18/06/2017 Saturday Kitchen Best Bites


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Good morning, I'm Matt Tebbutt and over the next 90 minutes

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we are going to serve up a seriously mouthwatering menu of

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culinary treats. So sit back, put your feet up and get ready

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for another helping of Saturday Kitchen Best Bites.

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Welcome to the show. Now, I hope you're ready for an irresistible line-up of top

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chefs, ready to serve up some of their finest feats

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for an array of famous faces who can't wait to get stuck in.

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Coming up on today's show, James Martin serves roasted pork

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fillet with chorizo and pepper sauce for Jason Donovan.

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Allegra McEvedy shows us a simple but tasty way to cook monkfish.

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She mixes herbs, spices with oil and couscous,

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and then seals in foil with a portion of monkfish.

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These are then baked before being served in the bag.

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Vivek Singh is here with a delicious take on lamb kebab.

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He serves kebab two ways,

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skewered and coated in chopped vegetables, and formed into burgers.

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These are char-grilled and then served with

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a green coriander chutney.

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And taking up the omelette challenge today are Anthony Demetre and

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Kenny Atkinson. And with neither on the board,

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they'll both be determined to deliver some edible omelettes.

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Then it's over to cookery writer Sophie Grigson,

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who's serving up a traditional Sardinian dish.

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She steams clams and serves with garlic,

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saffron and chilli fregula pasta.

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And finally, actress Cherie Lunghi faces her food heaven or her food hell.

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Did she get food heaven, mozzarella stuffed chicken with roasted

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tomatoes, aubergines and basil pesto?

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Or her food hell, gooseberry crumble with vanilla custard and ice cream?

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You can find out what she got at the end of the show.

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But first, it's over to Paul Rankin,

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who is serving up a simple summer salad.

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An absolute genius. I know him from Ready Steady Cook, it's of course Mr Paul Rankin.

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-It's the nicest you've ever been to me.

-Is it?

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Well, I'm not going to get you to sing, anyway.

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-No, no, don't, please don't.

-I watched that. We won't mention the singing bit.

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-So, tell us what you're making.

-It was good fun, I really had a ball.

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I would do that again in a heartbeat. Pleasure to do that.

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-Please don't. Gives my ears a rest.

-Summer salad Roscoff I call it.

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It's a summer salad, I used to do it at the restaurant quite a lot.

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-But it's basically a nicoise salad done with salmon.

-Lovely.

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And I do it poached, to keep it nice and light and fresh.

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First thing we're going to do is make a court-bouillon.

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-So I need a little bit of wine for that, James.

-A bit of wine.

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I can get that, that's no problem.

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-I'll get you a little bit of wine. Here you go.

-Thank you, sir.

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You see the way they've put that fridge there so that every time you go in there, they see your bum.

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Exactly. Thank you very much. He's started already.

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-They were looking, they were looking.

-Simon!

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For a court-bouillon... And here I've got a little bit of water.

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A good splash, good glug of wine in there. I've got some white wine.

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-Is that any wine, just any white wine?

-Any dry white wine.

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-Good.

-A little bit of vinegar going in there.

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Do you want me to get the fish out of the fridge?

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Oh, yeah, get me some fish out of the fridge. But a court-bouillon... A bouquet garni now.

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A little bit of parsley, a little bit of leek, celery, thyme,

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something like that.

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And it just goes in there to give it a lovely sort of savoury flavour.

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You've made it out of leeks and that sort of thing.

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-What do you think of the dried one?

-It's actually not a bad product.

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-I suppose it's a bit early for a glass of wine, is it?

-Not for you.

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-No. Oops.

-Have you broken my glass already?

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-That was a trick. He set me up.

-LAUGHTER

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-The old Irish thing.

-Got him, got him!

-I'll just have to take it from the bottle, then.

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-So...

-LAUGHTER

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It's going to be a great show.

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OK, lovely piece of salmon here. Yeah?

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I've kept the skin on, because the skin sort of protects it,

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keeps it moist while we're poaching it.

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-Right.

-Now, what I've done is I've chosen a pan where it's going to be

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a very tight fit. OK? So, in goes the salmon.

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And lots of salt in there. I always taste it.

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And the amount of salt in it should be almost like it's been

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poached in the sea, OK? So, lovely and salty.

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OK, I'm going to get my beans in. I'll just come to the other ingredients in a second,

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but the beans take a little while to cook. So, again, nicely seasoned.

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-French beans, yeah?

-Yeah.

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So, I mean, it's not really classic salad nicoise garnish,

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but a sort of summer salad garnish.

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-So, if you have time, perhaps you could...

-I knew I'd have to do something.

-..cut up the tomatoes.

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-Well, no such thing as a free lunch.

-Paul, can I ask you a question?

-Yes.

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Why has the salmon got to be in a small pot, why have you done that?

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-Well, what it does, it keeps the amount of liquid to a minimum.

-OK.

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So that you're not sort of diluting the flavour of it.

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Because, you know, you get that dilution of flavour.

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If you poached a cube of salmon in a big pasta pot,

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it sort of dilutes the flavour of it. So, it's to keep it nice.

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So you're just going to bring that to the boil. Which that is.

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Bring it to the boil, simmer it for a couple of minutes.

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And then I'm going to put a lid on it and put it to one side.

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Now, I let it cool down, but I don't put it in the fridge, OK?

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I always think, all these sorts of things...

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-Are you going to do those things?

-Sorry, I'm going as quick as I can.

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-No! No, those are lovely, lovely, perfect.

-What have I done wrong?

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No, I'm just teasing, just teasing. So...just fish these out.

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There you go. And what I'm going to do is, I'm just going to flake the salmon,

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-going to keep it really nice and casual.

-So, anyway, that's tomato.

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-What else do you want doing?

-Cucumber I need done.

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You know, this cucumber's from my garden.

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I picked this for you this morning.

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I suspected it might be from your garden.

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-Now, how much do you actually have to do with...?

-A lot, I do it all.

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-I do it all.

-What, show me your nails.

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He's such a fibber, you know.

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It's like, you can always tell a chef who works in the kitchen

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-by all the burns...

-Exactly, I know.

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And you can see how moist the salmon is just underneath the skin there.

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Now, what we do here...

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Now, this is simmered for a couple of minutes, so all I do, put on

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the lid, and then leave it to cool down in the liquid and it will continue poaching.

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-As I said...

-Taste that. Straight out of my garden.

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Look at that. What's wrong with it?

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-It is delicious.

-It is delicious.

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It's got a really vibrant flavour. So, nice big chunks of salmon.

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Nice, big, generous flakes. Want another job?

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Yeah, give me another job. What do you want? Make the dressing?

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What I want you to do is, what I've got here is some mayonnaise,

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a little bit of anchovy, a little bit of basil.

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We need to combine all those, so if you just crush the anchovy.

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-Crush the anchovy, yeah.

-Mix it with the mayo.

-Mix it with the mayo.

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-And the basil, yeah?

-And the basil.

-Lovely.

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-And that's our base for the dressing.

-So, I mean, you use salmon,

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but could you use white fish for this as well, I suppose?

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I think you can use virtually anything.

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And you don't have to poach it, you could char-grill it,

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or you could...pan-fry it, anything like that will work quite well.

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-Antonio's sat over there looking on.

-I'm salivating.

-Salivating.

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JAMES LAUGHS

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Now, one of my favourite things to put in a summer salad are boiled eggs.

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And what I do is, I boil them for about seven minutes.

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And like that, they stay beautifully sort of... They're cooked,

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but they're slightly soft in the middle.

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And that's the way I love them, with the yolks nice and bright.

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To me, it's all these little details that make the difference when

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you're cooking. Artichokes would be great with this. And basically,

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you can use anything in this salad that's kind of in season.

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What I particularly love are things like broad beans, new potatoes,

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things like that, which, you know, are absolutely delicious.

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-So, how's it looking, folks, so far? Emma, Simon?

-It looks good.

-Looking forward to tasting this?

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It looks ever so good, but we could do with a glass of wine.

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-Wine's coming, don't worry.

-I was trying to do that for you, Natalie.

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Right, what's going in this dressing now?

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Now, the only other thing we're going to do is just dilute it

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-a little bit with a little bit of the court-bouillon.

-OK.

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-So a little bit of this liquor.

-So about... About two tablespoons.

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CLANGING

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You're just destroying my kitchen already. It's only a day old!

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-So, it just makes it a little bit more... That's terrific.

-Season it?

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-I don't normally have these problems.

-Right. Seasoning?

-Yeah.

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And what we're going to do... Are these your salad leaves as well?

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-These are from my garden, salad leaves.

-Nice sprinkle of olive oil.

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-Lemon juice?

-A little bit of lemon juice, a little bit of salt and pepper.

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-And I'm going to start to build the salad.

-Start plating it up, there we go.

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-So...

-Fire away.

-A little bit of salt onto here.

-Yeah.

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A little bit of pepper for the tomatoes.

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Now, it's important when people season that, you're using the

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sea salt, not the table salt, because it's totally different flavour, isn't it?

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Yeah, I love the sort of fresh, the clean taste of a good sea salt,

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I think it makes a pretty big difference, actually.

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Perfectly cooked tomatoes, look at them.

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I've never seen a guy who can cook tomatoes like you.

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And be very casual with this. You know, we could just whack everything on top of that salad,

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it would be grand. You know, it can come off the plate a little bit.

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-Do you want some of these on as well?

-Yeah.

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Lovely. Simple food, that's the secret with this, isn't it, really?

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Is this sort of a lunchtime dish, you'd have this at lunchtime?

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I think it's very much a lunchtime dish.

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It's... It would be a lovely light supper dish, especially with new potatoes.

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You could serve them on the side, or tossed with

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a little bit of vinaigrette or mayonnaise or dressing.

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But the secret is to serve that salmon at room temperature, isn't it?

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I think everything kind of needs to be at room temperature,

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really, because the...

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You know, the eggs and everything, it makes such a difference, really.

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And as much or as little dressing as you want.

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And the beans as well, try not to blanch them into cold water,

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-because the flavour changes them quite a lot, doesn't it?

-I think so.

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I love that sort of warm potatoes and warm green beans.

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So, there we have it. That's my summer salad Roscoff.

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-Doesn't look too bad, that. I quite like the look of that.

-Very nice.

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It's not bad. The boy's done good.

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Right, but the real truth is in the tasting. Here we go.

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Come on over, Paul. Natalie, you get first dive in with your fork.

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-There you go.

-I can't believe the many small disasters that happened.

-I can't believe it as well.

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-My brand-new kitchen.

-And your brand-new show.

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Yeah, brand-new show, brand-new kitchen.

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Hang on a sec.

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-Mmm!

-You like that?

-Really, really nice.

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Is this the type of thing you would cook?

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Yeah, I'd have a go at this, definitely, yeah.

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-It's really, really nice.

-We encourage the guests just to speak your mind completely.

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-So if it's absolutely terrible...

-No, no, no.

-THEY LAUGH

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Actually, it's as bad as your singing.

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THEY LAUGH

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-Tell me what you think.

-That's lovely, really nice.

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-It's very light, like you said.

-I think it is really light.

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-I particularly like the warm salmon and the warm...

-Yeah, it makes a big difference.

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Quite often, if you get a salmon like that in a restaurant,

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everything is coming sort of fridge cold.

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-And it's just not the same at all.

-Tastes good?

-Tastes great.

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Pass it down to Antonio right at the end.

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That was actually the first-ever recipe cooked on

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Saturday Kitchen, 11 years ago.

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Coming up, James cooks roasted pork fillet with chorizo and

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pepper sauce for Jason Donovan.

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But first, it's over to Rick Stein, who is on the hunt for razor clams.

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Cooks in hot kitchens need a tranquil place to go.

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Not just for the fresh air, but as a source of inspiration.

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And the estuary here at Padstow is mine.

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John Betjeman, in fact, lived just across the water and felt

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exactly the same, and many of his Cornish poems were inspired

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by the light and the sense of space that the estuary gives.

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One thing I really like to do,

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and I can only do this once or twice a year at very low tides,

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is to go right down to the mouth of the estuary with

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a friend of mine called Ed, and we catch razor shells,

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and this is just the most extraordinary thing.

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I've never seen anything like it, I don't think anybody has, really.

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Except for Ed. I mean, it's just...

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The way they come up, it's like a sort of... I just think it's like

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a ship going down in reverse, you know, it's just so weird.

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It's real David Attenborough stuff.

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You know, we're in sort of nature, nature programmes here.

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Oh! There he is.

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'The whole business of catching them is really quite surreal.

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'You have to pour salt down their holes or burrows,

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'and suddenly they pop up out of the sand.

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'They seem to appear from nowhere.'

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Oh! Christ. Jeez, that made me jump.

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-See that?

-Yeah.

-There's another one, I think, just here. Yeah, it is.

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-Oh, there he is.

-Fantastic.

-We'll have that one.

-Just tell me when.

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Grab him now. Hold him tight. Now try and pull him out. But gently.

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Very gently. Ease him out slowly.

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-God, that's so much...

-Strength.

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-It's amazing.

-That's right. Very gently, so you don't break him.

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That's him, you've got him. Perfect. Well done.

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Oh.

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-Do you eat these?

-Ugh!

-You're mad.

-Yuk!

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'Ed's reaction is typical of so many fishermen.

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'They don't actually like fish. Particularly clams.

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'But, you know, when these clams are partnered with something like

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'salt pork, the sweetness of the clams contrasted with the

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'saltiness of the pork is a real gourmet's delight.'

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This is the best time of day for me, in the afternoon,

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we've just had a busy lunch.

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The kitchen is all dark now, nice and calm, no stress. No stress.

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I'm going to make this absolutely wonderful chowder.

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Cod and clam chowder. Just finishing off the cod there.

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But the main ingredient, of course, is the clams that we picked earlier.

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These beautiful razor shells. And some other clams from the estuary.

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Covered, as we always do, in seaweed,

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just to keep everything nice and moist. And living, in fact.

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Fresh and alive.

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All we do is just put these straight into a hot pan,

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and just add a little bit of the actual juice that's come out of

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the clams as they were... sitting in this tray.

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Bang on a lid, and now wrap those plates in all directions.

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I'm just going to cook some potatoes - that's another

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ingredient in the clam chowder -

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with milk and cream.

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And bay leaf.

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And fresh bay leaf is so different to dried that you buy in the shops.

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Everybody ought to use fresh bay leaves.

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The aromatic qualities of a fresh bay leaf are just wonderful.

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Those are now cooked, perfectly cooked.

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Pour them through the colander because we want to keep the juice.

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And in the front here, I'm going to sweat off that salt pork.

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Now, I made the salt pork myself. There's nothing to it.

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You can buy salt pork, but you can do your own very easily.

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Just slices of pork steeped in lots of salt,

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then drained off and rinsed in cold water.

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You can buy salt pork, but why not make your own?

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Now, a little bit of onion.

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Just soften up some onion with the salt pork.

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Give it a little bit of flavour.

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I don't want to cook the onion right out, because I want that

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slightly undercooked taste of onion to finish off the dish with.

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There we are. They're done enough.

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The potatoes will be cooked enough now.

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Then into there goes my cream, potatoes, milk.

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And lastly, I certainly want the juice which I've collected

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from the clams. It's a beautiful, sweet, salty flavour.

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Pour that in, but just leave the last teaspoon or so,

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because, as you can see, there's plenty of grit there,

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and I don't want that in my chowder.

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Simmer that away and just add the cod.

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That will only take about one minute to cook.

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I am always very keen to undercook the fish in these sort of things,

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so I am only allowing it a minute. While that's cooking,

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I just need to chop some of these clams up a bit.

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Now, these razors are, as you can see,

0:16:440:16:47

just a little bit big to serve up in one piece.

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And I'm cutting out the mouth, which is rather sort of tough and gristly

0:16:520:16:56

and a little bit sort of... There's even a slight crunch to it.

0:16:560:16:59

Maybe it's sort of poor little clams' teeth. I don't know.

0:16:590:17:02

Take the other clam shells out.

0:17:020:17:04

I'm going to leave a couple of them in there

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cos I want to actually finish the dish with

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a couple of whole shells on top, which will look very nice.

0:17:090:17:11

So, in go the clams and the shells.

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Now, that looks to be about done, but I will just make sure

0:17:140:17:16

that the consistency and the flavour is right.

0:17:160:17:19

Do you realise that's just about done? My God, it's tasting good!

0:17:190:17:22

I mean, that is so quick, isn't it?

0:17:220:17:24

There's absolutely nothing else to add.

0:17:260:17:28

That's just about all there is to it. We can dish it out now.

0:17:280:17:31

In goes the...everything.

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And a little bit of...a very important ingredient,

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which is ship's biscuit, which is, again,

0:17:370:17:39

a traditional part of the chowder,

0:17:390:17:42

because, like the potato,

0:17:420:17:44

it bulks...bulks it out a bit

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but also adds a nice crunch to it,

0:17:460:17:48

a delightful sort of crunchy texture.

0:17:480:17:50

And finally, those couple of clams

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that I kept back to put in there.

0:17:540:17:56

Let's give that a final little taste.

0:17:560:18:01

It's beautiful. What we need now is to go down the estuary,

0:18:010:18:04

stick it on a rock, put some sort of seaweed all around it

0:18:040:18:07

and get one of those fancy photographers to come down,

0:18:070:18:11

picture the dish, the blue sky beyond, the sea,

0:18:110:18:14

set the whole thing up nicely.

0:18:140:18:15

But I think it looks wonderful like it is, anyway.

0:18:150:18:19

Now, Rick's films are always inspiring.

0:18:230:18:26

Just like him, I've been away this week, not in Padstow but in Spain.

0:18:260:18:29

And I thought I'd bring together a couple of sort of things

0:18:290:18:32

that I have sort of got on my travels of this week, really.

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We've got Iberico pork, which is this amazing black-footed pig

0:18:340:18:38

that is bred on acorns. It produces this fabulous ham

0:18:380:18:41

which is just really one of the prize hams in the world, really.

0:18:410:18:44

But I've got the raw meat here. This is the fillet.

0:18:440:18:47

And I'm going to do an Iberico pork and bean cassoulet,

0:18:470:18:49

cos in Spain, the beans, the peppers, the chorizo,

0:18:490:18:52

the paprika are all just fantastic.

0:18:520:18:54

It's a wonderful little cassoulet.

0:18:540:18:56

So, first thing I want to do is get our chorizo on,

0:18:560:18:59

which we've got here.

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This is the soft chorizo,

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which you can get picante, but this is Iberico chorizo,

0:19:020:19:05

so it is made out of the same pig as this, really.

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But they take the ham, which is the highly prized one,

0:19:070:19:10

and they can take the meat as well, and use it.

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We've used it on the show as well. What we're going to do is

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use the picante version, which is this spicy sort of sausage, really.

0:19:150:19:18

And get that cooking with some Spanish olive oil.

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In Spain they do produce some amazing olive oil.

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So we're just going to, basically, just soften this down, really,

0:19:230:19:26

to get the colour of all this chorizo off.

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And then I'm going to use some of this paprika,

0:19:280:19:30

this lovely smoked paprika,

0:19:300:19:32

to make a marinade or really a topping for our pork, really.

0:19:320:19:35

A little bit of garlic, just crushed.

0:19:350:19:38

-Wow.

-More of this oil. Mix together.

0:19:380:19:41

And then all we do is just mix this together.

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And then, taking our pork, this wonderful pork fillet,

0:19:440:19:47

you can tell it's sort of a darker colour

0:19:470:19:49

-to the conventional pork.

-Fabulous meat.

0:19:490:19:51

Yeah, wonderful meat. And then what you do is pop that

0:19:510:19:54

straight onto our pan with the oil, with the garlic and everything else.

0:19:540:19:58

Seal it off on one side, cook it.

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And I have got one that has been rested nicely as well.

0:20:000:20:03

Jason, do you cook at home?

0:20:030:20:05

I'm not a big cook. My wife does a lot of cooking.

0:20:050:20:08

I mean, I tour a lot, so, you know, I am sort of living in hotels.

0:20:080:20:13

But I love food. I do love food, you know.

0:20:130:20:17

I'd like to spend more time cooking.

0:20:170:20:20

You say you tour a lot, but you are about to go

0:20:200:20:22

back into the theatre as well, aren't you, this year?

0:20:220:20:25

Well, I've just finished a thing called The King's Speech,

0:20:250:20:27

which most people probably know from the film.

0:20:270:20:30

That was a play, that was a great tour.

0:20:300:20:33

I am doing my own tour next March,

0:20:330:20:36

-which we talked about before.

-Yeah.

0:20:360:20:38

And I'm doing Priscilla. I'm going to go back and do Priscilla.

0:20:380:20:41

Cos you enjoy doing that? You've done it a few times

0:20:410:20:43

and you're back doing it again.

0:20:430:20:45

I mean, sometimes you find roles in life that you sort of...

0:20:450:20:48

You know, everything sort of works.

0:20:480:20:50

And I think that show, for me, has been, you know,

0:20:500:20:53

a lot of good luck, but...

0:20:530:20:56

I'm really looking forward to this tour in March and April next year.

0:20:560:21:00

That's a sort of... That is on the top of my list at the moment.

0:21:000:21:04

But this is celebrating your singing career, because...?

0:21:040:21:07

Well, I had a record called Ten Good Reasons, which was...

0:21:070:21:10

-Just...

-..which was... Did OK.

0:21:100:21:13

-"Did OK"!

-Back in 1989. And, um, you know,

0:21:130:21:16

a lot of people had talked to me and said,

0:21:160:21:18

"Why don't you tour that record?"

0:21:180:21:20

And I sort of hummed and hawed about it for a few years,

0:21:200:21:23

but I haven't actually toured as Jason Donovan

0:21:230:21:26

for six or seven years, so...

0:21:260:21:28

And last year I saw an ad in a paper

0:21:280:21:31

for Peter Gabriel's So record, which was his famous album from the '80s.

0:21:310:21:38

And I thought, you know, "What a great idea."

0:21:380:21:40

You give the fans, you know,

0:21:400:21:42

the opportunity to relive that sort of, that album, that record.

0:21:420:21:47

And, you know, as kids growing up, when you get into an album,

0:21:470:21:50

which doesn't happen so much these days, you, you know, you really...

0:21:500:21:56

you really remember those times.

0:21:560:21:58

So I thought this was a good opportunity to do the record

0:21:580:22:01

and to do some of my greatest hits.

0:22:010:22:03

Well, if you see one person on the front row

0:22:030:22:05

-that's shouting and screaming...

-It'll be you?

0:22:050:22:08

It's that lady over there, Michaela,

0:22:080:22:10

because she's a massive, massive fan of yours as well.

0:22:100:22:12

Well, maybe Michaela can come along to the London show.

0:22:120:22:16

-Oh!

-Hey!

-She...

0:22:160:22:18

-We can organise that. We can organise that.

-She loves you!

0:22:180:22:23

LAUGHTER

0:22:230:22:26

Right, so we're just going to recap on our beans here as well.

0:22:260:22:28

We've got the cassoulet with the beans... Tinned beans

0:22:280:22:31

or the jarred beans in Spain are just amazing.

0:22:310:22:34

We've got the wood-roasted peppers,

0:22:340:22:36

which you can buy now in jars as well.

0:22:360:22:37

Just saute all that lot together - the garlic, the chorizo.

0:22:370:22:41

In we go with some chicken stock... like that.

0:22:410:22:43

Just a touch of chicken stock. And then double cream.

0:22:430:22:45

We're going to bring this together.

0:22:450:22:47

And I'm going to add some chopped parsley to this.

0:22:470:22:49

It creates this wonderful, sort of rich...

0:22:490:22:51

-Nice flavour.

-The meat is in there? The meat is in there?

0:22:510:22:53

No. The meat is in the oven.

0:22:530:22:54

That's just basically the chorizo to go with it.

0:22:540:22:56

I'm going to put lots of chopped parsley

0:22:560:22:58

-with it as well.

-OK.

0:22:580:23:00

Now, you mentioned the tour as well next year.

0:23:000:23:02

But some of the songs you've never actually...

0:23:020:23:05

-never actually performed before live.

-I've never done...

0:23:050:23:08

You know, when you do tours,

0:23:080:23:10

you tend to pick, cherry-pick the songs that sort of work.

0:23:100:23:14

And, you know, in albums you have songs that aren't singles.

0:23:140:23:18

So, you know, again, it is just a chance to play that record

0:23:180:23:22

from top to sort of bottom,

0:23:220:23:24

and I think that is a sort of...

0:23:240:23:26

It's an interesting idea. You know. And again, it's about...

0:23:260:23:30

reminiscing for a lot of people, you know,

0:23:300:23:32

back to a time when everything was very simple.

0:23:320:23:34

No kids, and, you know...

0:23:340:23:36

I mean, you mention about reminiscing.

0:23:360:23:38

-That era, for you, it was colossal, wasn't it, really?

-It was.

0:23:380:23:42

But I think for me particularly it was about the fact that

0:23:420:23:46

Neighbours was so, you know, successful here in the UK.

0:23:460:23:51

And then you marry music and television,

0:23:510:23:54

which happens a lot these days - in things like X Factor -

0:23:540:23:58

and you create people that are not just interested in the music,

0:23:580:24:02

they are interested in the person as well.

0:24:020:24:05

Um, you know, I think...

0:24:050:24:06

I think Neighbours and the music careers that came from that...

0:24:060:24:12

There was loads of spin-offs from it as well, because,

0:24:120:24:15

in 1989, Jason-mania was sweeping right across the world.

0:24:150:24:18

-You even had your own board game.

-Wow. Wow.

0:24:180:24:21

-This was for your fans.

-Wow.

0:24:210:24:23

-Where is it?

-That person over there bought one.

0:24:230:24:26

Now, these questions were all about you. So we want to know...

0:24:260:24:28

It's so...

0:24:280:24:30

..whether you know yourself.

0:24:300:24:31

I mean, I am sure you probably find this in good charity shops

0:24:310:24:35

around the country, really.

0:24:350:24:37

-Are you ready, Jason?

-OK. I'm ready.

0:24:370:24:39

You've got to answer these quickly because my beans might burn.

0:24:390:24:41

-Come on.

-Right...

0:24:410:24:43

Cue. Your first question.

0:24:430:24:45

What was Jason's favourite subject at school?

0:24:450:24:48

-Art.

-Wrong. Accounting.

0:24:480:24:49

-BUZZER

-Accounting?!

0:24:490:24:52

What was Jason's most important thing?

0:24:520:24:55

-Surfing.

-No. Love.

0:24:550:24:57

BUZZER

0:24:570:24:58

What does Jason like collecting?

0:24:580:25:00

Um, um, um... Music records?

0:25:000:25:04

-No. Postcards.

-BUZZER

0:25:040:25:05

-Postcards...

-What are Jason's favourite postcards?

0:25:050:25:08

Postcards about...surfing?

0:25:080:25:11

-Thunderbirds.

-Thunderbirds.

-BUZZER

0:25:110:25:13

What was Jason's favourite wild animal?

0:25:130:25:15

-CLOCK TICKS

-Um, um, um... Dolphin.

0:25:150:25:19

-Tasmanian devil.

-Oh, my God.

-BUZZER

0:25:190:25:22

What was Jason's favourite time of the day?

0:25:220:25:24

I know nothing about myself whatsoever!

0:25:240:25:26

-What's your favourite time of the day?

-Um, in the morning.

0:25:260:25:29

-Sunrise. One right.

-One right.

-DING

0:25:290:25:31

What was Jason's favourite food?

0:25:310:25:33

Anything that James Martin cooks on Saturday Morning Kitchen.

0:25:330:25:36

That's the right answer, buddy. It was "healthy food".

0:25:360:25:38

-DING

-What's your favourite game?

0:25:380:25:40

Um, Twister.

0:25:400:25:42

-HOOTER

-Snakes and ladders.

0:25:420:25:44

Unbelievable.

0:25:440:25:46

Jason Donovan, you scored on a specialist subject about yourself,

0:25:460:25:51

-two points.

-I need a drink.

-Exactly.

-I need a drink.

0:25:510:25:54

APPLAUSE

0:25:540:25:55

I mean, that board game was put together pretty quickly, actually.

0:25:590:26:02

LAUGHTER

0:26:020:26:04

Yeah. At the time we didn't spend a lot of time doing the research.

0:26:040:26:07

When you are in that sort of...

0:26:070:26:11

When you're in that cycle, you know, the demands on you to get

0:26:110:26:15

merchandise and to get new records out and, you know, was overwhelming.

0:26:150:26:20

So I didn't pay a lot of attention to... Yeah.

0:26:200:26:23

If you want to go and visit the past, go round to Michaela's house,

0:26:230:26:27

because she's got T-shirts, she's got posters,

0:26:270:26:29

-she's got everything.

-Has she?

-Right, what I've got here -

0:26:290:26:32

it's a good job you answered those quickly, cos I thought

0:26:320:26:34

these were going to go dry and burn - we've got our lovely...

0:26:340:26:37

You do this well, James. You balance the two things.

0:26:370:26:39

What, a quiz show now?

0:26:390:26:41

You're turning into a master chef.

0:26:410:26:44

Mastermind.

0:26:440:26:46

There you go. So you've got this lovely sort of bean casserole.

0:26:460:26:49

-The pork has been rested nicely.

-Has it?

0:26:490:26:52

-Can I have a look at the pork?

-This actually goes...

0:26:520:26:54

It actually goes like...more wild boar than anything else.

0:26:540:26:57

Now, you can cook this pink as well, because it is like gamey.

0:26:570:27:01

And what we're going to do is add some of this little parsley.

0:27:010:27:05

-Smells delicious over here.

-Looks all right.

0:27:050:27:08

Shame you're not going to get any, cos you didn't share the mackerel.

0:27:080:27:12

-Yeah.

-Fair enough.

0:27:120:27:13

Any more of that schnapps?

0:27:130:27:15

-You don't want any more, trust me! There you go.

-Wow. Thank you.

0:27:150:27:18

-Dive into that.

-Thank you.

0:27:180:27:20

Where do you find this Iberico in London?

0:27:200:27:24

-You can get it online, but, yeah, you can get it in London.

-Yeah?

0:27:240:27:28

I don't know whether you were this big in Sweden.

0:27:280:27:31

I'm presuming you were as well because it says in here,

0:27:310:27:34

"At the height of Jason's fame, he had a myriad of female fans

0:27:340:27:37

"who, it was reported at the time, fainted at a rate

0:27:370:27:40

"of one every 12 seconds."

0:27:400:27:42

Absolutely. Every 12 seconds.

0:27:420:27:44

Towards the end of my fame it got down to about one

0:27:440:27:46

every three or four seconds.

0:27:460:27:48

It happens all the time at the back of the studio!

0:27:480:27:51

LAUGHTER

0:27:510:27:53

There you go, Jason. James cooked that Especially For You.

0:27:580:28:01

Do you get it?

0:28:010:28:03

Today we're taking a look back at some of the tastiest recipes

0:28:030:28:05

from the Saturday Kitchen archives.

0:28:050:28:07

And we have barely scratched the surface. So don't go anywhere.

0:28:070:28:10

Up next is Allegra McEvedy, who's doing a good job

0:28:100:28:13

of keeping James in check.

0:28:130:28:14

Good to have you on, Allegra. What are you cooking for us today?

0:28:140:28:17

We're going to do a monkfish and couscous dish.

0:28:170:28:19

Kind of Moroccan influences - put it in a bag.

0:28:190:28:21

-This is our beautiful piece of monkfish.

-Yeah.

0:28:210:28:24

Cornish monkfish. Over here we've got

0:28:240:28:26

some couscous, spring onions, coriander,

0:28:260:28:28

two kinds of cumin - seeds and the ground. A bit of saffron.

0:28:280:28:31

-These are little preserved lemons.

-Which we'll get on to later.

0:28:310:28:34

Cherry tomatoes. And fennel. And that's what's going in the bag.

0:28:340:28:37

-And this is...

-This is a little go-with salad.

0:28:370:28:40

Some nice Greek yoghurt, English radishes...

0:28:400:28:43

-Kind of like a tzatziki?

-Yes.

0:28:430:28:45

That's a bit of sumac, which is kind of an Iranian spice.

0:28:450:28:47

Which often people would have with bread.

0:28:470:28:49

If they visit Cyprus quite a lot, they put on top of bread.

0:28:490:28:52

-And sesame seeds. And they bake it. Anyway, there we go.

-OK.

0:28:520:28:55

So, monkfish, lovely fish.

0:28:550:28:56

Very, very easy to fillet. Like so.

0:28:560:28:58

And that's what's going to be so great about this dish -

0:28:580:29:01

it's going to be simple, it's going to be easy.

0:29:010:29:03

Monkfish is an amazing fish. It's quite an ugly fish.

0:29:030:29:05

There's 60% waste on it.

0:29:050:29:07

But it was kind of a fish that not often chefs used very much.

0:29:070:29:11

It was always kind of deep-fried in breadcrumbs

0:29:110:29:14

and used as a poor man's scampi, wasn't it, really?

0:29:140:29:16

-Yeah. Now it is quite dear.

-Yeah.

0:29:160:29:18

You can do this with any white fish, really, or salmon,

0:29:180:29:21

-something like that.

-Yeah.

0:29:210:29:23

I like the way... It used to be called poor man's lobster,

0:29:230:29:26

cos I like the way that the...

0:29:260:29:27

If you want to chop those. And also the cherry tomatoes after that.

0:29:270:29:30

-OK.

-And quite quickly. Thanks.

-Yes, Chef!

0:29:300:29:33

LAUGHTER

0:29:330:29:34

Thank you very much. I am making those into little medallions there.

0:29:340:29:37

You can tell it's her first time. You'll calm down on the second one.

0:29:370:29:40

LAUGHTER

0:29:400:29:41

I like control. I do like things to happen.

0:29:410:29:44

So I am going to make these into medallions here and put those aside

0:29:440:29:47

-whilst we get the rest of it together.

-Yeah.

-So...

0:29:470:29:51

I am going to drop the saffron in here, into the water,

0:29:510:29:54

to infuse a little bit without moving.

0:29:540:29:57

Right, what's next?

0:29:570:29:59

Yes, if you just cut those little cherry tomatoes in half,

0:29:590:30:01

-that would be great.

-OK.

0:30:010:30:03

Now, on your travels and your restaurants and bits and pieces

0:30:030:30:05

where you've worked all over the world, I have actually eaten

0:30:050:30:08

in one of your restaurants, probably when you were there -

0:30:080:30:11

-a certain Mr Robert De Niro owned it in New York.

-Oh, Bob.

0:30:110:30:15

Bob? Oh, sorry, Bob. Bob.

0:30:150:30:17

-Yeah...

-That was... Tell us... What's it called?

0:30:170:30:21

Tribeca Grill. It's the southern part of Manhattan.

0:30:210:30:24

Yeah, real experience. Very, very busy. 500 covers a night.

0:30:240:30:27

Yeah, and I was in charge of running the kitchen.

0:30:270:30:30

-Didn't you get a special visa to go over there?

-Yeah.

0:30:300:30:32

I got a visa... I was an alien of extraordinarily ability

0:30:320:30:35

in the culinary arts.

0:30:350:30:36

I know. My dad thought that was hysterical.

0:30:360:30:39

So that's all going in.

0:30:390:30:41

So, preserved lemons in there. Tomatoes, spring onions in here.

0:30:410:30:44

If you want to chop a bunch of that. Keep a little on the side,

0:30:440:30:47

-put the rest of it in.

-Yes, Chef.

0:30:470:30:49

-I am going to get on with the...

-What did she say? What did she say?

0:30:490:30:52

-More chopping!

-Right, OK.

0:30:520:30:54

-More chopping...

-More chopping?

-Less talking.

0:30:540:30:56

Can't say that on TV, can you?

0:30:560:30:58

And I suppose your ability in the kitchens there led you to win

0:30:580:31:02

numerous prizes,

0:31:020:31:03

one of which has won you the Best Cookbook Of The Year, is that right?

0:31:030:31:06

Yeah. In the States. I'm just cutting this fennel a little bit.

0:31:060:31:09

In the States last month.

0:31:090:31:11

My cookery book did amazingly well, kind of blew me out of the water.

0:31:110:31:14

-Best Chef's Cookery Book In The World.

-In the world?

0:31:140:31:16

Well, apparently. That's what they said.

0:31:160:31:18

That's what it said on the medal, so it has got to be true.

0:31:180:31:22

So there you go, Gordon Ramsay!

0:31:220:31:24

-Right...

-Shh!

-Go on, then.

0:31:240:31:27

So there we go. Fennel is in.

0:31:270:31:29

Right, I have got some foil here.

0:31:290:31:31

Now we're going to make our little bags, which is where the magic

0:31:310:31:33

is going to happen. Let's...

0:31:330:31:35

-Do you want to rip off two lengths of that?

-Yes, Chef, no problem.

0:31:350:31:38

A little bit of that going in, olive oil,

0:31:380:31:40

-just to keep the couscous grains apart.

-Lovely.

0:31:400:31:43

Obviously, you need salt, not only for the couscous,

0:31:430:31:45

but also for the fish. If you don't get the sizzling right

0:31:450:31:47

at this stage, you haven't got a chance.

0:31:470:31:50

That will go straight in like that.

0:31:500:31:51

-Yeah, lay out two of those.

-Two of those.

-One on my place.

0:31:510:31:56

That's it. It's coming on nicely.

0:31:560:31:58

And then just going to drop in the saffron water just to give it

0:31:580:32:01

a little kick-start. And the rest of the moisture to go...

0:32:010:32:04

to cook the couscous in comes out of the fish.

0:32:040:32:06

-And that is part of the magic of the dish.

-Have you put the spices in?

0:32:060:32:09

-Have you put the cumin in?

-Yes, I have. Both seeds and ground.

0:32:090:32:12

-I like the textures of both of them.

-OK.

-OK.

-That's that one.

0:32:120:32:16

-That's that. Right, a little bit of oil.

-Sorry.

0:32:160:32:19

-A little bit of oil.

-Then your fennel.

0:32:190:32:22

-In the fennel? Yeah.

-Then a blob of the couscous.

-OK.

0:32:220:32:25

Blob of the couscous. Spoon.

0:32:250:32:28

There we go. How are your hands?

0:32:280:32:31

Monk on top.

0:32:310:32:32

Did you save a little bit? There we go.

0:32:320:32:35

That goes on top of there.

0:32:350:32:36

Like that. A touch more seasoning.

0:32:360:32:39

-Fish on.

-Sorry, Chef. Yeah.

0:32:390:32:41

On.

0:32:420:32:44

That is lovely. Great, perfect.

0:32:440:32:45

-A little bit of coriander on top.

-Coriander.

-Yeah.

0:32:450:32:48

-Now you want to make your bag.

-Hold on a minute.

0:32:480:32:50

-I haven't put salt and pepper on it yet.

-North over south.

0:32:500:32:53

-Yeah.

-Like that?

0:32:530:32:55

Look at that. That just looks so fresh.

0:32:560:32:58

-North over south.

-North over south like that.

0:32:580:33:01

You do side first. Now, you've got to get a really, really good seal

0:33:010:33:04

on this, James. One, two. And press down.

0:33:040:33:07

I'm pressing down. I'm pressing down!

0:33:070:33:09

One, two, three like that. Flip it. Other way round. One, two, three.

0:33:090:33:13

-I'm pressing down. I'm pressing it!

-Are you? Doing it hard?

-Yes, Matron!

0:33:130:33:16

-I've got it, yeah.

-Right, before you do your topping...

0:33:160:33:20

Just a little bit more water in, like that.

0:33:200:33:22

You can put a bit of vermouth in,

0:33:220:33:24

but they frown on that in Morocco where this dish...

0:33:240:33:27

I got the inspiration from.

0:33:270:33:28

-Yeah.

-And then your top. One, two, three.

0:33:280:33:31

Now, it must be a good seal,

0:33:310:33:33

or else your bag won't puff up and the magic won't happen.

0:33:330:33:36

-It's like a private party now.

-It's a good seal.

-Yeah. In it goes.

0:33:360:33:39

-Thank you very much indeed.

-There you go, Chef.

0:33:390:33:42

-Little bit more work?

-Yes.

-Do you want to do more peeling?

-Peeling.

0:33:420:33:44

-Seeding, and then just thin slicing.

-Peeling. Right, OK.

0:33:440:33:47

You know what? Don't worry about peeling it. That's fine.

0:33:470:33:50

-Just slice it?

-We're in the same situation as we were earlier

0:33:500:33:53

-with the spoons and soup.

-Slice it, slice it.

0:33:530:33:55

And I'm going to do the same with some radishes over here.

0:33:550:33:58

-Slice them up.

-I'm chucking in all of this veg...

0:33:580:34:01

This is just going to go in like this, very simple.

0:34:020:34:05

And it is just going to be a little yoghurty salad to work

0:34:050:34:08

with the flavours. Very authentic to the region.

0:34:080:34:12

And we do... At my restaurants, Leon, we do a lot of this kind

0:34:120:34:16

of Mediterranean-type food.

0:34:160:34:17

It's very healthy, very delicious, really good for you. Simple stuff.

0:34:170:34:21

A dish like this is just a joy,

0:34:210:34:23

because you can do the work ahead of time and just whack it in the oven

0:34:230:34:26

when your guests or your date arrives.

0:34:260:34:28

Tell us about the concept of your restaurants that you're doing?

0:34:280:34:31

Well, basically, it is healthy fast food is what we do.

0:34:310:34:33

Because, you know, particularly these days,

0:34:330:34:35

people have got less time to eat

0:34:350:34:37

but more awareness about what they're eating.

0:34:370:34:40

So there was just this kind of space in the market

0:34:400:34:42

that my partners and I saw.

0:34:420:34:43

We're having a lot of fun with it, doing really well.

0:34:430:34:46

Won Best New Restaurant In Great Britain.

0:34:460:34:48

So that is...

0:34:480:34:50

A little bit of dill, not too much dill. Easy to do the overkill.

0:34:500:34:53

So how fast, when you say fast food,

0:34:530:34:56

if someone was to come in and sort of sit down and order something?

0:34:560:34:59

-Yeah.

-It's like McDonalds and you go in, you order at tills,

0:34:590:35:03

but instead of there being nasty burgers,

0:35:030:35:06

not mentioning any names, there's superfood salads,

0:35:060:35:09

grilled chicken with aioli,

0:35:090:35:10

Moroccan meatballs, there's a daily slow cook.

0:35:100:35:14

-Is that enough?

-Yes, that looks lovely.

0:35:140:35:16

Bit of that, bit of that, a little swish of olive oil, a bit of that.

0:35:160:35:20

I'm just going to loosen it out with a drop of water cos it looks sticky.

0:35:200:35:23

-Sticky, yep.

-That's great.

0:35:230:35:25

Do you want to give that a stir and I'll get this one out the oven?

0:35:250:35:30

-Rather you than me!

-Speed up, James, it's fast food. Come on.

0:35:300:35:34

THEY LAUGH

0:35:340:35:37

-Right. So how long's that in the oven?

-It'll be about 15 minutes.

0:35:370:35:40

It depends on the size of the monk,

0:35:400:35:42

-but what you want to do is whack one of those on there.

-Give me that.

0:35:420:35:45

Cheers, thanks. Watch out for the steam when you open it.

0:35:450:35:48

-That's been baked at 200 degrees, yeah?

-Yeah, 200 degrees.

0:35:480:35:51

You see that little puff of steam there? Open it up like that.

0:35:510:35:54

That just looks very nice indeed.

0:35:540:35:57

Here's our little salad,

0:35:570:35:59

finish with a little bit of fresh corry like that.

0:35:590:36:01

Our nice yoghurty salad.

0:36:010:36:03

Can you smell that cumin coming off, the spices?

0:36:030:36:06

There we go, just like that.

0:36:060:36:07

Yoghurt and radish and cucumber salad,

0:36:070:36:10

sumac as our nod to our friends in Iran on the other side of the Med.

0:36:100:36:14

Lovely. And that's it. So, Allegra, what's that again?

0:36:140:36:17

That is baked-in-the-bag couscous, preserved lemons, monkfish and yum.

0:36:170:36:22

Yum!

0:36:220:36:24

Right, come on.

0:36:260:36:29

-Right, over here. Let's have a dive in.

-Let's try the yum.

0:36:290:36:33

-Have a seat, Allegra. There we go, dive in.

-Thanks.

0:36:330:36:37

-Have a smell as well, it's just...

-Smell it!

-Get your face in it!

0:36:370:36:41

The whole aura of it as it comes over... That's lovely, that.

0:36:410:36:43

I'll have a little bit of fish,

0:36:430:36:45

I won't take it all for everybody else.

0:36:450:36:47

-Oops, sorry.

-In your own time.

-Sorry, sorry.

0:36:470:36:49

-What are the preserved lemons?

-Preserved lemons are...

0:36:490:36:52

Well, basically, if you think about it, in Morocco,

0:36:520:36:55

they didn't get fridges until relatively recently

0:36:550:36:57

in their culinary history and so the way they used to keep them

0:36:570:36:59

was by packing them in salt and they'd just turn them...

0:36:590:37:03

-Have you done these?

-Yes.

0:37:030:37:05

Big Kilner jar, turn them over once a day

0:37:050:37:07

for about a month and then they get this sort of...

0:37:070:37:09

Slightly like fermenting, but they just get

0:37:090:37:11

this real depth of flavour that I find really interesting.

0:37:110:37:15

Cos to me, it's where the world's sort of culinary inventions

0:37:150:37:19

come from, the way they preserve their favourite food.

0:37:190:37:22

They love their fish and all kinds of stuff

0:37:220:37:24

so you've got salt cod in Spain and all kinds of stuff.

0:37:240:37:26

How's that going down?

0:37:260:37:28

It's beautiful and with the tinfoil,

0:37:280:37:30

is that kind of like the tagine thing,

0:37:300:37:31

-like cooking it within the...

-Yeah, exactly.

0:37:310:37:33

It's all about just keeping everything in

0:37:330:37:35

and not letting any of the flavours escape.

0:37:350:37:38

-Michael?

-Lovely, delicious.

0:37:380:37:40

You should try that. Such a simple recipe,

0:37:440:37:46

but I bet it tasted fantastic.

0:37:460:37:48

Right, now it's Keith time and this week,

0:37:480:37:50

he's out at sea having problems procuring pilchards.

0:37:500:37:54

We set sail from Newlyn with Frank and Phil

0:37:540:37:57

on a course for the Blood Pit,

0:37:570:37:58

a centuries-old fishing ground so named out of respect

0:37:580:38:02

for countless tonnes of pilchards that met their maker here.

0:38:020:38:05

We, too, would drift and haul nets by hand

0:38:050:38:07

in the time-honoured fashion,

0:38:070:38:09

except that we'd be aided tonight by a little magic box

0:38:090:38:12

called a fish finder, though I doubt these boys need such a device.

0:38:120:38:16

Floyd On Fish takes life pretty seriously.

0:38:160:38:18

-When we came down to Newlyn today...

-FISHERMAN SHOUTS INSTRUCTIONS

0:38:180:38:21

Could you be quiet a minute, please? Sorry about that.

0:38:210:38:23

Just while I get this very difficult piece out for the punters at home,

0:38:230:38:26

you know what I mean? They're all landlubbers.

0:38:260:38:28

They don't know how hard you work.

0:38:280:38:30

But because we wanted to get some really good pilchards,

0:38:300:38:33

we came down to Newlyn,

0:38:330:38:34

which, you know, 13 years or more ago was one of the hubs,

0:38:340:38:38

the centres of the pilchard industry which supported thousands

0:38:380:38:41

of families in canneries, the women working tinning the fish,

0:38:410:38:45

hundreds of men out on the boats catching the stuff.

0:38:450:38:47

In fact, there were so many boats, that at night, their lights

0:38:470:38:51

twinkling around the place looked like floating villages at sea.

0:38:510:38:54

So, as I said, we came to Newlyn to get, and what did we find?

0:38:540:38:57

A tin of Japanese pilchards!

0:38:570:39:00

Well, I believe in these fishermen.

0:39:000:39:02

I think they're going to catch the stuff

0:39:020:39:04

and I'm going to heave this bloody rubbish over the side.

0:39:040:39:06

# A good sword and a trusty hand!

0:39:060:39:09

# A merry heart and true!

0:39:090:39:12

# King James's men shall understand what Cornish lads can do

0:39:120:39:18

# And have they fixed the where and when?

0:39:180:39:21

# And shall Trelawny die?

0:39:210:39:24

# Here's 20,000 Cornishmen will know the reason why

0:39:240:39:30

# And shall Trelawny live?

0:39:300:39:33

# Or shall Trelawny die?

0:39:330:39:37

# Here's 20,000 Cornishmen will know the reason why. #

0:39:370:39:43

What a shame the bobbing red sails of the pilchard boats

0:39:460:39:48

are no more, replaced by huge trawlers that suck the ocean

0:39:480:39:52

not only of Cornwall's proud heritage, but it's fish, too,

0:39:520:39:55

and with a shameful disregard for tomorrow.

0:39:550:39:58

Oh, there's a romantic sight for you, isn't it?

0:39:580:40:01

Red sails in the sunset.

0:40:010:40:02

It's what pilchard fishing is all about and pilchard eating, too,

0:40:020:40:06

cos eating fish is great fun.

0:40:060:40:07

You know, the French and the Italians and all that all gloat over

0:40:070:40:11

their sardines and charcoal grill them, they put them in...

0:40:110:40:14

And pilchards they catch, too, and they put them in spicy tomato sauce.

0:40:140:40:18

They call them escabeche of pilchards

0:40:180:40:20

and when we go on holiday, we say,

0:40:200:40:22

"Oh, good-oh, escabeche of pilchards, jolly good.

0:40:220:40:24

"Read that in the Good Food Guide and things. Absolutely splendid!"

0:40:240:40:27

Will they eat a pilchard? Will they hell!

0:40:270:40:29

But when we've caught some in this ancient and lovely method,

0:40:290:40:32

if only you could be with us here now, you'd really enjoy it -

0:40:320:40:35

the sky, the light, these wonderful blokes cracking jokes all the time.

0:40:350:40:39

They're going to tell us the whole tale in a moment.

0:40:390:40:42

'But as night fell, Frank and Phil exchanged anxious glances.

0:40:420:40:46

'You see, there was a woman onboard

0:40:460:40:48

'and Frank was muttering darkly about her black net.

0:40:480:40:51

'So, in the hope of easing the atmosphere,

0:40:510:40:54

'I asked Frank how to cook a pilchard.'

0:40:540:40:56

-I've never ate a pilchard in my life.

-Have you not?

0:40:560:40:58

-No, that is the truth.

-The best way, m'dear, is to scrowl them.

0:40:580:41:04

Scrowl them?

0:41:040:41:05

-Put them in the sun.

-And that dries them.

0:41:050:41:08

And then they're handsome, then. But it's no good for you to...

0:41:080:41:11

I know you're a cook.

0:41:110:41:13

Oh, yes, but I don't know anything about pilchards, you see.

0:41:130:41:16

But our way is marinade them or scrowl them.

0:41:160:41:19

-Are we going to catch any of these fish, do you think?

-Yes, we are.

0:41:190:41:22

-Always have faith.

-Yes! Have you ever not caught anything?

0:41:220:41:27

I don't think we've ever had pilchard nets without anything, eh?

0:41:270:41:31

-We've had three tonnes the last two nights.

-Oh, really?

0:41:310:41:33

-So we're on for a good chance today?

-We should be in a really good...

0:41:330:41:37

How much longer are we going to have to wait to pull any pilchards in?

0:41:370:41:41

About quarter of an hour, 20 minutes.

0:41:410:41:43

So altogether in about three hours, I suppose, from start to...

0:41:430:41:47

Start to finish.

0:41:470:41:48

Well, we come out and we've got to look where we're going to drift to.

0:41:480:41:51

It's a lovely night, isn't it? A good night for a murder!

0:41:510:41:55

THEY LAUGH

0:41:550:41:56

Well, you could murder one of that lot!

0:41:560:41:59

But if we do catch any, who are you going to sell them to?

0:41:590:42:02

Jowsters, that's the people that go around

0:42:020:42:05

-with their little carts selling to the doors, to hotels.

-Oh, really?

0:42:050:42:10

-That still happens?

-Oh, yes, a lot of jowsters about.

0:42:100:42:14

So people can still buy a fresh pilchard off the jowster?

0:42:140:42:18

-Yeah.

-And the rest, where do they go? To a canning factory?

0:42:180:42:21

No, we fish for a salter. He salts them in and sends them to Italy.

0:42:210:42:26

To Italy? That's blinking marvellous, isn't it?

0:42:260:42:29

In Bristol, for example, where I live,

0:42:290:42:31

I couldn't get a pilchard from one year to the next,

0:42:310:42:33

but the Italians can get them. It doesn't seem fair to me.

0:42:330:42:36

I think going back to 30 years ago,

0:42:360:42:37

-95% of the pilchards went to Italy, didn't they?

-Yeah, all of them.

0:42:370:42:41

It was just a few to America,

0:42:410:42:43

which went to the Italian immigrants that was there,

0:42:430:42:49

but all of them went to Genoa and all these places,

0:42:490:42:54

you see different markings in there now they put on the ends

0:42:540:42:57

of the barrels and also they go from Mousehole.

0:42:570:42:59

Every seller used to do his own fish.

0:42:590:43:02

They used to huddle them then.

0:43:020:43:04

What does that mean?

0:43:040:43:05

They used to put them like in a little rick

0:43:050:43:09

-and salt them out of a tank and they called them huddled.

-Huddled.

0:43:090:43:15

I see old pictures of them in some old magazines, you know.

0:43:150:43:19

But they've played a great part in the fishing industry of Cornwall.

0:43:190:43:26

They were the foundations of all the fishing.

0:43:260:43:29

# And shall Trelawny live?

0:43:290:43:32

# Or shall Trelawny die?

0:43:320:43:35

# Here's 20,000 Cornishmen

0:43:350:43:39

# Will know the reason why. #

0:43:390:43:45

Well, my friends on the boat have been heaving this net in

0:43:450:43:49

by hand for the last 20 minutes. We've got one pilchard so far.

0:43:490:43:52

I hope I did the right thing

0:43:520:43:53

by throwing the tin of Japanese stuff over the side.

0:43:530:43:57

With plenty of time, lots of faith, I will get lots more.

0:43:570:44:00

We'll still have a good dinner at the end of tonight.

0:44:000:44:02

Look at them, aren't they pretty?

0:44:020:44:05

-Handsome, I think the word is.

-Handsome, lovely.

0:44:050:44:09

'Another half-hour, another huge length of net and nothing.

0:44:110:44:16

'Spirits were low and it wasn't just the cold night. Something was wrong.

0:44:160:44:22

'We'd run out of whisky.'

0:44:220:44:25

We're trying to get some good luck into all of this

0:44:250:44:27

and they tell me they won't sing,

0:44:270:44:29

but I've got to sing the Cornish anthem.

0:44:290:44:30

I don't know what it is, just tell me the words again.

0:44:300:44:33

-The Cornish anthem is Trelawny.

-It's Trelawny, but what are the words?

0:44:330:44:37

-Fish and tin?

-Oh, that's the other one.

0:44:370:44:40

Fish and tin and copper, boys.

0:44:400:44:44

-Fish and tin and copper, boys.

-And Tre and Pol and Pen.

0:44:440:44:47

Right, what's the tune?

0:44:470:44:49

Well, I ain't got no orchestra here!

0:44:490:44:52

But it's something like...

0:44:520:44:55

# Fish and tin and copper, boys

0:44:550:44:58

# Tre and Pol and Pen

0:44:580:45:00

# Heave the rope, me babbies, hard

0:45:000:45:03

# Get them buggers in. #

0:45:030:45:06

-That's about the best I can do.

-Well, that'll do.

0:45:060:45:09

That'll do for the time.

0:45:090:45:10

-They think we're all drunk.

-We haven't had a drop all day!

0:45:120:45:16

You can't organise when you want them.

0:45:170:45:20

The last time we were here, we had two tonnes.

0:45:200:45:25

There we are. Here we are now for what you call a black net.

0:45:250:45:33

Black net. Oh, dear! Black net, black night.

0:45:330:45:36

So, I'm afraid, my gastronauts,

0:45:410:45:43

we're going to be rather hungry tonight cos after five hours

0:45:430:45:46

of working really hard out in the night in the Cornish sea here,

0:45:460:45:49

we've got just a black net, which in the trade means zero,

0:45:490:45:53

and for our pains, we've got four, just four, pilchards.

0:45:530:45:57

I really wish I hadn't thrown that tin over the side now.

0:45:570:46:01

OK, this is absolutely fabulous -

0:46:030:46:06

the best and the freshest pilchards you've ever seen.

0:46:060:46:09

I don't think you'll be very happy

0:46:090:46:11

about having to eat them at this luxurious resort

0:46:110:46:13

and this splendid table,

0:46:130:46:14

but after the sort of day I've had,

0:46:140:46:16

I don't give a damn and I can't even be bothered to tell you

0:46:160:46:18

how to cook them because if you don't know to cook

0:46:180:46:20

a grilled fresh pilchard, then you know nothing.

0:46:200:46:23

Excuse me a sec.

0:46:230:46:25

Mmm!

0:46:260:46:28

Those are absolutely fantastic, they really are.

0:46:340:46:38

But although they're brilliant,

0:46:380:46:39

I still think the final score is Newlyn 3 Japan 27.

0:46:390:46:44

'Now for something quite different, but I must warn you,

0:46:440:46:47

'if the idea of raw fish turns you off, I suggest you switch off.

0:46:470:46:50

'Even old Fred's a bit apprehensive about the idea

0:46:500:46:52

'and I'm still totally confused,

0:46:520:46:54

'completely tongue-tied over the Japanese phrase

0:46:540:46:56

'I've got to say for "hello" as I enter this charming restaurant,

0:46:560:46:59

'never mind pronouncing the owner's name, which I think is Chikako.'

0:46:590:47:04

-Ah, Chikako. Konichiwa.

-Konichiwa.

0:47:040:47:07

This is my friend, Fred,

0:47:070:47:09

who's come up from Plymouth with this wonderful fresh fish for you.

0:47:090:47:12

-Look at that. Isn't that beautiful?

-My goodness!

0:47:120:47:16

Absolutely live crayfish. Isn't that splendid?

0:47:160:47:19

And still going like crazy and a bass and a fresh sole,

0:47:190:47:24

fresh mackerel, live crabs.

0:47:240:47:27

They are live, I'm sure they'll move for us in a moment.

0:47:270:47:30

-Yes, they're all live.

-And some fresh brill.

0:47:300:47:31

But, look, we've travelled a long way this morning

0:47:310:47:34

and we're absolutely ravenous.

0:47:340:47:35

-Do you think we can go and cook some now?

-Yes.

0:47:350:47:37

-Come on, then, lead on to the kitchen.

-OK, then.

0:47:370:47:39

Chikako, this is absolutely beautiful -

0:47:440:47:47

the colours, the textures.

0:47:470:47:50

And, Fred, look, outside of a stargazy pie,

0:47:500:47:52

I bet there aren't many people

0:47:520:47:54

who've seen a fish head sitting on their plate.

0:47:540:47:56

Most people wouldn't like to see them on their plate, I don't think.

0:47:560:47:59

I'm sure they wouldn't, but it looks absolutely wonderful!

0:47:590:48:02

-Chikako, have you finished slicing the fish?

-Yes.

0:48:020:48:04

Come and sit down beside me and serve us a little drink

0:48:040:48:07

and tell us how and what you've prepared here

0:48:070:48:10

because there are going to be thousands of people

0:48:100:48:12

fascinated by this and you're the only expert here.

0:48:120:48:15

Fred has caught the fish, I love eating fish,

0:48:150:48:18

but you prepared it, you know everything about it.

0:48:180:48:20

-Come and tell me all about it, please. What have we got here?

-Sake.

0:48:200:48:23

Sake, which we must drink.

0:48:230:48:25

Wonderful. You pour a little there for Fred.

0:48:250:48:28

-This will make things a lot easier. This is a hot wine, Fred.

-Hot wine?

0:48:280:48:33

Hot wine, which is really brilliant with the fish.

0:48:330:48:36

That's superb, thank you. Very, very good health.

0:48:380:48:42

Kanpai!

0:48:420:48:43

Now, what shall we start with?

0:48:430:48:46

Shall we start with the mackerel?

0:48:460:48:48

-Yes, anything.

-You've got us there, haven't you? Excellent.

0:48:480:48:51

And what have we got here, this little finely-chopped...

0:48:510:48:54

That is fresh ginger.

0:48:540:48:56

-Fresh ginger, great, and chives on the top, is that right?

-Yes.

0:48:560:49:00

So if we get a bit of that and dip it into the soy sauce, yes?

0:49:000:49:03

And just eat.

0:49:030:49:05

Oh, I say! Oh, that's beautiful. That's absolutely...

0:49:050:49:08

What do you think, Fred?

0:49:080:49:10

What are your mates going to think of you eating raw mackerel?

0:49:120:49:15

Well, I'll have a few presents of raw mackerel, I reckon,

0:49:150:49:18

-when I get down there.

-Right. So, can I just have a bit of that?

0:49:180:49:22

Cos that is so very, very nice. I love the fresh ginger.

0:49:220:49:25

Yes, the mackerel needs something a little refreshing

0:49:250:49:29

-so the chives and the ginger together is nice.

-Magnificent.

0:49:290:49:32

Now, this beautiful flower here, this fan shape.

0:49:320:49:35

You've got that there, haven't you?

0:49:350:49:37

And it's so beautiful. This fish on the outside is...

0:49:370:49:40

-Thinly-sliced plaice.

-But tell me about this...

-That is green mustard.

0:49:400:49:47

This is a Japanese green mustard. What's it made from?

0:49:470:49:50

So, just put it in the soy sauce and mix it.

0:49:500:49:53

-Wonderful. And is that hot?

-Yes, hot, like radish, horseradish.

0:49:530:49:59

Like a green horseradish. That's an interesting variation, isn't it?

0:49:590:50:02

And some raw cucumber here. Oh, can I hold it? I'm so hungry.

0:50:020:50:07

Excuse me for being a pig. Sorry about this, Fred.

0:50:070:50:10

-I'll be back with you in a moment.

-And then, that is the salmon trout.

0:50:100:50:13

-Salmon trout there.

-Yes.

0:50:130:50:14

-That's the freshwater.

-Mm. Oh, that's beautiful, too.

0:50:180:50:21

I wonder how many people realise that this isn't only very beautiful

0:50:210:50:24

to look at, very delicious to eat, but it's very, very good for you.

0:50:240:50:29

And I've been told off for speaking with my mouth full.

0:50:290:50:31

Very sorry about that, Mum.

0:50:310:50:33

Now, over here, equally delicious looking, what have we got there?

0:50:330:50:39

-This is a squid with seaweed.

-Squid with seaweed.

0:50:390:50:42

-The seaweed is in the inside there, is it?

-Yes.

0:50:420:50:44

So it's rolled, stuffed squid with seaweed. Isn't that beautiful?

0:50:440:50:47

Ah, but what about this here?

0:50:470:50:49

This is a chopped up squid also

0:50:490:50:51

with the Japanese chrysanthemum leaves and the flower, marinaded.

0:50:510:50:55

Beautiful! So we're going to actually eat the flower

0:50:550:50:57

and the leaves of a Japanese chrysanthemum.

0:50:570:51:00

And this, I can tell you, is an absolute first for me -

0:51:000:51:02

I've never done that before.

0:51:020:51:04

Oh, boy. Try it, Fred. That's delicious.

0:51:050:51:08

It's a little bit like... What's that like?

0:51:080:51:11

It is a little bit like spinach with a sweeter taste of...

0:51:110:51:15

something else in it.

0:51:150:51:16

-The chrysanthemum flower itself is...

-It's the flower you taste.

0:51:160:51:19

-Mm.

-It's nice.

0:51:190:51:20

-How are you doing with your sake there?

-That is nice.

0:51:200:51:23

If in doubt, always have a little drop of sake, because I know...

0:51:230:51:27

-Thank you.

-You're going to have some, too?

-Yes, thank you.

0:51:270:51:30

-Got a steady hand on this one.

-Yeah. Is it, um...?

0:51:300:51:33

Of course, the whole thing about eating Japanese food

0:51:330:51:35

isn't only the food and everything - it's the presentation.

0:51:350:51:38

Look at these beautiful trays we're serving it from.

0:51:380:51:40

But there's some rules of etiquette, aren't there?

0:51:400:51:42

In fact, really, I shouldn't be serving sake myself, should I?

0:51:420:51:45

-You must wait until I serve.

-I must wait until you do it.

0:51:450:51:48

Well, I'm very sorry about that, but I was very thirsty.

0:51:480:51:50

-Anyway, kanpai.

-Kanpai.

0:51:500:51:51

'Great stuff, sake. And Fred's enjoying himself, too.

0:51:530:51:56

'Though the mackerel looks a bit hacked off.

0:51:560:51:58

'You see, Japanese food is all about style,

0:51:580:52:01

'an economy of elegance, a single rose in a delicate vase,

0:52:010:52:04

'the understated perfection that the Japanese call shibui.

0:52:040:52:08

'But no matter how pretty the dishes look,

0:52:080:52:10

'they only work if you use the freshest fish,

0:52:100:52:13

'and I do mean fresh - not frozen.'

0:52:130:52:15

You might get the impression by the way that Chikako drinks her drink

0:52:160:52:21

and eats her food and serves us so politely and delicately

0:52:210:52:23

that she was better brought up than me.

0:52:230:52:25

In fact, she was brought up differently from me.

0:52:250:52:27

And as different as their food is from ours,

0:52:270:52:29

it's also worth noting at this point

0:52:290:52:31

that the Japanese don't have hors d'oeuvres, as such,

0:52:310:52:34

because all of their food is sort hors d'oeuvres-like.

0:52:340:52:37

And if you're going to cook this kind of food at home,

0:52:370:52:39

you don't need to be formalised by traditional English fashions

0:52:390:52:42

of starter, main course, middle.

0:52:420:52:44

You just start and you crack on in.

0:52:440:52:46

-And that's what we want to do, isn't it?

-Yes.

0:52:460:52:48

-If you can start cooking something for us now.

-Yes.

0:52:480:52:50

But first of all,

0:52:500:52:52

tell us what we've got in here by way of ingredients. We've got...

0:52:520:52:56

-That is king prawn.

-King prawns here.

0:52:560:53:00

-And fresh halibut, yes?

-Yes.

0:53:000:53:02

Fresh salmon, fresh bass, fresh mackerel.

0:53:020:53:05

-Now, vegetables.

-The scallops.

-And scallops.

0:53:050:53:08

And we've got beansprouts, carrot.

0:53:080:53:10

Notice how prettily they're cut.

0:53:100:53:12

This is, again, half of the technique of the Japanese cooking.

0:53:120:53:15

Peppers, aubergines, potato at the back there.

0:53:150:53:18

And here we have the teppanyaki. Is that so?

0:53:180:53:22

Yes, teppanyaki means grilled on a hot plate.

0:53:220:53:26

So what I am going to do is,

0:53:260:53:28

I am going to put a little bit of vegetable oil for start.

0:53:280:53:32

Onto this plate, which is by now very, very hot, everybody -

0:53:320:53:35

you must notice that.

0:53:350:53:37

You don't start this with a cold plate, otherwise the things

0:53:370:53:39

won't cook, because the technique is one of very rapid cooking.

0:53:390:53:42

-How are you feeling, Fred?

-Beautiful.

0:53:450:53:47

This is completely different, isn't it,

0:53:470:53:49

to what we've been used to, anyway.

0:53:490:53:51

You ate the raw fish quite happily,

0:53:510:53:53

but I guess you're looking forward to this cooked stuff now.

0:53:530:53:56

Yeah, I certainly am, yeah, I think it's going to be great.

0:53:560:53:58

That's one of my favourites, the king prawns, anyway.

0:53:580:54:01

And in case you should think that Fred and I

0:54:030:54:05

are a pair of sort of chauvinistic pigs,

0:54:050:54:08

taking advantage of the elegant hospitality of Chikako,

0:54:080:54:11

you must remember that Japanese hospitality and customs

0:54:110:54:15

are quite different from our own.

0:54:150:54:16

Had I been Chikako's husband, for example,

0:54:160:54:19

I would've probably helped fillet the fish, chop the vegetables

0:54:190:54:22

before this had started, or we'd share the role of preparing

0:54:220:54:25

a meal, which makes it into a harmonious occasion.

0:54:250:54:28

It's something, which, by the way, our chaps at home on Sunday mornings

0:54:280:54:32

could make life more amusing by making a few cocktails,

0:54:320:54:36

making the mustard sauce - fresh mustard instead of packet mustard -

0:54:360:54:39

and helping the wife produce a really super meal,

0:54:390:54:42

the kind of which I can now assure you we're having here.

0:54:420:54:44

What do you reckon, Fred? It's all going pretty good, isn't it?

0:54:440:54:47

It certainly is. This is really different.

0:54:470:54:51

I wonder, if you imagine that, you know,

0:54:510:54:53

you'd said to somebody 20 years ago that today, in 1984,

0:54:530:54:57

England will be, you know, covered in Chinese restaurants,

0:54:570:55:00

people would have laughed at you.

0:55:000:55:01

But I bet you the same is going to happen with Japanese food.

0:55:010:55:04

And soon - five years, maybe - there'll be a Japanese restaurant

0:55:040:55:07

in every village and every town over the country,

0:55:070:55:09

because with its high-protein and low-cholesterol food,

0:55:090:55:12

not only is it healthy, it's absolutely delicious.

0:55:120:55:15

It's really, really yummy. Just look at that sizzling away.

0:55:150:55:19

Keith, we love you. More from him next week.

0:55:240:55:26

Now, as ever on Best Bites, we're looking back at some of

0:55:260:55:29

our favourite recipes from the Saturday Kitchen archives.

0:55:290:55:31

Still to come on today's show...

0:55:310:55:33

Kenny Atkinson and Anthony Demetre try their hand

0:55:330:55:35

at the omelette challenge, but can they make it on the board?

0:55:350:55:39

Sophie Grigson cooks up

0:55:390:55:40

a fresh and light Mediterranean dish.

0:55:400:55:42

She makes a Sardinian clam soup

0:55:420:55:43

and serves it with traditional fregola pasta.

0:55:430:55:46

And actress Cherie Lunghi faces her food heaven or food hell.

0:55:460:55:50

Did she get her food heaven - mozzarella-stuffed chicken

0:55:500:55:53

with roasted tomatoes, aubergines and basil pesto?

0:55:530:55:55

Or her food hell -

0:55:550:55:56

gooseberry crumble with vanilla custard and ice cream?

0:55:560:55:59

You can find out what she got at the end of the show.

0:55:590:56:01

Next up, it's Vivek Singh who's here to show us a couple of tasty kebabs.

0:56:010:56:06

What's on the menu for you today, then, chef? Some kebabs, I believe.

0:56:060:56:09

Yeah, we've got some lamb mince

0:56:090:56:11

and we've got some fat from around the kidney.

0:56:110:56:13

And I'm going to turn this into a spiced lamb kebab.

0:56:130:56:17

-So we've got suet, basically, what we've got there.

-A little suet.

0:56:170:56:19

-I've got this cumin.

-Yeah.

-Sea salt.

0:56:190:56:22

-A bit of ground red chilli powder and a home-made garam masala.

-Yeah.

0:56:220:56:26

I've got some ginger and garlic and a green chilli.

0:56:260:56:29

And all that is going to go into...

0:56:290:56:31

-Now, you say this comes from different areas of India.

-Correct.

0:56:310:56:35

I mean, you know, before the partition, Punjab was one big thing.

0:56:350:56:39

Now, the Pakistan side of Punjab, where Lahore sits,

0:56:390:56:44

they do their seekh kebabs slightly differently

0:56:440:56:46

from the rest of the country.

0:56:460:56:47

So in India, in Punjab, you see a lot of...

0:56:470:56:49

On the Indian side of Punjab, you see a lot more tandoori influence

0:56:490:56:52

when we do a seekh kebab.

0:56:520:56:54

I've done one before, haven't I?

0:56:540:56:56

So, this is one of the most popular dishes, is it, over there?

0:56:560:56:59

Yes, this is possibly India's... You know, in the top three.

0:56:590:57:02

What is the most popular dish over in India?

0:57:020:57:05

-I would say it is the tandoori chicken.

-Right.

0:57:050:57:07

That is the most popular dish in India, or Indian cuisine.

0:57:070:57:11

The second would be a lamb seekh kebab.

0:57:110:57:14

And third, probably, is the... the stir-fried...

0:57:140:57:17

Indochinese-style stir-fried chilli chicken.

0:57:170:57:20

All right, OK. So, what spices have you got in there, then?

0:57:200:57:22

So I put some cumin, some ground garam masala,

0:57:220:57:25

which is a home-made, hot spice mix.

0:57:250:57:27

-Some red chillies. Some ginger, garlic and green chilli.

-OK.

0:57:270:57:33

-So, any chopped herbs in there, or not?

-Yeah.

0:57:330:57:36

So I'll just mix it up, and I'm going to add a little bit more,

0:57:360:57:39

a little bit of the coriander, chopped coriander -

0:57:390:57:41

that will go into it as well.

0:57:410:57:42

Now, the heat of that - is that from the spice that you've got in there?

0:57:420:57:45

Correct. When we say garam masala, it's the heat-inducing spices.

0:57:450:57:49

It's not because the spice mix is hot.

0:57:490:57:51

There's no chilli in there, in the hot spice mix.

0:57:510:57:53

-It's the heat-inducing properties it has.

-OK.

0:57:530:57:57

So all that nicely mixed up.

0:57:580:58:00

I'll wait for that until I ask you something.

0:58:060:58:09

It's come together, and you can see it's...

0:58:090:58:12

Now, if you want to do this at home for the barbecue, say,

0:58:120:58:14

and you didn't want to do lamb, you could take this recipe and use

0:58:140:58:17

exactly the same spices for chicken and beef and that kind of stuff?

0:58:170:58:20

You would want to do it with beef. The chicken, probably...

0:58:200:58:23

-Yeah, if you were using thighs, you could.

-Yeah.

0:58:230:58:26

So I mix this up.

0:58:260:58:28

I'm going to let it rest so the flavours level up.

0:58:280:58:31

And also chill the mix down.

0:58:310:58:34

There's some that I made earlier.

0:58:360:58:38

Now, this mix has been chilling away.

0:58:380:58:41

I've got a mixture here of diced peppers, onions.

0:58:410:58:45

Diced Peppers, onions, a bit of coriander in there.

0:58:450:58:48

Some sliced and some simply brunoise.

0:58:480:58:53

-They're two different versions we're talking about, right?

-OK.

0:58:530:58:56

OK, great, so...

0:58:560:58:58

-Now, life is still busy for you as well.

-Yes.

0:58:580:59:01

I hear you've been at the Taste Festival this week

0:59:010:59:03

doing demonstrations.

0:59:030:59:05

Yeah, I did a couple of demonstrations at Taste Festival.

0:59:050:59:07

-That's in Central London, this one, yeah?

-Yes.

0:59:070:59:10

Don't know if you've been...

0:59:100:59:11

If you haven't, it's a perfect London picnic.

0:59:110:59:13

It's where all the London restaurants come out...

0:59:130:59:15

come out to play, really, I suppose.

0:59:150:59:17

Come out and play more than anything else.

0:59:170:59:19

-Just put a bit of coriander in there.

-Yeah.

0:59:190:59:21

And I'll be good with that.

0:59:210:59:23

So, we've got these kebabs.

0:59:230:59:26

You can see I'm just wrapping them around the skewers, like this.

0:59:260:59:31

So they go around. I've got these three. Let's make a few.

0:59:320:59:36

Now, when I think of India, I've only been

0:59:360:59:38

-to sort of one area of India.

-Correct.

0:59:380:59:40

-Which is the southern area.

-Kerala.

-Kerala.

0:59:400:59:43

Which I thought was amazing.

0:59:430:59:44

The prawns over there were just spectacular.

0:59:440:59:46

But if you're a big foodie and you wanted to go to India

0:59:460:59:48

and experiment with different food, where would you recommend?

0:59:480:59:51

-Where would you recommend going first?

-There's a lot of history,

0:59:510:59:54

a lot of cooking around the northern part India.

0:59:540:59:58

Right from Kashmir to Punjab, you have a lot of cooking,

0:59:581:00:01

a lot of different varieties,

1:00:011:00:03

and Rajasthan is one of my favourite areas, if there has to be one.

1:00:031:00:06

There's a lot of very rustic cooking going on there.

1:00:061:00:10

-OK.

-Right.

-So, if you give me this, the salsa.

-There you go.

1:00:121:00:15

-Which then gets wrapped around... the seekh kebabs.

-All right.

1:00:151:00:20

So a nice, little...

1:00:201:00:22

Is that traditional, that you do that, or is that...?

1:00:221:00:25

-Yes.

-Are you just playing?

-No, no, no, I'm not playing.

1:00:251:00:28

this would be called a seekh kebab gilafi,

1:00:281:00:31

"gilaf" being a coat.

1:00:311:00:33

-You could be saying anything.

-Yes, I could be, actually.

-Yeah.

1:00:331:00:37

-Gilafi meaning coat?

-Coat. It's like a coat.

1:00:371:00:42

-So, you've got me some of those sliced...

-Yeah.

1:00:421:00:45

-So this is, in theory, like a little burger.

-This is a burger.

1:00:451:00:48

That is exactly... That's what it is.

1:00:481:00:50

So we've got... If you want to just do a few peppers and a few...

1:00:501:00:55

-Yeah.

-..tomatoes as well. That goes in.

1:00:551:00:58

So we do that one with a pepper on one and a tomato on the other.

1:00:591:01:03

-Right.

-Correct.

-OK.

1:01:031:01:05

-And that, that act of pressing it down, is called a chapli.

-Chapli.

1:01:071:01:13

Chapli, as in pressing it.

1:01:131:01:15

You've got two different vegetables on two different sides, have you?

1:01:151:01:17

-Have I ruined it?

-That's fine.

1:01:171:01:19

If you could make me some chutney. So there's some coriander there.

1:01:191:01:23

-Right.

-A bit of garlic,

1:01:231:01:26

a bit of chilli, some salt, sugar.

1:01:261:01:29

Salt, sugar. And you want this blended with a bit of heat in there?

1:01:291:01:32

-Correct. Just a bit of oil, yeah.

-OK.

1:01:321:01:35

-And in the meantime, I'm going to sweat some cabbage off.

-OK.

1:01:351:01:38

Just to use as a bit of garnish along with some pomegranate seeds.

1:01:381:01:42

Now, you're constantly busy.

1:01:421:01:44

-A new book, I know you're working on at the moment.

-Correct.

1:01:441:01:47

I just finished writing a book.

1:01:471:01:48

I thought I might as well get it out of the way in time for the cricket.

1:01:481:01:52

-For the cricket?

-Yeah.

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-Have you still got the TVs in your kitchen?

-Yes, I do, yeah.

1:01:551:01:58

At the moment, until recently, they were being put...

1:01:581:02:01

Are you allowed to do that, Jason, in yours?

1:02:011:02:02

-Allow the chefs to do that?

-Never.

-It's fantastic.

1:02:021:02:05

He has got televisions in every section of the kitchen

1:02:051:02:08

-for all the chefs to watch cricket while they're working.

-Wow.

1:02:081:02:12

-True, though, isn't it?

-Yeah.

1:02:121:02:14

What's cricket?

1:02:141:02:15

A good place to work!

1:02:151:02:19

It's very long hours, it's very long hours, James,

1:02:191:02:23

as you would have seen.

1:02:231:02:24

Right, so do you want a little bit of oil in here as well,

1:02:241:02:27

just to bind it together or something?

1:02:271:02:29

Just a little bit of oil.

1:02:291:02:30

-Or you can put a little bit of...

-JAMES COUGHS

1:02:301:02:33

-A-ha! It's getting to you.

-A bit of oil.

1:02:331:02:35

A bit of salt and a bit of, well, black pepper.

1:02:351:02:37

We've got salt and sugar in there as well.

1:02:371:02:39

-So, mix that together.

-Just a tiny bit of salt.

1:02:411:02:43

-You want these pomegranate as well, don't you?

-Yes, please.

1:02:451:02:47

OK. Now, what's the garnish that you're doing with this, then?

1:02:471:02:50

You've got the cabbage and pomegranate.

1:02:501:02:52

-Would that be something traditional?

-No, it isn't, it isn't.

1:02:521:02:55

It's just in season here,

1:02:551:02:56

and I thought that is something nice and crunchy to the dish.

1:02:561:03:00

So the idea of this is not to make it like a pesto,

1:03:001:03:02

-add too much oil. You just make it quite dry.

-No, just very light.

1:03:021:03:05

Actually, you could add... you could use just...

1:03:051:03:08

water or lemon juice to do this.

1:03:081:03:10

Right. Just a smaller bit, then.

1:03:101:03:13

-OK.

-Yeah.

1:03:131:03:15

So it's like quite a thick...pesto.

1:03:161:03:19

You just put a bit of water in there at the end?

1:03:201:03:23

Yeah, just to steam it through.

1:03:231:03:24

The kebabs look nice and cooked.

1:03:241:03:28

All coming together very nicely.

1:03:281:03:30

This kind of thing would be done...

1:03:321:03:35

At home, I do it on a barbecue.

1:03:351:03:37

-I don't have a tandoor at home.

-Yeah.

1:03:371:03:39

And these are the kind of dishes

1:03:391:03:40

that we find in our new book as well, Spice At Home.

1:03:401:03:43

It talks about the kind of cooking that I grew up with at home,

1:03:431:03:47

but also looks at how our cooking at home

1:03:471:03:49

has changed so much in the last 20 years.

1:03:491:03:51

But the spices that people should look for, cos often,

1:03:511:03:54

when I look at Indian food and you think it's so complicated

1:03:541:03:56

with all these different spices,

1:03:561:03:58

what are the main ones that you would go for?

1:03:581:04:01

Cos there are just a few main types, aren't there, really,

1:04:011:04:03

that people should have.

1:04:031:04:04

Yeah, you would start off with a very basic cumin, coriander,

1:04:041:04:08

chilli, peppercorn and fennel.

1:04:081:04:10

And these five spices...

1:04:101:04:11

And I like to think of, you know, spices as one to three.

1:04:111:04:14

There are five spices. These five would be a good starting point.

1:04:141:04:18

And when you've used them in many different combinations

1:04:181:04:20

and with various different ingredients,

1:04:201:04:23

and they become your friends, and you go on to use other spices.

1:04:231:04:26

So the clove, mace, cardamom and all that comes in next.

1:04:261:04:30

And a lot of onions.

1:04:301:04:32

-Onions, of course. Onions are the base of our cooking.

-Yeah.

1:04:321:04:36

You can see they're cooking off very nicely.

1:04:361:04:38

So, these ones are about there, ready.

1:04:381:04:40

I think they're done, anyway, so we'll...take these ones off.

1:04:401:04:43

So, let's look at these.

1:04:461:04:48

And, by the way, if you're going to do them on wooden skewers

1:04:491:04:51

on the barbecue, you've probably noticed that we...

1:04:511:04:54

We forgot to tell you, but you can take these and soak them in water.

1:04:541:04:57

It will stop them burning on your barbecue.

1:04:571:05:00

So soak them in water really well.

1:05:001:05:02

You pre-soak your skewers.

1:05:041:05:06

And there you go.

1:05:061:05:08

You've a bit of coriander going in here.

1:05:081:05:10

-And then you've got some of this salsa over the top.

-Oh, yes. Lovely.

1:05:101:05:14

So you just go with all this lovely salad on top...

1:05:141:05:18

-So, tell us the name of this dish.

-..all around it.

1:05:181:05:20

A barbecued lamb seekh kebab two ways.

1:05:201:05:23

-That's what it is.

-Look at that.

1:05:231:05:26

That looks like proper grub, that does.

1:05:301:05:33

Right, you get to dive into this.

1:05:331:05:34

Now, there's a bit of spice in this as well so it's quite hot.

1:05:341:05:39

Quite spicy, but...

1:05:391:05:41

-Well...

-I don't know where you're starting with this.

1:05:411:05:43

Should I take it off the skewer to begin with?

1:05:431:05:46

Work your way through it.

1:05:461:05:47

Hang on, I'm at the wrong end, I think. There we are.

1:05:471:05:49

That's good. We're there.

1:05:491:05:51

But if you are going to do these, prepare them,

1:05:511:05:53

pop them in the fridge, they'll firm up a little bit.

1:05:531:05:55

Exactly, you can do it beforehand. It's really easy.

1:05:551:05:58

Well, there's a lot to choose from here. Where do I start?

1:05:581:06:00

Do you want me to start with...?

1:06:001:06:02

Yeah, just dig in to one of the kebabs.

1:06:021:06:04

Mm. That's very nice.

1:06:071:06:08

Not too hot.

1:06:101:06:11

-Not too hot?

-Pretty good?

-No, no.

1:06:111:06:13

No, it's good, that. And like you say, if you're going to make these,

1:06:131:06:16

-pop them in the fridge and they'll firm up a little bit.

-Correct.

1:06:161:06:18

-Stop them falling through...

-And if you don't want to be bothered...

1:06:181:06:21

You don't want to be bothered with the searing of the kebabs,

1:06:211:06:24

just shape them like burgers, fill them into brioche buns

1:06:241:06:27

-and there you go.

-There you go.

1:06:271:06:28

So, if you're looking to avoid simple sausages

1:06:321:06:34

and boring burgers at your barbecue, give Vivek's creative kebabs a go.

1:06:341:06:37

Why not? Now, time for the omelette challenge

1:06:371:06:40

and this week, it's the turn of Anthony Dmitri and Kenny Atkinson

1:06:401:06:43

and both are keen to get their name on the board.

1:06:431:06:46

Right, let's get down to business.

1:06:461:06:48

Hopefully, one of you stands a chance of grabbing our top spot here

1:06:481:06:51

from Mr Rankin, 17.5 seconds.

1:06:511:06:53

Usual rules apply, guys. You've been here before.

1:06:531:06:55

-Yeah.

-Well, not in the studio.

1:06:551:06:57

Hopefully you're going to be as quick. Are you ready?

1:06:571:06:59

Let's put the clocks on the screens.

1:06:591:07:01

Three, two, one, go.

1:07:011:07:03

-This is where they get competitive.

-I can see, this is crazy!

1:07:111:07:14

GONG

1:07:321:07:34

Oh, no!

1:07:341:07:36

GONG

1:07:361:07:38

That was...

1:07:381:07:39

-No, we got there, roughly.

-Do I have to eat these?

1:07:391:07:43

-You can if you want.

-This is the nice part of the show,

1:07:431:07:45

-I get to eat this bit.

-Good, OK.

1:07:451:07:47

Mm, lovely.

1:07:471:07:48

-ANTHONY:

-They certainly don't score high for presentation, do they?

1:07:481:07:51

Well, you know, we've kind of got an omelette, both of you, you know.

1:07:511:07:54

-It's a wonder I aren't ill.

-THEY LAUGH

1:07:561:07:59

Anthony...

1:07:591:08:01

-Neither of you have been on the board.

-No.

-This board, especially.

1:08:041:08:08

Do you think you get into our top 10?

1:08:081:08:10

-No...

-I'd be surprised if that was under 20 seconds.

1:08:101:08:12

No, so would I!

1:08:121:08:13

You did it in 33.92 seconds,

1:08:131:08:15

which puts you in good company over here.

1:08:151:08:17

You're, you know, with a group of guys over here,

1:08:171:08:21

Mr Koffmann and Mr Kitchin and all that kind of stuff.

1:08:211:08:23

-Oh. Well, I can't complain about that.

-Yeah.

1:08:231:08:25

-Kenny.

-Yeah.

1:08:251:08:27

You did it...

1:08:301:08:32

-Do you like that one?

-You did it. I did, actually.

1:08:331:08:36

-I've made you a little one.

-THEY LAUGH

1:08:361:08:38

-It's a little mini egg.

-A quail's egg.

1:08:381:08:40

A little quail's egg.

1:08:401:08:41

-You did it in 30.48 seconds.

-Well done.

1:08:411:08:44

Which is not too bad, it puts you there with the lovely Rachel Allen.

1:08:441:08:48

-Lovely.

-Not bad, not a bad effort.

1:08:481:08:50

Loving the little egg there for Kenny. Nice touch, that.

1:08:541:08:57

Now, up next, cookery writer Sophie Grigson's here

1:08:571:08:59

to show us how to cook up a true taste of the Med.

1:08:591:09:03

We're going to be cooking, er, proper name,

1:09:031:09:06

-fregola con arselle.

-Right.

-Which is fregola...

1:09:061:09:09

-Which is this stuff here?

-Yeah. And doesn't it look odd?

1:09:091:09:12

-I mean, it doesn't look like pasta at all.

-No.

1:09:121:09:14

But it is a form of pasta and the toasting of the pasta

1:09:141:09:18

gives it a kind of bouncy texture, it's quite odd to describe.

1:09:181:09:21

-It's lovely, absolutely lovely and I adore it.

-OK.

1:09:211:09:23

-And it's quite a trendy ingredient, I think.

-Trendy ingredient.

1:09:231:09:26

-All right, OK.

-Yes, absolutely.

1:09:261:09:27

-But this is very classical Sardinian.

-OK.

1:09:271:09:30

So besides the fregola, we have some clams,

1:09:301:09:33

-lovely fresh clams.

-Yeah.

1:09:331:09:34

-We have saffron, which is just steeping in a bit of hot water.

-Yup.

1:09:341:09:37

Tomatoes, garlic, a little bit of chilli,

1:09:371:09:41

a little bit of lemon, we're just using the zest of that,

1:09:411:09:43

-parsley and some fish stock.

-Fish stock.

1:09:431:09:46

So, very straightforward. I want you...

1:09:461:09:48

As usual in the show, for the fourth week running,

1:09:481:09:50

this is all I get to do, is prepare tomatoes and that's it.

1:09:501:09:54

But it makes you an expert, doesn't it?

1:09:541:09:56

-There you go.

-Extra good at them.

1:09:561:09:58

I'm going to chop a bit of garlic and parsley

1:09:581:10:02

and that's just going to be fried gently...

1:10:021:10:06

as the basis of the broth.

1:10:061:10:07

-This is kind of more of a brothy stew.

-Yep.

1:10:071:10:10

-Or a stewy broth.

-Now, I was joking earlier,

1:10:101:10:12

you've seriously written, what, 20 books, is it?

1:10:121:10:15

-I'm on my 20th.

-You're on your 20th.

1:10:151:10:18

I've just started writing my 20th, I think.

1:10:181:10:21

I mean, that's if you include a lot of the sort of little,

1:10:211:10:23

-little ones, pamphlety books.

-Cos your first book was, what was it on?

1:10:231:10:26

-Veg, was it?

-No, that was my third book already.

-Third one, right, OK.

1:10:261:10:30

Third or fourth. No, my first book was a collection of recipes...

1:10:301:10:32

No, it wasn't, actually. That was my second book,

1:10:321:10:35

collection of recipes from the Evening Standard.

1:10:351:10:37

-I can't remember any more.

-You can't even remember yourself.

1:10:371:10:39

You get past a certain number and they mist up and...

1:10:391:10:42

Oh, you're so fast.

1:10:421:10:44

But this love of writing, I mean, it came from your mother, no?

1:10:441:10:47

I was... Well, both my parents were writers and I was brought up

1:10:471:10:50

in a household where, you know, writing was the thing.

1:10:501:10:52

My dad worked in the study upstairs...

1:10:521:10:54

-WHISPERS:

-..and we had to be quite going past...

1:10:541:10:56

-NORMALLY:

-..all the time, not to disturb him.

1:10:561:10:58

So it was very much sort of a writer's household

1:10:581:11:01

-where the word was important and food was important.

-Yeah.

1:11:011:11:03

Although my mum didn't start writing about food

1:11:031:11:06

till I was, I don't know, six or seven.

1:11:061:11:07

-Can I just turn this down a bit?

-Yeah.

-Ooh, it's very hot.

1:11:071:11:11

Just about to disappear here.

1:11:111:11:12

That's all right, put it over there. There you go.

1:11:121:11:14

So, yes, it wasn't, you know, food was always part of the household,

1:11:141:11:18

but, you know, lunches and meals were important

1:11:181:11:20

but it was only when my mother started going to France.

1:11:201:11:25

We all started going to France, my parents bought a house in France,

1:11:251:11:28

a cave in France, in fact.

1:11:281:11:29

A cave with no running water, no electricity,

1:11:291:11:32

everybody thought they were totally mad, this was in the early '60s.

1:11:321:11:35

-Right.

-And then my mum got very interested in the food.

1:11:351:11:38

-You're all done, are you?

-I'm all right, I'm all right.

1:11:381:11:40

-Oh, you're still on the case.

-That's your clam pan.

1:11:401:11:42

-That's my clam pan.

-You want to do that one.

1:11:421:11:44

-Oh, I wanted to do it the other way round.

-No.

1:11:441:11:46

-If you tell me that's my clam pan, I'll believe you.

-OK.

1:11:461:11:49

So, yes. So, here we've got a bit of garlic going in...

1:11:491:11:54

-bit of parsley.

-But your inspiration, you mention France,

1:11:541:11:56

your inspiration still comes from travelling and stuff?

1:11:561:11:59

Yeah, I don't travel as much as I used to,

1:11:591:12:01

once I had children I couldn't just pop off.

1:12:011:12:03

Also, when you have children, it starts getting more expensive.

1:12:031:12:06

You have to pay for them to come or find somebody to look after them.

1:12:061:12:09

And, now, do you know what I've done now to make life worse?

1:12:091:12:12

-I've got a dog as well.

-Dog.

-And my children are now old enough

1:12:121:12:14

to pass them off left, right and centre

1:12:141:12:16

but I have problems because I haven't got anybody

1:12:161:12:18

to sit my dog overnight. Terrible.

1:12:181:12:19

But, I mean, you mention travelling in France, but you're doing...

1:12:191:12:22

What are you doing, like, cookery weekends or something?

1:12:221:12:25

Yeah, it's just wonderful to be able to combine

1:12:251:12:28

two of my favourite things,

1:12:281:12:30

which is travelling and eating and going to markets.

1:12:301:12:32

So we're going to be going to Barcelona.

1:12:321:12:35

They're long weekends, gourmet weekends.

1:12:351:12:37

I hate the word gourmet but I can't think of anything else.

1:12:371:12:39

No, I was in Barcelona on Tuesday, I think. Monday or Tuesday.

1:12:391:12:42

-How was Barcelona?

-They've got an amazing market there.

1:12:421:12:45

-I mean, you mention Barcelona.

-Fabulous.

1:12:451:12:47

Probably the most, I mean, one of the nicest markets

1:12:471:12:49

-I think I've ever been to, La Boqueria market.

-Oh, La Boqueria?

1:12:491:12:53

It's absolutely a fabulous market, isn't it?

1:12:531:12:55

I love going in there in the morning

1:12:551:12:57

and there are people having breakfast and, in fact,

1:12:571:12:59

on the Barcelona tour that I'm doing,

1:12:591:13:01

one of the things will be breakfast at the La Boqueria market.

1:13:011:13:04

And I love those salt cod stalls,

1:13:041:13:07

you know, where they sell it already prepared,

1:13:071:13:09

-absolutely gorgeous.

-I can see Jerry's looking at...

1:13:091:13:11

-JAMES LAUGHS

-Big fan of markets, Jerry?

1:13:111:13:13

I've done the wrong thing here, I've just realised.

1:13:131:13:15

Wander around when you go out and about?

1:13:151:13:17

-Well, the stock market...

-The stock market!

-..is in trouble.

1:13:171:13:20

What are they talking about? They're talking and they're cooking?

1:13:201:13:23

-They're talking and we're cooking.

-And here's smoke coming out.

1:13:231:13:26

-It's steam.

-It's steam, it's meant to be there.

-OK.

1:13:261:13:30

-Whoops! Am I burning my garlic?

-That's all right.

1:13:301:13:32

Good job I've got you to watch over me.

1:13:321:13:34

-Is this what a kitchen is?

-This is what a kitchen is, Jerry, yeah.

1:13:341:13:37

-How's those tomatoes?

-I'm happening.

1:13:371:13:39

So, what have you got in the pan there?

1:13:391:13:41

I've just got garlic, chilli and parsley.

1:13:411:13:43

Chilli flakes.

1:13:431:13:45

I'm going to put my... Ooh, look, wonderful stock,

1:13:451:13:47

a nice jellied stock. In that goes.

1:13:471:13:49

You're going to throw over those... half the tomatoes in a minute.

1:13:491:13:53

You do need, for this dish,

1:13:531:13:55

you cannot get away with ready-made sort of stock pad or anything,

1:13:551:13:59

it has to be the real thing

1:13:591:14:01

because it's a really important flavour.

1:14:011:14:03

Big fan of seafood, Jerry? I know you like your beef.

1:14:031:14:07

-Yes, I like seafood, too.

-You like seafood? Right.

1:14:071:14:09

There you go. Right. Tomatoes. Go on, take those.

1:14:091:14:11

-OK, I'll take those.

-I'm doing them as quick as I can.

1:14:111:14:13

No, it's all right, it's nice of you to sous-chef.

1:14:131:14:16

You mentioned Sardinia for this dish.

1:14:161:14:17

Where did you get the inspiration for this, then?

1:14:171:14:19

Well, this comes from... I teach about once a month

1:14:191:14:22

at an Italian cookery school just off Marylebone High Street

1:14:221:14:25

and I love doing it, I love teaching people.

1:14:251:14:29

I love doing lessons with, you know,

1:14:291:14:31

they're enthusiastic cooks and we cook up a fantastic meal every time.

1:14:311:14:35

Complete strangers at the beginning,

1:14:351:14:37

-all great friends by the end of the day.

-Yeah.

1:14:371:14:39

This is a dish, I was doing research, I wanted to find out

1:14:391:14:42

a bit more about how fregola was used and I did this,

1:14:421:14:45

and then, to my horror, when I was teaching it for the first time,

1:14:451:14:49

it turned out that my assistant....

1:14:491:14:50

-I'm just sitting here, watching things.

-Go on, you're all right.

1:14:501:14:53

It's great watching you cook.

1:14:531:14:55

My assistant turned out to be Sardinian and she said,

1:14:551:14:58

"Oh, that's wonderful, my mother used to make this every week

1:14:581:15:00

"and it's the dish of my childhood."

1:15:001:15:02

And I was thinking, "Oh, my gosh", you know.

1:15:021:15:04

She really knows what this is meant to taste like

1:15:041:15:06

so I was very, very anxious. She was delighted.

1:15:061:15:08

And they always do it with clams, is that right?

1:15:081:15:10

Yep, it's a big clam dish.

1:15:101:15:11

-I mean, there's lots of other fregola dishes as well.

-Yeah.

1:15:111:15:14

-By the way, I've got my clams...

-Yeah.

1:15:141:15:15

..into a little bit of water here.

1:15:151:15:17

They're just opening up, in a covered pan, they won't take long,

1:15:171:15:19

they're beginning to open already. Thank you very much.

1:15:191:15:22

-You can stop now.

-Thanks very much, I've just finished.

1:15:221:15:25

Oh, he has. Oh, that's fine, then.

1:15:251:15:26

As soon as that comes up to the boil, you pour in the fregola.

1:15:261:15:29

Luckily, we've got some already cooking here.

1:15:291:15:32

-OK.

-My clams are nearly there.

-Where's the saffron gone?

1:15:321:15:35

You've stuck the saffron in water, hot water?

1:15:351:15:37

Just hot water, lovely saffron threads.

1:15:371:15:39

I would always advise people to buy threads, not the powder.

1:15:391:15:42

Now, we mention the saffron as well, which we've got here.

1:15:421:15:46

Now, on your travels,

1:15:461:15:47

often a lot of people go to sort of Tunisia and stuff like that.

1:15:471:15:50

Cheap saffron, what a bargain!

1:15:501:15:51

Well, people instantly think cheap saffron, don't they?

1:15:511:15:54

But you can't buy cheap saffron, it's got to be the real McCoy.

1:15:541:15:57

There is no such thing as cheap saffron.

1:15:571:15:59

If it's cheap, then it isn't saffron.

1:15:591:16:01

What do you think it is,

1:16:011:16:02

the outer casings of the saffron that they sell...?

1:16:021:16:04

-What, the cheap stuff?

-Yeah.

-Oh, I think at best

1:16:041:16:06

it's something like dried Marigold leaves.

1:16:061:16:08

And at worst there are forms of crocus,

1:16:081:16:10

-you know saffron is a kind of crocus?

-Yeah.

1:16:101:16:12

But it's one very particular kind of crocus

1:16:121:16:13

and they can use other forms of crocus which actually are toxic.

1:16:131:16:17

You don't use so much of this really to cause a problem

1:16:171:16:20

but it won't get the flavour and you'll be wasting your money.

1:16:201:16:23

-So, never, ever...

-At those markets on your travels,

1:16:231:16:25

never buy cheap saffron and also never buy...

1:16:251:16:27

-Never buy stuff like what one of my chefs did.

-What was that?

1:16:271:16:29

When they went over to Tunisia, bought a kilogram of oregano.

1:16:291:16:34

-Oh!

-It was OK until he brought it through customs

1:16:341:16:37

and it was in a clear bag.

1:16:371:16:39

-Couldn't walk straight afterwards.

-Oh, my God.

1:16:391:16:43

I think a pair of rubber gloves were involved. But, anyway...

1:16:431:16:46

Oh, boy!

1:16:461:16:48

I'm putting my clams in here.

1:16:481:16:50

And then I'm also going to add the saffron at this point,

1:16:501:16:53

right at the end so you preserve that flavour.

1:16:531:16:55

And you want some of this juice.

1:16:551:16:56

Now, the idea is we just let this settle, don't we?

1:16:561:16:58

Let it settle down a little bit.

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So you don't get that grit cos you can see an awful lot of grit

1:17:001:17:03

gathers right down at the bottom, so if you can give it

1:17:031:17:06

-a few minutes just to settle down.

-Yeah, see it on the bottom there.

1:17:061:17:09

-It's getting there.

-Don't get any in.

1:17:091:17:11

Cos it is one of those really horrible things, isn't it?

1:17:111:17:13

Have you ever had a mouthful of gritty shellfish

1:17:131:17:15

-or mussels with...?

-There we go. There you go.

-There we go.

1:17:151:17:18

So that's our dish. It's very simple and straightforward.

1:17:181:17:21

-I'll bring it over.

-Oh...

-Stick it in the pot.

1:17:211:17:23

..so refined, isn't it, having you?

1:17:231:17:25

Would you come and just do this in my kitchen?

1:17:251:17:27

It would be great, all the boring bits and carrying the heavy pots,

1:17:271:17:30

-I'd feel so ladylike.

-I'll get your lemon ready.

1:17:301:17:32

OK, so that's going in.

1:17:321:17:34

This is how it's served, just with a grated lemon over the top?

1:17:341:17:36

Just a little bit of grated lemon over the top.

1:17:361:17:38

A little drizzle of olive oil in, a little bit of extra parsley.

1:17:381:17:41

But that's it, so it's fresh, it's light, it's full of flavour.

1:17:411:17:44

It's so Mediterranean and you ought really to be

1:17:441:17:47

sitting by the sea somewhere.

1:17:471:17:49

Erm...

1:17:491:17:50

OK? Are you going to do my little...?

1:17:501:17:53

I'll do you that while you explain what it is again.

1:17:531:17:55

-Remind us what this dish is.

-So this is fregola, which is the pasta,

1:17:551:17:58

con arselle, with clams, fresh from Sardinia.

1:17:581:18:02

With some grated lemon on the top. Done.

1:18:021:18:04

Bit of grated lemon on the top and that's it. Pasta.

1:18:041:18:07

-Little round of applause over there.

-Very nice.

1:18:111:18:13

-This is what you get to dive into.

-Does this come in a TV dinner?

1:18:131:18:16

THEY LAUGH

1:18:161:18:18

He should have them microwaved.

1:18:181:18:20

We can give you that, you can take it home. There you go.

1:18:201:18:22

-Tell me what you think.

-Don't you get to eat this?

1:18:221:18:25

-No, this is what you get to eat and then it...

-Is this a trick?

1:18:251:18:28

-No, no, this is...

-Little do you know the secret ingredient.

1:18:281:18:31

LAUGHTER DROWNS SPEECH

1:18:311:18:34

-OK.

-See, now we'll all watch you...

-Well, wait, do you need a spoon?

1:18:341:18:37

-You've got a spoon, yeah.

-Yeah, cos you can't...

1:18:371:18:39

You can't eat soup with a fork, Jerry.

1:18:391:18:41

That's what I'm thinking. And I should...

1:18:411:18:42

Tell us what you think of the pasta as well.

1:18:421:18:45

And the pasta, OK.

1:18:451:18:47

Well, you don't want to eat the whole thing.

1:18:471:18:49

-Oh...

-Don't eat the shells.

-In your own time.

-I'm ready.

1:18:491:18:52

-Well, it's got shells in there.

-You can take it out the shell.

1:18:521:18:55

Well, fine, why don't you put your fingers in my food?

1:18:551:18:57

-There you go, done.

-I've never had...

1:18:571:19:00

-James, have you ever had...?

-I'll see you in hell.

1:19:001:19:03

OK, here we go.

1:19:031:19:05

I remember Pierre Koffmann telling a story of how he'd had somebody

1:19:051:19:08

in his restaurant who was served sea urchins.

1:19:081:19:10

-And chewing on the shells.

-And the plate came back empty.

1:19:101:19:14

-It's very good.

-Is it all right?

-That's all you get.

1:19:141:19:16

-You've got to pass it down, you see.

-Oh.

1:19:161:19:18

You don't get any more, that's it.

1:19:181:19:19

You've got to learn to eat a lot more on this show.

1:19:191:19:22

Could you make it with mussels and stuff like that?

1:19:221:19:24

I don't see why not.

1:19:241:19:26

I'm not sure whether the sweetness of mussels would be so good with it.

1:19:261:19:29

But, yes, of course you could.

1:19:291:19:31

-And clams are harder to get hold of, aren't they?

-Steve?

1:19:311:19:34

-Fine.

-This is your starter.

-Mm, I can really taste the lemon.

1:19:341:19:37

-Oh, that's lovely.

-Getting it through?

-Come back, Jerry.

1:19:371:19:40

Does Jerry Springer actually know how to eat?

1:19:441:19:46

Touch-and-go there for a minute, I thought.

1:19:461:19:49

Now, when Cherie Lunghi came to the studio to face her food heaven

1:19:491:19:52

or food hell she was hoping for mozzarella to be the main ingredient

1:19:521:19:54

but was grossed out by gooseberry. Let's find out what she got.

1:19:541:19:58

It's time to find out whether Cherie will be facing food heaven

1:19:581:20:01

or food hell. Everybody here has made their minds up.

1:20:011:20:03

To remind you, food heaven would be this little thing over here,

1:20:031:20:06

buffalo mozzarella. Beautiful buffalo mozzarella.

1:20:061:20:08

Produced in Hampshire, this sort of stuff.

1:20:081:20:10

We'll talk about it if it gets picked.

1:20:101:20:12

Stuffed inside a chicken breast,

1:20:121:20:13

flour, egg and breadcrumbs,

1:20:131:20:14

with some slow-roasted tomatoes, some basil in there.

1:20:141:20:17

Nice little pesto, griddled aubergines.

1:20:171:20:18

Alternatively, gooseberries from my garden,

1:20:181:20:20

nice little gooseberry crumble.

1:20:201:20:22

We've got a lovely proper custard with it,

1:20:221:20:24

-and a vanilla ice cream, home-made vanilla ice cream.

-Ooh.

1:20:241:20:27

How do you think these lot have decided?

1:20:271:20:29

We know what people at home wanted. 2-1 to heaven.

1:20:291:20:31

-Have they stuck by you, do you think?

-Yeah...

1:20:311:20:33

I don't know, we'll see, we'll see, we'll see.

1:20:331:20:35

They have stuck by you. Yes, it is food heaven.

1:20:351:20:38

Yeah, yeah, pretty good. Everybody stuck by you. There you go.

1:20:381:20:40

It was just Mark to blame over there.

1:20:401:20:43

Yeah, he stuck by his guns and went for gooseberries.

1:20:431:20:45

So anyway, basically what we're going to do, lose that,

1:20:451:20:48

out of the way, and if you can slow roast me the tomatoes, please, Mark?

1:20:481:20:51

-Yeah.

-That would be great. Basically, with these,

1:20:511:20:53

-you know that you get the sun blush tomatoes?

-Yeah.

1:20:531:20:55

Well, this is how to make them without the sun.

1:20:551:20:57

-We don't have that around here.

-We don't have much of that, no.

1:20:571:21:00

So, literally cut the tomatoes in half, like that.

1:21:001:21:03

A little bit of thyme.

1:21:031:21:05

You can put a little bit of garlic on there, salt,

1:21:051:21:07

-pepper and olive oil.

-Yeah.

-Pop them in the oven. That's it.

1:21:071:21:10

-And they come out like these.

-Mm.

-And then they go in the oven.

1:21:101:21:12

If you've got one of those warming drawers at home, brilliant,

1:21:121:21:15

or an Aga, stuff like that, really low oven, anything like that. Great.

1:21:151:21:18

And what do you want me to do here?

1:21:181:21:19

You can make a pesto, so a touch of garlic,

1:21:191:21:22

save me a little bit of the basil, that's it.

1:21:221:21:24

And then basically just blend that all up into a nice little pesto.

1:21:241:21:27

Right, chicken.

1:21:271:21:28

We're going to insert the mozzarella in the chicken.

1:21:281:21:31

Now, what we need to do is treat this like a chicken Kiev,

1:21:311:21:33

and to do that we just open it up,

1:21:331:21:35

but make the small incision in there,

1:21:351:21:37

that's why you use one of these boning knives.

1:21:371:21:39

But we open the chicken up from the inside,

1:21:391:21:42

so you create as small a hole as possible.

1:21:421:21:44

-So you're cutting the chicken...

-Keyhole surgery.

1:21:441:21:46

Keyhole surgery. Like that.

1:21:461:21:48

So you open it all up, that's what we're looking for.

1:21:481:21:50

All right? See, that's when you normally stuff your butter in,

1:21:501:21:53

but you've got a decent amount. I'll actually leave the leg on here,

1:21:531:21:56

because I think this is a really nice taste, this.

1:21:561:21:58

We've got the mozzarella here, which we can just cut in half.

1:21:581:22:02

And then straight in, half again,

1:22:021:22:04

and it's basically just pop the mozzarella straight in.

1:22:041:22:07

Now, like I said, this stuff is produced in Hampshire.

1:22:071:22:11

-OK.

-And it is the leading person of mozzarella in the UK,

1:22:111:22:16

and it is fantastic, this sort of stuff.

1:22:161:22:18

When you say the leading, is there another one?

1:22:181:22:20

I think there are a few people making it,

1:22:201:22:22

but this guy's got about 3,000 buffalo,

1:22:221:22:24

produced at Laverstoke Park, and it's just amazing stuff.

1:22:241:22:28

And supermarkets are starting to sell it now, just delicious.

1:22:281:22:31

We're going to grab our tomato in there as well.

1:22:311:22:33

-Sorry.

-Sorry, am I in your way?

1:22:331:22:34

Just take a little bit of a tomato, that can go in.

1:22:341:22:37

And just pop it in there,

1:22:371:22:38

-because you like all that tomato and basil flavours.

-Yeah, love all that.

1:22:381:22:41

In we go with the basil, stick that in.

1:22:411:22:44

So, literally you're just ramming it full, all in there.

1:22:441:22:47

-You can see the mozzarella's sat in there.

-Yeah.

1:22:471:22:50

Now, what we need to do is flour, egg and breadcrumb this,

1:22:501:22:52

or what chefs call to panee.

1:22:521:22:54

All right? It's very straightforward.

1:22:541:22:57

Basically, you just get...

1:22:571:22:59

-Do you want to go there?

-It's all right.

-OK.

1:22:591:23:02

He'll move around you, don't you worry.

1:23:021:23:04

-Don't want to get in the way.

-Flour, egg,

1:23:041:23:05

and we just get a little bit of egg, like that,

1:23:051:23:07

and then breadcrumbs.

1:23:071:23:09

Now, these are panko breadcrumbs or Japanese breadcrumbs,

1:23:091:23:12

and these are different to our normal ones,

1:23:121:23:13

these are really crisp. Can you taste them?

1:23:131:23:16

And what they do, they dry out the bread, they dry the bread out...

1:23:161:23:19

-Can you slice that aubergine for me, please?

-I can, indeed.

1:23:191:23:22

And a little bit of olive oil.

1:23:221:23:23

They dry these out, and then grate them.

1:23:231:23:25

-Oh.

-And what you end up is with a really crispy crumb.

1:23:251:23:28

-It's like a rice crispie, almost.

-Yeah, really, really nice.

1:23:281:23:31

So all we do is...

1:23:311:23:32

And all we do is pop that in there,

1:23:321:23:34

so we double flour and double egg,

1:23:341:23:36

and it's important to do that with anything that's stuffed

1:23:361:23:38

inside a chicken breast, cos you want it to basically stay in there,

1:23:381:23:41

you don't want it to burst open.

1:23:411:23:43

So we take the whole lot...

1:23:431:23:45

And you can take this now, and it's too big to fry all the way through,

1:23:451:23:49

but we'll deep fat fry it first. All right?

1:23:491:23:51

Now, this is just to colour the outside.

1:23:511:23:53

I'm going to finish it off cooking in the oven.

1:23:531:23:56

Right, the aubergines,

1:23:561:23:57

we can put a little bit of salt and pepper on there.

1:23:571:23:59

-Please, Mark.

-Yeah.

-And then some olive oil.

1:23:591:24:01

There's no need to salt aubergines any more.

1:24:011:24:03

-Why not? How do you get the water out?

-Thank you.

1:24:031:24:06

Well, over the years... they've produced aubergines now

1:24:061:24:08

that have got so little water in there

1:24:081:24:10

-you don't need to do it any more.

-I see.

1:24:101:24:12

And they're not bitter, any more.

1:24:121:24:13

So all we do with this is just take...

1:24:131:24:16

some of that, pop your aubergines straight in there.

1:24:161:24:19

There you go. A little slice of that one.

1:24:191:24:21

-OK, ready.

-You've done it? Have you got some Parmesan in there?

-Oh, yes.

1:24:211:24:24

-So we've got pesto, but made proper pesto.

-Yeah, myself.

1:24:241:24:28

There you go, and that's your nice little pesto,

1:24:281:24:30

and try and do it in a pestle and mortar, it tastes so much better.

1:24:301:24:33

If I just get you a little taste of this, you'll taste it's...

1:24:331:24:35

-I'd love to taste it.

-The secret of mozzarella is

1:24:351:24:37

that it needs to be eaten as fresh as possible.

1:24:371:24:39

So that's why I think buying British

1:24:391:24:42

is, if you can get it, better.

1:24:421:24:45

There you go.

1:24:451:24:46

I know there's going to be Italians that will be going nuts

1:24:461:24:48

watching this, but...you've got to taste this stuff first,

1:24:481:24:51

cos it is absolutely delicious.

1:24:511:24:53

-Lovely.

-It is lovely, isn't it?

-Yeah. Yeah.

1:24:531:24:55

-Really, really nice.

-Yeah, that's good.

-Bit of salt.

1:24:551:24:58

If you can get me some...

1:24:581:25:00

Now, the thing about this olive oil...

1:25:001:25:01

Where's my rosemary gone? There you go.

1:25:011:25:04

The thing about this olive oil...

1:25:041:25:05

If you can pick me some basil leaves as well.

1:25:051:25:07

You mustn't just keep adding it when you're frying aubergine,

1:25:071:25:10

because it basically acts like a sponge,

1:25:101:25:12

and now all of a sudden, when it stops cooking, it just dumps out.

1:25:121:25:15

That's... Yeah. So what's the trick? You get the oil really hot?

1:25:151:25:18

You get it really, really hot, that's the key to this,

1:25:181:25:20

and particularly on a griddle pan,

1:25:201:25:21

that's why if you're doing this you can chargrill it on a barbecue,

1:25:211:25:24

-which is really nice.

-So it doesn't absorb the oil.

-Yeah.

1:25:241:25:26

So, basically, it looks as if it's dry, like this...

1:25:261:25:29

But you'll see as it's cooking...

1:25:291:25:31

it'll then start to absorb in that oil and then it'll cook

1:25:311:25:34

all the way through, but if I add too much it's going to fry,

1:25:341:25:36

-and it's not going to taste very nice.

-And get soggy. Yeah.

1:25:361:25:39

Yeah. So the chicken, here.

1:25:391:25:40

There you go. See, it's nicely fried off,

1:25:401:25:42

and the great thing about this, you can do this for a dinner party,

1:25:421:25:45

leave it like that, pop it in the fridge,

1:25:451:25:46

and then just whack it in the oven when you need to.

1:25:461:25:48

-Right, at the last minute.

-So, in the oven.

1:25:481:25:51

Now, this has gone in about 400 degrees centigrade, this chicken,

1:25:511:25:54

and it wants to go in for at least probably a good ten minutes,

1:25:541:25:58

10, 12 minutes because they're decent-size chicken breasts,

1:25:581:26:01

these ones. Just allow that to sit to one side.

1:26:011:26:03

-How are we doing, guys? Right...

-Good.

1:26:031:26:05

Pan. Pop your tomatoes...

1:26:051:26:08

back in there.

1:26:081:26:10

Bit of that.

1:26:101:26:12

-They can go in.

-Smells fantastic.

1:26:121:26:13

Well, it's rosemary, it's everything else, it's all that sort of stuff.

1:26:131:26:17

-I love all that. Plenty of olive oil.

-So Italian.

1:26:171:26:19

Little bit of the old pesto.

1:26:221:26:24

Touch of basil. That's going to go in as well.

1:26:241:26:26

Shall I put this in there?

1:26:261:26:27

Yeah, just a touch.

1:26:271:26:30

That'll do, thank you.

1:26:301:26:32

Little bit of that.

1:26:321:26:34

-Everything that you like, I think, with this one.

-Yeah.

1:26:341:26:36

-Yes, yes, my favourite.

-The aubergines...

1:26:361:26:39

Nice and simple. You've got the tomatoes which, again,

1:26:391:26:42

it's like these simple sun-blushed tomatoes, a little bit of that...

1:26:421:26:47

Put a little bit of the pesto.

1:26:471:26:48

Oh, look at that, she's got it all there and ready.

1:26:481:26:51

Ahh! I can read your mind by now.

1:26:511:26:52

There you go, look at that! And then we've got the chicken.

1:26:521:26:56

And you can tell when it's ready because it'll start...

1:26:561:26:58

It's a bit like a Kiev, it actually starts to open up nicely,

1:26:581:27:01

because you've got the...

1:27:011:27:03

You want a serrated knife for this one.

1:27:031:27:05

-It's like Strictly Come Dancing, isn't it?

-Sort of, yeah.

1:27:051:27:08

There you go. And if I open that up, look.

1:27:081:27:11

-Oh, gorgeous!

-Oh, my! Ooh...

1:27:111:27:12

That's the tomato, you've got basil in there as well.

1:27:121:27:15

And it hasn't all leaked out, you see, because of the keyhole.

1:27:151:27:18

-No, that's the idea.

-Yes.

-Probably needed a bigger plate.

1:27:181:27:21

Yeah, smells beautiful. Shame we can't do sense-o-rama on TV.

1:27:211:27:24

-Smell-o-rama.

-Yeah, smells! Oh...

-Smell-o-vision.

-Beautiful.

1:27:241:27:28

Dive into that, tell us what you think.

1:27:281:27:30

Little smidgen of olive oil round the edge.

1:27:301:27:32

Get your weapons. Thank you.

1:27:321:27:34

There you go, over the top. Watch your hand on that.

1:27:341:27:36

Yes, thank you, I will.

1:27:361:27:37

Do you want to bring over the glasses, guys, please?

1:27:371:27:39

-This is so stunning.

-There you go, Sally.

1:27:391:27:41

-And he just did them in the oven.

-You will get some, Sally,

1:27:411:27:43

-I promise you.

-Oh, good!

-Have a little bit of the mozzarella.

1:27:431:27:46

-What do you think of that?

-Absolutely stunning.

1:27:461:27:48

-Happy with that?

-Very good. Very, very beautiful.

-So sweet!

1:27:481:27:51

Dive into the BRITISH mozzarella, if you've ever tried that.

1:27:511:27:53

-So you just put those in the oven?

-Yeah, literally.

1:27:531:27:55

-The tomatoes are gorgeous.

-A couple of hours like that,

1:27:551:27:58

-intensifies the flavour.

-What, couple of hours for the tomatoes?

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-That's all you need.

-Right.

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Winner, winner, chicken dinner.

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Well, I'm afraid that's all we've got time for

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on this morning's instalment of Best Bites.

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I hope you've enjoyed taking a look back at

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some of the delicious dishes that have featured

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on Saturday Kitchen over the years.

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I certainly have. Have a fantastic week, and I'll see you soon!

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