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Just before the Spanish Civil War, | 0:00:06 | 0:00:09 | |
the writer Laurie Lee tempted his readers with a promise of Spain. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:15 | |
He said, "You will drink harsh wines, feed on stews of beans, | 0:00:15 | 0:00:18 | |
"or perhaps nothing but bread and olives. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:22 | |
"You'll be entering a Spain few have seen, | 0:00:22 | 0:00:24 | |
"the Spain of the Middle Ages, passing through silence | 0:00:24 | 0:00:28 | |
"like an act of God, into regions of rock and pine, | 0:00:28 | 0:00:32 | |
"arriving finally at villages | 0:00:32 | 0:00:35 | |
"that appear never to have been visited, | 0:00:35 | 0:00:37 | |
"or that seem to have been waiting for you to come." | 0:00:37 | 0:00:40 | |
I'm in Extremadura. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:21 | |
This must be the tobacco-growing capital of Spain, | 0:01:21 | 0:01:24 | |
a country that still hangs on its love for cigarettes, | 0:01:24 | 0:01:27 | |
judging by the numerous smoke-filled cafes and bars I've been to on this trip. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:32 | |
I don't smoke myself but it did make me feel rather nostalgic. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:37 | |
Before I got here I thought Extremadura meant extra hard, | 0:01:37 | 0:01:41 | |
even tougher than La Mancha, but it doesn't mean that at all. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:45 | |
It means Extremadura, the area to the south beyond the Duero River. | 0:01:45 | 0:01:51 | |
And that was a sort of no-man's land between the Moors and the Christians, | 0:01:51 | 0:01:55 | |
and it was the area that the Christians were constantly pushing into, | 0:01:55 | 0:01:59 | |
and pushing the Moors further and further south. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:03 | |
And it's very sparsely populated. | 0:02:03 | 0:02:05 | |
In an area slightly larger than Switzerland there's only a million people, | 0:02:05 | 0:02:10 | |
and very little tourism. But looking out all around me at the moment | 0:02:10 | 0:02:14 | |
I think it's bound to get more popular and, of course, with the ham and all the other lovely produce, | 0:02:14 | 0:02:20 | |
great goat, I mean I love goat, you can't get it back in the UK. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:24 | |
It sort of has a feel that's slightly alpine in places | 0:02:24 | 0:02:29 | |
and then there's big open plains in other places - I think it's very attractive. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:34 | |
Apart from the Iberico ham, Extremadura is famous for | 0:02:36 | 0:02:40 | |
the chillies it grows by the million here in the La Vera Valley. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:45 | |
It's the most fertile part of central Spain. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:48 | |
It's one of the most famous imports from the Americas, | 0:02:48 | 0:02:53 | |
and it's hard to imagine the food here without the colour and the fire of pimenton. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:57 | |
Someone told me in La Mancha, where we've just come from, | 0:02:57 | 0:03:00 | |
"When you get to Extremadura and those fields of peppers, | 0:03:00 | 0:03:04 | |
"it'll seem like the fields are on fire, | 0:03:04 | 0:03:06 | |
"they're so intense with red," and indeed they are. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:11 | |
Just looking across there, you've got tobacco crops, those lighter green crops. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:16 | |
And over there you've got the drying sheds for them. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:19 | |
Both crops came from the Americas, as indeed did the conquerors of America. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:23 | |
The Conquistadors all came from Extremadura, | 0:03:23 | 0:03:26 | |
so there's a sort of symbionic relationship there. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:29 | |
But to me this is the most important flavour in Spain. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:32 | |
The first time I tasted pimenton, | 0:03:32 | 0:03:34 | |
which is what they make out of these peppers, | 0:03:34 | 0:03:37 | |
I just thought I've got to have more of that. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:39 | |
It is the flavour in chorizos, | 0:03:39 | 0:03:41 | |
it's the flavour in their soups, most of their stews and vegetable dishes, | 0:03:41 | 0:03:46 | |
and that is why I'm here, that is why I'm so excited to be here. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:51 | |
Making pimenton is back-breaking work. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:56 | |
All those freshly-picked chillies have to be smoked. | 0:03:56 | 0:04:00 | |
They say the discovery of pimenton was an accident long ago. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:04 | |
Apparently during cooking some chillies fell out of a pot by the fire, | 0:04:04 | 0:04:08 | |
and lay there un-noticed. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:09 | |
Once discovered, the cook ground the dried and brittle chillies | 0:04:09 | 0:04:13 | |
and put the powder into a soup and hey presto, a new flavour was born. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:18 | |
So they made this fire of home oak, and just lit it | 0:04:20 | 0:04:23 | |
and the smoke drifts up through these lathes of wood, | 0:04:23 | 0:04:27 | |
right through the peppers above, | 0:04:27 | 0:04:29 | |
and there's about a metre of peppers above. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:31 | |
And that dries and smokes for ten days, | 0:04:31 | 0:04:34 | |
and every two days they turn them over | 0:04:34 | 0:04:37 | |
so that every bit dries thoroughly, and that's the flavour of pimenton - | 0:04:37 | 0:04:42 | |
that sweet, smoky taste. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:45 | |
I've just got to see scenes like this and smell the smells. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:49 | |
It makes me want to cook. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:51 | |
And I'm so lucky to have this idyllic house | 0:04:51 | 0:04:54 | |
in the mountains of neighbouring Andalucia to do that. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:57 | |
I'm going to cook a simple, robust dish of lentils, | 0:04:57 | 0:05:00 | |
the sort of dish you'd find in bars and taverns all around these parts. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:05 | |
I'm looking for stones in my lentils, cos all the recipes say, "Look for stones in the lentils." | 0:05:05 | 0:05:10 | |
Haven't found any stones here, never found any stones. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:13 | |
But I suppose in theory I could break someone's tooth, so I'm looking. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:17 | |
But no stones here. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:19 | |
So into a large saucepan go the lentils | 0:05:19 | 0:05:23 | |
and enough cold water to cover them, and I'll leave them to cook. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:27 | |
Now, Serrano ham. It's a dry-cured mountain ham with lots of flavour | 0:05:27 | 0:05:32 | |
and it comes from the white pig, so it's much cheaper | 0:05:32 | 0:05:35 | |
than the famous Iberico ham that comes from the leaner, black pig. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:39 | |
Next garlic, lots of garlic. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:43 | |
While working on this whole head of garlic, | 0:05:43 | 0:05:47 | |
I read in a book recently about one of the Spanish kings in the 16th century, | 0:05:47 | 0:05:52 | |
one of the Alfonso's I think, | 0:05:52 | 0:05:54 | |
so disliked the smell of garlic and indeed onions, | 0:05:54 | 0:05:59 | |
that he forbade his courtiers from eating them, | 0:05:59 | 0:06:02 | |
and if they did, indeed, have it on their breath, | 0:06:02 | 0:06:05 | |
he'd ban them from the Court, | 0:06:05 | 0:06:07 | |
partly cos of the smell, | 0:06:07 | 0:06:09 | |
but also because garlic was associated with poor people. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:13 | |
Well, nowadays it's completely different. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:16 | |
I mean I can remember when I was little my parents saying, | 0:06:16 | 0:06:19 | |
"Oh, they smell of garlic," you know? | 0:06:19 | 0:06:22 | |
But now you smell garlic on somebody's breath and you think, "They like their food." | 0:06:22 | 0:06:27 | |
So the garlic I'll fry in olive oil until it softens. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:32 | |
The smell of garlic and hot olive oil is to my mind the smell of the Mediterranean. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:36 | |
Next onions, give them a stir and a moment to go transparent. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:42 | |
And then add some finely chopped carrots, | 0:06:42 | 0:06:45 | |
and let them soften for a few minutes. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:48 | |
We're ready now for the Serrano ham, | 0:06:48 | 0:06:50 | |
to imbue everything with its salty sweetness. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:53 | |
I just love cooking this Spanish food. | 0:06:55 | 0:06:59 | |
It smells so good, I mean I'm using lots and lots of pimenton | 0:06:59 | 0:07:03 | |
and thinking back to Extremadura, | 0:07:03 | 0:07:06 | |
going through those fields of red peppers, a sort of flame red, | 0:07:06 | 0:07:10 | |
and climbing up into the loft where they're smoking them, | 0:07:10 | 0:07:13 | |
and it's the same smell I'm getting now, it's just wonderful. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:18 | |
I've skinned and chopped up some tomatoes and put those in. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:22 | |
Look how that pimenton has changed the colour. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:25 | |
Now I pour in a generous glass of white wine for some acidity. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:29 | |
I do the same for a bolognaise sauce at home too. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:33 | |
Season well with salt and pepper, and strain off those lentils. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:37 | |
I've had various versions of this dish in Greece, France and Italy, | 0:07:37 | 0:07:41 | |
and it never fails, but I think the addition of pimenton | 0:07:41 | 0:07:44 | |
really transforms it into something memorable and very Spanish. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:49 | |
I've kept some of the juice from the lentils as it's a little bit dry, | 0:07:50 | 0:07:54 | |
so I'll just add a bit more of that. | 0:07:54 | 0:07:57 | |
I love this dish, it's so typical of Spanish cooking | 0:07:57 | 0:08:00 | |
because you're using really cheap and earthy ingredients | 0:08:00 | 0:08:05 | |
like lentils and carrots, | 0:08:05 | 0:08:07 | |
but you're using also just a small amount of things with lots of flavour | 0:08:07 | 0:08:11 | |
like the Serrano ham and the pimenton. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:14 | |
So a dish of humble lentils becomes something really quite special. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:18 | |
Trujillo is one of the most fabulous places I've visited on my travels. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:29 | |
This is my idea of Spain, this is what I had in mind | 0:08:29 | 0:08:32 | |
when I set out on that ferry all those weeks ago. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:36 | |
A town that hasn't been touched by the excesses of tourism, | 0:08:36 | 0:08:40 | |
a town happy with its place in history. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:43 | |
Many of the Conquistadors came from here in Extremadura. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:47 | |
They say it was because life was so hard, | 0:08:47 | 0:08:49 | |
they wanted to risk all and become adventurers, | 0:08:49 | 0:08:52 | |
Cortez, Balboa and Pizarro being the most prominent. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:57 | |
Pizarro came from this town and made it rich. | 0:08:57 | 0:09:00 | |
He really plundered South America. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:02 | |
For a while he was in Panama planning expeditions to South America, | 0:09:02 | 0:09:07 | |
he wanted to conquer Peru. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:09 | |
And there was him and a guy called Almagro and a priest, | 0:09:09 | 0:09:12 | |
and they called them in Panama, "the company of lunatics" | 0:09:12 | 0:09:16 | |
because they're mad, they're going to try and take over this whole Inca Empire, no way. | 0:09:16 | 0:09:22 | |
Two abortive attempts, then he came back to Spain and somehow | 0:09:22 | 0:09:26 | |
managed to convince the King, Charles I, to give him the money, to give him the backing. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:32 | |
So he finally set off to capture Atahualpa and the Incas | 0:09:32 | 0:09:36 | |
with 180 men. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:38 | |
But fortunately Atahualpa was in civil war with his brother | 0:09:38 | 0:09:42 | |
and they were killing each other in shed loads, | 0:09:42 | 0:09:45 | |
and he managed to get in, capture Atahualpa. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:48 | |
Then Atahualpa said, "I will buy my freedom," | 0:09:48 | 0:09:51 | |
and offered him a room full of gold. And Pizarro said, | 0:09:51 | 0:09:55 | |
"Fine, fine, fine," took the gold and garrotted Atahualpa. | 0:09:55 | 0:09:59 | |
He was an absolute bugger. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:03 | |
What I really like about making these programmes is, | 0:10:09 | 0:10:12 | |
obviously we have a bit of a schedule | 0:10:12 | 0:10:14 | |
and places to go, | 0:10:14 | 0:10:16 | |
but what I really like is just finding people by chance, | 0:10:16 | 0:10:19 | |
just as I did down in the square in Trujillo just now - | 0:10:19 | 0:10:22 | |
a New Zealand couple called Chris and Lindy who said, | 0:10:22 | 0:10:25 | |
"You've got to film this guy Victor. He makes really good migas, | 0:10:25 | 0:10:29 | |
"but he's got this really old allotment | 0:10:29 | 0:10:32 | |
"just under the castle walls." | 0:10:32 | 0:10:33 | |
And said, "There's none left like them." | 0:10:33 | 0:10:37 | |
I've just come up here and it's just wonderful | 0:10:37 | 0:10:40 | |
because he actually... | 0:10:40 | 0:10:41 | |
He's almost self-sufficient in fruit and vegetables, | 0:10:41 | 0:10:44 | |
and I sort of walked through into this sort of Aladdin's cave, really. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:49 | |
I mean, it's like the ultimate shed, | 0:10:49 | 0:10:51 | |
and he's now cooking these migas for me. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:54 | |
Migas are legendary in Spain, anyway. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:56 | |
After frying garlic and peppers, | 0:10:58 | 0:11:00 | |
Victor puts in strips of cured belly pork, | 0:11:00 | 0:11:03 | |
and through an interpreter, I asked him about his love of cooking, | 0:11:03 | 0:11:07 | |
where did it come from? | 0:11:07 | 0:11:09 | |
Amazingly, he said that he was left alone | 0:11:09 | 0:11:12 | |
when he was only a little boy of seven-years-old, | 0:11:12 | 0:11:15 | |
because his parents had to move cattle | 0:11:15 | 0:11:18 | |
to the cooler lands further north. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:20 | |
They went away for weeks at a time, he had to look after himself, | 0:11:20 | 0:11:25 | |
and it became necessary to cook things, | 0:11:25 | 0:11:27 | |
like migas and patatas bravas and other simple dishes. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:31 | |
He also puts in chorizo, | 0:11:32 | 0:11:35 | |
and soon, these strips of belly pork are cooked. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:38 | |
Now, the main point of this dish, the breadcrumbs. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:41 | |
He splashed them with water | 0:11:41 | 0:11:43 | |
and they go into the oil which has been flavoured by all that garlic, | 0:11:43 | 0:11:47 | |
peppers, chorizo - | 0:11:47 | 0:11:48 | |
all the strong flavours of Spain. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:52 | |
What I like is the fact that he's got, | 0:11:52 | 0:11:54 | |
in addition to those peppers, and of course, they're local pimenton peppers, | 0:11:54 | 0:11:58 | |
lots of garlic, you never would have put as much in, lots of olive oil, | 0:11:58 | 0:12:02 | |
and then, really fat belly pork and lots of spicy chorizo. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:06 | |
It's that combination, I wouldn't have got it. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:09 | |
Also, I got the breadcrumbs too small, they are quite chunky. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:12 | |
They're not really breadcrumbs, they're just bits of cut-up bread. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:16 | |
I can't wait to try it. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:18 | |
This is the food of the poor, | 0:12:19 | 0:12:21 | |
and like many dishes, it originated with the shepherds ages ago. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:25 | |
Even Cervantes wrote about the joys of migas, | 0:12:25 | 0:12:28 | |
or "mijas" for the aficionados. | 0:12:28 | 0:12:31 | |
It's probably the oldest dish in the whole of Spain. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:34 | |
This is Chris and Lindy who I met down in the square | 0:12:35 | 0:12:38 | |
and put me on to this. I must say, I'm very pleased, it looks great. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:41 | |
It's a shame that most of us has lost the use of bread, isn't it? | 0:12:41 | 0:12:46 | |
It's sort of, always regarded as a sort of, a bit of an ancillary, | 0:12:46 | 0:12:50 | |
whereas to the Spanish, | 0:12:50 | 0:12:51 | |
it's absolutely the centre of their cooking. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:54 | |
I was really surprised to see you down there, | 0:12:54 | 0:12:57 | |
because, you know, it seems so, sort of, remote here. | 0:12:57 | 0:13:00 | |
I mean, erm... What brings you so far away | 0:13:00 | 0:13:03 | |
from the normal tourist track, then? | 0:13:03 | 0:13:05 | |
For most people who live in other countries, | 0:13:05 | 0:13:08 | |
they think of Spain as being a bit like a polo mint. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:11 | |
-There's lots around the costa... -That's very good, I must say. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:15 | |
-..but there's nothing in the middle. -A polo mint with... | 0:13:15 | 0:13:18 | |
There is... There is lots in the middle. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:21 | |
There's lots and lots of history, | 0:13:21 | 0:13:22 | |
Roman history, wonderful architecture, | 0:13:22 | 0:13:25 | |
wonderful people, and especially wonderful food. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:29 | |
Natural food. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:30 | |
I think that's one of the things, one of the many things... | 0:13:30 | 0:13:34 | |
I mean, the food here is wonderful. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:36 | |
Each week, we always go to the local market, | 0:13:36 | 0:13:39 | |
where the food comes from the surrounding area, | 0:13:39 | 0:13:43 | |
it's not brought in frozen, erm, | 0:13:43 | 0:13:46 | |
and then displayed. It's all fresh, most of it's been picked that day. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:50 | |
HE SPEAKS SPANISH | 0:13:50 | 0:13:54 | |
'Victor told us what he used to eat | 0:13:54 | 0:13:57 | |
'when he was growing up round here, years ago.' | 0:13:57 | 0:14:00 | |
He was saying, when he was young, life was very hard, | 0:14:03 | 0:14:06 | |
they had food of the season, | 0:14:06 | 0:14:10 | |
but they would depend, really, on things like bread, | 0:14:10 | 0:14:15 | |
lentejas, which are lentils, | 0:14:15 | 0:14:18 | |
beans, tomatoes... | 0:14:18 | 0:14:20 | |
..verdura, which is things like pimientos, | 0:14:21 | 0:14:25 | |
and meat would be something that was very much a luxury. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:30 | |
-For meat, they would depend usually on hunting frogs. -Frogs? | 0:14:30 | 0:14:35 | |
Frogs - ranas, ranas, | 0:14:35 | 0:14:38 | |
-and also, at that time... -Lizards. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:41 | |
..lizards, which are lagartos, which are now a protected species. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:44 | |
I heard him say lagarto. I thought it sounded like, "Must be legumes." | 0:14:44 | 0:14:48 | |
-Yeah, so... -No, no, no, lizards. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:50 | |
Lizards and it would be, er, something very special, | 0:14:50 | 0:14:53 | |
if they had meat that had been hunted. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:57 | |
So, life, as I said, was extremely hard | 0:14:57 | 0:14:59 | |
and obviously, bread was a staple, | 0:14:59 | 0:15:02 | |
and that's where the idea of eating migas would have come from. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:05 | |
So, if you find yourself as a tourist in this delightful town, | 0:15:05 | 0:15:10 | |
and you can smell hot oil and garlic on the breeze, | 0:15:10 | 0:15:14 | |
it's well worth a look over the castle walls | 0:15:14 | 0:15:17 | |
to see if Victor's cooking migas. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:20 | |
Slightly at the other end of the social spectrum, | 0:15:25 | 0:15:28 | |
this is the Marques de Valdueza and his family. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:32 | |
But, like Victor, he grows his own wine, | 0:15:32 | 0:15:35 | |
makes his own olive oil and is basically self-sufficient. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:40 | |
His real passion, though, is his hunting estates, | 0:15:40 | 0:15:43 | |
what the Spanish call the dehesa. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:46 | |
This is erm, your hunting estate? | 0:15:47 | 0:15:49 | |
This is my hunting estate but I also have a lot of cattle. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:55 | |
-I have, er, cows. -Yeah. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:56 | |
Special native, autonomous breed | 0:15:56 | 0:15:59 | |
which is called Avilena-Negra Iberica. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:01 | |
We'll see them later on. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:03 | |
The pig is very important, | 0:16:03 | 0:16:06 | |
the swine, because we have the cerdo Iberico, the Iberian pig, | 0:16:06 | 0:16:10 | |
which is the one that produces the fantastic jamon Iberico, | 0:16:10 | 0:16:15 | |
and all the meat and things that are coming from these animals. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:20 | |
We have sausages and... We have all this type of things. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:25 | |
-The cork trees, the ones you see now with the orange colour... -Yeah. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:29 | |
Because we harvest the cork last June, | 0:16:29 | 0:16:34 | |
and then, they remain for some time, | 0:16:34 | 0:16:37 | |
orange and then, they become dark again. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:40 | |
Alonso's family have been in this area for nearly 400 years. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:48 | |
He insisted I take a look across the valley | 0:16:48 | 0:16:51 | |
to a place they once called home. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:53 | |
That belonged to my great-grandfather, | 0:16:53 | 0:16:56 | |
and when he died, he split the estate, | 0:16:56 | 0:17:01 | |
and this part of the estate and the castle, | 0:17:01 | 0:17:05 | |
went to the eldest son. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:07 | |
But I am very happy that I can see it without owning it. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:11 | |
-What, because of the upkeep? -Yes, it's very difficult to keep it. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:15 | |
-It's better to look at than own, isn't it? -Yes. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:17 | |
Just as a matter of interest, | 0:17:17 | 0:17:19 | |
cos I really like the food in Extremadura, but what... | 0:17:19 | 0:17:22 | |
You've been to Britain a lot of times - | 0:17:22 | 0:17:25 | |
-what do you think of our food? -I like it. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:27 | |
-You like it? -I like it. -Oh, my gosh, relief. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:30 | |
I like it very much. I think, er, it's probably... | 0:17:31 | 0:17:35 | |
I don't know why the British food | 0:17:35 | 0:17:38 | |
has not a good image in general, in Europe. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:41 | |
But for me, I mean, this in the many places I've been, | 0:17:41 | 0:17:44 | |
I can say it's excellent. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:46 | |
I think it's not always known, | 0:17:46 | 0:17:48 | |
if you heard the average Spanish, | 0:17:48 | 0:17:52 | |
that went on holidays to London, they think it's horrible, | 0:17:52 | 0:17:58 | |
but it's not true, I like it very much. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:01 | |
-Well, I'm very... -I always remember this small, er, small fish, | 0:18:01 | 0:18:05 | |
-called whitebaits. -Whitebait. -I love them. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:08 | |
-I love whitebait, too. -I love them. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:12 | |
And many other things, of course. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:14 | |
His black cattle are reared here in the cool months, | 0:18:17 | 0:18:21 | |
before the temperature goes through the roof. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:23 | |
Then, they're moved to cooler pastures, hundreds of miles north, | 0:18:23 | 0:18:28 | |
in a real-life cattle drive with cowboys, horses, chuck wagons, | 0:18:28 | 0:18:32 | |
the whole caboodle. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:34 | |
Because remember, the very first of the Wild West cowboys | 0:18:34 | 0:18:37 | |
came from here. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:39 | |
The Marquesa, his wife Isabel, was preparing lunch - | 0:18:42 | 0:18:46 | |
the famous Ajoblanco. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:48 | |
So, this is a typical summer soup? | 0:18:48 | 0:18:51 | |
It's a typical summer soup. Never eat it in the winter. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:55 | |
Cos what I like about it, is it's very, very easy to make, | 0:18:56 | 0:19:00 | |
and virtually, just come in and make it almost for... | 0:19:00 | 0:19:03 | |
And another thing, you would never eat it in the north of Spain. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:07 | |
-It's something that's very typical of Extremadura and Andalusia. -Yeah. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:12 | |
-All this part. -Because you've got the almonds, you've got the... | 0:19:12 | 0:19:15 | |
Yes, because you have the ingredients, and also because | 0:19:15 | 0:19:18 | |
the heat is always very superior to the one in the north of Spain. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:23 | |
I love the chickens outside the window. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:26 | |
It's very erm, rural. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:28 | |
-Yes, this kitchen is very rural. -Isn't it lovely? | 0:19:30 | 0:19:33 | |
Isabel uses bread soaked in water, | 0:19:33 | 0:19:36 | |
garlic, hence the name ajo, | 0:19:36 | 0:19:39 | |
ground almonds, olive oil, salt and vinegar, | 0:19:39 | 0:19:42 | |
and she has to make a couple of batches. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:44 | |
-This is also our own. -It's also your own vinegar? | 0:19:44 | 0:19:48 | |
-We did it at home. -Very good vinegar. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:51 | |
The key here is to make sure that it's silky smooth, | 0:19:53 | 0:19:56 | |
and that there are no lumps. | 0:19:56 | 0:19:58 | |
It's something so typical in all the Spanish kitchens in the summer. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:02 | |
When the tomatoes begin, or when the heat begins, | 0:20:02 | 0:20:07 | |
you have to cool yourself with some nice, juicy, cold soup. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:13 | |
So, you tend to do this and... | 0:20:14 | 0:20:17 | |
Where are...? Here. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:19 | |
And the almonds are something that is very popular in Spain | 0:20:19 | 0:20:23 | |
as you know, as in the Arab countries, also. | 0:20:23 | 0:20:27 | |
Isabel said that this was another dish | 0:20:29 | 0:20:31 | |
that came from the shepherds, centuries ago. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:34 | |
They had bread, oil, garlic, vinegar and loads of almonds, | 0:20:34 | 0:20:39 | |
but no fridge. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:41 | |
It's very nice, and it's very nice. It's got a lot of vinegar in it, | 0:20:42 | 0:20:46 | |
but it's balanced by the salt. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:48 | |
I love the grain of the erm, almonds in there, | 0:20:48 | 0:20:51 | |
-and the bread gives it a sort of silkiness. -That's right. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:54 | |
But it does need to be really cold, cos I can just see, | 0:20:54 | 0:20:57 | |
the colder it gets, the more satisfying it gets. | 0:20:57 | 0:21:00 | |
-It gets all the better if it's cold. -Yeah. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:03 | |
She puts in sweet grapes and then cools it in the fridge. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:07 | |
We've never really got used to cold soups at home. | 0:21:09 | 0:21:12 | |
OK, I know when it's really hot, we might make a stab at gazpacho, | 0:21:12 | 0:21:16 | |
but why not consider this silky, cold garlic soup on a really hot day, | 0:21:16 | 0:21:21 | |
with a chilled rose? | 0:21:21 | 0:21:23 | |
It makes such a refreshing and elegant change. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:27 | |
Virtually everything at the table including the wine is erm, is yours. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:31 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:21:31 | 0:21:33 | |
-And the water, of course. -Of course. -Even this has been done by me. | 0:21:33 | 0:21:37 | |
-Really? -Yeah. -Oh, my gosh. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:38 | |
I just wanted to ask you, | 0:21:38 | 0:21:41 | |
I mean, one of the reasons we're here in Spain filming, | 0:21:41 | 0:21:43 | |
is because there's been such a... | 0:21:43 | 0:21:45 | |
An upsurge in interest in Spanish cooking | 0:21:45 | 0:21:48 | |
with all those Michelin-starred restaurants. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:51 | |
What do you think... Why do you think it's happened? | 0:21:51 | 0:21:53 | |
What's suddenly spurred it all on? | 0:21:53 | 0:21:56 | |
I think the reason is that first, we have... | 0:21:56 | 0:22:01 | |
Because they are different... | 0:22:01 | 0:22:03 | |
The Constitution of Spain as a country, | 0:22:03 | 0:22:06 | |
we have very many different climates and weather, | 0:22:06 | 0:22:09 | |
so, I mean, many different foods to eat all over the country, | 0:22:09 | 0:22:14 | |
that we know, that was very good since many years ago. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:18 | |
But this was not known as, probably, the wine was not also known before. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:22 | |
Now, because... | 0:22:22 | 0:22:24 | |
I think first, we have very, very top quality chefs. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:29 | |
They are showing the rest of the world | 0:22:29 | 0:22:32 | |
that the Spanish food is very, very good food. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:36 | |
But for me, you don't need to go to these top, top quality chefs. | 0:22:36 | 0:22:40 | |
You can go in many restaurants all around Spain | 0:22:40 | 0:22:43 | |
and have a very, very common but very good quality food, too. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:47 | |
Well, I'd just like to thank you very much. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:50 | |
It's been a wonderful morning and wonderful lunch and erm, | 0:22:50 | 0:22:54 | |
here's to great Spanish produce, | 0:22:54 | 0:22:57 | |
which you seem to produce the whole lot! | 0:22:57 | 0:23:00 | |
-So, congratulations to... -Thank you. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:03 | |
Salut! | 0:23:03 | 0:23:05 | |
Do you do the glasses, too? | 0:23:08 | 0:23:09 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:23:09 | 0:23:10 | |
This is going to be the next. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:13 | |
I could easily get used to life in Extremadura. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
I imagine it was like Provence before Peter Mayle wrote his famous book. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:22 | |
And like Provence, Extremadura was heavily garrisoned by the Romans. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:27 | |
For all I know, this aqueduct was originally built by them. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:31 | |
Interestingly, the gladiator Maximus, | 0:23:31 | 0:23:34 | |
portrayed by Russell Crowe in the film, | 0:23:34 | 0:23:36 | |
came from this region. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:38 | |
But these are what makes Extremadura really special. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:42 | |
Very amiable creatures, piggies. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:47 | |
Was reminded of a quote from Winston Churchill who loved his pigs. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:51 | |
He said, er... | 0:23:51 | 0:23:52 | |
"Cat's look down on you, dogs look up at you, | 0:23:54 | 0:23:58 | |
"but pigs treat human beings as equals." | 0:23:58 | 0:24:02 | |
And that's what I think. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:04 | |
They're going about their business being pigs. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:06 | |
Actually, these black pigs used to be really rare | 0:24:06 | 0:24:10 | |
because the white, northern, European pig took over, | 0:24:10 | 0:24:13 | |
cos they grow much quicker and get much fatter, | 0:24:13 | 0:24:15 | |
but these have the flavour. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:17 | |
Once you've tasted it, you'll never forget it. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
It's up there with sort of caviar, | 0:24:20 | 0:24:22 | |
and other sort of world-class flavours, | 0:24:22 | 0:24:24 | |
and it's taking off. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:26 | |
I mean, people all over the world | 0:24:26 | 0:24:28 | |
are beginning to understand and crave Iberico ham, | 0:24:28 | 0:24:33 | |
and it's so good for this area. I mean, to tell you the truth, | 0:24:33 | 0:24:36 | |
I'd hardly heard of Extremadura before I started eating Iberico ham, | 0:24:36 | 0:24:42 | |
and then, when I started, I thought, | 0:24:42 | 0:24:44 | |
"This is special, I want to go to the place where it's produced," | 0:24:44 | 0:24:48 | |
and here I am. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:50 | |
And it's just lovely because they are free to range | 0:24:50 | 0:24:52 | |
and they do eat the acorns. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:54 | |
They start eating acorns now, | 0:24:54 | 0:24:57 | |
and by January, they'll have put on about 100-150 kilos. | 0:24:57 | 0:25:01 | |
That's how much they love their acorns. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:04 | |
There's a famous artisan ham factory called Maldonado's at Albuquerque, | 0:25:04 | 0:25:09 | |
that my friend and top Spanish chef Jose Pizarro said I'd have to see. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:13 | |
-Good Lord. -Look at that. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:15 | |
It's a place very close to heaven. | 0:25:15 | 0:25:18 | |
It's like a... It's like a cathedral of hams. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:22 | |
It's not a cathedral. This is the Vatican of ham. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:25 | |
Fair enough. Unbelievable! | 0:25:25 | 0:25:27 | |
-This is, 40,000 pieces of ham. -40,000? | 0:25:27 | 0:25:31 | |
What would that be worth, then? I mean, in terms of euros. | 0:25:31 | 0:25:34 | |
-Around, I will say, 8 million euros. -8 million euros. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:38 | |
-Yes, it's a lot of money. -It's a lot of money. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:41 | |
But it's worth it. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:42 | |
Jose, how would you describe the taste of Iberico ham? | 0:25:42 | 0:25:45 | |
I will say, that is a very difficult question. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:47 | |
It's something between saltiness, sweetness, | 0:25:47 | 0:25:50 | |
and then, the flavour from the nut, from the acorns, come into your mouth. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:54 | |
When you put the fat there, it just melts. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:57 | |
Which do you prefer - the fat or the lean? | 0:25:57 | 0:25:59 | |
I will say - a ham without fat is not ham. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:02 | |
You need the fat there. You know, it's the point. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:05 | |
When I saw people taking the fat out of the ham, it made me mad. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:09 | |
It's not right. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:10 | |
But these hams are... Not this one. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:13 | |
This one now, is almost one year cured. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:15 | |
-Right. -But when they sell, it's four years. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:19 | |
-They have been hanging here for four years. -Four years? | 0:26:19 | 0:26:23 | |
And this ham, when it's Iberico, | 0:26:24 | 0:26:27 | |
you can go until some of them, not all, until seven years. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:30 | |
But those are something unbelievable. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:33 | |
So, what... The most expensive... | 0:26:33 | 0:26:35 | |
Cos some are more expensive than others, then. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:38 | |
What would be the most expensive in euros? | 0:26:38 | 0:26:40 | |
These sell for £3,000 in London, one piece of ham. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:45 | |
£3,000! | 0:26:46 | 0:26:48 | |
But, I promise you, the value is right. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:52 | |
You are going to taste now, and you are going to be in heaven. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:56 | |
You see, the way he is cutting the ham right now, | 0:27:00 | 0:27:04 | |
and in the moment, he was beginning to cut, | 0:27:04 | 0:27:06 | |
and everybody was in silence, staring at him while doing that. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:10 | |
It seems to me like in the moment when you are in the church | 0:27:10 | 0:27:14 | |
waiting for the Body of Christ being consecrated, | 0:27:14 | 0:27:17 | |
-and everybody waiting for eating them. -I knew you were right. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:20 | |
-I told you - the Vatican! -Cathedrals, Vatican... | 0:27:20 | 0:27:23 | |
-It is a moment of great... -It's a ritual. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:26 | |
-Great significance. -Yeah. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:29 | |
-Rightly so. -It is really worth it, look at that. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:33 | |
I think you should have a try. | 0:27:33 | 0:27:34 | |
Do you like to put the bits in your tongue? | 0:27:34 | 0:27:37 | |
You will see how the fat just completely melts and disappears. | 0:27:37 | 0:27:41 | |
-Good. -Are you ready? -Oh, do you mind? | 0:27:42 | 0:27:45 | |
Sorry, I'm... | 0:27:45 | 0:27:46 | |
CHORAL MUSIC | 0:27:46 | 0:27:49 | |
-It is communion, it's taking the... -Yeah, yeah. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:51 | |
It's melted away on my tongue. | 0:27:51 | 0:27:53 | |
We are in the Vatican now. | 0:27:53 | 0:27:56 | |
It's so good. I mean, there's nothing like it. | 0:27:56 | 0:27:59 | |
When you taste it, you think you are in heaven. | 0:27:59 | 0:28:02 | |
It's like a religious experience, I hate to say it. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:04 | |
We went from the Vaticano to heaven. | 0:28:04 | 0:28:06 | |
And, talking of heavenly things, this, after Santiago de Compostela, | 0:28:07 | 0:28:12 | |
is one of the most holy places in the whole of Spain. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:16 | |
Well, this is the monastery of Santa Maria de Guadalupe | 0:28:16 | 0:28:19 | |
and it's rather important. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:20 | |
In fact, very important, gastronomically. | 0:28:20 | 0:28:23 | |
And the reason it's so important is because Queen Isabella, | 0:28:23 | 0:28:27 | |
who actually gave Christopher Columbus the money | 0:28:27 | 0:28:29 | |
to set off in three ships and discover the Americas, | 0:28:29 | 0:28:33 | |
had a palace next door. | 0:28:33 | 0:28:35 | |
And when he came back... Well, first of all, | 0:28:35 | 0:28:37 | |
he gave thanks to Santa Maria | 0:28:37 | 0:28:40 | |
for saving him on a very, very rough voyage back from the Americas, | 0:28:40 | 0:28:45 | |
but then he presented to Queen Isabella and Ferdinand, | 0:28:45 | 0:28:48 | |
a lot of the things that he'd found on his voyage. | 0:28:48 | 0:28:51 | |
I mean, it must have been absolutely fabulous. | 0:28:51 | 0:28:55 | |
Really, the thought of him turning up with all these exotic fruit and vegetables | 0:28:55 | 0:28:59 | |
that nobody had ever seen before - | 0:28:59 | 0:29:01 | |
tomatoes, peppers, potatoes, | 0:29:01 | 0:29:04 | |
and indeed, he brought some Native Indians | 0:29:04 | 0:29:06 | |
into the court, as well. | 0:29:06 | 0:29:08 | |
Really, you know, if you can conjure up that sort of image in your mind | 0:29:08 | 0:29:13 | |
it would have been a really significant point in history. | 0:29:13 | 0:29:16 | |
It's interesting to me that it's always shepherds | 0:29:18 | 0:29:20 | |
who find miraculous things. | 0:29:20 | 0:29:22 | |
In other words, the meek and humble. | 0:29:22 | 0:29:25 | |
For example, they found St James' bones | 0:29:25 | 0:29:27 | |
in a field now called Santiago de Compostela. | 0:29:27 | 0:29:31 | |
And here, also in a field, they found not bones, | 0:29:31 | 0:29:33 | |
but an incredibly old wooden Madonna, | 0:29:33 | 0:29:36 | |
which is the very core of the monastery at Guadalupe. | 0:29:36 | 0:29:39 | |
And thousands of worshipers every year come to pay homage to her, | 0:29:39 | 0:29:43 | |
not just from Spain, but from the world over. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:47 | |
Sometimes, I wish such miracles had the same resonance today, | 0:29:51 | 0:29:55 | |
but we live in cynical times. | 0:29:55 | 0:29:58 | |
I think it was most fitting | 0:30:05 | 0:30:07 | |
to have that ham on my last day in Extremadura. | 0:30:07 | 0:30:11 | |
Now, I'm moving south to the largest region in Spain, | 0:30:11 | 0:30:15 | |
and probably the most famous, certainly the sunniest. | 0:30:15 | 0:30:18 | |
A place associated with passion, flamenco, sherry and Carmen - | 0:30:18 | 0:30:22 | |
the city of Seville. | 0:30:22 | 0:30:25 | |
MUSIC: Prelude from Carmen by Georges Bizet | 0:30:26 | 0:30:30 | |
If I had to choose any city in the whole of Spain, | 0:30:31 | 0:30:34 | |
then it would be this one. | 0:30:34 | 0:30:36 | |
I think it's the most sensuous and seductive of anywhere I've been. | 0:30:36 | 0:30:40 | |
Maybe it's the intensity of the orange blossom. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:44 | |
Lord Byron said it was a city full of beautiful women, | 0:30:44 | 0:30:47 | |
as well as the sweetest oranges. | 0:30:47 | 0:30:50 | |
As a great fan of Bizet's opera Carmen, | 0:30:50 | 0:30:53 | |
it's come as a really pleasant surprise | 0:30:53 | 0:30:55 | |
to come here to the tobacco factory where she worked | 0:30:55 | 0:30:59 | |
and see how grand it is. | 0:30:59 | 0:31:01 | |
There's these friezes over there of natives smoking tobacco, | 0:31:01 | 0:31:04 | |
and the ships bringing the tobacco over from the Americas to Spain. | 0:31:04 | 0:31:09 | |
Of course, Carmen to me, is the sort of, I suppose, | 0:31:10 | 0:31:14 | |
every man should know a Carmen, | 0:31:14 | 0:31:16 | |
or have known a Carmen somewhere in their life. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:19 | |
Cos to me, she embodies that sort of like | 0:31:19 | 0:31:21 | |
dangerous female sexuality and it's so intertwined with Seville, really. | 0:31:21 | 0:31:26 | |
I mean, if you think of the flamenco and the heat, | 0:31:26 | 0:31:28 | |
and the bull-fighting and the toreadors and the... | 0:31:28 | 0:31:32 | |
All that sort of really serious romance, it's... | 0:31:32 | 0:31:35 | |
To me, Seville really is what Spain is all about. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:39 | |
I read that Lord Byron had the time of his life here, | 0:31:47 | 0:31:49 | |
mostly escaping from the amorous advances of his landlady, | 0:31:49 | 0:31:53 | |
which is where he got the inspiration to write his version | 0:31:53 | 0:31:58 | |
of the Don Juan legend, set here in Seville. | 0:31:58 | 0:32:01 | |
But this time, Don Juan isn't the great lover and pursuer of women, | 0:32:01 | 0:32:05 | |
but a man easily seduced. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:08 | |
And while we're on the subject of romance, | 0:32:08 | 0:32:11 | |
it's never too far away in Seville. | 0:32:11 | 0:32:14 | |
I expect it's in the guide books, but just walking across this bridge, | 0:32:16 | 0:32:20 | |
across the Guadalquivir River and just saw all these padlocks here. | 0:32:20 | 0:32:24 | |
I was thinking, "Oh, maybe it's to tie up bicycles," but erm... | 0:32:24 | 0:32:27 | |
Then I started looking at them and they've all got names on them | 0:32:27 | 0:32:30 | |
like Claudio and Sara, | 0:32:30 | 0:32:33 | |
and Christian and Angela, | 0:32:33 | 0:32:35 | |
and I'm thinking, "No, no, it's like a love tryst." | 0:32:35 | 0:32:38 | |
I mean, this is an incredibly famous spot here. | 0:32:38 | 0:32:41 | |
You've got a lovely view of the cathedral, | 0:32:41 | 0:32:43 | |
the famous river, the Triana, which is the flamenco quarter. | 0:32:43 | 0:32:47 | |
So, I think it's people, like, locking their love together in somewhere really special. | 0:32:47 | 0:32:52 | |
There's nowhere much more special than this in the whole of Spain | 0:32:52 | 0:32:55 | |
because this is where Columbus arrived with his three boats | 0:32:55 | 0:32:59 | |
and unloaded all those things that we now take for granted, | 0:32:59 | 0:33:02 | |
like peppers, tomatoes, potatoes and loads of gold and silver. | 0:33:02 | 0:33:06 | |
I suppose you could say this is where the wealth of Spain | 0:33:06 | 0:33:09 | |
in the 15th and 16th century - this is where it all came from. | 0:33:09 | 0:33:13 | |
Shortly after Columbus came back from the Americas, | 0:33:17 | 0:33:20 | |
little cafe's called antigua abaceria's | 0:33:20 | 0:33:23 | |
opened here in Seville, and they still exist. | 0:33:23 | 0:33:26 | |
They sold dishes made from the newfangled vegetables | 0:33:26 | 0:33:28 | |
discovered in the New World. | 0:33:28 | 0:33:30 | |
This one is run by a very hard-working chap called Ramon. | 0:33:30 | 0:33:35 | |
I'm here with a friend of mine, Frank Camorra, | 0:33:35 | 0:33:38 | |
a famous chef in Australia, but he also happens to be Spanish. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:42 | |
I've just been watching Ramon here. | 0:33:42 | 0:33:44 | |
He just like... He's doing everything. | 0:33:44 | 0:33:46 | |
I mean, he's taking orders, he's taking dishes out to the customers, | 0:33:46 | 0:33:50 | |
he's doing a bit of plate washing and he's cooking all the food. | 0:33:50 | 0:33:55 | |
I mean, I cannot believe what he's turning out | 0:33:55 | 0:33:58 | |
on just two little hot tops like that. | 0:33:58 | 0:34:02 | |
I mean, when you think about it, do we need all the chefs? | 0:34:03 | 0:34:06 | |
I mean, my mind's going over like a calculator. | 0:34:06 | 0:34:09 | |
I'm thinking, "I don't know, maybe we got it wrong." | 0:34:09 | 0:34:13 | |
See? See what I mean? He's taking that stuff out, as well. | 0:34:13 | 0:34:17 | |
I didn't see a menu. | 0:34:17 | 0:34:19 | |
Frank and I just asked Ramon to bring on the food. | 0:34:19 | 0:34:23 | |
It was softened sweet peppers adorned with crumbled egg, | 0:34:23 | 0:34:25 | |
onions and a dressing of vinegar and good olive oil. | 0:34:25 | 0:34:28 | |
Then potatoes, which had been gently cooked in oil. | 0:34:28 | 0:34:31 | |
Remember, this would have been a mind-blowing dish 400 years ago - | 0:34:34 | 0:34:38 | |
the first potatoes in Europe. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:40 | |
Now, Ramon puts in some clams and a handful of parsley, | 0:34:41 | 0:34:45 | |
then on goes the lid, so the clams will open more quickly | 0:34:45 | 0:34:48 | |
and share their lovely salty juice over the potatoes. | 0:34:48 | 0:34:52 | |
I can't believe it when I'm looking around and thinking, | 0:34:52 | 0:34:56 | |
"This was here in the 17th, 16th century." | 0:34:56 | 0:34:58 | |
Mind you, it does look old enough. | 0:34:58 | 0:35:01 | |
I mean, look at... Peppers. I mean, fab, don't you think? | 0:35:01 | 0:35:04 | |
It's amazing to think that, you know, all this, | 0:35:04 | 0:35:07 | |
all these ingredients that we just take for granted | 0:35:07 | 0:35:10 | |
didn't exist before then. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:12 | |
So, I mean, how did people cook food? | 0:35:12 | 0:35:14 | |
How would you go without a tomato, a red pepper and a potato? | 0:35:14 | 0:35:18 | |
You know, what do we do as cooks? | 0:35:18 | 0:35:20 | |
I mean, what did we cook? I mean, it's unbelievable. | 0:35:20 | 0:35:23 | |
-Well, all this, the potatoes particularly, and this... -Yeah. | 0:35:23 | 0:35:27 | |
It just seems to... I mean, it's lovely food, | 0:35:27 | 0:35:30 | |
and it's what you expect in Spain. | 0:35:30 | 0:35:32 | |
It's sort of really rugged, there's no, like, finesse about it, | 0:35:32 | 0:35:36 | |
but it's all about the quality of the ingredients. | 0:35:36 | 0:35:39 | |
It is. To me, I mean, that's what Spanish food's about. | 0:35:39 | 0:35:42 | |
It's about, you know, the ingredient being centre stage, | 0:35:42 | 0:35:45 | |
you know, the food is pretty straightforward. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:48 | |
It's all about, you've got this fantastic ingredient, | 0:35:48 | 0:35:51 | |
don't get in the way of it, don't let the customer not enjoy it. | 0:35:51 | 0:35:54 | |
As chefs, we've got to sometimes pull back. | 0:35:54 | 0:35:56 | |
-I love the way that Ramon just plonks the stuff down on the table. -Yeah. | 0:35:56 | 0:36:00 | |
That's it. None of this sort of like, | 0:36:00 | 0:36:02 | |
fiddling around with gels and foams and all that. | 0:36:02 | 0:36:05 | |
I mean, what do you think about people like Ferran Adria | 0:36:05 | 0:36:08 | |
and Arzak and all the rest of them? | 0:36:08 | 0:36:10 | |
I mean, they've got all these stars but... | 0:36:10 | 0:36:12 | |
Erm, look, I think that they can be married together with... | 0:36:12 | 0:36:16 | |
When it's done really well. | 0:36:16 | 0:36:17 | |
I think ingredients are always first place. | 0:36:17 | 0:36:20 | |
I think even if you ask chefs that are really into that style of cooking that, | 0:36:20 | 0:36:24 | |
even for them, the ingredient is a centrepiece. | 0:36:24 | 0:36:26 | |
But sometimes, I'd much rather chew a red pepper than smell one, | 0:36:26 | 0:36:31 | |
or, erm, drink one through a straw, you know what I mean? | 0:36:31 | 0:36:35 | |
Like, to me, the act of eating and chewing - it's basic. | 0:36:35 | 0:36:38 | |
So, I'd rather eat the real thing than a deconstructed version. | 0:36:38 | 0:36:43 | |
It's so sort of, argh! | 0:36:43 | 0:36:45 | |
It's so sort of powerful and sort of macho and... | 0:36:45 | 0:36:49 | |
Gutsy food, full of flavour, and best when it's eaten hot. | 0:36:49 | 0:36:53 | |
All right, let's get on with it. | 0:36:53 | 0:36:54 | |
I'm very keen on these clams, actually. | 0:36:54 | 0:36:58 | |
Potatoes and clams, a simple little dish for lunch. | 0:36:58 | 0:37:02 | |
It really worked and no doubt has done for years. | 0:37:02 | 0:37:06 | |
Well, apparently, the first potatoes ever sold in Europe | 0:37:08 | 0:37:11 | |
were sold on the cathedral steps here in Seville. | 0:37:11 | 0:37:15 | |
The cathedral's built on the site of the old mosque | 0:37:15 | 0:37:17 | |
and the only thing that's left is the minaret - the Giralda, | 0:37:17 | 0:37:20 | |
which they now use as a bell tower. | 0:37:20 | 0:37:22 | |
Nice sort of mixing of Catholic and Moorish. | 0:37:22 | 0:37:25 | |
But when they built this, | 0:37:25 | 0:37:28 | |
this is the biggest Gothic cathedral in the world, | 0:37:28 | 0:37:31 | |
and at the time, they said, | 0:37:31 | 0:37:33 | |
"Let us build a building such as posterity will think we were mad." | 0:37:33 | 0:37:37 | |
Second after cathedrals for me are markets. | 0:37:42 | 0:37:45 | |
This one in Seville is particularly special. | 0:37:45 | 0:37:48 | |
You'll find out why in a minute, | 0:37:48 | 0:37:50 | |
but in Spain, no matter how far away from the sea you find yourself, | 0:37:50 | 0:37:54 | |
the fish is always spanking fresh, always. | 0:37:54 | 0:37:58 | |
I think, actually, when I'm looking at a fish counter like this | 0:37:58 | 0:38:02 | |
or a seafood counter, it's like, as the Cornish say, | 0:38:02 | 0:38:04 | |
"I belong to be here," | 0:38:04 | 0:38:06 | |
you know, because it just makes me so happy. | 0:38:06 | 0:38:09 | |
I know I'm a bit pathetic. There's always something new and interesting. | 0:38:09 | 0:38:13 | |
You know, you start by looking at some squid like that | 0:38:13 | 0:38:16 | |
and I can tell you, they are so fresh they're almost alive. | 0:38:16 | 0:38:19 | |
I was just looking at this bag here, and saying, "Well, what are those?" | 0:38:19 | 0:38:22 | |
I was asking Antonio, who owns this stall, | 0:38:22 | 0:38:26 | |
and he said, "They're anemones," and you just fry them in a pan. | 0:38:26 | 0:38:29 | |
Apparently, they're really good when they're crisp like that. | 0:38:29 | 0:38:32 | |
And sea snails - I can't remember what these are called, | 0:38:32 | 0:38:35 | |
but he was telling me that you pick one out with the spike of the other. | 0:38:35 | 0:38:40 | |
Lovely stuff. | 0:38:40 | 0:38:41 | |
What's really good is Antonio's got this restaurant | 0:38:41 | 0:38:44 | |
just across the alley here, | 0:38:44 | 0:38:45 | |
and I suppose, if you run out of something, | 0:38:45 | 0:38:48 | |
he comes and gets some more, but as a customer, | 0:38:48 | 0:38:51 | |
you come along here and you look at all this lovely fish, | 0:38:51 | 0:38:54 | |
and there's his restaurant - well, you've got to go in there and eat it. | 0:38:54 | 0:38:57 | |
MUSIC: Toreador from Carmen by Georges Bizet | 0:38:57 | 0:39:02 | |
These dark morsels are the sea anemones I saw earlier. | 0:39:05 | 0:39:08 | |
They're simply tossed in this flour, which is very grainy, | 0:39:08 | 0:39:12 | |
almost like semolina. | 0:39:12 | 0:39:14 | |
Then, they're quickly cooked in less than a minute, | 0:39:15 | 0:39:18 | |
and straight out to the customer. | 0:39:18 | 0:39:21 | |
They have a sweet iodine-y taste, a taste of the sea. | 0:39:21 | 0:39:25 | |
But have a look at these beauties - wow! | 0:39:25 | 0:39:28 | |
These are called carabineros. | 0:39:28 | 0:39:30 | |
They look as if they've been cooked already. | 0:39:30 | 0:39:32 | |
They go straight onto the plancha with sea salt, | 0:39:32 | 0:39:35 | |
and then, the chef adorns them with a ladle of fish stock | 0:39:35 | 0:39:38 | |
to keep them nice and moist, while the temperature increases. | 0:39:38 | 0:39:42 | |
They're turned, and in another minute, | 0:39:42 | 0:39:44 | |
they are cooked to the point of perfection. | 0:39:44 | 0:39:47 | |
Thank you! | 0:39:47 | 0:39:48 | |
That's it, a real taste of the Med, | 0:39:48 | 0:39:50 | |
and out they go to an extremely lucky diner - me. | 0:39:50 | 0:39:55 | |
It's a fabulous prawn, this. | 0:39:57 | 0:39:58 | |
It has a sort of intensity of flavour. | 0:39:58 | 0:40:01 | |
I was just talking to some people about these prawns, | 0:40:01 | 0:40:04 | |
and they were saying like, 15, 20 years ago, | 0:40:04 | 0:40:07 | |
nobody wanted to touch them. | 0:40:07 | 0:40:09 | |
They were used as bait for fishing, and you just think, "Well, why?" | 0:40:09 | 0:40:13 | |
I mean, this is like, the most intense flavour | 0:40:13 | 0:40:16 | |
and they're more intensely, sweetly flavoured than lobster themselves. | 0:40:16 | 0:40:21 | |
You think, "How could that be?" I don't know. | 0:40:21 | 0:40:23 | |
But for me, it's a totally, totally wonderful new seafood sensation. | 0:40:23 | 0:40:30 | |
With memories of that market in mind, | 0:40:30 | 0:40:33 | |
I'm cooking a dish, common all along the Andalucian coast. | 0:40:33 | 0:40:38 | |
You need two or three varieties of fish for this, | 0:40:38 | 0:40:41 | |
chosen for their colour and absolute freshness, | 0:40:41 | 0:40:44 | |
as well as some squid and some prawns. | 0:40:44 | 0:40:47 | |
I'm filleting red mullet - | 0:40:47 | 0:40:49 | |
perfect because it has lots of flavour and is dead easy to fillet. | 0:40:49 | 0:40:53 | |
Well, this is crisp, fried fish, Malaga style, | 0:40:53 | 0:40:56 | |
and when I first had it, the fish were quite small, | 0:40:56 | 0:40:59 | |
and I just thought, "I can't be frying tiny fish like that." | 0:40:59 | 0:41:02 | |
I'm not even sure if it is illegal | 0:41:02 | 0:41:04 | |
to catch tiny red mullet or hake out of the Mediterranean. | 0:41:04 | 0:41:07 | |
It's probably not, but it upsets people. | 0:41:07 | 0:41:10 | |
So, what I thought was, take some small-ish fish, | 0:41:10 | 0:41:13 | |
and cut them up into either little steaks or little fillets. | 0:41:13 | 0:41:16 | |
Well, the object of this dish is to present a plate | 0:41:16 | 0:41:20 | |
of crisply fried fillets, | 0:41:20 | 0:41:22 | |
but in bite-size pieces with just a slice of lemon. | 0:41:22 | 0:41:25 | |
I'm using hake, Spain's favourite fish, | 0:41:27 | 0:41:30 | |
and squid cut into rings, which will look very Spanish. | 0:41:30 | 0:41:34 | |
I hate it these days when a lot of fish shops, | 0:41:35 | 0:41:38 | |
you just buy squid pouches, is what they call it. | 0:41:38 | 0:41:41 | |
They just seem never to use the tentacles | 0:41:41 | 0:41:44 | |
and I just love the tentacles. | 0:41:44 | 0:41:45 | |
They've got great texture, lovely flavour. | 0:41:45 | 0:41:48 | |
It's a bit like serving up scallops without the roe. | 0:41:48 | 0:41:51 | |
I floured everything in one of these natty little sliding boxes, | 0:41:53 | 0:41:55 | |
which I think are so clever. | 0:41:55 | 0:41:58 | |
Then, in seriously hot olive oil, I'll fry them for less then a minute, | 0:41:58 | 0:42:02 | |
moving them around in the oil to keep them separate. | 0:42:02 | 0:42:05 | |
Interestingly, if you listen closely enough, | 0:42:05 | 0:42:08 | |
you can hear the change of sound as they crisp up. | 0:42:08 | 0:42:11 | |
You'll probably have noticed I've actually put the fish in two stages, | 0:42:15 | 0:42:19 | |
and the reason for that is, | 0:42:19 | 0:42:21 | |
if you put too much fish into the fryer in one go, | 0:42:21 | 0:42:23 | |
it just drops the temperature of the oil | 0:42:23 | 0:42:25 | |
so you don't get really crisp fish. | 0:42:25 | 0:42:28 | |
So, just imagine, you're on holiday by the sea | 0:42:28 | 0:42:31 | |
and anticipating supper, | 0:42:31 | 0:42:32 | |
which won't be ready for an hour or so. | 0:42:32 | 0:42:35 | |
Well, it is Spain. | 0:42:35 | 0:42:36 | |
Pour a glass of ice cold Manzanilla, | 0:42:36 | 0:42:39 | |
sit back and admire the sunset with this, | 0:42:39 | 0:42:42 | |
a real bite of the sea. | 0:42:42 | 0:42:44 | |
It's Saturday night. It's Seville. | 0:42:49 | 0:42:51 | |
Although there are a lot of people, it's unthreatening. | 0:42:51 | 0:42:55 | |
Being Seville, | 0:42:55 | 0:42:57 | |
I had to go to the most authentic flamenco bar I could find. | 0:42:57 | 0:43:01 | |
Not one where all the tourists turn up in buses, | 0:43:01 | 0:43:04 | |
but one tucked away where the true aficionados of flamenco go. | 0:43:04 | 0:43:08 | |
My God, it's cramped. | 0:43:08 | 0:43:10 | |
FLAMENCO MUSIC | 0:43:12 | 0:43:15 | |
'I haven't a clue, not the slightest, of what is being sung. | 0:43:34 | 0:43:37 | |
'It could be about a lost love or a lost cat. | 0:43:37 | 0:43:41 | |
'But I do know that flamenco is purely about melancholy, | 0:43:41 | 0:43:45 | |
'tragedy mixed with fury and passion.' | 0:43:45 | 0:43:48 | |
HE SINGS IN SPANISH | 0:43:48 | 0:43:51 | |
The singer and dancer both take risks | 0:44:00 | 0:44:03 | |
that expose their true, inner-most feelings, | 0:44:03 | 0:44:06 | |
and when that happens, the audience shout, "Ole," | 0:44:06 | 0:44:09 | |
to show they've been touched by duende. | 0:44:09 | 0:44:11 | |
Seville is a city of the night. | 0:44:27 | 0:44:30 | |
They don't eat dinner till way after ten, | 0:44:30 | 0:44:32 | |
and any good evening here, starts with the all-important tapas. | 0:44:33 | 0:44:37 | |
Well, there's no doubt that tapas came from this part of Spain, | 0:44:37 | 0:44:41 | |
and actually, this is the oldest tapas bar in Spain, | 0:44:41 | 0:44:45 | |
founded in 1670. | 0:44:45 | 0:44:47 | |
It's probably worth mentioning how tapas came... | 0:44:47 | 0:44:50 | |
The word where it came from. | 0:44:50 | 0:44:52 | |
And you can imagine, this is... | 0:44:52 | 0:44:54 | |
In Seville, is really dusty and hot in the summer, | 0:44:54 | 0:44:57 | |
and they just used to serve, obviously glasses of sherry and wine, | 0:44:57 | 0:45:01 | |
with a little cover which might be a bit of bread. | 0:45:01 | 0:45:03 | |
And it was like the top, a tapas, and it grew from that. | 0:45:03 | 0:45:07 | |
To start with, just to cover it, then you'd start eating it, | 0:45:07 | 0:45:10 | |
then you'd get a bit on top of the bread, | 0:45:10 | 0:45:12 | |
and so, it became the tapas that we know and love today. | 0:45:12 | 0:45:16 | |
I've come to meet Roger Davies, | 0:45:17 | 0:45:19 | |
a Welshman who fell in love with Andalucia and its food, | 0:45:19 | 0:45:23 | |
and now lives here full-time. | 0:45:23 | 0:45:25 | |
By far the most popular drink in pretty much all the tapas bars here is fino - | 0:45:27 | 0:45:33 | |
a refreshingly cold, dry sherry. | 0:45:33 | 0:45:36 | |
-Here you go. -Cheers, Roger. | 0:45:36 | 0:45:39 | |
-Perfect drink in a tapas bar. -Yeah, yeah. | 0:45:39 | 0:45:41 | |
-Lovely tapas bar. -Fantastic place. -Is this your favourite? | 0:45:41 | 0:45:44 | |
It's definitely... I'd say one of my favourites. | 0:45:44 | 0:45:47 | |
I mean, it's fantastic. I mean, look at these hams here. | 0:45:47 | 0:45:50 | |
-I know. -You know, they've been buying... | 0:45:50 | 0:45:53 | |
The grandfather of the people who run it now, | 0:45:53 | 0:45:57 | |
started buying these hams from the grandfather | 0:45:57 | 0:46:00 | |
of the owner of the ham factory in 1933. | 0:46:00 | 0:46:03 | |
So, they've been buying that for nearly 80 years, | 0:46:03 | 0:46:06 | |
they've been working with the same producer. | 0:46:06 | 0:46:09 | |
That's incredible. | 0:46:09 | 0:46:10 | |
What really makes Seville for you, then? | 0:46:10 | 0:46:13 | |
What is so special about it? | 0:46:13 | 0:46:15 | |
-Well, it's... I mean, look at the atmosphere here. People are... -Is this like a normal...? | 0:46:15 | 0:46:20 | |
Every Friday, Saturday night, it's like this. | 0:46:20 | 0:46:23 | |
Like, people like to be out. People like to enjoy themselves. | 0:46:23 | 0:46:27 | |
I mean, here, you can be at home, | 0:46:27 | 0:46:29 | |
a couple of friends call you | 0:46:29 | 0:46:31 | |
and in half an hour, you've got a party organised. | 0:46:31 | 0:46:33 | |
And you'd be like, how many... | 0:46:33 | 0:46:35 | |
Like, tonight, if you were with friends, how many tapas bars? | 0:46:35 | 0:46:39 | |
We'd probably go to four or five bars. | 0:46:39 | 0:46:41 | |
We'd come here, we'd have a drink, a few tapas, | 0:46:41 | 0:46:44 | |
and depending on what we'd want to eat, we'd go from one place to another. | 0:46:44 | 0:46:47 | |
-That's what doesn't work about tapas bars elsewhere... -You don't have enough. | 0:46:47 | 0:46:51 | |
-You need lots of them. -You have to be able to walk from one... | 0:46:51 | 0:46:54 | |
I mean, Seville has got more then 3,000 tapas bars. | 0:46:54 | 0:46:58 | |
Says it all, really, doesn't it? | 0:46:58 | 0:46:59 | |
If you want to eat cheese, you go to one bar, | 0:46:59 | 0:47:02 | |
if you want to have seafood, you go to another place. | 0:47:02 | 0:47:04 | |
This one's ham, presumably? | 0:47:04 | 0:47:06 | |
Yeah, here for ham, for a lot of traditional tapas. | 0:47:06 | 0:47:08 | |
Things like, er, spinach and chickpeas, | 0:47:08 | 0:47:13 | |
cheeks from the Iberian pig, | 0:47:13 | 0:47:14 | |
cod and tomato, they have superb cheese here. | 0:47:14 | 0:47:17 | |
I mean, absolutely brilliant. | 0:47:17 | 0:47:19 | |
Roger, I've just been to this flamenco bar, | 0:47:19 | 0:47:21 | |
-and I mean, it was absolutely very moving. -Yeah. | 0:47:21 | 0:47:24 | |
It was almost as if us and the singers were sort of like... | 0:47:24 | 0:47:28 | |
-Yeah, yeah. -And I've heard this word duende. | 0:47:28 | 0:47:31 | |
-Yeah. -What does it mean? | 0:47:31 | 0:47:32 | |
Duende is all about when the singer suddenly gets taken over | 0:47:32 | 0:47:36 | |
by some kind of spirit, some kind of passion, | 0:47:36 | 0:47:39 | |
and it's as if they... | 0:47:39 | 0:47:42 | |
They're sort of singing, but they've really... | 0:47:42 | 0:47:45 | |
Almost in a trance. | 0:47:45 | 0:47:47 | |
Also, when I was in that flamenco, | 0:47:47 | 0:47:49 | |
I just sort of felt that almost the audience were part of the show. | 0:47:49 | 0:47:53 | |
The audience get drawn in. | 0:47:53 | 0:47:54 | |
When there's duende, passion, | 0:47:54 | 0:47:57 | |
the audience get drawn into everything, they start clapping, | 0:47:57 | 0:48:00 | |
they start saying, "Ole". | 0:48:00 | 0:48:02 | |
It's like you become the dance yourself - you are part of it. | 0:48:02 | 0:48:05 | |
-Exactly. You're drawn right in. -That is really rare. | 0:48:05 | 0:48:08 | |
-It's like really good theatre. -Yeah, it's... Absolutely. | 0:48:08 | 0:48:11 | |
-It's almost you are part of the whole thing. -Exactly. -Fab. | 0:48:11 | 0:48:15 | |
-Exactly. -Very moving, actually. | 0:48:15 | 0:48:16 | |
I know, you're quite right, | 0:48:16 | 0:48:18 | |
what you felt there, was exactly as local people would say. | 0:48:18 | 0:48:22 | |
Let's have the ham. | 0:48:22 | 0:48:23 | |
I really like this place, and feel so lucky to have found it. | 0:48:23 | 0:48:28 | |
Amongst all the tapas bars in the world, | 0:48:28 | 0:48:31 | |
I had to walk into this one. | 0:48:31 | 0:48:33 | |
I love the way they keep tabs on what you've had | 0:48:33 | 0:48:36 | |
by writing it down on the bar. | 0:48:36 | 0:48:38 | |
This is living history. | 0:48:38 | 0:48:40 | |
This is the best ham that you can find anywhere in the world. | 0:48:40 | 0:48:44 | |
I totally agree with you. | 0:48:44 | 0:48:47 | |
-I like this sherry. -Fino, Manzanilla are just the perfect match. | 0:48:47 | 0:48:52 | |
they cut through the oiliness which comes form the acorns the pig eats. | 0:48:52 | 0:48:57 | |
That cuts through it completely, like no other wine. | 0:48:57 | 0:49:00 | |
This makes the ham taste better and the ham makes the drink taste better. | 0:49:02 | 0:49:06 | |
Exactly, exactly. | 0:49:06 | 0:49:07 | |
You've hit the nail on the head, it's just superb. | 0:49:07 | 0:49:10 | |
That was a fantastic evening, | 0:49:13 | 0:49:15 | |
and the next morning after a pretty long drive, | 0:49:15 | 0:49:18 | |
I found myself in the Alpujarras mountains south of Granada. | 0:49:18 | 0:49:24 | |
The crew wouldn't let me drive campy up here. | 0:49:24 | 0:49:27 | |
They had reservations concerning my driving skills, I cannot see why. | 0:49:27 | 0:49:33 | |
This place was immortalised by an English writer called Gerald Brenan, | 0:49:33 | 0:49:38 | |
who came here having lived through the horrors of the First World War. | 0:49:38 | 0:49:43 | |
He wrote a book called South From Granada | 0:49:43 | 0:49:45 | |
which turned out to be the inspiration | 0:49:45 | 0:49:47 | |
for the couple I'm going to see, Chris and Anna Stuart. | 0:49:47 | 0:49:51 | |
Chris was the first drummer in Genesis, | 0:49:51 | 0:49:54 | |
but more important than that, | 0:49:54 | 0:49:56 | |
he wrote an international best-seller | 0:49:56 | 0:49:59 | |
called Driving over Lemons, which I love, | 0:49:59 | 0:50:02 | |
about living up here and being self-sufficient. | 0:50:02 | 0:50:06 | |
I thought that was someone about to take a pot shot at me, | 0:50:06 | 0:50:10 | |
it's so far off the beaten track. | 0:50:10 | 0:50:13 | |
-Cheers. -You're welcome. -Hello, you must be Chris. | 0:50:19 | 0:50:23 | |
-And you must be Rick. -Hi, I'm Anna. | 0:50:23 | 0:50:27 | |
-It's a big moment this. -Really? | 0:50:27 | 0:50:29 | |
It's a bigger moment for us than it is for you, really. | 0:50:29 | 0:50:32 | |
-I brought you some gifts from La Mancha. -Oh, goody. | 0:50:32 | 0:50:35 | |
Well, people gave us loads of garlic, I mean loads of garlic. | 0:50:35 | 0:50:39 | |
-I'm sure you've got lots of garlic. -Not this year, no. | 0:50:39 | 0:50:42 | |
-Really? -Yeah, we've had a bad year. | 0:50:42 | 0:50:46 | |
That'll keep us going for a couple of weeks. | 0:50:46 | 0:50:49 | |
I hear you're going to do a sort of wild boar stew? | 0:50:49 | 0:50:52 | |
Yes, we are, Is that a nice, robust red wine? | 0:50:52 | 0:50:56 | |
Just the right thing for a wild boar stew. | 0:50:56 | 0:51:00 | |
I didn't realise it was going to be so far away. | 0:51:00 | 0:51:03 | |
I've read your book, and I loved it. | 0:51:03 | 0:51:06 | |
-Well, that's very nice. -See you later. -It is really remote. | 0:51:06 | 0:51:09 | |
Come on up, Rick. | 0:51:09 | 0:51:11 | |
-Wow, wonderful. -Welcome. -Is it still an idyll? | 0:51:11 | 0:51:15 | |
Well, it's sort of a flawed idyll. | 0:51:15 | 0:51:19 | |
We still love it, we love it more and more. | 0:51:19 | 0:51:21 | |
We have no regrets about coming to live here, but it's hard. | 0:51:21 | 0:51:25 | |
-I don't know if you saw the valley and the damage the river did. -Yes! | 0:51:25 | 0:51:29 | |
The river came raging out of that gorge in December, | 0:51:29 | 0:51:32 | |
took away all the vegetation, took away our bridge. | 0:51:32 | 0:51:34 | |
We were five months without a bridge. | 0:51:34 | 0:51:37 | |
But, it sounds a bit silly, we sort of like it that way. | 0:51:37 | 0:51:40 | |
It's nice to live next door to an untamed element. | 0:51:40 | 0:51:44 | |
Whereas most of our lives are circumscribed by security and comfort, | 0:51:44 | 0:51:50 | |
here things are a little bit different and we feed off that and really enjoy it. | 0:51:50 | 0:51:55 | |
Yet there's other things like the wild boar, | 0:51:55 | 0:51:57 | |
one of whom we're going to be eating for lunch. | 0:51:57 | 0:51:59 | |
The wild boar have destroyed the vegetable patch over and over again this year. | 0:51:59 | 0:52:03 | |
The foxes have killed our chickens so they're the flaws in our idyll, | 0:52:03 | 0:52:08 | |
but they're the sort of flaws that you can come to terms with | 0:52:08 | 0:52:11 | |
because there's something sort of raunchy and natural about it. | 0:52:11 | 0:52:15 | |
We like it that way. | 0:52:15 | 0:52:17 | |
Chris's lunch is going to start with a tabouleh made with bulgur wheat. | 0:52:17 | 0:52:22 | |
They call it "taboolay" down in Australia. | 0:52:22 | 0:52:25 | |
But today we'll have tabouleh I think. | 0:52:25 | 0:52:28 | |
What you do is you get the lemon, cut it in half, | 0:52:28 | 0:52:30 | |
and you squeeze it through your hand like this - | 0:52:31 | 0:52:35 | |
lemon squeezers are for wooses. | 0:52:35 | 0:52:37 | |
Nice you're using lemons because after all, | 0:52:37 | 0:52:40 | |
-I wouldn't want to see you cooking with anything but. -Absolutely not. | 0:52:40 | 0:52:44 | |
Lemons are a big part of our lives. | 0:52:44 | 0:52:46 | |
So where did you get the inspiration for Driving Over Lemons? | 0:52:46 | 0:52:51 | |
-It's a good title, isn't it? -Really good. | 0:52:51 | 0:52:54 | |
The book sellers say the important thing about a book | 0:52:54 | 0:52:56 | |
is the title and the cover. | 0:52:56 | 0:52:58 | |
The content is neither here nor there. | 0:52:58 | 0:53:01 | |
But it came because when you drove in through the village, | 0:53:01 | 0:53:04 | |
there's a lot of lemon trees overhanging the road, | 0:53:04 | 0:53:07 | |
and after a wind, when the lemons are ripe, | 0:53:07 | 0:53:09 | |
hundreds of them fall on the road, | 0:53:09 | 0:53:11 | |
it's like driving over a mat of lemons. | 0:53:11 | 0:53:13 | |
When I first came here I couldn't bring myself to drive over them, | 0:53:13 | 0:53:17 | |
because a lemon in a British supermarket | 0:53:17 | 0:53:20 | |
cost you about four bob, back in those days. | 0:53:20 | 0:53:22 | |
And so I would stop and go round each lemon | 0:53:22 | 0:53:24 | |
until somebody said, "Drive over lemons." | 0:53:24 | 0:53:27 | |
-Now I drive over lemons because there are just so many about. -Great title. | 0:53:27 | 0:53:32 | |
-You did crack it. -Yeah, I think it was a good title. | 0:53:32 | 0:53:35 | |
Chris was worried about stealing my limelight as a TV cook, | 0:53:35 | 0:53:39 | |
but I was overjoyed to watch somebody else do it. | 0:53:39 | 0:53:42 | |
He seasons the wheat with salt and black pepper, | 0:53:42 | 0:53:46 | |
and then chopped onion from their garden. | 0:53:46 | 0:53:49 | |
And now tomatoes. | 0:53:49 | 0:53:50 | |
He swears by these local tinned ones | 0:53:50 | 0:53:53 | |
because the wild boar can't get at these | 0:53:53 | 0:53:56 | |
and the fresh ones aren't in their prime yet. | 0:53:56 | 0:53:59 | |
So that's the tabouleh as she stands at the moment, | 0:53:59 | 0:54:02 | |
and we just let her sit around | 0:54:02 | 0:54:04 | |
and the bulgur wheat will absorb the juice from the tomatoes, | 0:54:04 | 0:54:08 | |
the onion and the lemon juice. | 0:54:08 | 0:54:10 | |
And then at the last minute before you serve it, | 0:54:10 | 0:54:13 | |
you chop up your mint and your parsley, | 0:54:13 | 0:54:15 | |
and then you drizzle oil all over the top of it. | 0:54:15 | 0:54:19 | |
If you're really lucky, you sprinkle it with pomegranates. | 0:54:19 | 0:54:22 | |
-Have we got some? -We can do that. | 0:54:22 | 0:54:24 | |
We live in pomegranate country. | 0:54:24 | 0:54:27 | |
Not only pomegranates but their own almonds, lightly toasted | 0:54:27 | 0:54:30 | |
and sprinkled with Pimenton, and then the peppers, | 0:54:30 | 0:54:34 | |
deep fried in olive oil and served with sea salt. | 0:54:34 | 0:54:38 | |
Here's a lovely salad with pine nuts, poppy seeds and edible flowers. | 0:54:38 | 0:54:43 | |
This is the life that his book describes | 0:54:43 | 0:54:46 | |
and I'm beginning to feel I'm part of it, | 0:54:46 | 0:54:50 | |
but first we start with a tabouleh with mint and parsley, | 0:54:50 | 0:54:53 | |
and those pomegranate seeds that shine like rubies. | 0:54:53 | 0:54:57 | |
You want a bit more? | 0:54:57 | 0:54:59 | |
-That's enough, that's fine. -Nice salad. | 0:54:59 | 0:55:01 | |
Chris, don't think I'm asking you a leading question, | 0:55:04 | 0:55:06 | |
but if you compare Spanish food with French food, | 0:55:06 | 0:55:10 | |
how would you describe Spanish food? | 0:55:10 | 0:55:13 | |
Much earthier, Spain is much earthier than France. | 0:55:13 | 0:55:15 | |
Everything about it is earthier. | 0:55:15 | 0:55:17 | |
And I think it's one of the best places in Europe to eat nowadays. | 0:55:17 | 0:55:22 | |
Rick, this is a bit different. | 0:55:22 | 0:55:24 | |
There's a lot of greenery on the top, pomegranates and peeled grapes. | 0:55:24 | 0:55:28 | |
We're trying to do you right. | 0:55:28 | 0:55:30 | |
What's underneath it is a wild boar. | 0:55:30 | 0:55:32 | |
We're getting our own back. These boars have been ravaging our vegetables | 0:55:32 | 0:55:37 | |
and our farm for the last six months, | 0:55:37 | 0:55:39 | |
and finally we managed to get one and put it in a pot and here it is. | 0:55:39 | 0:55:42 | |
And it serves it right. | 0:55:42 | 0:55:44 | |
It's very sort of "taginey". | 0:55:44 | 0:55:45 | |
It's fruit in there, grapes, or something cooked in there, | 0:55:45 | 0:55:48 | |
lots of spice, very dark. | 0:55:48 | 0:55:51 | |
That's the great thing with pig meat. | 0:55:51 | 0:55:55 | |
It sometimes looks a bit bland, but this doesn't. | 0:55:55 | 0:55:59 | |
Far from it, it's got some moscatel grapes in there. | 0:55:59 | 0:56:02 | |
and some black, black chocolate. | 0:56:02 | 0:56:05 | |
You can't do it without chocolate, really. | 0:56:05 | 0:56:08 | |
I've used it myself. It's Mexican. | 0:56:08 | 0:56:11 | |
-You've been to Mexico, haven't you? -I have. It works a treat. | 0:56:11 | 0:56:14 | |
So, just tell me this, thinking about Spanish friends and all that, | 0:56:14 | 0:56:18 | |
if you were told you had to leave Spain like tomorrow, | 0:56:18 | 0:56:22 | |
what would you most miss about living here and the whole life? | 0:56:22 | 0:56:27 | |
I'd miss the outdoor life, I just love it. | 0:56:27 | 0:56:30 | |
Because of the weather, everyone out on the streets, | 0:56:30 | 0:56:33 | |
everyone's so warm and welcoming, like London when the sun shines, | 0:56:33 | 0:56:37 | |
but here the sun shines a lot more. | 0:56:37 | 0:56:39 | |
And what about you? | 0:56:39 | 0:56:41 | |
Well, I feel the same as Annie in a lot of ways, she's right. | 0:56:41 | 0:56:45 | |
We've developed all this stuff together. | 0:56:45 | 0:56:47 | |
But to me I think the thing I'd most of all miss is orange trees, | 0:56:47 | 0:56:51 | |
to have your own oranges. | 0:56:51 | 0:56:53 | |
In 23 years, that's the most fundamental thing I've found | 0:56:53 | 0:56:56 | |
and there's lots of other things | 0:56:56 | 0:56:58 | |
that I love about the people here, about the cities, | 0:56:58 | 0:57:02 | |
about the architecture, the way of life and everything. | 0:57:02 | 0:57:05 | |
But if you want to pin me to the ground, | 0:57:05 | 0:57:07 | |
and say one thing, it's the orange trees. | 0:57:07 | 0:57:10 | |
-I'll drink to that. -Me too. -To the orange. -Yeah. -To the orange. | 0:57:10 | 0:57:15 | |
So then, while I'm at it, | 0:57:19 | 0:57:21 | |
I'd like to make a few toasts of my own to end this journey round Spain. | 0:57:21 | 0:57:25 | |
So I say cheers to Don Quixote and his faithful companion Sancho Panza. | 0:57:25 | 0:57:32 | |
Cheers to Valencian paella, cooked over orange wood. | 0:57:32 | 0:57:37 | |
Cheers to the magnificent cathedral of Santiago de Compostela. | 0:57:37 | 0:57:41 | |
And salut to the famous garlic soup of La Mancha. | 0:57:41 | 0:57:45 | |
Oh, and cheers to the wonderful black pigs | 0:57:45 | 0:57:49 | |
and thanks for the brilliant ham. | 0:57:49 | 0:57:52 | |
Cheers to Spain's fat, plump olives, bursting with oil, | 0:57:52 | 0:57:56 | |
and cheers to Ernest Hemmingway for capturing the passion of the country. | 0:57:56 | 0:58:02 | |
And here's to the wine which I love, and the famous Manchego cheese | 0:58:02 | 0:58:07 | |
and the wonderful springy bread that's served everywhere. | 0:58:07 | 0:58:12 | |
Here's to the people for their love of pageant and history, | 0:58:12 | 0:58:16 | |
and finally here's to the magic of duende. | 0:58:16 | 0:58:20 | |
Viva Espana. | 0:58:23 | 0:58:25 | |
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