the wood, | 0:28:54 | 0:28:58 | |
keep the smoke house going - all the basics really. | 0:28:58 | 0:29:02 | |
Producing perfectly smoked fish is a delicate operation | 0:29:02 | 0:29:06 | |
with a few key stages - salting, gutting and then smoking. | 0:29:06 | 0:29:10 | |
The only ingredients are salt and oak smoke, nothing else. | 0:29:12 | 0:29:16 | |
Smoking is a relatively simple process, | 0:29:16 | 0:29:18 | |
but it is something that you have to know. | 0:29:18 | 0:29:20 | |
It's an art rather than a process | 0:29:20 | 0:29:23 | |
and getting it right does require quite a depth of knowledge, really. | 0:29:23 | 0:29:28 | |
While the logs of oak get smoking, the fish are prepared. | 0:29:32 | 0:29:36 | |
We cut the herring along the back and split it open. | 0:29:37 | 0:29:41 | |
And then, you've got the roe and the guts which you take out. | 0:29:41 | 0:29:47 | |
That's your split herring and the, um, | 0:29:48 | 0:29:51 | |
the next stage is we are going to just wash the fish | 0:29:51 | 0:29:53 | |
and then put them in brine and hang them up in the smoker overnight. | 0:29:53 | 0:29:57 | |
All the fish are cold-smoked, which dries and flavours them. | 0:29:57 | 0:30:03 | |
These are the kippers going in, they are going into the cold-smoking end. | 0:30:06 | 0:30:10 | |
They're now in their raw state, | 0:30:11 | 0:30:16 | |
but they are going to be left in there for about 12 hours | 0:30:16 | 0:30:19 | |
and, hopefully, by tomorrow morning they'll be nice and golden | 0:30:19 | 0:30:22 | |
and ready to come out. | 0:30:22 | 0:30:23 | |
And this is what the kippers look like | 0:30:25 | 0:30:27 | |
at the end of the cold-smoking process. | 0:30:27 | 0:30:30 | |
You see it's gone this lovely golden colour. | 0:30:30 | 0:30:32 | |
These, actually, these are not cooked in the smoker. | 0:30:32 | 0:30:35 | |
These you buy cold-smoked | 0:30:35 | 0:30:38 | |
and then, you are going to take them home | 0:30:38 | 0:30:40 | |
and put them underneath the grill or in a frying pan and finish them off. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:44 | |
Other fish like sea trout have a final hot-smoking stage. | 0:30:44 | 0:30:48 | |
Bill has to be careful not to let them get too hot | 0:30:48 | 0:30:51 | |
or the whole lot will be ruined. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:53 | |
You can see that we are now cooking these fish over an open fire, | 0:30:55 | 0:30:59 | |
giving them a nice barbecued flavour from the fire. | 0:30:59 | 0:31:02 | |
But we're actually cooking these so that when they come out of here, they'll be ready to eat. | 0:31:02 | 0:31:06 | |
Locally-produced ingredients like these are helping to inspire | 0:31:06 | 0:31:10 | |
my tribute dish to Nigel, which I'm going to make at his childhood home. | 0:31:10 | 0:31:15 | |
We're taking Nigel back to the Suffolk village house | 0:31:18 | 0:31:21 | |
his parents bought in the '50s to bring up their two boys. | 0:31:21 | 0:31:25 | |
To start with, it was a wreck, | 0:31:25 | 0:31:27 | |
with no running water or electricity. | 0:31:27 | 0:31:30 | |
This is the house I was brought up in. | 0:31:30 | 0:31:32 | |
It's called White Shutters | 0:31:32 | 0:31:34 | |
and my father bought it for ?200 in 1957, I think. | 0:31:34 | 0:31:39 | |
So, what age were you? I was about five or six. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:42 | |
OK, so this was before you went to school? Yep. | 0:31:42 | 0:31:45 | |
So, how long did you actually live here? | 0:31:45 | 0:31:47 | |
I then lived here for, right, most of my... Until 20. | 0:31:47 | 0:31:51 | |
I'd been going to London for a bit but this was home. | 0:31:51 | 0:31:53 | |
Right. Yeah. | 0:31:53 | 0:31:55 | |
So, did you have loads of mates in the village? | 0:31:55 | 0:31:57 | |
I had mates in the village and in the next village, | 0:31:57 | 0:31:59 | |
and then came the '60s and everyone had to be in a band, | 0:31:59 | 0:32:02 | |
so we were in a band. | 0:32:02 | 0:32:04 | |
We had a band in... Not the White Shutter Band? | 0:32:04 | 0:32:06 | |
No, we were called January and I have no idea why. | 0:32:06 | 0:32:08 | |
And there's a barn over there and we used to rehearse in that barn. | 0:32:08 | 0:32:11 | |
Must have driven the neighbours crazy. | 0:32:11 | 0:32:13 | |
What did you do? Were you a singer? | 0:32:13 | 0:32:14 | |
I was bass guitar and singing, vocals, yeah. | 0:32:14 | 0:32:17 | |
There was a tiny little sort of outbuilding there | 0:32:17 | 0:32:20 | |
and I remember, with my brother, I was sort of lighting matches, as... | 0:32:20 | 0:32:23 | |
Why kids want to do that, I don't know. | 0:32:23 | 0:32:25 | |
But I was, and I dropped it onto the straw and it burnt down. | 0:32:25 | 0:32:29 | |
Oh, no! The little building burnt down and the fire brigade arrived, | 0:32:29 | 0:32:33 | |
and they said, "Who, um, who set this on fire?" | 0:32:33 | 0:32:36 | |
My brother said, "He did," pointing at me. | 0:32:36 | 0:32:38 | |
And I didn't know that it was sort of a 17th-century listed building. | 0:32:38 | 0:32:42 | |
What did your father say? | 0:32:42 | 0:32:44 | |
He said, "You're a very naughty boy." | 0:32:44 | 0:32:46 | |
So, how long did your parents own this for? | 0:32:46 | 0:32:49 | |
Oh, 30-odd years. | 0:32:49 | 0:32:50 | |
Oh, right. And they loved it. | 0:32:50 | 0:32:52 | |
I know my dad loved it because he was a keen gardener | 0:32:52 | 0:32:55 | |
and he was an odd-jobman. | 0:32:55 | 0:32:57 | |
I used to help him, you know, with building projects and things. | 0:32:57 | 0:33:00 | |
I don't think he was very good, | 0:33:00 | 0:33:01 | |
but he'd be there with a saw and a hammer, and I loved doing it with him, | 0:33:01 | 0:33:04 | |
so it was, sort of, kind of a bonding thing. | 0:33:04 | 0:33:06 | |
And he loved growing tomatoes and vegetables | 0:33:06 | 0:33:08 | |
and he had these, sort of, polytunnels. Oh, right. | 0:33:08 | 0:33:11 | |
Yeah, and it was quite, you know... | 0:33:11 | 0:33:13 | |
It was quite new, that idea of polytunnels, | 0:33:13 | 0:33:15 | |
but in a big storm, | 0:33:15 | 0:33:16 | |
all the polytunnels ended up in another field. | 0:33:16 | 0:33:19 | |
It didn't worry him though. He picked them up, put them back. THEY CHUCKLE | 0:33:19 | 0:33:23 | |
So, when was the last time you actually visited here? | 0:33:23 | 0:33:25 | |
I think it must be 40 years. Good Lord. And have you driven past? | 0:33:25 | 0:33:29 | |
I have driven past, | 0:33:29 | 0:33:30 | |
because I was asked to do something in the village hall. | 0:33:30 | 0:33:33 | |
Oh, right! | 0:33:33 | 0:33:35 | |
Well, I'm going to go and cook a dish | 0:33:35 | 0:33:37 | |
which sorts of represents your life on a plate in many ways, | 0:33:37 | 0:33:40 | |
represents the area, the people, | 0:33:40 | 0:33:43 | |
and something that I think you'll enjoy eating. | 0:33:43 | 0:33:45 | |
Feeling inspired, | 0:33:47 | 0:33:48 | |
I'm off to the outdoor kitchen we've set up in his childhood garden. | 0:33:48 | 0:33:51 | |
So, if I've learnt anything about Nigel Havers | 0:33:53 | 0:33:55 | |
it's that he likes simplicity. | 0:33:55 | 0:33:57 | |
Freshness, no complications, | 0:33:57 | 0:33:59 | |
so the dish I'm going to cook represents a lot of that. | 0:33:59 | 0:34:02 | |
I have got some wonderful fish over here, a lovely piece of skate, | 0:34:02 | 0:34:06 | |
very fresh. | 0:34:06 | 0:34:07 | |
I'm going to serve it with lettuce, | 0:34:07 | 0:34:09 | |
but I'm going to cook the lettuce | 0:34:09 | 0:34:10 | |
and then, some brown shrimps, | 0:34:10 | 0:34:12 | |
and he's a touch of class is Mr Havers, | 0:34:12 | 0:34:14 | |
so I've got some smoked salmon | 0:34:14 | 0:34:16 | |
to make it really just that bit special. | 0:34:16 | 0:34:18 | |
And while I cook, Nigel's going back into the house | 0:34:20 | 0:34:23 | |
he hasn't set foot in since his 20s. | 0:34:23 | 0:34:26 | |
Well, this is the kitchen. | 0:34:26 | 0:34:29 | |
Always was the kitchen, | 0:34:29 | 0:34:30 | |
but they've, um, they've really made it smart | 0:34:30 | 0:34:33 | |
and indeed, this was where the sink was. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:37 | |
So here would be my mum, cooking away. | 0:34:37 | 0:34:40 | |
If she got exotic, spaghetti bolognese, | 0:34:40 | 0:34:43 | |
and boiled eggs on toast and all that sort of thing. | 0:34:43 | 0:34:47 | |
And here we are in the dining room. | 0:34:47 | 0:34:50 | |
It is exactly the same as it was in, in the... | 0:34:50 | 0:34:54 | |
Except we had it painted green, I seem to remember. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:57 | |
And a strange carpet was here, and a dresser there. | 0:34:57 | 0:35:00 | |
Table in the middle like this | 0:35:00 | 0:35:02 | |
and our glasses were kept in the same way, there, | 0:35:02 | 0:35:06 | |
and in here was the wine cellar, or I should really say wine cupboard. | 0:35:06 | 0:35:10 | |
Let's have a look. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:12 | |
Yes! And I can remember one night, when my parents were away, | 0:35:12 | 0:35:15 | |
my brother and I, we thought we'd have a bottle of wine | 0:35:15 | 0:35:17 | |
and we opened a bottle of wine, and after we finished it, | 0:35:17 | 0:35:20 | |
we realised it was a really, really expensive bottle of wine, | 0:35:20 | 0:35:23 | |
so we lobbed the empty bottle. | 0:35:23 | 0:35:24 | |
Couldn't put it in the bin because Dad might have seen it. | 0:35:24 | 0:35:27 | |
We lobbed the bottle over the road into a field over there, | 0:35:27 | 0:35:31 | |
and a week later, the farmer came over the road, | 0:35:31 | 0:35:34 | |
and said, "I found this bottle of wine!" | 0:35:34 | 0:35:36 | |
So our secret was blown. | 0:35:37 | 0:35:39 | |
I'm glad he likes his wine, | 0:35:43 | 0:35:46 | |
cos there's going to be a drop or two in this. | 0:35:46 | 0:35:48 | |
I'm making a light dish, starting with summer veg. | 0:35:48 | 0:35:51 | |
First thing we need to do, we're just going to take off the, | 0:35:54 | 0:35:57 | |
just the little bit of root there, so it's not colouring, | 0:35:57 | 0:36:01 | |
then, I cut the lettuce in half - those look lovely. | 0:36:01 | 0:36:04 | |
Salt. | 0:36:04 | 0:36:05 | |
Pepper. | 0:36:07 | 0:36:08 | |
Quite a bit of pepper. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:11 | |
And some fresh local rapeseed oil, | 0:36:14 | 0:36:18 | |
and that simply goes in the oven for about 15 minutes to roast. | 0:36:18 | 0:36:23 | |
Very nice, very tasty. | 0:36:23 | 0:36:25 | |
In that goes. | 0:36:25 | 0:36:27 | |
About 180 degrees, take about 10-15 minutes. | 0:36:27 | 0:36:30 | |
Now, bring the pan down here. | 0:36:30 | 0:36:32 | |
Cut these lovely bits of skate | 0:36:32 | 0:36:35 | |
so it fits nicely...in our pan. | 0:36:35 | 0:36:39 | |
Just going to give that skate that bit of extra flavour. | 0:36:39 | 0:36:43 | |
We do that by cooking it in a nice liquor with bags of flavour in. | 0:36:45 | 0:36:49 | |
Some sliced onion, goes over the top there, some pepper corns. | 0:36:49 | 0:36:55 | |
All very simple. Very classic. | 0:36:55 | 0:36:59 | |
Bay leaf, a dry white wine over the top. | 0:36:59 | 0:37:04 | |
Some water to make sure it's covered... | 0:37:06 | 0:37:08 | |
..so it will cook nice and evenly, | 0:37:09 | 0:37:12 | |
and I'm just going to put a little squeeze of lemon juice in there. | 0:37:12 | 0:37:18 | |
could put it in the oven, if you like. | 0:37:18 | 0:37:21 | |
Bit of salt in there before we forget. | 0:37:21 | 0:37:23 | |
And just bring it up to the boil and then, turn it down | 0:37:25 | 0:37:28 | |
so it simmers for about 15 minutes. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:34 | |
So, let's go upstairs. | 0:37:34 | 0:37:36 | |
Now... Oh, boy! | 0:37:39 | 0:37:40 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:37:40 | 0:37:47 | |
They never used to shut when I lived here. | 0:37:47 | 0:37:48 | |
LAUGHING: Ha! This is fantastic! | 0:37:48 | 0:37:53 | |
See these beams, they are all exactly the same | 0:37:53 | 0:37:56 | |
and I slept in the bed here. | 0:37:56 | 0:37:59 | |
This was my bed and my brother slept there. | 0:37:59 | 0:38:03 | |
Wow, this is memory lane time. | 0:38:03 | 0:38:05 | |
You know it always looked as though the roof was, sort of, | 0:38:05 | 0:38:08 | |
sort of coming down, because it kind of bends, | 0:38:08 | 0:38:11 | |
but this is what cottages in Suffolk do and all these beams. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:14 | |
It's beautiful. | 0:38:14 | 0:38:15 | |
Happy Days! | 0:38:15 | 0:38:18 | |
I've pulled together all the aspects of Nigel's past | 0:38:18 | 0:38:21 | |
that we've heard about today, | 0:38:21 | 0:38:23 | |
with a dish I really hope he's going to love, | 0:38:23 | 0:38:26 | |
made with ingredients you can find fresh in Suffolk. | 0:38:26 | 0:38:29 | |
So far, I've put halved gem lettuces in the oven to roast | 0:38:31 | 0:38:35 | |
and I'm poaching skate wings in a liquor of onion, bay leaf, | 0:38:35 | 0:38:39 | |
white wine, peppercorns and just enough water to cover. | 0:38:39 | 0:38:43 | |
You've arrived at the right time, | 0:38:45 | 0:38:47 | |
because I think this skate is just about there, | 0:38:47 | 0:38:50 | |
but we can get everything else ready. | 0:38:50 | 0:38:52 | |
You like a roasted lettuce, don't you? I don't mind at all. | 0:38:52 | 0:38:54 | |
I think it is one of those things where you... | 0:38:54 | 0:38:57 | |
Be very careful, this is hot. | 0:38:57 | 0:38:58 | |
But it just gives it a different appearance and a different taste. | 0:38:58 | 0:39:00 | |
I just think it looks really nice. | 0:39:00 | 0:39:02 | |
Did you just turn that over with your fingers? Do you have asbestos fingers? | 0:39:02 | 0:39:05 | |
Sadly I do, it's one of those things that we learn. | 0:39:05 | 0:39:07 | |
I'm not going to do that. | 0:39:07 | 0:39:09 | |
No, quite! Let's take a bit of smoked salmon here. | 0:39:09 | 0:39:12 | |
Are you a smoked salmon fan? | 0:39:12 | 0:39:13 | |
I would get the impression that you are. I am. | 0:39:13 | 0:39:16 | |
So, what we'll do is we'll just put this together... | 0:39:16 | 0:39:19 | |
..and just cut it into a small dice. | 0:39:20 | 0:39:26 | |
just cos, "Oh, I love that! I think I'll put stacks of it on there." | 0:39:26 | 0:39:30 | |
Sometimes that's as big a mistake | 0:39:30 | 0:39:31 | |
as it is of not putting enough on there. | 0:39:31 | 0:39:35 | |
Leave them wanting more, as you'll be... | 0:39:36 | 0:39:38 | |
Where has that knife come from? Is that one of yours? | 0:39:38 | 0:39:41 | |
This is one of mine. This is a 50-year-old knife, | 0:39:41 | 0:39:43 | |
I got this at college. Er, it's a great knife, had it... | 0:39:43 | 0:39:46 | |
It's sharp, then? | 0:39:46 | 0:39:47 | |
It does its job right and ready, it does. | 0:39:47 | 0:39:49 | |
Right, I'm going to take a little bit of this parsley here. | 0:39:49 | 0:39:52 | |
Just wait till we actually start to chop it up a little bit, | 0:39:52 | 0:39:55 | |
and I think you should chop it at the last minute. | 0:39:55 | 0:39:57 | |
There's certain things you can get done in advance. | 0:39:57 | 0:39:59 | |
The smoked salmon you can get done in plenty of time in advance. | 0:39:59 | 0:40:03 | |
Now you can smell it. | 0:40:04 | 0:40:05 | |
Oh, I love that. Such a difference, isn't it, eh? | 0:40:05 | 0:40:08 | |
OK, right, I'm going to put the pan on here | 0:40:08 | 0:40:11 | |
and whilst that's happening, I think I'm going to take this skate off. | 0:40:11 | 0:40:16 | |
It's not a good idea to overcook these fishes, | 0:40:16 | 0:40:18 | |
they do tend to fall apart if you're not careful. | 0:40:18 | 0:40:21 | |
It's delicious, isn't it? | 0:40:21 | 0:40:23 | |
And it comes from the Suffolk coast. | 0:40:23 | 0:40:25 | |
Yeah, I think the village of Orford, they actually bring it in. | 0:40:25 | 0:40:28 | |
See, that's really, just nicely cooked and just drain it off, there. | 0:40:28 | 0:40:32 | |
OK, right, so just want this butter on the go, | 0:40:32 | 0:40:35 | |
so whilst that's on the go, let's put a few shrimps in there. | 0:40:35 | 0:40:39 | |
I do love these shrimps. Yeah, they're great. | 0:40:39 | 0:40:41 | |
So you can see that all the shrimps are starting to cook in there, | 0:40:41 | 0:40:44 | |
just starting to change colour. | 0:40:44 | 0:40:46 | |
I much prefer it that colour than too dark | 0:40:46 | 0:40:48 | |
and then, the smoked salmon. | 0:40:48 | 0:40:50 | |
Smells delicious. | 0:40:50 | 0:40:52 | |
And the plate, make sure it's warm | 0:40:52 | 0:40:55 | |
and we'll just very carefully... | 0:40:55 | 0:40:57 | |
It's just perfectly cooked, is that. | 0:40:57 | 0:41:00 | |
It's just starting to fall, which is just what I wanted. | 0:41:00 | 0:41:02 | |
That is lovely, is that. | 0:41:02 | 0:41:04 | |
So lemon juice goes in here now | 0:41:04 | 0:41:06 | |
and what I'm going to do, | 0:41:06 | 0:41:07 | |
which I hadn't planned on doing, | 0:41:07 | 0:41:09 | |
I'm just going to liven that skate up. | 0:41:09 | 0:41:12 | |
With a bit of pepper. | 0:41:12 | 0:41:13 | |
With a bit of pepper because I know that's good for you. | 0:41:13 | 0:41:19 | |
Like painting a picture. | 0:41:26 | 0:41:27 | |
Well, good presentation. Don't waste too much time on it, so you get to.. | 0:41:27 | 0:41:31 | |
I just want to get the colours... | 0:41:31 | 0:41:33 | |
There's your bit of lettuce. | 0:41:33 | 0:41:34 | |
And there we are. | 0:41:34 | 0:41:36 | |
My tribute dish for Nigel Havers. | 0:41:36 | 0:41:39 | |
Wing of skate with roast gem lettuce | 0:41:39 | 0:41:42 | |
and a dressing of rapeseed oil, | 0:41:42 | 0:41:44 | |
lemon, brown shrimps | 0:41:44 | 0:41:45 | |
and smoked salmon. | 0:41:45 | 0:41:47 | |
I really hope, Nigel Havers, that that represents you. | 0:41:49 | 0:41:52 | |
You have good fresh fish, it's simple, | 0:41:52 | 0:41:54 | |
it represents the area... | 0:41:54 | 0:41:55 | |
Absolutely. It brings back memories of childhood. | 0:41:55 | 0:41:58 | |
Yes, it does, because Dad would've grown those in the garden. | 0:41:58 | 0:42:00 | |
We loved all of this. | 0:42:00 | 0:42:01 | |
Would've got that from the fishmonger in Newmarket, | 0:42:01 | 0:42:04 | |
what we would've done. What a man. Get a knife and fork. | 0:42:04 | 0:42:06 | |
Yes. Right. | 0:42:06 | 0:42:07 | |
Look at that. Looks fantastic. | 0:42:07 | 0:42:09 | |
Great thing about skate, of course, there's two bits. | 0:42:09 | 0:42:12 | |
There's one bit on one side... | 0:42:12 | 0:42:13 | |
and then a bit on the other side. | 0:42:13 | 0:42:15 | |
Tuck in, sir. Shall I dig in? Please! | 0:42:15 | 0:42:17 | |
Make sure you get some of the garnish. | 0:42:17 | 0:42:19 | |
Yeah, I'm going to get all this, don't worry. | 0:42:19 | 0:42:21 | |
Going to make a pig of myself. That looks just too good. | 0:42:21 | 0:42:24 | |
Mmm! | 0:42:25 | 0:42:28 | |
That is fantastic. | 0:42:28 | 0:42:31 | |
So sweet, isn't it? | 0:42:31 | 0:42:32 | |
It is a good concoction, I have to say. It is. | 0:42:33 | 0:42:36 | |
It does work well together. | 0:42:36 | 0:42:37 | |
Try it with a bit of... | 0:42:37 | 0:42:39 | |
This is your recipe, isn't it? | 0:42:39 | 0:42:40 | |
This is one of your creations, especially for me. | 0:42:40 | 0:42:42 | |
Are you liking it? I'm loving it. | 0:42:42 | 0:42:44 | |
Then, it's definitely one of mine. | 0:42:44 | 0:42:46 | |
It's just magnificent. | 0:42:46 | 0:42:48 | |
Mmm, that makes it. | 0:42:50 | 0:42:52 | |
That's quite nice, it's not... | 0:42:52 | 0:42:54 | |
With the crunch, the flavour, and it is different. | 0:42:54 | 0:42:57 | |
I must say, it is nice chucking loads of butter on, isn't it? | 0:42:57 | 0:43:01 | |
Thank you so much, Brian. I've had a great day. | 0:43:01 | 0:43:03 | |
It's been such a pleasure | 0:43:03 | 0:43:05 | |
and I've, erm, gone down memory lane in a big way, | 0:43:05 | 0:43:08 | |
and I've eaten loads of food. | 0:43:08 | 0:43:10 | |
Fantastic. | 0:43:10 | 0:43:12 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:43:12 | 0:43:13 | |
Nigel, thank you. | 0:43:13 | 0:43:14 | |
Can I take that home? Please. | 0:43:14 | 0:43:16 |