11/06/2017 Saturday Kitchen Best Bites


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Good morning. There's a seriously tasty menu

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lined up for you on today's show,

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so there's only one thing for you to do - sit back and enjoy another

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serving of Saturday Kitchen Best Bites.

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Welcome to the show.

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Now, we have talented chefs serving up top class food and

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celebrity guests galore. Trust me, you won't want to miss any of it.

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Coming up on today's show,

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James Martin serves a chocolate fudge brownie sundae for Ruby Wax,

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Martin Blunos is here, celebrating British pork.

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He pan-fries slices of pork fillet, sautes leftover potatoes

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with bacon and cheese and serves with a dry tartare sauce.

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Jason Atherton shows us a delicious dish, using Barbary duck.

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He cooks up confit duck leg and pan-fried duck breast with

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a tangy cherry sauce and a chocolate ganache.

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Battling it out for omelette challenge glory

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we have the laudable Lawrence Keogh and the awesome Angela Hartnett.

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And with Lawrence on a time of just under 18 seconds going into

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this, it should be a quick one. And then, it's over to Atul Kochhar,

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who is serving up a pie that originated in a sports club.

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He makes a pie filling of chicken, carrots, onions, spices,

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cooked in coconut milk, and then he tops with a puff pastry lid,

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sprinkled with coriander, cumin and black sesame seeds.

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And finally, comedian Katy Brand faces her food heaven or food hell.

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Did she get her food heaven, coriander fish curry with

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coriander flatbreads, or her food hell, grilled pork chop with

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crisp black pudding, cider sauce and greens?

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You can find out what she got at the end of the show.

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But first, it's over to a chef who runs the only two-star

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restaurant in Scotland.

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It's the amazing Andrew Fairlie and he's here to show us how to

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home-smoke lobster.

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Good to have you on the show, Andrew. First time on the show.

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-And straight into it, two dishes.

-Yes.

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-With a homage for two people, Michel and...

-Michel and Michel.

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Michel Guerard, where I did my scholarship, and Michel Roux,

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-who sent me there.

-Right, so we're going to do lobster.

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Run through the sauce for this.

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We've got some cream, butter, herbs, tarragon...

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We've got some lime juice, some cream,

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and if you can just crack on with a basic lime and butter sauce.

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I'll explain how we're doing that while I'm doing it,

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but this is for the smoked lobster dish.

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This is for the smoked lobster, yeah.

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-But your other one, which we've got...

-Is mango sauce.

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So we've got some Alphonso mangoes there,

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which we're going to blitz in here. Again, we're going to add some lime

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juice to that with some sherry vinegar.

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A little bit of hot water, just to get the mangoes going.

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And then we're going to pour in some light olive oil, a little bit

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of seasoning, and that's what we're going to season the salad with.

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And that's that one. OK.

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-So this is the smoking the lobster business.

-Yeah.

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So first thing I'm going to do is to get these shells in to smoke.

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-Yeah.

-So it's just actually the shell we smoke for this.

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We don't actually smoke the meat.

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And this comes from the restaurant. Did he actually smoke it...?

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-You're doing it in shavings of whisky barrels, but...?

-Yeah.

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Michel Guerard used to do it...

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We had a chimney where he used to burn old vines and fruit wood

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and things like that.

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-Yeah.

-And then he used to grill meat and fish over that.

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And it gave it this kind of really beautiful smoky flavour.

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So at the restaurant, what we started to do...

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Well, actually, we'd been playing around with it for a while now,

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and because we don't have an old-fashioned chimney,

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we just started to cold smoke it in the restaurant,

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so we're going to hot smoke it today.

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But normally in the restaurant,

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-we would cold smoke it and it would take about six hours to do.

-Right.

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Now most people looking at that meat would look at the green and just...

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-But that's fine.

-It's the best part of the lobster.

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-Yeah.

-Tastes absolutely fantastic.

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I'm just going to wipe my hands here.

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There you go. Right. Smokey. This is the shavings of the whisky barrels.

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Yeah, so you can actually smell the kind of sweetness of the whisky.

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Once we've finished with the barrels, we have

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a deal with one of the distilleries where we get the shavings from it.

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So this is actually hot smoking the shells now.

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-There's a sink at the back to wash your hands.

-Yeah.

-There

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you go. Right, I've made my sauce, which is basically, that's it.

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You've got the lime, little bit of cream,

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and the butter's been whisked to it.

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Just literally whisk it off the heat.

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That's fine. If you just leave that there just now.

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And then you want me to prep the salad. I'll do that salad.

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Meanwhile, you're going to do the rest of it.

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Yeah, again, I think people are put off by lobster because they

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think it's fiddly and it's difficult to eat.

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But the dishes that we're going to do today,

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it's completely out of the shell.

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And again, to get the cartilage out of the claw meat,

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basically just pull the smaller claw and it just takes the cartilage out.

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-Clean.

-Now, you were 20 when you entered the competition.

-Yeah.

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It's literally just happened, the 28th year, we're both judging it.

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It is actually probably the most nervous competition and the

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toughest competition for chefs.

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It is, absolutely.

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I've been judging it for a couple of years now and I really feel

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for the guys.

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You saw it this year, it's a terrifying experience to go through.

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They're all great.

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I think it's the two of these that are looking at you. The two Rouxs.

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He was the youngest ever to win the competition.

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-He was not quite in his nappy any more, but...

-I needed one that day!

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But I'm still extremely proud of you for where you've come from,

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what you've learned, and where you are today.

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-Well done.

-It's a thing that you talk about quite a lot.

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Because it is like a who's who, really, of chefs.

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This competition.

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Yeah, I mean the winners, there's some great, great cooks out there.

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And as I say, we spent three days in Germany just a couple of weeks ago.

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We have a thing for those that win the scholarship.

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We have a kind of Roux scholars club.

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Every couple of years,

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Michel takes us away to exotic locations like Gleneagles and Dubai

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and Italy, so we're just back just a few days ago from Germany,

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a kind of study trip.

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Study trip! I've heard it was like a stag do!

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-It was.

-It was like a stag do, I've just heard!

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-Yeah, we went to see...

-Your wife told me it was like a stag do!

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Six o'clock in the morning, you were rolling in!

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No, no. That was when we were closing the bar!

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No, during the day, the chicken farm, the brewery,

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tasting wine, and so on and so forth.

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Anyway, he's cooking, I think. Andrew is cooking.

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So, what have we got here? We've prepped our lobster.

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Now, the chippings there - you can buy these chippings from

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garden centres nowadays.

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Yeah, you can.

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Look at this! They just look fantastic!

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Yeah, the smell really is great.

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So what I'm going to do now is take one of these halves out.

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So you can see that's quite heavy smoking,

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so what we don't want to do is... I'll just put that there.

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We really don't want to smoke the meat too much because it's

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such a delicate meat.

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-Probably move that over there.

-Yeah, great, thanks.

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So we're just going to put a little of the lime sauce in the

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bottom there.

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Now I'm just going to slice the lobster meat back into the shell.

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While you do that, I'll just explain what our salad is.

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We've got some avocado here, some mango, which I've just diced.

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In the blender there we've got some mango.

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And you're going to add a little bit of lime to this?

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-Yeah. Some... No. Ah, to the sauce?

-Yeah.

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Yes. A bit of sherry vinegar, a bit of lime, and some light olive oil.

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OK. A touch of water or not?

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Yeah, you will need some water, just to get the mango going.

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Yeah. OK.

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And then we might add a little more water at the end, just to..

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And then you add some olive oil to that. So I'll keep that blending.

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-So those go back on the shell.

-Goes back in the shell.

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Just going to put a little bit of water in the bottom there.

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Just to create a bit of steam.

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So tell us about the Gleneagles Hotel cos everybody knows

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about it for obviously the golf.

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But the ethos of your restaurant. It's still very classically French.

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It is, yeah. I mean, all my training was done, most of it in France.

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I did a classical four-year apprenticeship where we

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cooked really from the Escoffier repertoire, so it was very,

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very classical.

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The food's moved on, it's evolved.

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You know, these sauces, Michel did this sauce 30 years ago.

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It's still very relevant today.

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You know, I'm not sure how long a dried carrot foam is going to

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be around for but the mango sauce and the smoked lobster...

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I'll leave you to finish it off. There you go.

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A bit of basil gone in there.

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-Basil, mango, vinegar, lime juice is in there?

-Lime juice is in there.

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You might want a little bit more in there.

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We've got some herbs in there. Right.

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So we're just adding olive oil there, just to emulsify the sauce.

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Yeah.

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Herbs going in there. Last minute.

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-You want to pass that as well?

-Yeah, if you can pass it, please.

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Let me just taste this quickly, James.

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Just for...

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I'll use a sieve. Here we go.

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So as well as that and everything else, you're doing a book as well.

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Yeah, we're in the process of...

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It's the tenth anniversary of our restaurant next year,

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so we're in the process of putting a book together for that.

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-Which as you know is very time-consuming.

-It is a bit.

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I'll leave you to put the lobster on the plate there.

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And I'll be ready with this one in a second.

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-Just pass that.

-Very smooth. Look at the texture. Beautiful texture.

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It should be, it's your recipe!

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-I've adapted it slightly.

-Well, that's your line, anyway.

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-There you go.

-OK, so I'm going to take this lobster out of there.

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So you can smell the smoke has just infused into the meat there.

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Now, what I'm going to do is just take some of the smoking

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liquid that's left in the pan, just thin that sauce down a little bit.

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Yeah.

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And I'm just going to put a little bit over the lobster meat.

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So the meat there is just warm, it's not overcooked.

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Can actually smell the smokiness from it as well.

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So that's that one. I'll leave you to finish that one.

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And then for the lobster salad, so we've got the avocado,

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the mango, the mixed salad.

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-Yeah.

-A little bit of the mango dressing in there.

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Beautiful summer salad.

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-Just going to take the lobster right on the top.

-Is he doing it right?

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Perfectly right.

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Better than I used to show him.

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There you go.

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And I'm just going to finish that with the claw on the top.

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-Dressing.

-And then just...

-The smells from this are just...

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A little dribble of the mango sauce around the outside.

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There you have it. So remind us what that was again, Andrew.

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So there we've got the warm smoked lobster,

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with the warm lime butter and herb sauce.

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And here, we've got the mango salad with the basil dressing.

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The lobster salad with the mango and basil dressing.

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I told you at the top of the show you were in for a treat. Check that out.

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There you go. You get to dive in to this. Who would like first...?

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-Right, dive in.

-Oh, my word!

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Taste that!

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-Dive into that.

-Which one?

-Whichever.

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Taste any of them. Taste the warm one first. There you go.

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Go for the smoked one first.

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But like you said, that's just a classic from the restaurant

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where you trained, when you won.

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We've still got on the menu after 28 years, that lobster, lightly smoked.

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I was there only last year.

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Good dishes, good recipes, last forever.

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It's like Troisgros with the escalope of salmon with

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sorrel and all that sort of stuff. Should never be taken off.

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When we talk about Andrew's cooking and said classic.

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Of course, it's classic French, but it's modern classic.

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His evolution over the last 20 years has been fantastic.

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-But still keeping what I call the heritage.

-High praise indeed.

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-And you're not going to get any if you don't hurry up and eat it!

-Yes.

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The perfect dish for a spot of indulgence on a hot summer's day.

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Thanks for that, Andrew. Coming up,

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James serves a chocolate fudge brownie sundae for Ruby Wax,

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but first, it's over to Rick Stein, who's in Corsica,

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finding out about the fantastic famous Figatelli sausage.

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'This is the centre of Bastia

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'and this is why it's called Bastia, a bastion.

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'And, whenever the town was threatened,

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'this is where the townspeople came for protection.

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'And it was where I met, quite by chance,

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'a party of schoolchildren on a history tour.

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'And, of course, I couldn't resist asking them

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'what their favourite Corsican dishes were.'

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Le meilleur plat de Corse, c'est un poulet et les figatelli.

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-Celine?

-La coppa.

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Er, Jean-Jacques?

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HE REPLIES IN FRENCH

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Et Remy?

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Les canistrelli.

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C'est bon.

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Fantastic.

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Now, I wonder if you asked the same question

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of a group of English children,, British children,

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very difficult thing to ask,

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not trying to rub people's noses in it

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but all these kids know their dishes so well

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and they're all the sort of dishes that I would suspect they'd choose,

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not burgers and chips.

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Goodbye!

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Bye!

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'Most of the children said they really liked figatelli,

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'Corsican sausages.

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'And here, in the village of Murato -

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'famous for its charcuterie -

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'the best are made from the Corsican black pig.

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'Pascal Fleury farms his own

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'because he says farming your own pigs is the start, if you like,

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'of the whole business of making charcuterie to be proud of.

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'And this is it - the famous figatelli.'

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And it's made with all the bloody offal, notably the heart,

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liver, the kidneys, the cheek

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and all those bits that don't tend to turn up on the butcher's slab.

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But what makes them really special is they add salt, pepper, red wine

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and then, most importantly, they smoke them over chestnut wood.

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And you end up with, I think,

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the best-tasting product on the island myself, too.

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L'important, c'est de faire un produit...

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'He says that, for him, the importance of making figatelli

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'is feeding a passion.

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'But it's also about improving the product all the time

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'and making something that wins prizes on the island.

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'Here, charcuterie is as important as local politics.

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..de foot professionelle.

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Pascal is saying he's very happy to be making these charcuterie products

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because Corsican charcuterie is what Corsica is all about.

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But he said he started life as a professional footballer

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for Bastia, the football team in Bastia.

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But he wasn't strong enough to make the first team

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and he remembered that his aunt was a famous producer of charcuterie

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and he just copied and learned what she was doing

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and now, as it happens, he is possibly the best maker

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of charcuterie on the island.

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That evening, I went to the village of Sorio di Tenda,

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to a local festival where the figatelli

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were grilled over a wood fire.

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They've been cooked like this for centuries.

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But they didn't have pride of place. That went to this - pulenda.

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Chestnut flour heated up in water and stirred and stirred

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until it takes on the consistency of, well, fudge, I suppose.

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I have just been watching him, it is quite hard work.

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He has to do this for about half an hour.

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Not only, as you can see, is he stirring it, he is twizzling the...

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is it pollenday?

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-Pollendayo.

-Pollendayo, that is the actual baton that he is using.

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I suppose it is like poor people's food -

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like the very similar-sounding polenta,

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it is a poor people's food to the Italians.

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But it is now more of a social thing.

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'When it is stirred enough,

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'it is celebrated rather like the piping in of the haggis.'

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CHEERING

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But to me, it is something...

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I wasn't in a tremendous rush to try it.

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I was fascinated to see that once it had cooled down,

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it was cut by a piece of string tied to this man's finger.

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Corsica moves in mysterious ways, I feel.

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THEY SING

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Mmm, interesting.

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I don't know whether I like it on its own. It tastes very chestnutty.

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But with a single sausage, it goes together very well, the smoky taste

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and the chestnut taste. It just reminds you of Corsican forests.

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SINGING CONTINUES

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'Well, I won't be cooking that back home in Padstow.

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'But I do feel very strongly about this, my interpretation of Corsica.'

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Of all the islands in the Mediterranean, Corsica

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is about forests and mountains.

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In the winter, it gets really cold,

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so this really reflects it, this dish.

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We have game in the form of wild boar.

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We have wild mushrooms, we have figatelli, of course.

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You can't get it in the UK for some reason,

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so I have had to use chorizo instead.

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The other thing about this dish is chestnuts, I will finish it off

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with a load of chestnuts just thrown in at the last minute.

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I suppose they would be

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the food symbol of the whole island of Corsica.

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I came up with the idea at that village, really,

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when they were celebrating all those particular foods of the area,

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and for me as a cook, I think that's really quite important,

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to sort of use the local ingredients, come up with a dish,

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and it sort of sets a picture of the dish, and the country, in my mind.

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Having marinated it in red wine for 24 hours, I drain it off,

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and then fry the wild boar to brown the meat.

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I'm just putting the pork in two batches, otherwise it'll boil

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in its own juice, rather than caramelise.

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Now, if I was still in Bastia, I would be putting in figatelli,

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but because I couldn't find it anywhere, I'm using chorizo.

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Corsicans watching this will be most indignant, I'm sure.

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Now for a spoonful of tomato puree, and flour to thicken the stew.

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That will help absorb some of the fat.

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This is the new-look me.

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No measured amounts of flour or anything, just bung it all in.

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Next, vermouth - it has a really herby flavour -

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and the residue of the red wine marinade.

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It's so important to really, really sear meat

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when you're making a stew.

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I mean, the Corsicans know that, they stew everything.

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I was reading somebody rather jokingly said, you know,

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they'd stew their grandmother, if you gave them half a chance.

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That was the sort of jokey implication of it.

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But it's really lovely and velvety now,

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and I know it's going to end up tasting - and the colour is so good

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when you really caramelise the meat.

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I put in some dried porcini mushrooms for a woodland flavour,

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and some home-made beef stock.

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I season this well.

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It's a rich dish. Comforting, autumnal food, I say,

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perfect for when the wind is whistling through the Mackie

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in the back end of October.

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I cover now, and gently simmer for an hour to an hour-and-a-half.

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Then add some fresh ordinary mushrooms and chanterelles,

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and then put in the essence of Corsica - chestnuts.

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These come from a tin, and I am very pleased they did too,

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because it would take longer to peel the blooming things

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than cook this entire dish!

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Add chopped parsley, cook for a further ten minutes, and serve,

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with a good chunky pasta like penne.

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After all, Corsica has many strong links with Italy.

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Bon appetit.

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How delicious did that stew look?

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Now wild boar is delicious, much easier to get hold of this day,

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as is chestnut flour, and Rick came across that in Corsica.

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You can use it in quite a few recipes.

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I'm going to show you and Ruby a simple recipe. Chocolate brownie.

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A double chocolate fudge brownie,

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with banana ice cream and toffee sauce.

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Now there's food.

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There, that's what it is.

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So we are going to do - I'll explain what we have here.

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We've got butter, eggs, some of this fudge.

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We've got baking powder, chestnut flour,

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and a little bit of the cocoa powder.

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So first thing I'm going to do is throw our sugar in there,

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with our eggs, and start whisking this up.

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And then in the pan there,

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I've got some dark chocolate, of course, and some full-fat butter.

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Butter! Thank God! THEY CHEER

0:21:460:21:48

This is only half of it for this recipe! There you go.

0:21:480:21:51

So give that a quick mix. There you go. Straight on there.

0:21:510:21:53

And we'll whisk this up. So where have you been?

0:21:530:21:55

You...

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Because we saw you on your TV programmes and bits and pieces.

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Where did you go for five years?

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Well, funnily enough, I went back to school.

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I go to Oxford now to study brains, and now you're cooking them!

0:22:060:22:10

You ARE seriously studying at Oxford, aren't you?

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Uh-huh. But then...

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Well, I wanted to write a comedy show

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that was really kind of dark too,

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so was like a rollercoaster ride.

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So I finally came up with a show called Losing It,

0:22:200:22:23

which is at the Menier CHOCOLATE Factory...

0:22:230:22:26

Chocolate factory, yeah!

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..until the 19th. And it is very...

0:22:270:22:30

It's about how the fact that we do not have

0:22:300:22:32

an instruction manual, as human beings.

0:22:320:22:34

You know, we don't know how to live our lives.

0:22:340:22:36

I mean, I say, even my domestic appliances have one, you know.

0:22:360:22:40

My washing machine says, "Put in white powder."

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If I did that, I'd end up in rehab!

0:22:430:22:45

So, you know, I'm an adult, and yet I dress like I'm 14.

0:22:450:22:48

I borrowed my daughter's thong. I can't find it.

0:22:480:22:50

You know, all the stuff that we never discuss.

0:22:500:22:52

We never compare notes. We're just winging it here.

0:22:520:22:55

And then, at the end of the show, it goes into, you know,

0:22:550:22:58

one in four people have a mental illness.

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I AM that one in four.

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And some of us...

0:23:020:23:03

it's on a spectrum, really just dive off the deep end.

0:23:030:23:06

So it gets dark, it gets light, it's funny.

0:23:060:23:09

We've been touring it for two years in mental institutions.

0:23:090:23:12

And if you can make THEM laugh, and you can make anybody laugh!

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But it's incredibly popular,

0:23:160:23:18

because you've sold out as soon as you opened.

0:23:180:23:20

-You've increased it, what, another five weeks?

-It's on till, yeah...

0:23:200:23:24

And there's another woman, Judith Owen, who's a genius,

0:23:240:23:27

but we didn't like cabaret, so she sings under me, like a film score.

0:23:270:23:30

So nobody's done this before.

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So whatever we're doing hasn't been done before,

0:23:330:23:35

which is what I was trying to do.

0:23:350:23:37

It's not stand-up, it's, you know, it's a great story.

0:23:370:23:40

-Sounds fantastic! Sounds fantastic!

-Now, you can...

0:23:400:23:43

Now I can whisk this up? There we go.

0:23:430:23:45

Right, we've got sugar and the eggs in there. Just whisk this up.

0:23:450:23:48

Very, very quickly, like that.

0:23:480:23:51

And then all we need to do now

0:23:510:23:54

is then grab our chocolate like that, throw that in.

0:23:540:23:57

So that's the chocolate and butter. There you go.

0:23:570:24:02

Throw all that lot in there,

0:24:020:24:03

and then you've you got this selection here.

0:24:030:24:06

-Cocoa powder, chestnut flour...

-I like hazelnuts.

0:24:060:24:10

-You can put hazelnuts in if you want.

-OK.

0:24:100:24:14

I'm keeping the theme going, so I've got fudge going in here.

0:24:140:24:17

But you literally just pass this through a sieve.

0:24:170:24:20

Now, with chestnut flour, you really do need to pass it through a sieve.

0:24:200:24:23

And, actually, cocoa powder,

0:24:230:24:24

because sometimes it has got little lumps in it.

0:24:240:24:27

-A little bit of that.

-You don't like lumps?

-There we go.

0:24:270:24:30

Give this a quick whisk. You can swap this over.

0:24:300:24:33

We can use our whisk for this.

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Give that a quick mix.

0:24:350:24:37

And it all starts to come together, and then we throw in fudge pieces.

0:24:370:24:42

-Right.

-Throw the whole lot in. Pop it into our tray.

0:24:420:24:45

-But when we first saw you, of course...

-You know what's so funny?

0:24:450:24:48

I'm talking about Losing It, and he's cooking.

0:24:480:24:50

You know, it's such a great combination.

0:24:500:24:52

And yet, there's a soupcon of mental illness here too.

0:24:520:24:55

-LAUGHTER

-But when we first saw you...

0:24:550:24:58

One in four, I think I see the one. But, OK.

0:24:580:25:00

When we first saw you, it was Ruby Wax Meets...

0:25:000:25:02

-Yes.

-And I loved that programme!

0:25:020:25:04

-Thank you.

-Why didn't that continue?

0:25:040:25:06

Because you can't get the access to celebrities that way you could

0:25:060:25:10

when I was a child (!) You know, now there's...

0:25:100:25:13

You know, they're surrounded by their PR, their security...

0:25:130:25:16

They just hold up their films like it's a can of soup. Whereas...

0:25:160:25:20

-You didn't allow people to promote, nothing?

-They could a little,

0:25:200:25:23

but they had to let me live with them for three days.

0:25:230:25:25

But then, you know, I made them laugh, so, you know...

0:25:250:25:28

I lived with Hugh Hefner for three days in the mansion.

0:25:280:25:31

-I mean, you did some outrageous stuff on it.

-I know.

0:25:310:25:34

-You locked Fergie out of the house.

-No, no, that was planned.

0:25:340:25:37

But nobody could tell when I was faking it and when, you know,

0:25:370:25:39

it was the real thing. So it was good. I've never had that much fun.

0:25:390:25:42

I remember the Bette Midler one.

0:25:420:25:44

Yeah, she didn't want to leave her...

0:25:440:25:46

It was a ten-minute interview,

0:25:460:25:47

she didn't want to leave her hotel room, and then,

0:25:470:25:50

because I, you know, made her laugh, which was a big challenge,

0:25:500:25:53

I got her into Harvey Nichols

0:25:530:25:55

and had her singing down the escalator.

0:25:550:25:57

LAUGHTER And eating fish in the fish department.

0:25:570:26:00

But your way of doing it, it was kind of like, dare I say,

0:26:000:26:03

Louis Theroux is now.

0:26:030:26:04

Well, no, I was funny.

0:26:040:26:06

LAUGHTER

0:26:060:26:08

But you know what I mean? It was that way that you got...

0:26:080:26:11

No, I mean, I know how to, you know, flirt a little bit and...

0:26:110:26:14

so, you know, it wasn't investigative journalism.

0:26:140:26:17

Really, it was a relationship.

0:26:170:26:19

And it was fantastic, proving a huge success.

0:26:190:26:21

Right, we've got your toffee sauce, which is butter, cream, and sugar.

0:26:210:26:27

Yeah, why are you laughing at me?

0:26:270:26:28

All the things that are fattening in your fridge,

0:26:280:26:30

just chuck it all in here.

0:26:300:26:32

None of that olive oil in this one.

0:26:320:26:33

Just put it straight on my bottom, you know.

0:26:330:26:35

Exactly, exactly. Pass the middleman.

0:26:350:26:37

And then our ice cream. You're going to like this one. Frozen bananas.

0:26:370:26:41

All you do is blend them with buttermilk, sugar, and vanilla,

0:26:410:26:44

and the whole lot goes in.

0:26:440:26:46

But before you did the Ruby Wax Meets...

0:26:460:26:48

you were a writer?

0:26:480:26:49

I wrote some of... I script-edited Ab Fab, yeah.

0:26:490:26:53

-But what brought you to the UK in the first place?

-I was...

0:26:530:26:56

I wanted to be in the Royal Shakespeare Company,

0:26:560:26:58

and so I went to drama school

0:26:580:27:01

and I did tongue exercises for three years

0:27:010:27:04

to get the English accent I have today.

0:27:040:27:06

And then I got into the Royal Shakespeare Company,

0:27:060:27:09

because Trevor Nunn really liked what I could do with my tongue.

0:27:090:27:12

-This was all with Helen Mirren and...

-No, Rickman.

0:27:120:27:14

Alan Rickman and Richard Griffiths and Zoe Wanamaker, yeah.

0:27:140:27:19

Helen's a little older, thanks.

0:27:190:27:21

So why did you turn into acting, then?

0:27:210:27:24

Because I thought I could be a great Shakespearean actor,

0:27:240:27:26

and then Alan Rickman said,

0:27:260:27:28

"I think you better go into comedy, quick."

0:27:280:27:31

And he directed all of my shows

0:27:310:27:33

and even this one, he handed me to Thea Sharrock,

0:27:330:27:36

who is a brilliant director, and so the show is born.

0:27:360:27:39

-But this is the best thing I've ever done.

-Fantastic.

0:27:390:27:42

-We look forward to it.

-Can I talk about my forums?

0:27:420:27:44

Go on. I'm just going to blend. You don't mind me blending while...

0:27:440:27:46

I'll shout. OK, every... BLENDER WHIRS

0:27:460:27:50

-Can you hear me?

-I'll stop.

0:27:500:27:51

OK, every Thursday, because the audience are so interested in,

0:27:510:27:54

you know, so many people have problems,

0:27:540:27:56

but we have no place to meet,

0:27:560:27:57

we've started a forum every Thursday where, between two and four,

0:27:570:28:01

and it's free, if you come in and you need help or you're a carer,

0:28:010:28:04

or you know somebody that's ill,

0:28:040:28:05

we have a whole staff there

0:28:050:28:07

who can direct you where to go in the country

0:28:070:28:09

to get help or where medication is, or what a good shrink is.

0:28:090:28:13

And then we have, like,

0:28:130:28:14

Camila Batmanghelidjh is speaking next week.

0:28:140:28:17

Between two and four on Thursday at the Menier Chocolate Factory.

0:28:170:28:19

It's free, and I serve cookies. There!

0:28:190:28:22

-Sounds good. Right...

-BLENDER WHIRS

0:28:220:28:25

Blend this. That's just buttermilk, bananas.

0:28:250:28:28

Takes about 20 seconds to blend.

0:28:280:28:30

Meanwhile, I'm going to take that little pot here.

0:28:300:28:32

-We've got our chocolate brownie.

-Wow!

0:28:320:28:34

Our DOUBLE chocolate brownie, which we can break up.

0:28:340:28:38

Serve it warm as well, that's a good thing.

0:28:380:28:40

This has had about sort of 45 minutes in the oven.

0:28:400:28:45

And then very quickly, you end up with ice cream in here.

0:28:450:28:49

How does it end up frozen?

0:28:490:28:51

Because you've frozen the bananas,

0:28:510:28:54

cut them into chunks, freeze them, blend it with buttermilk,

0:28:540:28:58

a bit of sugar's gone in there, vanilla,

0:28:580:29:01

and we end up very, very quickly...

0:29:010:29:03

That's us. Just get that bit.

0:29:030:29:06

It turns into ice cream.

0:29:060:29:07

And you can do this with strawberries, with apples...

0:29:070:29:10

I know you like yoghurt smoothies.

0:29:100:29:11

You can do the same thing with that. Exactly the same thing.

0:29:110:29:14

-Like, I've been listening to this, you know (!)

-There we go.

0:29:140:29:17

You've got ice cream.

0:29:170:29:19

Wow...let me taste. Let me taste.

0:29:190:29:21

LAUGHTER

0:29:210:29:23

Oh, I love you. HE LAUGHS

0:29:230:29:25

A lot.

0:29:250:29:27

-Check that out!

-Yep.

0:29:270:29:28

-There you go.

-I'm very titillated.

0:29:280:29:31

Because all these people are watching this...

0:29:310:29:33

Oh, my God!

0:29:330:29:34

..at gymnasiums...

0:29:340:29:36

See, with your English foods, with your yellow custards

0:29:360:29:38

and your toad-in-the-holes...THAT'S food!

0:29:380:29:42

-LAUGHTER

-Yeah!

0:29:420:29:43

-If you are at the gym, you need to run a lot faster.

-Yeah.

0:29:430:29:46

Alternatively, you can eat one of these.

0:29:460:29:48

But I personally wouldn't bother. You might as well eat that.

0:29:480:29:51

I'll eat this. You come to my show, Losing It.

0:29:510:29:53

I will do. Tell me what you think of that.

0:29:530:29:56

It's very good, isn't it?

0:29:560:29:58

It's better than anything I've ever experienced.

0:29:580:30:01

I'm not just saying that. LAUGHTER

0:30:010:30:03

That was one very happy Ruby there.

0:30:070:30:09

Today, we're taking a look back at some of the tastiest recipes

0:30:090:30:12

from the Saturday Kitchen archives - loads of inspiring dishes to come.

0:30:120:30:16

Up next, it's Martin Blunos

0:30:160:30:18

with the perfect dish to use up leftover potatoes.

0:30:180:30:21

Welcome to the show, Martin.

0:30:210:30:22

Good to have you on the show. So, what are we cooking?

0:30:220:30:25

Well, it's pork medallions with Jersey Royals

0:30:250:30:28

and this St George cheese.

0:30:280:30:29

So very simple - it's a leftovers dish, really. And...

0:30:290:30:32

Both of which are very topical at the moment -

0:30:320:30:34

Jersey Royals, coming to the end of the season,

0:30:340:30:36

pork, particularly,

0:30:360:30:38

because we need to support the pork producers in the UK.

0:30:380:30:42

Because I think there was

0:30:420:30:43

a tradition that it was a bit dangerous,

0:30:430:30:45

you had to cook it right through,

0:30:450:30:47

but I think with the husbandry of animals

0:30:470:30:49

and the way they're fed now,

0:30:490:30:50

it's a good piece of meat, and we ought to embrace it.

0:30:500:30:53

And the price of their food has gone up quicker than petrol, really.

0:30:530:30:57

Absolutely, absolutely.

0:30:570:30:58

If pigs drove cars, that'd be the end of it! Now...

0:30:580:31:01

Good connotation, but, yeah, all right!

0:31:010:31:04

Right, what are doing with this?

0:31:040:31:06

Well, I've got some bacon here as well,

0:31:060:31:08

some nice, cured, streaky, with the pork.

0:31:080:31:10

I'm going to get that on, and what I need you to do,

0:31:100:31:12

with the Jersey Royals, I've got some here that are already cooked.

0:31:120:31:15

I want you to chop them up, or slice them up.

0:31:150:31:18

Now, you mentioned about leftovers.

0:31:180:31:20

The thing is with Jersey Royals, that I can't understand,

0:31:200:31:23

I was in a restaurant the other day,

0:31:230:31:24

and they'd scrubbed all the skin off.

0:31:240:31:26

Yeah, which is sacrilege.

0:31:260:31:29

It's where, you know...

0:31:290:31:30

It's the time as well. The time to do that,

0:31:300:31:33

then, you should be spending time doing something else.

0:31:330:31:36

You said yourself, all the goodness is under the skin.

0:31:360:31:39

So...what I've done with the streaky here is just chop this up

0:31:390:31:42

into nice, little, manageable pieces.

0:31:420:31:44

Now you could use ready-sliced streaky

0:31:440:31:47

but I think it's nice to have little cubes that you do yourself.

0:31:470:31:50

Into a pan, little bit of oil, not too much because

0:31:500:31:52

you've got to render out some of this fat

0:31:520:31:54

that's actually in the bacon,

0:31:540:31:56

nice and greasy.

0:31:560:31:58

Back bacon is too like the fillet,

0:31:580:32:00

it's much too lean, so we want the fat flavour to come out

0:32:000:32:03

from that bacon, that's nicely cured.

0:32:030:32:06

You're slicing up the potatoes.

0:32:060:32:08

I think the best thing with leftovers is

0:32:080:32:10

you never cook just what you need, you always cook more than you want.

0:32:100:32:13

You don't get much left in my house!

0:32:130:32:15

So you just render in the fat from the...

0:32:150:32:17

Well, there's a little bit of oil there to start it off

0:32:170:32:19

but what happens is the heat will actually bring it down

0:32:190:32:22

and as the fat starts coming out, that will flavour the potatoes.

0:32:220:32:25

Now, talking of pork and using the fillet, with this one

0:32:250:32:27

you want a dry-cured bacon, not the wet-cure?

0:32:270:32:30

Yeah, dry-cure. If that was wet-cure it'd go all wet and bubbly

0:32:300:32:33

and poach rather than cook.

0:32:330:32:34

Now, here's the pork fillet. This has been trimmed -

0:32:340:32:36

there's no sinew on it, OK?

0:32:360:32:39

This is a full fillet, so they're normally about this size.

0:32:390:32:42

They do taper off. What I'm going to do, to make it more manageable,

0:32:420:32:45

is cut it quite large and on the angle.

0:32:450:32:47

Before we cut it, the thicker end would be here with the little nodule on the end?

0:32:470:32:50

But if we were looking at beef, this would be the chateaubriand,

0:32:500:32:53

the little fillet steaks, and the little mignon steaks at the end.

0:32:530:32:56

The little tail bit, yeah.

0:32:560:32:57

And it's exactly the same - it cooks very quickly,

0:32:570:32:59

there's very little fat, hence putting this fat

0:32:590:33:02

to balance it, OK?

0:33:020:33:03

So what I'm going to do is just cut the pork nice and sort of thick-ish

0:33:030:33:10

but on the dias,

0:33:100:33:11

because you want to create a really nice sort of slice.

0:33:110:33:14

The little medallions are much too small - they dry out too much.

0:33:140:33:18

And then with the back of the hand, just really

0:33:180:33:20

bang them out a little bit, and all you're doing

0:33:200:33:23

is just flattening them slightly to make them even,

0:33:230:33:26

and also you're going to get, just to loosen the fibres up.

0:33:260:33:30

You mentioned about the cooking of it,

0:33:300:33:33

the thing about pork fillet is it's often quite dry

0:33:330:33:36

because it's a lean piece of meat, you don't

0:33:360:33:38

really want to overcook it.

0:33:380:33:40

Not at all.

0:33:400:33:42

Again, you can have pork slightly underdone,

0:33:420:33:45

just slightly. A little bit pink. Not too much, because then it's raw.

0:33:450:33:48

That's the difference, where people get a bit confused,

0:33:480:33:52

if it's oozing blood then you can get away with it.

0:33:520:33:54

Patrick, do you have much pork in your Caribbean food, or...?

0:33:540:33:57

Well, at the moment,

0:33:570:33:59

we've got a belly pork, jerk belly pork, on the menu.

0:33:590:34:02

Tend to use it, we confit that,

0:34:020:34:04

and the fat and the jerk works really well,

0:34:040:34:05

the spice and the fat work well together.

0:34:050:34:07

That combination of, the great thing about belly pork is the amount

0:34:070:34:10

of sort of fat to meat, isn't it?

0:34:100:34:11

You've got to really cook it properly.

0:34:110:34:13

I mean, it's key to have as much fat as possible with your pork.

0:34:130:34:16

It makes the dish completely lush.

0:34:160:34:17

There you go. What else have we got?

0:34:170:34:19

OK, so, the potatoes are on,

0:34:190:34:20

you can see the bacon starting to colour up,

0:34:200:34:22

and the spuds just getting a little bit of colour.

0:34:220:34:25

Onto a hot griddle, all I do is brush the pork

0:34:250:34:27

with a little bit of oil,

0:34:270:34:28

little bit of season, straight off the hot griddle

0:34:280:34:30

and you don't need to shake them round or turn them.

0:34:300:34:33

You want a very harsh cooking period because you want to seal

0:34:330:34:36

all those juices in. Otherwise it will go dry.

0:34:360:34:38

You're shredding up the spring onions there.

0:34:380:34:40

On the "dias", apparently?

0:34:400:34:41

On the dias, that's it. It's got to be, it creates a bit more shape.

0:34:410:34:45

You've got the whole thing about visual image.

0:34:450:34:47

It's the way you eat, visually. You're looking at me like...

0:34:470:34:50

-It's a chopped spring onion!

-All right.

0:34:500:34:52

He's chopped up the spring onions!

0:34:520:34:55

He's chopped them on the dias, now,

0:34:550:34:57

what it is, as well, these are in season now.

0:34:570:34:59

You can get them all year round, but this is the best time of the year.

0:34:590:35:02

-They are growing really well in my garden at the moment.

-Oh, right.

0:35:020:35:04

You're chopping up the gherkin,

0:35:040:35:06

we're using the big gherkins here, the

0:35:060:35:08

dill pickles, not the little, sweet, sharp, acidic, French cornichon.

0:35:080:35:12

This is a full-on gherkin. This is a man's gherkin, that, isn't it?

0:35:120:35:16

Well... Don't tell my missus!

0:35:170:35:20

So what are we doing now?

0:35:200:35:21

This is the St George cheese. This is amazing stuff.

0:35:210:35:24

Just discovered this one.

0:35:240:35:25

It's a raw milk cheese. From the island in the Azores,

0:35:250:35:28

the island of Sao Jorge.

0:35:280:35:30

Now, what I like about it is, the cows are left out all year round,

0:35:300:35:33

so the milk is the same. You don't get any crossover with winter.

0:35:330:35:37

Winter-tasting cheese is different,

0:35:370:35:39

it's a different flavour of milk. It's available in this country.

0:35:390:35:42

There's a little company that brings it in. Real Cheese Company.

0:35:420:35:45

They're bringing it into the country.

0:35:450:35:47

Really good stuff, because it cooks well, and it eats well raw.

0:35:470:35:50

So we're just going to melt this down into the potatoes.

0:35:500:35:53

You can see that it grates up. It's amazing.

0:35:530:35:55

It's a bit like, I don't know, a very, very mild Parmesan,

0:35:550:35:58

or a slightly sort of creamier Cheddar.

0:35:580:36:03

If somebody can't find this, what would be its nearest?

0:36:030:36:08

You could use a Gruyere, or you could get away with even a Cheddar.

0:36:080:36:12

I've heard about it. It's a cheeseboard cheese,

0:36:120:36:14

but if you cook with it, it does melt nicely.

0:36:140:36:16

Yeah, it's not one that goes all very stringy.

0:36:160:36:18

It does break down. It's got quite an intense flavour, as well.

0:36:180:36:22

So I'm going to turn the pork now.

0:36:220:36:24

As you can see, you've got the little lines on there...

0:36:240:36:27

I don't know if you guys are a bit of a cheese fan,

0:36:270:36:29

-but you can dive into that. Probably never tasted that before.

-Thank you.

0:36:290:36:32

Quite unusual. So we're frying off the potatoes and the bacon.

0:36:320:36:35

Yes, they're coming out. I'm going to pop the old spring onions in now.

0:36:350:36:39

What you want them to do, because they're mild, you don't

0:36:390:36:41

want them to cook, you just want them to soften up.

0:36:410:36:44

They're going to soften up in that potato mixture.

0:36:440:36:46

We're going to put a little bit of pepper in there now,

0:36:460:36:49

but no salt, because of the bacon and because of the cheese.

0:36:490:36:51

Because the cheese has got those little salty crystals in there.

0:36:510:36:55

Now, when you were last on, your restaurant was kind of being built.

0:36:550:36:59

It's been opened now?

0:36:590:37:00

-The restaurant that's within the hotel...

-I mean the pub one.

0:37:000:37:04

The pub is up and running in Cheltenham, doing great stuff,

0:37:040:37:07

12 weeks now. Simple, honest sort of pub fare.

0:37:070:37:10

That's what it's all about. Keep it simple, keep it honest.

0:37:100:37:13

But what about the Michelin sort of stuff?

0:37:130:37:15

You're going back into the kitchen?

0:37:150:37:17

Yeah, that's coming as well with the hotel group I'm involved with.

0:37:170:37:22

We are developing a premises in Bath, which is home,

0:37:220:37:25

and that will be open, we're hoping, in about 18 months' time,

0:37:250:37:27

so that will be the fine dining, and then we've got the pub food.

0:37:270:37:31

-This is the sort of thing...

-You're doing in the pub. OK.

0:37:310:37:35

So, cheese goes in. And I'll just give that a couple of turns

0:37:350:37:37

and pull it off the heat.

0:37:370:37:39

And what will happen is, the residual heat of everything

0:37:390:37:42

will just sort of soften everything down.

0:37:420:37:45

All I get to do is chop stuff. That's all I do. Spend my life.

0:37:450:37:48

So this is the gherkins, the man-sized gherkins!

0:37:480:37:51

The man-sized gherkins! Well, it is where I'm from, anyway.

0:37:510:37:56

-It's cold, you know what I mean?

-And we've just got some dill in there.

0:37:560:38:00

Little bit of dill, and the dill just gives it that nice perfume,

0:38:000:38:03

that freshness to it. And the gherkin is the acid,

0:38:030:38:05

it's going to cut through the richness of the cheese.

0:38:050:38:08

-OK.

-Into a bowl with a little bit of olive oil.

-Yes, Chef, OK.

0:38:080:38:12

And, a bit quicker, if you can!

0:38:120:38:14

-So...

-It's all right, he's only on once every six months!

0:38:140:38:17

It'll be once a year from now on!

0:38:170:38:19

Little bit of olive oil.

0:38:190:38:21

Salt and pepper. There you go. OK.

0:38:210:38:24

So, you can see this is all coming together.

0:38:240:38:26

Going to start dishing up the cheesy potatoes.

0:38:260:38:29

-So that's kind of like a dish on its own, really.

-Yeah, this is great.

0:38:290:38:32

You can have this one for breakfast with a fried egg on top.

0:38:320:38:34

You can't go wrong. I mean, it's...

0:38:340:38:36

We will just put those few on there.

0:38:380:38:40

And you can make a fancy, little, pretty quenelle with that.

0:38:400:38:44

The pork...

0:38:440:38:46

is pretty much there.

0:38:460:38:47

Lovely. Just turn those over.

0:38:500:38:52

-I'm ready.

-OK.

0:38:520:38:54

So, we got one there, just put the other one by the side there.

0:38:540:38:58

-And then...

-Put that over the top.

0:38:580:39:00

We've got a little bit of sweet paprika which is just going to

0:39:000:39:03

give it a little bit more spice.

0:39:030:39:05

And that is just to finish it off.

0:39:050:39:06

A little flourish of paprika. So remind us what that is again.

0:39:060:39:09

That is seared medallions of pork fillet

0:39:090:39:12

with Jersey Royals and Sao Jorge cheese.

0:39:120:39:15

And man-sized gherkins!

0:39:150:39:16

And man-sized gherkins!

0:39:160:39:18

Right, everything switched off? Come on over here.

0:39:240:39:26

This is where you get to dive into this.

0:39:260:39:28

I don't know how you feel about this at ten o'clock in the morning.

0:39:280:39:31

-I'm impressed.

-Dive in. Great, this. And so simple.

0:39:310:39:34

Cooked in real-time apart from the...

0:39:340:39:36

-You could actually cook the Jerseys from scratch.

-You could do.

0:39:360:39:40

-Tell us what you think of that.

-I'm loving it already.

0:39:400:39:42

The cheese is quite interesting. Where do people by that from?

0:39:420:39:45

-Online or something?

-I think you'd get it online.

0:39:450:39:47

Real Cheese Company, I know that they do

0:39:470:39:49

Partridges Market in London, so pop along there.

0:39:490:39:52

That's a top-class breakfast.

0:39:530:39:55

There you go, there you go!

0:39:550:39:56

Dive in, everybody, dive in.

0:39:560:39:58

Couldn't you use...? You used pork, of course,

0:39:580:40:00

you could use chicken or something like that.

0:40:000:40:02

Like I say, you could top it with an egg,

0:40:020:40:04

you could put chicken, veal, anything, really.

0:40:040:40:07

I mean, pheasant, game.

0:40:070:40:09

Because the cheese, I think, has got enough oomph to carry that.

0:40:090:40:12

-So it would be good.

-Interesting combination as well.

0:40:120:40:14

And get the Jersey Royals potatoes while you can because there's only a couple of weeks left.

0:40:140:40:18

That cheese is fantastic. It's nice as a cheeseboard cheese, but cooked...

0:40:180:40:21

It takes on a whole different thing. What do you think?

0:40:210:40:24

The man-sized gherkins made it. Absolutely lovely!

0:40:240:40:28

Yes, we like that one.

0:40:280:40:29

Martin Blunos there with his man-sized gherkin.

0:40:340:40:36

Who would have thought?

0:40:360:40:38

Now time to indulge in some vintage Floyd,

0:40:380:40:40

and this week he's popping out to sea for some proper pilchards.

0:40:400:40:44

They say that salmon is the king of fish, so to cook the king of fish, we ought to ask one of the queens

0:40:450:40:51

of British cookery, and I'm sure foodies will need no introduction

0:40:510:40:56

to Joyce Molyneux here, who is one of the best cooks in the land.

0:40:560:41:01

-She's operating in Dartmouth. What are you going to do with the salmon?

-I thought we'd do it two ways.

0:41:010:41:07

A classic way, served simply with Hollandaise, cooked with a little white wine and seasoning,

0:41:070:41:13

which is just a very simple, classic way of cooking it.

0:41:130:41:18

The other alternative is salmon in pastry, which is an old favourite of the Perry-Smith family of cooks,

0:41:180:41:25

and I think it's a delightful way as well.

0:41:250:41:29

Incidentally, I'll tell you how to make the sauce because we've got it ready to make life easier.

0:41:290:41:35

We'll let you know how that happens. What are you doing now?

0:41:350:41:39

A bit of salt and pepper on these, tossed lightly in butter,

0:41:390:41:42

pour a little white wine on, cover and cook,

0:41:420:41:45

-as lightly as possible.

-Fine, you go ahead with that.

0:41:450:41:49

Do you think that salmon of all fish needs to be slightly undercooked?

0:41:490:41:54

There's been a revolution in cooking, which came from France and is now firmly with us here.

0:41:540:42:00

-And fish needs to be slightly undercooked.

-Yes.

0:42:000:42:04

It is preferable to be slightly undercooked, it's just nice to eat, you get more of a taste of the fish.

0:42:040:42:10

I've got a little melted butter in a copper tray there,

0:42:100:42:14

on a solid hot stove.

0:42:140:42:18

-And that's going to cook away for...

-Just very gently start it off.

0:42:180:42:22

I shall turn them over with a fish slice, pour a little white wine over

0:42:220:42:27

then put them in a cool oven.

0:42:270:42:29

Do you find that here by the sea, you've got access to every kind of fish, do people appreciate fish?

0:42:290:42:35

Yes, they do indeed. I think they actually appreciate

0:42:350:42:39

unusual sorts of fish but we're most happy of course,

0:42:390:42:42

to serve the salmon that comes out of the Dart river here. It's lovely.

0:42:420:42:47

-You feel that every salmon you serve has just come out of the river.

-Driven past the front of the shop.

0:42:470:42:53

It's gone past us! You may not have seen it, but there it is, it has swum past us.

0:42:530:43:00

A little white wine on that.

0:43:000:43:02

-And some tinfoil if you want.

-If I may.

0:43:020:43:05

Did you see that all right? That's just a drop of white wine.

0:43:050:43:10

There's a huge myth that you've got to swamp things in white wine.

0:43:100:43:15

You're just using wine there to get the natural juices from the fish to combine with that.

0:43:150:43:21

That juice is lovely to eat with the fish. You could just finish the juices off with cream.

0:43:210:43:27

It's nice to have the natural juices

0:43:270:43:29

because you have the lovely salmon flavour with the Hollandaise sauce.

0:43:290:43:33

We'll cover that with tinfoil.

0:43:330:43:35

And we're just going to pop it in the oven here.

0:43:370:43:40

There's been a radical change towards cooking and eating

0:43:400:43:44

throughout the country in the last ten or 15 years.

0:43:440:43:47

People are more interested but I have a feeling

0:43:470:43:51

that they're over-complicating things

0:43:510:43:53

and they're not following the basic principles.

0:43:530:43:56

They're too eager about having a piece of salmon just because it's salmon, then covering it with cream,

0:43:560:44:02

-when in fact, they would be better off with a very simple but fresh herring.

-Yes, indeed.

0:44:020:44:08

There isn't anything nicer than fresh herring,

0:44:080:44:11

it's so lovely and moist. I think it's absolutely delicious.

0:44:110:44:14

Perhaps sometimes people feel that the more they add to fish,

0:44:140:44:19

or the more they do with things,

0:44:190:44:22

-the better it's going to become, and it isn't always so.

-It's like...

0:44:220:44:26

You feel they're paying... Particularly in a restaurant,

0:44:260:44:30

that they're paying a lot of money

0:44:300:44:33

so they want something that's been very well worked on, whereas,

0:44:330:44:36

what they should be paying for

0:44:360:44:38

-is the best ingredients cooked simply.

-And a great deal of love.

0:44:380:44:43

Love's the most marvellous thing. Fantastic, yes.

0:44:430:44:47

I was shocked the other day, I was at a point to point and we were all talking about Range Rovers...

0:44:470:44:55

and I was talking to a young lady, the wife of a well-known actor,

0:44:550:44:59

and she said, "The great thing was I went to cordon bleu, it was great,"

0:44:590:45:05

and I expressed my provocative views about cordon bleu cooks.

0:45:050:45:10

And I put the idea that she could have in fact learnt just as much

0:45:100:45:14

or more from her mother, and she said,

0:45:140:45:16

"Girls of my class don't have mothers who cook,

0:45:160:45:19

"we don't do such things." It's appalling.

0:45:190:45:22

It is. I'm sure it couldn't happen in France where it's, as you know, quite different.

0:45:220:45:28

In general, people are more interested in food nowadays.

0:45:280:45:33

-This is a new thing. Before the war, one didn't talk about food.

-It was like not talking about sex.

0:45:330:45:40

-Or death nowadays.

-Yes.

0:45:400:45:42

These unmentionable subjects, but now everybody enjoys food much more.

0:45:420:45:48

-And perhaps it's gone to the other extreme with so many cookery books about.

-There's too much.

0:45:480:45:54

Too many colour supplements telling how us how we ought to live without going into the nitty-gritty.

0:45:540:46:00

-Nitty-gritty as you said is the freshness, and the cooking... We are cooking aren't we?

-We are indeed!

0:46:000:46:06

How's that going on? We're going to try and get this out the oven if you don't mind staying with us a bit.

0:46:060:46:12

The thing about meeting one of these super cooks like Joyce

0:46:120:46:17

-is that...

-Not quite ready.

-Not quite? In again for a second?

-A couple of minutes.

0:46:170:46:23

Can I show you what it means by "not quite"? That's a little too pink. You want it like that.

0:46:230:46:30

-When it's all like that, it'll be ready.

-But a little pink in the centre.

-A little pink in the centre.

0:46:300:46:37

There we are. Another five minutes in the oven.

0:46:370:46:40

Joyce, you've done a marvellous job of that.

0:46:400:46:43

-You've put Hollandaise over it and a little fennel to give it a hint of aniseed...

-Yes.

0:46:430:46:50

-..which is nice.

-I'm looking forward to the first salmon of the season.

0:46:500:46:54

-Splendid.

-You eat because I've got to explain to my fans -

0:46:540:46:58

hello, gastronauts, haven't seen you for a while.

0:46:580:47:02

The Hollandaise sauce is terribly simple, I do hope Joyce won't contradict me.

0:47:020:47:08

As long as you've got a food-processor, break in the yolks of three eggs into it,

0:47:080:47:14

whisk it up till they're frothy and then pour in a half pound pack of melted unsalted butter,

0:47:140:47:21

very slowly whizzing the food-processor the whole time.

0:47:210:47:25

It'll turn into a nice thick yellow custard which you can pour over salmon, hard-boiled eggs, asparagus,

0:47:250:47:32

new-boiled potatoes, a leg of lamb - anything you like.

0:47:320:47:35

It's a versatile sauce, very simple and it's brilliant.

0:47:350:47:40

See you in a minute.

0:47:400:47:42

-Mm.

-Mm!

0:47:420:47:44

I think you know me well enough by now after the last five weeks,

0:47:450:47:49

for me to let you into a little secret.

0:47:490:47:52

I'll quote the Bard who said, "A surfeit of the sweetest things,

0:47:520:47:55

"to the stomach a certain loathing brings."

0:47:550:47:59

Ah, dear gastronauts, what a splendid sight.

0:47:590:48:02

Here we are on this pilchard boat, drifting red sails in the sunset,

0:48:020:48:05

this proud remnant of an industry

0:48:050:48:07

which once supported thousands ashore and afloat

0:48:070:48:10

has become, like so many fine traditions, the victims of apathy.

0:48:100:48:14

Or do I mean progress?

0:48:140:48:16

As a boy, the first fish I caught and cooked was a wild trout,

0:48:160:48:19

on a Somerset May morning,

0:48:190:48:21

so I can't get excited about trout farms.

0:48:210:48:24

Tanks of sullen fish waiting for the supermarket's order

0:48:240:48:27

make me sad, because these days, the apocryphal trout

0:48:270:48:30

is the gastronomic crutch of the lazy or unscrupulous restaurateur.

0:48:300:48:34

But here on the river Mole, Caroline Boa's recipe for trout

0:48:340:48:37

is intriguing, if you read the right newspaper.

0:48:370:48:41

-Well, it has to be a tabloid.

-It has to be a tabloid?

-Definitely.

0:48:410:48:44

Can't you rip up The Times? I'm sure it would taste a bit better.

0:48:440:48:47

Well, I suppose if you've got the time, you could rip up The Times.

0:48:470:48:50

Well, we haven't got the time for The Times.

0:48:500:48:52

Clive, I know you've been out of the business for a long time.

0:48:520:48:54

Come down and have a look at the trout

0:48:540:48:56

so we can show the good people at home the essential ingredients.

0:48:560:48:59

Which are fresh trout from Caroline's farm

0:48:590:49:02

right outside the window here,

0:49:020:49:04

sea salt, for seasoning it in a moment,

0:49:040:49:07

a little lemon juice as well,

0:49:070:49:09

which we're going to put on, and surprise, surprise,

0:49:090:49:13

a prime ingredient - one of Mr Murdoch's poorer efforts.

0:49:130:49:17

-OK. You're the expert here.

-All right.

0:49:170:49:20

You show me what we're going to do.

0:49:200:49:21

I'm putting the fish literally like that in the newspaper,

0:49:210:49:24

apart from putting some sea salt in the cavity, as we call it.

0:49:240:49:27

-Or its tummy.

-Tummy. I'm not going to do anything to it.

0:49:270:49:30

No butter, no other ingredients.

0:49:300:49:33

Now I'm going to make it up into, I hope, a neat parcel.

0:49:330:49:37

Can you make Christmas trees and things like that out of newspaper?

0:49:370:49:40

You could try!

0:49:400:49:42

I bet you were good at school, at sort of handicrafts and things.

0:49:420:49:45

-Girl Guides.

-Girl Guides!

0:49:450:49:46

-I've always wanted to cook with a Girl Guide.

-Now...

0:49:460:49:50

Come on, this is the important bit, you halfwit.

0:49:500:49:53

This is the essential preparation process.

0:49:530:49:57

And now you soak it until it's really wet.

0:49:570:50:00

I mean, not dripping, but really wet.

0:50:000:50:03

I'll give it a shake in a minute to get off the drips.

0:50:030:50:06

-OK.

-Now, that one is ready.

-Ready for what?

0:50:080:50:11

-To go in the oven.

-Oh, we cook it...

0:50:110:50:12

-We don't have to eat it out of the raw newspaper?

-You'll see.

0:50:120:50:15

Fine, fine. Good.

0:50:150:50:17

OK. Have a drink. Don't worry about the cameras, much more fun. Cheers.

0:50:170:50:20

-Great.

-Right.

-A mouthful of salt helps it go down.

0:50:220:50:25

Not bad wine, actually.

0:50:250:50:27

You see? You nearly forgot the salt, didn't you?

0:50:270:50:29

-You got overexcited!

-THEY LAUGH

0:50:290:50:31

It's the wine that does it.

0:50:310:50:33

-And then, repeat procedure.

-Repeat procedure with the tap.

0:50:360:50:39

Under the tap.

0:50:390:50:41

-We'll do this one.

-OK.

0:50:410:50:44

Give it a shake. Now they're going into the oven just like that.

0:50:440:50:47

Excellent. Of course, you know,

0:50:470:50:48

any sort of fish can be cooked in this way, or not?

0:50:480:50:51

It's a very good way for any whole fish that's got a skin on it,

0:50:510:50:54

and you'll see why in a minute, but it's a terrific way

0:50:540:50:57

for some sea fish which tend to make the house rather smelly.

0:50:570:51:00

Because there is no smell. The smell stays inside the newspaper.

0:51:000:51:03

Oh, it's really good.

0:51:030:51:04

So there's a smashing tip for those of you that like to eat fish

0:51:040:51:07

but can't stand the smell, gutless lot that you are.

0:51:070:51:09

Well, it does actually make the house stink

0:51:090:51:12

-when you've been cooking herring.

-Don't you mind having...?

0:51:120:51:14

I mean, surely the good thing about food are the smells that go with it.

0:51:140:51:18

I mean, the good thing about farming

0:51:180:51:20

is the smell of the dung and all that. Isn't that part of life?

0:51:200:51:23

I don't know, when you wake up in the morning

0:51:230:51:25

and you come downstairs and the kitchen stinks of sort of...

0:51:250:51:27

Yeah, but you're... I mean, you're here on your lovely farm.

0:51:270:51:30

You've got goats and geese and chickens and sheep

0:51:300:51:33

and things like that.

0:51:330:51:34

I'd rather have dung than stale herring smell.

0:51:340:51:37

You're not a disillusioned romantic, are you? Anyway...

0:51:370:51:40

-You could say that.

-Into the oven with those.

-OK.

0:51:400:51:42

Allow me, ma'am. I am a gentleman, after all.

0:51:420:51:46

-And I like to open an oven for a lady.

-OK.

0:51:460:51:49

So, what's happening to them now?

0:51:490:51:50

They're going into a hot oven, and they will take about 20 minutes,

0:51:500:51:56

but the thing is that you know they're cooked

0:51:560:51:59

-when the newspaper is dry, so it's foolproof.

-Absolutely perfect.

0:51:590:52:02

-And odourless.

-And odourless.

-Fine.

0:52:020:52:04

Now, stay down there for a second and bring the other ones out,

0:52:040:52:07

because, you see, we're running a bit short on time,

0:52:070:52:09

and the pubs will open in a minute,

0:52:090:52:11

and we don't want to miss the first drink of the evening.

0:52:110:52:13

We've done one of those things

0:52:130:52:15

that this programme has vowed never to do.

0:52:150:52:17

Just shows you can't believe everything you hear.

0:52:170:52:19

We have, I'm afraid, got some already ready,

0:52:190:52:21

just happened to have in the oven.

0:52:210:52:23

Bring them on, my darling, and we'll go and eat. There we are.

0:52:230:52:26

Two prepared beautiful newspaper trout, courtesy of Caroline.

0:52:260:52:30

We're going to eat them now.

0:52:300:52:32

-Now, I'm bound to make a pig's ear of this. Am I doing it right?

-Yes.

0:52:360:52:41

The outside bits, you can be fairly brutal. It's just the last layer.

0:52:410:52:45

I couldn't be brutal to a piece of food to save my life!

0:52:450:52:48

Right, I see what you mean.

0:52:490:52:50

The last layer, you've got to be careful how you...

0:52:500:52:52

Because the object now is to use the paper to peel the skin away.

0:52:520:52:57

That's right. It should take the skin with it.

0:52:570:52:59

It won't have newsprint all over the fish?

0:52:590:53:02

It won't have anything,

0:53:020:53:03

because all the skin and everything comes away with the newspaper.

0:53:030:53:07

Are you sure? You've done yours beautifully. Look, Clive.

0:53:070:53:10

Hers is perfect. Just in case I make a pig's ear of this,

0:53:100:53:13

look at that one to see how it really works.

0:53:130:53:16

But, on the other hand...

0:53:160:53:17

-Is it coming?

-With a masterly stroke of genius...

-There you go!

0:53:170:53:23

-Now...

-Turn it over with a swift...

0:53:230:53:25

-With a very swift plop like that.

-Yes.

0:53:250:53:28

That's it.

0:53:280:53:29

I haven't done it too well. Actually, I've done quite well, haven't I?

0:53:310:53:34

Those of you who don't like the head, by the way, there's a unique moment

0:53:340:53:37

to hack the head off, those of you who are a bit squeamish.

0:53:370:53:40

Let me take away all the gubbins.

0:53:400:53:42

-Lovely! Thanks very much.

-There you are.

-Great.

0:53:420:53:44

-Have some lemon.

-Good. Thank you. And some salt, probably.

0:53:440:53:47

Well, I'm going to taste it absolutely au naturel first of all,

0:53:470:53:49

because I think the idea of this is,

0:53:490:53:51

since it's been cooked with all the flavours kept in,

0:53:510:53:53

the true flavour of your wonderful fish should come out, shouldn't it?

0:53:530:53:56

-That's right.

-But, one thing I must say,

0:53:560:53:58

without wishing to cause any offence or anything at all like that,

0:53:580:54:01

I mean, trout farms seem to be springing up in such sort of

0:54:010:54:04

profligation these days, you're almost getting to the point

0:54:040:54:07

where it says, you know, "last trout farm before the motorway."

0:54:070:54:10

You know? But you reckon yours are the best trout,

0:54:100:54:13

and this is going to be the proof of the pudding, isn't it?

0:54:130:54:15

-Why are yours so good?

-Well, I think a lot of it depends on the water.

0:54:150:54:21

I mean, we use a river that comes straight down from Exmoor,

0:54:210:54:27

and therefore, the river runs over granite and is very clean.

0:54:270:54:30

And it has a lot of mineral salts in it and all that sort of thing.

0:54:310:54:36

Also, the fish get an enormous turnover of water.

0:54:360:54:39

They're not sitting in sort of a muddy pond like that,

0:54:390:54:43

they're just actually having a turnover.

0:54:430:54:47

-Have some salad. Have some salad.

-No, the fish is just too good.

0:54:470:54:51

Actually, look me in the eye, Clive, please.

0:54:510:54:53

I'd like to make a sincere gesture. This fish is absolutely brilliant.

0:54:530:54:58

It really is. I recommend it as a way of cooking it.

0:54:580:55:00

It's quite the nicest trout I've ever had. Absolutely splendid.

0:55:000:55:04

-But do you enjoy cooking, in fact?

-This is an awful admission.

0:55:040:55:07

-I hate cooking!

-You hate cooking?!

0:55:070:55:08

I'm always having to cook, and I really don't like cooking at all.

0:55:080:55:11

That's why, in many ways, I find this such a super recipe.

0:55:110:55:14

It's so easy to do.

0:55:140:55:16

And when I've got people for lunch or something,

0:55:160:55:18

I do it like this, and then do it the night before,

0:55:180:55:22

and then in the morning, I just cut it open, and I've got cold...

0:55:220:55:26

Usually, I use a big one, and I've got it cold and pink

0:55:260:55:29

and lovely for a buffet, and put cucumber and stuff on it.

0:55:290:55:32

-Makes it look pretty like scales.

-Exactly.

0:55:320:55:34

And that's the easiest thing you can possibly do for a lunch party.

0:55:340:55:37

All you've got to do is make some salad.

0:55:370:55:39

And you don't have to fiddle about on the day, which is so much nicer.

0:55:390:55:43

It's a very good source of protein,

0:55:430:55:45

which is now actually at a price

0:55:450:55:47

as low as any other source of protein.

0:55:470:55:51

-I mean, it's less expensive than most meat.

-Sure.

0:55:510:55:54

It's no longer the luxury dish it always was, are you saying?

0:55:540:55:57

No, that's right. That's right.

0:55:570:55:58

I mean, it would be nice to keep the luxury image

0:55:580:56:00

and for people to think that they should have it for parties

0:56:000:56:03

and stuff, but in actuality, it's really less expensive

0:56:030:56:06

than almost any of the white fish or of meat or anything like that.

0:56:060:56:13

-What could be done to help sell more?

-Education, I suppose.

0:56:130:56:17

People have got to be taught that it is not only

0:56:170:56:20

a good source of protein, but also a delicious meal,

0:56:200:56:24

and an inexpensive one.

0:56:240:56:26

Time and time and time again,

0:56:260:56:28

everybody we speak to on these programmes,

0:56:280:56:30

the word "education" and then a lack of it comes up.

0:56:300:56:33

What is actually wrong with the Brits?

0:56:330:56:35

Why don't they eat fish properly?

0:56:350:56:36

Maybe it's just that we all moan a lot!

0:56:360:56:38

I don't know. I don't know.

0:56:400:56:42

I think people are very hidebound in the type of food that they eat.

0:56:420:56:46

-I think more than they ought to be.

-So they're a boring old lot, really?

0:56:460:56:50

-You said it!

-Well, you think so, or not?

0:56:510:56:55

No, I don't think so.

0:56:550:56:56

I think that when people discover new foods

0:56:560:56:59

and how easy it is to eat them and to cook them and enjoy them,

0:56:590:57:03

then I think that they do change.

0:57:030:57:05

But I think that they have got to do a bit more changing.

0:57:050:57:09

Just brilliant, and there'll be more from Keith next week.

0:57:130:57:16

Now, as ever on Best Bites, we're looking back at some of

0:57:160:57:18

our favourite recipes from the Saturday Kitchen archives.

0:57:180:57:21

Still to come on today's show, Angela Hartnett and Lawrence Keogh

0:57:210:57:24

go head-to-head in the Omelette Challenge.

0:57:240:57:26

Atul Kochhar serves up a spicy pie.

0:57:260:57:29

He makes a tasty filling of chicken, carrots, onions and spices

0:57:290:57:32

cooked in coconut milk and topped with a puff pastry lid,

0:57:320:57:35

sprinkled with coriander, cumin and black sesame seeds.

0:57:350:57:38

And Katy Brand faces her food heaven or food hell.

0:57:380:57:41

Did she get her food heaven, coriander fish curry

0:57:410:57:43

with coriander flatbread,

0:57:430:57:45

or her food hell, grilled pork chop with crisp black pudding,

0:57:450:57:48

cider sauce and greens? You'll have to find out at the end of the show.

0:57:480:57:52

Right, up next is Jason Atherton,

0:57:520:57:53

who's here with a dish of duck, chocolate and cherries -

0:57:530:57:56

kind of like a Black Forest Duck, then.

0:57:560:57:59

What are we cooking, then?

0:57:590:58:00

We're cooking Barbary duck, good British duck,

0:58:000:58:03

and were going to confit the legs, roast the breast,

0:58:030:58:05

we're going to make a little sauce with some port, some chicken stock,

0:58:050:58:08

-some thyme, garlic, little bit of watercress and cherries...

-Cherries, yeah.

0:58:080:58:12

..and then a sort of chocolate vinegar ganache which is going to help cut the richness of the fat.

0:58:120:58:16

-It wouldn't be you without a chocolate vinegar ganache.

-No.

0:58:160:58:18

But anyway, OK. But this recipe, we're going to use the entire duck.

0:58:180:58:21

-You want me to reduce this vinegar down?

-Please. If you can get on with the chocolate ganache,

0:58:210:58:25

and I'm just going to sort of butcher my duck quickly.

0:58:250:58:28

I'm going to take the legs off, cos we're going to confit these.

0:58:280:58:30

Then I want to take the breast off, but I'm going to do the...

0:58:300:58:33

Rather than like you would do on a traditional duck -

0:58:330:58:36

you'd roast it on the breast and render the fat down - we're going to do it completely different.

0:58:360:58:40

-We're going to take the fat off.

-Confit meaning slow-cooking, I suppose, in duck fat.

-Yeah.

0:58:400:58:44

When people are doing duck at home, if they want to do a whole roast duck,

0:58:440:58:47

cos there's loads of different ideas of how to get a really good roast.

0:58:470:58:50

What's yours? Do you cook it on the skin side?

0:58:500:58:52

Yeah, you've got to cook it skin side, and give it a good rubbing

0:58:520:58:55

in a little bit of lard or something like that, and season it up with a little bit of salt

0:58:550:58:58

-so it helps crisp the skin.

-So that's basically cooked upside down.

0:58:580:59:01

-And cook it slowly?

-Yeah, nice and slow, because you don't want to...

0:59:010:59:04

And don't be scared to overcook duck, cos duck's one of those meats

0:59:040:59:07

you can either eat it rare or you can eat it cooked all the way through. It's delicious.

0:59:070:59:11

So all we've done there, James, is take the skin off, as you can see.

0:59:110:59:14

So we've got a nice breast, and then we're going to quickly pop these into a pan.

0:59:140:59:18

Chocolate's going on in our little bain-marie there.

0:59:180:59:20

So what we've got in here is duck fat.

0:59:200:59:22

-Yeah.

-And we're just going to lower it down like that.

0:59:220:59:26

Pop in a little bit of thyme.

0:59:260:59:29

It's become popular in the UK over the past few years,

0:59:290:59:31

but the French have been cooking stuff like this for years,

0:59:310:59:34

-haven't they?

-Well, in the olden days, especially in places...

0:59:340:59:37

It was a way of, you know, using the whole duck -

0:59:370:59:39

eating the breasts fresh, and then submerging it in duck fat

0:59:390:59:42

and then when they used to have leaner months,

0:59:420:59:47

they used to then bring it out, take it out of the fat,

0:59:470:59:50

-and then they would eat it, yeah.

-Yeah, exactly.

0:59:500:59:52

-So you want me to do the cherries for this?

-Please, yeah.

0:59:520:59:54

So we've got the duck legs in there. Now you're going to do the skin,

0:59:540:59:57

-and the skin's gone in there as well?

-Skin's gone in there. That's going to cook with the bird.

0:59:571:00:01

So quickly season that. Can I just take a bit of butter?

1:00:011:00:04

We're going to pop that in there with a little bit of oil.

1:00:041:00:07

And then...

1:00:071:00:09

This will actually cook in real time, this duck breast, as well?

1:00:091:00:12

-Well, I hope so.

-Yeah.

1:00:121:00:14

The one that you're using - what type of duck is this?

1:00:141:00:16

-This is a Barbary duck.

-Because you did a little tasting on duck, didn't you, back in the restaurant, Nathan?

1:00:161:00:21

We were trying to come up with the best breast we could,

1:00:211:00:24

and we basically came up with... We tried eight different ones,

1:00:241:00:27

and the one that we came up with was the Cornish duck.

1:00:271:00:30

Well, it would be, wouldn't it?

1:00:301:00:31

-LAUGHTER

-Funnily enough.

1:00:311:00:33

And also Creedy Carver, which is from Devon.

1:00:331:00:35

So two really good West Country ducks, really.

1:00:351:00:38

But this is opposed to the French one, really,

1:00:401:00:42

cos you find, what, the Magret ducks?

1:00:421:00:44

Yeah, they're a great duck, but we're in Britain at the end of the day,

1:00:441:00:47

and let's champion British produce. That's what it all about, you know?

1:00:471:00:50

We give the French far too much credit.

1:00:501:00:52

Yeah, right. So we're reducing the red wine vinegar here.

1:00:521:00:55

This is 400ml, wants reducing down to about 100mls.

1:00:551:00:58

That's right. That's going all the way down. And then we'll quickly make the sauce.

1:00:581:01:01

The reason why we reduce it down is cos otherwise it'd be too strong

1:01:011:01:05

when you add it to the chocolate, and then the chocolate won't set.

1:01:051:01:08

So in goes our shallots, into the pan.

1:01:101:01:12

And then what I do, and it's a good little trick for people at home,

1:01:121:01:16

is when you're frying those, just add a little bit of sugar to it.

1:01:161:01:20

Helps sweeten the sauce up, at the same time,

1:01:201:01:22

-it helps thicken the sauce, you know?

-Yeah.

1:01:221:01:24

Little bit, like, what, a teaspoon of it?

1:01:241:01:26

-Yeah, yeah, couple of teaspoons.

-Yeah.

1:01:261:01:29

Bit of chopped thyme.

1:01:291:01:30

That's in there like that.

1:01:301:01:32

Whenever I speak to you,

1:01:321:01:34

-you're always gallivanting all over the place.

-Yeah.

1:01:341:01:36

Cape Town you've just been to?

1:01:361:01:38

Yeah, we've been in Cape Town for five weeks,

1:01:381:01:40

setting up the new restaurant, and that's gone really well.

1:01:401:01:43

It's at the One&Only resort down in Cape Town.

1:01:431:01:46

Isn't it quite difficult setting up a restaurant - I mean,

1:01:461:01:49

-I know abroad, but that far away?

-It's a lot of hard work, yeah.

1:01:491:01:53

It all sounds very glamorous, but it's a lot of hard work.

1:01:531:01:55

But at the same time a lot of fun.

1:01:551:01:57

And we get work with fantastic produce and new staff,

1:01:571:02:00

and we got to cook for Nelson Mandela, so that was a bit of fun.

1:02:001:02:03

Right, so the butter is going to go into our chocolate.

1:02:051:02:09

-That goes in there.

-But this really is like a chocolate ganache.

1:02:091:02:11

It's a savoury chocolate ganache.

1:02:111:02:13

This is how you make chocolate truffles,

1:02:131:02:15

or you can use double cream instead of butter.

1:02:151:02:17

Do you have to use a certain amount of cocoa in the chocolate?

1:02:171:02:21

70% and above, I always use, because it's more bitter,

1:02:211:02:24

so you end up with sort of, like, a better product, you know?

1:02:241:02:27

If you use the stuff that's got a lot more fat in it,

1:02:271:02:30

then it's a little bit more gooey texture,

1:02:301:02:32

where this is really nice and bitter, and you get that real chocolate flavour.

1:02:321:02:36

Right. You've got our ganache there.

1:02:361:02:39

-Now the cherries, you want them lightly chopped.

-Please, yeah.

-OK. They go through.

1:02:391:02:43

And then you can leave that confit in the oven about two hours,

1:02:431:02:46

the confit will probably take with the skin.

1:02:461:02:48

But the secret is cooking it very slowly for a long time?

1:02:481:02:52

Yeah, exactly.

1:02:521:02:53

So we've got our breast. Our sauce is nice and reduced.

1:02:531:02:57

That's probably ready, the sauce. Just wait for the cherries.

1:02:571:03:00

If we can have those to plate.

1:03:001:03:02

-How many do you want?

-That's enough. In we go, the cherries.

1:03:041:03:08

It's a great combination, cherries and duck.

1:03:081:03:10

It's one of those classics.

1:03:101:03:12

They're not in season yet but they are coming there.

1:03:121:03:14

Yeah, they're on the way.

1:03:141:03:16

-When did you decide on chocolate and vinegar for the recipe?

-Sorry?

1:03:161:03:19

-The chocolate and vinegar. When did that get added?

-If you just put...

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After about six pints of lager, I think!

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If you think about venison and chocolate,

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it's a classic combination.

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And duck's a rich sort of game, you know,

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a rich game and I just decided to try it.

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And it worked. And we sell loads of it at the restaurant.

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-It does really well.

-You've got duck right there. Lovely and tender.

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-You want this skin as well?

-Please. And I'll show you a little trick.

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What we do with that is, once the skin's cut down like that,

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you put it in between two sheets.

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You then press it with some baked bean cans or whatever.

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Press it and go back to the fridge again.

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You end up with a beautiful bit of crispy duck skin like that.

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Look at that!

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We're going to plate now. Put our leg in the middle.

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-If you want to quenelle that for me.

-Quenelle that. Right, OK.

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Since you're the pastry chef extraordinaire.

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Pastry chef extraordinaire?

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If there's chocolate and cherries, that's Black Forest Gateau to me!

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It ain't duck!

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Quickly slice our duck. A bit of salt.

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Bit of pepper. And then we're going to sort of fan that around.

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If you quenelle that on top, perfect. Stick that on our skin.

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Put that on the top there. Sauce around it.

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People looking at that duck would go "Ooh! A little bit more."

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-You can eat duck like that.

-Yeah, you can.

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But if you want to take it more at home, it's entirely up to you.

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You have it in France, that's well done, I think.

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I like my duck quite nice and rare.

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It's one of those meats you can get away with, like venison,

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like most games.

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Exactly.

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-A sprinkling of sauce.

-Some of these as well?

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-A bit of watercress, please, James.

-This is this new tiny watercress.

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Most people are used to the bigger stuff.

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It's quite bitter, the bigger stuff, and it sort of lends itself to salmon.

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When you've got a delicate dish like this,

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the little baby stuff works really well.

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And that is my duck dish, which is confit leg, roasted breast,

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chocolate and vinegar ganache with cherries.

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Look at that. Delicious.

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Looks delicious. There you go. Right. Does it taste delicious?

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There you go.

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Better be a meat-eater now. What do you think of that?

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-Have you tried chocolate, cherries and duck?

-I have not.

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-I didn't think so.

-Chocolate and duck and cherries.

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I've tried chocolate and cherries before.

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So what's the idea with the chocolate? Is it supposed to melt?

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Yeah. You mix it in with the sauce and it sort of adds that vinegar kick

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-to it and it just works really well, you know.

-OK. Well, here we go.

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-Shall I pack my bags and go home now?

-No. That's actually quite nice!

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Actually quite nice!

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I'm not surprised that you can cook a wonderful dish,

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but just the combination of the ingredients I was surprised by

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and it's not something that I would probably choose

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-but having tasted it...

-It's great.

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-You can cook very well, can't you?

-Come back. Let's go back.

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You're very good, aren't you?

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Dougray was a little hesitant there, wasn't he?

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But it looks like it was a winner in the end.

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Right, now time for the Omelette Challenge,

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and this week it's Angela Hartnett and Lawrence Keogh.

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Now, I love Angela, but my money's on Lawrence,

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who over the years has proven himself to be rather quick

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at knocking up an omelette.

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Now, Lawrence, the 17-second brigade over here.

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Oh, come on. I'm just going to stick with Lesley then.

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-There's really no point.

-Lesley, come over here.

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Can I just say, 300 omelettes a day, he should be doing it

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-in like five seconds.

-I do make a mess, don't worry.

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Didn't you see him cook his first dish on the show?

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Are you ready? Three, two, one, go.

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This is like scrambled egg!

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That handle was hot!

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Oh, no.

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Mine's like scrambled egg.

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Oh, no, that's just...

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A little bit of garnish, a flourish of cheese.

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There!

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-Don't look at me like that!

-Did she burn it?

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-Right, let's have a look on here.

-Oh, dear.

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Oh, come on. Yes.

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ALL TALK AT ONCE

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You shouldn't have sent that out, never mind sending it back.

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Right. Angela.

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-Be nice to me, James.

-Angela...

-I do make a lovely pasta.

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I've won the fire extinguisher. Thank you.

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-You did it a lot quicker.

-Oh, good.

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-20 seconds quicker.

-Wow.

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-But you're not going on the board.

-Oh, no!

-You're joking.

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-It's burning!

-That's so harsh.

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-Lawrence Keogh.

-Yes, Chef?

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-Have you been practising?

-Yeah.

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You were quicker than this.

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Oof, Lawrence.

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You were quicker than Nick Nairn.

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Maybe you get the fire extinguisher.

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You were quicker than Jun Tanaka.

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Oh-ho-ho! Oh!

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-You weren't as quick as the other two, though.

-Oh!

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You were 16.60 seconds. Pretty good.

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Amazingly, I think Lawrence seemed to be moving quite casually there.

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If he'd got a move on, who knows what his time would have been?

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Anyway, we'll never know.

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Up next, Atul Kochhar with an Anglo-Indian pie

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that originated in a Bombay sports club.

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-Great to have you on the show, boss.

-Good to be back.

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-What are you cooking?

-I'm cooking a great pie.

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It's called gymkhana chicken pie.

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It's a great Anglo-Indian delicacy which was left behind by the British.

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-I thought, "I'll revive this recipe."

-This comes from a sports club.

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It is. It used to be Wellington club originally.

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The name was changed to gym.

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The Indian name got attached to that - khana - house.

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Gym house, basically.

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-We've got the chicken.

-The way we are going about it, heat oil.

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Spices which are cassia, not cinnamon,

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cloves, black pepper, curry leaves, saute that, add chopped onions,

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add ginger and season the chicken with the flour and salt and pepper.

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-Add the spices.

-The two spices we've got...

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Turmeric and coriander only.

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-We'll use some salt and pepper as well.

-This is coconut milk?

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Instead of cream. I'll be using some silverskin onions.

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I'm going to do these veg.

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You are using thighs for this, aren't you?

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I'm using thighs because I think they have better flavour.

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The part of the animal which exercises more tend to have

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-better flavour.

-Yup.

-Apart from the beef fillet. That's the only one...

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It's kind of the same thing with pork and everything else.

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I want to keep a bit of fat as well. Just to get a nice flavour.

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If it's too fatty, you can trim it out.

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Lovely. You mentioned this spice here. This isn't cinnamon.

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You can call it white cinnamon, if you like.

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In India, people use cassia more than cinnamon.

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The bay leaf which we use in India

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is actually the same leaf from the cassia tree.

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It's not real bay leaf.

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-That is enough for us.

-It's got a different flavour.

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Cinnamon is stronger, don't you think?

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Cinnamon is stronger and harsher.

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I find this a sweetish taste and I enjoy that.

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There's people who enjoy eating chicken kormas...

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Cinnamon is the strong one. Absolutely.

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There's your flour. I'll chop your onion for you.

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-Flour, salt.

-I'll blanch the carrots and beans.

-Thank you.

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You don't see many pies in Indian cookery.

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That's why I said it's an Anglo-Indian dish.

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Cinnamon is slightly stronger than cassia.

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That is good.

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The smell of this is... In with the onions.

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It's very important when you put in the spices,

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the oil has to be hot otherwise the spices will not release their flavour.

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Where can people get this stuff from?

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You can get it in normal supermarkets these days.

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You need to saute the onions.

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It doesn't have to go down to brown in colour.

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-The chicken is slightly toasting.

-That's seasoned flour.

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Seasoned flour. The chicken goes in with the flour.

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-I'll take my...

-Thank you.

-..my veg.

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These are just the carrots and beans.

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You could use any vegetable you want.

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I need some ginger once the chicken is slightly sauteed. Coated, sealed.

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I like ginger. I could have added before but it will give...

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-It can burn quite quickly.

-Caramelised, which you don't want.

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You want a nice mild flavour of ginger.

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The spices we've got in here,

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turmeric is a great antiseptic, isn't it?

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-It's a great antiseptic, internally and externally as well.

-Is it?

1:13:001:13:04

-It works really well.

-It's good on cuts and all that kind of stuff.

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I'm using coriander powder and turmeric.

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If people want to use curry powder,

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I'm not going to get offended.

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-Just a bit of curry powder. I don't know if you've ever heard of that about turmeric.

-I didn't know that.

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If you get a cut on your arm,

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whack it on your arm. It makes your arm turn yellow.

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Other than that, it'll be all right.

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When you say, Indians don't do pie, would you put this on at Benares?

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I do it from time to time and this one is definitely going on the menu.

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Going on the menu.

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You've sealed off the chicken. What's next?

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You put the vegetables in now. Can I have some silver skin onions?

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-Samosas are a little bit pie-like.

-Sorry?

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Samosas are a little bit pie-like.

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-Pie-like, yes.

-It's ready now. We can add coconut milk.

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That's fine.

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We'll let it simmer for a good ten minutes

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until the pie's almost cooked.

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It doesn't cook for a predominant amount of time.

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Normally, you associate with pies, cook them for an hour.

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-This is quite quick.

-We'll let it simmer.

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You have to make sure, before you put it in the pan,

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I prefer to use this.

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I know you laugh at me.

1:14:251:14:26

-You're a mate of mine but...

-You don't want your pastry to sink in.

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That's the main thing.

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Before you add the pie into the pie dish,

1:14:351:14:39

the pies should be really cold otherwise the pastry will melt.

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-It's a great tip, James. You can laugh at it.

-It's great, that.

1:14:441:14:48

-I love that.

-If you have a pie funnel, you can add it.

1:14:481:14:52

-Why not use a shallower dish?

-A shallower dish.

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You could. You could.

1:14:571:14:59

If I did that for my folks back in Yorkshire,

1:14:591:15:02

they would think they had been short-changed.

1:15:021:15:04

LAUGHTER

1:15:041:15:07

-Fresh air in the middle.

-Have you got that?

-Part of the plan.

1:15:071:15:11

-Got the pastry here.

-Perfect.

-You've got some spices.

1:15:121:15:17

-Tell us about the spices.

-The spices, we've got coriander,

1:15:171:15:20

fennel and black sesame seeds.

1:15:201:15:22

You can use whatever blend you want, but I prefer that.

1:15:221:15:25

I'm going to put the egg wash on top and then sprinkle the spices once

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I have the pastry on top.

1:15:301:15:32

Just to make a beautiful crust. I'll let you do that.

1:15:331:15:37

I'll put that on to stop the pastry from falling in there.

1:15:371:15:41

A bit of egg wash round the edge.

1:15:421:15:45

You just want coarsely-crushed spices.

1:15:451:15:49

-There you go, chef.

-Perfect.

-Sprinkles on the top.

1:15:511:15:54

I love this with the old spices on the top.

1:15:561:15:58

Then you bake this in the oven?

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You bake it in the oven at 200 degrees centigrade.

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-How long will you do this for?

-For about 10-12 minutes, James.

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-It's just the pastry to get cooked.

-We've got our lovely pie here.

1:16:051:16:09

I'll lift this over.

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Here you go. I'll get a plate.

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There you go, Chef. It looks fantastic.

1:16:161:16:18

There you go.

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There you go.

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I'll use a bigger spoon.

1:16:261:16:28

That's better.

1:16:281:16:30

-A little bit of salad with this.

-Yup.

1:16:301:16:33

-There you go. I suppose you could do individual ones.

-Easily.

1:16:361:16:40

Look at that.

1:16:471:16:48

Fantastic. First time I've ever seen an Indian pie.

1:16:501:16:53

Beautiful.

1:16:551:16:57

-It'll taste delicious, I hope.

-Remind us what that is again.

1:16:581:17:01

-Gymkhana chicken pie.

-Easy as that.

1:17:011:17:04

-Absolutely fabulous.

-I can't wait.

-You can't wait?

-It looks amazing.

1:17:091:17:15

Not a cauliflower in sight.

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-It smells delicious.

-It does smell good.

1:17:171:17:21

I love the combination of chicken and coconut milk.

1:17:211:17:24

-They are made for each other.

-Using the chicken thighs as well.

1:17:241:17:27

-Take the skin off, stop them being too fatty.

-They are tasty, aren't they?

1:17:271:17:31

It seems like the cheaper cuts have a lot more flavour.

1:17:311:17:33

-Mmm. My boys are going to love that.

-There's a bit left over.

1:17:351:17:42

You can take that.

1:17:421:17:43

Apart from chicken, what else could you do with that?

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You could use beef, venison, duck. Whatever you fancy.

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-I suppose fish could work.

-I should have said fish first.

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-Fish works really well with that. Haddock, salmon, prawns.

-Gorgeous.

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As always, when he cooks, it's fantastic. The spices, fantastic.

1:17:591:18:04

Where was the centre of that pie? It did look good, though.

1:18:091:18:12

Right. Now, when Katy Brand came to the studio

1:18:121:18:15

to face her food heaven or food hell,

1:18:151:18:17

she had crossed fingers for coriander

1:18:171:18:19

but was picky about pork. Let's find out what she got.

1:18:191:18:22

Food heaven would be coriander,

1:18:221:18:24

which could turn into a lovely little curry,

1:18:241:18:26

with some, er,

1:18:261:18:28

some lovely line-caught cod here, nice little pilau rice,

1:18:281:18:31

-and some coriander flatbreads.

-And a milkshake?

1:18:311:18:33

Yes, a little bit of milkshake, could be that.

1:18:331:18:36

Or it could be this pork chop over here, grilled,

1:18:361:18:39

with cavolo nero, which is lovely

1:18:391:18:41

with an apple and cider sauce,

1:18:411:18:43

-and then some crispy black pudding fritters.

-I like the cider.

1:18:431:18:47

Yeah, OK. And what do you think it's going to be?

1:18:471:18:50

What do you think these lot have chosen?

1:18:501:18:52

Well, I've tried my best to be on best behaviour today,

1:18:521:18:56

so this... Normally I'm an appalling human being,

1:18:561:18:58

and I've tried to be charming in order to get, you know...

1:18:581:19:01

-And it's worked.

-Psychopathic manipulation.

-It's worked!

1:19:011:19:04

That's what you've got. Apart from one caller, so we'll lose that.

1:19:041:19:08

We've got our cod now. What I'm going to do is

1:19:081:19:10

get our curry on first of all.

1:19:101:19:12

Now, we're going to start off with some onion, first of all.

1:19:121:19:15

So I should get you to chop this, really...

1:19:151:19:17

-I can't do it like that.

-..since you did the old MasterChef.

1:19:171:19:20

Yeah, but I asked them not to film me chopping an onion

1:19:201:19:23

-cos I was too embarrassed.

-Really?

-Yeah.

1:19:231:19:25

So we're basically going to finely chop this,

1:19:251:19:27

-if you can just grab me a little bit of oil...

-Which one?

-Any.

1:19:271:19:30

The small bottle will be fine. About two tablespoons in there.

1:19:301:19:33

We'll get these onions frying.

1:19:331:19:35

That'll do, thank you very much.

1:19:351:19:37

We'll get that frying in there nicely.

1:19:371:19:40

Get a bit of colour on these as well.

1:19:401:19:42

So John's going to do a nice little sort of pilau rice as well

1:19:421:19:44

so he's going to start of with again some onions, and that's the thing

1:19:441:19:48

with Indian cooking, it's onions, onions, onions.

1:19:481:19:50

I'd love to know how to make proper pilau rice.

1:19:501:19:52

-Well, he's going to show you now.

-Very simple.

1:19:521:19:55

-Just a little bit of onion and spice...

-Yep.

1:19:551:19:58

Touch of garlic...

1:19:581:20:00

And then braise it, really.

1:20:001:20:02

-Mmm?

-Just braising it.

1:20:021:20:04

Meanwhile, we are going to take our spices for this.

1:20:041:20:06

-So, we have got cinnamon, we have got some...

-Is that fennel?

1:20:061:20:10

-..coriander seeds... No, this is cumin seeds...

-Oh, cumin seeds.

1:20:101:20:13

..a bit of mustard seed has gone in there as well.

1:20:131:20:16

And then just a touch of turmeric has gone in there.

1:20:161:20:21

So, I'm going to brown off these onions,

1:20:211:20:23

I want to get these nice and coloured

1:20:231:20:25

so if you can look after those while

1:20:251:20:26

I go over here and get this on as well. These are our spices.

1:20:261:20:29

So, are you going to explain what you're doing over there,

1:20:291:20:32

-Michael, with the flatbreads?

-So, yes, absolutely.

1:20:321:20:35

I have got some spices, turmeric and, I think it's cumin as well.

1:20:351:20:40

We have some plain flour, we got some flatbread,

1:20:401:20:44

so I have just chopped your lovely coriander through it.

1:20:441:20:47

A little bit of salt. And we are just going to mix that together and then we are

1:20:471:20:50

going to roll it out and create lovely flatbread for you.

1:20:501:20:52

All right, do you see the spices?

1:20:541:20:56

We are going to grind these up, you want it nice and powdered.

1:20:561:21:00

I've toasted these in a dry pan to start with

1:21:001:21:03

so these have got the cinnamon in as well.

1:21:031:21:07

Did you deliberately give me the shortest spoon in the kitchen?

1:21:071:21:10

-Sorry.

-For the hottest pan?

1:21:101:21:12

-You've got the longest spoon in the kitchen.

-Oh, thank you.

1:21:121:21:15

That's what I like.

1:21:151:21:17

SHE LAUGHS

1:21:171:21:18

Right, here we go with that now. Spices going in.

1:21:181:21:20

I'm now going to take the garlic and the ginger.

1:21:201:21:22

I'm going to add the garlic now because I don't want it to burn

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so get the onions coloured first.

1:21:261:21:27

So, just throw the garlic in like that.

1:21:271:21:31

And the ginger we'll pop in there as well.

1:21:311:21:33

So we're just going to toast off these spices even more...

1:21:331:21:35

And is this like a Southern Indian thing or a Thai thing?

1:21:351:21:39

Yeah, Goan sort of...

1:21:391:21:41

Curry with coconut milk, that kind of stuff, really.

1:21:411:21:44

And then we have got the ginger which I'm going to put in

1:21:441:21:46

finely diced, and one of the other things that I'm going to put

1:21:461:21:49

in right at the end is a little bit of mango to it as well.

1:21:491:21:52

-Oh, wow. Awesome.

-So we're going to throw that in.

-There, you see?

1:21:521:21:55

Your star anise seed.

1:21:551:21:57

You've got a little bit of cardamom pod inside there and

1:21:571:21:59

a touch of cinnamon and it gives you a very, very aromatic flavour.

1:21:591:22:03

So you are searing it off first, no colour.

1:22:031:22:06

-No colour, yeah. Just glazing the rice.

-Yeah.

1:22:061:22:09

OK.

1:22:091:22:10

I'm going to throw in the ginger. Turn that off.

1:22:101:22:13

That one on, that one off.

1:22:131:22:14

-And then we can start to add our fish.

-It smells lovely.

1:22:141:22:17

-It smells good, doesn't it?

-Yeah.

1:22:171:22:19

But then, the other thing that we're going to put in there is this stuff.

1:22:191:22:22

-This is tamarind.

-Oh, yes.

-You find it in a lot of the sort of curries.

1:22:221:22:24

-Particularly with duck as well. It goes fantastic with duck.

-Yeah, it's lovely, isn't it?

1:22:241:22:28

But you only want a little bit of it because it's quite sour on

1:22:281:22:31

its own. So, we just put a touch in there and I'm going to bring

1:22:311:22:34

-that to the boil now and add our fish.

-What kind of fish is that?

1:22:341:22:38

This is line caught cod. Really, this one.

1:22:381:22:41

But, nowadays, you can use pollock which is good.

1:22:411:22:44

-So, that's sort of good girl cod, is it?

-Good girl cod.

1:22:441:22:46

Line caught cod.

1:22:461:22:48

Rather than the net caught cod which is all manner of

1:22:481:22:50

different stuff they catch at the same time.

1:22:501:22:52

Cos you sort of feel like you can't eat cod at all now,

1:22:521:22:55

but line caught cod is fine, is it?

1:22:551:22:56

Well, the line caught one, they hand-pick them, I suppose,

1:22:561:22:59

any smaller ones they have to put back so, you know,

1:22:591:23:01

-it's labour-intensive, but it's...

-Wandering off, Michael?

1:23:011:23:04

It's all right, we're being stitched up on the pan.

1:23:041:23:06

You get the proper sized fish as well so... In we go with the cod.

1:23:061:23:10

And the reason why I don't put this in too early is because it's

1:23:101:23:13

going to overcook. So we'll just take that off.

1:23:131:23:16

Yeah, what it is is that I thought we were going to be in a bigger pan.

1:23:161:23:20

So, we have ended up with a smaller.

1:23:201:23:22

I'll put a bit in there and I'll roll out another one.

1:23:221:23:24

Let me switch this off. Switch that on.

1:23:241:23:27

Off as well, so we have got the rice cooking as well, turn it up,

1:23:271:23:31

turn that one off, so you have got the old flatbreads,

1:23:311:23:34

little bit of oil in there as well and then we are just going to

1:23:341:23:38

take this and then just finely dice this together with the chilli

1:23:381:23:43

and put it in there at the last minute.

1:23:431:23:45

So, are you on a book tour at the moment, then? Is that it?

1:23:451:23:48

-You going all over the UK?

-Yeah, we're just sort of cranking up now.

1:23:481:23:51

I mean, obviously people can buy the e-book right now if they are

1:23:511:23:53

literally desperate to read it this afternoon.

1:23:531:23:55

-I have just downloaded it, actually.

-Have you?

-Yeah.

1:23:551:23:58

-And, yeah, I bought your recipe book as well.

-Thank you.

1:23:581:24:00

And, and yours, John. And yours!

1:24:001:24:05

And I've got the Saturday kitchen app!

1:24:051:24:09

Yes, if people want a paperback or a hardback,

1:24:091:24:12

that's out at the end of July so I'm sort of doing this at various

1:24:121:24:16

book festivals and really looking forward to it, actually.

1:24:161:24:19

So, is the film sort of career,

1:24:191:24:21

is that something you would like to do more of or is that...

1:24:211:24:24

Yes, I mean, I love working in film, it's lovely to work on something

1:24:241:24:26

long form and really get to know a whole crew and cast

1:24:261:24:29

over the course of a few months and I'd love to direct a film

1:24:291:24:31

so hopefully that'll happen at some point in the future.

1:24:311:24:34

And this new one, is it musical based?

1:24:341:24:37

-What is the idea of the new film?

-Oh, no. It's very much a musical.

1:24:371:24:40

-That's it?

-Yeah, people will burst into song at a moment's notice,

1:24:401:24:43

so people should be prepared for that when they arrive.

1:24:431:24:46

It's... And it's a really fun summer film.

1:24:461:24:49

You know, you get a tan just watching it and Italy is just

1:24:491:24:52

ravishing in it, you know,

1:24:521:24:54

it's sort of turquoise sea and beautiful landscapes so...

1:24:541:24:57

-Don't big it up to much.

-Yeah, OK!

-Tonight, you know.

-Oh, yes. But...

1:24:571:25:02

Yeah, it's just that it's a very fun summer film, really.

1:25:021:25:05

-It's just, you know, sort of...

-Well, we look forward to it as well.

1:25:051:25:08

-Thank you.

-Right, how are we doing with the old flatbreads?

1:25:081:25:10

-Yes, I'm about to turn them over.

-I'll just get a spoon as well.

1:25:101:25:14

So I'll just bring over the rice which is I think now cooked.

1:25:141:25:17

So, you cook the rice for about sort of 20 minutes, really,

1:25:171:25:20

I suppose, just gently cooked with the lid on.

1:25:201:25:23

-It has definitely been 20 minutes since...

-This one?

1:25:231:25:25

Yes, it has definitely been 20 minutes.

1:25:251:25:27

And then right at the last minute cos this is...

1:25:271:25:30

The fish has started to cook.

1:25:301:25:32

So, all we do with this is just turn it over and it will cook

1:25:321:25:35

-the other side. The key to this is just...

-It smells so good.

1:25:351:25:38

Yeah, it's actually starting to just sort of fall apart

1:25:381:25:40

at the moment, this one.

1:25:401:25:42

So, just turn it over like that, it doesn't take very long when

1:25:421:25:45

you put fish in the pan like this with...

1:25:451:25:47

You boil it. And then coriander.

1:25:471:25:49

-Lots of it.

-Yes, lots of it.

-Cos this is what you wanted.

1:25:491:25:53

-So you cannot see the curry.

-All right.

1:25:531:25:56

A bit of salt as well.

1:25:561:25:57

-All put in there, have you got any salt there, boys?

-Just...

1:25:571:26:00

-Yeah, I just thought I had it.

-It's all right, I'll use this.

1:26:001:26:02

A bit of salt.

1:26:021:26:04

Just pop that in there.

1:26:041:26:06

Just the smell of coriander. I wish someone would make a perfume that was just sort of Eau du Coriander.

1:26:061:26:10

THEY LAUGH

1:26:101:26:11

Just put on my... Snorting coriander. That's how much I love it.

1:26:111:26:16

Right, are they...

1:26:171:26:19

-My aftershave smells a little bit of coriander.

-Does it?

1:26:191:26:22

-You aftershave has got coriander in it?!

-Don't make me lick you.

1:26:221:26:25

THEY LAUGH

1:26:251:26:26

Well, it all happened here.

1:26:281:26:30

THEY LAUGH

1:26:301:26:31

I'm glad you were going to say that,

1:26:311:26:33

because I didn't know where to go after that.

1:26:331:26:35

Last seen at the Ritz.

1:26:351:26:37

Like Margaret Thatcher. No, I shouldn't have said that.

1:26:371:26:40

And then I've got salt and pepper in there, right,

1:26:421:26:47

-how are we doing with the old flatbreads?

-Yes, just cooked.

1:26:471:26:50

-Just about there.

-Yes, just about there.

1:26:501:26:52

-Fish is cooked as well.

-This is great,

1:26:521:26:55

basically I have got three men cooking me my lunch.

1:26:551:26:58

This is how I want to live all the time,

1:26:581:27:00

-this is how I imagine Madonna lives.

-Is it?

-Yes.

1:27:001:27:03

I'm sure she has got air conditioning.

1:27:031:27:06

It's proper hot in here, I tell you.

1:27:061:27:08

-Right, have you got a cloth?

-Yes.

1:27:081:27:10

-There you go.

-Oh, so good.

-Lovely.

1:27:141:27:18

I have just suddenly thought,

1:27:181:27:19

people are going to be sort of tuning in about 10 o'clock

1:27:191:27:22

to see us three dancing like Madness to Beyonce.

1:27:221:27:25

But the reason for it was you did... You did...

1:27:251:27:27

I did the single ladies dance for Sport Relief a few years ago,

1:27:271:27:31

yes, and I have never been allowed to forget it.

1:27:311:27:33

It was fantastic. Much better than us by the way, as well.

1:27:331:27:36

Thank you for voting for my food heaven.

1:27:361:27:38

-Tell us what you think of that one.

-I'm really very grateful.

1:27:381:27:41

A bit of kick with the chilli in at the end.

1:27:411:27:43

Mmm.

1:27:441:27:46

-Oh, that's so nice.

-You happy with that?

-Yes, thank you.

1:27:461:27:49

So, which tasted better, Katie? The curry or John Williams?

1:27:531:27:56

Well, I'm afraid that's it for this week's Best Bites, I hope you

1:27:561:27:59

have enjoyed taking a look back at some of the delicious dishes

1:27:591:28:02

from Saturday Kitchen's store cupboard.

1:28:021:28:04

Have a great week and we'll see you soon.

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