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-Good morning.

-I'm Tony Singh.

-And I'm Cyrus Todiwala.

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-We are the Spice Men, and this morning...

-is Saturday...

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BOTH: Kitchen.

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There's loads of great recipes lined up for you today.

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And we've got two wonderful chefs in the studio with us today -

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Dan Doherty, the man with the restaurant in the sky,

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the Duck And Waffle.

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And Selin Kiazim, whose London Restaurant, Oklava,

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is wowing the capital with the wonders of Turkish food.

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BOTH: Good morning!

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-So, Dan, you're up first today.

-I am.

-What are you doing for us?

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I'm making a Scotch Bhaji. A Scotch egg/bhaji hybrid.

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-Bhaji?

-But I'm going to say it the right way.

-Bhaji? What's bhaji?

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-It's a bhajia.

-Bhajia.

-Scottish?

-Yeah.

-Scottish bhaji?

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Is that like a haggis?

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-Yeah, yeah. What do you think?

-I don't know.

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India invented everything. Tell us exactly what you're going to do.

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So it's a traditional Scotch egg, but we spice the meat a little bit.

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We wrap that round the soft-boiled egg, and then, rather than paneer,

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we dunk it in a bhajia mix, and we fry it all together...

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And what's it served with?

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With a spicy fresh lime yoghurt, that just gets drizzled over.

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Fantastic. That sounds great.

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And Selin, have you brought anything spicy with you?

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Yes, I have. I'm going to be doing my take on a Istanbul street food,

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called balik ekmek,

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which is a mackerel sandwich, but I'm going to be doing it with

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croutons instead, and put some spices on the mackerel.

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Some cumin and a bit of pul biber,

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which is a Turkish chilli flake.

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That sounds good,

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and there's more easy, tasty recipes to look forward to from

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Rick Stein, Brian Turner, Ching-He Huang, and James Martin,

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in our films from the BBC archive.

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Our special guest today has quite an acting pedigree,

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with starring roles on the West End stage, as well as big TV series

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such as Outnumbered, Bodies, and The Bletchley Circle.

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The big screen is beckoning now,

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with appearances alongside Ian McKellen in Mr Holmes,

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and the new Disney version of Beauty And The Beast.

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Welcome to Saturday Kitchen, Hattie Morahan.

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-Hello. How are you? Hello.

-How are you?

-Good to meet you.

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-So, you're in a new BBC series, starting quite soon.

-Yes.

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But we'll talk about that later.

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I just want to know - are you a good cook?

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I'm OK. I think I'm a little bit too bound by cookbooks.

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My other half likes to improvise,

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and it always ends up much more interesting.

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It's normally different. Women normally improvise,

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-the guys want to stick with what's convenient.

-I know.

-You think so?

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-But I love eating food, so...

-That's all we need to know. That's good.

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Now, of course, at the end of today's programme,

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we'll cook either food heaven or food hell for Hattie.

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So, Hattie, what's your ideal food heaven?

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-My food heaven is Turkish lamb kofta.

-Ooh.

-Mmm.

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Where I live... I've never been to Turkey, I'd love to go,

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but where I live in North London is very close to...

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Well, we've got a Turkish lady lined up for us today.

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Yes, I'm quite excited!

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-We'll sort it...

-What about your food hell?

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My food hell...

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I think this is probably from memories of being young and

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going to quite a lot of bad Chinese restaurants,

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but sweet and sour chicken.

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-Or pork, just...

-Really?

-Yeah. All that orange.

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Well, for your food heaven, we've got a surprise for you.

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We're going to spice up our Scotch pie mixture,

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-which is based on lamb...

-Mmm.

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..and a nice kofta mix with garlic, chilli, mace, fennel,

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black pepper, loads of onions, shaped into koftas.

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That sounds gorgeous.

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Chargrilled, we're going to serve that with a home-made HP Sauce...

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Brown sauce, with tarragon... Oh, my God, my mouth's watering.

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..and a nice cucumber salad.

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-For hell, I'm going to make you a sweet and sour chicken...

-OK.

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-..but it's the Indian version, so it's a little bit different.

-Yeah.

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And it's a chicken which is fried in a spicy batter,

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served with a sweetened sauce with peppers, pineapple, onions,

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-and tomato ketchup, vinegar, and a dash of sugar. No more.

-OK.

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-Gosh, I'm feeling a conversion.

-And serve it with egg fried rice.

-OK.

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-Great.

-You'll have to wait till the end of the show to find out which

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-one she gets, though.

-Mm.

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-Right, let's cook, and Dan is waiting for me. Hello, Dan.

-Hello.

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-Good to see you again, sir.

-You too.

-Yeah.

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-What are we doing today?

-I'm going to make the Scotch bhajia...

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-Yes.

-Saying it the correct way.

-Fantastic.

-So, minced pork,

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some flour, an egg yolk, some ginger and garlic, some chilli,

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-and some coriander.

-OK.

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I've obviously got some soft-boiled eggs and hard-boiled eggs,

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-we're going to make both.

-And we'll explain to people that later.

-Yeah.

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-What have you got on this plate here?

-Here we have chickpea flour,

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normal flour, some onions and then the spice mix that goes into

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the bhajia, so we have cumin, garam masala, ginger, garlic, paprika,

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turmeric. Oh, and onion powder, all ready to go.

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-Bit different to the Indian version, but...

-Probably.

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-I was a bit nervous about what you were going to say.

-Actually...

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Chef, you're saying an Indian version.

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Was it not invented by Fortnum and Mason's, old Scotch eggs?

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Oi, Chef, what's wrong with you, man?

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See, I thought, cos we did... You corrected me

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when I was trying to find a recipe in an old Scottish cookbook.

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It was a nargisi kofta, was it not?

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Well, he's got a kofta, and he's got a bhajia on top of that,

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-so it's fantastic...

-And an egg.

-And an egg.

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-You eat a lot of eggs, right?

-We've got everything on it,

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so Hattie is going to be really, really happy today, I think.

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Because she's got...

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-She's got too many good things to look forward to today.

-I know.

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So we just finely grate this garlic and ginger in there, just so

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-you don't need to worry about chopping it.

-You get the flavour?

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Yeah, you get the good flavour.

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-It's nice and sort of subtly spiced.

-Yeah, so...

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Tell me...

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I mean, we've been to your famed restaurant on the 40th floor

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of the Heron Towers.

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Is it the kind of food you serve there?

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We had it on the menu for about a year,

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and it worked really well, but then...

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This is going in my new book, called...

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What's the new book called?

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It's a bit of a mouthful - Toast, Hash, Roast, Mash.

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Toast, Hash, Roast, Mash.

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You can't read that with a hangover.

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-That sounds more like how Tony speaks, yeah?

-Thanks for that.

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But, tell me something - what's the book about?

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It's recipes like this, playful, creative recipes,

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based on food that's all-day, you know?

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-Kind of the brunch vibe, I guess.

-Yeah.

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So, things... I think there's things you can eat for breakfast, which...

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-And food that anybody can make?

-Yeah, God, yeah.

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You'll see that, how easy this stuff...

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And this is probably one of the more complicated recipes in the book,

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-as well.

-Dan, you've got the ultimate cheese toastie in there.

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-Yeah.

-Is that right?

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-That's for hangovers, Chef.

-That's in the hangover section.

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Well, I was coming to the hangover section.

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I didn't want me to say that, cos Cyrus will need it, obviously.

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So what's in the ultimate toastie?

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We put, obviously, bacon in there, but we use...

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-In the bread, we make it eggy bread style, so...

-Oh!

-Oh, nice, yeah.

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..so we soak the bread in egg, then put the cheese, the bacon,

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and then we...

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OK, what do I do here? Tell me. That goes in?

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Yeah, everything goes in, and we're just going to bind it with water...

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-OK.

-..until it kind of comes together to a nice sort of paste.

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Onions are thin enough?

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Perfect, Chef, perfect.

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All right, sir. Thank you very much. That's good.

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So, traditionally, we flour egg and breadcrumb,

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-like a normal Scotch egg.

-OK.

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But we're taking the Indian vibe here, and...

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So what shall we do now?

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Sorry, you need to add cold water to that, just to make it like

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-a paste.

-All right, let me get some water quickly.

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-Can't wait to taste this, actually.

-I know.

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Smells amazing.

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Very quickly, yeah?

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-So, yeah...

-How wet do you want it?

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Not too wet, just give that a good mix, and...

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-Is it too wet?

-A little bit more.

-Little bit more?

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Yeah, just a little bit more.

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Yeah. I now am taking instructions on making a bhajia from you, Dan.

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I know, you've no idea how this feels.

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I know someone who'd be rolling in his grave if

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he saw you do that just now.

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-Who's that?

-That's good. Your uncle.

-Oh, yeah.

-Of the same name.

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-So, this is the messy naughty bit.

-Ready to go into the fryer?

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I'm just going to take my dirty hands over here.

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Right, let's do that.

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Here's the second one, sir.

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And Dan, could you have them pre-made after you've fried

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them, if you're doing a dinner party?

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Cos it looks quite messy at the end.

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Yeah, yeah, you can definitely pre-do them.

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Just be careful not to burn yourself.

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Chef, he's a bit nervous. He's trying to be Indian.

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It's my dream.

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Otherwise, everything's fine, isn't it?

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When these go in the fryer,

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it's OK for the onions to splay a little bit.

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Cos they're obviously the gorgeous bits that go...

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-The crispy bits, are they tasty anyway?

-That's right.

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-Can you lift that fryer up for me?

-Yeah, wash your hands, yeah?

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My goodness, that is one hell of a football, isn't it?

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So that's it. So that'll take about eight to ten minutes to cook.

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In the meantime, we can make the coriander and lime yoghurt

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-that goes with it.

-Yeah.

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OK, so it's coriander, yoghurt.

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-Yeah.

-And what yoghurt have you used?

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We used just an organic Greek yoghurt at the restaurant,

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-and I'm hoping that's the same one.

-Greek yoghurt? Serin is right there.

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You can't tell her that's Greek yoghurt.

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-That's going to be dangerous.

-Controversial.

-Slip of the tongue.

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-Strained yoghurt, I think.

-He's falling into it today.

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-He's got onion "bhajia," so bhaji.

-It's an Indian yoghurt.

-Yeah, OK.

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We can accept that.

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-Right, we'll pop a little bit of the juice in there as well.

-Go on.

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-Need to steal your knife off you.

-Now, I put the knife at the back,

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-but you can take one from the corner, Chef.

-Ah, thank you.

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Right there. Plenty of knives there. This kitchen is well-equipped.

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Oh, they look good.

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Coriander is something I really love.

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-Same.

-Yeah?

-I actually prefer the stalks to the leaves, as well.

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I know, the stalks are really great. What's on that T-shirt, Chef?

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Come on, you've got to be serious.

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"Content available with subtitles."

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So you don't answer me as well?

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You've not asked me once what I've said, eh? So it works.

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-This is just for you.

-I can read English.

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But it's like insulting us as well. You think I... I can't speak well?

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Not at all, Chef, not at all. Some people can't understand ME.

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-So we're just waiting for the eggs now.

-Any seasoning in that?

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I've put some salt in there already.

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Then what's that going to be served on?

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We're just going to cut the egg onto the plate,

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-and put a nice spoon of this on the side.

-OK.

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-The idea is it cuts the richness...

-Now, let's talk about these eggs,

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OK? So you've got two kinds of eggs here.

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We've got hard-boiled gees, and we've got soft-boiled eggs.

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-Correct.

-So why are we having both?

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-Well, our guest is seven months pregnant, so we don't want to...

-Ah!

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-We don't want to stop her from eating a Scotch egg.

-My fault!

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Everything revolves around this lady today!

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-OK.

-So, yeah, we're going to do two types. If it's soft-boiled...

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They're going to fry in there.

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Correct, but the egg's not really going to cook any more,

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-it's just going to reheat.

-Yep.

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So we have to go a hard one as well, just to make sure it was...

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OK, now tell me something. How many minutes is a soft-boiled egg?

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So, my opinion - I cook a lot of eggs at work. We do...

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-He's the "eggs-pert".

-"Eggs-pert".

-I do five minutes into

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boiling water, for a soft-boiled egg,

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-if you're having it...

-Boom-boom.

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-I call them bang-bang eggs.

-And you're going to eat it from

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-the egg itself?

-With a soldier.

-Then you put it in a little cup?

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-Yeah. And a hard-boiled egg?

-Eight minutes, I'd say. Anything

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eight minutes upwards. It depends.

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People's perception of hard-boiled is very different.

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Some people like it with that black ring round the outside...

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-Personally, I don't.

-That's when it doesn't digest in your body?

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Exactly.

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-You need some coriander seeds.

-Dan, because you're an "eggs-pert"...

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That was Hattie's joke. It was brilliant.

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Right, let's see how this is getting on.

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-See if you cook the bhajia...

-Oh, it's looking good.

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If you cook the bhajia beforehand, and let them rest,

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will the eggs still keep cooking when you re-fry them?

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It depends. You obviously need to allow resting time,

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so I would not cook them...

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I'd take two minutes off the cooking time,

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just cos you're not going to cut them straight away.

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I would then go hard-boiled as well, just because you don't want

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-to get the crust on the runny yolk once you've cut it.

-Right.

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But it is perfect, especially if you've got a dip,

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if it is hard-boiled, it still tastes soft...

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Yeah, but hard-boiled at eight minutes is perfect,

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because the yolk is lovely and buttery.

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-Yeah, exactly, it's creamy.

-And that's what you want.

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Nice and soft and creamy, that's nice.

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-Oh, brilliant.

-So I've kept all the little shards of onion...

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-Let me clear the board for you, sir.

-..because they're...

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-Can I just grab that serrated knife?

-Yeah.

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I keep all of these bits to sprinkle on the top, because they taste...

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Let me move that for you.

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-First of all, while it's still hot...

-OK.

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..a good sprinkling of salt, cos the outside does fall off.

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That must be a trick, because once you do that,

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people tend to drink a bit more, so at home it's great.

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Then they end up staying until three o'clock in the morning.

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-Absolutely right.

-So can I just jump over here?

-Yeah.

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-Want me to... Oh, wow! That's brilliant.

-Ooh!

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Look at that yolk. Stunning.

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There we go. And the mince is perfectly cooked?

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-I believe so.

-What about your dressing, sir?

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-I'm actually going to do a half and half here.

-Yeah, OK.

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-Yeah. So half of... That's also perfect.

-It's a good crunchy noise.

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-Yeah.

-Yeah.

-So we've got one soft, one hard?

-Absolutely.

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-Perfect.

-In the middle of the yolk, a little bit more salt.

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-We like salt.

-Of course.

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Then just a nice spoon of the coriander yoghurt.

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And then it's OK to put this on the side as well...

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A little garnish over there.

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..because people do tend to like those onions.

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-You can't get it off, that's the best bit.

-There you go.

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Now sir, can you please tell us what you have made there?

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-This is a Scotch bhajia...

-Yes.

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..with a coriander and lime yoghurt.

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Let's go, sir.

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Let's go the table, and delve into your fabulous product.

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-This looks amazing.

-There you go, madam. All yours.

-Thank you. Gosh.

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There you are, sir.

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-This is mine, is it? No-one else got any?

-Ladies first.

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-That's a well-fed hen, eh?

-It is.

-Cos the yolk comes back

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from the very... Well.

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-Is that what makes it yellow?

-What they eat, yeah.

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-That crunch is fantastic.

-Crunchy, boys... I know.

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Even when you were chopping it...

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I wouldn't use cutlery, I'd just take a bite and pass it on.

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Would you?

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That'll backfire really badly.

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Oh, let's get stuck in.

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-Ah!

-Mmm.

-Good. Brilliant.

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What's your opinion?

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That is lovely. Mmm.

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This wonderful food needs something wonderful to drink with it.

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-Oh, there's a really spicy hit afterwards.

-Fabulous.

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So, let's see what Olly Smith has picked to go with

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Dan's super Scotch bhajia.

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-Bhajia.

-Bhajia.

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I've come to Herstmonceux Castle in East Sussex, near Eastbourne.

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There's a medieval festival this weekend,

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and before I pick the wines for this week's show,

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I reckon we should get busy and make some history.

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Ha!

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What a noble creature.

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With Dan's sumptuous Scotch egg bhajia, you could choose a rich

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white wine to work with all that delicious spice,

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such as this finest Swartland Chenin blanc from South Africa. Yummy.

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However, there are some dishes that cry out for a cool,

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refreshing modern beer,

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and with craft injecting new life to breweries up and down the country,

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I can't resist choosing this BrewDog Punk IPA.

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Woof!

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This IPA, or India Pale Ale, is brewed just north of Aberdeen,

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and it's really BrewDog's flagship, if you like,

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against bland-tasting beer.

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It's turbo-charged with New World hops,

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and it has a magnificent tropical intensity to it,

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so if you imagine a grapefruit facing off against

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a mango in the Circus Maximus,

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their deadlocked duel would almost certainly taste something like this.

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Ah. That's such a passion fruit power station!

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The sausage meat itself needs a bit of texture, and this beer has the

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right richness to balance, and then you've got the spicing in the

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bhajia mix itself, so that's garam masala, cumin, and ginger.

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That's where the fruitiness comes in,

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of this uncompromisingly tasty brew.

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And finally, the hit of chilli in the dish,

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that lovely bit of spice, neatly echoes the hoppy, bitter finish

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to this brilliant beer that just makes you thirsty for the next sip.

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Dan, here's to your brilliant Scotch bhajia. Cheers!

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This is unusual, isn't it?

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For the first time in my experience here, we've had

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a beer instead of wine, and it makes a great change, actually.

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-I think I prefer it.

-I think it really goes well with it.

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-Go on, what do you think?

-I think it's great.

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-It's really hoppy. It's an IPA, so...

-It's very hoppy.

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-It's got a lot of...

-Very fragrant.

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You think it's difficult to match,

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-or that beer just goes perfectly with it?

-I think anything spicy,

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for me, needs a really hoppy, almost on the edge of bitter...

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-Very cold.

-With hops, you get bitterness,

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the bitterness with the spice, it works really well.

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-Selin, you're cooking next...

-Yes.

-..so what are we going to do?

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I'm doing my version of balik ekmek, which is a mackerel sandwich.

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-How do you pronounce that again?

-Balik ekmek.

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-Balik ekmek.

-Ekmek.

-Ek-mek.

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-Yeah, which literally translates as fish bread.

-Fish bread.

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It's a popular street food in Istanbul,

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and we're going to pan-fry the mackerel with some spices, and

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serve it with a black olive puree and tomato salad with pomegranate.

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Right, let's catch up with Rick Stein.

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You'll find this particularly interesting, Selin,

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-because he's in Istanbul.

-Ah.

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And he's on his way to a local market to meet a genuine spice girl.

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-But we've got one.

-We've got one, but we can have another one.

-OK.

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This place is all about trade.

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In its heyday, it was silk,

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because it was the end of the route from China, and obviously,

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spices from the western shores of India, because they were

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so important, not just for flavouring food, but medicine, too.

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Constantinople, as it was known then,

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was the jewel in the crown, much envied by the world at large,

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a bit like Venice, where I started this journey months ago.

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You get a feel for those heady days,

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especially in the spice market,

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when the air was full of sweet-smelling dust

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from the sacks of spice being off-loaded

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from the ships that came from the East and afar.

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I think the reason that people love this spice market

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so much is cos it reminds them of Christmas -

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well, certainly it does for me - because when I was little,

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it was only at Christmas we got things like Turkish delight,

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flavoured with rose petals, and dried fruit like apricots and figs

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and dates, particularly dates,

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and nuts, hazelnuts, whole hazelnuts, toasted hazelnuts.

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Only later in life did I start to get so interested in the spices,

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like over here, where we've got all

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these different types of chilli pepper, dried chilli pepper,

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and saffron, and turmeric, and peppercorns, and dried mint.

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The whole exoticness of this spice market now really,

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really overtakes me, and the smell.

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You come in here and you smell all these spices,

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and you just feel so excited.

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My friends - all cooks, I have to say -

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get very excited about this place, and they tell me

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to meet up with Bilga, a legend, a spice girl, a real spice girl.

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Bilga, we're doing this journey - it's almost like a journey

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to Byzantium. We started in Venice, and we've been coming all the way,

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here, to Istanbul, and every day, spice is mentioned in some way.

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What does spice mean to you, and to Turkey?

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For me, spice is everything.

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I'm fifth generation in this store, and it's in my blood.

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It comes from my family,

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so it means a lot to me, but for the world it means a lot as well.

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Many people have been killed for spices,

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America was found because of spices, capitalism - the most important word

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in the whole world - started with spices and spice trading,

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so I think spices means a lot to everybody.

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Spices are always the top notch of all the food ingredients

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we own in the world.

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What are these, then? They look like some sort of currants.

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In Turkey, we call it zereshk.

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-It comes from Iran, so one day, when I make biryani rice...

-I've had it!

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-In Bombay.

-That's exactly what they use.

-What are they called, then?

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Zereshk in Turkish and Irani, like Farsi, they call it zereshk,

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but the Latin name for it Berberis.

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-That's right.

-Not Burberry. Berberis.

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I love the colour of this.

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OK, these are Uzun ground pistachios,

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and we use it for ice cream and baklava,

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one of the most famous desserts on the Earth, and most tasty,

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but if you want to get a lazy, quick dessert,

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I use these sundried natural apricots.

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-I see.

-And I make a small Turkish sandwich, and feed my loved ones.

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Oh, I love the look of that.

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Mmm. Perfect.

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-This is what I call food porn.

-Absolutely.

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-Two of my favourite flavours in one.

-Yep.

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Spices, as I've said, remind me of Christmas treats,

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and I have to say, I couldn't come here to Istanbul

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without seeing how they make one Christmas memory,

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and that's Turkish delight, made in this shop for well over 100 years.

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It's loads and loads of cornflour, water of course, masses of sugar,

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heated up, and rose petals, and a tiny bit of red colouring.

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Roses can be traced back to Persia, Babylon, Egypt, and China.

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Look at that.

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It's like strawberry jam, hot out of the pot, and it smells divine.

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Apparently, this came about because a sultan had some

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very grumpy concubines, and he wanted to sweeten them up,

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so he called for his chief confectioner, and told him to

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concoct something that would make them smile, and this is it.

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The smell in here is so wonderfully exotic, of rose petals.

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SPEAKING TURKISH

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I am a serious fan of Turkish delight.

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Nothing sums up the opulence of those sultans,

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the Ottoman sultans, than Turkish delight,

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and when I think that it was a secret recipe

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for Suleiman the Magnificent and his family, and these 700 women

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in his harem, it just adds to it, and I'm told that tasting it when

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it's still warm is an experience you're never going to forget.

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Oh!

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Talk happy, those 700 women, the gold, the silver, this is Byzantium.

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Call me old-fashioned, call me what you like,

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but I associate Istanbul with pomegranate juice.

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People say it keeps you young, it's good for the heart, etc, etc.

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Well, I don't know about that,

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I just do know that in September and October, it's at its best.

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Just love to see these fresh juices everywhere.

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They slice the tops of pomegranates, grapefruits, oranges, lemons.

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You get this lovely smell that sells the drink.

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It's not just a drink it's used for.

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The seeds, mixed with pearl barley, spring onions,

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loads of parsley, fresh mint - they go really well together.

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It's a symbol of abundance, fertility, and good luck.

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I know that in parts of Greece, it's lucky to receive

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a pomegranate as a first gift when you buy a new house.

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Chopped pistachios, sweet pistachios, olive oil

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oh, and then the most important thing - pomegranate molasses.

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Mark my words, people will be asking for this in supermarkets.

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A touch of seasoning, and that's it.

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I think sometimes in Britain,

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we sort of think of salads as a bit of an afterthought.

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You know, we've got the steak or some chops, and we say,

0:24:560:24:59

"Oh, let's do a salad," and you go into the fridge and you've

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got lettuce and tomato, but in Turkey, it's anything but.

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Salads like this are really common.

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I think it's one of the real stars of Turkish cooking,

0:25:080:25:11

these salads like this.

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They're so beautiful, and they taste so good.

0:25:120:25:15

Great stuff, Rick, and what a great-looking spice market.

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That film has inspired us to make something using one of the

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many delicious things Rick had in that film - rose water.

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It makes wonderful desserts, and we're going to use it to make

0:25:390:25:42

this brilliant summer pud - a rose water and strawberry trifle.

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Fantastic. I'm going to make the cream, Chef.

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-Well, I'm going to make the... We'll make the jelly first, OK?

-Yep.

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And then we're going to use the pot for the sponge,

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so we don't waste anything, all right?

0:25:530:25:55

Go for it. You're very Indian, Chef, don't waste anything.

0:25:550:25:58

Don't waste anything.

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We believe in that. Waste not, want not.

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-Hattie, so, do you like strawberries?

-I love strawberries.

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-Do you like roses?

-I love roses.

-Do you like trifle?

-I love trifle.

0:26:050:26:09

-Well, then...

-Do you like rose water?

0:26:090:26:11

-Yes, I do.

-Ah, have you had rose water, before?

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Well, rose water in rice pudding, in Turkish restaurants.

0:26:140:26:17

Very Indian. We taught the British so much.

0:26:170:26:19

Is it part of your beauty regime?

0:26:190:26:22

-Because you're going to play Beauty...

-Rose water? And The Beast.

0:26:220:26:25

-Beauty And The Beast, that's true.

-Chef.

-You can use it, can't you?

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It's meant to be very good for the skin.

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It was used by Cleopatra in antiquity,

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and she was quite famed for being a hottie.

0:26:320:26:34

-Yes, she was.

-You know what?

-LAUGHTER

0:26:340:26:36

Well, if she used it, it's got to be good.

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Yeah, cos it's got quite a lot of anti-inflammatory,

0:26:400:26:44

for puffy eyes, stuff like that.

0:26:440:26:45

-Oh.

-Not that I need them.

-OK.

0:26:450:26:47

Cyrus, and his late nights out to the Duck And Waffle.

0:26:470:26:50

Never without a bottle of rose water.

0:26:500:26:52

-So Cleopatra...

-Tell us something about the new drama that you're in.

0:26:520:26:55

-Yes, so, I'm...

-Mother And Other Strangers.

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That's right, it's called My Mother And Other Strangers.

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It's a new Sunday night BBC One drama, five parts,

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and it's a really lovely show.

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It's set in Northern Ireland, during the Second World War,

0:27:080:27:12

and it's all about the tensions

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between the local American airbase,

0:27:150:27:19

because a whole load of American air force came to

0:27:190:27:23

Northern Ireland to do their training,

0:27:230:27:25

and the local community, and at the centre of it is a family.

0:27:250:27:28

It's about heartbreak, and it's very funny,

0:27:280:27:31

but it's about a family in crisis, and relationships...

0:27:310:27:33

See, that's what I like,

0:27:330:27:35

cos the lead character was written about you.

0:27:350:27:38

It was written around you, because I think I heard...

0:27:380:27:42

Because you can go from serenity to mad as a brush,

0:27:420:27:45

SNAPS FINGERS like that.

0:27:450:27:47

-Which is great.

-Yeah.

0:27:470:27:48

The writer, Barry Devlin, it's never happened before,

0:27:480:27:52

but he had seen my work and wrote it with me in mind,

0:27:520:27:56

which is a very lovely thing to happen as an actor.

0:27:560:27:58

-Brilliant.

-It's quite rare. So, erm...

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-..it was a real treat to do.

-Is it based on a true story?

0:28:020:28:04

It's...

0:28:040:28:05

I think the writer, Barry Devlin, has drawn a lot on his own

0:28:050:28:09

upbringing and the place he's from, but the characters are original.

0:28:090:28:12

Sorry, I just need to nip in there, because in here, in case people

0:28:120:28:15

forget, is chopped strawberries, sugar, and a little bit of water.

0:28:150:28:19

I'll put that on boiling water there for about 25 minutes, 30 minutes.

0:28:190:28:23

And what you end up with is this lovely strawberry juice.

0:28:230:28:27

Go on, Chef. Oh, beat that cream, it's going to turn to butter.

0:28:270:28:30

That's what I mean. So you make this lovely strawberry juice, OK?

0:28:300:28:32

-Fabulous.

-But what we'll do with that is we'll pass it,

0:28:320:28:35

while it's warm.

0:28:350:28:37

-Oh, can you smell that, Hattie? It's just...

-I can.

-Very fruity.

0:28:380:28:41

This is for the jelly?

0:28:410:28:42

This is for the jelly, so pure strawberries,

0:28:420:28:44

bit of sugar, some leaf gelatine...

0:28:440:28:48

..that we've soaked, and make sure you squeeze it out...

0:28:480:28:51

Why do you soak leaf gelatine, Chef?

0:28:510:28:52

Because it comes quite hard, and thin as well,

0:28:520:28:55

or you bloom powdered gelatine, but leaf gelatine's much easier to use.

0:28:550:28:58

-And do you soak it in hot water, cold water?

-Cold water, Chef.

0:28:580:29:00

-Why not hot water?

-Because it'll just stick together and...

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Oh, right.

0:29:030:29:05

OK, so, that's your mashed-up strawberries to spread on

0:29:050:29:08

-your sponge. OK?

-Yep.

0:29:080:29:11

-Nice.

-And this is the jelly,

0:29:110:29:13

which we'll use to pour on the trifle,

0:29:130:29:15

but we'll use it as a garnish as well, so a try lined with clingfilm.

0:29:150:29:19

We'll put a bit of...

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..jelly in there, and then we'll freeze it...

0:29:250:29:27

Not freeze it, we'll chill it,

0:29:270:29:28

and we'll cut out cubes to garnish the top of the trifle.

0:29:280:29:31

And we've got some port coming through, yeah?

0:29:340:29:37

-That we'll put over the sponge.

-OK.

0:29:370:29:39

-And then we'll put the cream, and then we'll sandwich it.

-Mm-hm.

0:29:390:29:42

And then we'll, uh...

0:29:420:29:43

-Have you cut it into... Yeah.

-OK, Cyrus, you going to do the sponge?

0:29:440:29:49

One of the things, that's trifle, the word's meant to have

0:29:490:29:52

-come from the French, truffler, which means "fliverlous."

-Frivolous.

0:29:520:29:57

So it's fun, it's light, it's just a great way to use up leftover sponge.

0:29:570:30:02

-See?

-Oh, that's fantastic.

-OK, Chef.

-What about other trifles, Chef?

0:30:020:30:06

OK, so if you cut that into squares...

0:30:060:30:08

Do they make trifles in Turkey?

0:30:100:30:12

-Er, I don't think so.

-No?

0:30:120:30:15

But, just how Tony's making that jelly, I do that as well,

0:30:150:30:18

with the strawberries and with raspberries.

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Got a bit of vanilla in there as well, and I set that on top of

0:30:200:30:23

a dessert called a muhallebi, which is like a thickened milk pudding.

0:30:230:30:27

You know, rose is such a Persian thing.

0:30:270:30:30

-It's been going on for centuries and centuries.

-Mm-hm.

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In fact, the most expensive perfume in the world is made from roses,

0:30:320:30:37

-and I believe they are, like, 25 a drop.

-God!

0:30:370:30:41

So, what, Chef? Cut this into pieces for you?

0:30:410:30:43

Cut little pieces, and we'll start to layer that,

0:30:430:30:45

-we'll put a bit of jelly on it.

-And it gets a bit messy.

-Yeah.

0:30:450:30:49

-Well, as it should. That's the idea.

-Yeah. Very messy.

0:30:490:30:52

So you need time on your hands when you do it at home.

0:30:520:30:55

-Yeah.

-You don't have six minutes to rush it.

0:30:550:30:57

What's the best thing about being in a period drama?

0:30:570:30:59

-Is it dressing up, or acting crazy, or...?

-Erm... Acting crazy.

0:30:590:31:04

Oh, good.

0:31:040:31:06

The dressing up's fun. This wasn't...

0:31:060:31:09

I mean, '40s is, you know... The central family that we...

0:31:090:31:13

-We wore a lot of knitwear.

-Knitwear?

-It was that kind of...

0:31:130:31:16

It wasn't the most glamorous side of it.

0:31:160:31:19

Some characters came in, they were more cosmopolitan,

0:31:190:31:21

and did the whole beautiful-styled hair, and red lips...

0:31:210:31:25

It's a rural community, but, yeah,

0:31:250:31:27

it's fun to try out different styles, and...

0:31:270:31:31

I imagine it would be quite austere as well, that time period.

0:31:310:31:34

-Yeah. Rationing.

-OK, Chef.

-Some syrup in there, Chef.

0:31:340:31:36

You wouldn't have been able to have this in the '40s.

0:31:360:31:40

-There is no rationing, sir. No rationing.

-No rationing.

0:31:400:31:42

We are not worried about figures here.

0:31:420:31:45

-So, Chef, what we do here...

-Yep.

0:31:450:31:47

-Soak it.

-..is soak it. There.

0:31:470:31:50

Don't be so dainty, Chef. Come on.

0:31:500:31:52

I'm going to finish that one.

0:31:520:31:53

-Yeah, but you are making it a trifle too...

-A trifle, oh!

0:31:530:31:56

Are you an eggspert as well?

0:31:560:31:58

-So this is what we do, we let it set then we build it up...

-OK.

0:31:580:32:00

-..but what Chef's going to do now is put them in here, nicely.

-Ah.

0:32:000:32:05

-So that's custard? That's the creme pat?

-That's creme pat.

0:32:050:32:08

We will have custard there.

0:32:080:32:10

We're going to do that as well, so Cyrus is going to put on these here.

0:32:100:32:13

-I've got the creme pat.

-And I can cheat a little bit, you know?

0:32:130:32:17

-I'll cut the jelly.

-And in each layer, do you soak the sponge?

0:32:170:32:20

-Yes.

-You should.

0:32:200:32:21

But there's no alcohol in here, because of... For you.

0:32:210:32:24

Oh, OK, yes, sorry.

0:32:240:32:26

No, no, not at all. We'd be drunk before lunch.

0:32:260:32:28

Lovely.

0:32:330:32:35

And then we chill that again, but we're going to do this in real time.

0:32:350:32:37

Whoa, look at that.

0:32:370:32:40

And do you know what's great when you make this?

0:32:400:32:42

You've got jelly to eat afterwards as well.

0:32:420:32:44

-Are you worried about old custard?

-No.

0:32:440:32:46

-So this is whipped cream with the strawberry pulp?

-Strawberry pulp.

0:32:500:32:53

When you're in the kitchen, you get a chance to lick the spoon.

0:32:530:32:56

-Hang on. It's going over the side, be careful.

-It's OK, I've got this.

0:32:560:32:59

Go on, go on. I've got the spatula, don't worry.

0:32:590:33:02

-Pat the trifle, Chef.

-All right, all right, sir.

0:33:020:33:04

-So, now rose petals, arranged artistically.

-Artistically?

0:33:040:33:08

-Go on, then.

-And then if you cut them into quarters...

0:33:080:33:11

I'll cut the strawberry artistically.

0:33:110:33:13

-You put the petal... It can't be frozen, now.

-Petals, lovely.

0:33:130:33:16

What have you done to the petals? Can you tell the viewers, please?

0:33:160:33:19

-Yeah, I was just going to say...

-They look crispy.

-They are crispy.

0:33:190:33:22

-Nice rose petals.

-OK.

0:33:220:33:23

Whisk up some egg white, brush them onto your rose petals,

0:33:230:33:26

sprinkle some sugar on them. We do it in a vegetable drier.

0:33:260:33:29

You could put it in the airing cupboard of your house.

0:33:290:33:31

They've got glitter on as well, haven't they?

0:33:310:33:33

-No, no, that's the egg whites.

-That's just the egg whites? Wow.

0:33:330:33:36

-And then pop it into...

-They don't need glitter.

0:33:360:33:39

-You want a taste?

-Yeah. What, to eat it, or put it on?

0:33:400:33:42

-Oh, no, it's got raw egg white on it. Sorry, you cannae have that.

-OK.

0:33:420:33:45

-Yeah. Just in case.

-Thank you.

0:33:450:33:48

-You're my doctor.

-And you make the custard with the egg yolks?

0:33:480:33:51

Yeah, that's it. There's no waste at all.

0:33:510:33:53

-Indian.

-That's true.

-We should pop this in right now.

0:33:530:33:55

How long have the rose petals been in the oven, Chef?

0:33:550:33:57

You can do them in the oven for 20 minutes,

0:33:570:33:59

or you can put them in an airing cupboard, or leave them on

0:33:590:34:01

the top of your wardrobe if your bedroom's nice and warm.

0:34:010:34:04

-Or in your bedroom, so you get nice scent as well.

-It smells great.

0:34:040:34:06

We're not going to use everything...

0:34:060:34:08

-Have them in the bedroom, you can imagine.

-Well, this is it.

0:34:080:34:11

After a night out on the razzle with Chef, there you go.

0:34:110:34:14

This is magnificent.

0:34:160:34:19

Strawberry and rose petal trifle.

0:34:190:34:21

-Bravo. I think it looks amazing.

-Would you like a try?

0:34:210:34:24

I... Yes. Yes, please.

0:34:240:34:26

-I won't say no.

-And shall we give you a large plate, madam?

0:34:270:34:31

-Oh, God!

-LAUGHTER

0:34:310:34:32

-How exciting.

-Bigger portion?

0:34:350:34:37

No, that's absolutely plenty, thank you very much!

0:34:370:34:40

Having seen the amount of cream that's gone in.

0:34:400:34:43

-Oh, God.

-Mm, nice.

-You want to have a bit of every element, don't you?

0:34:440:34:47

Yeah, you want jelly on it, and did you get a strawberry?

0:34:470:34:50

Mm-mm. Thank you. Well, there is one... Oh, thank you.

0:34:500:34:53

And did you get the rose water coming out of it?

0:34:530:34:55

I do get the rose water. Yeah.

0:34:550:34:57

Oh, my God, I really do, that's amazing.

0:34:570:34:59

It comes through because it's nice, lovely rose water.

0:34:590:35:01

-Hundreds of roses gave their lives for that, so I'd hope so.

-Mm.

0:35:010:35:05

So, what will we be cooking for Hattie at the end of the show?

0:35:050:35:08

Will it be food heaven, lamb koftas, specimen style?

0:35:080:35:12

The lamb is mixed with garlic, chilli, mace, cumin, fennel,

0:35:120:35:15

plenty of red onions, shaped into kebabs, chargrilled,

0:35:150:35:18

served with spiced up brown sauce and a cucumber salad.

0:35:180:35:21

Or food hell, Hattie?

0:35:210:35:22

But I think you should try that, actually,

0:35:220:35:24

-because it's different to what you probably had.

-Yeah.

0:35:240:35:27

It's sweet and sour chicken,

0:35:270:35:28

and the chicken is fried in a spicy batter,

0:35:280:35:30

and then to add to the sauce we've got pineapple, peppers,

0:35:300:35:34

onion, spring onion, tomato ketchup, bit of chicken stock,

0:35:340:35:37

and cornstarch to finish it off.

0:35:370:35:39

-Sounds very good.

-How do you like that?

-Yeah, I'm very tempted.

0:35:390:35:42

Right, let's go exploring China with Ching.

0:35:420:35:45

She's left Ken in his hotel room this week to visit an organic

0:35:450:35:48

pig farmer near the city of Chengdu.

0:35:480:35:51

She's cooking for them.

0:35:510:35:52

It's fair to say they are a pretty tough crowd to please. Take a look.

0:35:520:35:56

The climate might be damp here,

0:36:040:36:06

but it's contributed to the area around Chengdu being so fertile

0:36:060:36:10

that Sichuan is known in China as the land of abundance.

0:36:100:36:13

But it's not only crops -

0:36:160:36:17

it also supplies over half the country's pork.

0:36:170:36:20

My dad kept pigs when I was growing up,

0:36:210:36:23

so I'm looking forward to visiting a local pig farmer.

0:36:230:36:26

I'm hoping to try my hand at some traditional pork dishes.

0:36:270:36:30

Mr Peng is different to most farmers in the region,

0:36:340:36:37

because his pigs are organic.

0:36:380:36:40

Nearly three-quarters of all the meat eaten in China is pork.

0:36:460:36:49

To the Chinese, pigs symbolise virility, and traditionally

0:36:510:36:54

they've always been an important part of everyday life.

0:36:540:36:58

Wow, they're really hungry.

0:36:580:37:00

Hello, piggy.

0:37:000:37:02

And, although the Chinese eat every part of the pig,

0:37:020:37:05

they still get through nearly two million every day.

0:37:050:37:08

With so much pressure to churn out pork,

0:37:110:37:14

organic farming has not been a priority,

0:37:140:37:16

so I'm happy to discover Mr Peng is obsessive about his pigs' wellbeing.

0:37:160:37:20

He produces and mixes his own feed,

0:37:220:37:24

and has a radical and unusual approach to their health.

0:37:240:37:27

This is all Chinese medicine herbs.

0:37:350:37:37

I still can't believe they eat so well.

0:37:390:37:41

Mr Peng's business started slowly, but in the last five years, due to

0:37:440:37:47

food safety scares and the expanding middle class,

0:37:470:37:50

the demand for organic food has quadrupled.

0:37:500:37:53

He's invited me to his house to meet his wife, and to have some supper.

0:38:030:38:08

In return, I've offered to cook a dish for them.

0:38:080:38:11

From all the activity,

0:38:110:38:12

it looks like I'm in for more than the simple supper I was expecting.

0:38:120:38:16

With typical Chinese hospitality,

0:38:160:38:18

Mrs Peng is preparing us a feast using every part of the pig.

0:38:180:38:22

She said, "This is like a bridge. A bridge pork rib."

0:38:260:38:29

It's a really wonderful way of steaming here.

0:38:290:38:32

You just put water in the base,

0:38:320:38:34

and then put a plate over the top.

0:38:340:38:37

Their woks look amazing!

0:38:380:38:40

For her next dish,

0:38:570:38:58

Mrs Peng is making another local speciality - cherry pork, made with

0:38:580:39:02

soy sauce, and a mix of caramelised sugar and a touch of vinegar.

0:39:020:39:06

Oh, it's juicy, and really tender, and very sweet.

0:39:210:39:25

'I'm planning to cook my hosts a dish using more of that

0:39:290:39:32

'delicious pork belly - a Sichuan classic called twice-cooked pork.'

0:39:320:39:36

'Mr and Mrs Peng are clearly very particular about their food,

0:39:470:39:51

'and they both seem concerned that

0:39:510:39:52

'I won't stick to the traditional recipe.'

0:39:520:39:55

The light is used for seasoning, for saltiness,

0:40:160:40:19

and then the dark is used for colour, to caramel it.

0:40:190:40:21

Now, there are so many different variations.

0:40:210:40:25

She likes to use the loutol, which is the dark soy sauce,

0:40:250:40:29

but I like to mix a little bit, the light and the dark.

0:40:290:40:34

'For my version of the dish, I'm starting with fermented black beans,

0:40:340:40:38

'mixing them with chilli bean paste and frying the mixture in hot oil.'

0:40:380:40:41

Mix together.

0:40:410:40:44

'Twice-cooked pork is essentially a stir-fry dish, using slices

0:40:440:40:47

'of pork belly that have already been boiled for half an hour.'

0:40:470:40:51

And I'm just going to add a little bit of the dark soy sauce.

0:40:530:40:56

And then a little bit of the light, as well.

0:40:580:41:00

Little bit of sugar.

0:41:030:41:04

'The last ingredient in, as they only need a minute or so,

0:41:050:41:07

'are the spring onions.'

0:41:070:41:09

I hope they're going to enjoy this.

0:41:140:41:16

He's so proud of, you know,

0:41:300:41:32

the Sichuan classic, classic hui guo rou.

0:41:320:41:36

This isn't even good enough for him.

0:41:360:41:38

He said, "It's OK, it's salty, but it's not the real thing."

0:42:040:42:09

But Mrs Peng, she said it's good.

0:42:090:42:12

Mrs Peng has made us so many classic Sichuan Pork dishes,

0:42:140:42:18

each using a different cooking method.

0:42:180:42:20

Doesn't it look amazing, all the dishes together?

0:42:220:42:25

Dressing on this pigsa is really good.

0:42:350:42:37

It's very crunchy.

0:42:380:42:39

Cartilege-y.

0:42:410:42:42

But good.

0:42:440:42:45

This is Mr Peng's daughter.

0:42:480:42:50

Actually, I'm going to ask her what she thinks of my hui guo rou,

0:42:500:42:53

my twice-cooked pork.

0:42:530:42:55

She said it's good. It's got good taste.

0:43:010:43:04

At least someone likes it.

0:43:040:43:06

Hattie, I know we made a mean trifle, and I know you're

0:43:120:43:15

eating for two, but really, that is a joke, isn't it?

0:43:150:43:17

I know, I couldn't help myself.

0:43:170:43:19

-All that trifle!

-All of it.

-Still to come this morning -

0:43:190:43:22

James Martin is showing off his pastry skills.

0:43:220:43:25

He's at home, making a luxurious-looking lemon tart,

0:43:250:43:28

which is served with creme fraiche and a little icing sugar.

0:43:280:43:31

Stunning.

0:43:310:43:33

And there's no omelette-making today,

0:43:330:43:34

but we're challenging in a different way.

0:43:340:43:37

Yes - we'll be playing a Saturday kitchen version of Spin The Bottle.

0:43:370:43:42

And - will Hattie be facing food heaven, or food hell?

0:43:420:43:45

-Spicy koftas...

-Or will it be food hell?

0:43:450:43:47

Sweet and sour chicken with extra pineapple.

0:43:470:43:50

You can see what she ends up at the end of the show.

0:43:500:43:53

Right, Cyrus, it's my turn to cook with Selin, and you go and sit down.

0:43:530:43:56

So, what can I do for you?

0:43:560:43:59

Well, you're going to start off by making a lovely gazpacho

0:43:590:44:02

-for me, please.

-OK.

0:44:020:44:04

But, just before that, we're going to toast off some spices.

0:44:040:44:07

-I'm comfortable with this.

-Very comfortable with that, I'm sure.

0:44:070:44:10

So what have we got in here?

0:44:100:44:12

We've got some fennel seeds and some cumin seeds,

0:44:120:44:15

so just going to lightly toast those and then we'll grind those up.

0:44:150:44:20

And I'm just going to cut up this bread here.

0:44:200:44:22

We've got a lovely loaf of Turkish bread,

0:44:220:44:25

and we are going to just make this into some crostini.

0:44:250:44:28

Crostini. And if you didn't have traditional Turkish bread,

0:44:280:44:31

could you use something else?

0:44:310:44:32

You can use anything. A nice white crusty loaf,

0:44:320:44:35

-I think is best.

-And you say this is based on a street food?

0:44:350:44:38

Yeah, called balik ekmek, and what they would normally do is

0:44:380:44:43

you'd literally probably get half one of these,

0:44:430:44:46

like that, and then slit that open,

0:44:460:44:48

and do a lovely grilled mackerel with a nice salad in there,

0:44:480:44:53

very similar to what we're doing, but mine is slightly more...

0:44:530:44:56

-Refined?

-Yeah, slightly just more complicated.

0:44:560:45:00

-Just a little.

-Superb.

0:45:000:45:01

This has got a lovely aroma coming out of it. Do you want it to

0:45:010:45:03

-change colour, or...

-What have you got in the pan, Chef?

0:45:030:45:06

We've got fennel seeds and cumin seeds, Chef.

0:45:060:45:08

-And there's something there I've not used before.

-What's that?

0:45:080:45:11

Pul biber?

0:45:110:45:12

-Pul biber.

-Pul biber.

0:45:120:45:14

Pul biber, yeah, red chilli flakes, also known as aleppo chilli.

0:45:140:45:17

-Cos I tried that, and it's really fruity.

-Yeah, yeah.

0:45:170:45:20

-It's got the heat, but it's really fruity.

-Yeah, really fruity.

0:45:200:45:23

So just going to put a little bit of salt on these and

0:45:230:45:25

-a little drizzle of olive oil, and pop them into the oven.

-OK.

0:45:250:45:29

And then once I've toasted the fennel and the cumin seeds...

0:45:290:45:33

-Yeah, if you could just grind those up for me.

-Is that OK?

0:45:350:45:38

-Yep, that's great.

-Perfect.

0:45:380:45:40

-And then...

-Is this on your menu, Selin?

-It is on the menu, yeah.

0:45:420:45:47

-Just put it on recently.

-Is it quite popular?

0:45:470:45:50

Er, yeah. It's going down really well so far, yeah.

0:45:500:45:53

And are you serving it with half of bread, and mackerel in the middle?

0:45:530:45:56

No.

0:45:560:45:57

See, our food is all about sharing plates, so I think if I gave someone

0:45:570:46:00

half a loaf of bread, they're going to be full up quite quickly. Yeah.

0:46:000:46:05

Mackerel's one of my favourite fishes. It's just lovely.

0:46:050:46:08

Yeah, me, too. Me too.

0:46:080:46:10

The only thing about mackerel is it's got to be really fresh, Chef.

0:46:100:46:13

-Yeah.

-Yeah, it's an oily fish,

0:46:130:46:14

and that's one of the ones you have to have super...

0:46:140:46:16

-Oily fish tends to go off very quickly.

-Spanking.

0:46:160:46:19

So what do you look for, in a good fish?

0:46:190:46:21

You're buying a whole fish in the market.

0:46:210:46:23

Nice firm body, bright eyes, bright gills.

0:46:230:46:27

But if you've got a good fishmonger,

0:46:270:46:28

you don't really need to check, it'll come in crisp.

0:46:280:46:31

Are you happy with your fishmonger? Always good gear?

0:46:310:46:33

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Really happy, actually.

0:46:330:46:35

-Run your finger over it.

-OK, so, is that fine enough for you?

0:46:350:46:38

-Yes, that's perfect. So if you just pop that in there.

-Pop it in there.

0:46:380:46:41

That's it.

0:46:410:46:42

And then, if you can just take the tomatoes, pepper,

0:46:420:46:45

-peel the cucumber, bit of garlic.

-A wee gazpacho.

0:46:450:46:48

Whizz that all up,

0:46:480:46:50

-and you can take a bit of that bread from there as well.

-OK.

0:46:500:46:53

-So we've got the fennel seeds, cumin, and the pul biber.

-Mm-hm.

0:46:540:46:59

Mix that all together.

0:46:590:47:00

-And we're just putting the flesh side of the mackerel into that.

-OK.

0:47:010:47:05

And did you put any salt in the mixture? No?

0:47:070:47:09

No salt in the mix, I'm going to season it while it's in the pan.

0:47:090:47:12

Brilliant.

0:47:120:47:14

What are you working on apart from the new restaurant?

0:47:140:47:16

Cos it's busy, it's got great reviews. What else are you doing?

0:47:160:47:19

-I am... I've just sort of been writing a book, actually.

-Ah.

0:47:190:47:25

That's what I've been doing.

0:47:250:47:26

Yeah, so, it's going to be The Oklava Cookbook,

0:47:260:47:29

so we're going to have...

0:47:290:47:31

I'm just going to grab another knife here.

0:47:310:47:35

So we're going to have restaurant recipes,

0:47:350:47:37

but also sort of recipes that have been inspired by my mum's cooking

0:47:370:47:43

and my grandmother's cooking, so real nice home-style dishes as well.

0:47:430:47:48

So I've got a medium hot pan here, I'm going to pop in the mackerel.

0:47:480:47:51

I'm only putting the spices on the flesh side,

0:47:510:47:54

because I'm mostly going to cook this through on the skin side,

0:47:540:47:57

so we get the skin nice and crispy,

0:47:570:48:00

-but without burning the spices...

-And then flip it over last minute?

0:48:000:48:03

Yeah, flip it over last minute.

0:48:030:48:05

It's got a mind of its own.

0:48:050:48:07

MIXER WHIRRING

0:48:070:48:10

So it helps with mackerel,

0:48:150:48:17

especially when you take those bones out from the middle...

0:48:170:48:20

..to just put a bit of pressure down on it while it's in the pan,

0:48:200:48:23

so you keep it nice and flat.

0:48:230:48:25

I normally put a plate or a pan on top.

0:48:250:48:27

Yeah, you could do that as well.

0:48:270:48:28

Where do you get your ideas from?

0:48:280:48:30

Is it always from home cooking, trips abroad, books,

0:48:300:48:33

bit of everything?

0:48:330:48:34

It's a little bit of everything, to be honest with you.

0:48:340:48:36

I think once I started writing the book, I realised how much

0:48:360:48:40

inspiration I actually take from my mum and my grandmother,

0:48:400:48:44

and realised how much I was thinking of these really

0:48:440:48:48

small things, it might be a dressing or

0:48:480:48:50

a small element of something that they made.

0:48:500:48:52

I find that really inspirational when I developed that into

0:48:520:48:56

the way that I cook now.

0:48:560:48:57

I've also got a little bit here of chilli butter, so this is

0:48:570:49:00

just the nut-brown butter, and then we put some more of that...

0:49:000:49:04

Strain that off, the butter, and then its pul biber again,

0:49:040:49:07

in there, and a little bit of olive oil at the end.

0:49:070:49:11

Pul biber, I just love that word, it's great.

0:49:110:49:14

And it tastes brilliant as well.

0:49:150:49:17

So, traditionally,

0:49:180:49:20

when you have this along the bridge in Istanbul, you'd get...

0:49:200:49:23

-Sometimes you get a glass of pickles.

-OK.

0:49:240:49:27

Radishes and peppers, cauliflower, carrots,

0:49:270:49:31

all sorts in there,

0:49:310:49:32

and it's topped with what's known as salgam, which is turnip juice.

0:49:320:49:36

Sounds a bit odd, but it makes really delicious salad dressings,

0:49:360:49:40

and they use it a lot in pickles as well.

0:49:400:49:43

I like plenty, plenty of parsley in this,

0:49:450:49:47

-and then we've got a bit of olive oil.

-Would you like me to mix that?

0:49:470:49:51

Yeah, give that a mix.

0:49:510:49:52

-Smells so fresh, doesn't it?

-I think we're nearly there.

0:49:520:49:56

Done that one...

0:49:570:49:59

Forgot I was on telly, I was just going to use my fingers.

0:49:590:50:02

OK, would you like this plated centre of the plate, or...?

0:50:050:50:08

-No, we're going to kind of layer it up.

-OK.

0:50:080:50:12

So the mackerel, we can see, is pretty much cooked through there,

0:50:120:50:15

so I'm just going to take it off the heat.

0:50:150:50:17

And just flip it over, just to finish it.

0:50:170:50:20

Smells wonderful, eh?

0:50:200:50:22

So, we've got a little bit of... This is black olive paste,

0:50:230:50:26

-eaten at breakfast time as a spread, or...

-So just like a tapenade?

0:50:260:50:31

Yeah, exactly. But literally just black olive.

0:50:310:50:34

-No anchovy in it, or...?

-No anchovy, no, nothing else.

0:50:340:50:37

And then we've got our...

0:50:390:50:40

..lovely crostini here, so I'm just going to take a bit of this,

0:50:420:50:45

cos it could get a bit messy.

0:50:450:50:46

-Now I'll just dip that in there...

-Mm-hm.

0:50:520:50:54

..so it's nice, cos you'll have the bit of crunch...

0:50:540:50:56

And it's softening up, yeah.

0:50:560:50:58

-Soften up and soak up all that lovely flavour, yeah.

-Love it.

0:50:580:51:01

Do one of those there.

0:51:020:51:04

Another one.

0:51:050:51:07

-Oh.

-She cut it with a fork and a knife.

-That's a crispy crostini.

0:51:070:51:11

-Lovely.

-OK.

0:51:130:51:14

-Nice toasted bread, soaked in that, would taste really good.

-Mm.

0:51:140:51:18

-This is like a sketch show, isn't it?

-Yeah.

-Sketch show.

0:51:180:51:22

-There, we're just going to do a little bit of Nigella seeds.

-Mm-hm.

0:51:220:51:25

Which adds a really nice element.

0:51:250:51:28

-A few of these pickled chillies.

-And here's your radishes.

0:51:280:51:31

Get rid of that.

0:51:370:51:38

Cool. Throw that on salad, and then we'll take...

0:51:410:51:44

..a bit of this mackerel

0:51:470:51:48

Pop that on there.

0:51:530:51:55

Just take a little bit of this chilli butter,

0:51:550:51:57

which just gives a nice richness to it.

0:51:570:51:59

Fabby.

0:52:020:52:03

So this is definitely one to get a little bit messy with.

0:52:040:52:08

-OK.

-There we go.

-So, what have we got there, then?

0:52:090:52:13

There is my take on balik ekmek,

0:52:130:52:15

which is a mackerel sandwich with tomato salad and black olive.

0:52:150:52:19

-There we go.

-Wow.

0:52:230:52:25

-Look at that.

-Oh, my God.

-You are in heaven today, aren't you?

0:52:250:52:28

I really am!

0:52:280:52:30

-Let's do one from this side.

-There's so many different bits.

0:52:300:52:34

There you can go.

0:52:340:52:35

It's the colours that are so amazing, aren't they?

0:52:350:52:37

-Just smells so fresh as well.

-It really does.

-Yeah, go for it.

0:52:370:52:40

Right, we need something to drink with this,

0:52:400:52:42

so let's see what Olly Smith has chosen to go with Selin's mackerel.

0:52:420:52:46

With Selin's magical mackerel,

0:53:190:53:21

you might be tempted by a bright white wine from the seaside,

0:53:210:53:25

such as this picpoul de pinet from the south of France.

0:53:250:53:28

It's electrifyingly zesty.

0:53:280:53:30

However, the fruity salad is making me think pink,

0:53:300:53:34

so I'm selecting a wine that's a little off the beaten track.

0:53:340:53:37

Meet Sevilen R rose. Turkish delight.

0:53:370:53:42

This wine comes from Turkey, a country whose history with

0:53:420:53:45

winemaking stretches back thousands of years.

0:53:450:53:48

There's intriguing potential, both with local grape varieties,

0:53:480:53:52

and international ones, and this one has both.

0:53:520:53:54

You've got local fruity kalecik karasi, and also a bit of

0:53:540:53:57

spicy Shiraz, and what that gives you is a wine that really resonates.

0:53:570:54:02

It feels like a rock star riffing on a stick of rhubarb.

0:54:020:54:05

Oh, that's just a summary of summertime.

0:54:070:54:10

The oily fish itself needs a bit of zest and zing to cut through,

0:54:100:54:14

and this wine's got the perfect bright edge for the job.

0:54:140:54:17

You've also got the pomegranate molasses in the recipe,

0:54:170:54:20

and that gives depth, it boosts things.

0:54:200:54:22

It's the fruity character of this prime pink

0:54:220:54:25

that's spot on to resonate.

0:54:250:54:27

And finally, the salad with the tomato and pepper.

0:54:270:54:31

You really need a wine that's all about freshness,

0:54:310:54:33

and this one - it just couldn't be more suitably summery.

0:54:330:54:37

Selin, here's to your magnificent mackerel sandwich. Cheers!

0:54:370:54:41

-That's lovely. Very strawberry again.

-It's nice.

0:54:430:54:46

-Lovely.

-It's got a real kick to it.

0:54:460:54:48

But the mackerel, the salad, the bread - yeah, it just works.

0:54:490:54:53

-The rose goes absolutely perfect.

-Do you think it'll go with your dish?

0:54:530:54:56

-Yeah, this works really well, actually. Perfect.

-Rose goes well.

0:54:560:54:59

It's like a taste of summer, or being by the sea, isn't it?

0:54:590:55:02

You'd think it'd be struggling against all the spiciness and

0:55:020:55:05

the oily fish, but it's perfect. It just works really well.

0:55:050:55:08

It's almost got, like, a higher alcohol content to deal with that

0:55:080:55:11

-as well, I think.

-Mm.

-What do you think of the bottle, Chef?

0:55:110:55:14

It's very trendy, it's different.

0:55:140:55:15

-You wouldn't think it's a wine bottle.

-It's like a syrup bottle.

0:55:150:55:18

Looks like a vodka bottle.

0:55:180:55:19

Right, let's get a taste of Britain from Brian Turner

0:55:190:55:22

and Janet Sreet-Porter.

0:55:220:55:23

They're in Suffolk, and they've got a tasty summertime dessert

0:55:230:55:26

for you, but this one's all about gooseberries.

0:55:260:55:28

Well, Brian, here we are, on a quayside just outside Orford,

0:55:370:55:41

on the beautiful Suffolk coastline.

0:55:410:55:44

And over there is Orfordness,

0:55:440:55:47

and the sea used to flood right up to the castle over there,

0:55:470:55:50

so all this marshland's been drained and used for farming.

0:55:500:55:54

And there's acres of arable land round here, great meat,

0:55:550:55:59

Sutton, who has very famous poultry, and, of course,

0:55:590:56:01

look at the coastline - bags of fresh fish.

0:56:010:56:04

But there's a young lady chef who has a fantastic restaurant

0:56:040:56:07

that does really local produce,

0:56:070:56:09

and makes a fantastic success of it.

0:56:090:56:11

'Before we set off on a hike up the coast, I think we should

0:56:110:56:13

'check out a farm where they only sell their produce locally.

0:56:130:56:17

'It would be good to get our hands on some.'

0:56:170:56:19

Well, I've brought you here to High House Farm.

0:56:190:56:21

It's a fruit farm, fantastic soft fruit at this time of year,

0:56:210:56:25

so I'm sure we're going to find just the fruit we need.

0:56:250:56:28

Piers and Suvi Pool took over the farm from his father,

0:56:280:56:31

who'd been a Japanese prisoner of war.

0:56:310:56:34

A friend in the prison camp

0:56:340:56:35

told him stories of working in the Kent orchards.

0:56:350:56:39

Inspired by these stories, he started High House Farm,

0:56:390:56:42

which was eventually handed over to Piers and Suvi in the year 2000.

0:56:420:56:47

-Hi there.

-Hello, Janet. Hello, Brian.

-Hi, Piers. You all right?

0:56:470:56:49

-Yes, thanks, and you?

-Good man, yep.

0:56:490:56:51

So here we are at the gooseberries, and here's my wife, Suvi,

0:56:510:56:55

who is expertly picking some.

0:56:550:56:58

-Hi, Suvi.

-Hi, Janet.

-No, don't take your glove off. Hiya.

0:56:580:57:03

It's a gooseberry picker's best armour, this.

0:57:030:57:05

So, how do you judge when gooseberries are ripe?

0:57:050:57:09

Well, really, these are green gooseberries,

0:57:090:57:11

so you can't tell, really, by colour, so we basically go on size,

0:57:110:57:16

and as you can see, these have sized up quite nicely.

0:57:160:57:19

Right, yeah. I'm going to actually cook some of these and make

0:57:190:57:22

-a nice dessert.

-Lovely.

-Come on. Are you staying there, or come in?

0:57:220:57:25

I'm staying, I'm talking to Suvi.

0:57:250:57:26

Yeah, let's have a little chat, you know? Something...

0:57:260:57:29

Oh, there's some good ones, Janet. You've missed a few there.

0:57:290:57:31

They're beauties.

0:57:310:57:32

I do think these goosegogs are absolutely at their best,

0:57:330:57:36

so I'm going to make a really simple summer dish -

0:57:360:57:40

gooseberry fool with ginger biscuits.

0:57:400:57:43

Do you like a fool, Janet?

0:57:430:57:44

Luckily I do, Brian, and I love a ginger biscuit.

0:57:440:57:48

-These are made in Suffolk, so they're local stuff.

-Right.

0:57:500:57:53

So you're cutting your gooseberries in half before you cook them?

0:57:530:57:56

I'll cut them in half, yes. I just think they cook nicer.

0:57:560:57:58

We want them to hold a bit of shape,

0:57:580:58:00

but we don't want them too big lumps.

0:58:000:58:02

-You don't want them to explode.

-No, exactly right.

0:58:020:58:05

OK dokie, right, let's get this pan on here.

0:58:050:58:07

-Going to put those in.

-Yeah.

0:58:080:58:10

With about four tablespoons of sugar.

0:58:120:58:14

OK? And you do need a good bit of sugar in this.

0:58:160:58:19

However, don't put too much in there.

0:58:190:58:22

You can correct it later, can't you?

0:58:220:58:23

You can, but look what we found - elderflower cordial.

0:58:230:58:27

Local stuff.

0:58:270:58:28

It's really good, so it's got that lovely little citric flavour

0:58:280:58:31

at the back there, so I'm going to put that in there.

0:58:310:58:34

Once again, you can always add a little bit more,

0:58:340:58:37

and just let it cook nicely away, till it starts to fall.

0:58:370:58:40

I've got some here, look, the colour's changed

0:58:400:58:43

but when I say fall, they started to lose their shape,

0:58:430:58:46

but they've still kept some of the shape,

0:58:460:58:48

and actually if you taste these, these taste lovely.

0:58:480:58:50

The sugar and the elderflower is fantastic.

0:58:500:58:54

Half of them, I've put through a blitzing machine,

0:58:540:58:56

so we take these over here.

0:58:560:58:58

I'm going to take about three of these biscuits,

0:58:580:59:00

and I'm just going to break them up into chunks.

0:59:000:59:04

Not too big, but likewise not too small.

0:59:040:59:06

They're going to soak up some of the juice,

0:59:060:59:08

but they're also going to give out a bit of that ginger flavour.

0:59:080:59:12

We'll take these, and we're just going to...

0:59:120:59:14

Don't put too much in here.

0:59:140:59:15

I just want flavour, and I also want a bit of texture,

0:59:150:59:18

so it's got that little bit of bite to it.

0:59:180:59:21

That's probably about right.

0:59:220:59:25

Going to make a couple of portions up here. We take this,

0:59:250:59:29

put the mixture in the bottom. Let's just put a little bit more in there.

0:59:290:59:33

Lovely. Now, you want to whip the cream.

0:59:350:59:38

Just a little bit of sugar helps it whip up.

0:59:390:59:44

Once again, you can add a bit more if you like,

0:59:440:59:46

but it does take a little while,

0:59:460:59:47

so what you need to do now is put some of the elderflower cordial

0:59:470:59:51

in there, and hopefully, because of its acidity,

0:59:510:59:54

it'll actually start to help us set up our cream.

0:59:540:59:57

-See, look, it's starting to thicken now.

-Yeah.

0:59:581:00:01

That's what we want. Just a wee bit more.

1:00:011:00:03

-Grand.

-Oh, I didn't know that.

1:00:041:00:06

-Was that double or single cream you started off with?

-Double cream.

1:00:081:00:11

I always use double cream,

1:00:111:00:13

it's got twice the amount of fat in it, which is perfect.

1:00:131:00:16

-'Course you do, Brian.

-Well, I'm amazed you asked the question.

1:00:161:00:19

OK, now, this is half of the mixture we had here,

1:00:191:00:22

put through the blitz machine, and I think once again the trick here...

1:00:221:00:26

Treat it like an old-fashioned raspberry ripple

1:00:261:00:29

- don't have it completely a puree of gooseberries and cream, so now...

1:00:291:00:35

-HE WHISTLES

-Careful, Chef.

1:00:401:00:43

Don't put too much in.

1:00:431:00:44

I've got ginger biscuits here, and they've been in the machine, OK?

1:00:481:00:53

Just quickly... Love this, they get really nice and fine.

1:00:531:00:57

All I want to do now...

1:00:571:00:58

..is just pour them over the top,

1:00:591:01:01

and now comes the really dangerous part.

1:01:011:01:04

These are elderflowers. Take a nice bit there.

1:01:051:01:08

I say it's dangerous, because I'm going to pour this

1:01:081:01:10

icing sugar over it, and it's going to land most of it on your sweater.

1:01:101:01:14

-Yeah.

-And that's dangerous for me, so I'm just going to go...

1:01:141:01:17

Oh, wind's blowing the other way now!

1:01:171:01:19

Just that little bit over there, lovely.

1:01:201:01:23

And sit that on top.

1:01:231:01:26

And there you have it. A gooseberry fool, with a hint of ginger.

1:01:261:01:30

Brilliant.

1:01:321:01:33

-Can I ask Piers and Suvi to taste some?

-Please, yeah.

-Come on in!

1:01:351:01:39

-You grew them.

-You have that. Looks delicious.

1:01:391:01:42

Thank you, that looks fantastic. There's a spoon there.

1:01:421:01:45

Right down to that lovely fruit, there. Right.

1:01:451:01:49

-Oh, that's delicious.

-I'm going to go for it now.

-That's a good man.

1:01:521:01:56

-That's really good.

-I don't like it to set too much.

1:01:561:01:58

Sometimes, people over-whip the cream, and then the fruit gets...

1:01:581:02:01

Fantastic, isn't it?

1:02:011:02:02

-Mm. He's done a lovely job.

-Really good.

1:02:021:02:04

Well, it pains me to say it, Brian, but you've done it again.

1:02:041:02:07

It's delicious.

1:02:071:02:08

Thank you, Brian. Right, it's time for our chefs to face

1:02:131:02:16

a new challenge that we are calling Spin The Bottle.

1:02:161:02:19

When I heard that, Chef, I brushed my teeth!

1:02:191:02:22

Each chef has been given the same main ingredient,

1:02:221:02:25

which today is a lovely piece of tuna.

1:02:251:02:28

And on the table, there's four trays containing

1:02:281:02:31

a selection of other ingredients that naturally go well together.

1:02:311:02:34

So, you have yellow.

1:02:341:02:36

We've got some pasta, we've got lime, we've got quails' eggs,

1:02:361:02:40

we've got some clams. And we have green.

1:02:401:02:42

Green has got a papaya and a mango,

1:02:421:02:44

a little bit of an Oriental feel, and some glass noodles there.

1:02:441:02:48

And then we have the red.

1:02:481:02:50

In the red, we've got some edamame beans, we've got some wasabi peas.

1:02:501:02:55

Some rice. So you know where that comes from then.

1:02:551:02:59

And then we have blue. Lots of vegetables. Very British.

1:02:591:03:03

So you've got new potatoes, we've got some corn,

1:03:031:03:06

we've got shallots, carrot, cabbage, radish. You name it, we've got it.

1:03:061:03:10

And some lovely pea shoots too.

1:03:101:03:12

The chefs will spin a wine bottle to decide which tray they end up with.

1:03:121:03:16

And they then will both have to construct a delicious,

1:03:161:03:18

tasty plate of food for Hattie to try.

1:03:181:03:21

As if she hasn't had enough food today!

1:03:211:03:24

There's a special golden bottle for a prize dish that she thinks

1:03:241:03:27

is best. You'll not get another one of them.

1:03:271:03:30

-Selin, would you like to go first and spin the bottle, please?

-Yes.

1:03:301:03:35

No pressure.

1:03:361:03:38

-Aha!

-Ooh!

1:03:391:03:42

Dan. It's your turn.

1:03:421:03:44

Oh, clever man, that. Ah-ha-ha.

1:03:471:03:50

All right. OK. So, Selin's got green, Dan's got blue. OK, chefs.

1:03:511:03:56

Let's go.

1:03:561:03:58

That's the two bits of tuna.

1:03:581:04:00

Right, I'm going to do something along the lines of glass

1:04:001:04:04

noodles with a peanut and palm sugar dressing.

1:04:041:04:06

And we'll do a mango and papaya salsa.

1:04:061:04:09

And a bit of bok choy and some of these green beans just

1:04:091:04:12

-blanched into the salad. A bit of chilli.

-A nice salad once again.

1:04:121:04:16

I'm pretty much going to use everything. Get rid of that.

1:04:161:04:18

So, Dan, what are you up to? What are you making?

1:04:181:04:21

I'm just figuring it out. I'm just going to cut the tuna

1:04:211:04:24

so I can sear it all the way round, get some nice colour on it.

1:04:241:04:27

The great thing about all of this is you don't need to do much to it.

1:04:271:04:30

-Blend some of these peanuts.

-Shall I get rid of the palm sugar?

1:04:301:04:33

-Yes, please.

-I'll take three of these.

-And some of these lovely...

1:04:331:04:37

OK, I'll get rid of that.

1:04:371:04:39

-Madam, would you like a cup of tea?

-Oh, thank you so much.

1:04:391:04:42

While you're relaxing and enjoying all the fun.

1:04:421:04:44

Is this the kind of ingredient you use in the restaurant at all?

1:04:441:04:47

-Or do you just try to keep it Mediterranean?

-I tend to keep

1:04:471:04:49

it quite sort of Middle Eastern, Mediterranean.

1:04:491:04:52

But I'm used to kind of using this sort of stuff from working

1:04:521:04:55

-with Peter Gordon.

-So, what are you planning so far now?

1:04:551:04:58

-Well, I'm going to pepper the tuna.

-Yeah.

1:04:581:05:01

-Just get a nice bit of flavour in there.

-OK.

1:05:011:05:03

I'm just going to seal that on all four sides around.

1:05:031:05:05

And I'm going to make a pickled walnut mayonnaisey dressing

1:05:051:05:09

-type thing, with no eggs.

-You going to use any eggs in that?

1:05:091:05:12

Not allowed to. I don't have any eggs.

1:05:121:05:14

-No, you're not allowed to use them.

-Not allowed to use eggs.

1:05:141:05:17

-It's like a dressing.

-It's almost like they knew.

1:05:171:05:20

Tell me something, if were one of the chefs there,

1:05:201:05:23

what tray would you have picked?

1:05:231:05:25

Well, I love Japanese food,

1:05:251:05:28

but I wouldn't feel very confident about cooking it.

1:05:281:05:32

-I don't know. I suppose...

-Well, they're all very colourful.

1:05:321:05:37

Probably the English or the Spanish, the Mediterranean one.

1:05:371:05:40

And what Dan is doing here, you could easily put together quickly?

1:05:401:05:44

Well, if he showed me what to do first!

1:05:441:05:48

The best thing about all of this sort of spring-summertime

1:05:481:05:51

ingredients is there's not much you can do to it.

1:05:511:05:53

-No, you want to sort of keep it simple.

-Cos they're all so good.

1:05:531:05:56

What are we doing?

1:05:561:05:58

We are doing a glass noodle salad with peanut chilli dressing.

1:05:581:06:02

And some coriander in there and we're doing

1:06:021:06:06

a mango and papaya salsa to go on top of that.

1:06:061:06:09

And a nice bit of seared tuna.

1:06:091:06:11

Do you want all that noodle, or half the noodles?

1:06:111:06:14

Maybe, yeah, just half that noodle is probably fine.

1:06:141:06:17

I have to say that peanut dressing...

1:06:191:06:22

-Have you put salt in this?

-I have already, yeah.

1:06:271:06:29

So with this, it's just, you know, blanched, fresh vegetables.

1:06:291:06:34

Still warm from the pot. You don't want...

1:06:341:06:37

I don't think you should mess around with stuff like this.

1:06:371:06:39

You don't want to be peeling asparagus and all that.

1:06:391:06:42

Unless it gets towards the end of the season,

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-where it gets really tough.

-Right, check the seasoning on that one,

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see if it needs some seasoning in there.

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I will do. That's going to be at the end.

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-Which plate would you like?

-Just a nice white plate. That'd be great.

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So quick for potatoes, isn't it?

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-We have a glass noodle salad, with a peanut dressing.

-Peanut dressing.

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Which has got a little bit of chilli in there as well and some coriander.

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-Mm.

-You want the fire on again?

-No, no. It's just the heat of the pan.

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Mind yourself, chef.

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Could pan it probably.

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The tuna piece is about that thick. What did you do?

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-Half a minute on each side?

-Yeah.

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-Roughly?

-Roughly.

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-Tongs?

-Yeah.

-Some really fresh herbs.

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Ooh.

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Scatter a few of these.

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Yeah, just gives it a nice sort of kick, you know?

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And you've got some red onion in there as well.

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Red onion and papaya and mango there, yeah.

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Nice dressing of that.

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-Some nice...

-Just pop these round the back.

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There we go and then just a bit of this.

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And last but not least...

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There you go. Check it out. How long have you got, Dan?

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I think we're done now.

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-You're done. We're done.

-We're done as well.

-Brilliant.

1:08:091:08:11

-I'll pop that there.

-Look at these!

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How fast was that?

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-Oh, wow!

-Just a moment.

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That was a practice run, right? We get to do that again?

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LAUGHTER Let me get you a fork and knife.

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I do feel like Cleopatra here cos I literally haven't done anything!

1:08:251:08:29

-We've cooked it all the way too for you.

-Thank you very much.

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In spirit... No, no, no.

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-In spirit, I would...

-Let's get it off that.

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-I would love the pink one.

-Let's get rid of your cup, madam.

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-Have you had enough tea?

-Thank you very much.

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I had plenty, thank you very much.

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Honestly, I want to eat... That's so beautiful.

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-A bit of the fruit as well.

-You don't wan to mess it up.

-No, I know.

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-Miss omelettes.

-LAUGHTER

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Mm!

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-Mm!

-Everything good?

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Mm!

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God, that is so surprising!

1:09:021:09:04

-Mm!

-So, that's OK?

-Mm!

1:09:041:09:07

-That's good.

-It's more than OK.

-Phew!

-Gosh!

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I want to come to me with that one now. This is just torture. Wow.

1:09:101:09:13

-Dan, what's in your one?

-It's essentially a British nicoise.

-Aha.

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Make sure you get some of the pickled walnuts because

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that's where the really interesting flavour... So yeah.

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The seasonal vegetables, there's not much you need to do to

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them when they're that fresh. Pickled walnut, kind of a dressing,

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emulsified with some rapeseed oil, so nice and buttery and rich.

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-Lots of fresh herbs. Kind of easy to do.

-What would you name it?

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Seared tuna... Black pepper...

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Seared tuna with garden vegetables and a pickled walnut dressing.

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-Pickled walnut dressing.

-That dressing is beautiful.

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-Please don't make me choose between them!

-You have to choose!

1:09:471:09:50

-There's one young lady waiting there.

-Oh, God!

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It depends on the weather, your mood.

1:09:531:09:56

He's offered to get you into the restaurant at the busiest time.

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1.30!

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-Oh, gosh!

-She's offered to cook you...

1:10:021:10:04

It's all for the golden bottle.

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-Oh, God!

-It's very heavy.

1:10:061:10:08

-They're both really delicious.

-That's yours to give now.

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We won't tell anybody. Whisper to Cyrus.

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Purely because I guess it's something I would never make

1:10:131:10:16

at home and I was so surprised by the flavour, then the noodle,

1:10:161:10:19

but honestly, I could polish them both off.

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THEY APPLAUD

1:10:211:10:23

-Beautiful.

-She gets the bottle.

-Oh, wow!

-For you!

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What I've always wanted!

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So, will Hattie get food heaven - lamb kofta, spice man style?

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Or food hell - sweet and sour chicken with lots of pineapple?

1:10:321:10:36

We'll find out after we drop in on James Martin.

1:10:361:10:39

He's flexing his pastry-making muscles today by preparing

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a classic lemon tart.

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It's that extra effort that makes good food great.

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And there are small home producers all over the country, making produce

1:10:551:10:59

with that same passion for quality, an eye for those little details.

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Like Ollie Hansen, who has recently revived his Norwegian

1:11:081:11:12

family's 100-year-old history of curing salmon in

1:11:121:11:16

a very 21st-century London smokehouse.

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His salmon is an indulgent taste of his homeland,

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which soon won him awards and has had the best restaurants in

1:11:221:11:25

Europe placing orders.

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Famous chefs are eating our salmon and we are getting recognised,

1:11:271:11:31

not only from the best chefs in London, but also now in Paris,

1:11:311:11:35

in Italy, in France, Germany.

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Despite only starting three years ago, Ollie's now

1:11:371:11:40

curing 160 salmon a day in what must be the UK's smallest urban smokery.

1:11:401:11:46

Everything that we make is to order, so we don't keep any stock.

1:11:461:11:49

It's made for you.

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So the fish is from the Faroe Islands,

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so what I'm doing now is I'm making small cuts in the skin.

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Opening it up for salt penetration.

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And now is the moment.

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Ta-da!

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Yes! Look at that! Beautiful!

1:12:081:12:11

I will still remember the first time I did this.

1:12:111:12:13

In the north of Norway, fishing with my father.

1:12:141:12:18

Can't believe we had to do that. Fillet fish. Five years old.

1:12:181:12:22

But it was great.

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This is a man who puts the art in to artisan.

1:12:241:12:28

He even uses an unique blend of two different types of salt to

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cure the fish.

1:12:311:12:32

This salt is a mix of vacuum dried salt and fleur de sel grimaud.

1:12:321:12:38

Now, vacuum dried salt absorbs moist from the salmon.

1:12:381:12:42

It's like small sponges.

1:12:421:12:44

And it also prevents bacterial growth.

1:12:441:12:47

And the fleur de sel is the sweetest.

1:12:471:12:49

It's what gives the salmon the taste.

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After 12 hours, Ollie prepares the salmon for hanging up to smoke

1:12:521:12:56

and of course, even the needle and thread are handmade by craftsmen.

1:12:561:13:00

The salmon will hang and sway in the wind.

1:13:011:13:06

That's perfect. It needs to be treated with respect.

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That's part of the taste and part of the quality,

1:13:121:13:15

that you're handling it really nicely.

1:13:151:13:18

It is about trying to be careful

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to the salmon.

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Ready to go in and join the other ones, huh?

1:13:261:13:29

Despite only starting three years ago, Ollie's now

1:13:291:13:32

curing 160 salmon a day in what must be the UK's smallest urban smokery.

1:13:321:13:38

Everything that we make is to order. So we don't keep any stock.

1:13:381:13:41

It's made for you.

1:13:411:13:43

Ollie's lovingly crafted smoked salmon would be the perfect

1:13:461:13:49

starter to any dinner party.

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But my delicious lemon tart makes the ultimate finale.

1:13:531:13:57

This deliciously light and fruity dessert is pure indulgence.

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It's really the chef's dessert.

1:14:021:14:04

It's a dessert that shows a little bit of skill, in terms of the

1:14:041:14:07

pastry, but above all else, it's a dessert that tastes fantastic.

1:14:071:14:11

I'm going to show you that now.

1:14:111:14:13

First thing we're going to do is do our pastry.

1:14:131:14:15

So I'm going to start off with 250g of flour.

1:14:151:14:19

Then in go two tablespoons of icing sugar.

1:14:221:14:25

100g of butter.

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And a pinch of salt.

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And then just like my granny did,

1:14:321:14:35

you basically get your fingers and rub the butter together.

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Now, what you're doing is creating a nice, short pastry,

1:14:391:14:42

which is perfect for lemon tarts.

1:14:421:14:45

The mixture needs to stay really cold.

1:14:451:14:48

If the fat in the butter gets too warm in my hands,

1:14:481:14:50

it will absorb more flour, leaving me with tough and heavy pastry.

1:14:501:14:54

We've almost done it there.

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You can see you get this lovely and fine texture.

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And then we can just add a medium egg.

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Now, this is going to bring the entire mix together.

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And it will actually, quite quickly, form pastry.

1:15:121:15:14

Let the pastry rest in the fridge for a few minutes.

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It's time to get on with the filling.

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Last thing you want at any dinner party if your centrepiece

1:15:281:15:31

dessert running out, so this is a big one.

1:15:311:15:34

To start the filling, I need 14 medium sized eggs.

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You could of course halve the recipe for a smaller batch.

1:15:411:15:44

But really, for me, the key to a lemon tart is actually the

1:15:441:15:47

depth of the filling.

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Too many lemon tarts when you go and have it in a restaurants and

1:15:491:15:52

also the ones that you buy have got this horrible thin layer of lemon.

1:15:521:15:57

They almost taste like a curd. This is lovely and light.

1:15:571:16:00

Into the eggs go 500g of caster sugar.

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And 700ml of double cream.

1:16:071:16:09

Now we can get our lemon zest and our lemon juice.

1:16:101:16:14

To give this epic dessert its lemony kick,

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I'm going to need quite a few lemons.

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Ten, to be precise. Zest and juiced.

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These are large lemons as well.

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When you're buying them from the supermarket, the smaller ones,

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you may need to add some more.

1:16:261:16:29

With that extra bit of effort, the tart is really going to shine.

1:16:291:16:32

And I'm going to leave the mixture to chill in the fridge for

1:16:361:16:40

about an hour, which gives me time to prepare the pastry.

1:16:401:16:43

So a little bit of flour on the board and then roll it out.

1:16:431:16:48

Roll the pastry as thin as you dare and lay it into the tin.

1:16:481:16:52

Now, here's a chefs' trick - to keep the pastry nice and flat,

1:16:571:17:01

use flour wrapped in ovenproof clingfilm.

1:17:011:17:04

Not only does it have more weight than baking beans,

1:17:041:17:07

it gets right into the corners for a lovely flat and crispy pastry edge.

1:17:071:17:12

I always have a pot of this, just to hand.

1:17:121:17:16

Once you cook it, you can pass this through

1:17:161:17:19

a sieve and use it for this again when you need it.

1:17:191:17:23

So, what you can do now is just pop it straight in the oven,

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bake this at about 380 degrees Fahrenheit.

1:17:261:17:29

That's about sort of 170 degrees centigrade.

1:17:291:17:32

You need to cook that for about 15 minutes.

1:17:321:17:35

You can't rush perfection.

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The look on your guests' faces when you serve this tart makes it

1:17:371:17:40

worth all the effort. Don't worry about these edges.

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We're going to trim that off after it's cooked.

1:17:431:17:46

And you can see what happens with this.

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When you do it, you get this perfect edge to it.

1:17:491:17:52

Now to get a perfect top to your lemon tart,

1:17:521:17:57

you want to remove this foam

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from the top.

1:17:591:18:01

So, just with a ladle, just get rid of this.

1:18:011:18:04

It's the little things that really do make all the difference.

1:18:041:18:08

The pastry will be perfectly sealed with the egg yolk by now,

1:18:081:18:11

so it's time to get the filling in.

1:18:111:18:13

And carefully filling the tart while it's in the oven will save

1:18:131:18:16

you slopping it all over the kitchen floor.

1:18:161:18:18

And then really now, what you want to do is reduce the temperature

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down to 280, 300 degrees Fahrenheit, that's about 140 degrees

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centigrade, and cook this for about an hour, just until it's just set.

1:18:251:18:29

Once it's cooked, trim the edges of the pastry.

1:18:321:18:35

The whole point about this dessert is actually the care and

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attention that you put in.

1:18:381:18:40

You put more effort just making this than you do in most desserts

1:18:401:18:44

that I know. Trust me. I've been a pastry chef for a long time.

1:18:441:18:48

But it is actually worth it in the end.

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Sprinkle a bit of icing sugar on top and caramelise it in style.

1:18:531:18:57

It's probably best to do this before you've had too many glasses of wine.

1:18:591:19:03

A dollop of creme fraiche and my dinner party showstopper is ready.

1:19:081:19:12

A good quality lemon tart is the best dessert you'll ever taste.

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Right.

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It's time to find out whether Hattie is facing food heaven or food hell.

1:19:311:19:35

Hattie, your food heaven's going to be lamb koftas.

1:19:351:19:38

Lovely minced lamb, with chillies, red onions, cumin, coriander,

1:19:381:19:44

a nice brown sauce, made with dates, tamarind, onion, apple,

1:19:441:19:48

and a nice cucumber salad.

1:19:481:19:50

Or you're going to have food hell, which I think is absolutely

1:19:501:19:53

brilliant, nice fillet of chicken, shredded or diced,

1:19:531:19:57

made into a spicy batter, deep-fried.

1:19:571:20:00

And then we make a sweet and sour sauce with pineapple, with

1:20:001:20:03

chicken stock, onions, spring onion, cucumber, carrot, and some ginger.

1:20:031:20:08

-And it's served with egg fried rice.

-OK.

1:20:081:20:11

We're not live, so things are a little different,

1:20:111:20:14

and we're leaving it up to Lady Luck to decide.

1:20:141:20:17

So, here are two wooden spoons. One has heaven, one has hell.

1:20:171:20:22

So, Hattie, I'm going to juggle them a bit.

1:20:221:20:25

-I'm ready.

-He gets one, sorry, like that.

-Yes.

1:20:251:20:29

-I get one in my hand.

-OK.

-Like that.

1:20:291:20:32

And I pick?

1:20:321:20:34

This one.

1:20:341:20:36

-What is it?

-Heaven!

1:20:361:20:38

THEY CHEER

1:20:381:20:39

That had better get whisked off then.

1:20:391:20:42

-OK, very kind of you.

-Get rid of that, get rid of this.

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Get rid of that too.

1:20:461:20:49

-The chicken.

-Hattie, can we get you to help?

-Yeah.

1:20:491:20:52

-We can get a bit of help from you?

-Give me a job.

1:20:521:20:54

If you stand right here, madam, and if you can toast those spices.

1:20:541:20:57

-All four?

-All four, sir, if you don't mind.

1:20:571:20:59

-Oui, chef.

-Just leaves?

-Yeah, just pick the leaves.

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Start with that. Onion and apple chopped.

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You need the onion for the sauce?

1:21:101:21:12

Onion for the sauce, garlic for the sauce.

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What spices have you put in?

1:21:141:21:16

-Well, we've got coriander seeds, cumin, peppercorns.

-Mm!

1:21:161:21:20

There we go. Mince goes in there.

1:21:241:21:27

-Smells...

-Smells great, doesn't it?

-How much mint do you need?

1:21:311:21:34

Shall I just keep going until someone tells me to stop?

1:21:341:21:37

-That's enough.

-That's enough, OK.

1:21:371:21:40

-Right.

-And if you grate some of that rind in there.

-OK.

1:21:401:21:45

Just a little bit.

1:21:451:21:46

And then we've got to juice the...

1:21:461:21:48

Juice the lemon inside.

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-Half a lemon.

-A bit more?

-Just a bit more. Just a bit more for flavour.

1:21:521:21:55

Our region, the region of Turkey and Iran,

1:21:551:21:58

they were beds of sheep farming.

1:21:581:22:00

It's the oldest form of animal farming is sheep farming.

1:22:001:22:04

-And almost 10,000 years ago, they started farming sheep.

-Yeah.

1:22:041:22:07

-And it's a Middle Eastern animal, sheep, basically.

-Yeah.

1:22:071:22:11

-There we go.

-Smells amazing.

-Bit of mint in there.

1:22:131:22:17

-Was it just the juice of half a lemon?

-Yes, ma'am.

-OK.

1:22:171:22:20

Then once we beat it up, we'll taste it and see what happens.

1:22:201:22:23

We've got some lovely dates in that brown sauce as well, eh.

1:22:261:22:29

-Yeah.

-I only found out recently that tamarind is from the Persian

1:22:311:22:35

word of date and India.

1:22:351:22:37

-Indian date.

-Yeah.

1:22:371:22:39

-Indian date, "ind" for India.

-That's right.

-Tamar for date.

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So the Persians called it Indian dates.

1:22:441:22:48

It's an Arabic Persian word.

1:22:501:22:52

Smells insane.

1:22:521:22:53

-More water in there, or is that...?

-Yeah, that'll be fine.

1:22:531:22:57

Put some apple in as well.

1:22:571:22:59

So, basically, once we've done that,

1:22:591:23:02

we'll cook that down in a simmer for about an hour.

1:23:021:23:05

We've got a garlic clove here.

1:23:051:23:07

-That's what we've got here.

-Right.

-Do you want the garlic?

-Yes, please.

1:23:071:23:11

-Yes, please.

-Do you want that grated?

-Yeah.

-Thank you.

1:23:111:23:14

-What's that?

-Worcester sauce.

-Oh, lovely.

1:23:141:23:17

-What's that in there?

-Mint jelly.

-Mint jelly. That goes in there too.

1:23:171:23:20

-The whole thing?

-Yeah.

1:23:201:23:21

-Yeah?

-Yeah.

-OK.

-Nice and tasty.

-Tarragon. Finish with tarragon.

1:23:211:23:24

Lovely.

1:23:241:23:25

-And what's this one here?

-That's a bit of paprika.

1:23:251:23:29

-Just a pinch, or...?

-No, no, no. All of it.

1:23:291:23:31

-All of it?

-Yeah, we don't go halfway here.

1:23:311:23:34

-OK.

-Big flavours.

-Yeah.

1:23:341:23:36

It's all about the spice.

1:23:361:23:39

-Hattie.

-Yes.

1:23:391:23:41

-I heard Laurence Olivier helped with your homework.

-Ah!

1:23:411:23:47

-What was he like?

-This comes up. It was on one occasion.

1:23:471:23:51

-Hero of everybody's times, wasn't he?

-He was brilliant.

1:23:511:23:55

No, my mum and dad knew him very well, and, yes,

1:23:551:23:59

had worked with him from when my mum was quite young, and they used

1:23:591:24:03

to throw these summer parties and we once went at the weekend and...

1:24:031:24:07

And how does Mum get to know him?

1:24:071:24:09

-She's an actress.

-And she does just acting?

1:24:091:24:13

Is she involved in the new play, by any chance?

1:24:131:24:15

She's not at the moment, no.

1:24:151:24:18

But, yeah, so she and Laurence Olivier went way back and I

1:24:181:24:23

was made to go inside to do my homework and he came to join me.

1:24:231:24:26

There is another play mum was involved in with you,

1:24:261:24:29

-I guess, isn't it?

-Mm?

-Or the TV show?

1:24:291:24:32

-Yes, Juliet Bravo, she did, yes. In the 1980s.

-She was born in India.

1:24:321:24:37

-She was born in India.

-Indian.

-Yeah.

1:24:371:24:39

-See? Everything.

-Bangalore.

1:24:391:24:41

-I met Sir Laurence Olivier in Goa.

-Really?

1:24:411:24:44

He was pretty old, he had come for a holiday in our hotel.

1:24:441:24:47

-How extraordinary!

-And I had the privilege of meeting him there.

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-Aw, wow!

-This is going back in the '80s now.

-Yes. Yeah. Yeah.

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-Early

-'80s. OK. That's probably when...

-And I met him there.

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I didn't recognise him the first time.

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-And then you did recognise him.

-Yeah.

-He was such a character.

-Yes.

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Yeah, koftas can be any shape, actually.

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Shall I take that?

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And in the Persian language, a kofta is something that you would

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cook in a sauce and a kebab is something that you would cook dry.

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I hadn't realised.

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In the Turkish culinary term,

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kofta is dry cooked or grilled or griddled, or whatever.

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-And in India...

-Shall I take this away?

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We have hundreds of kinds of koftas and not to forget,

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the famous Scotch egg was born in India.

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Did you know that, chef?

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It came out of Nargisi kofta.

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And Sir Walter Scott went to India, he was given that.

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-Ah, but that's what they said.

-No, sir. No, sir. It's on Wikipedia.

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Yeah, this is becoming a very Indian programme.

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-Your dad directed Jewel in the Crown.

-Yes.

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Or Jewel in India's Passage, somebody might have said. No?

1:25:521:25:56

But Jewel in the Crown. That went on for years.

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It was 14 hours' worth of TV, which is quite rare, I guess, for

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the time, but, yeah, he was out in India a lot when I was growing up.

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Did you get a chance to go across with him or anything?

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Not then, but then I did a job with him actually when I was just still

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at school and we filmed in India, so that was a remarkable opportunity.

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There we go.

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Those are just toasted lightly.

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Cos I think of koftas as being on skewers over charcoals,

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but I guess you could cook them any way. Oh, yes. On a barbecue.

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If you don't have skewers, don't have charcoal, what do you do?

1:26:341:26:38

-You can fry them actually.

-Yeah.

-Let's go.

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With grated potato in there. Really nice.

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Ooh, inside or on top then?

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Inside, so you get a really nice

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soft centre and crispy on the outside.

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Really good.

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-It's when all the juice seep into the bread.

-Yeah, mop it all up.

1:26:521:26:56

Oh! I always think of them as being lamb,

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but I guess you could do them with different types of mince, could you?

1:26:591:27:03

-Or any meat.

-Beef.

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-So long as the meat can form, you can do anything you like.

-Yeah.

1:27:051:27:09

-Wow!

-So this is the sauce with the dates.

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-Mm! Tamarind.

-Tamarind, yes, of course.

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Tamarind, dates. Brown sauce, typical HP.

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-Goes inside.

-OK.

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Classic.

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I'll put two in one. One here. We can only make two, sir.

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Sadly.

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And they should have had some nice red onions in there.

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That's looking lovely.

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Thank you.

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Hattie, would you come here please, so I can serve you better?

1:27:421:27:46

Thank you.

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-That here.

-I've never been so spoiled in my life.

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To go with it, Olly has chosen a lovely Salvaje del Moncayo Garnacha.

1:27:501:27:54

-Fantastic. What a pronunciation, Chef.

-It's fantastic.

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-Well, hopefully it's right.

-Ha!

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And it's £7, 2014, and it's from Majestic Wines.

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Thank you so much.

1:28:051:28:07

-Mm!

-Go on, chefs. One for you.

1:28:071:28:10

-Thank you.

-One for you.

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-Smells good.

-Try some kofta.

-Spice man-style.

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And let us know what you think about it.

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Wow. OK.

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Mm!

1:28:241:28:26

-Good enough?

-Mm!

1:28:261:28:28

-That's beautiful!

-What do you think? Spice man kofta.

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Mm! It's lovely! The sweetness of the sauce. Completely delicious.

1:28:311:28:35

-Now, this wine goes with it, but you don't have to drink it.

-Thank you.

1:28:351:28:38

-But you can have a little sniff.

-I'll smell it.

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-And feel happy about it.

-Maybe just taste it. Thank you.

1:28:411:28:44

Well, that's all from us today on Saturday Kitchen.

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Thanks to Selin, Dan and Hattie.

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And the wonderful Olly Smith for his wine choices.

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All the recipes from the show are on the website -

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bbc.co.uk/saturdaykitchen

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Next week, we have Jason Atherton taking over the hobs.

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We've had a great time today and we hope you've enjoyed the show.

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-Bye for now.

-Bye.

-Bye, everybody. Have fun.

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