04/06/2017 Saturday Kitchen Best Bites


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There's a mouthwatering menu lined up for you today,

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so sit back, put your feet up and enjoy the show.

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This is Saturday Kitchen Best Bites.

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Welcome to the show.

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Now, you won't want to go anywhere, as we've got great chefs

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serving fantastic food and a handful of hungry guests, too.

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Coming up on today's show...

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James Martin serves up vodka and tonic-battered haddock

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with mushy peas for Cheryl Baker.

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Jun Tanaka is here with a recipe for perfect pork.

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Pork chops are marinated in a tangy soy and tomato puree sauce

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and then griddled and served with a chorizo, potato

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and a herb dressing.

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Stuart Gillies shows us a great dish with quail.

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The quail breast and legs are fried and then coated in

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a bois boudran sauce and plated up with a zesty potato salad.

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The talented Tom Kitchin and the dazzling Daniel Clifford

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go head-to-head at the Omelette Challenge hobs.

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And then it's over to Fernando Stovell,

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who's cooking up his take on an Italian favourite.

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He assembles layers of fried tortillas, shredded chicken,

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cheese, chilli and tomato sauce to create a Mexican-style lasagne.

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And finally, Julia Stiles faces her food heaven or her food hell.

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Did she get her food heaven,

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gravlax with deep-fried egg and avocado salad?

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Or her food hell, stewed octopus with herb tabbouleh?

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You can find out what she got at the end of the show.

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But first, it's over to Sabrina Ghayour,

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with her offering of quick and flavourful finger food.

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-Great to have you on the show.

-Oh, thank you!

-There you go.

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Right, three dishes. So, which...

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Most of which I'll be doing, by the sounds of things.

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-I'll try not to, but...

-What do you want me to do?

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Let me get on. So, basically, if you can cut

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some slices of bread there and then get some garlic thinly sliced

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and thinly slice the flame-roasted pepper.

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Flame-roasted pepper, just put it directly into the fire

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until it blisters, then we're going to slice it

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and add it right at the end.

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I'll get on with the prawns,

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so I've got some really big, fat, lovely prawns here.

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-This is a chilli pepper...

-Yeah, it is.

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It just adds a little bit of pep.

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But you can definitely leave it out, also.

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It's not so much of a bother if you wanted to leave it out.

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So, big prawns, just going to snip their heads off,

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makes it nice and easier.

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"Nice and easier"? Nice and easy.

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-And then, just kind of run the scissors...

-Now, Persian food,

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tell us the secret of Persian food.

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So the secret of Persian food is we don't use spice as much

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as the rest of the Middle East.

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We're more about aromatics,

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herbs, flavours, saffron and citrus, really.

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Quite, quite plain, erm, essentially.

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But Middle Eastern food is very bold in spice and quite different to us.

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But this kind of food is just... It's Middle-Eastern inspired.

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It's just good food - and it's fairly easy, to be honest.

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That's kind of how I can manage to get a few things on the table

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all at once and...

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-It's very colourful, isn't it? Persian food?

-Yeah, it is.

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Yeah, you know, we have the perfect seasons in Iran, erm...

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So, we have perfect springs, summers, winters

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and all different climates, so it's really quite wonderful.

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I'm very lucky for that. Now, here, I've got preserved lemons.

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Preserved lemons, you will get on the supermarket shelves.

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They're absolutely lovely

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and they're kind of preserved, packed in salt,

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so they've got, like, a salty flavour

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-and they're quite gelatinous on the inside.

-Yes.

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Sliced in marinade, sauces, salads, they're wonderful.

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Here, we're just going to put them in a little bit of a blender.

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We've got a little bit of ginger.

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-You can buy these, they come in little jars.

-Yeah, they do.

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And they're so...

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They're just a great store cupboard staple and, you know,

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most of my cooking comes alive, comes together with the use

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of the store cupboard and the spice cupboard.

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So all the times that we end up getting a jar of something and don't

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know what to do to it, I just use spices in everything and it just...

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You use it, things taste so much better. So...

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I'm doing this little broad bean dish,

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-which is the charred...

-Yes.

-..chilli.

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Yeah, cos broad beans are coming into season soon, hopefully.

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-So it's...

-Mine will be about three months away, I think.

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Yeah, you know what? If you can't...

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My plants are about that big in my garden.

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If you can't find them, you can get them from the freezers in the supermarket.

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Absolutely fine to use that. Just peel them.

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We peel them in the Middle East.

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We tend to prefer them in Iran without the skin on.

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But just use them however you like.

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They've got wonderful flavour, more importantly.

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-Sabrina?

-Yeah?

-Can I ask a question, please?

-Yeah.

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-Ask as many questions as you want.

-A very generic question.

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Why are some prawns white and some prawns red?

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So, it's just all the different types of prawns.

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There are so many different varieties that come from

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-so many different countries, so you have the Spanish red prawns...

-Yes?

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..that are absolutely unbelievable, amazing.

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Erm... And then you just have black tiger prawns,

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Madagascan prawns, so many different types...

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And that's just the colour of them?

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-It's not because they're not cooked or anything?

-No, not at all.

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No, no. Prawns...

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They all go whitish pink, basically, when they're cooked.

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-No, it's not because they're not cooked!

-OK, thank you.

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And some of them keep a little bit more red than pink

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-when they are cooked.

-Thank you very much.

-So don't panic.

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In here, got honey, as well. I'm going to blitz this.

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Right, now, this is...

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In there, I'll explain what I've got here - we've got some garlic oil,

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the broad beans, the charred chilli...

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Yeah, a little bit of salt and pepper.

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Which is that.

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And then that... We're going to put some goat's cheese

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onto our bruschetta there.

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Or we can just toast them, if it's easier.

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-it's just about getting that flavour on there.

-OK.

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And then we're going to top it with that

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-and a little bit of chopped spring onion at the end.

-OK...

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And here, I'm just making a little sauce for my prawns.

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It's just really lovely. It gives you that...

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-Is that a classic sauce with the...?

-No.

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It's not really classic cooking, to be honest.

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I've done a lot of the classic stuff on here, but I just...

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It's how I eat every day,

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it's a little bit more, kind of, modern,

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a little bit lighter,

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embracing different flavours and combinations...

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Yeah, because I saw that you put ginger on.

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-Yes.

-You put ginger on it.

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-It's not common in Persian cuisine.

-It's not, really.

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Ginger is actually used in the southern provinces,

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-where we have influence from other countries, basically.

-Right.

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But not terribly commonly, but I love it.

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-I love it, too.

-We don't use preserved lemons either, but I love it. So...

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These are the... This is the meatball mixture without the meat.

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Basically, you make them like you'd make a kofta,

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so you've got eggs, but you're going to use bulgur wheat to bind it.

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You're going to get your spices in there,

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you've got some cinnamon, you've got turmeric, cumin,

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little bit of dried fruit -

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I'm using cranberries, nice, easily available.

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And then some flour to bind, you've got to squelch it,

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really, really work it and get them into a little ball shape.

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-Good luck!

-Nice.

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I made a complete mess of this in rehearsal, so here we go.

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No, you didn't.

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SABRINA LAUGHS Er... Yes, I did.

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-He's doing it better than me!

-Right.

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And then what I'm going to do is also put the prawns on here.

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Take this pepper off. In a minute. Give it a little bit.

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And it's not afraid to really burn things,

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we love, kind of, burning aubergines

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and chillies, and peppers, and whatnot.

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This is great barbecue food, as well, by the way,

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if we do eventually hit summer at some stage in this country...

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This is my perfect food.

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You can burn things. I'll be excellent at this.

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Burn things and get away with it, yeah.

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It's my forte.

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It's the only time it's actually OK.

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So how long do you keep those prawns in the marinade, then?

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You can actually stick them in from the morning of, basically,

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I would say.

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They sit quite comfortably in there. And they're just...

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-It's a really, really lovely dish.

-Yeah.

-And it's quite easily done.

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You don't have to use those mammoth prawns, you can also use chicken.

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And if you want to be, like, little bit lazy,

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like me, you can just get it all in a pan, like a wok or something,

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hot temperature and stir-fry it, get a little bit more sauce.

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But from the perspective of finger food, they're great.

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Big prawns, tail on like that.

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Right, so what you do with this, you keep it in your hands and...

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SABRINA LAUGHS

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Yeah. I feel like, er, I might come and...

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-Yeah...

-Squeeze it.

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I'm not going to lie, it's a little tricky.

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I don't want people to think,

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"Well, I'm doing this at home and it's not that easy."

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-There you go.

-What you're saying...

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You can overcook the bulgur wheat to get it nice and squishy,

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and then you clasp it, whereas in a meatball, you would actually...

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You don't have to do it like that!

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There you go.

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OK? See?

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-It's got all kinds of greenery growing out of it.

-Happy with that?

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-Yes, luckily...

-Luckily, we've got some that have taken...

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-Shape earlier.

-..shape in the fridge.

-Yeah.

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And it's probably better off to keep them in the fridge,

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isn't it, really?

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Yeah, so what you can do is you can actually just make them

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the day before and keep them in the fridge and then they keep

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their shape, nice and firm, straight into a fryer,

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or, if you want to, you can shallow-fry them as well.

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-They're going to go in here.

-OK?

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Going to put a little bit more of the marinade on them,

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no harm to use it.

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And then, if you've got any left, you can just fry it up on the side

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and serve it as a sauce, but make sure you cook it out to make sure

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all the bacteria's kind of killed off

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-and health and safety and all that.

-Eh?

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Right, then you're going to put a little of this cheese on the top.

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You're going to put the cheese onto the bruschetta.

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-Little bit. Generous!

-All right.

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Go in there with a good centimetre's worth!

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-Cream cheese, or...?

-Sorry?

-What is it?

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-What is this?

-This is just soft goat's cheese

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you can get readily from the supermarket.

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-Mm-hm.

-Nice and yummy.

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And you can use goat's curd, you can use just cream cheese,

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whatever you like.

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It's just something creamy to kind of offset the spice.

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And you can use peas, you don't have to use broad beans,

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-if you prefer.

-Mm.

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-Any of those recipes in your book?

-Er, no!

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These are all new.

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I don't want to bore people to death with the same recipes.

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My book's been out for a year, so, er...

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Obviously, it's still great!

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Well, I hope people think it's still great.

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This is just new stuff and it's also nice to be able to play with

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the seasons, because, you know, when you write a book,

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you don't always get to be seasonal at the time it comes out,

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so it's just nice to...

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You know, I love British produce, I love British ingredients,

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so I combine them with the eastern stuff and it ends up...

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Carry on!

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-Well, it is flame-grilled, right?

-LAUGHTER

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Urgh! It's fine... JAMES COUGHS

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Don't worry, James. We like it burned.

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Burned? There is no burned.

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No, that's just slightly caramelised.

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-Right. We can finish off these now.

-Lovely. Yeah.

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So these are your...

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-Toasted.

-Mmm.

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Right, I'll pop these on here.

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And then, I swear, this is the only bit of cheffy kit I have at home.

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Just little squeezy bottles that you can get really cheaply,

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like, for ketchup and whatnot?

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One is with yoghurt, Greek yoghurt, normal one,

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and one is with a tamarind sauce that you can get,

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like a tamarind ketchup, you can use a chilli sauce or whatever.

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It just gives it flavour, OK?

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So, going to...

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..literally see how rough and ready I am.

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No glamour. No precision.

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We've got the amazing, one of the best chefs in the world

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-and I'm just like...

-SHE BLOWS A RASPBERRY

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You're doing fantastic.

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-Yeah. Thanks, Chef.

-I'm very impressed.

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-Right, the prawns are ready.

-Oh, they look amazing.

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-It just picks up the favour a lot.

-You cook a lot, do you?

-I try.

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-I burn a lot.

-Uh-huh?

-But I attempt to cook.

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We don't call it burn, we call it brulee!

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Sorry, brulee, brulee. Thank you.

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THEY LAUGH

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-OK.

-And then we've got the nigella seeds on top.

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Little bit of salt.

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Beauts.

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-And we've got some sticks.

-Yeah.

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So this is what makes them, what I call lollipops.

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These are meatballs without meat that I used to do for

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my supper clubs to vegetarians,

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cos I didn't want them to miss out on the experience,

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so you can stick sticks in them

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and it kind of makes it a little bit fun.

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Kids love making them.

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-Do you still do your supper clubs?

-I don't, no.

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I'm actually doing a series of pop-ups and collaborations

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and I'm very excited that my first one will be

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with legend Angela Hartnett, who is one of my favourite chefs,

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one of my idols, at Lime Wood Hotel.

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-There you go.

-So that will be coming in November.

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What are you going to call this?

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This is going to be my FA Cup Finger Food Feast.

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-Fantastic.

-Bravo.

-That's what it is.

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-I was pretty busy on that one.

-Whoo!

-Right.

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A little heavier than I thought.

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Right, do you want the prawns, or are you...?

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You know what? I'm going to have a go.

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-You're going to have a go?

-I'll have a go.

-Right.

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Don't let anything happen to you.

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-I'm going to have all your fans on my case.

-Yes.

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I'm glad they'll be on your case and not my case.

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-Whoa, look at this.

-Look at that.

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I mean, the key to this, if it doesn't bind up,

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probably another egg and a bit of flour.

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Yeah, a little bit of flour.

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The texture of everything the temperature of your kitchen

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and the time of year is all going to differ,

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but do what you need to get it into a ball shape.

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You can also use couscous, mashed-up leftover rice.

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-Just use that instead of meat.

-Good idea, that. There you go.

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Now, that was back in 2015,

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and you might have noticed that it was FA Cup Final day.

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Arsenal went on to beat Aston Villa 4-0. Like anyone's interested.

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Anyway, coming up,

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James cooks vodka and tonic-battered haddock with mushy peas

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for Cheryl Baker, but first, it's over to Rick Stein,

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who is in Puglia, doing a little research into sea urchin.

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A friend asked me the other day what was special about Puglian food,

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and the first thing that came to mind was ricci, sea urchins.

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When I think Puglia, I think of ricci,

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and I think of particularly, later on today,

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a lovely plate of pasta with ricci.

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Because there's not a lot in a ricci,

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but when you combine it with some pasta

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and some garlic and some olive oil,

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maybe a bit of parsley, you get that real taste of the sea.

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They take about 18 months to grow to this size

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and around here, they were so plentiful

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that conservation and overfishing never crossed the fishermen's' minds.

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But because they're a tremendous delicacy,

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the numbers are getting fewer, and for the first time,

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the fishermen are starting to think about what could be done

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to ensure that ricci remains plentiful.

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Most people who will come to eat these today

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will simply have them raw with a bit of bread and a glass of wine.

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You only eat the orange roes, but they're lovely.

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They say it's an acquired taste.

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I acquired mine nearly 30 years ago.

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This is one of my top five dishes from the Med,

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and it's cooked here by Rosa Martalotta.

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ROSA SPEAKS IN ITALIAN

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E molto, molto, molto buono.

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As you can gather, she likes it very much.

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So there's lots of olive oil, a humongous amount of garlic,

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and lots of sea urchin roes -

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I'd say about 50 of them for one portion.

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Then a splash of wine,

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and a handful of chopped parsley,

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and let it warm.

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It's cooked enough at this stage. Then in with the pasta.

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And in this part of the world, it doesn't take too long.

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Cinque, spaghetti tosto.

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"Cinque minuti" - five minutes.

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-Tosto?

-Tosto, duro...

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'And she says it has to be tosto.'

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I'm not quite sure what she means by "tosto".

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-Tosto, tosto...

-But I think I get the general...

-Duro...

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'I think she means it has to be fairly hard.'

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THEY LAUGH

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Well, like all good Italian cooks,

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the pasta goes into the sautee pan so that it gets completely covered

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in all those wonderful flavours of the sea, garlic and oil.

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-OK, mangiare.

-Mangiare!

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Tosta. Mmm!

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ROSA LAUGHS

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E dura, e dura.

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-It is.

-Si!

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I mean, when the Italians talk about al dente...

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Al dente, al dente.

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SHE SPEAKS IN ITALIAN ..they really mean it.

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I mean, the pasta in here is almost hard

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and you couldn't serve it back home like that,

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people wouldn't go for it, but it's lovely.

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And it's got this lovely taste.

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I mean, everything in it, I doubt if anything that's in here

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was grown more than two or three miles away from this spot.

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I think that's what's just so special about Italian food,

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it is so simple.

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It's just what's around, what's available,

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and of course, it has a sort of, a sort of...

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Well, for want of a better word, a sort of truth about it,

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which just makes it so, so wonderful.

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You've got to arrive on the stroke of 12 to get a seat here.

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I was really surprised to see that most of the people

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eating these were young, probably students from the towns nearby.

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I expected grizzled old fisherman,

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puffing fags and knocking back grappa.

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I think the popularity of seafood in Puglia,

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like this grilled octopus,

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with the young is because they all grew up on it.

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They all seem to respect it for what it is.

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I can't imagine any of us could've gone past this without buying

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a kilo or two of fresh peas, harvested straight from the fields.

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-Er, due kilo...

-Due?

-Due, si.

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I'm very happy about this.

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I've just noticed a load of these guys on the road

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as I was driving up, and I was thinking,

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"I've got to have some", cos last night,

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I was in a restaurant in Ostuni, and we had a load of antipasti,

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and they just brought out a big bowl of peas in the pod,

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and I was thinking, "Imagine if I did that in England," you know?

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People would think I'd gone bonkers.

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But it was such a perfect thing, it's the thing I really remember

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about the meal, because they were so fresh.

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They're the first peas of the season.

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GROCER SPEAKS IN ITALIAN Si.

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Grazie.

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'I can remember lots of expeditions with my children to pick your own,

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'intending to stock the freezer with beans and peas,

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'or make jam with strawberries and raspberries.

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'But none of it got further than the car.'

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Childhood memories. It doesn't get any better than this.

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Back in Padstow, what to do with a bag full of the new season's peas?

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It's such a pleasure to see

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the first peas and broad beans of the season.

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It's a bit like hearing the cuckoo for the first time.

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This is peas braised with onions and Parma ham.

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It's the sort of thing you only want to cook when the peas

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are at their tippy top.

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Start by searing the onions in some olive oil -

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very hot oil, so they colour up quickly.

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Add a small amount of water and cover them

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so that they are left to stew and soften.

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Cut the ham into small chunks.

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"Cubetti", as they say in Italia.

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They'll end up looking like little jewels in a sea of green.

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Now, this is really good bistro food, I think.

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With a glass or two of chilled white wine

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and some crusty bread,

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it would make a memorable lunch.

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Then some roughly chopped garlic - two or three cloves is quite enough.

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And finally, at last, in with the peas.

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They won't take long to cook and you don't want mushy peas.

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Just need to add a little bit of water cos it's just a tad dry.

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Needs to stew down in that water or go into with the olive oil,

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make a nice little emulsion.

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And now some seasoning. Just fill this dish.

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I'm on a bit of a roll.

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This is the sort of thing people love.

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I mean, similar dishes do this you can get in Spain -

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that's pea and Serrano ham.

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And in France with Bayonne ham, Italy with Parma ham.

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And, of course, not forgetting our own pea and ham soup.

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It's a great combination.

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And finally, a little, not too much salt.

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Not too much, otherwise the salt police will be on to me again.

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Serve them in a warm bowl with lots of flat leaf parsley stirred in.

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There is an argument going on in Italy at the moment.

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Some trendy chefs are refusing to put garlic in anything

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and the old brigade are outraged, as indeed am I.

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This wouldn't be half as good without it.

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They've got to be joking!

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Pea and ham is just one of those classic combination of flavours

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that really works well together.

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Some ingredients that were meant to be eaten together,

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and being from the North and having two Italians here,

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is the combination of fish and Yorkshire caviar -

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mushy peas.

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-Say again, that word?

-Yorkshire caviar.

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Just read my lips.

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Mushy peas. Not MOOSHY peas.

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It is mooshy peas, that's what it is.

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You're telling me how to speak English, there we go, right.

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He's been here longer than I have as well. He was born in Watford.

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-Mushy peas.

-Making it all up. Right.

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First of all, what we're going to do is we'll make our batter for this.

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This is... The way that our fish... It's slightly different.

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What we're going to do with this is we're going to use haddock for this

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and I thought we'd use plain flour, some yeast...

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There we go, a little bit of yeast. This is dried yeast.

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And then we use salt and sugar.

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We keep that separate to the yeast, cos salt will kill yeast.

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Right, sugar will feed it, salt will kill it.

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So we keep it separate for the moment.

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When we mix it all together, it doesn't matter.

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Bit of cider vinegar. This is where it gets...

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-You'll like this, Cheryl.

-Can you see that...?

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-Vodka and tonic.

-I do like vodka and tonic.

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Vodka and tonic in a batter. That's vodka going in there.

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And this is tonic water.

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-That will be like tempura, won't it?

-Yeah.

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But vodka and tonic. And having the yeast in there, it froths up.

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Are you saying that dry yeast and dry salt don't work...?

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-Kill each other.

-..but when they're wet, they are OK?

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They will kill each other.

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If you put salt on yeast directly, it will die.

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But it's OK when it's mixed.

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It's all right when it's mixed up cos you got the sugar in there

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and you need it somewhere warm that nicely froths it up.

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And then we've got here...

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Leave that for about 45 minutes

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and we end up with our batter, like that - you can see that.

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Smell that, it smells like bread.

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It does. Why have we put vodka in it?

0:22:010:22:03

Cos you're here. SHE LAUGHS

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Just vodka and tonic batter. I just think it really works well.

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I do like vodka and tonic, I do.

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What we do is we take our haddock like that

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and just pop that in the fryer.

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So make sure it's really well coated.

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No need to flour that beforehand.

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Just pop it straight into our fryer. Be really careful when you do this.

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Always lay the fish, kind of, away from you at that point.

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Pop it in so it doesn't splatter up on you.

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And then of course, the most important thing with this

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is, of course, scraps.

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-Scraps?

-Scraps.

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-What is this scraps?

-Scrapelo for you.

-Ah, scrapelo!

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-That sits on there.

-Ah.

-CHERYL LAUGHS

0:22:400:22:42

Obviously, we can't talk about today without talking about Eurovision.

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Now, you had several attempts at it before '81, when you won.

0:22:460:22:49

-Yeah, I did the Song For Europe, as it used to be called.

-Yes.

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The first one I ever did was in 1976 and I came second to

0:22:530:22:56

Brotherhood Of Man, lost by two points.

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-You know... Kisses For Me, that one.

-Yes.

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-That won and we lost by two points.

-Did you?

-A song called Wake Up.

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Then I was in it several years in different guises.

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But then I won with the band called Co-Co in 1978.

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We went on to do Eurovision in Paris, and sadly,

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although we were tipped to win, we came 11th,

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which was the worst the UK had ever done at that time,

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so I was humiliated, I was distraught.

0:23:210:23:23

I mean, what's it like, going back into it again?

0:23:230:23:26

-Well, I didn't think we'd do any worse than 11th.

-Right.

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And I thought, actually, Making Your Mind Up was a great Eurovision song

0:23:290:23:32

so I was... To be perfectly honest, James, the reason I did it

0:23:320:23:35

was so that my mum and dad could watch me on the telly again.

0:23:350:23:38

Right. So then how did Bucks Fizz come about? How was that...?

0:23:380:23:41

Well, because I'd been in Co-Co and I'd done the Eurovision

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and I was in a girl-boy harmony band and I left,

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the woman who put Bucks Fizz together knew me

0:23:490:23:51

from my previous experience and she just approached me

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and asked me to join.

0:23:550:23:56

Mike Nolan was already there because Bucks Fizz, if you like,

0:23:560:23:59

was built around Mike, he was the first one in the band.

0:23:590:24:02

-I suppose I was the second.

-Yeah.

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Jay Aston came through a dance agency

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and Bobby G, I believe, answered an advert in The Stage or something.

0:24:070:24:12

Why do you think that was a success as opposed to everything else

0:24:120:24:15

before it didn't go so well?

0:24:150:24:18

-Um...

-Was it Velcro?

-Of course it was Velcro, for goodness' sake!

0:24:180:24:21

It was Velcro, it was the bright primary colours,

0:24:210:24:26

the song was a very happy song, we all had blonde hair.

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It was just...

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We didn't all have blonde hair before the competition,

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we had to be done so that our hair and our height even -

0:24:330:24:36

we all had to be the same height as Mike Nolan.

0:24:360:24:39

-It's all down to Mike Nolan.

-CHERYL LAUGHS

0:24:390:24:42

-Really, that much goes into it?

-Yeah.

-Cos you see some of it

0:24:420:24:44

nowadays and, let's face it,

0:24:440:24:45

some of the stuff they're wearing is a bit...

0:24:450:24:47

It's a bit dodgy, isn't it, really?

0:24:470:24:49

Well, I think because we ripped the skirts off, at that time,

0:24:490:24:52

nothing like that had been done before, you know?

0:24:520:24:55

In 1975 or '74, when ABBA won,

0:24:550:24:58

-they wore quite outlandish outfits.

-Yeah.

0:24:580:25:01

But there wasn't anything other than the really strong song that

0:25:010:25:03

caught your eye that makes you think, "This is really good."

0:25:030:25:06

Making Your Mind Up, the song was good for Eurovision.

0:25:060:25:10

But it wasn't, I don't think, good enough to win.

0:25:100:25:12

Thankfully, because we had the rip-off skirts,

0:25:120:25:14

we won by four points.

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So why do you think we've done so badly since then?

0:25:170:25:19

Possibly because we've had bad songs,

0:25:190:25:22

possibly because everyone hates us.

0:25:220:25:24

-LAUGHTER

-Or a combination of both.

0:25:240:25:27

It seems to me that a lot of it before is that people voting

0:25:290:25:32

-for the next-door country and that kind of stuff.

-Yes, there is that.

0:25:320:25:35

I mean, the Eastern Europeans have had their own version

0:25:350:25:39

of the Eurovision and so their...

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Their comfort zone is voting for their next-door neighbour.

0:25:420:25:46

But I think they are now becoming more Westernised and I think,

0:25:460:25:49

possibly, hopefully anyway,

0:25:490:25:51

tonight's competition will be fairer than it has been for years.

0:25:510:25:53

Cos the voting has slightly changed, hasn't it now?

0:25:530:25:56

It changed last year. We thought, "Ah, this is good for us."

0:25:560:25:59

The voting's been changed so that the people vote and there are

0:25:590:26:03

professionals who vote as well, and we came last,

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so we can't use that as an excuse any more.

0:26:060:26:08

Right, Cheryl, I'm going to show you how to make Yorkshire caviar.

0:26:080:26:11

-Oh, do you know...

-Dried marrowfat peas.

-..this is my worst nightmare.

0:26:110:26:14

-What do you mean it's your worst nightmare?

-It gives you wind!

0:26:140:26:16

CHUCKLING

0:26:160:26:18

This is the reason why I have done it for you, cos you're in

0:26:180:26:20

-a nightclub tonight, you see.

-Oh.

-I believe you are actually going to

0:26:200:26:23

-a nightclub tonight after Eurovision.

-I'm working.

0:26:230:26:25

There's a big club in London called G-A-Y and cos it's Eurovision night

0:26:250:26:29

we're going to go and do a gig and it will be great.

0:26:290:26:31

It will be, cos you won't mind.

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Lots of people in there and what you do is you, if it does happen,

0:26:320:26:35

then you sort of do this over here, you know?

0:26:350:26:37

-LAUGHTER

-I'll be floating on air.

0:26:370:26:40

-Blame...

-I've learnt something.

0:26:400:26:42

-Oh, yes. Pasta fagioli...

-Exactly.

-..dancing and I'm away!

0:26:420:26:46

This should hopefully stop it, right. This is bicarb soda.

0:26:460:26:49

-Isn't that what gives you it?

-I don't know, but anyway,

0:26:490:26:52

it does something. CHERYL LAUGHS

0:26:520:26:54

Bicarb soda in with the marrowfat peas.

0:26:540:26:56

Leave those to soak. We've got the marrowfat peas here.

0:26:560:26:58

All we do is drain these off, right, like that,

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and cook them in plenty, plenty of water.

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Now, like you say, you drain them off for a good few hours

0:27:060:27:11

and you cook them in plenty of water.

0:27:110:27:13

And to finish that off, of course, we've got butter.

0:27:130:27:15

-Look at the fish.

-The fish looks great.

0:27:150:27:17

And we've got proper Yorkshire caviar there.

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And then I'm going to pop this on the plate. Look at this fish.

0:27:200:27:23

-Vodka and tonic batter for the fish.

-Mmm!

-And the wind is gone.

0:27:230:27:28

And the wind is gone!

0:27:280:27:29

Now, still on with the Eurovision.

0:27:290:27:31

You're doing a bit of a comeback gig in July.

0:27:310:27:33

Yeah, we're doing the 11 July.

0:27:330:27:34

We're at the... I was going to say the Albert Hall, we're not there.

0:27:340:27:37

-We're at the Palladium!

-Right.

-The Palladium, which was

0:27:370:27:40

the first theatre we ever worked in after winning Eurovision.

0:27:400:27:44

So we're doing our 30th anniversary at the Palladium on

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Monday 11th July and we've got Bjorn Again as our special guest.

0:27:470:27:50

-Fantastic.

-So it will be a Eurofest.

-A Eurofest, sounds good to me.

0:27:500:27:55

-Well, best of luck with it.

-Thank you very much.

0:27:550:27:57

-Best of luck tonight.

-We've got an album coming out too.

0:27:570:27:59

Oh, go on, then, tell us about your album.

0:27:590:28:01

We've got an album out that's currently called...um...

0:28:010:28:03

-Called Up Until Now.

-Yeah.

0:28:030:28:05

And that's actually on release now with all our old tracks.

0:28:050:28:09

And we've got a brand-new album,

0:28:090:28:10

Original Bucks Fizz, called Fame And Fortune.

0:28:100:28:13

So that will be to coincide with the gig at the...

0:28:130:28:16

Not the Albert Hall, the Palladium.

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If it goes well, you might be at the Albert Hall.

0:28:180:28:20

-The Albert Hall is the next one.

-There you go.

0:28:200:28:22

Right, I'll just get the old scrappy scrappio

0:28:220:28:25

for the old Italianos over here.

0:28:250:28:28

There you go.

0:28:280:28:29

That was a mistake-io.

0:28:290:28:32

That was a mistake-io, you made it.

0:28:320:28:35

-This is for you.

-This is for me.

-There you go.

0:28:350:28:38

-See, I don't eat fried food.

-Well, you do now.

0:28:380:28:41

-Of course I will do today.

-Cut it.

0:28:410:28:45

-Actually, that's great.

-Crispy...

0:28:460:28:48

-That sounds amazing.

-..crispy, crispy.

0:28:480:28:50

Vodka and tonic batter.

0:28:500:28:51

-Vodka and tonic. OK, can I have the lemon?

-Yeah.

0:28:510:28:53

It's Amalfi lemon. Now, take...

0:28:550:28:57

Don't forget that little bit of Yorkshire caviar.

0:28:570:28:59

Oh, and the Yorkshire caviar, OK. OK.

0:28:590:29:02

That's hot!

0:29:030:29:05

Happy with that?

0:29:060:29:08

It's fantastic.

0:29:080:29:09

Remember, if you're stood next to Cheryl in the nightclub, move away.

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THEY LAUGH

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So, just to recap, vodka in batter makes it crispy,

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and mushy peas in Cheryl Baker makes her windy.

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Anyway, moving on,

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today we're taking a look back at some of the best recipes from

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the Saturday Kitchen larder and there's still lots to come.

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Up next is Jun Tanaka, who was making his very first appearance

0:29:320:29:36

on Saturday Kitchen.

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-What are you going to cook for us?

-Right, I'm going to do griddled

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pork chop with some chorizo, piquillo peppers,

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some wild garlic, a nice herb dressing.

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Now, this is easy to do. Fantastic for friends and family.

0:29:440:29:48

-Actually, I'm going to cook it tomorrow for my goddaughter.

-OK.

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It's a great thing for a barbecue. As we said at the top of the show,

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you can do this as a barbecue, which will be really nice.

0:29:530:29:55

Yeah. The sauce, the marinade we're making is perfect for, like, a pork belly on a barbecue.

0:29:550:30:00

-Ah! Ah!

-Your dog?

-My dog. Yeah, that's fine.

0:30:000:30:03

Right. So, I've just taken the rind off.

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Now, the fat's got so much flavour, I'm going to keep most of it on.

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I'm just going to lightly season it, salt and pepper,

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and then I'm going to oil the pork itself, rather than the griddle,

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because if you put it straight onto the griddle,

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you're going to cause a fire.

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With pork, you need that fat on there to keep it nice and moist.

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Yes. Absolutely.

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My dad always said, he was a pork farmer, he said,

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"Lad, the pork should be bred to sit and eat in a field,

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"not to do the 100 metre hurdles."

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Which generally it is a lot of the time now.

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That good element of fat in there. Right. Great stuff. What's next?

0:30:320:30:34

OK. So, we're going to start doing the marinade.

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Now, for the marinade, we've got some tomato puree,

0:30:370:30:39

-we got some red wine vinegar, honey, and soya sauce.

-Yeah.

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And all were going to do... Just grab a spoon.

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It's kind of a little barbecue-style sauce this, then, is it, really?

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Yeah. It is.

0:30:470:30:49

I actually did this a few weeks ago for pork belly dish.

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It was absolutely delicious.

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Pork belly. Another underrated and underused piece of meat, I think.

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I think the reason why people don't like it,

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I think it's cooked very wrong a lot of the time,

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cooked very quick.

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-Anyway, you got the marinade.

-Just mix it about.

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And then I'm going to just flip that over...

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Now, if people were doing this on a barbecue,

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particularly with pork, would you suggest they finish in the oven?

0:31:120:31:15

Start it on the barbecue? How would you suggest?

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Well, with this marinade, if you're using the marinade with pork,

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what I would do is put it on,

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probably, about 15 minutes before it's ready.

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Just because if you put it on right at the beginning,

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the marinade's going to burn and the pork's not going to pick up either.

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Once it's chargrilled, I'm going to just spread

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just a little bit of this marinade on both sides.

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And then pop it in the oven for about, I don't know,

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about eight, nine minutes,

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and then rest it for about three or four minutes.

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-What's the temperature?

-200.

-About 200. Quite a hot oven. OK.

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That's going to go in there.

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Now, your career, looking at your CV, there isn't a restaurant

0:31:470:31:50

in London where you haven't worked, by the looks of things.

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-Yeah, pretty much.

-Michelin, two, three-star Michelin food.

0:31:530:31:57

Is that where your real passion lies? Or...

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Where has it sort of developed over the years?

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Well, I mean, my interest in cooking came from my mother.

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She was a fantastic cook.

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When I started cooking, my dad,

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being a businessman at the time,

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he knew and ate in all the top restaurants and I just

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asked him to give me a list

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and he gave me Harvey's, Le Gavroche,

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and La Tante Claire.

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And then I wrote off to all of them and the Gavroche wrote to me

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and said, "Yeah, you can start." And, you know,...

0:32:230:32:25

Which is, of course, Michel Roux's restaurant,

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-which we've had on the show, as well.

-Yeah.

0:32:270:32:29

-The great godfather of cookery, we call him, don't we?

-Yeah.

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And it was an amazing place to start, it really was.

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So, I'm going to pop that in a pan, a bit of olive oil, nice and hot.

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Good little tip, whenever you're browning potatoes,

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-season it after you've got the colour.

-OK.

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Because the salt is going to bring out the moisture.

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If you season it at the beginning,

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it's more likely to stick to the pan.

0:32:470:32:48

-OK. What's next?

-Herb dressing.

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So, we got some mint, some basil, some parsley.

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And then all we're going to do with that is chop it up,

0:32:540:32:57

mix it with some capers, some anchovy, some mustard,

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olive oil and lemon juice.

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And then use that as a sauce. That should be right.

0:33:030:33:06

Now, also, what you've got in here, which, looking at the ingredients,

0:33:060:33:10

the chorizo that you have got in here...

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any one you particularly look out for?

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Picante, that's kind of the spicy one, isn't it, really?

0:33:140:33:17

Yeah. It depends what you like. It's like choosing a curry.

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Do you like hot curry? Then, I would go with something a lot hotter.

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In this case, I use something a bit sweeter than that.

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Then, I've got some piquillo peppers which I'm just going to slice up.

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Now, these peppers - I've said this many, many times

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when they've been on the show - these are fantastic.

0:33:350:33:39

Spanish wood-roasted peppers.

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-They are actually roasted on embers, aren't they?

-Yeah.

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Hand skinned and hand deseeded. But I think great value for money.

0:33:430:33:47

They come in jars. Fantastic. Something to look out for.

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I suppose you could roast your own

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-but they've got a great flavour, haven't they?

-Yeah.

0:33:510:33:54

A smoky flavour which matches up really well with the chorizo

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and we're going to add some smoked paprika to that, as well.

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And because we've got this oaky kind of smoky thing going on,

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we need a light, refreshing dressing just to complement it.

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-Right.

-So, once you've got the colour,

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just throw in the chorizo into there.

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Once you add the chorizo,

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you are not going to be able to see in there because it's a black pan,

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but the oil is going to turn a lovely red colour,

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and the potatoes are going to absorb all of that lovely chorizo oil.

0:34:200:34:23

-And a great oil with that which makes great sauces, as well.

-Yeah.

0:34:230:34:27

This dressing, is this more like a little salsa verde,

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that kind of stuff, where you've got the capers?

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Capers, all the herbs, a touch of garlic.

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Bit of lemon juice and olive oil.

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Bit of lemon juice, bit of olive oil. Right.

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So, the last thing we're going to put in there, some wild garlic.

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Now, this, available during the spring months. Very short season.

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It's available for about two more weeks and, then, before you use it

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you just have to crush it up, like this, and it releases the flavours.

0:34:500:34:54

Have you ever tried wild garlic?

0:34:540:34:57

-No. Too much garlic doesn't suit me.

-Can you smell it, though?

0:34:570:35:01

-It's fantastic.

-Actually, it does smell lovely.

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You often find it when you're driving along by the side of

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the road. You wonder where it is.

0:35:080:35:10

Side of the road, a really, really strong smell of garlic.

0:35:100:35:13

It's very nice, yeah.

0:35:130:35:15

-Matt, you use it a lot, don't you? Yeah.

-All the time.

0:35:150:35:16

We've got it everywhere, at the moment.

0:35:160:35:19

Superb. Anyway, we've got the potatoes. What's next?

0:35:190:35:22

So, once the chorizo's nearly cooked I'm going to add

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a pinch of the smoked paprika.

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Yeah.

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And, then, add the piquillo peppers.

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If you can't get hold of piquillo peppers -

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you can get them in supermarkets, like you said -

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you can use normal red peppers,

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but if you're using normal red peppers,

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add it with the potato at the beginning,

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-because these piquillo peppers are already cooked.

-Yeah.

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But they've got a distinct sort of

0:35:430:35:45

smoky taste with those peppers, as well, haven't they?

0:35:450:35:47

-Yeah.

-Superb. Anchovies. Chopped up.

0:35:470:35:52

And, then, right at the end, I'm going to throw in the wild garlic

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and just treat it exactly like spinach.

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They take about 30 seconds to cook.

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Right. So, while you go and get the pork out of there...

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Delicious.

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Perfect. Lovely.

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Right.

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OK. Spoon out this mixture onto the plate.

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The colours look spectacular, I have to say.

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-Perfect for summer.

-Yeah. There's your pork.

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-Pork goes on top.

-Everything out of the way.

0:36:320:36:35

Now, I'm going to put some basil cress all over it but

0:36:350:36:37

I'm a bit worried after Pauline's comment about the herbs.

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But... Just a few bits. Not too much.

0:36:420:36:45

-Didn't you listen to what she said at the top of the show?

-I did.

0:36:450:36:48

I worried about it, as well.

0:36:480:36:50

-Just a little bit over.

-That looks amazing.

0:36:510:36:54

Tell us what that is again.

0:36:540:36:55

So, that's griddled pork chop with some chorizo,

0:36:550:36:58

wood-roasted piquillo peppers, wild garlic and a herb dressing.

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Simple as that.

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Right, follow me over, Jun.

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Dive into this. You've got to try these peppers...

0:37:100:37:13

..Wendy, because they are just superb. Dive into the peppers.

0:37:140:37:17

They've got a taste all on its own.

0:37:170:37:20

They just do the red peppers, don't they? You can only buy the red ones.

0:37:200:37:23

Dive in.

0:37:230:37:25

-These are the sweet peppers, are they?

-Yeah.

-They are.

-Yeah.

0:37:250:37:30

-What's that?

-Chorizo.

-What's that?

-Pork. Chorizo.

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Taste that.

0:37:350:37:36

I use those peppers when I make my chilli

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and I do make a very good chilli.

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Better than yours, I bet!

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I've got no doubt.

0:37:430:37:45

I can see you're writing for a national newspaper now. Go round judging your restaurants.

0:37:450:37:49

-That's very nice.

-OK. You've done it with pork there.

0:37:490:37:52

Can you do it with other meats, as well? Chicken?

0:37:520:37:55

-I suppose chicken would work very nicely.

-With the marinade?

0:37:550:37:58

Yeah. Absolutely. You could do a piece of salmon.

0:37:580:38:00

Perfect with that, as well.

0:38:000:38:01

Fish would go very well. Things like salmon, sea bass, maybe.

0:38:010:38:04

-Something like that.

-It's really versatile.

0:38:040:38:06

-Go on, then, dive in.

-That's good.

0:38:070:38:10

Go on, Matt. Matt, you're not going to get any.

0:38:100:38:13

A beautiful-looking dish

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but I was distracted by the young, dashing chef sat at the table.

0:38:190:38:22

Doesn't time fly?

0:38:220:38:23

Now, time for another helping of Keith Floyd,

0:38:230:38:26

who is demonstrating his like for pike.

0:38:260:38:28

Posing perfectly as a pike fisherman in my ultimate country kit,

0:38:310:38:34

I walk the Somerset Levels on this crisp spring morning

0:38:340:38:37

looking for my lunch,

0:38:370:38:39

which I hope will be pike cooked in a creamy red pepper sauce.

0:38:390:38:42

Sounds delicious, doesn't it?

0:38:420:38:44

Notice I scan the water like a heron,

0:38:440:38:46

for the subtle signs of a shoal of roach, and where there are roach,

0:38:460:38:50

there will be pike lying, like bandits ready to plunder.

0:38:500:38:53

Actually, I've got more chance of being struck by lightning

0:38:540:38:57

than I have of catching a pike.

0:38:570:38:59

So, rather than go hungry, I've enlisted some specialist help.

0:38:590:39:02

-There he goes.

-There he goes. This is the tense bit, isn't it?

-Yeah.

0:39:020:39:06

He can easily drop it, you see.

0:39:060:39:08

When are you going to give him the gun, as it were? You have.

0:39:080:39:11

-Look at that.

-There's a swirl. My goodness! It's a big fish, isn't it?

0:39:110:39:14

Yeah.

0:39:140:39:15

Boy, oh, boy, oh, boy.

0:39:170:39:19

You people aren't going to believe this,

0:39:210:39:23

this is not set up in any way at all, you know.

0:39:230:39:25

This is...

0:39:250:39:26

This is real. We are actually catching fish! It's unbelievable.

0:39:260:39:30

There, see his head.

0:39:320:39:33

You don't seem to be applying any...

0:39:350:39:37

You're letting him tire himself out.

0:39:370:39:40

You're not forcing him to do anything.

0:39:400:39:41

You're just putting a bit of gentle restraint on it.

0:39:410:39:44

-Is that the technique?

-Well, it does vary a little bit.

0:39:440:39:47

-You're letting him go back.

-I'm anxious to land this.

0:39:470:39:50

-It's my first pike this morning.

-Wonderful.

0:39:500:39:52

-Oh, he's quite big.

-Yes, indeed!

0:39:540:39:55

Try and make a special effort to land this one.

0:40:050:40:07

Just keep him in this little area.

0:40:100:40:12

Now, wind up. Wind up. Straight up.

0:40:120:40:15

Wow!

0:40:160:40:17

-That's 10lbs, 11lbs.

-Good God! That's the size we want.

0:40:220:40:26

-It may be more.

-Well done! Well done!

0:40:260:40:28

-That could be 12 or 14lbs.

-That's splendid, isn't it?

0:40:290:40:33

Can you see, Clive?

0:40:330:40:35

Now, this one's going to have quite dangerous teeth.

0:40:370:40:39

It is a very big handful.

0:40:390:40:40

Very nice. That's splendid.

0:40:420:40:44

This fine specimen is far too big for my lunch.

0:40:450:40:48

I haven't got the heart to kill a fish of that size.

0:40:480:40:51

Let's put it back in the water and we'll try and catch another.

0:40:510:40:54

This is my biggest pike to date, 16.5lbs.

0:40:540:40:57

We'll put him back to fight another day.

0:40:580:41:00

Mind you, our French neighbours aren't so sentimental.

0:41:090:41:12

They'd have had that beauty skinned and pounded into quenelles

0:41:120:41:14

before you could say "bon appetit".

0:41:140:41:17

And even the medieval monks wouldn't have been so compassionate,

0:41:170:41:20

for, on Fridays, they feasted on fish.

0:41:200:41:23

Refectory tables groaned with pewter platters piled high

0:41:230:41:26

with braised carp, fried perch, steamed tench,

0:41:260:41:30

stewed eels and baked pike.

0:41:300:41:32

You all thought I was a complete and utter poseur but, in fact,

0:41:330:41:36

I've actually caught one and you can't do any better than that.

0:41:360:41:38

It is quite...

0:41:380:41:40

Whoops! Let it go a bit. Right.

0:41:400:41:43

It isn't such a little fish, you know.

0:41:430:41:45

I mean, how can they say that to me on my first-ever pike

0:41:450:41:48

I've caught? And Colin's saying it's only a little one.

0:41:480:41:52

-It is a jack, isn't it?

-Similar to the first one, actually.

0:41:520:41:56

-But they are very lively.

-Yes, they are.

0:41:560:41:58

I think he's ready to come in, actually.

0:41:580:42:00

But we're... Ah! I've lost him!

0:42:010:42:04

Aha! He's gone! No! Oh, dear!

0:42:040:42:06

My absolute moment of glory is ruined.

0:42:060:42:09

I want to go home. I hate fishing. I've had enough! Cheerio!

0:42:090:42:13

I think we'll have another one!

0:42:130:42:15

Oh, heavens above, I'll just have to show you a photograph of a pike

0:42:160:42:19

at this rate, which, by the way, is on page 27 of my new cookery book.

0:42:190:42:24

-Then, I shall...

-Then, you've got to...

-He's definitely taken it.

0:42:240:42:28

He's run across to the other side.

0:42:280:42:29

I think we're about ready now.

0:42:300:42:32

Mind your head back, Michael.

0:42:320:42:34

They don't always stay on.

0:42:350:42:37

There's another one moved over there.

0:42:380:42:39

-There's another one we just disturbed.

-Yes.

0:42:390:42:41

Well, well, well. This is called playing the fish, isn't it?

0:42:440:42:47

-You've got to tire it so that you don't...

-It's only a small one.

0:42:470:42:51

A jack fish.

0:42:510:42:52

Yes. Because... What would be the biggest one you could expect to get?

0:42:550:42:59

-Well, we've had them 20lbs.

-What's this one going to be?

0:42:590:43:02

-About four or five pounds?

-This one is about four pounds.

0:43:020:43:06

Maybe four or five.

0:43:060:43:07

What a handsome-looking thing.

0:43:070:43:10

-But they're evil, aren't they, in fact?

-They can be, yes.

0:43:100:43:14

You put your hands anywhere near their mouth, they could do a lot...

0:43:140:43:17

Ah, he's possibly six.

0:43:170:43:19

-A little bit bigger than I thought he was, actually.

-Well, well, well.

0:43:190:43:23

-Grab a good hold...

-Is there a size limit that you can...?

0:43:270:43:29

Yeah, there is, yeah. 21 inches long.

0:43:290:43:32

-Nose to the tip of the tail.

-Yes.

0:43:320:43:35

-So, he's well over the...

-Oh, yes.

-..well over the limit for taking.

0:43:350:43:39

Great.

0:43:390:43:41

Thanks to Colin and Malcolm's skill,

0:43:410:43:42

we've got the lunch and the right size, too.

0:43:420:43:45

What a fine morning it's been.

0:43:450:43:47

The excitement and the fresh air have given me quite an appetite.

0:43:470:43:50

I think it's time for a spot of breakfast and

0:43:500:43:52

a glass of cider or two before I get back to the hot kitchen to cook.

0:43:520:43:56

-Are you both married, by the way?

-Yes. Yes.

0:43:560:43:58

Do you get into trouble with the wives?

0:43:580:44:00

No, I think we're both fortunate.

0:44:000:44:01

-Glad to have us out the way sometimes.

-Yes!

0:44:010:44:03

-Colin and I get out regularly in the week.

-Why?

0:44:060:44:10

I mean, there's this big secret that you're keeping from me

0:44:100:44:14

about how you can spend so much time fishing.

0:44:140:44:17

I take it you're just millionaires?

0:44:170:44:19

LAUGHTER

0:44:190:44:20

-No...

-It's the joke of the century, that.

0:44:200:44:24

-Poor as a church mouse!

-Yeah.

0:44:240:44:27

We ignore as practical...

0:44:270:44:30

We're just enthusiastic about our hobby.

0:44:300:44:34

-Other things take a back seat.

-It's not a hobby, it's a passion

0:44:340:44:37

-with you, then?

-It is.

-Very much a passion, yeah. It has to be.

0:44:370:44:41

We can't resist a nice day.

0:44:410:44:43

What is your dream?

0:44:430:44:45

You must have lots of sort of ambition in this

0:44:450:44:48

for the biggest pike, the biggest tench,

0:44:480:44:50

but it's not necessarily the biggest.

0:44:500:44:52

-You're not hunting the biggest, are you?

-No.

0:44:520:44:54

What is it that you dream of doing?

0:44:540:44:56

-It's the company, it's the environment.

-You're with nature.

0:44:560:44:59

You're competing your wits against nature.

0:44:590:45:02

I'm... They can... We've been fortunate today.

0:45:020:45:06

-I don't think you've...

-Days can be when you won't catch fish.

0:45:060:45:08

-They don't want to feed, they won't feed.

-I think you're being modest.

0:45:080:45:11

I don't think you've been fortunate today.

0:45:110:45:13

I think you've been watching the river very carefully, watching the migration,

0:45:130:45:17

if that's what roach do, the migration of the shoals.

0:45:170:45:20

You're using years and years of country lore and understanding.

0:45:200:45:25

-Aren't you?

-But even that side of it alone, they could still...

0:45:250:45:28

-They could still fox you?

-Oh, yes. They could still fox you.

0:45:280:45:31

I think that, you know, you've relived some of my most

0:45:310:45:35

important and imagined boyhood moments.

0:45:350:45:37

I told you earlier that I spent months and years

0:45:370:45:41

trying to catch a pike when I was 12, 14, 15 and so on, in this area

0:45:410:45:44

and I never did.

0:45:440:45:46

And you've brought back for me all the wonderful memories

0:45:460:45:49

that are associated with fishing,

0:45:490:45:52

farmhouse Cheddar cheese and cider and stuff.

0:45:520:45:54

For my part, at least, I'd like to say to you both,

0:45:540:45:56

thanks very much for a really wonderful day. It has been magical.

0:45:560:46:00

-Good.

-We've enjoyed it.

0:46:000:46:01

It seems a terrible thing to do to your family but I always

0:46:040:46:06

wanted my mother-in-law on one of my programmes

0:46:060:46:09

and it's taken me 25 years to catch her, actually.

0:46:090:46:12

When I was a small boy,

0:46:120:46:13

I went to Bishops Lydeard to try and catch a pike. I didn't.

0:46:130:46:16

It's taken all of this time to catch this beautiful fish,

0:46:160:46:20

which, in the Loire Valley, in France,

0:46:200:46:22

is esteemed as a gastronomic delight. A beautiful pike.

0:46:220:46:25

Brochet de quenelles. Or pike steamed with paprika sauce.

0:46:250:46:29

Things like that.

0:46:290:46:31

What do we do with it? Practically nothing.

0:46:310:46:33

Although my fine fishermen friends eat it all the time.

0:46:330:46:36

I'm going to show you how to cook this magnificent beast.

0:46:360:46:39

And one of the first things you have to do is cut him.

0:46:390:46:43

It's already been gutted.

0:46:450:46:46

We're going to take a superb fillet off here.

0:46:460:46:49

Wind the knife, hopefully, up the bone.

0:46:490:46:51

I'm sorry.

0:46:510:46:53

I have just done that completely the wrong way round.

0:46:530:46:57

You must always start filleting a fish from its head

0:46:570:47:01

and run with the flow of the fish.

0:47:010:47:03

This is, although it's on film, is actually a live programme.

0:47:030:47:07

We do borrow kitchens, we do come in, we don't take things

0:47:070:47:10

out of the oven and say this is already cooked.

0:47:100:47:12

We do it properly.

0:47:120:47:13

And in the heat and in the passion of the moment,

0:47:130:47:15

I really made a rick. I'm sorry.

0:47:150:47:18

But I'll do it properly from here on in.

0:47:180:47:19

And before I do that, I'm going to have a little slurp

0:47:190:47:22

because I'm a bit nervous today.

0:47:220:47:23

I'm hot, tired, you know. Try and do it right and you make mistakes.

0:47:230:47:27

Please excuse me.

0:47:270:47:29

Anyway, all that said, I've now got the fillet we're looking for. OK.

0:47:290:47:34

A perfect fillet cut from the flow of the fish.

0:47:340:47:37

TELEPHONE RINGS

0:47:370:47:39

And the telephone's ringing

0:47:390:47:40

and that's because we're in a real restaurant

0:47:400:47:42

where people are booking tables to come in tonight.

0:47:420:47:45

Can't help that at all.

0:47:450:47:46

The other ingredients that I'm going to use

0:47:460:47:48

are going to be red peppers, onions,

0:47:480:47:51

garlic, fennel, fresh parsley.

0:47:510:47:56

My veloute, which is a kind of a roux, really.

0:47:560:47:59

It's sort of butter, flour, and then thickened with a little water.

0:47:590:48:03

I'm going to use that to thicken my sauce,

0:48:030:48:05

which is going to be made from my fish stock here,

0:48:050:48:08

which you could have prepared by cutting off the head of the

0:48:080:48:11

pike earlier, poaching it in water, and, then, my red pepper sauce,

0:48:110:48:15

which is peppers poached in a little fish stock and liquidised.

0:48:150:48:19

I've had to do those in advance to make this a sensible lesson.

0:48:190:48:23

I'm going to finish off the source with some double cream,

0:48:230:48:26

which you all know what looks like.

0:48:260:48:28

So you don't need to come down here.

0:48:280:48:31

And supreme egg yolk at the end. OK.

0:48:310:48:34

So, now, if you'll excuse me,

0:48:340:48:35

I'm going to go over to the stove and actually start

0:48:350:48:38

the cooking process.

0:48:380:48:39

And I do want you to forgive me for doing the unforgivable,

0:48:390:48:42

which is cutting the fish the wrong way round.

0:48:420:48:44

So, there we are, I'm back at the piano,

0:48:540:48:56

which is what we gastronauts call a cooker,

0:48:560:48:58

and I'm sorry for the cock-up earlier

0:48:580:49:00

but now you get down to the serious business of turning a pike,

0:49:000:49:03

a fish which some people just throw to their cats,

0:49:030:49:05

or even throw back into the river, or generally despise,

0:49:050:49:08

into a gastronomic delight.

0:49:080:49:10

If you come back to the stove, or the piano,

0:49:100:49:13

I'll show you what we're doing.

0:49:130:49:15

As with all fish, if you're poaching them, the liquid must be still.

0:49:150:49:19

This is cooking. It's not bubbling away.

0:49:190:49:21

If the liquid is bubbling, it'll destroy the flesh of the fish,

0:49:210:49:24

but it's been on for a little while, stick your finger in,

0:49:240:49:27

it's firm, it's cooked. It's OK.

0:49:270:49:30

So, we can go over to the sauce now,

0:49:300:49:31

which is the most important thing.

0:49:310:49:34

Our little red pepper sauce.

0:49:340:49:37

Add in sort of a teaspoonful, you've got to come

0:49:370:49:40

really close here because he gets in, our director,

0:49:400:49:42

"the" director, always makes us do it again if people aren't seeing

0:49:420:49:46

what's happening. So, our veloute going in is thickening that sauce.

0:49:460:49:50

You'll noticed throughout the programmes to come

0:49:500:49:52

and ones you have seen already that sometimes we use veloutes.

0:49:520:49:55

Sometimes we'll use egg yolks to thicken sauces.

0:49:550:49:59

Today, we're going to use the veloute and enrich it with the egg yolk.

0:49:590:50:03

Then a little cream.

0:50:030:50:05

Again, the gas is low.

0:50:050:50:07

No real bubbling must take place here,

0:50:070:50:09

otherwise it's going to separate.

0:50:090:50:10

Stir it round. OK.

0:50:100:50:13

We can let that reduce a little.

0:50:130:50:15

If only one of my assistants - they've all gone away - can find me my...

0:50:150:50:20

If you heard any noises there,

0:50:200:50:21

it's just the cameramen tripping over their equipment.

0:50:210:50:23

It's a very hot, tight kitchen.

0:50:230:50:25

And it is a working situation.

0:50:250:50:28

We're going to take out our little fillet here.

0:50:280:50:30

Slip it into this elegant white plate.

0:50:300:50:32

You know, I always insist on white things

0:50:320:50:35

because fish is the star.

0:50:350:50:36

The plate is the extra. You'll hear me say that many times.

0:50:360:50:40

Taste the sauce.

0:50:400:50:41

Coming quite good.

0:50:410:50:43

Actually, it is quite nice but it needs to be reduced a little more.

0:50:430:50:46

A little grind of pepper, for seasoning purposes.

0:50:460:50:49

And, now, I've got to turn it right down

0:50:490:50:52

because we are going to add the egg yolk,

0:50:520:50:54

not for the thickening purpose but for flavouring this particular dish.

0:50:540:50:58

And that mustn't be bubbling away, otherwise you'll get

0:50:580:51:01

kind of scrambled eggs.

0:51:010:51:03

OK. So one egg yolk in, plop.

0:51:030:51:05

Come on in.

0:51:050:51:07

And then whisk like mad on a low heat.

0:51:070:51:10

Don't give it chance to congeal into lumps. You don't want scrambled egg.

0:51:100:51:15

You want a smooth sauce here. Which, I'm pleased to say, we've achieved.

0:51:150:51:19

We'll, what the French would call nappe, which is a lovely word,

0:51:190:51:23

we're going to call it "coat". Coat the fish like that.

0:51:230:51:26

And you'll see the importance of the white plate here

0:51:260:51:30

because that beautiful light pink, salmon pink, sauce...

0:51:300:51:35

..covered with a little bit of parsley...

0:51:360:51:38

And, there, my freshwater gastronauts,

0:51:400:51:43

you have what the French call brochet a la canotierre,

0:51:430:51:47

which means the pike cooked by the wife of the pike fisherman.

0:51:470:51:52

Isn't that pretty? And what a wonderful way to celebrate spring.

0:51:520:51:57

What a wonderful way to celebrate freshwater fish.

0:51:570:52:00

You could do this with perch. You could do it with trout.

0:52:000:52:03

You could do it with carp. You could do it with pike.

0:52:030:52:06

Do it with anything.

0:52:060:52:08

But there's only one thing to do.

0:52:080:52:10

One little mouthful.

0:52:110:52:13

For those of you who might be fishermen,

0:52:170:52:19

catch a pike and throw it back,

0:52:190:52:21

or feed it to your cat or say it's inedible

0:52:210:52:23

because it's full of bones and tastes earthy,

0:52:230:52:25

I have to tell you, you are quite wrong.

0:52:250:52:28

This fish is as fine, almost as fine, as a bass.

0:52:280:52:31

And that is really saying something.

0:52:310:52:33

It's a beautiful, firm-fleshed fish with this delicate sauce,

0:52:330:52:37

which I have prepared, and I almost caught the fish myself, anyway.

0:52:370:52:41

I can tell you, you can have a really fine gastronomic delight.

0:52:410:52:44

SOUNDTRACK MUSIC DROWNS OUT SPEECH

0:53:020:53:05

Yeah, OK, we take the point. Floyd can't cast for toffees.

0:53:100:53:13

Still, most people can't afford to eat salmon,

0:53:130:53:15

never mind fish for it, but lucky me, here on the River Exe, I've got

0:53:150:53:19

it all, and Derek Bowdler, unlike my producer, is a courteous man

0:53:190:53:23

who explains everything about this sport with total patience.

0:53:230:53:26

..perhaps years trying to catch a salmon,

0:53:260:53:28

and they lose it in about a minute.

0:53:280:53:30

Yesterday we were pike fishing and we actually caught pike

0:53:300:53:34

and today we've got a salmon. This is unbelievable.

0:53:340:53:37

As he comes back towards us, wind. Keep a bend in the rod and wind.

0:53:370:53:41

-My, my, this is just too exciting.

-He's dropping back.

0:53:410:53:44

Now, so that we don't have any problems with this, I want to

0:53:440:53:47

-try and get this as quickly as possible.

-Right, OK.

0:53:470:53:50

He wants to run.

0:53:500:53:52

You keep a good bend in the rod, keep the rod tip up.

0:53:520:53:55

-He's off again. Away he goes.

-He's like a train.

0:53:550:53:57

He's like an express train. Look at that.

0:53:570:53:59

You'll have to move up a little bit, cameraman. Quickly.

0:53:590:54:01

Keep the rod bent, keep the rod bent, that's right.

0:54:010:54:04

Wind. Wind... Hello. The clutch has slipped a little bit.

0:54:040:54:08

Right, that's it. There we go.

0:54:080:54:11

We're in trouble here now.

0:54:130:54:16

-Could I just take it just for a sec?

-Yes.

0:54:160:54:18

There we are. I think we'll get him back.

0:54:200:54:22

Just to get him under control again.

0:54:220:54:24

-He's a bugger, isn't he?

-He's a fighter. He's gone!

-Damn!

-Aw!

0:54:250:54:28

We did our best.

0:54:310:54:33

Well, I'll be damned.

0:54:340:54:36

Isn't that a shame?

0:54:360:54:37

-He's broken that. He's broken the lot.

-Good God.

0:54:370:54:40

-That was a big fish, too.

-Yes, it was.

0:54:400:54:43

-OK, let's have a bash at it, then.

-Right.

0:54:430:54:45

Cos this... You know, I know a lot about salmon from the eating

0:54:450:54:49

point of view but fishing and catching them is, you know,

0:54:490:54:52

where I'm entirely in your hands.

0:54:520:54:54

I haven't even ever put waders on in my life before, you know.

0:54:540:54:57

Right, so we must be careful as we wade.

0:54:570:54:58

Actually, I think we should point out that wading can be very dangerous.

0:55:010:55:04

-Yes. A quick slip and you've...

-A quick slip.

0:55:040:55:07

..and you've had it, haven't you?

0:55:070:55:10

Is this really the...? Is salmon fishing really, you know,

0:55:100:55:15

for the privileged few or is that a myth these days?

0:55:150:55:19

I think that's a myth these days.

0:55:190:55:21

I think a few years ago, yes, it was.

0:55:210:55:23

But today there is salmon fishing available almost right

0:55:230:55:28

through the Exe.

0:55:280:55:30

The Southwest Water Authority, they've got a stretch of

0:55:300:55:32

fishing down below.

0:55:320:55:34

It agonises me, the fact that

0:55:340:55:37

you don't hit the trees on the other side.

0:55:370:55:41

The essential part is to put that right across in front of his nose.

0:55:410:55:47

Yes. The splash of it won't drive the fish away?

0:55:470:55:52

No, it doesn't seem to disturb them at all.

0:55:520:55:54

I think if we get into a small pool, you must separate wading and

0:55:550:56:01

fishing because wading and fishing is two completely different

0:56:010:56:04

things and if you disturb the water too much then you're going to

0:56:040:56:07

-drive your fish.

-Yes.

0:56:070:56:08

I think that is one thing you've got to be very careful with.

0:56:080:56:11

I've had a few casts. Would you like to have a go?

0:56:150:56:18

Well, I'd rather have a go at avoiding those trees, to be

0:56:180:56:23

honest with you, because I think

0:56:230:56:24

the equipment's a bit expensive to lose, isn't it?

0:56:240:56:27

-Right, we'll try down here a little bit.

-OK.

0:56:310:56:35

Eek.

0:56:350:56:37

-Can you feel it getting deeper?

-Yes, I can.

0:56:370:56:39

I should just keep out slightly

0:56:390:56:41

because it does shove away quite deep.

0:56:410:56:43

Oops. That wasn't very good.

0:56:480:56:50

Once I'd lost that salmon - and whatever he thought, Derek

0:56:510:56:54

didn't tell me, though I heard him mutter something about

0:56:540:56:56

a turnip top, I imagine some kind of fishing expression -

0:56:560:56:59

we all knew we'd lost the golden opportunity for the day.

0:56:590:57:02

We didn't get another bite and I, like so many other fishermen

0:57:020:57:04

before me, had to resort to the fishmonger to complete the day's

0:57:040:57:08

schedule, and a cognac here in Dartmouth, purely for

0:57:080:57:10

medicinal reasons, of course, after being up to my neck in the Exe,

0:57:100:57:13

calms the nerves that are still tingling from the thrill of

0:57:130:57:16

that salmon going like a train away.

0:57:160:57:19

Great stuff. Loving your work, Keith.

0:57:230:57:25

Now, as ever on Best Bites, we're looking back at some of

0:57:250:57:28

the tastiest recipes from the Saturday Kitchen archives.

0:57:280:57:30

Still to come on today's show, Daniel Clifford and Tom Kitchin

0:57:300:57:33

attempt to move up the board in the Omelette Challenge,

0:57:330:57:37

Fernando Stovall serves up a Mexican lasagne -

0:57:370:57:39

fried tortillas, shredded chicken, chilli, cheese and tomato sauce

0:57:390:57:43

are assembled in layers to create a delicious, indulgent dish -

0:57:430:57:46

and Julia Stiles faces her food heaven or her food hell.

0:57:460:57:50

Did she get her food heaven,

0:57:500:57:51

gravlax with deep-fried egg and avocado salad,

0:57:510:57:54

or her food hell, stewed octopus with herb tabbouleh?

0:57:540:57:57

You can find out what she got at the end of the show.

0:57:570:57:59

Right, next it's Stuart Gillies,

0:57:590:58:01

who is here to show us how to nail quail.

0:58:010:58:03

JAMES: Stuart Gillies. Good to have you back on the show, boss.

0:58:030:58:06

-Thanks, James.

-And armed with two quail.

-How are you, mate?

0:58:060:58:09

-I'm very well. So this dish is...

-Quail.

0:58:090:58:11

..more or less, apart from the potatoes, cooked in real-time.

0:58:110:58:13

-And from Lancashire.

-Lancashire quail.

-Up north.

-Up north.

0:58:130:58:16

Wrong side of the Pennines but go on.

0:58:160:58:18

-Are you getting taller or is it me?

-No, I think it's the age thing.

0:58:180:58:21

You might be getting shorter, Stuart. Right, OK.

0:58:210:58:23

What do we do with the quail?

0:58:230:58:24

What we do is take the legs off the quail first. If you start that one.

0:58:240:58:28

-All right.

-So, legs straight off, like so.

0:58:280:58:31

And then what we're going to do is take the legs off,

0:58:310:58:33

char-grill this and take the breasts off as well so you haven't got all

0:58:330:58:36

that fiddly bone at the end.

0:58:360:58:38

This is what people find fiddly, don't you think?

0:58:380:58:40

I mean, literally, to eat these whole, people are thinking,

0:58:400:58:42

"Oh, I don't really want to tackle these."

0:58:420:58:44

People eat the eggs, quail eggs,

0:58:440:58:46

but they never really get offered the quails cos they're quite bony.

0:58:460:58:49

We're going to show them today how you can get them boned by your

0:58:490:58:51

butcher or carefully take the breast off the carcass yourself.

0:58:510:58:54

Simply, it's like treating it like a whole chicken, isn't it?

0:58:540:58:57

-Same sort of thing.

-Same principle.

-Cutting it for saute, really.

0:58:570:58:59

Same structure. Like that, like so.

0:58:590:59:02

You shouldn't really have to cut many bones as well,

0:59:020:59:04

-that's the key to this.

-Not really. We're going to grill these and then

0:59:040:59:07

we make a dressing from a little ketchup, some Worcester sauce,

0:59:070:59:11

tabasco, finely chopped shallots, Dijon mustard,

0:59:110:59:15

chives and a little bit of basil. Mix it all together raw

0:59:150:59:18

and put the hot food into the cold dressing and let it just sit.

0:59:180:59:21

You know what it is?

0:59:210:59:22

It's a great little picnic dish or for buffet at home.

0:59:220:59:25

We've got three kids and often

0:59:250:59:26

you serve the food and they eat instantly, so for this one,

0:59:260:59:29

you put it on the table and they just leave it there.

0:59:290:59:31

What's the French name for this?

0:59:310:59:32

-This sauce is called bois boudran.

-Right, OK.

0:59:320:59:35

It's quite classic French, it's French barbecue sauce, really.

0:59:350:59:38

-What we do, James, you start chopping the shallots for me.

-OK.

0:59:380:59:41

I'm going to season this quail, salt and pepper.

0:59:410:59:43

Just start to char-grill this.

0:59:430:59:45

This is a great barbecue thing, like we said, but the secret is

0:59:450:59:48

don't overcook it, that's the key.

0:59:480:59:50

The thing with quail, a bit like pigeon and those birds that

0:59:500:59:52

are very lean, they're too lean, they've got no fat in them,

0:59:520:59:55

-so if you cook it all the way, it becomes very dry.

-Yeah.

0:59:550:59:58

So you just leave it a little bit undercooked.

0:59:581:00:00

It's not like chicken, you won't poison yourself

1:00:001:00:02

by leaving it a little bit pink.

1:00:021:00:04

What it does, it keeps it lovely and juicy.

1:00:041:00:06

Just turn that grill up nice and high.

1:00:061:00:07

Don't you think they're more popular now, game birds?

1:00:071:00:10

They're coming back into fashion

1:00:101:00:11

-and people are starting to eat them again.

-Absolutely.

1:00:111:00:14

-People are less intimidated, I think, now.

-Yeah.

1:00:141:00:16

They're more confident that cooks know what they're doing in the UK

1:00:161:00:19

more than before as well.

1:00:191:00:21

I think stuff like pigeon is getting back on the menu more

1:00:211:00:24

-regularly and stuff like that.

-Rabbit and... Yeah.

1:00:241:00:27

Also you've got suppliers there who are making these,

1:00:271:00:29

producing these dishes now, that are fantastic.

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-The quality is so much better. So, Jersey Royal potatoes, James.

-Yeah.

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Classic Jersey Royals. These have been scrubbed lightly.

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We put these into cold water, always cold water for potatoes.

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A good sprinkle of salt and they just go on the gas like so.

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These take about 20... Wrong gas.

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These take about 15-20 minutes to cook.

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-You do all potatoes in cold water?

-Always. All potatoes in cold water.

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They just bring it up and all that impurities and scum

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comes to the top. It doesn't cook into the potato.

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Always taste the water as well to make sure it's salty.

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It is a general rule of thumb, though.

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Most veg that grows below ground, cold water.

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-Above the ground, hot water.

-Yeah.

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With this quail, you want to really caramelise this quite well, James.

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-Get lots of colour on the skin. It gives it a lot more flavour.

-Yeah.

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-So, shallots straight in there.

-Tell me about your new venture, then.

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Savoy, I keep driving past,

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seem to have been building it and building it and building it.

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-Yeah.

-Eventually got ready.

-They haven't been building it,

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they've been redoing it for about two-and-a-half years now.

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It's been a long project, that's for sure.

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-It finally opens, reopens this September, October.

-Yeah.

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After two-and-a-half years, you can give them a month's grace.

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-You can do.

-Huge project, they've redone the whole building.

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What we are going to do is a grill, grill restaurant.

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I take it back to a proper, old, classic grill.

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You know, lots of theatre at the table, lots of carving at the table.

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-I mean, this is serious history. This is where Escoffier cooked.

-Yeah.

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Exactly.

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So you've kind of got to keep that tradition, haven't you, really?

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A lot of it started there and I think also you've got...

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If there's a room anywhere that you want to have theatre and show

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and be wowed by technique and talent, it's the Savoy Grill.

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You don't just go there for a bit of cheese on toast.

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You go there for a proper dining-out experience.

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You can, but it'd probably cost you 35 quid.

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I'll do cheese on toast.

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You know what I mean?

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If they want it, I'll do it.

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You made this dressing and nobody's actually seen.

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What have you got in there? What's in there now?

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It's a secret, I don't want to give it away, actually.

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We've got the chopped shallots in there.

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You've got the ketchup, tomato ketchup,

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good proper "a brand" tomato ketchup.

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OK. Tabasco. A bit of Dijon mustard there. Goes in like so.

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People watching the show will think, "Tomato ketchup?"

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-Three-Michelin-star restaurants use ketchup.

-Absolutely.

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It's a great seasoning. It's not a cheat. It's not something bad.

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It's a seasoning and brings out all the other flavours.

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-A bit of olive oil in there, James, as well, please.

-OK.

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A bit of Worcestershire sauce as well.

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That quail, you see the colour's nice. Just turn that over like so.

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The only bones you've really got in this quail now is the little

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thigh bones in the tops of the legs which are quite easy anyway

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to pull out so there's nothing going to stick in your throat.

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Jersey Royals, James. They've been cooking over here.

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Right, so drain the potatoes off.

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Drain the potatoes, and this is a potato salad that doesn't

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contain mayonnaise or cream or anything.

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It's a real Italian dish we used to do for staff when I worked in Italy.

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You put the dressing on, which is lemon zest, lemon juice, olive oil.

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-Yeah.

-Basil and black pepper.

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And then you just leave it to cool down, and as they cool down

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they suck up all that lovely flavour.

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So you want me to grate some lemon on there as well.

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I'm going to grate a bit of zest in there for you.

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Quail is just about done there, James.

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You see a nice colour on there.

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Straight in that... Straight into the bowl of dressing.

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As this quail cools, it just releases a bit of the liquid,

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it rests and, same as the potatoes, just starts to soak up the marinade.

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So it's actually better eaten at room temperature.

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You want a bit of lemon juice in there as well?

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Juice of half a lemon, James, and all that zest in there.

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Black pepper's in and a good slug of olive oil.

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There you go.

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This is great summer food.

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Do it beforehand, don't put it in the fridge but put it in a dish

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and just leave it on the table. Then you can get on with, you know,

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doing your canapes or drinking champagne, whatever you do.

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Or divorce parties, I don't know what you do.

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Dry-clean the net curtains, cos the amount of smoke coming out of this,

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it'll ruin your kitchen, but there you go.

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-Caramelisation.

-Caramelisation, yeah.

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-We got some basil, lemon...

-Yeah.

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-Lemon zest in there.

-Then all we do, we just stack this up.

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It's a lovely coating

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and that shallot gives it a really nice crunch as well.

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Legs go on like so.

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And you kind of want at least one per portion, don't you?

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It's a bit tight with that. You want probably two, do you?

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-Well, we've got two quails in here.

-Yeah.

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Yeah, I mean, in London you probably have one each.

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Up north, you probably have a couple, two or three.

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A dozen probably.

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Look at that.

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They are small, quail,

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but you have it as part of a nice mix of other things.

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But they're lovely and juicy, quails, and tender. That's it.

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-Goes like so.

-Nice to eat with your fingers as well.

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And, yeah, just pull the meat off. Exactly that. Just so tender.

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Thank you, James.

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Right, on goes your potato, like so.

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Like you said, they're great warm, you could have those for a barbecue.

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Yeah, you know what?

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Just to finish, a nice little finish, some of these celery leaves.

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I love the tops of celery. They're just great.

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You get these leaves often people throw away but actually, they don't

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taste bitter, they taste fantastic.

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-Just sprinkle those on like so.

-So remind us what that is again.

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We've got the grilled quail with sauce bois boudran

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and the Jersey Royal lemon potato salad.

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Coming to the Savoy in October, possibly, maybe November.

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In a silver dish.

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There you go. In a silver dish, like you said.

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Craig, I don't know how you feel about quail at quarter past...

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Sorry, what is it, 9:45?

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Usually at 6:30 in the morning to set the day off right.

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Dive into that. Tell us what you think.

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But if people don't want quail, you could use chicken.

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Chicken, salmon, prawns. Even for vegetarians, broccoli.

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Stuff like that. It works.

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Still keep the dressing.

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It's got a really spicy, lovely sharp dressing.

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Mm. Mm!

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-Like that?

-You done good. Done good. You keep it up.

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LAUGHTER

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Dive into that. Like you say, chicken you could use.

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Something that you would have a go at?

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-It's pretty straightforward, isn't it?

-You know what?

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The presentation and the way you've actually cooked it,

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it probably tastes a lot better than me making it but I loved eating it.

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-It tastes incredible.

-Just letting it cool is the main thing.

-Yeah.

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-I suppose you can eat that cold as well.

-Yeah, eat it cold as well.

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Good tip, that. Veg that grows below, cook from cold. There you go.

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And on a side note, Craig David was rather smartly dressed, wasn't he?

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Now time for the Omelette Challenge and today Tom Kitchin is battling

1:06:521:06:55

it out against Daniel Clifford and the studio is beautifully

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decorated for the Queen's Jubilee.

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Pretty good times on our board by these two guys.

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One in the blue zone, which is Daniel over here.

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You're a little way down, Tom, over there. Usual rules apply.

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Let's put the clocks on the screens, please.

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Three-egg omelette as fast as you can. Ready? Three, two, one, go.

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Two different methods.

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LAUGHTER

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GONG

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GONG

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-Well done, Chef.

-Don't be moody just cos you lost.

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I did get properly beat.

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The best part of all this is the way the chefs stand back and go,

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"Get in there. Get in there."

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This...

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-I kind of need a straw with that, don't I, Tom?

-Yeah.

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-You've got to come back again.

-Yeah.

-There you go. Right, Daniel.

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I don't think I've beaten it.

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If I've beaten it, I'll be very surprised.

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-You did it...

-Please.

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-What was your time? 18.40?

-Yeah.

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Four seconds off. 22.40,

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so slower. Both pretty useless, to be honest.

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Now, you wouldn't think it watching it but Tom is actually currently

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in the top ten on our board.

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Up next, Fernando Stovall with a Mexican take on an Italian classic.

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Great to have you on the show.

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Armed with a bottle of... I don't know what it is.

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This is called mescal. It's the godfather of tequila.

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-It's tequila.

-It is the godfather of tequila.

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A little bit different, little bit smoky in flavour.

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It's a bit early to be drinking that stuff.

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-That will go in the sauce later.

-Right.

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Right now, can we start preparing the courgettes?

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Basically what this is is lots of different layers.

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Layers of courgettes, layers of one particular chilli

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which is called poblano chilli.

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It originates from Puebla, south of Mexico City.

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It's very mild, it's not very, very strong.

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You can actually use these chillies.

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Is it like a padron chilli?

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Very similar to padron, very, very similar.

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And twice a year you can actually

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get them incredibly, incredibly spicy.

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Now these chillies, a lot of people think chillies in general,

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the seeds are the spicy part of it.

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It's actually the veins, the white veins that come across it.

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-You've just got to remove all the top part of it.

-Yeah.

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So we'll do different layers of different ingredients

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for the dish and it will be very, very tasty.

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OK, now we've got some courgette here

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which I'll prepare for you as well.

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Two different types of courgettes. We've got the ones with the flowers.

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-Yeah.

-Baby courgettes.

-And then we've got obviously the larger ones.

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Just to bulk it up, really. Just to get really nice caramelisation.

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You mentioned this is like a little lasagne, earlier.

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It is, like a Mexican lasagne. The reason I gave three different names,

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the first one is quesada, that's the way my mother used to call it.

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Mum used to make these.

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She used to ask, "What do you want for your birthday?"

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And I always used to say quesada, which is my absolute favourite.

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So you start this. I used to have sausage and beans.

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The second name is pastel azteca,

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which the translation is the Aztec cake,

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but the only difference with a pastel azteca is

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it's got corn kernels, and that's the addition that you put on the dish.

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OK. Now, you're going to use the flowers in two ways, really.

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One of them will be tempura, the other one will be raw and it

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will just be put as an addition to the layers of the actual lasagne.

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I don't know why, cos in France you can get these all over the place,

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but for some reason, probably the reason why you don't like them,

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you can't find them really

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-and supermarkets tend not to sell these.

-Yes, with flowers.

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-But in France you have them all over the place.

-All over the place.

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-Every garden.

-Every garden, yeah.

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If you grow them yourself, they're just delicious.

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So, right, what have we got here? You've got the peppers done?

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Yeah, we're just going to fry the peppers.

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-Caramelise them really nicely.

-Yeah.

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-And then the second thing will be the courgettes.

-There you go.

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-Courgettes going in the pan.

-Yeah.

-OK.

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Right, the next step would be... Actually I always, every time

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you invite me to the show,

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I bring my little molcajete pestle and mortar.

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-Your what?

-Molcajete, it's called.

-Molca tettle?

-Molcajete.

-Molcajete.

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-That's very good.

-In a Yorkshire accent. Mexican Yorkshire accent.

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The molcajete is made out of lava stone so you can actually cook it on

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the raw flame which is naked flame, which is really, really good.

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-So you can heat it up as well over a gas flame?

-Exactly.

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But there's two different types of pestle and mortar

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so be very careful. If you've got the ceramic ones,

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obviously don't put them on a naked flame

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because it'll probably explode.

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What I'm doing right now is...

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-Do you want the other courgettes in there?

-Lovely, thank you.

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What I'm doing right now is just making

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a little paste of the garlic and another type of chilli that I

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love putting on this dish, which is called chipotle,

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which is smoked chilli.

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Both chillies together,

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they complement each other really, really good.

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So your peppers that you're using, the padron peppers, what is it,

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-one every ten that's hot? Is that the kind of...?

-Not really.

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It varies in seasonality as well.

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The reason that they get really, really hot is because of the sun

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and that actually provokes them to get really, really spicy.

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Right.

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-OK.

-So basically I'm forming a little paste in here.

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We're actually shallow-frying the tortillas.

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In here we're actually deep-frying.

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-Ideally shallow-fry would probably be much better.

-That's that done.

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-The sauce, which we're going to get on now.

-Yeah.

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I've got one done previously because the sauce would take

1:12:461:12:49

-a little bit of time to actually get it done.

-Yeah.

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-So basically I put a little bit more of the paste.

-OK.

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-We need to chop some shallots, some onions.

-I can do that.

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Thank you. And then just put that together.

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-So this is for tomato sauce that's going to be the base of it.

-Correct.

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-OK.

-Correct.

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Just pick a little bit of green because this is going to be

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-the end garnish part.

-So is this a variant of a classic dish, then?

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Well, like I said, pastel azteca, which is the one that

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has the corn kernels, but this is my mother's recipe, really.

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Cos I must be the only person

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who's been to Mexico but never saw any of it.

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I used to have a restaurant on a cruise ship and they dropped

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me off in Mexico and I missed the flight so the next flight was

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about a seven-, eight-hour drive away

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and they told me to get in a taxi and I literally...

1:13:351:13:38

The taxi cab was an eight-hour drive and I fell asleep...

1:13:381:13:42

That's a shame.

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..with my head and hand out the window and I woke up

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and half my body was that colour.

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LAUGHTER

1:13:491:13:51

-Nice and hot.

-It was proper hot.

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-I checked in, literally, half my face is red.

-Yeah.

-Unbelievable.

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It's a shame, because Mexico is a lovely, lovely country.

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I need to go back, cos I didn't see any of it.

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Mexican food is very similar to French food. It's very regional.

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You get food from different regions

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and you get really, really good stuff.

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Right, this is the paste that we've got in there as well.

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So you shred all that and this is where this beautiful...

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The version of tequila which is really, really nice.

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But a little touch because we want a little bit of the smokiness.

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Just burn it down a little bit.

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See, this brings back memories.

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If Chris, my friend, is watching this as well, this is also my

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second Mexican experience, where I had to drink a flaming tequila.

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-Is that right?

-Yeah. Mescal. This is mescal.

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I swallowed it, spat it out and set my mate's jacket on fire.

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It's a lovely, lovely drink.

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So basically just put your tomatoes, just fresh tomato juice, in there.

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So we cook that for how long?

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For a good 20 minutes and then just put

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a little bit of a gastrique,

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which is a little mix of vinegar and sugar

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just to counteract a little bit the acidity from the tomato juice.

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-Well, now we've got one already done.

-Cornflour.

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I've already got it.

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You got it? OK.

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We're pretty much ready to start building the dish up.

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Right. So, there's not really such thing as order

1:15:131:15:16

on how to pile them up, lasagne.

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We usually put the mince first, then the sauce, then the pasta,

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then the bechamel.

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But in here, I like to do it...

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There's no really such thing as order.

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So you just put, base, a little bit of tomato.

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Get your pulled chicken next.

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Pan-fried courgettes, nicely caramelised.

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Did you actually season them?

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-No.

-Oh.

1:15:411:15:43

-Oh!

-Sorry.

-Oh!

-LAUGHTER

1:15:431:15:46

-What about these?

-Schoolboy error, that.

1:15:461:15:48

-I would've seasoned them, myself.

-It's seasoned now.

-Thank you, Chef.

1:15:511:15:55

Thank you. We've got some poblano chillies.

1:15:551:15:57

-Right. Cheese.

-Cheese, we can put it... It's your call.

1:15:571:16:01

Now, this is not a Mexican cheese.

1:16:011:16:04

No, this is... Well, Americans call

1:16:041:16:06

-it Monterey Jack, I call it Cheddar.

-Cheddar.

1:16:061:16:09

That's it.

1:16:091:16:10

What's the most famous Mexican cheese? Is it...?

1:16:101:16:12

I like... Well, there's so many beautiful cheeses,

1:16:121:16:15

but I really like Oaxaca, which is very similar to...

1:16:151:16:18

very, very similar to good mozzarella.

1:16:181:16:21

Very stringy, melts really well, you can put them on quesadillas.

1:16:211:16:24

-Oaxaca.

-Oaxaca. Correct.

-Oaxa-ga.

1:16:241:16:26

It's O-A-X-A-C-A, Oaxaca.

1:16:261:16:29

All right, OK.

1:16:291:16:31

-Getting there.

-Right.

-Right.

1:16:311:16:32

So we just continue piling everything up.

1:16:321:16:35

-You've got the seasoned courgettes.

-I just need a spoon.

1:16:371:16:40

And we're almost there.

1:16:401:16:42

OK. So these peppers, you just take the seeds out of these ones.

1:16:421:16:46

-Correct, yup. Yup. And the veins as well.

-OK.

1:16:461:16:48

A little bit of cream, and this is the equivalent of, like,

1:16:481:16:50

a bechamel, but obviously it's just with sour cream,

1:16:501:16:53

which is very, very nice, heavy double cream.

1:16:531:16:56

A little bit of cheese on top.

1:16:561:16:57

Some more tortillas.

1:16:591:17:00

We're just going to do two layers this time.

1:17:011:17:03

Now, I know you're a fan, Bruno, of this style of food,

1:17:031:17:05

the Mexican food, as well.

1:17:051:17:07

-So much flavour going in here.

-Yeah, I particularly like the chillies.

1:17:071:17:10

I think the variety of chillies are amazing and there are

1:17:101:17:12

a lot of different layers of flavours, which is great, I think.

1:17:121:17:16

Let's put some more chillies.

1:17:161:17:18

It's had a real resurgence, Mexican food,

1:17:181:17:21

in the last couple of years, I think, in this country.

1:17:211:17:23

-Absolutely.

-Loads of Mexican places opening all over the place.

1:17:231:17:26

I'm working in Manchester at the moment and it's not just a London

1:17:261:17:29

-thing, it's kind of everywhere.

-Yeah.

-It was never really

1:17:291:17:32

a thing when I was growing up.

1:17:321:17:34

-Have you enjoyed the...?

-Yeah, yeah, I love it. Yeah.

1:17:341:17:36

I'm not very good with spice, though, so...I'm a bit nervous

1:17:361:17:39

-about this, but we'll have a go.

-I understand there's going to be

1:17:391:17:41

a big campaign next year between Mexico and the US...

1:17:411:17:44

Er, the UK, I'm sorry.

1:17:441:17:46

-That sounds very exciting, the project.

-Right.

1:17:461:17:48

So, in with just the flowers, I'm deep-frying the other ones but

1:17:481:17:51

-these just got in as well.

-Correct. Correct.

1:17:511:17:53

Just a little bit raw. Cos you put that in the oven and it will

1:17:531:17:56

continue cooking a little bit more.

1:17:561:17:58

-And then cream, or is it sour cream?

-Yeah, it's layers of cream.

1:17:581:18:01

-Or sour cream, one or the other one.

-OK.

1:18:011:18:03

I personally prefer double cream, but it is up to your tastes,

1:18:031:18:07

-so just a little bit more cream on top.

-OK.

1:18:071:18:10

It does look a little bit messy. When it comes out from the oven,

1:18:101:18:13

it looks great.

1:18:131:18:15

A little bit heavy cheese on top.

1:18:151:18:17

-There you are. Right, in the oven?

-Yup, in the oven.

1:18:201:18:23

-OK, I'll put that in.

-Lovely.

-So how long does this go in for?

1:18:231:18:26

A good 25 minutes.

1:18:261:18:28

Just keep an eye on the colouration on the top of your dish.

1:18:281:18:31

25 minutes, yup. We've got one in here. Whoa, look at this.

1:18:311:18:34

Hey, that would give these Italian guys a run for their money,

1:18:381:18:40

-look at that.

-That looks really nice.

-Looks fantastic.

1:18:401:18:43

And then you've got these... These have been seasoned this time.

1:18:431:18:46

-LAUGHTER

-Oh, good. Good.

-Seasoned, yeah.

1:18:461:18:48

Just to garnish it, a little bit of coriander on the top.

1:18:481:18:51

-You want me to just scoop that bit there?

-Big scoop on the side.

1:18:511:18:54

Yup.

1:18:541:18:55

-So, I'll let you put your...

-Perfect.

1:18:561:18:58

..flowers on the side as well.

1:18:581:19:01

-There you go.

-And some courgette.

1:19:011:19:03

So tell us what that is again.

1:19:031:19:04

This is called quesada, Mexican lasagne.

1:19:041:19:07

-That's what it is. Put it there so people can see.

-Lovely.

1:19:071:19:10

Check that out.

1:19:101:19:12

-Looks delicious. Do you want to bring that over or...?

-Sure.

1:19:171:19:19

-Yeah, here's a cloth.

-Lovely.

1:19:191:19:21

There you go. You get to dive into this one.

1:19:221:19:25

-It will be very hot.

-Spicy or oven?

1:19:251:19:27

-Well, hot. Just oven hot, I think, more than anything else.

-OK.

1:19:271:19:30

-Stick it on there.

-After you.

1:19:301:19:32

That's one of the great things.

1:19:331:19:35

I mean, leftover bits of chicken, as well, you could do lamb,

1:19:351:19:37

any different meat, as well, just layer it all up.

1:19:371:19:39

As soon as the show is over, maybe go to the shop, just do the

1:19:391:19:41

shopping, leave it in the oven, come back tonight and have it.

1:19:411:19:44

That's very good.

1:19:471:19:48

-Very hot as well.

-Very hot.

-Very hot.

1:19:481:19:50

Ralf Little seemed to like that a lot.

1:19:551:19:58

Now, when Julia Stiles came to the studio to face her food heaven

1:19:581:20:01

or food hell, her heart was set on salmon but found octopus offensive.

1:20:011:20:05

So let's find out what she got.

1:20:051:20:07

Food heaven could be, of course, a wonderful piece of salmon,

1:20:071:20:10

and I know you like avocado.

1:20:101:20:11

-It could be with a deep-fried soft-boiled egg.

-Mmm.

1:20:111:20:14

-Alternatively, food hell...

-Live.

-Yeah, live. Alternatively, food hell

1:20:141:20:17

could be this lovely piece of octopus.

1:20:171:20:19

Look at that. SHE GROANS

1:20:191:20:21

Lovely. Stewed with tomatoes and red wine.

1:20:211:20:24

What do you think these lot have decided?

1:20:241:20:26

Er, I'm hoping for the salmon, obviously.

1:20:261:20:29

-I think we're pretty much unanimous on the salmon.

-7-0.

1:20:291:20:32

It was a no-brainer. So we'll lose that out the way.

1:20:321:20:35

First off, I'm going to take my egg and then we're going to basically

1:20:351:20:38

get that on to cook, because we need to get these on,

1:20:381:20:40

so we're going to soft-boil these, so these need to go into the

1:20:401:20:43

boiling water, salted boiling water,

1:20:431:20:46

for five minutes exactly.

1:20:461:20:47

So they're going to get soft-boiled.

1:20:471:20:50

So, a little bit of salt in there.

1:20:501:20:52

There we go. Some vinegar.

1:20:521:20:53

The vinegar stops the white from breaking, ideally.

1:20:531:20:56

And then I've got my salmon here. Now, we're going to marinade that.

1:20:561:21:00

If you can do me some croutons, that'd be good.

1:21:001:21:02

A nice little avocado, goat's cheese, crouton-y sort of salad.

1:21:021:21:05

Very, very small little salad.

1:21:051:21:07

Gravlax. Very simple to make.

1:21:071:21:09

It's salt, sugar and vanilla.

1:21:091:21:12

-Vanilla?

-Yup. So salt, we go in first. This is flaked sea salt.

1:21:121:21:17

Sugar.

1:21:171:21:19

And we've got some vanilla, which... I'm basically just going to chop

1:21:191:21:22

this up, so we just take some fresh vanilla.

1:21:221:21:24

Now, vanilla goes really well with this, but whisky also.

1:21:241:21:27

Yeah, no, whisky's a natural affinity with salmon.

1:21:271:21:29

I'm not saying that cos it's another alcohol.

1:21:291:21:31

-You and the booze, I swear.

-LAUGHTER

1:21:311:21:34

We're just going to blend that, and we blend this to a paste,

1:21:341:21:37

so the vanilla all starts to blend up.

1:21:371:21:39

I love the idea of the vanilla with this.

1:21:391:21:41

-Yeah.

-Vanilla works really well, I think.

1:21:411:21:43

Yeah. And then what we're going to do is grab our tray...

1:21:431:21:46

Here we go.

1:21:461:21:47

Bit of clingfilm.

1:21:471:21:48

On our tray.

1:21:481:21:50

Like that.

1:21:501:21:52

Doesn't it take a while to cure?

1:21:521:21:54

-It takes 24 hours to cure. Ideally.

-So we're going to fast-forward.

1:21:541:21:58

-CHUCKLING

-Right.

-That's the idea.

1:21:581:22:00

Here's one I did earlier.

1:22:001:22:01

So we take our salmon and our salt like that and we take...

1:22:011:22:05

this piece of wonderful salmon, there we go.

1:22:051:22:08

You can get salmon trout, I know, that we had on last week,

1:22:081:22:11

which is wonderful stuff.

1:22:111:22:13

Take that. There you go. So you place all the salt over there,

1:22:131:22:16

so it's going to cure nicely.

1:22:161:22:18

And then another piece of clingfilm over the top.

1:22:181:22:21

There we go. We've got our croutons frying away,

1:22:231:22:26

our eggs are cooking nicely.

1:22:261:22:29

And then this needs to go in the fridge. It needs to go in...

1:22:291:22:32

I'll put that octopus in there as well.

1:22:321:22:34

This needs to go in the fridge for 24 hours or ideally

1:22:341:22:37

overnight, ideally. So that can go in there. In fact, I shan't put

1:22:371:22:40

the octopus in the fridge.

1:22:401:22:41

I'm going to give this to Lofty. Lofty's a cameraman.

1:22:411:22:43

He's on camera one. GIGGLING

1:22:431:22:44

Lofty. There you go. This is you.

1:22:441:22:48

Come here. That's for you, Mr Lofty.

1:22:481:22:51

It's mainly because he's the only person I know that still

1:22:511:22:54

cooks on a pressure cooker,

1:22:541:22:57

that he got off his gran for his 18th birthday in 1926.

1:22:571:22:59

But Lofty can then cook that octopus and...

1:23:011:23:03

Right, our nice little bit of salmon here.

1:23:051:23:07

So we're just going to break that open. Here we go.

1:23:071:23:10

And you see the texture of this change. Julia, look.

1:23:111:23:16

-Whoa!

-It's brilliant.

-See the texture of it change?

1:23:161:23:18

-And we just... basically rub that off.

-Cured.

1:23:181:23:22

-Sorry, you nearly had it on your dress, then.

-thanks.

1:23:221:23:24

Thanks for that. Straight in there.

1:23:241:23:26

Straight in the water.

1:23:261:23:28

-I got your memo about the lilac colour, by the way.

-Did you?

1:23:281:23:31

Thank you very much. Thank you very much for that. Yeah.

1:23:311:23:34

-Where have you put my tray?

-Oh, you want it back?

1:23:341:23:37

LAUGHTER

1:23:371:23:39

-Right.

-Wasn't deliberate.

1:23:391:23:41

-Croutons.

-And then we grab our mustard.

-There you go.

1:23:411:23:44

Yeah, you got my memo and thank you very much for my toy.

1:23:451:23:48

While we were off air, look.

1:23:481:23:50

It's a Dexter bobblehead.

1:23:501:23:52

-Oh!

-What do you call them here?

-A wobble head, yeah.

1:23:521:23:55

-"Wobble head."

-You're the first guest in five years

1:23:551:23:57

-I've been on that has actually brought me something.

-Oh.

1:23:571:24:00

-So thank you very much.

-You're welcome.

-Does that help?

1:24:001:24:02

Does that make you happy?

1:24:021:24:04

Yeah, just saying it for everybody else that comes on, please.

1:24:041:24:07

I quite like Bentleys. They're quite nice.

1:24:071:24:10

But I'll accept a bobblehead. There you go.

1:24:101:24:13

Right, so we've just brushed this with mustard over the top.

1:24:131:24:16

So we grab our dill over the top and then ideally we want to wrap this...

1:24:161:24:20

..in clingfilm, and I don't know how long our egg's gone.

1:24:221:24:25

How long have our eggs had?

1:24:251:24:27

Ooh. I wasn't timing.

1:24:271:24:29

-I've been told, my magic person in my ear, four minutes.

-Four minutes.

1:24:291:24:32

Wrap that in clingfilm, pop that back in the fridge.

1:24:321:24:34

And it wants to go in again overnight, so if you're basically

1:24:341:24:36

going to make this, it'll be ready three weeks on Thursday.

1:24:361:24:39

Basically. But the whole idea of gravlax is a couple of days,

1:24:391:24:43

that's what you want. So we'll lose this out the way.

1:24:431:24:45

Flour, egg and breadcrumbs on the go, please, guys.

1:24:451:24:48

-Not ready with our eggs yet.

-OK.

1:24:481:24:50

I'll just get my gravlax.

1:24:501:24:52

You'll like this egg bit.

1:24:521:24:53

There you go.

1:24:541:24:56

-Is this something you would ever attempt at home?

-Yeah.

1:24:571:25:00

-Yeah.

-Really?

1:25:001:25:01

-I would.

-You'd give it a go?

1:25:011:25:04

That's my jam over there, the green stuff.

1:25:041:25:06

What's that? That's my jam over there, the green stuff.

1:25:061:25:08

Oh, the green stuff. Your jam?

1:25:081:25:10

-My jam.

-What does that mean?

1:25:101:25:12

My cup of tea.

1:25:121:25:14

-Oh, right, I've got it.

-Get with it, man!

1:25:141:25:17

Sorry, dude. Dude!

1:25:171:25:19

Of course, cos, yeah, you did

1:25:191:25:21

that, cos when you were doing that programme, that film about

1:25:211:25:24

the dancing, where you played

1:25:241:25:26

a ballerina and that kind of stuff, you went on to do hip-hop.

1:25:261:25:28

That same year I was doing Strictly,

1:25:281:25:31

-which you call Dancing With The Stars, is it?

-Oh. Oh, really?

1:25:311:25:35

-Yeah, yeah. You sound surprised.

-Yeah!

1:25:351:25:37

LAUGHTER

1:25:371:25:38

I am.

1:25:381:25:40

-Not as surprised as I was.

-How did you do? How did you do?

1:25:401:25:42

I got through to the semifinal.

1:25:421:25:44

-Good for you.

-Yeah.

1:25:441:25:47

And he lost a lot of weight.

1:25:471:25:48

-He was like a stick insect.

-Yeah, I tell ya.

1:25:481:25:50

-Tom's a hip-hop artist. Aren't you, Tom?

-Yeah, yeah...

1:25:501:25:53

TOM CHUCKLES Show her a few moves, Tom, go on.

1:25:531:25:56

Go on. Tom can spin on his head, he can do all that sort of stuff.

1:25:561:25:59

-Yeah, break dancing is my thing.

-Yeah, exactly.

1:25:591:26:01

-Right, we're going to peel our egg in it.

-Oh!

1:26:011:26:05

So the idea of this, Julia, you peel this.

1:26:051:26:08

Now, the secret is don't break the white.

1:26:081:26:10

-Right.

-All right? So you've got to really...

1:26:101:26:13

What did the vinegar do again for the whites?

1:26:131:26:15

-Sorry?

-What did the vinegar do for the whites?

1:26:151:26:17

If it breaks, it stops it from cracking.

1:26:171:26:21

-It's a protein called albumin and it helps it to coagulate.

-Wow.

1:26:211:26:25

It's like a science project here.

1:26:251:26:27

-I just made that up.

-Yeah, OK.

1:26:291:26:31

I'm gullible. It's fine.

1:26:311:26:32

Flour, egg and breadcrumbs... Take the whole lot, in there.

1:26:321:26:36

Deep-fat fry.

1:26:361:26:37

For 20 seconds. All right?

1:26:381:26:39

All right, how we doing? Can you get a...? Lose that, please, boys?

1:26:391:26:43

And then we'll just get our salad ready. So this is your gravlax,

1:26:431:26:47

which we can then slice...

1:26:471:26:50

Salmon ready, guys.

1:26:501:26:51

Salad ready. Can you put it on the plate for me, please?

1:26:511:26:54

Salad's ready. Yes, Chef.

1:26:541:26:55

Do all your Michelin-star little pile.

1:26:551:26:58

TOM CHUCKLES That kind of sort of stuff.

1:26:581:27:01

We've got our gravlax. Easy now, Tom, easy.

1:27:011:27:03

-Yes, Chef.

-Just remember who you're cooking this for.

-Yes, Chef.

1:27:031:27:06

Look at that, that's pretty good. Right, our egg. You ready?

1:27:081:27:11

Egg's good.

1:27:111:27:12

-Egg's very good.

-OK.

1:27:121:27:16

Deep-fried soft-boiled egg.

1:27:161:27:19

And then we take this.

1:27:191:27:21

Careful with the flame.

1:27:211:27:22

SHE LAUGHS Slice it through.

1:27:221:27:25

Have you got a spoon there?

1:27:261:27:27

Er...

1:27:271:27:29

-I'm so in the way.

-You're good!

1:27:291:27:32

Look at that, and you've got a soft-boiled...

1:27:321:27:34

on there.

1:27:341:27:35

-On top of there.

-Wow. OK.

-We've got ten seconds

1:27:381:27:41

towards the end of the show.

1:27:411:27:43

-Don't rush me!

-And don't forget, Friday 17th of June,

1:27:431:27:45

FX channel, ten o'clock,

1:27:451:27:48

Dexter. Brilliant.

1:27:481:27:49

-Yeah.

-THEY LAUGH

1:27:501:27:53

Great to see our cameraman Lofty there. And look, he's still here.

1:27:571:28:00

Well, I'm afraid that's it for this week's Best Bites.

1:28:031:28:06

I hope you've enjoyed taking a look back at some of the delicious

1:28:061:28:08

recipes that we've hand-picked for you today.

1:28:081:28:11

Thanks for watching and I'll see you next week.

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